| Tuesday, May 10th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | TV time |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | Oh look |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | Water Rats on the PVR |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | I thought I had recorded all the episodes that they had so far. Guess I missed a cople |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | couple rather |
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| [00:26:00] | ** xris wishes he had TIME for tv. ** | |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | right now, I just want a working nuvexport. |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | and a now, a good mpeg2 commercial cutter. |
| [00:28:00] | kslater: | how active are the voip conference calls? |
| [00:31:00] | visit0r: | xris: tried gopchop? |
| [00:31:00] | visit0r: | works for me |
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| [00:40:00] | xris: | visit0r: except that it only cuts on GOP's, which doesn't work. |
| [00:40:00] | xris: | that's why nuvexport has the horrible mess of using avidemux. |
| [00:41:00] | xris: | it's been suggested that I try gopdit to add to nuvexport, but I think it has the same problem as gopchop |
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| [00:58:00] | sunilonln: | can someone help me compile the new drivers for ivtv? |
| [01:02:00] | j-rod: | cd ivtv-0.3.4?/driver/; make; make install? |
| [01:03:00] | sunilonln: | i'm looking at this: http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/new_tuners/ |
| [01:03:00] | sunilonln: | should i download the ivtv package instead? |
| [01:04:00] | j-rod: | yes |
| [01:04:00] | j-rod: | none of that crap is needed anymore if you have a relatively new kernel |
| [01:04:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [01:04:00] | sunilonln: | i'm running 2.6.11 |
| [01:04:00] | j-rod: | and/or the 0.3.x tarballs include the necessary bits themselves |
| [01:04:00] | sunilonln: | i take it that's new enough |
| [01:04:00] | j-rod: | maybe |
| [01:04:00] | j-rod: | what card? |
| [01:05:00] | sunilonln: | pvr-150 |
| [01:05:00] | sunilonln: | i can get a picture on composite, but not tuner |
| [01:05:00] | j-rod: | throw some log output on pastebin.ca and I can tell you what you need |
| [01:05:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
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| [01:07:00] | sunilonln: | pastebin.ca/11373 |
| [01:08:00] | j-rod: | are you aware there are kernel module rpms available so you don't need to compile anything? |
| [01:09:00] | sunilonln: | yes, but i think i have gone through it already |
| [01:09:00] | sunilonln: | if you want to walk me through it |
| [01:09:00] | sunilonln: | i'd be happy to try again |
| [01:09:00] | j-rod: | either or |
| [01:09:00] | sunilonln: | i'm relatively new to linux and probably screwed it up myself |
| [01:09:00] | sunilonln: | so we can try the rpm |
| [01:10:00] | j-rod: | not sure you screwed up |
| [01:10:00] | sunilonln: | basically i have gone through jarod wilson's set up guide and everything works |
| [01:10:00] | sunilonln: | except the video capture |
| [01:10:00] | j-rod: | if that's the source version installed, its just the in-kernel versions are overriding |
| [01:10:00] | j-rod: | heh, btw, I *am* Jarod. :) |
| [01:10:00] | sunilonln: | oh |
| [01:10:00] | sunilonln: | hi |
| [01:10:00] | j-rod: | howdy |
| [01:10:00] | sunilonln: | :) |
| [01:11:00] | sunilonln: | so what do you want me to try? |
| [01:11:00] | j-rod: | first problem is the tveeprom version loading isn't new enough |
| [01:11:00] | j-rod: | first, rpm -qa | grep ivtv |
| [01:11:00] | j-rod: | make sure we don't have overlapping source and rpm installed ivtv bits |
| [01:12:00] | sunilonln: | i'll comment the output to the pastebin.ca entry |
| [01:12:00] | j-rod: | k |
| [01:12:00] | sunilonln: | ok it's commented |
| [01:13:00] | j-rod: | and modprobe.conf contents? |
| [01:13:00] | j-rod: | I'm guessing the rpm-installed version is what's actually getting loaded |
| [01:14:00] | sunilonln: | also commented |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | since its module path superceded /lib/modules/<kernel>/ivtv/ |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | ah, okay |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | for the rpm install, you also need some alias commands to use the ivtv-provided tveeprom and tuner |
| [01:15:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | which I've stupidly left out of the 150/500 section |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | alias tuner tuner-ivtv |
| [01:15:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | add those and bounce the box |
| [01:16:00] | sunilonln: | should i add those at the bottom? |
| [01:16:00] | j-rod: | sure |
| [01:16:00] | sunilonln: | k |
| [01:18:00] | sunilonln: | hopefully this works |
| [01:19:00] | sunilonln: | then next weekend i'll swap out my scan converter with a tv-out card |
| [01:20:00] | xris: | j-rod: do you have any idea why I needed to add manual modprobes to rc.local for the ivtv stuff? |
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| [01:20:00] | j-rod: | is that even with the patched rc.sysinit? |
| [01:21:00] | jemarcks: | xris, u have the same problem. ivtv wasnt geting loaded at boot |
| [01:21:00] | jemarcks: | xris,l mean i have the same problem you do. |
| [01:21:00] | j-rod: | hm, nothing in rc.local for me after patching rc.sysinit... |
| [01:22:00] | sunilonln: | pastebin.ca/11374 has new output |
| [01:22:00] | sunilonln: | still not getting pictuer |
| [01:22:00] | sunilonln: | but it's setting a tuner type |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | its on my laundry list to figure out how to get ivtv to report the same thing back bttv does when kmodule is called by rc.sysinit so the patch isn't needed... |
| [01:23:00] | jemarcks: | i havent patched rc.sysinit yet.... hmmmm |
| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | sunilonln, the log output looks good... |
| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | ivtv won't auto-load on a udev system |
| [01:24:00] | j-rod: | sunilonln, what input is active if you look at the ivtvctl -a output? |
| [01:24:00] | sunilonln: | 1 sec |
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| [01:25:00] | jemarcks: | I use tuner0.... for now. I have a pvr150 |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | FC3 does some magic w/kmodule to get a listing of what modules should be loaded |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | if you look at the kmodule output for bttv, you can see that it reports CAPTURE back |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | ivtv reports nothing |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | so FC3's rc.sysinit doesn't know what to do with it |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | the module got force-loaded on pre-udev systems when /dev/video0 was accessed |
| [01:26:00] | j-rod: | but with no /dev/video0 already there, that doesn't work |
| [01:26:00] | sunilonln: | i commented the output |
| [01:27:00] | jemarcks: | Anybody have a good procedure to burn a dvd with .nuv files? |
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| [01:28:00] | j-rod: | sunilonln, try this |
| [01:28:00] | j-rod: | ivtvctl -p 6 |
| [01:28:00] | j-rod: | then try a capture |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks: | thats tuner0 |
| [01:28:00] | j-rod: | yes |
| [01:29:00] | j-rod: | oh, shit |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks: | ? |
| [01:29:00] | j-rod: | nm, its already set to that |
| [01:29:00] | sunilonln: | k |
| [01:29:00] | j-rod: | was looking in the wrong place in the output |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | what is the audio input set to? ivtvctl -A |
| [01:31:00] | sunilonln: | pasted output |
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| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | odd, everything looks correct... |
| [01:36:00] | sunilonln: | hmm |
| [01:37:00] | j-rod: | are you tuned to a known-working channel? |
| [01:37:00] | sunilonln: | yes |
| [01:38:00] | sunilonln: | i'm going to go check connections |
| [01:38:00] | sunilonln: | brb |
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| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | ok |
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| [01:40:00] | sunilonln: | ok i got it working |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | yay :) |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | what was it? |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | hasta la vista, kormoc |
| [01:40:00] | sunilonln: | connection i think |
| [01:40:00] | xris: | ok, headed home, too |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | (assuming you're waving goodbye) |
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| [01:41:00] | sunilonln: | audio isn't proccessing well |
| [01:41:00] | sunilonln: | and it freezes when i try to change the channel |
| [01:41:00] | sunilonln: | but, hey, i had video for a bit |
| [01:41:00] | j-rod: | progress, I guess... ;-) |
| [01:41:00] | sunilonln: | mythfrontend output is saying "waited too long for decoder to pause" |
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| [01:42:00] | Grooby: | can someone help me out w/ my mythmusic and spdif output? |
| [01:44:00] | sunilonln: | how do i check cpu usage? |
| [01:44:00] | Grooby: | top |
| [01:45:00] | sunilonln: | hmm, i'm getting 40% usage just to play live tv |
| [01:45:00] | sunilonln: | is that normal? |
| [01:45:00] | iggy: | do you deinterlacing enabled? |
| [01:45:00] | sunilonln: | cpu is p3 1ghz, with 512 ram |
| [01:45:00] | j-rod: | depends on what you have for a cpu, what you have for a video out device, etc |
| [01:45:00] | sunilonln: | i'm just playing the output in mplayer |
| [01:46:00] | sunilonln: | mythfrontend |
| [01:46:00] | sunilonln: | oops |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | what's your video card? |
| [01:46:00] | iggy: | that actually sounds about right for a p3 1G playing an mpeg stream |
| [01:46:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | yeah, what iggy said |
| [01:47:00] | sunilonln: | 52% used when playing back in myth |
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| [01:49:00] | sunilonln: | anyone know what could be causing the problem when trying to change channels? |
| [01:50:00] | j-rod: | not a clue, I only fired up live TV in myth for like the first time in a month yesterday. :) |
| [01:50:00] | sunilonln: | haha |
| [01:50:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [01:50:00] | j-rod: | look in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [01:50:00] | j-rod: | could be something telling in there |
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| [01:52:00] | sunilonln: | don't see anything interesting |
| [01:53:00] | iggy: | you can try to turn up the debugging |
| [01:53:00] | sunilonln: | how would i do that? |
| [01:55:00] | iggy: | restart mythbackend with a special parameter |
| [01:56:00] | sunilonln: | ok, i'm going to troubleshoot audio first, that might be causing it according to the docs |
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| [01:57:00] | sunilonln: | yeah, it's changing channels with the sound disabled |
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| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | iggy, do any pvr-150 or 500 cards actually use an msp34xx? |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | I can't for the life of me remember |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | I know I get tveeprom output on my 500 that says one is found |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | just wondering if his audio issue is due to needing the ivtv-provided msp3400 instead |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | sunilonln, it shouldn't hurt to try adding 'alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv' to modprobe.conf and reload everything |
| [02:01:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | (though your card shows something about a TDA9850 on the line where my 500 shows msp3400) |
| [02:03:00] | sunilonln: | rebooting.. |
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| [02:03:00] | LedHed: | Hello |
| [02:04:00] | opello: | j-rod: i have "tveeprom: audio_processor = MSP3410D (type = 5)" for my pvr-500 |
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| [02:05:00] | sunilonln: | would you like me to paste the ivtv output again? |
| [02:06:00] | LedHed: | When I try to RIP a DVD I only have the option of Perfect. How can I change this? |
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| [02:08:00] | sunilonln: | same problem is still occurring |
| [02:11:00] | ** xris just figured out why nuvexport's mencoder doesn't work... mencoder likes to be able to seek, which you can't do on a fifo ** | |
| [02:13:00] | ** xris kicks ffmpeg for being crappy ** | |
| [02:13:00] | ** j-rod kicks crap for being ffmpeggy ** | |
| [02:13:00] | xris: | lol |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | the xvid exporter is half the speed of transcode (with noise reduction enabled), and the quality sucks. |
| [02:15:00] | LedHed: | xris, when I go to rip a DVD I can only rip Perfect any ideas? |
| [02:15:00] | j-rod: | start mtd? |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | but transcode has issues with (I think) its deinterlacer so that if you crop the beginning of a show it gets all skippy for about 5 seconds (regardless of if you use mythtranscode to do the cutting, or transcode's internal stuff directly working on an mpeg2 recording) |
| [02:16:00] | LedHed: | it is. has to be to get to that point |
| [02:16:00] | j-rod: | ah |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | LedHed: not a clue — I don't use myth for that. |
| [02:16:00] | j-rod: | (me neither) |
| [02:16:00] | LedHed: | thank |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | my dvd player has component out, which is better than my mythbox,so I'd rather just use my dvd player. |
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| [02:21:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone around that can help? |
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| [02:22:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone around? |
| [02:22:00] | j-rod: | can help ... deliver a baby? |
| [02:22:00] | j-rod: | can help ... you do your taxes? |
| [02:22:00] | ** xris throws a life preserver at Esotericisms, in case he's drowning. ** | |
| [02:23:00] | Esotericisms: | having an issue getting xmltv installed |
| [02:23:00] | Esotericisms: | sorry |
| [02:23:00] | Esotericisms: | getting compilation errors |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: you're in the US? |
| [02:23:00] | Esotericisms: | xris, yes |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | then you don't use xmltv |
| [02:23:00] | Esotericisms: | I am running debian |
| [02:23:00] | Esotericisms: | alright ... what do I use? |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | datadirect. it's build into mythtv. read the instructions. |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | search the documentation for zap2it |
| [02:24:00] | Esotericisms: | gotcha ... wasn't that clear in the documentation |
| [02:24:00] | Esotericisms: | thanks ... I see the info regarding zap2it |
| [02:24:00] | rtsai1111: | anyone know how to tell if a card is curently in use for recording? |
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| [02:25:00] | dhofstra: | I think system status as well as mythweb can tell you which cards are currently recording |
| [02:25:00] | j-rod: | information center -> system status |
| [02:25:00] | rtsai1111: | i mean on the shell |
| [02:25:00] | rtsai1111: | for a DVB-based system |
| [02:25:00] | j-rod: | ah |
| [02:25:00] | j-rod: | no clue |
| [02:26:00] | rtsai1111: | For V4L I could use "dd if=/dev/video32", and if that failed, I knew myth was busy recording |
| [02:26:00] | ** j-rod pets Syth theme... ** | |
| [02:26:00] | xris: | syth? |
| [02:26:00] | xris: | lxmsuite one? |
| [02:26:00] | j-rod: | yup |
| [02:26:00] | Nod51: | I am getting a Segmentation fault when I try to view the Program Guide, any idea why? |
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| [02:26:00] | xris: | gecko is supposed to get me a login there at some point. I want to play with the movie times stuff to get that put into mythweb. |
| [02:27:00] | j-rod: | and working beautifully with the -fixes branch |
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| [02:27:00] | xris: | cool |
| [02:27:00] | Nod51: | what is the easiest way to tell mythtv to record from say, 5:00pm for 1/2 hour mon-fri? |
| [02:27:00] | Esotericisms: | I don't have qmake ... how can I install? |
| [02:28:00] | j-rod: | get qmake |
| [02:28:00] | Esotericisms: | where? |
| [02:28:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah, likewise |
| [02:28:00] | j-rod: | I just have the theme at the moment |
