| Thursday, May 5th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | ParadigmS: | pce-matty: what are you haveing problems with? |
| [00:00:00] | ParadigmS: | i2c or serial |
| [00:02:00] | pce-matty: | pardigmS: oh i haven't started looking at the problem yet. Boss tossed me two usb remotes yesterday and said: hey matty, you can get these going can't you? |
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| [00:02:00] | ParadigmS: | hehe |
| [00:02:00] | pce-matty: | got a Microsoft Media Center remote (haven't worked out what version yet), and a remote for a DVICO HDTV card |
| [00:02:00] | ParadigmS: | yeah i hear usb doesn't work to well with lircd |
| [00:03:00] | ParadigmS: | oh there is some stuff on the MCE remote |
| [00:03:00] | pce-matty: | read the FAQ and it's a little more blunt than that |
| [00:03:00] | ParadigmS: | a number of people use that |
| [00:04:00] | pce-matty: | but yes, you're right, there is MCE support (of some kind) and the DVICO remote works coz: http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/ has a patch file for lirc 0.7.0 |
| [00:04:00] | pce-matty: | but aside from the fact that i've proved to myself that they work in theory... well I've got a few other bits and pieces to sort out this morning |
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| [00:10:00] | ParadigmS: | well good luck with that |
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| [01:26:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [01:26:00] | gnarface: | raise your hands directtv users |
| [01:26:00] | gnarface: | especially if you're gurus. |
| [01:27:00] | ** kormoc nails his hand down on the 13th circle of hell. ** | |
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| [01:30:00] | gnarface: | wow. |
| [01:30:00] | gnarface: | quiet channel. |
| [01:30:00] | gnarface: | i'm lonely. |
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| [01:33:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: added one more stat to the stats page. |
| [01:33:00] | slePP: | that page takes like 5 seconds to generate now. heh |
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| [01:36:00] | ** Beirdo raises a finger in defiance of DirecTV ** | |
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| [01:36:00] | ** slePP raises a finger in defiance of beirdo ** | |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [01:37:00] | slePP: | sit'n'rotate, baby! |
| [01:37:00] | ** Beirdo slaps slePP with the trout ** | |
| [01:37:00] | slePP: | someone posted something like 30 'testing...' pastes to the pastebin |
| [01:37:00] | ** slePP is prepping for an attempted DoS :> ** | |
| [01:37:00] | ** Beirdo grins ** | |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | betcha it's pastebin.com buddy |
| [01:37:00] | slePP: | hehehe |
| [01:37:00] | slePP: | great, cyberknet started the pb wars for real :P |
| [01:38:00] | slePP: | paul dixon wasn't pleased with his little post about pastebin.ca |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | I think my you suck banner started it :) |
| [01:38:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [01:38:00] | slePP: | that was fairly anonymous ;> |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | but I did post it to both |
| [01:38:00] | slePP: | yeh |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | and yours sucked less :) |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:38:00] | slePP: | he changed his trim() to rtrim() because of that |
| [01:38:00] | ** slePP rtrims() the post on display, but not for diff's, which is interesting :> but i think that's proper ** | |
| [01:39:00] | slePP: | it discards extra lines on view, but the diff includes extra blanks at the end of the file so the patch would truly work |
| [01:39:00] | slePP: | isn't the new pastebin prettier than it was last night? yeah? uhhuh? prettttty |
| [01:39:00] | ** slePP makes out with it ** | |
| [01:39:00] | slePP: | (god i'm obsessed with the pb... go figure) |
| [01:40:00] | gnarface: | pb? |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | don't forget the GF |
| [01:40:00] | slePP: | she's at work |
| [01:40:00] | slePP: | gnarface: pastebin.ca |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | "so hold me... until it sleeps..." |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | Metallica++ |
| [01:41:00] | ** slePP holds beirdo. it's ok. the big bad world will not hurt you anymore. ** | |
| [01:41:00] | ** slePP pets his hair ** | |
| [01:41:00] | slePP: | (if yo have any, of course....) |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | not much |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:41:00] | slePP: | oooh. fuzzy |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | intentionally |
