| Saturday, May 7th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | pookSter: | bout time somebody put those FCC in their place don't u think? |
| [00:00:00] | leftyfb: | nope ... didn't know exactly how .. but the point is ... the drive is mounted IN the path that IS set in the music settings .. should'nt it find it? |
| [00:00:00] | j-rod: | xris, nah, if I get it, we'd try to move somewhere near Kirkland |
| [00:01:00] | Tommck: | pookSter – now they'll just lobby congress to pass the law |
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| [00:01:00] | j-rod: | b'ham would only be a maybe if I went consultant again |
| [00:02:00] | JeepJerk: | so is mythtranscode --showprogress supposed to do something>? |
| [00:02:00] | loudawg: | leftyfb: I guess it would. But it's not hard to set the path, just go to your music settings. But also, have you gone to "search for new music?" |
| [00:02:00] | leftyfb: | yeah, i've searched for new music |
| [00:03:00] | pookSter: | Well, everyone else can read about the failed broadcast flag here...www.news.com |
| [00:03:00] | loudawg: | run your frontend from the command prompt, and see if anything weird shows up regarding mythmusic, especially anything regarding the database |
| [00:04:00] | loudawg: | I actually had this problem before, because either I, or something else deleted a music table from the database. If this is the case, then it's easy to add it again |
| [00:04:00] | leftyfb: | what i just tried now was to mount the drive directly as /mnt/media/Music ... where the music was set before and it found music from ... now with the drive mount there it doesn't find any music |
| [00:04:00] | leftyfb: | hm |
| [00:04:00] | leftyfb: | i wonder though... |
| [00:04:00] | Tommck: | I'm having trouble compiling MythGallery... it's missing the library "Xmu" ? |
| [00:04:00] | leftyfb: | btw .. this is an ipod i'm trying to get to work on an xbox :) |
| [00:05:00] | JeepJerk: | I don't think that works |
| [00:05:00] | JeepJerk: | lefty |
| [00:05:00] | leftyfb: | no reason why it shouldn't |
| [00:05:00] | leftyfb: | it's just linux running .. the ipod is seen as a usb drive .. i can see the files just fine |
| [00:06:00] | JeepJerk: | lefty: I don't have one but I asked someone about it and they said that you couldn't access the songs you put on with itunes when you mounted it as a drive |
| [00:06:00] | leftyfb: | heh |
| [00:06:00] | leftyfb: | first of all |
| [00:06:00] | JeepJerk: | oh well then good |
| [00:06:00] | leftyfb: | I don't use itunes |
| [00:06:00] | leftyfb: | and I can certainly access and play the music on the ipod just fine on any pc I mount it on |
| [00:07:00] | leftyfb: | it's just a hidding folder |
| [00:07:00] | leftyfb: | hidden* |
| [00:07:00] | JeepJerk: | he must've just not known how to use his ipod |
| [00:07:00] | leftyfb: | or how to make hidden files show in windows :) |
| [00:07:00] | JeepJerk: | cause thats really hard :P |
| [00:07:00] | leftyfb: | didn't say it was |
| [00:08:00] | leftyfb: | doesn't mean everyone that owns an ipod knows how to do it |
| [00:08:00] | JeepJerk: | sucks for him |
| [00:08:00] | JeepJerk: | any idea if mythtranscode --showprogress is supposed to do something>? |
| [00:09:00] | leftyfb: | i just to be able to say i can play the music on my ipod using my xbox :) |
| [00:09:00] | JeepJerk: | well plus all the required ones |
| [00:09:00] | leftyfb: | no reason it can't be done |
| [00:09:00] | JeepJerk: | you put a usb port on one of your controllers? |
| [00:10:00] | Tommck: | anyone know why I'm missing the Xmu library that seems to be part of XFree86? |
| [00:10:00] | leftyfb: | well, I do have many adapters for that way .. but no |
| [00:11:00] | leftyfb: | i'll show you in a few |
| [00:12:00] | leftyfb: | is there a file i can edit to add the music path or does it need to be done through myth? |
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| [00:14:00] | JeepJerk: | its in the db |
| [00:14:00] | JeepJerk: | so you can do mysql client or myth |
| [00:15:00] | leftyfb: | how do you add using myth? comma seperated? |
| [00:16:00] | JeepJerk: | you can only have one folder per host |
| [00:16:00] | leftyfb: | :/ |
| [00:16:00] | j-rod: | anyone know where mp4ff_int_types.h comes from? |
| [00:16:00] | JeepJerk: | but its recursive |
| [00:16:00] | JeepJerk: | so symlink it |
| [00:16:00] | leftyfb: | i've done that |
| [00:16:00] | leftyfb: | didn't find the music on it |
| [00:16:00] | JeepJerk: | thats all I do |
| [00:16:00] | JeepJerk: | and it works |
| [00:16:00] | JeepJerk: | did you rescan? |
| [00:17:00] | stoffel: | j-rod: afaik it's the aac stuff, libmp4-dev maybe |
| [00:17:00] | leftyfb: | multiple times |
| [00:17:00] | leftyfb: | hold on, trying a few things |
| [00:17:00] | stoffel: | err or maybe libfaad2-dev? |
| [00:18:00] | j-rod: | unfortunately, faad2-devel is already installed... |
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| [00:19:00] | j-rod: | hm, faad2-devel includes mp4ff.h, but no mp4ff_int_types.h |
| [00:20:00] | j-rod: | (full error line is: /usr/include/mp4ff.h:35:29: mp4ff_int_types.h: No such file or directory) |
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| [00:20:00] | leftyfb: | JeepJerk |
| [00:20:00] | leftyfb: | http://xbox.cyberfuturism.com/leftyfbclearcase/DSCN1020 |
| [00:21:00] | stoffel: | j-rod: i just disabled aac |
| [00:21:00] | leftyfb: | http://xbox.cyberfuturism.com/leftyfbclearcase/Set158_04 ... there's the ipod plugged into it |
| [00:21:00] | j-rod: | bummer, I want aac... :) |
| [00:21:00] | j-rod: | ah, wait, might be in faac-devel... |
| [00:22:00] | j-rod: | nope |
| [00:22:00] | j-rod: | damn |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | thats a pretty sic looking xbox |
| [00:23:00] | leftyfb: | go to the first page |
| [00:24:00] | j-rod: | aha, I think I have the fix... yup, I do |
| [00:24:00] | leftyfb: | http://xbox.cyberfuturism.com/leftyfbclearcase?page=1 |
| [00:24:00] | j-rod: | newest faad2-devel apt is picking up doesn't have the mp4 stuff |
| [00:24:00] | JeepJerk: | where'd you get that? |
| [00:24:00] | j-rod: | (newest is stock FC3 package) |
| [00:24:00] | leftyfb: | i built it |
| [00:24:00] | j-rod: | backed off to latest ATrpms version, it does have it |
| [00:24:00] | leftyfb: | every xbox on that site was done by me |
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| [00:25:00] | leftyfb: | hm |
| [00:25:00] | leftyfb: | ok |
| [00:25:00] | leftyfb: | technically I just accomplished my goal |
| [00:25:00] | JeepJerk: | thats hot |
| [00:26:00] | leftyfb: | i'm now playing music from my ipod on my xbox |
| [00:26:00] | JeepJerk: | os how'd you mond the plastic like that? |
| [00:26:00] | leftyfb: | but had to do it using mplayer cmd-line |
| [00:26:00] | leftyfb: | oh, those parts i bought |
| [00:26:00] | leftyfb: | the clear top and the front panel |
| [00:26:00] | leftyfb: | I mounted the 2.5" tft screen in the top though ... had a guy custom make the "jewel" for it |
| [00:27:00] | JeepJerk: | looks slick |
| [00:27:00] | leftyfb: | i can use the xbox with only a power cable plugged in .. don't need video .... the tft screen works and I have an internal speaker mounted |
| [00:27:00] | leftyfb: | using applications like Xbox Media Center uses the LCD and outputs menu selections and track info |
| [00:29:00] | leftyfb: | so now i just need to get the myth frontend to be able to play the music ... no idea why it isn't |
| [00:29:00] | leftyfb: | doesn't have a problem with vfat or anything does it? |
| [00:30:00] | JeepJerk: | shouldn't be |
| [00:34:00] | JeepJerk: | I don't think 802.11b is up to streaming my recorded programs |
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| [00:44:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: you machined your own plastic? |
| [00:45:00] | leftyfb: | i had it made by a guy with a CNC machine |
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| [00:45:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: are you for real?? |
| [00:45:00] | leftyfb: | yeah, why? |
| [00:46:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: how much did this case set you back? |
| [00:46:00] | mchou: | just the plastic case..... |
| [00:46:00] | leftyfb: | the top was only $30 |
| [00:47:00] | leftyfb: | the front panel with modchip controls and LCD was $75 shipped |
| [00:47:00] | mchou: | wow, really? $35 for a one-off? |
| [00:47:00] | leftyfb: | ? |
| [00:48:00] | AndyCap: | and if you don't know someone with a cnc machine I guess there's always emachineshop. |
| [00:48:00] | leftyfb: | |
| [00:48:00] | leftyfb: | uh |
| [00:48:00] | leftyfb: | not mishehu |
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| [00:50:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: what sw did you use for the design? |
| [00:51:00] | leftyfb: | it's just a square inside a circle |
| [00:52:00] | leftyfb: | imputted directly into the CNC software that controls it |
| [00:52:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: how about those ridges? :) |
| [00:52:00] | leftyfb: | i don't know what it's called, i didn't do it ... i was too busy with other things while the other guy cut it |
| [00:52:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: pretty cool. |
| [00:53:00] | leftyfb: | got all the controls for the LCD/sound on the back of the xbox as well |
| [00:53:00] | leftyfb: | also a jack for headphones |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: you glued the lcd controller card to the plastic top? |
| [00:55:00] | leftyfb: | doublesided tape |
| [00:56:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: no holes for screws on the PCB? |
| [00:56:00] | leftyfb: | screw into what? a clear plastic top? |
| [00:56:00] | mchou: | leftyfb: yeah..... |
| [00:57:00] | leftyfb: | hm .. i don't get this .. the user can play the music from the mount from cmd line ... but myth won't see the files |
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| [00:58:00] | stoffel: | might be the search code doesn't follow symb. links? i've never tried that |
| [00:58:00] | leftyfb: | it's not a symlink |
| [00:59:00] | leftyfb: | the default dir for MCE is /mnt/media/Music ... i've put music in it and it plays fine ... but if i mount the usb drive to /mnt/media/Music .. myth doesn't see the files |
| [00:59:00] | leftyfb: | I tried symlinking subdir's in it before with no luck as well |
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| [01:10:00] | cneb: | hrm.. just installed 0.18 here and mythtv spits out a frontend=15,backend=14 error. `mythbackend --version` says its 0.18 and i have restarted it through init.d .. any suggestions? |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | reboot? |
| [01:12:00] | xris: | cneb: check /usr/local, too |
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| [01:12:00] | j-rod: | woohoo, 0.18.1-rc1 mythtv and mythplugins all built... |
| [01:12:00] | Skif: | grr |
| [01:12:00] | arrummzen_: | Do any of you know how to build QMYSQL3? |
| [01:13:00] | Skif: | It's so frustrating when somebody else has the exact same card I do, and his works and mine doesn't. :-P |
| [01:13:00] | ** Skif has a PVR-500, and gets nothing but static on both tuners :( ** | |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | j-rod: 18.1?? |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | yup |
| [01:14:00] | mchou: | Skif: what's the problem now? |
| [01:14:00] | ** j-rod has both a D292 and D492 PVR-500 in hand, both work perfectly ** | |
| [01:14:00] | Skif: | mchou: turns out there's a guy on the ivtv-devel list with the exact same card-- same tuners, everything-- as me, and his works fine. :( |
| [01:14:00] | mchou: | j-rod: is that avilable via cvs now? |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
| [01:14:00] | Skif: | j-rod: I have a D492 PVR-500, and can't make it work for love or money |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | just add a -r release-0-18-fixes to your checkout line |
| [01:15:00] | mfgalizi: | Does anyone want to try my control editor plugin? I'm looking for feedback! |
| [01:15:00] | ** Skif actually hasn't tried money yet, but doubts his computer will care :) ** | |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | j-rod: D492 works OK for ya? |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | yup, D492 works without a problem |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | j-rod: ok, will do. |
| [01:15:00] | ** xris wishes for svn revs.... ** | |
| [01:16:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [01:16:00] | xris: | ok, headed home. |
| [01:16:00] | Tommck: | mchou – you have a D492 too? |
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| [01:16:00] | Toast: | With a DVB card, does the Signal/Noise bar in the autoscan channel tuning setup only move off zero after a lock is acheaved? |
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| [01:16:00] | cortezdapimp: | hey everybody |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | Tommck: no, 2x150s. |
| [01:17:00] | Skif: | Tommck: I have a D492 I can't get anything but static from. |
| [01:17:00] | Tommck: | oh.. ok.. I have a D492.. it works fine for me |
| [01:17:00] | mchou: | Tommck: how is your D493 working? |
| [01:17:00] | Tommck: | it's good |
| [01:17:00] | Skif: | Tommck: there are no more frustrating words in the English language for me right now than "It works for me" :-\ |
| [01:17:00] | Tommck: | using s-video inputs |
| [01:17:00] | mchou: | what drivers you using for D492? |
| [01:17:00] | Tommck: | Skif – I agree |
| [01:17:00] | Tommck: | 0.3.2z |
| [01:18:00] | j-rod: | 0.3.3z was what I last tried myself |
| [01:18:00] | Skif: | Tommck: do your tuners work, or do you just use the S-video input? |
| [01:18:00] | Tommck: | 2, not 3 |
| [01:18:00] | Tommck: | Skif – never tried the tuners |
| [01:18:00] | Skif: | Drat, that's what's not working for me... the RCA inputs seem to work okay. |
| [01:18:00] | Tommck: | I was always going for s-video |
| [01:18:00] | j-rod: | and conversely, I've tried nothing but tuners |
| [01:18:00] | mchou: | hehe.... |
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| [01:19:00] | Tommck: | Skif – this blog posting has the settings I'm using: http://mymythsaga.blogspot.com/2005/04/false- . . . eat-1st.html |
| [01:19:00] | Skif: | I have tried 0.3.3x, and 0.3.4b with no love |
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| [01:19:00] | cortezdapimp: | mchou |
| [01:19:00] | Skif: | I suppose I might as well give 0.3.3z a try :) |
| [01:20:00] | cortezdapimp: | you have your 150's working fine, right? |
| [01:20:00] | Tommck: | Skif – I was using 0.3.2z, not 0.3.3z |
| [01:20:00] | j-rod: | I do |
| [01:20:00] | Skif: | Tommck: j-rod is using tuners, so I'll try his working version. :) |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: yup. |
| [01:21:00] | Tommck: | Skif – good point :) |
| [01:21:00] | cortezdapimp: | could you give me your /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv? |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | j-rod: you manage get m179 tuner to work (with 500)? |
| [01:21:00] | Skif: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [01:21:00] | Skif: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [01:21:00] | Skif: | alias char-major-81–1 ivtv |
| [01:21:00] | Skif: | options cx25840 no_black_magic=1 |
| [01:21:00] | Skif: | options ivtv ivtv_debug=1 |
| [01:22:00] | ** Skif will put stuff on pastbin if it's any larger than that ** | |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | haven't got around to playing with my m179 cards again yet |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | had to leave town for a few days this week |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: I have nothing related to ivtv in my modprobe.conf......only exception is "options ivtv tuner=50,50" |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | Skif, that's the same opts I've got |
| [01:23:00] | Skif: | j-rod: well, that's one thing I know I don't have wrong :) |
| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh word |
| [01:23:00] | ** Tommck is out of here ** | |
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| [01:23:00] | Skif: | in /etc/modules (loaded at boot time) I have tveeprom, cx25840, ivtv loaded in that order. |
| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | and are you loading the tveeprom and tuner modules from ivtv, or from the kernel? |
| [01:24:00] | Skif: | j-rod: well, that's the funny bit. |
| [01:24:00] | Skif: | When I just "modprobe ivtv", everything seems to load fine. Doesn't work, but loads fine. |
| [01:24:00] | cortezdapimp: | hey thats whats happening with me! |
| [01:24:00] | Skif: | When I try to modprobe them individually, the cx25840 module claims it can't load the exact same firmware it loads correctly when ivtv loads it. |
| [01:25:00] | Skif: | plus, I get all kinds of i2c errors. |
| [01:26:00] | j-rod: | odd... |
| [01:26:00] | j-rod: | not sure exactly what's up there |
| [01:26:00] | Skif: | that was more or less my reaction, yes. |
| [01:27:00] | mshields: | does anyone have captions/vbi working with an ivtv card? |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | mshields: lol. |
| [01:27:00] | Skif: | sigh, just loaded 0.3.3z, and I still get only static :( |
| [01:28:00] | mshields: | well it's an honest question |
| [01:28:00] | iggy: | mshields: the 250/350's should work okay |
| [01:28:00] | iggy: | the 150/500's don't work so well or at all |
| [01:29:00] | Skif: | okay, I see in dmesg output a lot of: |
| [01:29:00] | Skif: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found! |
| [01:29:00] | Skif: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found! |
| [01:29:00] | mshields: | hmm ok. i couldn't get anything to show with 0.2.0, so now i'm running 0.3.3y and still nothin |