| [02:28:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: it's part of qt-devel, usually. |
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| [02:30:00] | ** xris gives up on gopdit. only works up GOP's. that sucks. ** | |
| [02:31:00] | xris: | j-rod: gotcha. well, hopefully they'll hook him up with info soon. I'm curious to see where this project is heading. |
| [02:31:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
| [02:31:00] | xris: | hmm, I guess I should scan for air2pc channels now. |
| [02:32:00] | xris: | j-rod: btw, KING has a perfect lock for me. |
| [02:32:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah, me too |
| [02:32:00] | xris: | KCPQ is basically empty. |
| [02:32:00] | j-rod: | I get a halfway decent signal during prime-time (55%-ish) |
| [02:32:00] | j-rod: | but it drops to like 23% any other time |
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| [02:32:00] | xris: | I don't know how to tell that. just what azap tells me. |
| [02:32:00] | j-rod: | KCPQ is around 55–60 |
| [02:32:00] | xris: | status 1f | signal fa10 | snr d85c | ber 00000058 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| [02:33:00] | xris: | stupid airport. |
| [02:33:00] | xris: | stupid hill |
| [02:33:00] | j-rod: | you can (briefly) see the signal strength percentage when doing the channel scan in myth |
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| [02:34:00] | j-rod: | got it from dtvsignal out of pchdtv-utils too, when using the v4l driver w/an hd2k or 3k |
| [02:34:00] | rtsai1111: | does myth do the exact same thing as azap? |
| [02:34:00] | dopester: | yep |
| [02:34:00] | rtsai1111: | azap tells me FE_HAS_LOCK, but in myth I can't watch that channel |
| [02:34:00] | xris: | ok, doing a full channel scan |
| [02:34:00] | j-rod: | xris, for clarification, that "yeah, me too" was about lxm, not KING |
| [02:35:00] | rtsai1111: | works for all channels except for ABC (fortunately, I hardly ever watch it, but annoying anyway) |
| [02:35:00] | xris: | j-rod: rigured |
| [02:35:00] | xris: | figured |
| [02:35:00] | dopester: | the lock might only last for a second, and not be long enough to be usable |
| [02:35:00] | j-rod: | one other thing you might try is setting the card to TS mode, could be KING does something wonky |
| [02:35:00] | rtsai1111: | that channel was fine when i was on v4l (HD-3000) before I switched over to DVB (I am in TS mode now). |
| [02:35:00] | j-rod: | (I've got my card in TS mode atm) |
| [02:35:00] | dopester: | ts mide is what you shoudl be using anyway |
| [02:35:00] | xris: | j-rod: well, my problems are that the backend won't send data to the frontend. |
| [02:35:00] | Esotericisms: | I got the error "no rule to make target '/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by 'Makefile'. Stop. .... it did that on make |
| [02:35:00] | Esotericisms: | after qmake mythtv.pro |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | but will try that |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | dopester: should I set that before or after the scan? (or does it matter?) |
| [02:36:00] | j-rod: | anyone interested in an iPod-like theme for Myth? |
| [02:36:00] | dopester: | xris: doesn't matter when you set it |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | ok |
| [02:36:00] | ** xris tries to remember where that setting is. ** | |
| [02:36:00] | LedHed: | j-rod, sure just leave out the apple |
| [02:36:00] | dopester: | its only how it stores the data when recording |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | recording profiles? |
| [02:36:00] | Esotericisms: | I got the error "no rule to make target '/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by 'Makefile'. Stop. .... it did that on make |
| [02:37:00] | j-rod: | or get sued... ;) |
| [02:37:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: ./configure |
| [02:37:00] | xris: | qmake mythtv.pro |
| [02:37:00] | j-rod: | my little brother mocked up the iPod-like media center interface... |
| [02:37:00] | Esotericisms: | I did that already |
| [02:37:00] | xris: | I think that's it. |
| [02:37:00] | Esotericisms: | just did it again ... got the same error |
| [02:37:00] | xris: | I haven't compiled by hand in so long, I forget,though |
| [02:37:00] | Esotericisms: | did configure |
| [02:38:00] | Esotericisms: | did qmake mythtv.pro |
| [02:38:00] | Esotericisms: | when I do make i get that error |
| [02:38:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms: do you have the environmental variables setup ok as per the error? |
| [02:38:00] | rtsai1111: | eso: you need to set QTDIR (or something like that) to /usr/share/qt3 or wherever your qmake.conf lives (do a "locate qmake.conf") |
| [02:38:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: my bad. I do call make after qmake |
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| [02:38:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.2 |
| [02:39:00] | Esotericisms: | dhofstra is that for me to look at? |
| [02:40:00] | dhofstra: | just a link on how to setup environmental variables... wouldnt hurt to look at .. =) |
| [02:40:00] | j-rod: | later all, off to face traffic for an hour or so... |
| [02:40:00] | xris: | :) |
| [02:40:00] | xris: | drive savely |
| [02:41:00] | xris: | safely, even |
| [02:41:00] | j-rod: | :S |
| [02:41:00] | j-rod: | driving savely... |
| [02:41:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [02:41:00] | j-rod: | I'll have to try both |
| [02:41:00] | j-rod: | hasta |
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| [02:41:00] | xris: | hmm, mythfrontend isn't letting me use the air2pc |
| [02:42:00] | xris: | switching cards just sends me back to the pvr-150 |
| [02:42:00] | Esotericisms: | I don't understand the link section of the env variables |
| [02:42:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms: what link section in particular? |
| [02:42:00] | Esotericisms: | about mkspecs |
| [02:43:00] | Esotericisms: | right before header distribution specific notes |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | xris: man, you didn't get my corrected script? |
| [02:43:00] | xris: | mchou: I haven't even gotten that far. just trying to tune channels first. |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [02:43:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, hey! |
| [02:43:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms: you should have a link in that folder called default |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | hey jemarcks |
| [02:44:00] | Esotericisms: | to where? |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, im trying to get a recording ready to burn on dvd! |
| [02:44:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericism: it is distro specific, but mine links to linux-g++ |
| [02:45:00] | xris: | w00t. I got something |
| [02:45:00] | xris: | it's all skippy, though. I wonder if that's a bandwidth issue. |
| [02:46:00] | dopester: | xris: 10bt? |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | skippy means your cpu aint powerful enough. |
| [02:46:00] | xris: | 100 |
| [02:46:00] | xris: | 6–7M/s |
| [02:46:00] | rtsai1111: | it could be the channel |
| [02:46:00] | rtsai1111: | try a different channel? |
| [02:46:00] | xris: | mchou: dual athlon 1900 should be plenty fast |
| [02:46:00] | dhofstra: | skippy as in too low of a cpu, or skippy as in antenna reception |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | xris: SORRY, NO. |
| [02:46:00] | Esotericisms: | I am assuming I should probably change from stable to unstable install for my debian install to get mythtv to work |
| [02:47:00] | dopester: | the backend will let ya know if the channel reception is not good |
| [02:47:00] | xris: | reception is fine. I'm 3 miles from the antenna |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | dual 1900 is about as good as 1 1900..... |
| [02:47:00] | rtsai1111: | esotericisms: i've been using testing, you shouldhave to go all the way to unstable if you don't want to |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | so your box is not powerful enough. |
| [02:48:00] | xris: | it's weird, too. black bars on top, bottom and left, and a pink one on the right. |
| [02:48:00] | Esotericisms: | rtsai1111, what does your sources list look like ? |
| [02:48:00] | Esotericisms: | does it just say testing where it would say stable? |
| [02:48:00] | rtsai1111: | I think so. I've never used stable :) |
| [02:48:00] | rtsai1111: | I used to use: deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free |
| [02:48:00] | rtsai1111: | Now I use: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe |
| [02:49:00] | rtsai1111: | I think you just replace stable with testing |
| [02:49:00] | dhofstra: | you might get a 1900 do do hdtv if you dare to go the xvmc route... heh |
| [02:49:00] | rtsai1111: | But I don't know that stable won't get you a working myth setup. |
| [02:49:00] | xris: | well, that's good to know, I guess. |
| [02:50:00] | xris: | I'll be upgrading my machine at some point, anyway... as soon as intel sends out another good deal. |
| [02:50:00] | dhofstra: | xris: FYI I can get great HD at about 85% cpu on a celeron D 2.5ghz |
| [02:50:00] | xris: | well, my main mythbox is a 2.4G p4, so that should be ok |
| [02:50:00] | dhofstra: | fine |
| [02:50:00] | bomba: | replace debian with gentoo |
| [02:50:00] | xris: | I'm curious about the pink bar, though |
| [02:51:00] | dhofstra: | never seen a pink bar, but could your monitor be packing a bunch of pixels that are actually running off the side? |
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| [02:51:00] | xris: | about 300 pixel border around the video |
| [02:52:00] | xris: | can't screenshot because it's XV |
| [02:52:00] | dhofstra: | dunno, but then I use the pchdtv |
| [02:53:00] | xris: | I assume it has something to do with widescreen vs not |
| [02:53:00] | awb4422: | this is kind of OT – does anyone know of a movie collection organizer. I find one called monotheka, but it requires mono 1.1.*, which some distros dont yet include |
| [02:53:00] | xris: | the pink bar comes from the 4:3 stuff on hd channels |
| [02:53:00] | awb4422: | i'm not looking for something super fancy, just an imdb query feature |
| [02:53:00] | dhofstra: | awb4422: i use videodb and it is really nice |
| [02:53:00] | dhofstra: | really really nice |
| [02:54:00] | xris: | but it's cropped.. channel number (from myth) is cropped, as is the channel logo |
| [02:54:00] | awb4422: | dhofstra – doesnt that require mysql and php? |
| [02:54:00] | dhofstra: | awb4422 http://lisadaveh.cjb.net/videodb/index.php and yes probably, but what distro cant do mysql and php? |
| [02:55:00] | awb4422: | none, but i was looking for more of a client based |
| [02:55:00] | awb4422: | i'll try that though |
| [02:55:00] | xris: | but hey, at least it's recording... |
| [02:55:00] | awb4422: | thx |
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| [02:57:00] | ** dhofstra added some stuff to the wikipedia definition of mythtv.. heh thats pretty cool ** | |
| [02:58:00] | sunilonln: | what would be the best way to password protect mythweb? |
| [02:58:00] | sunilonln: | what would be the best way to password protect mythweb? |
| [02:59:00] | dhofstra: | isnt there something in the mythweb readme? something about htaccess? |
| [02:59:00] | sunilonln: | maybe.. i'll look |
| [02:59:00] | sunilonln: | thanks |
| [03:01:00] | Esotericisms: | well I am doing a dist upgrade of my debian to sarge ... so I am going to try this again after it updates tonight |
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| [03:05:00] | awb4422: | for all you debianites out there... i've typically stuck to stock debian repo's, but how safe would it be to use packages from http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org? I understand that its in experimental... |
| [03:05:00] | rtsai1111: | i only switched to ubuntu because the alioth servers are *slow* |
| [03:06:00] | awb4422: | ubuntu is nice, but i really need something that has mono 1.1 |
| [03:06:00] | awb4422: | im building gentoo on my box right now... now that is SLOW |
| [03:07:00] | Esotericisms: | I am just trying to get mythtv to work :/ |
| [03:07:00] | Esotericisms: | got my wintv go card today and all my other parts from around the house ;) |
| [03:08:00] | dhofstra: | awb4422: I may be wrong, but I think suse 9.3 has mono, I could check if you like |
| [03:08:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms: building from scratch isnt that bad, but if your distro has packages, it may be lots easier |
| [03:08:00] | awb4422: | ah i see..im trying to stay away from rpm's, but if it has it... i might give it a try |
| [03:08:00] | dhofstra: | let me check a sec, booting up |
| [03:09:00] | awb4422: | cool thx |
| [03:10:00] | dhofstra: | it has beagle, and I think that uses mono, but still booting to check |
| [03:10:00] | rtsai1111: | Is pkg-mono a complete distro, or is it just one more line you can add to sources.list? |
| [03:11:00] | awb4422: | beagle uses mono |
| [03:11:00] | sunilonln: | did anyone have any ideas for my audio problems? |
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| [03:11:00] | awb4422: | rtsai1111: one line |
| [03:11:00] | Esotericisms: | I have done t he whole gentoo route ... don't care to do it again atm |
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| [03:12:00] | rtsai1111: | then your risk ought to be limited to just the pkg-mono stuff. In any case, dist-upgrade will tell you what it wants to "fix" to give you time to abort |
| [03:12:00] | dhofstra: | awb4422: suse 9.3 has mono 1.1.4–15 |
| [03:12:00] | awb4422: | nice |
| [03:13:00] | rtsai1111: | FWIW, Ubuntu appears to have a bunch of mono stuff too |
| [03:13:00] | rtsai1111: | so deb packages are out there |
| [03:13:00] | awb4422: | ubuntu does have mono, but it is 1.0.5 |
| [03:14:00] | rtsai1111: | ah |
| [03:14:00] | dhofstra: | BTW : 9.3 is only for sale right now, personal version will be out in a few months |
| [03:14:00] | awb4422: | ubuntu breezy has 1.1.7 |
| [03:14:00] | awb4422: | maybe ill dist-upgrade :/ |
| [03:17:00] | dhofstra: | awb 4422: sourceforge has lots of movie database software: here is a java one http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmm/ |
| [03:17:00] | awb4422: | i just checked that out |
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| [03:19:00] | awb4422: | dhofstra: i think i'm going to use the one that you use |
| [03:19:00] | dhofstra: | it is web-base, but easy to setup and backup |
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| [03:22:00] | challenged: | howdy all: im looking to set up mythtv on my debian sarge box....i dont see any sarge debs around is there a conflict there? |
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| [03:22:00] | challenged: | also whats the best card/cpu/MB fro me to purchase for said beast |
| [03:24:00] | challenged: | hmm population = zero? |
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| [03:25:00] | iggy: | challenged: !via |
| [03:28:00] | challenged: | !via |
| [03:28:00] | challenged: | hmm bloodbot dead? |
| [03:28:00] | MiX-MaN: | anyone know where a good howto guide for slackware/mythtv is? |
| [03:29:00] | challenged: | are the haupagge pvr 500 cards supported ? |
| [03:30:00] | challenged: | it seems some people complain about quality but i cant find a chronological line on it |
| [03:32:00] | iggy: | challenged: I was saying "anything except via" |
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| [03:36:00] | challenged: | iggy : ahh hehe kk well i figured that coz of the dma issues |
| [03:36:00] | challenged: | im just about to go out and buy a PC to do myth/dvd archives |
| [03:37:00] | iggy: | I've had good luck with nforce2+athlon xp's |
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| [03:38:00] | challenged: | cool, much diff between intel & AMD speeds comparatively...ie amd do it alot better? |
| [03:39:00] | iggy: | not really |
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| [03:39:00] | iggy: | I'm just a cheap shit, so I don't buy intel |
| [03:39:00] | dhofstra: | I think the intel stuff does do a better job on High Def stuff , and the celeron D is a pretty cheap chip |
| [03:41:00] | iggy: | personally, since I've had an athlon64 at work, I'm not getting anything else (especially those winchester cores) |
| [03:41:00] | ** iggy rubs his nipples ** | |
| [03:41:00] | iggy: | but I've never used ivtv/mythtv on it |
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| [03:54:00] | challenged: | well im thinking dual cpu p4s....nvidia something card (not gaming much ) and maybee a pvr350 hauppage card... |
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| [03:55:00] | challenged: | should be ample for what i need myth wise but i will be running other frontends around the house too |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | kormoc is nuts. must have no tastebuds. |
| [04:00:00] | kormoc: | Ooh? |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | frostbite |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | 1M scoville |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | wacky kormoc |