| [01:41:00] | Cromz: | carefull someone might post this convo on pastebin |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:42:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/10981 |
| [01:42:00] | Cromz: | MythLogBot: nvidia drivers |
| [01:42:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:42:00] | Cromz: | that bot no smart |
| [01:43:00] | slePP: | neither are any of us :> |
| [01:43:00] | Cromz: | doh! |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | http://pastebin.ca/10982 |
| [01:43:00] | slePP: | hehehe |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | it does exactly what it's supposed to do |
| [01:43:00] | slePP: | how's that? |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | it logs the channel |
| [01:44:00] | slePP: | oh, the bot |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | that's all it's meant to do |
| [01:44:00] | slePP: | thought you meant your paste |
| [01:44:00] | ** slePP was like.. what's it doing that it is supposed to do? ** | |
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| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | Heya Captain_Murdoch_ :) |
| [01:45:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/10983 |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh, |
| [01:45:00] | Cromz: | alrighty then. looks like I may have to downgrade my video drivers to nvidia 6629 to play city of heros.. :'( |
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| [01:45:00] | Cromz: | will mythtv work with the 6629 drivers? |
| [01:45:00] | slePP: | i need a selection of good quotes to start dropping onto the pages.. |
| [01:45:00] | slePP: | like 'C is the best language ever, because I can pronounce it' |
| [01:45:00] | slePP: | you know.. stupid like that |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:46:00] | ** slePP checks what fortune databases are available these days ** | |
| [01:46:00] | goodtod: | any reason why i would be stuck on one channel? |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Metallica – King Nothing |
| [01:46:00] | ** slePP will _not_ admit to what he's listening to..... ** | |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | hah |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | http://www.somafm.com/ |
| [01:46:00] | Cromz: | I saw some posts that say it has problems and someone saying they had to go back to 6111 or something.. |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | hah, can't be that bad |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | all you need to listen to. |
| [01:46:00] | slePP: | nor the fact i'm like dancing to it |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | Britney? |
| [01:47:00] | slePP: | christina |
| [01:47:00] | slePP: | infatuation |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | could be worse |
| [01:47:00] | slePP: | could be far worse |
| [01:47:00] | slePP: | i rather like the musical styles of some her stuff |
| [01:47:00] | slePP: | the lyrics are often quite stupid, though |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | at least she's proud of being a skank |
| [01:47:00] | slePP: | hehehe |
| [01:47:00] | ** slePP listens to some avril now ** | |
| [01:48:00] | ** slePP is into angrygirlsingermode ** | |
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| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:48:00] | slePP: | or is it just the list of girls i'd like to sleep with... |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | this laptop just won't go loud enough to do Metallica justice without headphones |
| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | careful what you wish.. you may regret it... careful what you wish.. you just might get it! |
| [01:49:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/10985 |
| [01:49:00] | slePP: | this is like cyberknet and i on the comment system yesterday |
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| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | and to think that people said the Load and Reload albums sucked |
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| [01:50:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/tree21032 |
| [01:50:00] | slePP: | one more post, and that's the longest pb tree so far :> |
| [01:51:00] | xortch: | is there another program besides nuvexport that will convert mythtv files to divx or xvid |
| [01:51:00] | xortch: | ? |
| [01:51:00] | xortch: | because i cannot get nuvexport working at all |
| [01:51:00] | slePP: | won't transcode do it by itself..? |
| [01:51:00] | xortch: | god if i know all of the options for transcode |
| [01:51:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [01:51:00] | slePP: | then make nuvexport work... |