| [01:29:00] | j-rod: | Skif, drop some log output on pastebin |
| [01:29:00] | Skif: | what does that mean? |
| [01:29:00] | Skif: | j-rod: will do, hang on a bit |
| [01:30:00] | mshields: | if it ought to work, i'll keep playing (pvr-350) |
| [01:31:00] | Skif: | j-rod: http://pastebin.com/280677 |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | Skif: what kernel you yousing? |
| [01:32:00] | mshields: | i have a lot less time to tinker with my mythtv box now that my wife's figured out how to use it |
| [01:32:00] | j-rod: | hm, line 7 is bad... |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | you using* |
| [01:32:00] | Skif: | So it is-- never seen that with any other ivtv version, either. |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | I agree with jrod. |
| [01:33:00] | Skif: | What should I do to force it to believe it's a 500 (or rather, 2x150)? |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | given that its treating the card as a 250, its loading some saa7115 stuff that isn't relevant for the 500 |
| [01:33:00] | Skif: | I was wondering where that was coming from. |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | options ivtv cardtype= some value I can't recall |
| [01:33:00] | mchou: | Skif: use the cardtype parameter...... |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | and its likely the saa7115 load causing the i2c errors you mentioned |
| [01:33:00] | mchou: | but it's off by 1. |
| [01:34:00] | mchou: | the index is wrong...... |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | mchou, haven't had time to look at that yet either... :( |
| [01:34:00] | iggy: | the i2c errors are usually from missing modules |
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| [01:34:00] | iggy: | 21 is msp3400, so it's pissed off that there's no msp since it thinks the thing is a 250 |
| [01:34:00] | Skif: | mchou: where is the cardtype documented |
| [01:34:00] | Skif: | ? |
| [01:34:00] | iggy: | modinfo ivtv |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | what iggy said. |
| [01:35:00] | Skif: | thanks kindly |
| [01:35:00] | xortch: | i used nuvexport to export the nuv and sql data for a program. how do i incorporate that file back into the database |
| [01:35:00] | xortch: | by program i mean tv recording |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | yum, Pacifico... |
| [01:38:00] | Skif: | argh |
| [01:38:00] | mchou: | iggy: what is 0x02 for i2c? (0x21->msp3400) |
| [01:38:00] | Skif: | I specifically said 'modprobe ivtv cardtype=6' and it still id'd as a 250! |
| [01:39:00] | mchou: | Skif: I told ya the index is off by 1. Try 5. |
| [01:39:00] | Skif: | mchou: er, so you did |
| [01:39:00] | ** Skif learns to read ** | |
| [01:39:00] | j-rod: | I'll see what I can do this weekend to get your card recognized properly, along with trying to fix the off-by-one index |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | Skif: if 5 doesnt work try 7 :) |
| [01:40:00] | Skif: | mchou: heh :) |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | I think the 5 direction is correct |
| [01:40:00] | iggy: | mchou: I don't remember off hand |
| [01:40:00] | Skif: | in fact, 5 did not help |
| [01:41:00] | ** Skif searches for any files which may be specifying otherwise. ** | |
| [01:41:00] | iggy: | oops, 0x21 is actually the saa7115 |
| [01:42:00] | iggy: | 0x40 is the msp |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | Skif: you did do depmod -a, right? |
| [01:42:00] | Skif: | mchou: I thought I had, but I just did, in case I forgot. |
| [01:42:00] | iggy: | mchou: the defines start on line 34 of ivtv-i2c.c |
| [01:43:00] | mchou: | just modprobe ivtv cardtype=7 :) |
| [01:43:00] | Skif: | heh |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | Skif: it work for ya? |
| [01:44:00] | Skif: | mchou: I don't know... I had a large find running at the same time, and the system appears hung |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [01:44:00] | ** Skif reboots ** | |
| [01:45:00] | ** Skif also looks for new languages to learn to curse in. ** | |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | just hope your drive aint trashed :) |
| [01:45:00] | Skif: | If it is, I'll just install KnoppMyth or something :) |
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| [01:52:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, what permission problem would cause livetv to freeze after 3sec.? |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | mythtv output will tell you. |
| [01:52:00] | jemarcks: | frontend? backend is clean |
| [01:53:00] | Skif: | okay, this is curios |
| [01:53:00] | Skif: | curious, even |
| [01:53:00] | Skif: | upon reboot, I get the IVTV START, but not the END message. |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | hmm..... |
| [01:54:00] | jemarcks: | skif, look again. maybe you checked before it finished |
| [01:54:00] | Skif: | jemarcks: it hasn't finished in 5 minutes |
| [01:54:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... |
| [01:55:00] | jemarcks: | this is the dmesg output? |
| [01:55:00] | Skif: | yes. |
| [01:55:00] | jemarcks: | anything after ivtv start? |
| [01:56:00] | Skif: | quite a bit, including the astonishing claim that I'm specifying tuner= somewhere (I'm not) |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | you must be somewhere |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | Skif: hehe :) |
| [01:56:00] | jemarcks: | are you sure its not auto-detecting the tuner and reporting it to you? |
| [01:56:00] | Skif: | Well, I'd think so too, j-rod, but I can't find it anywhere. :( I'm running a find -exec grep to make sure |
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| [01:57:00] | mchou: | Skif: put the output in pastebin |
| [01:57:00] | xris: | j-rod: your guide doesn't say what to do to auto-load the ivtv drivers |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | hey xris, two missing BuildReqs in your spec (just built w/it) |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | eh? |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | I swear it does... |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:57:00] | xris: | maybe I missed it |
| [01:58:00] | j-rod: | the rc.sysinit patch should take care of it |
| [01:58:00] | j-rod: | libavc1394-devel for firewire support and libXvMCW for nVidia XvMC (and probably for VLD) |
| [01:58:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [02:00:00] | xris: | anyway, which missing buildreqs? |
| [02:00:00] | xris: | everything I had was straight from axel's stuff |
| [02:00:00] | Skif: | mchou: http://pastebin.com/280686 |
| [02:00:00] | xris: | see, I *knew* he was missing something with those. |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | I shoulda tried w/his current spec also |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | Skif: line 7 looks good :) |
| [02:01:00] | Skif: | mchou: yep... but the rest of it, not so much :) |
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| [02:01:00] | mchou: | what line you referring to on tuner? |
| [02:02:00] | Skif: | 14 |
| [02:02:00] | xris: | j-rod: just changed it and reupped my spec, let me know if I got that right. |
| [02:02:00] | mchou: | Skif: hmm..... |
| [02:02:00] | j-rod: | url? |
| [02:02:00] | mchou: | That could be just a "side effect" |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | of specifying 150..... |
| [02:03:00] | Skif: | good point. |
| [02:03:00] | xris: | j-rod: http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/mythtv.spec |
| [02:03:00] | j-rod: | danke |
| [02:03:00] | Skif: | find /etc -type f -exec grep tuner= {} /dev/null \; shows nothing |
| [02:03:00] | xris: | np. thanks for finding those for me. |
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| [02:04:00] | mchou: | Skif: check rc.sysinit and rc.local |
| [02:04:00] | Skif: | mchou: both under /etc, no? |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [02:05:00] | ** Skif actually has neither of those files anyhow (ubuntu) ** | |
| [02:05:00] | xris: | j-rod: you really should make the little +- show/hide icons clickable |
| [02:05:00] | xris: | I keep trying to click them instead of the links next to them |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | Skif: I think you need to change ivtv code. |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | the user setting is all screwed up. |
| [02:05:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah, the spec looks good to me |
| [02:06:00] | xris: | cool |
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| [02:06:00] | Skif: | mchou: what line? |
| [02:06:00] | j-rod: | I tried briefly making the arrows clickable, weird things happened |
| [02:06:00] | xris: | lol |
| [02:06:00] | mchou: | Skif: grep User :) |
| [02:06:00] | j-rod: | can't remember exactly what, but I dropped it pretty quick and forgot about it |
| [02:06:00] | xris: | I'll hook you up with my cool javascript toggle_vis routines if you want. simplifies things a LOT |
| [02:06:00] | Skif: | mchou: that's just the 'cardtype=' option, though, isn't it? |
| [02:06:00] | mchou: | Skif: think it is in ivtv-driver.c |
| [02:07:00] | j-rod: | I pretty much just winged it on everything on my pages. :) |
| [02:07:00] | j-rod: | yeah, that'd be cool |
| [02:07:00] | xris: | if I remember later, I'll package up my toggle_vis library. |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | Skif: but that bug has other ramifications...... |
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| [02:07:00] | Skif: | mchou: point. |
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| [02:08:00] | Skif: | mchou: looks like it's driven off structs in ivtv-cards.c |
| [02:09:00] | Fosten: | anybody here have success with the pvr-500? |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | lol. Apparently plenty. |
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| [02:10:00] | mchou: | Skif, you message log is humorous :) |
| [02:10:00] | Skif: | mchou: I aim to please :) |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | Skif: acx100: You should better have bought e.g. a PRISM(R) chipset based card, |
| [02:10:00] | Skif: | heh, yeah, that's a great one. :) |
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| [02:11:00] | xris: | man, so much software to install |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | wow, I think that both of my cards are configured. heh. |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | now to get lirc working so it changes my dish channels. |
| [02:17:00] | Skif: | what does this mean: |
| [02:17:00] | Skif: | i2c_adapter i2c-2: I2C level transfers not supported |
| [02:17:00] | ** Skif sees a lot of them in dmesg.log ** | |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | probably means you havent loaded i2c modules, or some i2c transactions failed..... |
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| [02:18:00] | xris: | anyone have the link to that lirc transmit howto that used the unmodified atrpms package? |
| [02:20:00] | jasoncohen: | huh, anyone surprised that the FCC lost in court? |
| [02:20:00] | jasoncohen: | http://news.com.com/Court+says+FCCs+broadcast . . . 5697719.html |
| [02:20:00] | jasoncohen: | so much for the broadcast flag |
| [02:21:00] | j-rod: | xris, I coulda sworn I had a link to it, but now I'm not finding it anywhere in my stuff... |
| [02:21:00] | j-rod: | But here it is: http://lircsetup.com/ |
| [02:21:00] | xris: | heh |
| [02:21:00] | j-rod: | oh, wait, there it is |
| [02:21:00] | xris: | I have the "losdos" one that makes a separate install. worked well, but figured I should do it properly now. |
| [02:21:00] | j-rod: | on the tips page |
| [02:22:00] | xris: | wtf? gtk2-devel is needed by kernel-sourcecode-2.6.10–1.770_14.FC3.at.i686 |
| [02:23:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [02:23:00] | j-rod: | could be for make xconfig |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | ahh |
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| [02:23:00] | xris: | oh well. apt to the rescue |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | man, atrpms really pisses me off sometimes. |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libpixmap.so from install of gtk2–2.6.4–2_6.rhfc3.at conflicts with file from package gtk2-engines-2.2.0–6 |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | actually, I think that's apt |
| [02:25:00] | j-rod: | argh |
| [02:25:00] | xris: | oh, but good thing it failed. I had bleeding enabled. |
| [02:25:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I still have mixed feelings about some of the core packages that get replaced |
| [02:26:00] | j-rod: | It might be nice to have one "we won't touch any core packages unless we have to" version of atrpms and one that was like the current |
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| [02:28:00] | mchou: | xris: lol :) |
| [02:28:00] | bobc: | how can I change the visualizer in mythmusic? |
| [02:29:00] | jasoncohen: | has anyone done a dual monitor setup – desktop on 1st and mythtv on second ? |
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| [02:30:00] | bobc: | ok, looks like it's 5 & 6. it would be nice to have some sort of on-screen info for it |
| [02:30:00] | xris: | j-rod: I agree entirely |
| [02:30:00] | xris: | my biggest issue with atrpms is how it conflicts with core packages.. prevents upgrading cleanly to new versions of fedora, etc. |
| [02:30:00] | j-rod: | there definitely is some degree of vendor lock-in |
| [02:31:00] | j-rod: | (vendor = atrpms) |
| [02:31:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [02:32:00] | xris: | part of why Beirdo and I are becoming so anti-fedora |
| [02:32:00] | xris: | the package maintainers all bitch at each other and won't work together. |
| [02:32:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:33:00] | Beirdo: | It's so annoying. heh |
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| [02:36:00] | xris: | hmm, somehow my apt-get upgrade last night didn't work... so many new files to grab now. |
| [02:36:00] | j-rod: | yeehaw, I have a stresslinux pxe server up... |
| [02:36:00] | j-rod: | (I think) |
| [02:37:00] | Skif: | HOT damn! |
| [02:37:00] | Skif: | j-rod: I just added the vendor/subsystem id to ivtv-cards.c and it worked! |
| [02:38:00] | Skif: | WOO (insert expletive here) HOO! |
| [02:38:00] | Skif: | the audio is cutting out a bit here and there, though |
| [02:39:00] | Beirdo: | ahh.... blogging accomplished |
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| [02:40:00] | Beirdo: | http://blog.beirdo.ca/ |
| [02:40:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:40:00] | ** Skif has oodles of happiness :) ** | |
| [02:42:00] | j-rod: | Skif, kick-ass |
| [02:42:00] | j-rod: | send in a patch to ivtv-devel |
| [02:43:00] | j-rod: | damn, stresslinux pxe boot not *quite* there, need to adjust some paths to mount the right root... |
| [02:43:00] | Skif: | j-rod: will do |
| [02:45:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, I need to get my own southparkified self up... I love those. :) |
| [02:45:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:46:00] | jemarcks: | mythfrontend says 'remote encoder not responding' and then 'readstringlist' bad socket |
| [02:52:00] | j-rod: | ah well, stress can wait until Monday |
| [02:52:00] | Skif: | okay, so now there's about 2 pixels of blue on the left and top borders; how can I move the picture around to eliminate them? |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | stress can just go to hell :) |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:52:00] | j-rod: | indeed |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | oh, you mean stresslinux :) |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:52:00] | j-rod: | both, actually. :) |
| [02:52:00] | j-rod: | I'm outta here! |
| [02:53:00] | mshields: | jemarcks, i used to get errors like that, it was because the backend was loading before ivtv modules had finished loading |
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| [02:53:00] | jemarcks: | mshields. ahha |
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| [02:54:00] | jemarcks: | mshields. i load the backend in rc.local after ivtv |
| [02:54:00] | mshields: | not backgrounding the modprobe are you? |
| [02:55:00] | mshields: | was worth a look, that drove me nuts for a while :) |
| [02:55:00] | jemarcks: | mshields, nope... just background the backend launch |
| [02:56:00] | ** Skif is never upgrading ivtv again :) ** | |
| [02:56:00] | jemarcks: | just tried to play a dvd... i got picture but no audio |
| [02:56:00] | jemarcks: | skif, what version of ivtv ya got? |
| [02:56:00] | Skif: | jemarcks: 0.3.3z |
| [02:56:00] | jemarcks: | z?? |
| [02:56:00] | Skif: | yep |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | cool.. i just got 3.3p |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | what did they fix? |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | maybe that will fix my pvr150 problem |
| [02:57:00] | Skif: | apparently, my card :) |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | you got a 150? |
| [02:57:00] | ** Skif has a D492 pvr500 ** | |
| [02:58:00] | jemarcks: | cool... should help the 150 as well then |
| [02:58:00] | Skif: | I would think so, yeah |
| [02:58:00] | Skif: | there are a few changes related to cx25840 |
| [02:59:00] | jemarcks: | skif, do i need to get it from stable or testing |
| [02:59:00] | jemarcks: | ? |
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| [02:59:00] | Skif: | jemarcks: stable is only 0.3.2 right? |
| [02:59:00] | jemarcks: | not sure |
| [02:59:00] | Skif: | anyway, it's under the OLD directory on the downloads site. |