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| [04:01:00] | kormoc: | hehe, yeah, it's gonna be hot :) |
| [04:02:00] | kormoc: | tho, if you noticed, I said, Aww shit, that white hot sauce is 1 million scoville |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | yes |
| [04:03:00] | kormoc: | so I'm just a tad (read hell of a sure) worried that it's gonna be too hot :P |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | heh |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | well, it'll just have to be something you add to food, rather than eat AS food. |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | yeah :) |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | I'll stick with the mild but flavorful stuff, myself. |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | I got a jar of the mild but pepper rich flavor stuff |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | so maybe I'll mix a little |
| [04:06:00] | xris: | yeah, would definitely be good for turning the heat up in stuff like that. |
| [04:06:00] | xris: | or for chili |
| [04:07:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:09:00] | mchou: | habernero?? |
| [04:10:00] | mchou: | scottish bonnet? |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | http://www.sweatnspice.com/proddetail.php?prod=169&cat=5 |
| [04:10:00] | mchou: | most hot sauces aren't very hot..... |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | 1M scoville is hot |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | mchou, it's 1,000,000 scoville |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | mchou, haberneros are 200,000 to 500,000 scoville |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | bah, try some thai hot saouse. So hot it breaks scoville :) |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | kormoc: 100–350k |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | sauce* |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | nah |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | http://www.sweatnspice.com/proddetail.php?prod=429&cat=17 |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | pure crystal capsaicin |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | thai hot sauce? you mean chili paste? I think it usually ranks around 100k (if that) |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | can't get hotter |
| [04:12:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | thai is about 100k to 150k or so iirc |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | triditional that is |
| [04:12:00] | mchou: | $200??? What a rip. |
| [04:12:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | for that much capsaicin, it's worth it |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | if you can use it that is |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | thai peppers rank 50–100k scoville. so chili paste can't get MUCH hotter than that (a little bit, by reducing it, which they do) |
| [04:13:00] | mchou: | kormoc: I didnt mean thai chili peepers, I meant thai hot sauce :) |
| [04:13:00] | ** xris wonders what you could even cook with a DROP of that stuff. ** | |
| [04:13:00] | mchou: | peppers* |
| [04:13:00] | xris: | mchou: he heard you. the chili paste really isn't that hot in comparison. you can only get so hot by reducing them to paste |
| [04:13:00] | kormoc: | xris, that 16 million reserve is crystal, like salt |
| [04:13:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:14:00] | xris: | kormoc: ah, thought he mixed it with an oil or something to keep it liquid. |
| [04:14:00] | xris: | or partly liquid |
| [04:14:00] | kormoc: | yeah, the 6 am stuff is |
| [04:14:00] | kormoc: | the 16 million reserve is pure capsaicin crystal |
| [04:14:00] | xris: | ah. but that's only 3M or something, no? |
| [04:14:00] | kormoc: | nah, the 6 am is 13.5 million to 16 million, depending if you hit a cryatal in it |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | athing that adds vinegar isn't really hot (since vinegar will only make it "taste" hot) |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | anything* |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | vinegar keeps it liquid |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | http://www.sweatnspice.com/hot-sauce/blairs-6am.php |
| [04:15:00] | xris: | kormoc: I must have been reading about the 3 AM stuff, thn |
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| [04:15:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | bah, I tried all those hot sauces from these boutiques. They arent hot at all. The only thing hot on them are the packaging. |
| [04:16:00] | kormoc: | mchou, I eat habanaros as snacks, if that gives you ideas on my heat tollerence. |
| [04:16:00] | ** kormoc loves deep fried habanaros. ** | |
| [04:17:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | nutcase :) |
| [04:17:00] | kormoc: | mchou, where do you live? |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | kormoc: bah, that aint nothing. |
| [04:17:00] | ** kormoc wants to bring over some hot sauces. ** | |
| [04:17:00] | xris: | brb. stupid X forwarding is broken. |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | Northern CA. |
| [04:17:00] | kormoc: | ooh, close! |
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| [04:17:00] | kormoc: | I'll stop by with some hot sauces on my way though sometime |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | I eat hot sauces for breakfast. |
| [04:17:00] | kormoc: | and yo ucan chug them down |
| [04:17:00] | kormoc: | okay, I'm gonna hold you to it! |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | If the food aint spicy, by definition it's not food :) |
| [04:18:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:18:00] | kormoc: | we'll see |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | kormoc: if you are ever in Portland, go visit this rest called Salvado Mollys. |
| [04:19:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:19:00] | kormoc: | I've heard bout that |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | only restaurant where I've been blown out by the heat. |
| [04:19:00] | kormoc: | it's not that bad I've heard. |
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| [04:19:00] | mchou: | they have a heat scale of 1–20. |
| [04:20:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | 1–10: jalapeno, 10–20 habernero. |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | what did you eat at? |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | I ordered a 20 and managed to finish (with difficulty) |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | kormoc: hmm??? |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | so why do you tihnk you can eat a hot sauce 3x as hot as haberneros? |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | 3x to 10x as hot :P |
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| [04:21:00] | mchou: | cause those sauces are for pussies. These are fresh peppers ground up. No comparison. |
| [04:22:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | yeah? I eat habanaros deep fried hole with the seeds, yum yum! |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | putting peppers into food is for wimps ;) |
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| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | welp, I'll give their food a shot sometime, I plan to be in portland sometime next month I think |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | yeah, go check it out. If you can finish 20 then we can meet :) |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc, you're a freak :) |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | cause then you will be a worth adversary :) |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | nothing wrong with being a freak, of course |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | anyway, I've never met a gringo that can really stand hot food :) |
| [04:24:00] | kormoc: | hehe, it's a gift from my dad |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | I'm talking real hot* |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | whatever, mchou |
| [04:24:00] | kormoc: | as a kid, he was like, I'll give you $5 to eat this pepper, holding a habanero :) |
| [04:25:00] | kormoc: | and I managed to do that many a time and just got to the point when they wern't that hot :) |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | haha.... |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | you dad had you for amusement. |
| [04:25:00] | kormoc: | he had all 4 of us kids :) |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | see how many pitchers of water you chugged..... |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | nah |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | if it's hot enough to warrent liquid, it's a alcoholic drink :) |
| [04:26:00] | mchou: | bah. |
| [04:26:00] | mchou: | I challenge to to spicy food with coke to wash down :) |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | water doesn't do shit, so why bother? |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | carbonation is beeter than vinegar :) |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | better* |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | prolong the "heat" |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | xris, 350,000 – 580,000 Red Savina habanero, so they can get that hot, it's just a special type of pepper |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | kormoc: so say on a typical day, and you're snacking on haberneros. How many do you eat (in what amount of time) |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | cause the heat does crescendo the more you eat :) |
| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | when I usually snack on them, I grab bout 4 or 5, throw them in a pan with some butter, brown them up and much them down. |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | bah, 4–5. What a wuss. |
| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | it's a snack, not a meal... |
| [04:31:00] | mchou: | if you aint sweating, it aint hot :) |
| [04:31:00] | ** kormoc laughs. ** | |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | so what, I just get bum peppers or somethin? :P |
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| [04:33:00] | xris: | kormoc, can you do me a favor and run this: SELECT * FROM videosource; |
| [04:33:00] | xris: | actually, just "SELECT lineupid FROM videosource;" |
| [04:33:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:34:00] | xris: | actually, anyone else, too, if you want. |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | WA63873:- |
| [04:35:00] | xris: | interesting.... |
| [04:35:00] | xris: | trying to auto-detect broadcast lineup id's |
| [04:35:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [04:36:00] | xris: | for automatic attaching of datadirect info to scanned hdtv broadcast channels |
| [04:36:00] | kormoc: | ahh, coolness |
| [04:36:00] | xris: | which I guess doesn't work so well since people will probably want to use this script for cable, too. blech. |
| [04:36:00] | xris: | ok, next.. anyone here with digital cable? |
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| [04:42:00] | xris: | no one? what about directv? |
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| [04:45:00] | GeckoFiend: | xris I have directtv |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | I need "SELECT lineupid FROM videosource;" |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | (working on a script to auto link datadirect stuff with air2pc scan data) |
| [04:46:00] | Beirdo: | go, xris :) |
| [04:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | | DITV542:- | |
| [04:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | | PC:43040 | |
| [04:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | | PC:43026 | |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | so you have two OTA listings, and one DTV? |
| [04:47:00] | sunilonln: | is there a way to tell myth what channel to tune to before entering live mode? |
| [04:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah mainly because I've not redone my chanels for LxM. |
| [04:48:00] | sunilonln: | frontend is freezing for me when i try to change channels |
| [04:48:00] | GeckoFiend: | I should just have one ota and the one directv |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: is LxM going to have different source id's? |
| [04:48:00] | GeckoFiend: | nope |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | ok. well, I'll deal with it when I come to it (if need be) |
| [04:49:00] | GeckoFiend: | 4 | test | technovera | jdonavan | default | PC:43026 |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | ok, cool |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | just want to build a query that ignores stuff like Dish. |
| [04:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | DITV542:- is my DirecTV feed |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | guess I can't ignore digital cable listings since that's what I actually need to pull in for comparison |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | yeah, figured that. |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | mine says DISH819 |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | so I can at least ignore ^(DISH|DITV) |
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| [05:02:00] | xris: | interesting. zap2it is missing a channel |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | blech. stupid naming differences between the channels themselves and dd. |
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| [05:27:00] | LedHed: | anyone here use DVD::Rip? |
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| [05:31:00] | laga: | i used to, but i only have 4 dvds.. |
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| [05:52:00] | xris: | hmm, so my local stations have "sd" channels but they don't actually broadcast SD data.. instead of prime time shows, you get the show in HD, and a weather cam on the SD channel. lol. |
| [06:11:00] | MiX-MaN: | sigh... anyone know where i can find a howto guide for slackware/mythtv |
| [06:23:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [06:23:00] | Beirdo: | whereever you put it after you write it |
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| [06:26:00] | slePP: | anyone use a universal remote w/ a hauppauge receiver? |
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| [06:27:00] | MiX-MaN: | guess thats what im gonna have to do |
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| [06:39:00] | xris: | Beirdo: nuvexport definitely has issues with TS files. |
| [06:41:00] | JonXP: | SO I'm in the process of installing MythTV, does it have any way to tune in to UDP broadcast streams (ie. VLC)? |
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| [06:41:00] | JonXP: | Just curious if I'll be able to use that function |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | JonXP: you mean basic OTA broadcasts? that's up to the tuner card. |
| [06:46:00] | JonXP: | NO... |
| [06:46:00] | JonXP: | Err.. |
| [06:46:00] | JonXP: | No... |
| [06:46:00] | JonXP: | I mean, video streamed over your LAN. |
| [06:47:00] | JonXP: | For example, you can send a UDP stream over a multicast IP with VLC and advertise it using SAP, then any other aware client on your network can watch it |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | oh, sorry, was thinking UHF, lol. |
| [06:47:00] | JonXP: | Hahah |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | I think there might be a stream client, but I'm honestly not sure. |
| [06:48:00] | xris: | (been playing too much with OTA hdtv lately, I guess) |
| [06:48:00] | JonXP: | Help! My tuner only gets channels 1–13! Fix my MythTV! |
| [06:48:00] | JonXP: | ;-) |
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| [06:49:00] | visit0r: | xris: ok :I |
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| [06:50:00] | xris: | JonXP: anyway, I don't know. I've been asking for one to grab the BBC multicasts for a few weeks, though. would be slick to be able to watch/record them. |
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| [06:52:00] | JonXP: | Well, this would be a slightly different mechanism. |
| [06:52:00] | JonXP: | It would be strictly for streaming video on your LAN |
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| [06:55:00] | xris: | oh, for streaming TO. um, no.. I've heard talk of that (to let multiple frontends watch the same stream from the backend), but I don't think that went anywhere. |
| [06:55:00] | JonXP: | Hrmmm |
| [06:56:00] | JonXP: | It's a rather implemented thing. |
| [06:56:00] | JonXP: | Like, most (open source) media players support it, I think. |
| [06:56:00] | xris: | sending out a multicast signal? |
| [06:56:00] | JonXP: | Heck WinAMP even has a plugin for it. |
| [06:56:00] | JonXP: | Receiving a multicast signal |