| [01:51:00] | slePP: | what's it not doing? |
| [01:52:00] | slePP: | maybe you want nuvexport --transcode |
| [01:52:00] | xortch: | i select all the programs i want to convert in nuvexport, but then it just sits there waiting to recieve data to transcode, at least thats what i think whats happening |
| [01:53:00] | xortch: | Unknown option: transcode |
| [01:53:00] | slePP: | hmm |
| [01:53:00] | ** slePP shrugs. dunno then ** | |
| [01:53:00] | gnarface: | i'm new to this too |
| [01:53:00] | gnarface: | but not to linux |
| [01:54:00] | gnarface: | xortch, where did that nuvexport come from? compiled or a package? |
| [01:54:00] | xortch: | nuvexport worked in the past |
| [01:54:00] | gnarface: | oh. |
| [01:54:00] | gnarface: | you're s.o.l. then. |
| [01:54:00] | xortch: | ive tried the version that comes with gentoo, and the version on the site |
| [01:55:00] | gnarface: | if it used to work and now its saying 'unknown option' something must have changed on your filesystem |
| [01:55:00] | gnarface: | probably either nuvexport itself or a requisite library |
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| [01:55:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/search.php?srch=beirdo& . . . &bytype= |
| [01:55:00] | slePP: | Beirdo, you're a popular guy |
| [01:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:58:00] | gnome42: | I can't find the option to get rid of the "Yes, Exit and Shutdown" button when exiting myth. |
| [01:59:00] | gnome42: | I definatley do not want to shutdown the system (just mythtv ") |
| [02:00:00] | slePP: | ensure there is no setting for the shutdown command in the settings? |
| [02:00:00] | slePP: | i think that's what i have and it isn't there... |
| [02:01:00] | gnome42: | slePP: I removed "halt" from the "Halt command" setting but still no luck |
| [02:01:00] | slePP: | oh. dunno, then? |
| [02:01:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [02:02:00] | ** slePP tries to remember the CSS to make li arrows be inside the bounding box... ** | |
| [02:02:00] | gnome42: | Is that what yoou meant by "shutdown command" ? |
| [02:04:00] | rpete: | do you have "confirm exit" checked gnome42 ? |
| [02:05:00] | rpete: | guess that's not it |
| [02:05:00] | rpete: | where is that blasted option, I cannot find it either |
| [02:05:00] | gnome42: | yep, I want that option or else I am always exiting by accident |
| [02:05:00] | gnome42: | I think it is hard coded when the machine doesn't also have a backend on it |
| [02:05:00] | rpete: | one of my frontends has the option, one doesn't, I can't figure how I set them |
| [02:06:00] | slePP: | yeh, that's the same as mine |
| [02:06:00] | slePP: | 3 frontends |
| [02:06:00] | slePP: | one used to say it, now it doesn't |
| [02:06:00] | slePP: | the other 2 never did |
| [02:06:00] | rpete: | heh |
| [02:06:00] | gnome42: | do they have backends running as well? |
| [02:06:00] | rpete: | your backend theory matches my setup |
| [02:07:00] | gnarface: | slePP: btw, its list-style-position: inside |
| [02:07:00] | gnome42: | rpete: ok, thanks for confirming |
| [02:08:00] | gnarface: | but if i were you i'd set list-style-type: none; and simulate the arrows with background graphics. |
| [02:10:00] | slePP: | so it is |
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| [02:14:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/10987 |
| [02:14:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [02:14:00] | slePP: | Editor's Choice |
| [02:15:00] | goodtod: | i'm having trouble with myth-setup. i run it in an put in all the right information and it says i can't connect to the database. i have logged into the database on the command line so i know it is running. |
| [02:17:00] | gnome42: | goodtod: all on the same machine? |
| [02:17:00] | goodtod: | yes |
| [02:18:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: well actually, problems started when i tried to run mythfrontend from another machine. |
| [02:18:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: then i went back to the backend and ran the frontend and it doesn't work |
| [02:18:00] | gnome42: | Ahah! |
| [02:18:00] | gnome42: | oh |
| [02:19:00] | gnome42: | I found the default install of mysql was only listening locally |
| [02:19:00] | gnome42: | #bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [02:19:00] | gnome42: | bind-address = 0.0.0.0 |
| [02:19:00] | gnome42: | that is the change I made in my.cnf |
| [02:19:00] | goodtod: | wow |
| [02:20:00] | goodtod: | when i use 127.0.0.1 as the ip, it doesn't work |
| [02:20:00] | goodtod: | but when i use localhost, it works |
| [02:20:00] | gnome42: | bizarre, /etc/hosts? |
| [02:21:00] | goodtod: | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| [02:23:00] | goodtod: | i have no bind-address line in my.cnf |