| [03:00:00] | jemarcks: | ill use yum to grab the rpm |
| [03:02:00] | Beirdo: | goddammit! |
| [03:02:00] | Beirdo: | every time I delete with mythweb the backend crashes |
| [03:03:00] | Beirdo: | this is so shitty |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | Beirdo: http://forevermore.net/files/misc/sp_me.png |
| [03:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:04:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:05:00] | Beirdo: | and I do mean every time I delete. |
| [03:05:00] | jemarcks: | skif [root@htpc1 mythtv]# rpm -q ivtv |
| [03:05:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv-0.3.4a-85.rhfc3.at |
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| [03:06:00] | xris: | oh, jarod left. |
| [03:07:00] | Beirdo: | this is obnoxious :) |
| [03:08:00] | xris: | hmm, no mythtv love. |
| [03:08:00] | xris: | won't play |
| [03:08:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: version 0.3.4 (a) loading wohoo! |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | ok, back in a bit. need to run to the store. |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | skif, ivtv: version 0.3.4 (a) loading wohoo! |
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| [03:28:00] | mshields: | [root@pluto ~]# modinfo ivtv | grep version: |
| [03:28:00] | mshields: | version: 0.3.4-c |
| [03:28:00] | mshields: | ;) |
| [03:29:00] | mshields: | unfortunately still getting no vbi and dmesg is flooded with buffer overruns |
| [03:29:00] | mshields: | looked like that was worked on in 0.3.4a-c |
| [03:30:00] | mshields: | hey mythtv keeps turning the master volume on my soundcard down |
| [03:30:00] | mshields: | how do i stop it from doing that |
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| [03:53:00] | xris: | ok, anyone here want to help me figure out why myth is freaking out? |
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| [03:57:00] | HRearden: | Can you define freaking out? |
| [03:58:00] | xris: | unable to initialize video |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | or DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. if enable my air2pc |
| [03:59:00] | HRearden: | Video card? |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | pvr-150 |
| [03:59:00] | HRearden: | video out? |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | pundit |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | well, in this case, to a monitor |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | remote frontend |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | worked before I upgraded my backend |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | (upgrade meaning install the pvr-150 and air2pc) |
| [04:00:00] | HRearden: | Odd. mythfrontend -v all output anything? |
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| [04:01:00] | HRearden: | I had the "unable to initialize video" problem when configure incorrectly detected an xvmc wrapper library. |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | yeah, that might be something. though it didn't mind before. |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | it should run fine with that stuff compiled in. |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | since that's the default in atrpms |
| [04:02:00] | HRearden: | Ah. gentoo guy myself. |
| [04:02:00] | HRearden: | Are you trying to watch livetv via DVB? |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | turned off air2pc for now |
| [04:03:00] | HRearden: | does this work on the frontend that the card is on, and only doesn't work on the remote frontend? |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | haven't tried the local frontend |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | it's in the other room, and my wife is watching tv. |
| [04:04:00] | HRearden: | Does the DVB stuff work outside of myth? |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | don't know how to test it. |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | it's disabled, though. pvr-150 works fine outside of myth |
| [04:05:00] | HRearden: | Hold on a sec, getting a link for you... |
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| [04:05:00] | HRearden: | http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=688 |
| [04:05:00] | HRearden: | It's for the pchdtv 3000, but the directions to test via the DVB drivers are OK. |
| [04:09:00] | xris: | still doesn't help with the 150 |
| [04:09:00] | HRearden: | did you test pre-recorded stuff vs. livetv |
| [04:09:00] | HRearden: | That would narrow down a record problem vs. video out problem. |
| [04:10:00] | HRearden: | No error output from mythfrontend -v all when you get the unable to initialize video? |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | recordings play fine |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | like I said, this frontend worked fine before I upgraded my backend. |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | though it does clearly say "No XvMC found" |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | wonder if there's an output filter that I can kill or something. |
| [04:11:00] | HRearden: | running cvs or 18? |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | cvs |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | wonder if it makes a difference that my recordings are mpeg4 |
| [04:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | whats better mp4 or mjpg? |
| [04:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | filesize doesent matter |
| [04:13:00] | xris: | MiX-MaN: do you have mjpeg card? |
| [04:13:00] | HRearden: | It could. It seems there is a lot more source-type detection going on now. For instance, in 18 and before my Epia M1000 would refuse to play HDTV, now it attempts to do so and just stutters badly. |
| [04:13:00] | xris: | they're mutually exclusive. |
| [04:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | no |
| [04:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | bt878 |
| [04:13:00] | xris: | then you have mpeg4 vs rtjpeg |
| [04:14:00] | xris: | what cpu do you have? |
| [04:14:00] | MiX-MaN: | xp2800 |
| [04:14:00] | xris: | mpeg4 is better, but requires a lot more cpu |
| [04:14:00] | xris: | you should be fine with mpeg4 |
| [04:14:00] | MiX-MaN: | cool.. thats what i use |
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| [04:14:00] | MiX-MaN: | no if i could on figure out why the system keeps locking up |
| [04:14:00] | MiX-MaN: | now* |
| [04:15:00] | xris: | guess I recompile without xvmc |
| [04:15:00] | HRearden: | The XvMC stuff certainly seems to be in a state of flux — new problems reported/resolved almost daily. Worth a note to -dev for sure. |
| [04:15:00] | xris: | yeah. dunno why axel wants it enabled by default |
| [04:16:00] | HRearden: | on my pesky little 1Ghz CPU, I've got no choice :) |
| [04:17:00] | protonchris: | I have a strange problem. When recording, mythtv only records the right audio channel. LiveTV works fine. I am using a PVR350 with TV out. The recording audio worked with 0.17. |
| [04:17:00] | protonchris: | Playback of recordings made with 0.17 work great. |
| [04:18:00] | protonchris: | Any Ideas? |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | odd |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | with ivtv stuff, livetv and recording are the same thing |
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| [04:20:00] | protonchris: | Yeah. it is really strange. with 0.17, recording worked great, but I couldn't get tvout to work. Now with 0.18 tvout works, but recording audio is broken. |
| [04:21:00] | protonchris: | Could it be a post processing problem (channel flagging)? |
| [04:21:00] | protonchris: | s/channel/commercial/ |
| [04:22:00] | xris: | hmm, I think my hdtv reception is messed up, too. |
| [04:23:00] | protonchris: | Audio problems? |
| [04:23:00] | man_in_xchat is now known as man_in_shack | |
| [04:24:00] | protonchris: | I am going to record something without commercial flagging. |
| [04:24:00] | xris: | protonchris: shouldn't matter, but worth a try, I guess. |
| [04:24:00] | HRearden: | Commercial flagging only updates table entries, doesn't alter the original recording at all. |
| [04:25:00] | protonchris: | Hmm. Any other ideas? |
| [04:25:00] | HRearden: | Are you positive it's a record issue and not playback? |
| [04:25:00] | HRearden: | Did you check the file in some sort of linux sound editor to verify? |
| [04:26:00] | protonchris: | I can playback shows that I that I recorded with 0.17 and the audio is fine. |
| [04:27:00] | protonchris: | So that seems like a record issue to me? :) |
| [04:28:00] | HRearden: | What's your video source? |
| [04:29:00] | protonchris: | Analog Cable. |
| [04:29:00] | protonchris: | Live TV works fine. |
| [04:29:00] | HRearden: | That makes little sense to me at all. |
| [04:30:00] | protonchris: | Does mythtv do any post processing that would alter the recording? |
| [04:31:00] | HRearden: | Are you set up to transcode your files? |
| [04:32:00] | protonchris: | I am not sure. I will have to check. Right now, I am watching and recording a show at the same time. |
| [04:33:00] | protonchris: | The recording is about 3 minutes ahead of the playback. The sound is perfect. It has to be post processing. |
| [04:34:00] | HRearden: | Do you have "transcode" the program installed? If so, try doing a "tcprobe -i <filename>" on one you recorded under 17 and then one now and let me know what's different. |
| [04:35:00] | leftyfb: | damnit, i don't get it .. . why does mplayer play the mp3's off my ipod just fine but myth wont even see the files? |
| [04:35:00] | ** man_in_shack wonders if anyone here has managed to get kernel module saa7134-dvb or cx88-dvb to compile ** | |
| [04:36:00] | protonchris: | HRearden: I don't have transcode installed, but I can install it. Should I? |
| [04:37:00] | HRearden: | Just an easy way of checking on what I file really is, i.e. is it MPEG4 or MPEG2. I find transcode useful for many things. |
| [04:38:00] | HRearden: | You could try "file <filename>" also... |
| [04:41:00] | xris: | hmm, cvs server's not responding. |
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| [04:41:00] | protonchris: | using file, I get this for two different files (one 0.17 and one 0.18): |
| [04:41:00] | protonchris: | MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex |
| [04:42:00] | HRearden: | And one works (stereo) and the other doesn't (one channel only) ? |
| [04:43:00] | protonchris: | Yes. |
| [04:43:00] | protonchris: | I am recording another show now. Let me make sure that it happens again. |
| [04:43:00] | HRearden: | So I'm fairly sure you're not transcoding then. |
| [04:44:00] | protonchris: | ok. |
| [04:44:00] | HRearden: | Here's a test. On the show that is currently recording, exit LiveTV mode and go in via Watch Recordings. What's the sound do then? |
| [04:44:00] | protonchris: | That is what I am doing now. The audio works great. |
| [04:47:00] | HRearden: | Go to setup->tv settings->playback . You using any filters? |
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| [04:51:00] | protonchris: | No filters listed. I am pretty much using the defaults for mythtv |
| [04:56:00] | man_in_shack: | what flags do i need for diff to create a patch file? |
| [04:56:00] | LaggyMcGee: | My commercial flagging isn't working..... |
| [04:56:00] | LaggyMcGee: | It worked before, and now it's not... Why would that happen? |
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| [04:58:00] | LaggyMcGee: | In the status, it says that it's flagging commercials... but when I try to skip it says "No Flags" (or something like that) |
| [04:59:00] | Tommck: | I just upgraded to CVS tonight and I'm getting repeated lockups in the front end. Anyone else experiencing this? |
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| [05:00:00] | Tommck: | ahh.. screw it... I"m really sleepy... I'll deal with it tomorrow. |
| [05:00:00] | Tommck: | good night all |
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| [05:05:00] | leftyfb: | anyone know why i can mount an ipod, ssh in, go to the dir, play the music with mplayer .. but myth won't bring anything up for music or anything in it's front end? |
| [05:06:00] | leftyfb: | and yes the "Directory to hold music" is set correctly |
| [05:07:00] | leftyfb: | i've tried direct to the mount, i've tried symlinks, i've tried mounting it over the default /mnt/media/Music dir ... I scan for new music and select music still shows nothing |
| [05:07:00] | leftyfb: | if i kill the ipod and stick music in the default folder and point myth there it finds it just fine |
| [05:09:00] | vile_maxim: | I'm kinda at a loss with lirc stuff. The remote will not work at all. I've tried irrecord and I get could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions). Can anyone help with some troubleshooting |
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| [05:18:00] | vile_maxim: | I'm at a lost with lirc. I have a remote that came with pcv pro tuner card. It plugs into a serial port. For the life of me I cannot figure out how to get this remote to work. Anyone can help with some troubleshooting? |
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| [05:37:00] | xris: | vile_maxim: if I remember my pctv pro remote, it's really funky. the remote and receiver work ONLY with each other. |
| [05:37:00] | xris: | but I don't remember how to get it working itself. |
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| [06:04:00] | man_in_shack: | well i got the cx88-dvb module to compile |
| [06:04:00] | man_in_shack: | but it doesn't work |
| [06:04:00] | man_in_shack: | oh well |
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| [06:04:00] | man_in_shack: | cx88_dvb: Unknown symbol cx22702_create |
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| [06:08:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: are you still going? |
| [06:09:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i'm getting closer too 8) |
| [06:10:00] | man_in_shack: | i think i found a patch that can work |
| [06:11:00] | fatmatt: | you need a patch? |
| [06:11:00] | fatmatt: | how much was the card? |
| [06:12:00] | man_in_shack: | au$89 |
| [06:12:00] | ** xris bemoans his nonfunctional mythbox ** | |
| [06:12:00] | fatmatt: | thats cheap |
| [06:12:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, so far i've got 2 patches applied |
| [06:12:00] | man_in_shack: | i know |
| [06:12:00] | fatmatt: | was going to suggest buying another one |
| [06:12:00] | man_in_shack: | heh |
| [06:13:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i like the look of this card. i haven't found any others in the price range that have analogue inputs |
| [06:13:00] | fatmatt: | has anyone noticed big differences between the mdz debs and compiling from source? |
| [06:13:00] | man_in_shack: | as in composite in |
| [06:14:00] | LaggyMcGee: | My frontend is acting all weird.... says the commercials aren't flagged, takes 10 seconds to jump ahead.... Any reasons for that? |
| [06:14:00] | LaggyMcGee: | It's usually great. |
| [06:14:00] | man_in_shack: | hmm |
| [06:14:00] | man_in_shack: | ok, that patch didn't go smoothly |
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| [06:15:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: what kernel version are you using? |
| [06:15:00] | man_in_shack: | lol |
| [06:15:00] | man_in_shack: | the reject is for a patch i already applied 8) |
| [06:16:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, 2.6.11.8 |
| [06:16:00] | fatmatt: | okay, thats the one I'm using |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | Good morning everyone!!!! Nice to be back here in mythtv-users and here too in ILLINOIS :D |
| [06:18:00] | man_in_shack: | w00! |
| [06:18:00] | man_in_shack: | that patch worked |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | anyone seen mchou? |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | or beirdo? xris? |
| [06:18:00] | man_in_shack: | but from the looks of it, it still won't work |
| [06:18:00] | man_in_shack: | gotta try it out |
| [06:20:00] | man_in_shack: | yep |
| [06:20:00] | xris: | I'm here, but having tons of problems of my own. |
| [06:20:00] | man_in_shack: | still not working, but it's a hell of a lot closer 8) |
| [06:20:00] | man_in_shack: | cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.4 loaded |
| [06:20:00] | man_in_shack: | cx88[0]: FIXME: frontend handling not here yet ... |
| [06:20:00] | man_in_shack: | cx88-dvb: probe of 0000:01:09.2 failed with error -1 |
| [06:20:00] | defaultro: | hi xris |
| [06:21:00] | defaultro: | i just came back from Orlando :) |
| [06:21:00] | defaultro: | left IL night of my bday april 30 :D |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | so xris, what problems are you referring too? |
| [06:23:00] | xris: | fresh install |
| [06:23:00] | xris: | air2pc doesn't work |
| [06:23:00] | xris: | and lirc transmitting isn't setting up properly |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | have you tried the dvb tools? |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | in what way air2pc isn't working? |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | that's the card that jarod gave right? |
| [06:25:00] | xris: | well, I've stopped trying to play with the air2pc for now, just trying to get the lirc stuff working now so I can at least record basic stuff |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | oh ok. So you are using irrecord to record buttons right? |
| [06:25:00] | xris: | no |
| [06:25:00] | xris: | transmitter |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:26:00] | Beirdo: | get with the program :) |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | what device are you changing? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | did you execute setserial? |