| [06:57:00] | JonXP: | But It's hard, and I can see why it would't be in there. |
| [06:57:00] | kormoc: | well you could add support for it |
| [06:57:00] | JonXP: | Definitely should be on the todo list, I would think. |
| [06:57:00] | ** kormoc nudges JonXP ** | |
| [06:57:00] | JonXP: | I know I know. |
| [06:57:00] | xris: | JonXP: it'd be pretty easy to just add a call to the theme to add a new button. |
| [06:57:00] | JonXP: | But I have to pay the bills, work on my own projects, THEN work on hobbies. |
| [06:57:00] | kormoc: | heh :) |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | JonXP: I know the feeling. |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | and myth stuff *is* "my own projects" |
| [06:58:00] | JonXP: | And I don't know jack about video programming. I could make it find and receive the stream...but from there, I'd be dead in the water |
| [06:59:00] | JonXP: | Well, I'm just installing it right now to play with the non PVR bits of it. |
| [06:59:00] | JonXP: | Considering I don't have a tuner, but I see great promise in making it a TV info center/computer. |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | I've been using myth for something like a year and a half (or maybe 2) now. |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | only now that I have a pvr-150 do I think it's finally usable as a decent tv system |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | mythweb and nuvexport (my projects) still need a lot of work, too. |
| [07:02:00] | JonXP: | Well, if it looks like I really like this thing, I'll dust off my C++ skills and see if I can make anything useful |
| [07:03:00] | adante: | thanks for mythweb, made my life a lot easier |
| [07:03:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Regarding your stream-to-LAN needs, have you checked out MythStreamTV? |
| [07:03:00] | xris: | adante: mine, too. :) |
| [07:03:00] | xris: | NightMonkey: do you have the link for that? I need to add it to my list of things to do on mythweb. |
| [07:03:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: nope, haen't even fnished installing yet, but I'm figuring out the options I want. Got a link? |
| [07:03:00] | xris: | lost the link, thoughh |
| [07:04:00] | NightMonkey: | http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ |
| [07:04:00] | xris: | actually, I can probably just google it. heh |
| [07:05:00] | JonXP: | See, I want it to work backwards. |
| [07:05:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: It's a "plugin" for MythWeb. Works with 0.18. Not really a plugin, but acts like one. Changes the code to MythWEB to add a VLC stream creator component. |
| [07:05:00] | JonXP: | Basically, I want to stream my videos and have Myth pick them up. |
| [07:05:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Oh. That's different, I think. |
| [07:05:00] | JonXP: | Yeah |
| [07:05:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Nothing to see here, move along ;). |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | anyone here know if mysql 3 can do a multi-table update? |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | nevermind, can't. blech. |
| [07:07:00] | JonXP: | MySQL 3?! |
| [07:07:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Joshua, the MythStreamTV main (only?) dev is pretty helpful – very user-centric. I'm afraid that he may be going to stretch himself a bit thin, tho. |
| [07:08:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: He is so concerned for his users that he wants to collect binary compiles of VLC and ffmpeg for lots of arches. |
| [07:08:00] | xris: | NightMonkey: I know how that feels all too well |
| [07:08:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:08:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: I'm sure you do! |
| [07:09:00] | ** xris ponders getting kormoc to work on mythweb.... ** | |
| [07:09:00] | kormoc: | I have plans too once my home life settles down a bit :) |
| [07:10:00] | JonXP: | Hey now, this is mythtv-users! This is SO a -dev conversation. ;-) |
| [07:10:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [07:11:00] | NightMonkey: | -dev doesn't have "conversations". "Conversations" are too warm and fuzzy. Only progress reports and status updates and code blocks allowed. ;) |
| [07:11:00] | JonXP: | Heheh |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | kormoc: no, you must start NOW. you should have no personal life. ;) |
| [07:12:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [07:12:00] | JonXP: | I tell you want I want to do, I want to have a full-featured automatic MythTV installation. |
| [07:13:00] | JonXP: | Similar to the Myth/Knoppix blend... |
| [07:13:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Knoppmyth? |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | kormoc: you should devote all of your time to computers.. let the redhead be damned! :) |
| [07:13:00] | JonXP: | But one that will configure itself. |
| [07:13:00] | ** kormoc laughs some more ** | |
| [07:13:00] | ** xris remembers that he did have his own hot redhead at kormoc's age. ** | |
| [07:14:00] | JonXP: | See, I can't use Knoppmyth due to my hardware setup (I have to have kernel sources for my drivers) |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | Sorry, Redhead much more important, I'll hand in my geek card if I have too :P |
| [07:14:00] | JonXP: | I can USE it, but it's all but unusable, I guess I should say. |
| [07:14:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: What drivers are those? |
| [07:15:00] | JonXP: | The main one is my remote control/wireless VGA transmitter. |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | xris, sadly, we just hit 5000 phone minutes yesterday... |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | lol |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | that's amazing |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's totally wacky |
| [07:15:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Is that a PCI card? |
| [07:15:00] | JonXP: | I can get it all working with gentoo just fine...it just takes FOREVER. |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | good thing she'll be here tomorrow |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [07:16:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: no it's USB |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | my phone usage is like |
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| [07:16:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: You know you don't have to go with complete source compiles, right? |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | ____|____ |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | just find her a good job that isn't off-hours from you. off-hours schedules SUCK. I never get a day off with my wife. |
| [07:16:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Use the GRP, the compile what you want later. |
| [07:16:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:16:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: I know, but I need to have the source around at least. |
| [07:17:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: You mean for the kernel? |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | she's actually intrested in sales at simech |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | interesting. |
| [07:17:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: Yeah, and I have bad luck trying to get sources after the fact. :-) |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | yeah... |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | blech. ran a bad script without backing up my db. |
| [07:18:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Hmm... You'll get the kernel sources if you just emerge gentoo-sources after you finish the GRP install, I believe. |
| [07:18:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: But I'm used to gentoo, and I never have a problem with it after it's set up. |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | she's enough of a people person, just not that strong with our sorta tech tho |
| [07:19:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Oh, me neither. I'm just thinking you might be taking more time than you'd like. :) |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | cool, I may have figured out this local hdtv scan -> dd linkup |
| [07:20:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: Well farking heck, I'd never heard about those stupid GRP things. That's really useful. |
| [07:20:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
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| [07:21:00] | xris: | hdtv is HUGE, though. 600 megs for a 5 minute segment. |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | ! |
| [07:21:00] | xris: | and so far, nuvexport can't do anything to the recordings. ffmpeg and transcode both freak out. |
| [07:22:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:22:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: For most uses, GRP is just fine. Those components you still need to "rice out", you can change the USE flags, do a "emerge --newuse world" and go go go. |
| [07:23:00] | ** NightMonkey is a happy Gentoo user, hold the flames, please ** | |
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| [07:23:00] | ** kormoc is a happy gentoo user too ** | |
| [07:24:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: You'll find --newuse very useful, if you haven't used that already. |
| [07:24:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: Yeah I don't use Gentoo for the 'riciness' I use it because it's the only distro I've ever used that ALWAYS works or can be made to work. |
| [07:24:00] | JonXP: | Yeah, I try to save time by doing a stage 3 and doing a --newuse |
| [07:24:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: I think the Ricer stuff is now quaintly funny. Any large group of people has it's dunderheads. |
| [07:24:00] | NightMonkey: | it's=its |
| [07:25:00] | JonXP: | I'd never seen the GRPs before. GOnna have to investigate. |
| [07:25:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Have fun! |
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| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | yay. a Gentoo debate |
| [07:25:00] | JonXP: | Hahaha |
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| [07:25:00] | JonXP: | It's not a debate! It's a gentoo agreement. :-: |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | JonXP: just use stage3 |
| [07:25:00] | JonXP: | :-P |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | seriously |
| [07:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: No debate. |
| [07:25:00] | xris: | blech. twice now I've wiped out my scanned channel data without setting things properly. |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | usually in here I have to defend myself. |
| [07:26:00] | ** Cardoe sticks a post-it note on xris' screen that says "1. Backup 2. Test" ** | |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:26:00] | JonXP: | :-D |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | faster to just rescan the channels |
| [07:27:00] | NightMonkey: | I thought it was 1. Change config somewhere 2. Test 3. Backup 4. Restore? |
| [07:27:00] | ** JonXP taps fingers while the GUI compiles. ** | |
| [07:27:00] | xris: | or in my case "comment out the destructive stuff" |
| [07:27:00] | JonXP: | Package 19 of 74 |
| [07:27:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Got ccache and/or distcc? |
| [07:28:00] | JonXP: | NightMonkey: Definitely. Or not. It depends on whther I know what they are and have them or not. |
| [07:29:00] | xris: | crap. well so much for that working. |
| [07:29:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Heh. ccache is a cache for gcc. It really helps for re-compiles, not necessarily for first compiles. But distcc is for "distributed compiles". If you have spare PCs, you can have distcc "deal out" a compile job to them. |
| [07:30:00] | JonXP: | ONly if they're linux PCs right? |
| [07:30:00] | JonXP: | SO no. ;-) |
| [07:30:00] | JonXP: | ALl my other PCs are desktops. |
| [07:31:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Well, yeah, getting a "complete toolchain" on something like Cygwin on Windows is a bit much. |
| [07:31:00] | JonXP: | AndyCap: begin the flames, I dislike Linux as a desktop environment. |
| [07:31:00] | JonXP: | AARRRGH |
| [07:31:00] | ** JonXP kills his nick completion ** | |
| [07:31:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Others have done that, I know, but I've never done it. |
| [07:32:00] | JonXP: | That line was supposed to begin: And, begin the flames... |
| [07:32:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: No flames here. It isn't for everyone. Mac OS X is nice (tho Tiger seems a bit rushed). |
| [07:33:00] | JonXP: | Yeah, but OSX can only be installed on Macs. |
| [07:33:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: I like fluxbox/ROX, but Windows/Mac OS X are really VERY integrated desktops. |
| [07:34:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Things happen very similarly in widely different "components", which is due to lots of UI research and $$. |
| [07:34:00] | JonXP: | I sometimes wonder if all the people who complain about Microsoft's "monopoly" realize taht if Mac ran the show, they'd have NO hardware options. |
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| [07:34:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Well, they'd have one hardware option. |
| [07:35:00] | JonXP: | Well, yeah |
| [07:35:00] | JonXP: | But, only one company would make computers, operating systems, and applications. |
| [07:35:00] | NightMonkey: | JonXP: Mostly, I think the biggest complain is how Virus-compliant so many different parts of the Windows environment is. |
| [07:35:00] | NightMonkey: | complain=complaint |
| [07:36:00] | JonXP: | Yeah, noting that safe computing can't prevent, but developers always assume that you have admin access to the machine. |
| [07:36:00] | JonXP: | Because most people do. |
| [07:36:00] | JonXP: | *sigh* |
| [07:37:00] | JonXP: | Microsoft is going to try to enforce the "DOn't use computer as administrator" rule for Longhorn though. |
| [07:37:00] | JonXP: | Limited user accounts, and such |
| [07:39:00] | JonXP: | But that's enough talking about non-linux OSes on a Linux application's channel |
| [07:39:00] | Bob-Laptop: | JonXP: you may be to young to remember there was an antitrust lawsuit against Apple years ago |
| [07:39:00] | NightMonkey: | Bob-Laptop: Oh, yeah! The Power Computing thing? |
| [07:40:00] | NightMonkey: | Bob-Laptop: Or are you talking about something else? |
| [07:40:00] | Bob-Laptop: | JonXP: I hardly remember the details, I was not a computer user back then |
| [07:40:00] | JonXP: | Bob-Laptop: I'm prolly not too young, but I didn't get involved in computer news till late nineties. |
| [07:40:00] | Bob-Laptop: | this was back in the late 80's early 90's if I remember correctly |
| [07:41:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Am I having false memory syndrome, or do I recall that you were interested in taking MythStreamTV into the MythWeb fold? |
| [07:43:00] | xris: | yes |
| [07:43:00] | xris: | well, at least putting official hooks in for it. |
| [07:43:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Wow. Sort of a plugin infrastructure? |
| [07:43:00] | xris: | sort of. |
| [07:44:00] | xris: | more like a config flag to set that would enable linking to it. |
| [07:44:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Like something that would tell MythWeb to "look in this directory and run what's there" kinda thing? |
| [07:44:00] | xris: | my goal would be to have a mythstream cgi that you pass parameters to on the URL string... so you could have something like: stream.cgi?type=xvid&h=320&w=240&id=.... |
| [07:45:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Oh, wow. Much more than I was imagining. URI stuffs. |
| [07:45:00] | xris: | then the user could just pick a show, choose some settings, and then stream it. |
| [07:46:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: While it isn't "integrated" into the MythWeb/MythStreamTV interface, the VLC "remote control" is kinda cool. Almost gives you Mythfrontend-like control over the stream (rewind, ff, pause, etc.) |
| [07:47:00] | xris: | that's cool. |
| [07:47:00] | xris: | I haven't really messed much with vlc. |
| [07:47:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: I *think* that VLC also allows hooks to apps to control that, forgoeing the need to have a seperate VLC control page. |
| [07:48:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: So it *could* be done all from MythWeb. |
| [07:48:00] | JonXP: | I swear by VLC (just wish it was more stable) |
| [07:48:00] | xris: | NightMonkey: could.. but I have no way to test any browser video plugins. |
| [07:48:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Could I help you by finding specific references to that API? |
| [07:48:00] | xris: | there are zero good ones for linux. |