| [02:23:00] | goodtod: | i don't know if that means anything? |
| [02:23:00] | gnome42: | netstat -na|grep 3306 ? |
| [02:23:00] | goodtod: | nothing |
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| [02:24:00] | gnome42: | mysql is not listening at all then? ( assuming the default mysql port ) |
| [02:24:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Def Leppard – Rocket |
| [02:25:00] | goodtod: | port = 3306 |
| [02:25:00] | gnome42: | bind-address? |
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| [02:27:00] | goodtod: | not there |
| [02:27:00] | gnome42: | try adding bind-address = 0.0.0.0 |
| [02:28:00] | gnome42: | then restart mysql |
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| [02:28:00] | slePP: | neat. xmms thinks this mp3 is -2886 minutes long |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | sweet |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Whitesnake – Is This Love? |
| [02:29:00] | slePP: | ever see the progress bar go backwards? heh |
| [02:29:00] | pookSter: | hows everyone tonight : |
| [02:29:00] | slePP: | it started at the far right, and about 3 seconds in, it was at the far left. |
| [02:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:30:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: it says unknown variable bind-address |
| [02:30:00] | Beirdo: | my night is being nice and loud |
| [02:30:00] | slePP: | pookSter: superb! |
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| [02:31:00] | gnome42: | goodtod: different mysql version, 4.0.24–7 here |
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| [02:32:00] | Beirdo: | make sure there's no "no-networking" line or something like that |
| [02:32:00] | gnome42: | goodtod: yeah, something is skipping the networking bit |
| [02:32:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: Distrib 4.0.22 |
| [02:33:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: would there be a difference? |
| [02:33:00] | gnome42: | no not much |
| [02:33:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: i just used knoppmyth :-\ |
| [02:34:00] | gnome42: | oh, I tried that first time around too, regretted it too |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | hey, what do you guys use to control your cable/satellite recievers? an ir-blaster or the serial cable stuff? |
| [02:34:00] | gnome42: | goodtod: for a permanent install that is |
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| [02:34:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: yes |
| [02:35:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: i think it has something to do with mysqld_safe not having a bind address option? |
| [02:35:00] | pookSter: | serial cable with IR Blaster here gnarface |
| [02:36:00] | gnome42: | yeah something like that is causing mysql not to listen on the network. And it would seem to be knopmyth specific. |
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| [02:38:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: but why would it listen on localhost but not 127.0.0.1? |
| [02:39:00] | gnome42: | also knopmyth specific, try knoppmyth site/FAQ i guess |
| [02:42:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: ugh, look what i found in my.cnf |
| [02:42:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: skip-networking |
| [02:42:00] | gnome42: | lol |
| [02:43:00] | gnome42: | does it work now? |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks: | Does anybody know what this error means? Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "3" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks: | its in the mythbackend log file |
| [02:46:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: yep :) |
| [02:46:00] | gnome42: | cool! |
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| [02:48:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: thanks for your help :) you led me to the problem |
| [02:50:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [02:50:00] | gnarface: | i'm doing some research here |
| [02:50:00] | gnarface: | about direct tv (yes i know you all hate it) |
| [02:50:00] | jemarcks: | << has DTV but switching to digital cable |
| [02:50:00] | gnarface: | and i'm trying to figure out what the best bet is to get mythtv to control a direct tv reciever |
| [02:51:00] | gnarface: | the reciever i'm told is a samsung sirs70 |
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| [02:51:00] | pbiegaj: | hey all |
| [02:51:00] | gnarface: | though i can't find that model mentioned anywhere aonline |
| [02:51:00] | jemarcks: | do you have a IR blaster or a serial cable for it? |
| [02:51:00] | gnarface: | currently i have neither |