| [06:26:00] | man_in_shack: | this is fun |
| [06:27:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I added a new backend, and now it's trying to do all the commercial flagging there... where do I change it back to the master? |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | defaultro: I'm following a guide |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | I have a bunch of other problems, too |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | just hoping that I may be able to help |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | nah, I'm just cursed |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:37:00] | Skif: | Hrm... my screen just went blank and my terminal started scrolling "waited too long to pause for video out".... what's that mean? |
| [06:37:00] | Skif: | I was able to C-c out of it and restart mythfrontend, but I'd like to know if I can fix it. |
| [06:37:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Anyone know why it says on MythWeb that the commercials were flagged (3 breaks found), yet when I play it on the frontend, it says there's no flags? |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | ok, on boot, mythbackend tries to start up before mysql |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | ok, yay, mythbackend is finally starting on its own now. |
| [06:52:00] | ** xris wishes jarod was back ** | |
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| [07:02:00] | xris: | anyone know how to make fedora auto-load ivtv? |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | xris: jarod's guide doesnt cover that? |
| [07:04:00] | xris: | something's obviously set wrong on my machine since it's not working |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | defaultro: heh, you watch house a few nights ago? |
| [07:04:00] | MajestiK: | xris, how much of the nuvexport manuals should be manpage, and how much should be on the wiki? |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | xris: I'm afraid you need to be more specific than "not working" |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | MajestiK: honestly, if the manpage just says "See the wiki" I'm cool with that. |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | since the wiki is a lot easier to edit. |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | mchou: well, I reboot, and ivtv isn't loaded. |
| [07:05:00] | rjune: | as long as the URL for the wiki is in the manpage |
| [07:05:00] | MajestiK: | Yeah.. I'm thinking maybe just polish what's there for the page now, and throw the rest into wiki |
| [07:06:00] | MajestiK: | and have a auto leech the wiki into the tgz at packaging time? |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | then again, it's in rc.local now, so it seems ok |
| [07:06:00] | rjune: | xris: prolly put modprobe ivtv in rc.local |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | xris: I dont use fedora, but there is no modprobe.preload? |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | rjune: that's what I did. wanted to make it a little more automatic, though |
| [07:08:00] | rjune: | Uhm. ok |
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| [07:08:00] | xris: | as in not manually coded into rc.local |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | man, streamtuner is cool :) |
| [07:08:00] | fatmatt: | whats streamtuner? |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | lol, you gotta check it out...... |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | rjune: I'm also concerned that some lirc-related stuff isn't working properly. |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | http://www.nongnu.org/streamtuner/ |
| [07:13:00] | fatmatt: | mchou: nice |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | fatmatt: you try it out? :) |
| [07:15:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i think i'll go back to hoping 2.6.12 will fix it 8) |
| [07:18:00] | fatmatt: | mchou: playing with it now, wouldn't do windows audio streams? |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | fatmatt: use xine/mplayer as the player for windows streams |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | fatmatt: you can configure it. |
| [07:21:00] | ** xris kicks lirc ** | |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | damn xris, I thought you'd set all this stuff up b4...... |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | I did. under 2.4 kernel |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | this is a new kernel, new card, new distro release, new mythtv. |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | nothing the same as before other than the computer, and that much works. |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | but feel free to offer more constructive comments. |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | lol, just wondering why you're throwing an tantrum :) |
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| [07:27:00] | xris: | tantrum? no, just upset since I've been working on this for like 8 hours with no real progress. |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | sigh. Why you so upset? Your 2.4 system should still be working...... |
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| [07:29:00] | xris: | um, it's the same system |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | 2.4 side of things is gone. |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | had to wipe it to have room to install the upgrade (10G OS partition) |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | ahh, that's why you are so frazzled. |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | yes |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | cause you cant go back (or move forward) |
| [07:31:00] | xris: | yup |
| [07:31:00] | xris: | well, can go back, but the pvr-150 doesn't play nicely with 2.4 |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | hmm?? 150 worked for me on 2.4..... |
| [07:32:00] | xris: | maybe that's since been fixed. |
| [07:32:00] | xris: | anyway, can't really go back now. |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | but anyway, installing a system shouldnt take 8 hrs :) |
| [07:32:00] | arrummzen_: | Have any of you gotten a USB Video Capture Device working with mythtv? |
| [07:33:00] | xris: | it's mostly up now. just can't get lirc transmitter working |
| [07:35:00] | xris: | hmm, maybe because lirc doesn't seem to be built with the serial driver. |
| [07:35:00] | xris: | arrummzen_: only ones I know of that *might* work are the plextor ones. |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | xris: or more likely your kernel is loading the serial module :) |
| [07:35:00] | xris: | /usr/sbin/lircd --driver=serial |
| [07:35:00] | xris: | Driver `serial' not supported. |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | heh :) |
| [07:36:00] | arrummzen_: | xris: have two ATI capture devices, a PCI one for my desktop (which works fine), and a usb 2.0 one for my laptop. |
| [07:36:00] | arrummzen_: | I am guessing the ATI USB 2.0 Capture device isn't supprted? |
| [07:36:00] | xris: | arrummzen_: do you know if there are linux drivers for it? |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | xris: try "/usr/sbin/lircd --driver=?" |
| [07:36:00] | arrummzen_: | xris, There are for the PCI version, but they won't work for the USB version.. |
| [07:36:00] | xris: | mchou: prints out the same thing |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | doesn't have my ati_usb one listed, either, and that one used to work, too |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | xris: maybe it's driver=help |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | it's listing the drivers. |
| [07:38:00] | xris: | no matter what you put |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | anyway, if it aint compiled in, time for compile. |
| [07:40:00] | xris: | or to install a version that has it. |
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| [07:45:00] | fatmatt: | mchou: would be good to get streamtuner working on the mythbox |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | fatmatt: for sure. |
| [07:52:00] | xris: | ok, mchou.. any way to list my IRQ's, etc to make sure I'm using the correct serial port? |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | cat /proc/interrupts |
| [07:55:00] | ** man_in_shack thisnk waiting for .12 to be released is a very good idea ** | |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | cat /proc/ioports is also handy |
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| [08:05:00] | timekllr: | anyone still awake ? |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | depends who's asking. |
| [08:05:00] | timekllr: | heh – a power user with an unusual ivtv bug |
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| [08:06:00] | timekllr: | ever seen a pvr 250 only get detected properly on cold boot ? |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | lol, I think you should let others be the judge of whether you're a power user..... :) |
| [08:07:00] | timekllr: | this is my current setup: https://www.timekiller.org/filelib/mythtv.png |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | hmm?? what do you mean? modprobe ivtv fails to detect pvr250? |
| [08:07:00] | timekllr: | actually – I'm in the process of pgrading it |
| [08:07:00] | timekllr: | ivtv loads, but can't detect the chipset, defaults to pvr 150 |
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| [08:08:00] | timekllr: | can't get anything from the card video/audio wise...but if I cold boot, it works fine |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | So? put the cardtype in there or something. |
| [08:08:00] | timekllr: | it's not the card – card works fine in another box |
| [08:08:00] | timekllr: | i have everything set in modprobe – doesn't matter |
| [08:09:00] | timekllr: | even with tuner=2 it doesn't get detected |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | so how are you invoking modprobe? |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | I said cardtype, not tuner. |
| [08:10:00] | timekllr: | it's on gentoo, so it's done the gentoo way...have a /etc/modules.d/ivtv with all the setting, modules-update loads it into modprobe.conf |
| [08:10:00] | arrummzen_: | What kind of video source is the coaxal cable coming from a cable box? |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | timekllr: I didn't ask how it's done in any distro. I asked how you are invoking modprobe. |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | timekllr: so put contents of those files in pastebin. |
| [08:12:00] | timekllr: | i don't get what you are asking ? i don't modprobe manually, i let the system do it at boot |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | lol....show me contents of modprobe.conf or whatever file it's called. |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | fscking gentoo turn a simple thing like inserting modules into a billion unnecessary steps. |
| [08:14:00] | timekllr: | mchou never used pastebin b4, goggled and assume this is what you are looking for: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=280766 |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | so where is the cardtype parameter? |
| [08:16:00] | timekllr: | never seen the cardtype parameter in any docs – will have to try it now |
| [08:17:00] | timekllr: | for pvr250 the cardtype should be 2 ? |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | timekllr: modinfo is your friend. |
| [08:19:00] | timekllr: | aha – got it |
| [08:19:00] | timekllr: | lemme give this a try now... |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | clueless gentoo users. |
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| [08:23:00] | timekllr: | cardtype didn't do jack |
| [08:24:00] | timekllr: | still says unknown card, defaults to pvr 150 |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | then gentoo must be at fault. |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | put ivtv output to pastebin |
| [08:25:00] | timekllr: | nope – running gentoo on 3 other boxes – same setup no problem, i'm leaning towards the mobo |
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| [08:26:00] | timekllr: | mchou http://pastebin.com/280773 |
| [08:26:00] | mchou: | lol..... |
| [08:27:00] | mchou: | why dont you read the damn istructions..... |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | timekllr: This is hardly a "bug" |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | and according to the output you did not set cardtype. |
| [08:32:00] | Skif: | UI question-- when I'm fast-forwarding recorded video, it'll fast-forward for a few seconds, and then stop. I can hit play at that point, or right-arrow to speed up the fast-forward, but I can't seem to continuously fast-forward. Is this a bug in 0.17, or is it just me? :) |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | Skif: never used ff :) |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | just use skip :) |
| [08:34:00] | timekllr: | mchou any other thoughts ? |
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| [08:34:00] | mchou: | timekllr: what other thoughts?? I told you everything you need to do. |
| [08:34:00] | Skif: | mchou: already in the few hours I've had this working, I've found at least one program (Futurama on TBS) that doesn't mark commercials properly. |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | Skif: lol, I didnt say "commercial skip", I said skip :) |
| [08:35:00] | Skif: | mchou: what granularity do you have it set to? |
| [08:36:00] | ** Skif is at 3 minutes, which is just about right most of the time. ** | |
| [08:36:00] | mchou: | 1min f, 10 secs back. |
| [08:36:00] | xris: | blech. lirc segfaults |
| [08:36:00] | ** Skif will give that a shot. ** | |
| [08:36:00] | Skif: | Hooray for crappy chicony IR keyboards that plug into the PS2 port. :) |
| [08:36:00] | xris: | at least I've determined that it doesn't matter if I compile by hand or if I use packages. |
| [08:37:00] | mchou: | Skif: lol, you using a crappy chicony wireless kb?? |
| [08:37:00] | Skif: | mchou: yeah, because I have a learning remote, so I figured it was easier to teach my remote to understand keyboard commands than to teach mythtv my remote's commands. :) |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | Skif: what model chicony is this? |
| [08:39:00] | Skif: | mchou: KB-0005 |
| [08:39:00] | timekllr: | mchou apparently you are too full of yourself to be any real help – if the module detects the card right on cold boot but not warm I would certainly call that a bug. and I DID set the cardtype, but the option didn't do jack so get off your damn high horse, you don't know as much as you think |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | mchou looks for pic of KB-0005 on google. |
| [08:41:00] | Skif: | timekllr: I found mchou to be very helpful in my approximately 10-day long saga of getting my card working. I know it gets seriously frustrating, believe me! But you might want to chill out for a bit, and see if maybe there's another way to express it. |
| [08:43:00] | mchou: | Skif: yeah, I think I saw that KB in a store once. I already had two liteon airboards though. http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/keyboard/sk7100.asp |
| [08:44:00] | timekllr: | whatever man, i'm chill – i just came in here seeing if anyone has seen this before, and he's telling me to read the damn instructions like i'm some noob – TRUST me, i know how to rtfm |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | timekllr: lol, apparently you failed to read this time around. |
| [08:44:00] | timekllr: | mchou tell me, what exactly it is you think i didn't read ? |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | cause the answer is right in front of you in the ivtv output. |
| [08:45:00] | Skif: | mchou: it's really hard to find IR wireless keyboards these days, it seems. |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | Skif: yeah, stupid ppl dont know the benefits of IR :) |
| [08:46:00] | Skif: | mchou: I had to buy from some crappy store in Indiana or something, and pay $10(!) shipping for this piece of crap |
| [08:46:00] | mchou: | Skif: my IR kb even does "Wake on Keyboard" |
| [08:46:00] | mchou: | Skif: $10 for shipping?? What a rip. |
| [08:47:00] | Skif: | mchou: it was either $20 and $10 shipping or $25 and $5 shipping. Either way, same $ :) |
| [08:47:00] | mchou: | heh :) |
| [08:47:00] | mchou: | Skif: my g/f spotted the IR kb for me. I walked by it so many times and didnt realize it :) |
| [08:48:00] | Skif: | mchou: lucky you, to have such a g/f |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | She pointed it out. I bought one, was so pleased that I went back and got another. |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | Skif: but most commercials are around 3 minutes...... |
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| [08:50:00] | Skif: | mchou: I'm just gonna play around with it for a bit, see how it works for me. |
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| [08:53:00] | xris: | my air2pc card seems to have been detected as an ethernet device. |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | xris: that's the way it's supposed to work. |
| [08:54:00] | xris: | mchou: oh? |
| [08:54:00] | xris: | interesting. |
| [08:54:00] | xris: | guess I should reenable eth1, then |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | xris: I thought you had air2pc working earlier (your wife records....) |
| [08:55:00] | xris: | no |
| [08:55:00] | xris: | I was bttv before |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | xris: I didtinctly remember you mentioning your wife recording HDTV....when someone else wanted your a2pc :) |