| [07:49:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Well, I know what you mean. mplayer (and the Mozilla mplayer plugin does work ok for me). VLC has a browser plugin, but it is Feature Free(tm). |
| [07:50:00] | NightMonkey: | Wow, I let my parens get away from me. |
| [07:50:00] | NightMonkey: | Lets try that again. |
| [07:50:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Well, I know what you mean. mplayer (and the Mozilla mplayer plugin) does work ok for me. VLC has a browser plugin, but it is Feature Free(tm). |
| [07:51:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: But only the most recent mplayer plguin does anything resembling a decent job. |
| [07:51:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: But, still, your point stand. Zero good ones ;). |
| [07:52:00] | NightMonkey: | I do like how far quicktime support has come in Linux-land. |
| [07:55:00] | xris: | weird pink bar down the side of my hdtv playback |
| [07:55:00] | ** kormoc just uses qt as a browser plugin ** | |
| [07:56:00] | JonXP: | I use a three progned plug to plug in my browser |
| [07:56:00] | JonXP: | pronged* |
| [07:57:00] | xris: | stupid pink bar |
| [07:58:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Ok, I need to correct something. What I found on videolan.org is that the "hooks" I was talking about are actually javascript hooks to allow control of the VLC plugin, not the HTTP controller interface. Just so I don't leave you with incorrect info. |
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| [14:15:00] | furfurfur: | hey all. DVB is recoreded on hdd without any further compression – is that right? |
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| [14:17:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [14:18:00] | furfurfur: | so why do my videos have .nuv extension.. impying NuppelVideo? :) |
| [14:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth uses the .nuv extention for all recordings |
| [14:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Including the mpeg2 stuff from DVB or PVRxx0 cards |
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| [14:22:00] | furfurfur: | Ah – thanks. I had a feeling that was the case but just wanted to check |
| [14:23:00] | Nod51: | I would like MythTV to change the channel on my satalite reciever and I woudl like to control my MythTV with a remote, is there a good input/output device I can buy to do this? |
| [14:25:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: you need a remote for your computer, you can build one for a few bucks. You'll want an IRBlaster to send the signal to the satellite box |
| [14:28:00] | Nod51: | just thought there might be an all-in-one deal but this is cool, thanks! |
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| [14:28:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: probably not, you need a transmitter and receiver |
| [14:28:00] | pridkett: | and myth will need to know what channel you're on |
| [14:29:00] | Agrajag-: | furfurfur: if you run nuvinfo on them you'll see it's an mpeg2 stream (and all the other info) |
| [14:29:00] | pridkett: | so myth needs to change the channel |
| [14:29:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: some receievers also can be controller via a cable, which is more reliable than using the IR blaster |
| [14:30:00] | Nod51: | pridkett: I am using Dish Network, I don't think it supports that... |
| [14:30:00] | furfurfur: | Agrajag-: thanks I will try that |
| [14:31:00] | Nod51: | pridkett: I will double check, is it normally a seperate channel changing cable? |
| [14:31:00] | Nod51: | pridkett: my pdHDTV3000 had this one jack I didn't know |
| [14:40:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: yeah, I noticed that on my card too, but haven't played with it. |
| [14:41:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: I use the remote on my pcHDTV card |
| [14:41:00] | pridkett: | errr....PVR 250 |
| [14:44:00] | Nod51: | pridkett: yeah thats an idea for remote input... |
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| [14:51:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: It says remote on the back of the card. There's even some markings on the card that say remote. I haven't played around with it because my dongle for my PVR250 works fine. |
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| [14:53:00] | Nod51: | pridkett: you mean on the pcHDTV3000 has IR support? |
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| [14:54:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: my card has a port that is marked as remote |
| [14:55:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: I haven't tried using it |
| [14:55:00] | pridkett: | Nod51: but the pins are on the card and it's got a bus that may support it |
| [14:55:00] | Nod51: | hmm intresting.. |
| [14:55:00] | Nod51: | wonder where I could buy a dongle for it. |
| [14:59:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
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| [15:01:00] | oneo: | hey guys – im getting "mythtv/exitcodes.h: No such file or directory" when trying to compile mythdvd...anyone know what i am missing? i think i have all the prereqs isntalled |
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| [15:19:00] | CyberKnet: | no, sorry oneo |
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| [15:20:00] | CyberKnet: | ever have the heat in your office so high you thought you were going to pass out? |
| [15:20:00] | CyberKnet: | gah |
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| [15:29:00] | Nod51: | anyone know where I can get the cable so the IR will work on the pcHDTV-3000 card? |
| [15:31:00] | Nod51: | I figure it a) doesn't exsist, b) nobody wants to use it, c) everyone but me knows where to find it already... |
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| [15:33:00] | adante: | excuse me a technical question: for dvb broadcasts, is it possible for the stream to dynamically change resolution/aspect ratio? |
| [15:34:00] | ZorroIII: | the tv switches aspect on atleast on the sat-boxes I have seen |
| [15:34:00] | ZorroIII: | so I believe the answer is yes ;) |
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| [15:34:00] | LaggyMcGee: | My commercials aren't flagged anymore....... It just stopped working – why would this happen? |
| [15:35:00] | LaggyMcGee: | It goes through all the motions – runs a job that says it's flagging commercials, the listing in MythWeb says the commercials are flagged, but when I go to skip them while I'm watching, it says "No Flags" |
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| [15:43:00] | CyberKnet: | LaggyMcGee: odd |
| [15:46:00] | pridkett: | LaggyMcGee: what does the job queue status say about the flagging process? |
| [15:47:00] | pridkett: | you can get to it from infocenter or by going to http://yourmythip:6544 |
| [15:47:00] | oneo: | LaggyMcGee – check the database table to see if it is corrupted...that happened to me and a database fix solved the problem |
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| [15:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | pridkett: The job queue status says everything's fine. |
| [15:50:00] | LaggyMcGee: | oneo: That was it. recordedmarkup.MYI was corrupt. Ran myisamchk -r recordedmarkup.MYI and it's fixed now. |
| [15:50:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Not home to test it, but I think that should do it. |
| [15:51:00] | pridkett: | LaggyMcGee: yeah, that will do it. Yet another reason to not be a fan of mysql. |
| [15:51:00] | pridkett: | LaggyMcGee: now you may have problems with transcoding those old episodes (at least I did when mine crashed) |
| [15:51:00] | LaggyMcGee: | lol |
| [15:52:00] | LaggyMcGee: | pridkett: If you're not a fan, can you use something else? postgres, maybe? |
| [15:52:00] | pridkett: | LaggyMcGee: not for myth you can't, at least not right now. A few years ago I had most of the stuff working with PostGres, but the support in QT got out of date and after 0.9 I stopped following the dev list. |
| [15:52:00] | pridkett: | it was more a private thing. |
| [15:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | ah |
| [15:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Hmmm, this is interesting... |
| [15:55:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I had never looked at port 6544 directly (always used MythWeb)... My slave backend says "Warning: This backend is low of free disk space".... but it's got 56 gigs free. |
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| [15:56:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Do slaves not keep track of their local space correctly, or do I not have it configured right? |
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| [16:03:00] | wsy: | Does anyone have any ideas for how to get a 2-tuner frontend to work? |
| [16:03:00] | wsy: | doing "lspci" shows both of them (both BT878's) |
| [16:03:00] | wsy: | The video works fine, but no audio. |
| [16:06:00] | wsy: | I get the little warning box that says "Continue with no audio? Y/N"" |
| [16:07:00] | pridkett: | wsy: don't bt878 capture audio in through the sound card? |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | most of them do |
| [16:10:00] | wsy: | pridkett: The mobo sound shows up (in 2.6.11) as /dev/sound/dsp, while the tuner sound shows up as /dev/sound/dsp1 |
| [16:10:00] | wsy: | And if I remove all the cards, reboot, delete /dev/sound/*, reboot again (to let it rebuild /dev/* then only /dev/sound/dsp shows up. |
| [16:11:00] | wsy: | shut down, add a card, and I see /dev/sound/dsp (the mobo sound card, provable by cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sound/dsp) and the |
| [16:11:00] | wsy: | tuner sound car at /dev/sound/dsp1. |
| [16:11:00] | wsy: | The problem happens when you add the *second* tuner card.... |
| [16:13:00] | wsy: | If you do that, /dev/sound/dsp2 appears (as you'd expect) but if you try to configure it in as the sound port for your second capture card, it shows the "no audio" error message. |
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| [16:21:00] | wsy: | pridkett, Beirdo: And it all works fine with tuner card, or with the second tuner card in the cage, but not configured as a tuner. |
| [16:21:00] | wsy: | That's why I'm so stuck. |
| [16:23:00] | tcube: | morning, everyone |
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| [16:24:00] | chkno: | Wouldn't two bt878's require two sound cards? |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | generally, yes, one sound card (for input) per tuner |
| [16:24:00] | chkno: | wsy: how do you have it wired – which tuner is plugged into the soundcard? |
| [16:28:00] | tcube: | I am experiencing choppy video and audio with either HD or DT content (HDTV3000/mythtv), how can I determine whats the bottleneck in my system? |
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| [16:30:00] | wsy: | chkno: There's no plugging. The tuner cards show up as /dev/sound/dsp1 and /dev/sound/dsp2. Seriously! And it works fine for the first tuner, but not for the second. That's what has me befuddled. |
| [16:31:00] | chkno: | tcube: You can rule out CPU by watching top. You can rule out disk IO by doing some other disk io (dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/file/on/same/hd) and checking if it gets worse. |
| [16:32:00] | wsy: | lunch call.. I'll be back later! Seeya all, and thanks! |
| [16:32:00] | pridkett: | wsy: you're probably better off finding a more directed forum for your particular card or set of drivers. |
| [16:32:00] | pridkett: | sorry we can't help. |
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| [16:33:00] | tcube: | Chkno, Thanks. I'll check that. my system is ( 3.8G dual core, ATIX600) I think the cpu is running at 77% |
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| [16:39:00] | oneo: | is there any way to tell myth's playback program to drop frames or to use mplayer? |
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| [16:45:00] | tcube: | chkno: it seems it gets worst when adding disk io task. that gives me some direction to work on, thanks ^^ |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | tcube: make sure your drive has DMA enabled |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | ah the joy of having decent headphones to drill the music into your head |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | aaha, the joy of being at home and having decent speakers.. |
| [16:52:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah the joys of being sick to your stomach and having only been at work for 3 hours so far :| |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | that blows :/ |
| [16:53:00] | CyberKnet: | almost blows chunks |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | blech |
| [16:53:00] | CyberKnet: | It is so hot in this office. |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | open the window? |
| [16:54:00] | CyberKnet: | s/window/wall |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | oh, ok. |
| [16:54:00] | CyberKnet: | just opened the door |
| [16:54:00] | CyberKnet: | that's as good as it gets |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a sledgehammer can't fix |
| [16:55:00] | tcube: | Beirdo: I have DMA enabled ( but it is an old pata drive 80gb). I got some "Prebuffering pause" message. I wonder if this is the reason that cause choppy video and audio |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [16:55:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: gas mains behind the wall could be a potential danger =) |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: minor details |
| [16:55:00] | CyberKnet: | yep |
| [16:55:00] | CyberKnet: | Guarantee even if I hit them, I'd feel better. |
| [16:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: BTW, do you know dhcpd? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | for a couple milliseconds maybe |
| [16:56:00] | ** Beirdo hides ** | |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [16:56:00] | laga: | Beirdo: umm...could you take a look at a small part of my dhcpd.conf? i' |
| [16:56:00] | laga: | m experiencing a problem with my frigging keyboard.. ;) |
| [16:56:00] | CyberKnet: | ... |
| [16:56:00] | CyberKnet: | does your keyboard host your ethernet jack or something? |
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| [16:57:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | laga: put it on pastebin.ca, and we'll see what we can do |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | Beirdo: this settop box is supposed to boot with the file "u-boot" and after it booted that, it should boot the kernel. unfortunately, it doesnt know the nfs-share for its /, and i cant get that fixed although i'm doing what's in the docs ;) |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | http://pastebin.ca/11409 |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | probably need a "next-server" line |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | to point it at the tftp server |
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| [16:59:00] | laga: | it already gets that file from the tftp server. |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | then the problem is in u-boot |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | I would think |
| [16:59:00] | laga: | the boot loader and the kernel load fine from tfp, but the boot loader doesnt know that it should start the kernel with the correct parameter for the nfs root. |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | Beirdo: that's what i think, too. i'll hardcode the nfs root, thanks. |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | PITA. |
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| [17:04:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [17:06:00] | xris: | well, my air2pc hdtv card works. |
| [17:06:00] | xris: | must say, hdtv looks NICE |
| [17:06:00] | xris: | I need to figure out what's up with that big pink bar, though |
| [17:08:00] | xris: | hmm, but now I need to go put that little HD symbol all over mythweb. heh. |
| [17:08:00] | riksta: | yo |
| [17:08:00] | riksta: | we don't have it yet |
| [17:10:00] | ** laga slaps himself over the head ** | |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | this u-boot has a boot prompt. |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | setenv rootpath /tftpboot/... |
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| [17:28:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you SO need to fix mpeg2cut now. heh. |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | there's nothing wrong with it last I looked |
| [17:29:00] | xris: | well, avidemux2 is wrong with it. heh |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | CVS avidemux from last weekend worked perfectly for me |
| [17:29:00] | xris: | fully-cli? |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:29:00] | xris: | my point. |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | of course not |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | so get some people to help me de-gtk the bitch |