| [08:56:00] | xris: | great, I broke something and now I don't eveh have SOME lirc devices. |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | distinctly* |
| [08:56:00] | xris: | mchou: that's what I *intend* to use it for. |
| [08:57:00] | xris: | wait, and now the devices are back |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | hehe.... |
| [08:57:00] | xris: | I guess I ssh'd in before things were fully booted. |
| [08:59:00] | xris: | but... I still can't run irsend without it crashing lircd. |
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| [08:59:00] | mchou: | xris: ooh, that's bad. |
| [08:59:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [09:00:00] | mchou: | I'd give lirc cvs a shot. |
| [09:00:00] | xris: | I've tried both .7.0 and .7.1 |
| [09:01:00] | mchou: | bah, cvs is where it's at :) |
| [09:01:00] | xris: | I don't really care to live on the edge |
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| [11:54:00] | Tommck: | I just upgraded to CVS yesterday and the front end locks up every time I finish watching a show and try to delete it |
| [11:54:00] | Tommck: | anyone else experiencing this? |
| [11:58:00] | Tommck: | actually... apparently, it's not locking up.. it's just taking a LONG time to delete. |
| [12:00:00] | stoffel: | works fine here on a remote frontend |
| [12:00:00] | Tommck: | stoffel – weird... it didn't actually delete... it lost connection with the backend during the delete call |
| [12:00:00] | stoffel: | but creating new preview images blocks the frontend ;) works via mythweb |
| [12:00:00] | Tommck: | apparently that's what's been happening, I've just been too impatient |
| [12:01:00] | Tommck: | I don't use preview images... never found them useful |
| [12:01:00] | Tommck: | I mean... what's a snapshot of Family Guy going to do for me? |
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| [12:02:00] | Tommck: | this is disturbing. |
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| [12:02:00] | Tommck: | I upgraded to fix something and 2 things are broken now :) |
| [12:02:00] | Tommck: | I can't go to "zoom" aspect ratio or the image keeps jumping up and down (really fast) |
| [12:02:00] | Tommck: | actually, any aspect ratio that scales vertically does that now |
| [12:03:00] | stoffel: | could be the bob deinterlace |
| [12:03:00] | Tommck: | ooh... there's one difference from before.... I did --enable-proc-opt (or whatever it is) on my ./configure line... |
| [12:03:00] | Tommck: | maybe I should try without that |
| [12:04:00] | Tommck: | I switched to "one field" and the problem goes away. |
| [12:04:00] | Tommck: | what happened to "Bob"? I've used that for months |
| [12:05:00] | stoffel: | no idea |
| [12:05:00] | Tommck: | weird |
| [12:05:00] | Tommck: | you think the processor specific optimizations would cause a timeout with the backend? |
| [12:07:00] | stoffel: | could be, but i know 0 about c/c++ |
| [12:07:00] | Tommck: | right. |
| [12:07:00] | stoffel: | ok, i'm off for lunch |
| [12:07:00] | Tommck: | I guess I'll rebuild and see what's happening there... (kind of annoying to rebuild Myth on 2 machines to test something though) |
| [12:07:00] | Tommck: | thanks stoffel |
| [12:11:00] | man_in_shack: | well this is fun. new kernel, rebooting |
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| [12:22:00] | man_in_shack: | JohnnyST in #dvb gave me a new kernel. patched version of 2.6.10 |
| [12:22:00] | man_in_shack: | now my dvb-t card gets picked up :D |
| [12:24:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: cool |
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| [12:27:00] | man_in_shack: | 2005-05–07 21:28:25.457 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [12:27:00] | man_in_shack: | Connection timed out. |
| [12:27:00] | man_in_shack: | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| [12:27:00] | man_in_shack: | in the setup program and set the proper IP address. |
| [12:27:00] | man_in_shack: | 8| |
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| [12:28:00] | Tommck: | is the backend running? |
| [12:28:00] | man_in_shack: | probably not |
| [12:28:00] | man_in_shack: | how do i check? |
| [12:28:00] | Tommck: | ps -ef | grep mythbackend |
| [12:28:00] | man_in_shack: | nope |
| [12:28:00] | man_in_shack: | funny |
| [12:29:00] | man_in_shack: | i thought i saw it running on boot |
| [12:29:00] | Tommck: | check your message log and see if it died for some reason |
| [12:29:00] | Tommck: | did you set it up to run on boot? |
| [12:29:00] | man_in_shack: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendQSettings: error creating /root/.qt |
| [12:29:00] | man_in_shack: | it set itself up to |
| [12:29:00] | man_in_shack: | debian package |
| [12:29:00] | Tommck: | ahh. ok |
| [12:29:00] | man_in_shack: | /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend |
| [12:29:00] | Tommck: | you have it running as root? |
| [12:30:00] | Tommck: | I wouldn't do that |
| [12:30:00] | Tommck: | is that the .deb's default? |
| [12:30:00] | man_in_shack: | well as user: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: Unable to set gid to 113 |
| [12:30:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [12:31:00] | Tommck: | just because there's an issue running as a user doesn't mean you should run as root :) |
| [12:31:00] | man_in_shack: | ok ... something changed there |
| [12:31:00] | man_in_shack: | 2005-05–07 21:34:33.784 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [12:31:00] | man_in_shack: | 2005-05–07 21:34:33.791 Using protocol version 14 |
| [12:31:00] | man_in_shack: | 2005-05–07 21:34:33.979 Disable DPMS |
| [12:31:00] | man_in_shack: | 2005-05–07 21:34:39.050 taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [12:32:00] | man_in_shack: | 2005-05–07 21:34:49.053 Took more than 10 seconds to be allowed to read, aborting. |
| [12:32:00] | Tommck: | what app is this coming from? front end? |
| [12:32:00] | man_in_shack: | yes |
| [12:32:00] | Tommck: | and you were trying to watch tv? |
| [12:32:00] | man_in_shack: | yes |
| [12:32:00] | man_in_shack: | i don't think the channels are configured properly. not sure |
| [12:32:00] | Tommck: | I've seen this before... hmm.. what the heck was it? |
| [12:33:00] | Tommck: | any console messages from the backend? |
| [12:33:00] | man_in_shack: | none that i can see |
| [12:34:00] | Tommck: | can you verify that your cards are working? |
| [12:34:00] | Tommck: | (outside of Myth) |
| [12:34:00] | man_in_shack: | i have no idea |
| [12:34:00] | man_in_shack: | i only just got the card getting registered as dvb a few mins ago |
| [12:34:00] | Tommck: | ahh.. |
| [12:35:00] | man_in_shack: | and i only bought the thing yesterday |
| [12:35:00] | Tommck: | then you need to make sure it can get video |
| [12:35:00] | man_in_shack: | ye |
| [12:35:00] | Tommck: | I don't know anything about dvb cards, but there's got to be some sort of command-line tester app |
| [12:35:00] | man_in_shack: | there's scan |
| [12:35:00] | Tommck: | like with Hauppauge PVRs you can "cat" from the device to an mpeg |
| [12:35:00] | man_in_shack: | but it needs a channel listing |
| [12:36:00] | Tommck: | and with pcHDTV cards, you can use dtvsignal to check signal strength (and another one to capture to disk) |
| [12:36:00] | man_in_shack: | thins one doesn't have an mpeg encoder afaik |
| [12:36:00] | man_in_shack: | Tommck, pcHTDV cards wouldn't have a problem would they?> |
| [12:36:00] | Tommck: | what do you mean? |
| [12:36:00] | man_in_shack: | except outside of america 8) |
| [12:36:00] | man_in_shack: | Tommck, they're specifically designed to work in linux |
| [12:36:00] | Tommck: | hehe – sure |
| [12:36:00] | Tommck: | but they have their problems sometimes too |
| [12:37:00] | Tommck: | the drivers aren't fantastic |
| [12:37:00] | Tommck: | but they work for me |
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| [12:44:00] | Tommck: | Is anyone having issues with timeouts during delets? |
| [12:45:00] | fatmatt: | does mytht work with usb tuners? |
| [12:45:00] | AndyCap: | argh, what changes the visualisation in mythmysic? |
| [12:45:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – I don't think so, but I'm no expert |
| [12:45:00] | Tommck: | AndyCap – it's in the setup |
| [12:45:00] | Tommck: | (front end setup) |
| [12:46:00] | AndyCap: | Tommck: thank you. |
| [12:46:00] | Tommck: | np |
| [12:46:00] | fatmatt: | I would have thought that myth would just look at the frontend dvb stuff, and leave the usb to the OS. But... I've seen some stuff that would suggest not |
| [12:47:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – I didn't think that the OS had anything to do with DVB or anything else for that matter. Of course, it depends on what you're calling the "OS" |
| [12:48:00] | fatmatt: | Tommck: Operating system, ie kernel |
| [12:48:00] | fatmatt: | though I'm not a code monkey so I'm probably wrong |
| [12:48:00] | Tommck: | and you're saying that usb video devices are supported by the kernel? |
| [12:50:00] | fatmatt: | well I meant that as other video devices are supported by the kernel I would assume that somewhere in that list a usb video device would be.. I'm just looking into another tv tuner and wondering if it's worthwhile looking at usb |
| [12:51:00] | ** fatmatt checks kernel ** | |
| [12:52:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – well, It's my understanding that video input devices are supported by kernel modules and not the kernel, though v4l can be compiled into the kernel. I'm just not sure if the USB devices are a standard video device. I know that if there is any usb support in Myth, it's recent. But I am definitely not an expert in this area |
| [12:52:00] | fatmatt: | yah, theres a supported usb adapters section there |
| [12:52:00] | Tommck: | that's for the USB connection, generically used for tons of stuff, right? |
| [12:52:00] | fatmatt: | nahh, it's under dvb |
| [12:53:00] | fatmatt: | --- Supported USB Adapters ? ? |
| [12:53:00] | fatmatt: | ? ? < > Technotrend/Hauppauge Nova-USB devices (NEW) ? ? |
| [12:53:00] | fatmatt: | ? ? < > Technotrend/Hauppauge USB DEC devices (NEW) |
| [12:53:00] | Tommck: | well, then you'd have to ask some other folks about whether it works in Myth. Is there a need/desire to go to USB? |
| [12:53:00] | fatmatt: | laptop |
| [12:54:00] | Tommck: | ah |
| [12:54:00] | man_in_shack: | 8| |
| [12:54:00] | Tommck: | is that your only machine? It seems kind of strange to use a laptop as your HTPC |
| [12:54:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i've got some positive results out of scan |
| [12:54:00] | Tommck: | it's not like you can move around and keep the cable connected to your TV connection :) |
| [12:54:00] | man_in_shack: | but i dunno how to get it to a point where i can WATCH tv |
| [12:55:00] | fatmatt: | not really, but as a backend slave when it's sitting in the same place for a couple of weeks.. |
| [12:55:00] | Tommck: | ah.. I see |
| [12:55:00] | Tommck: | is your other machine already overburdened? |
| [12:57:00] | fatmatt: | and normally I want to use the usb tuner as a standalone, travelling etc, and it not turning into a paperweight at some stage in the future would depend on it having another use |
| [12:57:00] | fatmatt: | Tommck: 1 analog and 1 digital tuner |
| [12:57:00] | Tommck: | ah. well, I'd do some google searching and maybe email the mythtv-users list |
| [12:58:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – that's not too much for one backend unless it's a slow machine |
| [12:59:00] | man_in_shack: | did someone say xine can view dvb tv? |
| [12:59:00] | Tommck: | I didn't hear anything :) |
| [13:00:00] | ** man_in_shack shouts in Tommck's ear: "ARE YOU SURE?" ** | |
| [13:00:00] | ** Tommck : "WHAT!?" ** | |
| [13:00:00] | man_in_shack: | hehe |
| [13:04:00] | fatmatt: | Tommck: Cel 2.4ghz, 512mb ram, it can probably take another dtv card easily |
| [13:04:00] | man_in_shack: | heh i got xine barely picking up the picture |
| [13:04:00] | man_in_shack: | stupid antenna |
| [13:04:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – yeah, I'd say so |
| [13:04:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – actually, it could probably take more... is it your front end to? |
| [13:04:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: there should be a button with dvb on it for xine |
| [13:05:00] | fatmatt: | yeah, frontend as well |
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| [13:05:00] | Tommck: | well, digital cards are get mpeg streams natively, so they don't take much CPU at all... it's all IO |
| [13:06:00] | fatmatt: | yah, I need extra hard drive space I think |
| [13:06:00] | Tommck: | how much now? |
| [13:06:00] | Chacabaou: | Can I transcode a recording (with the buildt-in transcoder), create another cutlist and transcode it again? Would the second transcoding be lossless compared to the already transcoded version? |
| [13:07:00] | fatmatt: | 200gb, but... thats got my home directory on it as well |
| [13:07:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i found it, yes |
| [13:07:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – yeah.. I'd probably get more |
| [13:07:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i'm prolly gonna need a new antenna |
| [13:07:00] | ** Tommck has 1.2TB :) ** | |
| [13:07:00] | man_in_shack: | brb |
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| [13:07:00] | fatmatt: | niiiicee |
| [13:07:00] | fatmatt: | how have you got that set up, LVM? |
| [13:08:00] | fatmatt: | I was going to use that but had issues getting my head around how it all worked so I just went good old ext3 |
| [13:08:00] | fatmatt: | that'll probably bite me at some time |
| [13:08:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – yeah |
| [13:08:00] | Tommck: | fatmatt – yeah.. .actually as soon as you go to add that next drive :) |
| [13:10:00] | fatmatt: | I'll probably just install the new drive, set up lvm on it, move the stuff across then add the old drive to the array(?) in theory.. |
| [13:10:00] | Tommck: | yeah.. that'll work... unless you're booting from that drive too |
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| [13:11:00] | fatmatt: | lappy drive died on me the other day and I discovered g4u, that little program rocks |
| [13:11:00] | fatmatt: | disk image from a boot cd over the network to an ftp server |
| [13:12:00] | Tommck: | what's g4u? |
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| [13:12:00] | Tommck: | oh. |
| [13:12:00] | Tommck: | but you don't want your boot drive on LVM |
| [13:12:00] | fatmatt: | can you have multiple partitions on the same drive with LVM? |
| [13:12:00] | Tommck: | yeah, I believe so |
| [13:12:00] | Tommck: | I'm using separate drives however |
| [13:13:00] | Tommck: | I have a 27GB boot / root drive... and the 1.2TB is just for Myth |
| [13:13:00] | Tommck: | of course, I need lots of space with the HD cards |
| [13:14:00] | fatmatt: | seems like a waste of space though, smallest drive I've got is 80gb. I've only assigned 10gb to my boot partition |
| [13:14:00] | Tommck: | I think you can add the extra 70GB to the Logical Volume |
| [13:14:00] | Tommck: | I just like the separation.. |
| [13:15:00] | Tommck: | maybe put your root/boot and your music on that drive... and your video on the LVM? |
| [13:15:00] | fatmatt: | used to have an 8gb drive as boot, but thats an old drive, bad sectors |
| [13:15:00] | fatmatt: | yah, something like that sounds good |
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| [13:24:00] | ** Tommck is waiting patiently as his backed compiles plugins ** | |
| [13:29:00] | Tommck: | crap.. didn't help |
| [13:38:00] | Tommck: | so.. umm.. nobody in here who can help with my frontend lockup issues? |
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| [13:57:00] | Tommck: | Do the themes on mythtv.org work in current Myth? (they only talk about version 0.13) |
| [13:59:00] | jams: | Tommck, most of them will work if ui.xml is updated |
| [13:59:00] | Tommck: | so, out of the box, no? |
| [13:59:00] | jams: | the only one's that are going to work out of the box are the ones in cvs |
| [13:59:00] | ** Tommck doesn't have time to learn yet another thing about MythTV :) ** | |
| [13:59:00] | Tommck: | ok |
| [14:00:00] | Tommck: | man... I wish I knew what the heck was going on with my front-end |
| [14:21:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: How many drives do you actually need to accumulate 1.2TB? |
| [14:21:00] | laga: | 5x250gb... |
| [14:23:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – I'm using 4x300GB |
| [14:23:00] | Chacabaou: | Hmm...first thought you just collected as many <80GBs as possible. *g* |
| [14:23:00] | Tommck: | you could do 3x400GB |
| [14:24:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Did put all of them on the mobo's IDE controller? |
| [14:24:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – no.. I bought a controller card. |
| [14:24:00] | Tommck: | I also have 1 27Gb drive and 1 DVD burner on the machine too |
| [14:24:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Plain IDE-Controller, or RAID? |
| [14:24:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou -plain IDE |
| [14:24:00] | Chacabaou: | Ah. |
| [14:25:00] | Chacabaou: | .oO(Need more money... :P) |
| [14:25:00] | Tommck: | real IDE controllers are very expensive |
| [14:25:00] | Chacabaou: | "real"? |
| [14:25:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – most RAID controllers sold nowadays are not really RAID controllers... they require software to function. |
| [14:26:00] | Tommck: | a "real" RAID controller would appear like a hard drive to the OS |