| [17:30:00] | ** xris doesn't know any gtk coders... ** | |
| [17:30:00] | xris: | hopefully this will solve my transcode issues, though. cut out commercials FIRST, and then I can run transcode without a cutlist and actually have it not get all jumpy for the first few seconds. |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | I want to remove the gui completely and make it do JUST what we need |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | yes. that'd be nice. |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | I'll deal with the tickets later today |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | oh, I haven't been paying attention. |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | dopester: you around? |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna rip people a new asshole if they don't start leaving enough information in the ticket to determine the problems |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | do you have email for tickets working? |
| [17:37:00] | agile: | email for tickets? |
| [17:37:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no, I never turned it on. |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm. OK. |
| [17:38:00] | xris: | oh, wait. tickets. um, maybe. |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | I'm just adding a comment on #10 right now |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | there we go |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:39:00] | xris: | ok, now it is. |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | wonder why people are auto-assigning stuff to you? |
| [17:40:00] | xris: | oh, some of it just goes to me |
| [17:40:00] | xris: | trac is set that way. |
| [17:40:00] | xris: | everything goes to me except ffmpeg |
| [17:40:00] | xris: | that goes to you |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | you should add a category for mpeg2cut :) |
| [17:41:00] | xris: | I can change that if you want. |
| [17:41:00] | tcube: | I did some more test on the choppy audio/video issue. I record the show while watching livetv. the audio/video from live tv is still choppy. I stop recording and watch the recording and it is prefect. |
| [17:41:00] | xris: | done |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | hey, as long as you don't mind me stealing tickets from you that you haven't accepted, I don't care :) |
| [17:41:00] | xris: | yeah, I don't care. |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | if you've accepted the ticket, I'll assume you're working on it :) |
| [17:43:00] | tcube: | idoes this means the choppy video/audio of live tv is the communication problem between frontend and backend. ( btw, frontend and backend is the same machine)? |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | it could be, or it could just be a disk/whatever bottleneck |
| [17:44:00] | xris: | sounds good to me (re tickets) |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:44:00] | xris: | I can always just remove ownership |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | you can always disown a ticket when you don't want it anymore, or assign it over, whatever works |
| [17:47:00] | xris: | yup |
| [17:47:00] | xris: | man, I so want isaac to start using this for myth. |
| [17:47:00] | xris: | so much nicer than bugzilla. |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | time to go get some lunch |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | feel free to auto-assign mpeg2cut stuff to me (of course) |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: you in? |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | BRB, getting food. |
| [17:53:00] | kormoc: | anyone here using xinerama accross two nvidia cards? |
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| [18:01:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [18:02:00] | Cardoe: | mythweb work with PHP5 now? |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm back with food |
| [18:03:00] | xris: | afaik it has for months |
| [18:04:00] | xris: | if it doesn't, I need bug reports. |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: so for avidemux gutting... how much gtk do you know? :) |
| [18:04:00] | Cardoe: | a little bit |
| [18:04:00] | Cardoe: | I can write a basic gtk app with the docs next to me |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | cool. Well, I want to start looking at pulling the guts out of avidemux sometime soon, and I remembered you were interested :) |
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| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | I'm planning on setting up trac for it later this week (maybe even tonight, who knows) |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | the CVS version I checked out worked fine for me |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | so I'll talk to Evan (a coworker, also a Gentoo freak) about it too, hopefully between the three of us we can get a leg up on it soon |
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| [18:23:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – my dvb tuner is apparently in use, even though its not actually in use |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | sounds like it has a multiple use disorder. |
| [18:25:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | well ive just installed and set up so im not sure its set up properly |
| [18:25:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | any suggestions? |
| [18:27:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: yeah. I'll be here |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | Coolness |
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| [18:28:00] | mirak: | hi |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | when I try to run xawtv I get this error |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | This is xawtv-3.94, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.10-5–386) |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support. |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | ioctl: VIDIOCCAPTURE(int=1): Invalid argument |
| [18:29:00] | mirak: | I can't resolve the WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual |
| [18:29:00] | mirak: | configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [18:31:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | mirak – did you compile xawtv with support for X? |
| [18:33:00] | mirak: | I did not compiled, I use ubuntu |
| [18:33:00] | mirak: | Super_Cat_Frog: I guess it's out of the box |
| [18:34:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | have you tried tvtime instead of xawtv? |
| [18:34:00] | mirak: | mmm no |
| [18:34:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | tvtime is better imo than xawtv |
| [18:34:00] | mirak: | I try |
| [18:34:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | and easier to setup/use |
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| [18:42:00] | Beirdo: | mirak, you do realize this isn't #xawtv, I hope :) |
| [18:42:00] | niktaris: | Can't seem to find a way to make myth scan for all channels. Can anyone help? |
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| [18:45:00] | benklop: | i'm having 2 issues with myth... one, all my listings are 6 hours ahead, the other, it cant open the mixer |
| [18:45:00] | benklop: | anyone know how to solve either of these |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | niktaris: mythtv doesn't scan for channels |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | (well, it does for dvb channels, but that's another thing altogether) |
| [18:46:00] | niktaris: | xris, oh! so how do I tune in the channels? |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | niktaris: Just enter the channel number ? |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | 15<ENTER> works for me |
| [18:54:00] | niktaris: | I need a guide grabber? What would I use in Greece? |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | niktaris: That I wouldn't know :) |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | DVB stuff has some ability to get guide data over the air, but standard cable doesn't |
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| [18:57:00] | phon: | anyone is familiar with playing mpeg4 files with mplayer ? |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually my parents TV pulls guide+ data from the wire, wonder exactly how it does it |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | phon: Many are |
| [18:57:00] | phon: | i have a problem with the video and audio being out of sync |
| [18:58:00] | phon: | the video goes much slower |
| [18:58:00] | phon: | but it doesn't happen for every movie |
| [18:58:00] | phon: | i played the movie over network, and then locally too, but i got the same problem |
| [18:59:00] | phon: | anyone familiar with this problem ? :) |
| [18:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are some options you can feed mplayer to help keep it in sync. --framedrop , -autosync, and others |
| [18:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most of the time I've seen that happen it was because it wasn't encoded properly and had nothing to do with the player |
| [19:00:00] | phon: | i mostly happens with one cd movies |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | but check the mplayer man pages |
| [19:00:00] | phon: | but not all |
| [19:00:00] | phon: | and my cpu usage is only +-40% |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I pretty much never see it happen anymore |
| [19:01:00] | phon: | i have it with about 50% of my movies |
| [19:01:00] | phon: | i do play it through the PVR350 TV-out, could that affect mplayer ? |
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| [19:02:00] | slyboots: | Hey |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Certainly it could |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | phon: Using the PVR350 Mplayer patch ? |
| [19:02:00] | phon: | ehr, nope |
| [19:02:00] | phon: | is there a pvr350 mplayer patch ? cuz it sounds like something i need :) |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is/was one floatingt around that I saw a year+ ago. But I don't have a 350 so I never looked at it myself |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | check the ivtv mailing list |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | or in the #ivtv-dev channel |
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| [19:03:00] | phon: | there is a ivtv-deb channel! |
| [19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | yes. |
| [19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | there is. |
| [19:03:00] | slyboots: | Is there a list of all the dependancies required by the Mythplugin package? |
| [19:04:00] | slyboots: | my compile does not get any further than Mythaudio (cddecoder.h not found) So I figure I missing some package somewhere |
| [19:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythmusic you mean ? |
| [19:04:00] | slyboots: | *nods* |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | did you read the README |
| [19:05:00] | slyboots: | Yes.. |
| [19:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | in the mythmusic directory there is a README file that contains dependancies and optional libraries |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | every one of the plugins may have individual README files |
| [19:05:00] | slyboots: | Akc, I dident notice that :( |
| [19:05:00] | slyboots: | Sorry :D |
| [19:07:00] | Cardoe: | xris: mythweb is php5 compat? |
| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, in theory, it certainly is. |
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| [19:10:00] | Cardoe: | anyone can attest to ti? |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | I run mythweb on php5... |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc: | but don't shoot me if I missed a bug... |
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| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: any ideas on what I should call the gutted avidemux? |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | I'm leaning towards just mpeg2cut :) |
| [19:16:00] | Cardoe: | I like it |
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| [19:21:00] | ** slyboots runs make about 20 times, trying to find missing dependancies ** | |
| [19:22:00] | chkno: | Anyone know how to get time stretch factors greater than 2? |
| [19:22:00] | slyboots: | Smoke some blow |
| [19:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | chkno: Edit the code and increase the limit ? :) |
| [19:23:00] | ** slyboots should mention that the mythmusic requirments is wrong :D ** | |
| [19:23:00] | slyboots: | You need ID3 tag editor for MAD music |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | libid3tag should be all you need |
| [19:26:00] | ** slyboots nods, should be mentioned though :D ** | |
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| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | It is |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | read it again |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | "MAD – mp3 decoder library, and its libid3tag library" |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's the first line :) |
| [19:26:00] | slyboots: | Doh |
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| [19:28:00] | slyboots: | Sorry :D |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | no reason to apoloize :) |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | bah, damn fingers not typing what I'm thinking |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | what, you were thinking "damn right you should be sorry"? :) (just kidding) |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [19:33:00] | mirak: | tvtime crashes the computer |
| [19:33:00] | mirak: | I suspect the module |
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| [19:37:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: thx for the ebuilds |
| [19:38:00] | Cardoe: | MythTV stuff is my next clean up project |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | your welcome |
| [19:38:00] | Cardoe: | someone made a MESS of the ebuilds for 0.18 |
| [19:38:00] | JonXP: | Hrmmm |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | I'm also thinking some of those bug reports don't apply to this version. |
| [19:38:00] | JonXP: | Wait, I'm merging those right now. |
| [19:39:00] | JonXP: | And theyare a mess, you say? |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | the ones I just posted are a little cleaner |
| [19:40:00] | slyboots: | The builds for debain are terable |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | I'm quite sure that the filtering of -O3 to -O2 is not needed anymore |
| [19:40:00] | slyboots: | Outdated, and just confusing |
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| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | also the filtering of distcc isn't needed, I just compiled using distcc and it went fine... |
| [19:46:00] | Esotericisms: | problem: during make (after qmake) I got the following error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext" then I got the standard make errors and it stopped |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | you need x libs |
| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | xlibs-dev usually is the package iirc |
| [19:51:00] | ** slyboots cant get mythphone to work, keeps crying that "festival.h" can not be found ** | |
| [19:51:00] | slyboots: | and yes, Festival and Festival-dev is installed |
| [19:52:00] | kormoc: | do you have festival.h? |
| [19:52:00] | kormoc: | did you pass it via the ./configure script the path to it? :P |
| [19:52:00] | slyboots: | Well Im sure thats part of Festival/festival-dev |
| [19:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | slyboots make sure the festival include dir is in your include path |
| [19:52:00] | slyboots: | debian does that all automagicly |
| [19:52:00] | riksta: | slyboots: check it |
| [19:52:00] | kormoc: | sure worked well for you, hasn't it? |
| [19:52:00] | slyboots: | Clearly :P |
| [19:52:00] | riksta: | kormoc++ |
| [19:52:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [19:53:00] | Esotericisms: | I already have xlibs, kormoc |
| [19:54:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, do you have xlibs-dev? cause xlibs by itself doesn't provide that lib... |
| [19:54:00] | Esotericisms: | yes I have xlibs-dev |
| [19:54:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, run ldconfig |
| [19:54:00] | kormoc: | then try again |
| [19:54:00] | Esotericisms: | done ... retrying now |
| [19:55:00] | Esotericisms: | failed |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | what distro? |
| [19:55:00] | Esotericisms: | debian |
| [19:55:00] | Esotericisms: | sarge (unstable) |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | ldconfig -p |grep Xext |
| [19:59:00] | slyboots: | What do you mean "check if festival is in the include path" |
| [19:59:00] | Esotericisms: | libXext.so.6 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 |
| [19:59:00] | slyboots: | I dont quite understand what you mean by that |
| [19:59:00] | Esotericisms: | and then the next one is the same without the #6 |
| [20:00:00] | rpete: | Esotericisms, does a -L/usr/X11R6/lib appear in the command? |
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| [20:00:00] | Esotericisms: | rpete, appear in what command? |
| [20:01:00] | rpete: | the one that is failing with cannot find -lXext |
| [20:02:00] | Esotericisms: | I guess I am not understanding what you are asking me |
| [20:03:00] | ** rpete doesn't really have the energy to pursue this ** | |
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| [20:04:00] | rpete: | make tells you what it's running, at some point the command it ran failed with linker not finding -lXext. That command requires a -L/usr/X11R6/lib option to work |
| [20:04:00] | Esotericisms: | I get what you are getting at now ... sorry |
| [20:04:00] | Esotericisms: | not that I can see it doesn't |
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| [20:06:00] | kormoc: | you'll need to reconfigure and add that libary path to ./configure |
| [20:06:00] | Esotericisms: | alright ... thanks I will let you know how it goes |
| [20:07:00] | rpete: | usually configure should find that on its own, wonder why it's not |
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| [20:10:00] | Esotericisms: | I think it is because I boched something earlier |
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| [20:12:00] | Esotericisms: | which x windows do you all recommend to use with myth? |
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| [20:13:00] | Chacabaou: | Esotericisms: X.org works fine for me. :) |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | xorg is grand |
| [20:17:00] | rpete: | everybody's moved to it I guess |
| [20:17:00] | slyboots: | I havent :P |
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| [20:26:00] | chkno: | GreyFoxx: Thank you. The 2 is hardcoded in libs/libmythtv/tv_play.cpp. Up to 3 works great, but myth has playback issues when pushed past 3.. |
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| [20:29:00] | chkno: | There's a very sharp distinction. 3x playes perfectly, 3.05x plays at about 2fps with gaps in the audio. |
| [20:29:00] | kormoc: | it depends on one's processor |
| [20:30:00] | slyboots: | Hmm.. fun |
| [20:30:00] | slyboots: | For some odd reason, the plugings have all been installed in /usr/local/... |
| [20:31:00] | slyboots: | But Myth keeps looking for them in /usr/.. |
| [20:32:00] | slyboots: | Is there a way to tell where myth thinks it should look for all its files? |
| [20:32:00] | chkno: | I don't think I'm running out of CPU. 3x playback only utilizes 65% of one processor. |
| [20:33:00] | slyboots: | Anyone any idea? Im kind of screwed on this right now :( |
| [20:35:00] | jams: | slyboots, change the prefix on mythtv to /usr/local |
| [20:35:00] | jams: | and recompile |
| [20:35:00] | slyboots: | the entire program? |
| [20:35:00] | jams: | or change the plugins to /usr and recompile |
| [20:35:00] | jams: | i guess let me ask..how did you install it? |
| [20:35:00] | slyboots: | I compiled it from source, it placed it in /usr/local/,,, |
| [20:36:00] | slyboots: | yet it keeps looking at /usr/.. for some baffling reason |
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| [20:36:00] | beavis: | something duplicates every item in the recordings list here. did anyone see something like this before? |
| [20:36:00] | jams: | slyboots, did youhave myth installed before? |
| [20:36:00] | slyboots: | No |
| [20:37:00] | jams: | ebuild ? |
| [20:37:00] | slyboots: | Wait, Yes, I used that stupid fecking Debian package |
| [20:37:00] | slyboots: | But I removed it again |
| [20:37:00] | slyboots: | (it didnet work right and was outdated |
| [20:37:00] | ** kormoc hopes slyboots isn't running gentoo if he installed a debian package... ** | |
| [20:37:00] | jams: | just clean out /usr/myth /usr/lib/libmyth |
| [20:37:00] | slyboots: | No such folder |
| [20:37:00] | beavis: | now it's starting to record something again and it's twice there |
| [20:37:00] | jams: | and /usr/bin/myth* |
| [20:37:00] | beavis: | /usr/bin/myth* |
| [20:38:00] | beavis: | /usr/bin/libmyth* |
| [20:38:00] | slyboots: | None of those exist |
| [20:38:00] | beavis: | /usr/lib/libmyth* |
| [20:38:00] | beavis: | locate -i myth |
| [20:39:00] | slyboots: | /usr/lib/libmyth does |
| [20:39:00] | oneo: | anyone here use torrentocracy? |
| [20:41:00] | ** slyboots waits for his machine to update ** | |
| [20:42:00] | tuxristo: | xris , you around? |
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| [20:45:00] | Chacabaou: | Has it ever been discussed if the 'channel change buffer warnings' should also appear when leaving LiveTV? I sometimes quit LiveTV accidental and lose my whole buffer, that should be avoidable. |
| [20:46:00] | slyboots: | Right, Thats every mention of Myth gone (again) |
| [20:46:00] | slyboots: | Now I just compile the source again? |
| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chacabaou: For some reason I thought that was alrady in there |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | But since I A: Never use livetv, or B: would never use that particular option I could easily be wrong |
| [20:53:00] | Chacabaou: | GreyFoxx: Me too, but obviously it is not. Except my buffer simply to small to be worth such a warning. |
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| [21:00:00] | Chacabaou: | GreyFoxx: Mmmh...also tried it with 4 minutes of buffered LiveTV...no warning came up. |
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| [21:08:00] | defaultro: | hi GreyFoxx |
| [21:09:00] | defaultro: | heard that .18.1 is coming out next week |
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| [21:20:00] | maddhaggis: | defaultro: Hello Again |
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| [21:23:00] | slyboots: | Crud.. Another new error *sigh* |
| [21:23:00] | slyboots: | mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [21:24:00] | levon: | slyboots, run ldconfig after your installation or (if you installed on a non-system-wide-prefix), include the path to the libraries into your LD_LIBRARY_CONF env var. |
| [21:24:00] | ** slyboots tugs his hair out :D ** | |
| [21:25:00] | slyboots: | ldconfig didnet help, I've tried that already |
| [21:25:00] | kormoc: | slyboots, did you add /usr/local/lib to your ldconfig config file? |
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| [21:27:00] | slyboots: | that fixed it, :( |
| [21:27:00] | slyboots: | heh |
| [21:27:00] | slyboots: | *laughs* |
| [21:27:00] | slyboots: | SQL just took a shitfit |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | someone say something to/about me? |
| [21:31:00] | slyboots: | Nah, Just me cursing SQL |
| [21:32:00] | slyboots: | *Christ* |
| [21:33:00] | slyboots: | Just spams the rather vauge error message: |
| [21:33:00] | slyboots: | 2005-05–10 21:31:31.744 Unable to connect to database! |
| [21:33:00] | slyboots: | 2005-05–10 21:31:31.744 No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
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| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | connect by hand? |
| [21:34:00] | slyboots: | ? I can connect to the SQL server via the normal SQL tools if thats what you mean |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | as user mythtv? |
| [21:35:00] | slyboots: | Yup |
| [21:35:00] | kormoc: | recompile qt? |
| [21:35:00] | slyboots: | Can also access the mythconvery table |
| [21:35:00] | slyboots: | o.O What, That'll take days! |
| [21:36:00] | kormoc: | nah |
| [21:36:00] | slyboots: | Besides, it was working before, I dotns ee what would cause it to stop |
| [21:37:00] | kormoc: | Estimated build time for qt-3.3.4: 29 minutes. |
| [21:37:00] | kormoc: | not that long :) |
| [21:37:00] | slyboots: | Ah ffs, I think I see whats wrong |
| [21:38:00] | slyboots: | Was checking the system logs, and the package libqt3c102-mt-mysql did not get installed correctly, (Installed but not configured) |
| [21:39:00] | slyboots: | I think Im going to go insane :P |
| [21:39:00] | xris: | tuxristo: you were looking for me? |
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| [21:43:00] | tuxristo: | ya |
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| [21:43:00] | tuxristo: | you reported a bug with making preview images |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | I did |
| [21:44:00] | tuxristo: | did you do a make distclean? |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | I don't compile from source. build my own rpm's, which destroys the build tree every time before compiling. |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | (cleaner than a distclean) |
| [21:45:00] | tuxristo: | hmm |
| [21:45:00] | slyboots: | Okay, Now to make the plugins.. again |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | tuxristo: unless ccache f'd up. |
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| [21:47:00] | tuxristo: | i am compiling from source right now to see if i can reproduce it with current cvs, some code went in on the 4th of may that improves the way previews are made, i last tested that code with cvs from april 20th and it worked fine |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | mine's from may 6 |
| [21:50:00] | sunilonln: | for those of you that have a "new" PVR-150, how do you have sound set up? |
| [21:53:00] | xris: | sunilonln: tuner type 47, svideo, line-in audio |
| [21:53:00] | xris: | ivtv 0.3.2y is the most recent driver that works. |
| [21:54:00] | sunilonln: | hmm |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | (there are issues with line-in sound and the pvr-150 mce in newer versions of the driver) |
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| [21:56:00] | sunilonln: | i'm running 0.3.4 with tuner type 50 and coax in |
| [21:57:00] | sunilonln: | the problem is that when i watch tv, the sound isn't clean and the frontend hangs when i try to change the channel |
| [21:57:00] | sunilonln: | if i start the frontend w/o access /dev/dsp, i can change channels just fine |
| [21:57:00] | sunilonln: | and everything is smooth |
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| [21:59:00] | slyboots: | I dont understand why my machine lags so bad when you try to change the channel |
| [21:59:00] | slyboots: | (Where the overlay fades in, I think because this card does not support Overlay for some bizare reason) |
| [22:00:00] | kormoc: | it deletes the recorded channel content and starts a new stream. |
| [22:00:00] | kormoc: | slyboots, live tv in myth isn't so live... |
| [22:00:00] | slyboots: | I know, its always recording |
| [22:00:00] | kormoc: | ya, so when you switch channels |
| [22:00:00] | slyboots: | But just brining up the overhead menu lags the machine to death |
| [22:00:00] | slyboots: | (Saying that I need to figure out how to get this fecking TV card to work first) |
| [22:01:00] | kormoc: | ahh, that lags out my 2.4 ghz p4 with a nvidia 5800 in it for a few seconds. it's tough on a box. |
| [22:01:00] | slyboots: | Changing the channel? |
| [22:02:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [22:02:00] | slyboots: | Sucky :P |
| [22:03:00] | slyboots: | yay! the plugins are working |
| [22:03:00] | slyboots: | I think |
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| [22:03:00] | Servo888: | Who provides drivers for the wintv pvr 150 low profile? |
| [22:04:00] | sunilonln: | ivtv |
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| [22:04:00] | topping: | Servo888: http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ |
| [22:05:00] | Esotericisms: | topping, you need that to get certain wintv cards to work with myth don't you |
| [22:05:00] | topping: | anyone recognize "Decoder error. DecoderMAD: Failed to open input. Error 5." when trying to play a CD? |
| [22:05:00] | topping: | Esotericisms: it's the kernel driver for the 150 |
| [22:05:00] | slyboots: | Hm.. Where is "MythGame"? |
| [22:05:00] | Esotericisms: | ah |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | google knows |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | ;) |
| [22:06:00] | slyboots: | :D |
| [22:06:00] | slyboots: | lol |
| [22:06:00] | Esotericisms: | all I know is that I was looking in a pvr database and I know people have gotten the 'wintv go' card to work with myth |
| [22:06:00] | topping: | oh, the go cards suck IIRC |
| [22:07:00] | Esotericisms: | well the other ones were out of my price range atm |
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| [22:07:00] | topping: | the 150 is about $50 without the remote i think |
| [22:07:00] | sunilonln: | wintv go uses bttv: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#capture |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | software capturing, sucky, cpu hoggy. |
| [22:07:00] | topping: | hoggy baddy |
| [22:07:00] | sunilonln: | i bought a 150 w/ remote for $70 last week |
| [22:08:00] | Servo888: | I'm thinking about getting a 150... 70 bucks is still stretching it. for me =\. Maybe if I can find it with a rebate. |
| [22:08:00] | slyboots: | now I just need to get my tv card to work lol.. |
| [22:08:00] | topping: | Servo888: it's cheaper without the remote |
| [22:08:00] | sunilonln: | slyboots: i feel for you, i was there yesterday |
| [22:09:00] | sunilonln: | now I just need to get my tv card to work _properly_ |
| [22:09:00] | slyboots: | The card is fully supported by Myth and linux, but I think something is wrong with the card itself |
| [22:09:00] | topping: | Servo888: but $70 is about as low as it goes with the remote |
| [22:09:00] | Esotericisms: | I might buy me the 150 ... how are is it to change cards once myth is install? |
| [22:09:00] | Servo888: | topping, yah but I also need the low profile one, and I've yet to see one with out a remote |
| [22:09:00] | Esotericisms: | installed* |
| [22:09:00] | topping: | ahh |
| [22:09:00] | sunilonln: | low profile doesn't have a remote |
| [22:09:00] | Servo888: | Still costs 77 bucks =-\ |
| [22:10:00] | sunilonln: | the only low profilie one is the 'WinTV-PVR150MCE Low Profile', and mce cards don't have remotes since xpmce comes with one |
| [22:10:00] | Servo888: | Ah ok. |
| [22:10:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone know if you can change capture cards easily once myth is installed? |
| [22:10:00] | Servo888: | Esotericisms, yes |
| [22:10:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
| [22:10:00] | Servo888: | Esotericisms, just edit the capture portion in myth-config |
| [22:11:00] | Esotericisms: | cool |
| [22:11:00] | Servo888: | Hell I don't even need a remote =-). lirc + generic remote = cheap pc control. |
| [22:12:00] | sunilonln: | yeah, i just wanted a fast solution |
| [22:12:00] | topping: | mythtv playing alien sex fiend. classic. |
| [22:12:00] | Esotericisms: | lirc? |
| [22:12:00] | sunilonln: | and 150's ir port seemed to be well supported |
| [22:12:00] | sunilonln: | does anyone have experience with lvm that they want to try to help me set up a partition correctly? |
| [22:13:00] | Servo888: | Esotericisms, http://www.lirc.org/ |
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| [22:13:00] | sunilonln: | i tried doing it, but i think i did it wrong |
| [22:13:00] | sunilonln: | since mythtv isn't showing the right amount in disk space available |
| [22:13:00] | Servo888: | software raid? *runs away* |
| [22:14:00] | sunilonln: | all i need to do is span over two disks |
| [22:14:00] | sunilonln: | no mirrorring or anything |
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| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | sunilonln, try lvm? |
| [22:15:00] | sunilonln: | yeah |
| [22:15:00] | sunilonln: | see above |
| [22:15:00] | sunilonln: | i need some help configuring it |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | ahh, missed that. |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | just saw the software raid comment :P |
| [22:16:00] | sunilonln: | k |
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| [22:17:00] | slyboots: | Anyone know how you can force the driver that bttv uses? |
| [22:17:00] | sunilonln: | set it up in modprobe |
| [22:17:00] | Esotericisms: | so do I need to be in x windows to install myth or is command line without x windows running ok? |
| [22:17:00] | slyboots: | hmm |
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| [22:18:00] | mchou: | xris: you figure out the script yet? |
| [22:18:00] | xris: | mchou: yeah, but it's incomplete for me. |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | incomplete in what sense? |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/hdtvscan2dd.pl.txt |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | I get dvb errors after running it. |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | so either something is different with the OTA stuff, or something has changed since you designed it. |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | lol. I think you are missing a very significant "join" in that script. |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | oh? |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | I'm not doing any joining |