| [14:26:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Yep...but at least it's not only software-RAID. |
| [14:26:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – software RAID performs about the same. |
| [14:26:00] | Chacabaou: | Really? |
| [14:26:00] | Tommck: | I actually have a SATA RAID controller on my file server with the RAID disabled... :) |
| [14:27:00] | Tommck: | I just use it as an IO card :) |
| [14:27:00] | Tommck: | that's why it's not really useful to use the cheap RAID controllers |
| [14:27:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: So you actually need a quite expensive 'real' RAID controller to get something that's faster than plain software RAID? |
| [14:27:00] | Tommck: | yes |
| [14:27:00] | Chacabaou: | Good to know... |
| [14:28:00] | Chacabaou: | Is software RAID generally a bad idea, then? |
| [14:28:00] | Tommck: | I don't think so. |
| [14:28:00] | Tommck: | I just didn't want to use it |
| [14:28:00] | Chacabaou: | Or would it be useful to get some redundancy at nearly same speed, at least? |
| [14:29:00] | Tommck: | I guess so, but, to me, the redundancy is not worth it (if you mean RAID-1) |
| [14:29:00] | Tommck: | I am actually doing RAID-1 on my file server and I'm thinking about dropping it |
| [14:29:00] | Tommck: | because I _also_ am doing an 'rsync' of the drive over the network every night |
| [14:29:00] | ** Chacabaou always forgets the meanings of RAID-$no... ** | |
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| [14:30:00] | Tommck: | well, RAID-1 is mirroring one drive to another |
| [14:30:00] | Tommck: | (thus wasting a whole drive) |
| [14:30:00] | Chacabaou: | That's what I meant... |
| [14:30:00] | Tommck: | for a home user, I think nightly backups is pretty extreme, so RAID-1 is overkill to me. |
| [14:31:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: For good backup (not only data security), something like rsnapshot is probably the best idea, since it also protects you from accidental deleting. |
| [14:31:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – so can rsync |
| [14:31:00] | Tommck: | I have it preserving files on delete |
| [14:32:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: rsnapshot is using rsync. rocks ass. :) |
| [14:32:00] | jhs_s: | Chacabaou: I saw a test recently: Linux Software RAID vs. IDE-RAID: Linux was at least as fast as the controller. |
| [14:32:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: But on the other hand...I just could not backup _all_ of my files. Incremental backups would take too much space for a whole /. |
| [14:32:00] | Chacabaou: | jhs_s: :) |
| [14:33:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – why not? If you're going to use a whole drive that's the same size (RAID-1), what's the difference? |
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| [14:34:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Incremental backups need more space. |
| [14:34:00] | Chacabaou: | (I mean incremental AND with 'version' history) |
| [14:34:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – right, but it depends on how often you were updating... I wouldn't backup once and then never baseline the backup.. |
| [14:34:00] | Tommck: | if you do incrementals for a whole year, sure. |
| [14:35:00] | Tommck: | but, in order for incrementals to take up more space than the drive, you need to have the drive nearly full AND make lots of modifications to files every day |
| [14:35:00] | Tommck: | I'd say full backup once per week and incrementals every day... that shouldn't really take up much more space |
| [14:35:00] | Tommck: | (I'm speaking about home use) |
| [14:36:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: rsnapshots does a whole backup every time by using the old files that haven't changed and hardlinking to them. Therefore I got versions for every passing hour/day/week/month/year, and only need additional space for the changed files. |
| [14:37:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: I DO make lots of modifications to files in /, since I use Gentoo. ;) |
| [14:37:00] | Tommck: | right, but, at what point do you consolidate that? It's useless to keep daily backups for 2 years... |
| [14:37:00] | Tommck: | who needs to go back to the backup from July 23rd last year? |
| [14:38:00] | Tommck: | You have to re-baseline your backups eventually |
| [14:38:00] | Tommck: | otherwise, rebuilding your machine would take decades |
| [14:39:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Sure. Atm, I have 12 backups for the last 24h, 7 backups for the last week, 4 backups for the last month, and one for every other month. Very much, I know. But these are only very important files. |
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| [14:39:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – you should check out LVM snapshots |
| [14:41:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Yep, these are actually they same. Apart from my backups being stored on another machine. |
| [14:41:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – doesn't a hard-link copy the file? |
| [14:41:00] | Chacabaou: | ...and don't get lost on reboot. ;) |
| [14:41:00] | Tommck: | LVM snapshots don't get lost on reboot either AFAIK |
| [14:41:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: It backups the whole directory _once_, and links to that backup on every next backup. |
| [14:42:00] | Tommck: | ln -h doesn't take any space? |
| [14:42:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: AFAIK they do...the last time I read about. |
| [14:42:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Just a few bytes. |
| [14:42:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Hardlinks are nothing more than one more location noted down in the inode. No new inode. |
| [14:42:00] | Chacabaou: | http://www.rsnapshot.org/ |
| [14:43:00] | Tommck: | on... why have softlinks and hard links then? |
| [14:43:00] | Chacabaou: | ? |
| [14:43:00] | Tommck: | what's the difference? |
| [14:43:00] | Chacabaou: | Rephrase your question, please. ;) |
| [14:43:00] | Tommck: | you're right.. LVM snapshots disappear on reboot |
| [14:44:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Softlinks are files that say "actually, I'm not $myself, but $linktarget". Hardlinks can't be distinguished by they original. |
| [14:45:00] | Tommck: | I know that part... |
| [14:45:00] | Chacabaou: | :) So what's your point? |
| [14:45:00] | Tommck: | What is the point in having both types of links? |
| [14:46:00] | Chacabaou: | rsnapshot only uses hardlinks. (?) |
| [14:46:00] | Tommck: | what's the point in the OS having 2 kinds of links? |
| [14:46:00] | Chacabaou: | They're both useful. :) |
| [14:47:00] | Tommck: | you're being vague. |
| [14:47:00] | Tommck: | I'm trying to determine why you would want to use one over the other... what is the advantage? |
| [14:47:00] | Chacabaou: | Actually, I can't tell you exactly, because I'm not an expert. |
| [14:48:00] | Tommck: | ln -s supports going across file systems for one (reading as we chat) |
| [14:48:00] | Tommck: | hard links are only on the same disk |
| [14:48:00] | Chacabaou: | One advantage... |
| [14:48:00] | Tommck: | oh well.. anyway.. I need to figure out why my front end is completely f*cked |
| [14:49:00] | vile_maxim: | Anyone up from troubleshooting lirc madness :) |
| [14:49:00] | Tommck: | I don't use lirc.. |
| [14:49:00] | vile_maxim: | :/ |
| [14:49:00] | Tommck: | infrared keyboard + universal remote = no need to mess with lirc :) |
| [14:50:00] | vile_maxim: | Tommck, universal remote? how so |
| [14:50:00] | vile_maxim: | get the remove to send keyboard stroks? |
| [14:50:00] | Tommck: | vile – if your keyboard's infrared, you can just learn the keystrokes with your universal (programmable) remote |
| [14:50:00] | Tommck: | exactly! |
| [14:50:00] | Tommck: | my keyboard was < US$20 |
| [14:50:00] | vile_maxim: | gotcha.... |
| [14:50:00] | vile_maxim: | that helps |
| [14:51:00] | Tommck: | yeah.. it's awesome |
| [14:51:00] | vile_maxim: | because a full keyboard is handy anyway |
| [14:51:00] | Tommck: | yeah... I use it occasionally when things are screwed up |
| [14:51:00] | vile_maxim: | I was tryig to finnish the mythtv project of mine before mother's day :) |
| [14:52:00] | Tommck: | Here's my blog entry about the keyboard: http://mymythsaga.blogspot.com/2005/02/perfec . . . end-box.html |
| [14:52:00] | vile_maxim: | Tommck, thanks |
| [14:52:00] | Chacabaou: | You really need a keyboard for your Frontend? |
| [14:52:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – when it crashes... if I forgot to program a button... not in normal operations |
| [14:53:00] | opello: | i prefer a keyboard for mine too — i got a similar one (acer airkey on ebay) |
| [14:53:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: I got a button that does `killall mythfrontend`. :) |
| [14:53:00] | Tommck: | yeah... who the heck wants to deal with lirc? |
| [14:53:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – ahh :) |
| [14:54:00] | Tommck: | I could probably do that by macro-ing "alt-tab & Ctrl-C" :) |
| [14:54:00] | Chacabaou: | In fact, LIRC is quite good. Since I understood that "mode"-issue, I even have only one remote that acts both for mythtv and bmp, in two switchable modes. |
| [14:54:00] | vile_maxim: | I've been trying to deal with it for a few days now. I think I'll kill someone soon. Tommck, you may have saved a life... |
| [14:55:00] | Tommck: | vile_maxim - :) |
| [14:55:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – bmp? |
| [14:55:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: beep-media-player. Like xmms, but better. ;) |
| [14:55:00] | Tommck: | oh. I just use MythMusic on the front end |
| [14:55:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Will be replaced by amaroK, soon... |
| [14:56:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: My TV stands in the opposite corner of my workstation. I just can't control MythMusic while using the computer. ;) |
| [14:57:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – use VNC |
| [14:57:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Inside _one_ X-Server? |
| [14:58:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: I would have to run a vncviewer on :0.2 to control :0.4. Don't suppose that to work. |
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| [14:59:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – it's the same machine? |
| [14:59:00] | Chacabaou: | Yep. |
| [15:00:00] | Tommck: | then why use a remote for the music? |
| [15:00:00] | Chacabaou: | Hmmm. I could put a second TV onto my desk and just copy the signal. :) |
| [15:00:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Because I don't want to get up from my bed to skip songs. |
| [15:00:00] | Tommck: | why a 2nd TV? |
| [15:00:00] | Tommck: | oh. |
| [15:01:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: To have a second screen that displays my frontend. |
| [15:01:00] | Tommck: | anyway.. different usage for different people :) |
| [15:01:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: As said... I can't see my frontend while using my other monitors. |
| [15:01:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – I"m saying that you're on the machine right here, so run bmp from your desktop and use your mouse |
| [15:02:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: That's what I do. Additionally I control bmp with my remote. That's why I can't use MythMusic. |
| [15:03:00] | Tommck: | right |
| [15:03:00] | Tommck: | I still think vnc would work for you :) |
| [15:03:00] | Tommck: | just in the right configuratoin |
| [15:03:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: If I could connect to my own screen... dunno. |
| [15:04:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [15:04:00] | Tommck: | it's a different desktop, I'd be surprised if it doesn't work |
| [15:04:00] | Chacabaou: | It's the same machine and the same X. |
| [15:04:00] | Tommck: | yep |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | but VNC on Linux is desktop-based |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | $ vncviewer machine:0.4 |
| [15:05:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: There's no "desktop". Do you mean display? |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | that's what I meant |
| [15:07:00] | Chacabaou: | Hmmm. X might get confused, if focusses and mouse clicks occure on a window that's actually not the active window (which is vncviewer). |
| [15:07:00] | Tommck: | I don't see how |
| [15:07:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Running vncviewer machine:0.4 on :1.0 works for sure. But running vncviewer machine:0.4 on :0.2? |
| [15:07:00] | Tommck: | who knows. |
| [15:07:00] | Tommck: | I don't know. |
| [15:08:00] | Tommck: | just use voice control and microphones... that'll work better :) |
| [15:08:00] | Chacabaou: | Sure. ;) |
| [15:08:00] | Chacabaou: | Especially when listening to music, it is wise to have voice control. :P |
| [15:08:00] | Tommck: | anyway, I need to pay someone to come over here and figure out what the hell's wrong with my front-end box |
| [15:09:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – you need an "attention phrase" for the computer to start listening |
| [15:09:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: At first, I need to scream that phrase quite loud, if I want to computer to hear it while playing my music. |
| [15:10:00] | Tommck: | if you listen to a lot of Snoop Dogg and "shizzle" is your "attention phrase", it might be a bad idea |
| [15:10:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – it's all about microphone placement |
| [15:10:00] | Tommck: | you won't be able to shout across a room while music's playing. |
| [15:10:00] | Tommck: | you need a bunch of microphones installed in the likely places you'll be when you need to change things |
| [15:12:00] | ** Tommck has been researching this for his house ** | |
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| [15:34:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm pretty sure i'm gonna need a new antenna |
| [15:34:00] | man_in_shack: | any suggestions? |
| [15:35:00] | man_in_shack: | i'd consider running a cable to the house's antenna, but that's not exactly a viable option |
| [15:36:00] | Tommck: | why isn't that an option? |
| [15:37:00] | man_in_shack: | cos the cables would either be exposed, running through walls and exposed, or going through a brick wall and concealed |
| [15:37:00] | Tommck: | where are you in the house? |
| [15:37:00] | man_in_shack: | on the wrong side of a brick wall |
| [15:38:00] | man_in_shack: | we extended the house about 12 years ago or so |
| [15:38:00] | Tommck: | basement? attic? |
| [15:38:00] | man_in_shack: | no |
| [15:38:00] | Tommck: | I'm trying to get an idea of where IN THE HOUSE your Myth box is |
| [15:39:00] | man_in_shack: | it's not easy to picture this house |
| [15:39:00] | Tommck: | top floor? |
| [15:39:00] | Tommck: | bottom floor? |
| [15:39:00] | man_in_shack: | it's on a hill. there's 2 stories at the back and 1 at the front |
| [15:39:00] | man_in_shack: | the top floor is level |
| [15:39:00] | Tommck: | AND WHERE IS YOUR MYTH BOX? |
| [15:39:00] | stoffel: | hehe |
| [15:39:00] | man_in_shack: | top floor |
| [15:40:00] | ** Tommck gets his pliers to pull his teeth ** | |
| [15:40:00] | man_in_shack: | just the wrong side of the extension |
| [15:40:00] | Tommck: | well, external antennas are always a better idea. |
| [15:40:00] | jemarcks: | whats the difference between mytht-0.18–107 and mythtv-0.18–107? |
| [15:40:00] | Tommck: | the higher you are the better.. |
| [15:40:00] | man_in_shack: | atm mythtv isn't doing anything useful for me. i'm using scan and xine |
| [15:40:00] | Tommck: | jemarcks – huh? |
| [15:40:00] | man_in_shack: | Tommck, i'm as high as i'm gonna get |
| [15:41:00] | man_in_shack: | jemarcks, one's a typo and the other isn't? |
| [15:41:00] | Tommck: | man_in_shack – well, stop smoking and concentrate ;) |
| [15:41:00] | jemarcks: | tommck, i have mythtv-0.18–107 installed and there is mythtv-0.18–107 available on ATrpms. |
| [15:41:00] | man_in_shack: | i don't smoke |
| [15:41:00] | Tommck: | jemarcks – is this a trick question? |
| [15:41:00] | jemarcks: | no, silly |
| [15:42:00] | jemarcks: | try it |
| [15:42:00] | Tommck: | man_in_shack – it was a joke... (you said you're as high as you're going to get) |
| [15:42:00] | Tommck: | jemarcks – what's the difference between 3 and 3? |
| [15:42:00] | man_in_shack: | Tommck, i know |
| [15:42:00] | jemarcks: | whats the difference between mythtv-0.18–107 and mythtv-0.18–107? |
| [15:42:00] | jemarcks: | no, 107 an d108 |
| [15:42:00] | ** Tommck slaps jemarcks ** | |
| [15:42:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [15:43:00] | jemarcks: | ? |
| [15:43:00] | Tommck: | jemarcks – you kept asking what the difference between a version of myth and itself was :) |
| [15:43:00] | jemarcks: | did not! ;) |
| [15:43:00] | jemarcks: | one was 107 and one was 108 |
| [15:43:00] | Tommck: | jemarcks – I have no idea what the differences are... that's why there are "dev" and "commits" mailing lists :) |
| [15:43:00] | man_in_shack: | jemarcks, scroll up |
| [15:44:00] | jemarcks: | ah.. ok |
| [15:44:00] | Tommck: | jemarcks – you did it 3 times :) |
| [15:44:00] | jemarcks: | well, im new to myth so go easy on me. |
| [15:44:00] | jemarcks: | lots to learn |
| [15:44:00] | man_in_shack: | jemarcks, sounds like you're also new to versions |
| [15:45:00] | jemarcks: | i have it working on svideo with good audio :D |
| [15:46:00] | man_in_shack: | anyways ... |
| [15:46:00] | man_in_shack: | anyone have a suggestion for an indoor antenna? |
| [15:47:00] | jemarcks: | Au foil? |
| [15:47:00] | man_in_shack: | au? |
| [15:47:00] | Tommck: | man_in_shack – in the US? |
| [15:47:00] | man_in_shack: | Tommck, i'm in australia |
| [15:48:00] | Tommck: | man_in_shack – no idea... I have only shopped for HD antennas and, apparently, that's a US-only thing |
| [15:49:00] | man_in_shack: | hah |
| [15:49:00] | jemarcks: | oops.. i meant to say Al. Not Au |
| [15:49:00] | man_in_shack: | Tommck, well over here, all you need is a vhf/uhf antenna |
| [15:50:00] | Tommck: | man_in_shack – right. |
| [15:50:00] | man_in_shack: | only need vhf in some areas |
| [15:53:00] | man_in_shack: | where i am now, i only need uhf |
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| [16:22:00] | Tommck: | ls |
| [16:25:00] | Tommck: | :) |
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| [16:37:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: What's the best way to assign keys to the Niveus remote? I'd like the menu button to put out an "m" so that it'll bring up the onscreen menu in mythtv. However, I don't know anything about programming kernel modules, so I'm having a bit of confusion following along here in the code. |
| [16:39:00] | flindet_: | it seems like there's a pointer to "dev" that might holding the mappings, but I don't know where that's defined |
| [16:39:00] | flindet_: | or if I'm even supposed to be messing with it for that matter (probably not) |
| [16:40:00] | flindet_: | maybe I'm just supposed to modify KIND_FILTERED? |
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| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet_: Well, if you are using my version fo the ati_remote it already has 'm' mapped to thye Menu key :P) |
| [16:41:00] | flindet_: | oh, I *thought* I was using your version |
| [16:41:00] | flindet_: | hmm |
| [16:42:00] | flindet_: | let me do a sanity check here. Maybe my problem is something else |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you are using the modified version it should have my name in the comments at the top |
| [16:43:00] | flindet_: | My menu is putting out a ' |
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| [16:43:00] | flindet_: | I'm using version 2.2.3 from dec 2004 |
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| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | do a |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | 'modinfo ati_remote' |
| [16:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | does it show a lolatype parameter ? |
| [16:44:00] | flindet_: | It doesn't have greyfoxx, but it does have what might be your real name, I don't know. |
| [16:44:00] | flindet_: | Yes |
| [16:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Greg Estabrooks |
| [16:44:00] | flindet_: | yeah, if you're Greg, then I have your's |
| [16:44:00] | flindet_: | Thanks, by the way, it rocks |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet_: When you load the module you have to be sure to set lolatype=1 |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | so modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1 |
| [16:45:00] | flindet_: | yeah, I do |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then that should do it |
| [16:45:00] | flindet_: | most of the keys work great. For some reason my menu is off. |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | {KIND_FILTERED, 0xb6, 0x49, EV_KEY, KEY_M, 1}, /* Menu Button */ |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's the one |
| [16:46:00] | flindet_: | yeah, it looks like I might have an older version. My source is different |
| [16:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Could be |
| [16:46:00] | flindet_: | I only have one Menu Button entry and it's for an apostrophe |
| [16:47:00] | flindet_: | I'm sorry to be a pain in the neck |
| [16:47:00] | flindet_: | You don't happen to have your source up on the web somewhere, do you? |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I cleaned up the key maps section and added comments so that you can tell which matches which button |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | np |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | said the URL :) |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | <GreyFoxx> www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [16:47:00] | flindet_: | oh, sorry, I'm blind! |
| [16:47:00] | flindet_: | Thanks!! |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep meaning to make changes so that you can use an external file for the keymaps, but I keep getting distracted |
| [16:48:00] | flindet_: | This remote rocks. Thank you SO much for putting the module together. |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | which easy since it already does exactly what I want :) |
| [16:48:00] | flindet_: | Yeah, well, we're all busy, I'm sure. |
| [16:48:00] | flindet_: | Yeah, I hear ya. |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet_: I just modified it to support the onebox/niveus remotes and setup the keymaps for myth. Someone from the gatos project wrote the original :) |
| [16:49:00] | flindet_: | yeah, I understand, but it would have taken me forever to figure out how to do that. hahaha... So, I'm very happy that you did. |
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| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh My daughter is passed out on the floor next to me. Tired from swimming :) |
| [16:50:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [16:54:00] | ** laga is tired from staying up late and playing freelancer ** | |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | such a nice game. it's published by MS, though |
| [16:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | MS is not evil. |
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| [16:57:00] | laga: | i didnt say that. |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some people think so |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Personally, I don't like many of their products or business practices |
| [16:57:00] | laga: | its just that it needs an OS that i dont like. |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I hardly hate them :) |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [16:57:00] | laga: | well. i hate windows xp. |
| [16:57:00] | dhofstra: | heh, 'microsoft is not evil' = MINE |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only box in this house that run windows is my GF's desktop and her laptop :) |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | i started it yesterday because i wanted to play freelancer and it made me mad immediately. |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | win2k is much better. |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I agree |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't like the FisherPrice look of Xp's default setup |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | i wonder where that switch was...i want freelancer.exe as my login shell in windows. |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | so when I gotta use it I switch to classic |
| [16:59:00] | laga: | yep. like teletubbies on acid |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Teletubbies is a forbidden word in this house :) |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | good for your kids |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | and for your brain ;) |
| [17:00:00] | rjune: | laga: only if you're using them for target practice |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | then you get firearm safety training too |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | heheh |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | nice |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | ? you guys laugh as if you thought I was joking |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, no guns or teletubbies in this house heh |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | Barney and Teletubbies both |
| [17:02:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: well, there we disagree. :-) |
| [17:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not a statement of opinion. It's a fact. There are none, nor will there be in my house. Of either :) |
| [17:02:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: ok. |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Paintball guns maybe, but that's it heh |
| [17:03:00] | rjune: | I will always have one of them in the house. to defend me from the other. :-D |
| [17:03:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: why? because they aren't deadly? |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | paintball rocks. |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: no, anything is deadly, I could kill someone with a butter knife |
| [17:03:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: indeed. |
| [17:04:00] | rjune: | so why the ban on firearms? |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause I don't trust myself, let alone anyeone else with one |
| [17:04:00] | rjune: | ? |
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| [17:04:00] | rjune: | I'm probably not going to follow the logic on that one. |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it was up to me pretty much noone would have guns |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Obviously now we are into the opinion stage heh |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: yup. and yours is wrong. :-) |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I feel the same about yours :) |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | everyone should know how to properly use a firearm |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | you sound like RMS |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Proper training in the use of a gun, is not nearly the same as owning one :) |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | to quote the simpsons, guns are to keep the king of england out of our face |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: I'm not gonna force you to own one. but I will force you to not take away my right to. |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: You can't force me to do shit, nor can I force you to do anything. I don't live in your country, nor am I subject to your laws :) |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | he could take over canada with his gun! |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | laga: naa, they're too well armed |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | "NRA to take over canada" |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | unfortunatley people will try to kill each other. |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | you gonna ban knives and swords too? |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | or hammers? |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: If they were used in as many deaths I might heh |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: ban cars |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | they are used in more deaths then guns |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or fuck it, let every single man woman and child carry around a personaly nuclear device |
| [17:10:00] | rjune: | hell, IIRC, drunk driving accounts for more deaths then guns |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | "cause then noone will mess with anyone" |
| [17:10:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: an armed society is a polite society. |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | drunk driving is banned, too. |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: No, an armed society is a scared and paranoid society who are afraid of "the other guy" |
| [17:10:00] | rjune: | laga: and see how effective that is. |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | o_O |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | arguing on irc is like the special olympics... |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | hahaha |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | too bad all cars can't just sense the alchohol level and not work for drukn people |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | .oO(..i coudl extend that to "arguing on irc over guns with a gun nut is...) |
| [17:11:00] | flindet_: | new ati_remote.c works great. Thanks for the help, GreyFoxx |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: but then the politicians couldn't drive |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | laga: bah |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet_: have fun |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | I'm not a gun nut. |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: wouldn't bother me :) |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | I have a very reasonable outlook on it. |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: me neither. but that's why it won't happen. :-) |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's like hunting. While I think in todays world it's generally unneeded I have no problem with someone hunting (Assuming they eat it) who don't take too much. But wont find me doing it anytime soon. Let alone calling it a sport |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Assuming of course the person has proper firearm training :) |
| [17:17:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: agreed on the hunting bit |
| [17:17:00] | ** rjune no likey venison ** | |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [17:17:00] | ** laga prefers hunting with dynamite ** | |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | it's..efficient. |
| [17:17:00] | rjune: | the primary reason I have a firearm is because it was my fathers. |
| [17:17:00] | rjune: | laga: yeah, it get's killed, cut, and cooked all at once. |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [17:19:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: though my dad put it right. the only way you can call hunting a sport is if you use a knife, drop down from the tree and run it down. |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | sounds like fun, too. |
| [17:23:00] | rjune: | :-) |
| [17:24:00] | rjune: | yay. copying data to a new harddrive |
| [17:25:00] | rjune: | going from 20GB to 80GB |
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| [18:01:00] | jemarcks: | hehe |
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| [18:15:00] | Reepicheep: | when using mythbrowser it is like the alt key is alwaysed pushed.. |
| [18:15:00] | Reepicheep: | everytime I type "m" the menu comes up |
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| [18:16:00] | Reepicheep: | has anyone else seen that.. it is happinging on two differerent frontends both running v 0.18? |
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| [18:31:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | Beirdo: well, I made *some* progress. |
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| [18:43:00] | xris: | ok, anyone want to help me figure out why lirc is wigging out on me? |
| [18:44:00] | mace: | hi – i'm attempting to set up a pvr350 with ntl in the uk, but i'm struggling with getting the settings right – livetv, for instance, gives a blank screen, and xsession errors lists lots of warnings/errors including RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read() |
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| [18:49:00] | xris: | dopester: you around? |
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| [18:57:00] | ** xris kicks lirc ** | |
| [19:03:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Trouble with access the device-files? |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | sort of. keeps crashing |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | I'm down to two problems, though. unfortunately, both major. |
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| [19:08:00] | xris: | Chacabaou: you have any experience with "trouble with access to the device files"? |
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| [19:24:00] | xris: | hmm, well, I think I may have finally gotten an lirc install that doesn't crash. |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | but it's not working, either. |
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| [19:28:00] | foxhunt: | hello i wandered is are some way to make a kind of blacklist of programs not to record |
| [19:28:00] | foxhunt: | is there some way |
| [19:29:00] | foxhunt: | i used search based recordings need to manual remove some programs from de recording list |
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| [19:32:00] | vicodan: | when i run mythsetup for the first time every runs fine |
| [19:32:00] | vicodan: | but when i re-run mythsetup i dont get any response from the app |
| [19:33:00] | vicodan: | and my cards, input connections, themes, etc are all named '0' |
| [19:33:00] | jhs_s: | vicodan: console output? |
| [19:34:00] | vicodan: | just "QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range" about 10 times |
| [19:35:00] | vicodan: | the only way i can get it to run again is to drop the database and recreate it |
| [19:36:00] | jhs_s: | Maybe some kind of database problem... |
| [19:37:00] | vicodan: | everything seems right |
| [19:37:00] | jhs_s: | Did you run in from the same user account as before? |
| [19:39:00] | vicodan: | yeah im doing this all as root...ive also changed /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt to use both the mythtv and root user to connect but no go |
| [19:40:00] | jhs_s: | Does it crash on startup or later? |
| [19:41:00] | vicodan: | it never crashes while running as root..just displays the main config page and then i cant do anything |