| [22:20:00] | slyboots: | If I use modprobe will those changes take instant effect? |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | grep join in my script :) |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | yeah, I saw it. |
| [22:20:00] | slyboots: | I dont have to like.. reboot or anything crap like that ? |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | but I thought that it was just how you were doing that last query. |
| [22:20:00] | kormoc: | slyboots, depends on what you did. |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | last query?? |
| [22:21:00] | sunilonln: | slyboots: run depmod -a and then reboot |
| [22:21:00] | sunilonln: | at least that's what i do |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | line #, pls? |
| [22:21:00] | slyboots: | Changed the driver bttv used |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | mchou: dunno, I'm looking at it in a web browser. |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | # Copy some required info from the scan list to the dd list |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | sunilonln, depmod is run on boot and iirc on modules_install in the kernel dir. |
| [22:21:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [22:21:00] | sunilonln: | so i was right? |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | slyboots, you mean like card #? |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | paste "last query" then. |
| [22:21:00] | slyboots: | Yes kormoc |
| [22:22:00] | slyboots: | modprobe bttv card=1 type=1 |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | sunilonln, so you actually didn't have to run it by hand |
| [22:22:00] | xris: | mchou: search for that comment |
| [22:22:00] | sunilonln: | ic |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | slyboots, yeah, no booting |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | *rebooting |
| [22:22:00] | sunilonln: | good to know |
| [22:22:00] | slyboots: | Just depmod -a? |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | nah |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | xris: what comment are you referring to? |
| [22:22:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone know where the qt3/bin directory is in a debian sarge install? |
| [22:22:00] | xris: | scroll up |
| [22:22:00] | slyboots: | What? nothing at all then? |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | you only run depmod when you install or remove a module |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | and the kernel does it for ya in make modules_install |
| [22:23:00] | slyboots: | So I just run modprobe? |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | when you're just dealing with modprobe, you don't need to deal with the deps, aye |
| [22:23:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [22:23:00] | slyboots: | Sweet |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | xris: prior to that step you need to do a join..... |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | now, a modprobe won't survive a reboot :) |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | against what? oh, hmm, looks like I missed updating freqid, too. |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | notice my script also makes reference to xmltvid field :) |
| [22:24:00] | slyboots: | Well, I'll get it working first :D |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | though your example only sets mplexid, serviceid, atscsrcid... which is what I did |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | yes. I'm making updates based on a different field. |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | look at my code, it works differently than yours. |
| [22:25:00] | mchou: | xris: believe me. Mine still works. Yours doesnt :) |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | no need to update for a specific xmltv id, it's just importing based on matching channums (after some tweaking) |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | mchou: yours does NOT work. I tested it. |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | same problems as mine has. |
| [22:26:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone install myth on debian in here? |
| [22:26:00] | xris: | as far as I see in your script, your call to join just helps you match up which channels to update. I have another way (imho better) around that. |
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| [22:27:00] | Esotericisms: | on the HOWTO page 4 ... under distribution specific notes ... do I need to do the debian section with apt-get source mythtv? |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | heck, I wrote that whole update thing into a single query before I realized that mysql 3 doesn't support multi-table updates. |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | xris: no, your way is not foolproof. callsign names are very differnt, and not only by underscores. |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | I'm not replacing underscores in callsigns. |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | I don't do ANYTHING with callsigns. |
| [22:28:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone install myth on debian in here? |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: most of the devs use ubuntu.. |
| [22:28:00] | slyboots: | Hmm, this is not looking good |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: and knopmyth is based on debian |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | xris: lol. just gimme channel, dvb_multiplex, and videosource tables. |
| [22:29:00] | xris: | mchou: that's not the problem. all of that stuff updates correctly. |
| [22:29:00] | xris: | http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/129860 |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | does the exact same thing your script does. |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | xris: I need to see those tables in order to diagnose the problem..... |
| [22:30:00] | beavis: | is it possible to use poweroff to shutdown a FE/BE combination? |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | well at the moment they wouldn't do you any good — I had to revert my db to get a working system. |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | might have time tonight to go through it again. |
| [22:31:00] | mchou: | from reading your script the only thing it doesnt do is the join and the xmltvid...... |
| [22:31:00] | mchou: | which are key steps. |
| [22:32:00] | xris: | your join has nothing to do with sql, though. it's just how you figure out which fields need to be updated. |
| [22:32:00] | xris: | I use a different way. |
| [22:32:00] | xris: | the same number of fields get updated my way, with the same data. |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | your way isnt much different. all you do is a inline replace of the underscore in channum. |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | yes. |
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| [22:33:00] | xris: | and update all matching rows. no need for xmltvid. |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | there is where you run into serious trouble :) |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | but I don't. |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | all the underscore thing does is match channel 4_1 (dd) up with 41 (scan) |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | cause there might be multiple dd sources..... |
| [22:34:00] | tuxristo: | xris, just compiled current cvs from source and it doesn't hang generating previews using the new method... |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | tuxristo: I'll try it again tonight. |
| [22:34:00] | tuxristo: | k |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | mchou: read the upper code. |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | it won't run into that problem. |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | if there are multiple possible dd sources, it'll error out. |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | although I think I did find an error. |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | yup. replacing _ in the wrong call |
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| [22:36:00] | Hondo: | anyone using a panny ct-34wx50 with a audio authority transcoder. I'm looking for a modeline that works |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | it was finding the right data, but the updates weren't actually matching anything (I was too lazy/busy/tired last night to add error checking) |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | I haven't done perl dbi stuff in so long I've forgotten the calls to pull up "number of rows changed", etc — too lazy to look them up last night. |
| [22:38:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: ping |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | there, that's better. will have to test it again tonight. |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | mchou: anyway, I did some trickery to figure out which listing sources are which, so the user doesn't have to answer any questions about that. |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | the OTA one has lineupid=NULL |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | the dd one has a lineup ID that isn't /^DI(TV|SH)/ |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | I'll eventually add a query for what to do if there are multiples. |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | I saw. but keep in mind ppl will have OTA, Cable, and Satellite sources..... |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | /^DI(TV|SH)/ excludes sat |
| [22:40:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: If that replex -> mpeg2cut way works for DVB, wouldn't it be possible (and quite easy) to use that in nuvexport until mpeg2cut gets rewritten? DVB-recordings probably could be detected with `file`. |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | Chacabaou: actually nuvinfo pulls in the stream type, too |
| [22:40:00] | slyboots: | Well, I sort of got a picture on xawtv, but it looks pretty fugged up |
| [22:40:00] | slyboots: | there is 4 vertical bars of "static" running down the picture |
| [22:41:00] | slyboots: | Any idea what might cause taht? |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | bad input |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | bad cable quality |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | mchou: one thing I do have trouble with is a pink bar in my hdtv signal.. ever seen that? |
| [22:41:00] | slyboots: | Hmm.. I'll try it on the main arieal for the house |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | (oh, and hdtv plays fine on my athlon 1900 if I `nice -n0`) |
| [22:41:00] | sunilonln: | newbie question: what is the command to remove a directory? |
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| [22:41:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: If I'm right, this solution would only take some more lines, wouldn't it? |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | nope. probably a videocard driver issue. |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | sunilonln, rmdir or rm -rf |
| [22:41:00] | sunilonln: | k |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | Chacabaou: dunno what solution you're talking about.. just responded to the one liner. |
| [22:42:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ticket/9 |
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| [22:46:00] | xris: | Chacabaou: ah. well, that's between you and Beirdo, then. the mpeg2cut stuff is a little over my head, since I only just got an mpeg encoder card hooked up last weekend. |
| [22:46:00] | Esotericisms: | well not hick ups so far on my mythtv compilation |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | although I do now also have an air2pc so I'll be bugging him to get mpeg TS stuff hooked up. |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | it might be as easy has getting a script to automatically pull the PS out of the TS... |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | esp. since neither transcode nor ffmpeg will encode TS streams |
| [22:47:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Could you provide Beirdo some DVB streams for solving that issue? |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | yeah. he has a couple, too, I think. just not enough. |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | they're big, though. 600M for a 5 minute recording. |
| [22:48:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Err...to my experience, nuvexport (ffmpeg) works with TS. |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | ah. didn't work for me. color was off, and I got that vertical sync always-scrolling-upward effect. |
| [22:48:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Half a minute should be enough to check for av offsets. |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | might have had something to do with HD and not TS, though. |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | the file was 1080i |
| [22:49:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Anyways, I accepted that transcoding mpeg2 is not worth the cpu time. ;) |
| [22:49:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Well, for me its low definition only. |
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| [22:51:00] | xris: | Chacabaou: figured. in my case, it's all HD. |
| [22:53:00] | Esotericisms: | how long does it take to make myth? |
| [22:53:00] | Chacabaou: | Esotericisms: Depends on your ccache. ;) |
| [22:54:00] | Esotericisms: | at this time (soon to be upgrade) 256MB RAM, 512 SWAP, 1.8 GHz AMD Athlon processor |
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| [22:55:00] | dhofstra: | 1/2 hr or so |
| [22:55:00] | Esotericisms: | sounds good to me |
| [22:55:00] | dhofstra: | then you get to make the plugins he he |
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| [23:04:00] | CyberKnet: | anyone here running voip and use a DID provider that has LNP? |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | aren't you kinda in the wrong place for that, CyberKnet :) |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | slePP: talk to this fool :) |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: nope, sure am not =) |
| [23:06:00] | defaultro: | mchou? |
| [23:06:00] | sunilonln: | hey, i am setting up lvm with http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.3 , but when trying to mount it is saying mount point does not exist |
| [23:06:00] | sunilonln: | do i need to create /var/music before mounting? |
| [23:06:00] | CyberKnet: | asked in #asterisk a while back, not comitting the cardinal sin of repeating a question =) |
| [23:07:00] | sunilonln: | CyberKnet: try posting in the dslreports voip forum |
| [23:15:00] | sunilonln: | no ideas for my mounting error? |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | hey defaultro , what's up? |
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| [23:23:00] | Esotericisms: | alright I just did make install ... so I need to be in my x windows to continue right? |
| [23:23:00] | kormoc: | what did you make install of? |
| [23:23:00] | Esotericisms: | mythtv |
| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | then yes, you would |
| [23:24:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [23:25:00] | Esotericisms: | shit I don't think my "xdm" is working ... |
| [23:25:00] | Esotericisms: | not to troubleshoot that |
| [23:25:00] | Esotericisms: | now* |
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| [23:33:00] | sunilonln: | another newbie question: how do you find a folder? |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | locate is usually the tool of choice |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | but you have to run locate -u every so often to update it's database |
| [23:33:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
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| [23:44:00] | maddhaggis: | defaultro: you there? |
| [23:45:00] | maddhaggis: | dhofstra: hello |
| [23:46:00] | maddhaggis: | defaultro told me to talk to you about some issues I'm having regarding the HD-3000 |
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| [23:54:00] | awb4422: | I'm using ubuntu and noticed that ffmpeg isn't compiled with xvid... is there a way to enable it without having to compile from source? |
| [23:58:00] | ethics: | awb4422, : rareswaves.org try here |
| [23:59:00] | ethics: | they have the codecs for vid stuff i think |
| [23:59:00] | awb4422: | 404 |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | www.? |
| [23:59:00] | ethics: | hmm sec i try too |
| [23:59:00] | ethics: | prolly |
| [23:59:00] | ethics: | been a while |
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