| [19:41:00] | vicodan: | if i 'su mythtv' and run mythsetup it says "Could not find theme: 0" and goes back to the cmd prompt |
| [19:42:00] | jhs_s: | It still seems to be that something with you db is not ok but I have no clue what |
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| [19:45:00] | mace: | is there a guide to configuring myth with a pvr350? |
| [19:45:00] | jhs_s: | mace: Yes, even at mythtv.org and some more |
| [19:45:00] | mace: | tried that |
| [19:46:00] | mace: | i've been searching for days and failed to work out why i'm not getting livetv |
| [19:46:00] | jhs_s: | What happens if you click on livetv? |
| [19:47:00] | mace: | did you see my earlier comment, or should i repaste it? |
| [19:47:00] | jhs_s: | no have found it.. |
| [19:47:00] | mace: | ok |
| [19:47:00] | jhs_s: | are you using the pvr350 tv-out? |
| [19:47:00] | mace: | yeah |
| [19:48:00] | jhs_s: | Does it work without? |
| [19:48:00] | mace: | don't know, i don't have a video card |
| [19:48:00] | mace: | pvr350 itself definitely works for tv out, i've done the dd checks and stuff |
| [19:49:00] | jhs_s: | You have the use pvr 350 tv-out button enabled? |
| [19:50:00] | mace: | er, i've not seen that button |
| [19:50:00] | mace: | where is that in the menu? |
| [19:50:00] | jhs_s: | mainmenu->config->tv->output or something like that (sorry, only de local here...) |
| [19:51:00] | jhs_s: | maybe playback instead of output... |
| [19:53:00] | mace: | got it, ta |
| [19:54:00] | mace: | right i'll try livetv again |
| [19:54:00] | mace: | ok still getting a black window, and the errors |
| [19:54:00] | mace: | want me to paste a couple? |
| [19:55:00] | jhs_s: | if it's not too much |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | i'll remove dupes |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | Using protocol version 14 |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | LiveTV not successfully started |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | Changing from None to None |
| [19:55:00] | mace: | then it basically repeats |
| [19:56:00] | mace: | it does that every few seconds |
| [19:56:00] | mace: | actually probably faster |
| [19:56:00] | jhs_s: | I assume you have write-access to /var/cache/mythtv! |
| [19:57:00] | mace: | yep |
| [19:57:00] | jhs_s: | Does ringbuf1.nuv exist? |
| [19:57:00] | mace: | nope, the directory is empty |
| [19:57:00] | ** xris kicks lirc ** | |
| [19:57:00] | jhs_s: | Anything in /var/log/messages (from ivtv)? |
| [19:57:00] | ** jhs_s loves lirc ** | |
| [19:58:00] | mace: | jhs_s: only that it's opening and closing the device |
| [19:59:00] | mace: | jhs_s: hm interesting, just found the backend log file, it's complaining about being unable to open /dev/dsp – could that cause this to happen? |
| [19:59:00] | mace: | (i don't have a sound card either) |
| [20:00:00] | jhs_s: | mace: Could be part of the problem but I don't know. I think you can disable the sound output in the setup because the pvr takes care of it but not sure. I only have a pvr 250 myself. |
| [20:01:00] | mace: | i'll see if i can work out how to disable sound |
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| [20:10:00] | mace: | jhs_s: are you in a position to talk me through your pvr250 setup? |
| [20:10:00] | mace: | at least then i can be sure my encoding settings are right |
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| [20:17:00] | jhs_s: | I can only tell you from memory but I set it up yesterday... |
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| [20:21:00] | mace: | jhs_s: would it be easier to ask you via pm to avoid cluttering the channel? |
| [20:21:00] | jhs_s: | mace: maybe |
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| [20:28:00] | xris: | omg, it finally works. |
| [20:28:00] | xris: | now to figure out why the sound is broken |
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| [20:29:00] | MiX-MaN: | whats the sound doing? |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | it's not. |
| [20:29:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [20:29:00] | MiX-MaN: | does it work on live tv? |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | something's messed, I think it's a driver issue. I'm getting "tuner" audio (none) on svideo, and line-in audio on tuner (no video) |
| [20:29:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [20:29:00] | MiX-MaN: | wierd |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | very |
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| [20:30:00] | xris: | hmm, not good. atrpms is down. |
| [20:30:00] | MiX-MaN: | is there a slackpack for myth ? |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | MiX-MaN: ask GreyFoxx about slackware stuff |
| [20:30:00] | philj: | Does anyone know what key to use to cycle through the visualizations in mythmusic ? |
| [20:30:00] | MiX-MaN: | im using this kynoppmyth crap right now |
| [20:30:00] | MiX-MaN: | and wanna get rid of it |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | philj: not in keys.txt? |
| [20:31:00] | philj: | no, not my copy! |
| [20:31:00] | MiX-MaN: | GreyFoxx: you in? :) |
| [20:31:00] | philj: | only lists mythtv keys |
| [20:32:00] | MiX-MaN: | philj: i think it is a number key |
| [20:32:00] | MiX-MaN: | do what i do.. hit every key till you find out witch one it is :) |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | lol |
| [20:33:00] | ** xris admits that he does that, too ** | |
| [20:33:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | great. atrpms is down. |
| [20:33:00] | philj: | thanks will try that! |
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| [20:37:00] | indesse1: | After transcoding videos to mpeg, I can no longer skip through recorded shows (both channel skip and regular ff/rewind are broken). They either always skip to the same part in the show (usually about 20 minutes into the show) and won't let me go forward or backwards from there, or they just cause mythtv to hang. Any ideas? |
| [20:37:00] | indesse1: | (Skipping and channel skipping work fine for shows I record that I don't transcode afterwards.) |
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| [20:44:00] | dopester: | xris: i am briefly now |
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| [20:45:00] | xris: | getting weird "dvb timeout" messages when trying to watch on my air2pc |
| [20:45:00] | xris: | any ideas? |
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| [20:47:00] | xris: | but actually, I was mainly wondering if you knew of a non-myth program to tune atsc channels so that I can make sure the card itself is working properly, etc. |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | anyway, afk for a bit |
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| [21:21:00] | MiX-MaN: | anyone else have a problem of huge log files? |
| [21:21:00] | MiX-MaN: | like in upwards of 100 megs over a few days time |
| [21:29:00] | GeckoFiend: | xris the HTDTV3k guys had a modified version of xine that'll tune to HD channels |
| [21:29:00] | xris: | interesting. |
| [21:29:00] | xris: | well, I think I actually got it working. only one channel, and it's all skippy and will only tune one channel (remote frontend shouldn't make a diff, though) |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | still having pvr-150 issues, which I want to fix first. |
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| [21:34:00] | xris: | crap. still no sound |
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| [21:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | would this message be related to my lockup problems? |
| [21:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | May 7 06:20:58 mtv1 kernel: bttv0: SCERR @ 0be9f014,bits: OFLOW FDSR SCERR* |
| [21:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | i see that every now and thin right before a reboot... in the logs |
| [21:39:00] | MiX-MaN: | cant figure out why all of a sudden it started locking up... friend tried to record a while bunch of "MASH" epis... once i deleted them all is when it started locking up |
| [21:39:00] | MiX-MaN: | guess it doesent like mash |
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| [22:08:00] | MiX-MaN: | ahh ha |
| [22:08:00] | MiX-MaN: | i think its the powersupply causing this madness |
| [22:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | the PSU fan is hardly spinning |
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| [22:17:00] | poonj: | hey guys..is there such thing as a modprobe.conf in debian? |
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| [22:18:00] | vicodan: | my mythtv-setup .18 cant connect to the database |
| [22:18:00] | vicodan: | its looking for libmysqlclient.so.12 but I have libmysqlclient.so.14 |
| [22:18:00] | vicodan: | if i symlink it to libmysqlclient.so.14 it connects but wont talk to the database correctly |
| [22:18:00] | vicodan: | anyone seen that? |
| [22:25:00] | poonj: | hey guys.. |
| [22:25:00] | poonj: | I was watching live-tv... |
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| [22:25:00] | poonj: | but then in the middle of it, I get an error |
| [22:25:00] | poonj: | in the console, it says remote encoder not responding |
| [22:25:00] | poonj: | what does that mean? |
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| [22:36:00] | MiX-MaN: | the remote encoder is'nt responding :) |
| [22:36:00] | MiX-MaN: | do you have seperate back/front ends? |
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| [22:43:00] | poonj: | no |
| [22:43:00] | poonj: | its all on the same box.. |
| [22:43:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm |
| [22:43:00] | MiX-MaN: | well i dont know if this will work for you or not but |
| [22:43:00] | MiX-MaN: | on my system it did something like that... but what happen was the nic cable came out |
| [22:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | and gave me similer errors |
| [22:44:00] | poonj: | nic cable?1 |
| [22:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | even though it was running on the same box |
| [22:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | network cable |
| [22:44:00] | poonj: | what would that have to do with anything? |
| [22:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | no clue |
| [22:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | but i pluged it back in and it worked |
| [22:45:00] | MiX-MaN: | or could mean your cap card is'nt makeing good contact to the mobo |
| [22:46:00] | poonj: | it works for like 10 seconds |
| [22:46:00] | poonj: | then the video craps out and gives me an error |
| [22:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | but myself i always relate probs to hardware :/ just how i am |
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| [22:47:00] | poonj: | let me reboot |
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| [22:57:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [22:57:00] | poonj: | I don't get whats wrong |
| [23:01:00] | Toast: | I have just upgraded my aerial leading to a noticable improvement in my analogue picture quality, but I still only get 17% in the signal bar in MythTV's channel scanner. It seems to stay the same when I make large changes (very noticable on the analogue signal) to the direction. If I point the aerial completly the wrong way, or tune into the wrong channel, I get a lower signal strength. |
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| [23:01:00] | Toast: | My local transmitter transmits both analogue and digital. Is there any known problem with the signal strength readout on DBV cards? |
| [23:02:00] | Toast: | I have a WinTV Nova-T and I am running the latest Knoppmyth. |
| [23:02:00] | Ecct: | hey my program guide is an hour behind, can someone tell me how to bump it up so the shows come on the right time? |
| [23:04:00] | poonj: | hey guys..where do I enter the password for mysql access for mythtv? |
| [23:04:00] | bobc: | poonj: in .mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [23:05:00] | bobc: | at least that is where it is for a compiled version – packaged version might put it somewhere else for all I know |
| [23:06:00] | bobc: | poonj: for clarification, that's ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [23:07:00] | poonj: | Desired program #65535 not found in PAT. Substituting program #3 |
| [23:07:00] | poonj: | I'm getting that in mythbackend |
| [23:07:00] | poonj: | for some reason.. |
| [23:07:00] | poonj: | I can watch tv for 10 seconds...but I can't change the channels |
| [23:07:00] | poonj: | and it says my remote encoder is not responding |
| [23:08:00] | Ecct: | man this is drivin me nuts... the time is correct on the screen, but the program guide is off by an hour. |
| [23:09:00] | flindet_: | anyone here use albumart? |
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| [23:22:00] | poonj: | anyone here know what could be the problem? |
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| [23:27:00] | Toast: | Could someone point me to a channel – frequency list for UK DVB please? I want to check my frequency settings. |
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| [23:29:00] | flindet_: | poonj, I was getting that problem. In my case my vbi wasn't set in my capturecard table |
| [23:29:00] | flindet_: | it also seemed to help to update my ivtv driver to 3.3 (I'm using tv-out on a pvr-350) |
| [23:30:00] | flindet_: | it still happens to me from time to time. I have to cycle my ivtv driver to get around it |
| [23:30:00] | flindet_: | but most of the time it works |
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| [23:39:00] | bobc: | does mythtv handle screensavers appropriately for anyone in here? |
| [23:41:00] | GeckoFiend: | bobc yep |
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| [23:42:00] | bobc: | GeckoFiend: we had a couple brief emails on the mailing list a month or two ago where you said that they worked and it didn't for me |
| [23:42:00] | mace: | is anyone about from the uk who use mythtv with ntl? |
| [23:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | do you have your screensaver set to be dpms aware? |
| [23:42:00] | bobc: | I just installed a new frontend using kubuntu and it doesn't either – any idea why? |
| [23:42:00] | bobc: | ahh... no idea |
| [23:42:00] | bobc: | what screensaver are you using? |
| [23:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | I found that once I set that switch it started working |
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| [23:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | when I was testing it for you I was using the kde screen saver |
| [23:43:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: how do you set the screensaver to be dpms aware? |
| [23:43:00] | bobc: | mchou: you took the words right out of my mouth, err keyboard |
| [23:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | there's a checkbox for it in the KDE settings |
| [23:43:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: ah, never mind, found it. |
| [23:44:00] | GeckoFiend: | I think some of the screensavers ignore the API calls we make without that being set |
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| [23:45:00] | bobc: | excellent, I will try it out – I've wanted to use a screensaver with myth for a long time |
| [23:45:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
| [23:46:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: so if dpms-aware is enabled, that means that myth will prevent the screensaver from taking place? |
| [23:46:00] | mchou: | hi jemarcks |
| [23:46:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i upgraded to ivtv 3.4a. it seems to have helped. i now have a working box :D |
| [23:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou while video is running yes |
| [23:47:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: yeah, that's what I meant :) |
| [23:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | and while the mytyhmusic visualizations are running if you're using cvs |
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| [23:48:00] | mace: | whats the best version to use with a pvr350 card? |
| [23:48:00] | mace: | i'm on .17 atm |
| [23:49:00] | GeckoFiend: | mace it really doesn't matter what myth version you're using for that card. what matters is yoru drivers more than anything |
| [23:49:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: I upgraded to ivtv 3.3d, I think that works best so far...... |
| [23:49:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, cool |
| [23:49:00] | mchou: | at least allows scaling now..... |
| [23:49:00] | jemarcks: | so much for me to learn. lol |
| [23:50:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, can i watch a recorded show while its recording another with one 150 ? |
| [23:50:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [23:50:00] | jemarcks: | good... havent tried that yet. |
| [23:51:00] | jemarcks: | now that its working, i get to play with all the goodies and learn how this all works. |
| [23:52:00] | jemarcks: | i need to try playing a dvd and then i want to try to import a dvd and then burn a new one from that. |
| [23:53:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, the wife is happy, i recorded the Kentucky derby for her today. :D |
| [23:53:00] | mchou: | hmm...what exactly are the fixes in the release-0-18-fixes branch (compared with 0.18 release)? |
| [23:54:00] | jemarcks: | hmm... duno |
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| [23:55:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i think there is a 2nd release of 0.18 in ATrpms |
| [23:58:00] | mace: | GeckoFiend: ta – i'm running the latest stable ivtv driver |
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