| [02:51:00] | gnarface: | i just ordered the parts for the base system |
| [02:51:00] | gnarface: | this is a contract job |
| [02:51:00] | pbiegaj: | I have an issue on ubuntu hoary where whenever i try and start the backendserver I get no settings found for this machine's backendseverIP |
| [02:51:00] | goodtod: | gnome42: uhhh, got another problem :) |
| [02:51:00] | jemarcks: | you will need one of those to control what channel the receiver tunes to |
| [02:51:00] | pbiegaj: | anybody experience the same thing and could maybe shed some light? |
| [02:52:00] | gnarface: | jemarcks: noted. but which? |
| [02:52:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, depends on the receiver. i hear the serial cable method is a good one. some use the IR blaster to doit. |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | jemarcks: hmm. its supposed to be a samsung sirs70, but i can't find mention of it specifically online |
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| [03:00:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | hey...can someone help me with a TV time offset issue |
| [03:02:00] | jemarcks: | Does anybody know what this error means? Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "3" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
| [03:02:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | probably it doesn't know about channel 3 |
| [03:03:00] | jemarcks: | duh.. i figured that. my DTV guide doesnt have one but i need to set the tuner to 3 to get the input signal |
| [03:03:00] | jemarcks: | do i need to define a channel 3 in the channel setup screen in mythsetup? |
| [03:03:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | probably |
| [03:03:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | mythtv will only work with channels if it knows about them (i think) |
| [03:03:00] | jemarcks: | hmm.... ok... ill try that. it seems to work anyway |
| [03:07:00] | goodtod: | when i am in xawtv how do i save my settings so i can put them in mythtv? |
| [03:08:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | never used xawtv, what settings do you want to save? |
| [03:08:00] | goodtod: | ummm |
| [03:08:00] | goodtod: | chroma agc on |
| [03:09:00] | goodtod: | otherwise everything is black and white |
| [03:09:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | no idea, you may have a different card than I do |
| [03:11:00] | goodtod: | :-\ ok, thanks anyways |
| [03:12:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | anyone any idea about time offset ? |
| [03:12:00] | Beirdo: | we already did |
| [03:13:00] | Beirdo: | we already helped you, we put it in the channel FAQ |
| [03:13:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | i'm reading online...everything i'm trying isn't helping |
| [03:15:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | i have read the mailing lists, and what worked for others doesn't seem to be working for me |
| [03:15:00] | goodtod: | sparky_not_so_el: are you just having a linux problem with time? |
| [03:16:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | no date shows the right time |
| [03:16:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | Wed May 4 22:16:22 EDT 2005 |
| [03:17:00] | goodtod: | what's wrong with that? |
| [03:17:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | i have offset set to none, and everything is an hour fast, so I have changed the offset in mythtv-setup, but no matter what I do the listings are an hour ahead |
| [03:17:00] | gnarface: | that's right, i think. |
| [03:17:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | the daily show is listed as starting at 10, not 11 |
| [03:17:00] | Beirdo: | what version of Qt, what version of myth? |
| [03:18:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | myth 0.17–3 is what the deb package said |
| [03:18:00] | Beirdo: | and Qt? |
| [03:18:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | is there a command to get that real quick? |
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| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | apt-cache policy libqt or something |
| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | I don't remember what the package is called in debian |
| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | apt-cache search for it |
| [03:19:00] | Agrajag-: | just do dpkg -l qt* |
| [03:19:00] | goodtod: | do you guys have any idea why i would be stuck on one channel? |
| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | ah, or that |
| [03:19:00] | goodtod: | when i go up and down it just stays on the same channel |
| [03:19:00] | Agrajag-: | or libqt* rather |
| [03:20:00] | Beirdo: | goodtod: because your starting channel is likely incorrect |
| [03:20:00] | Beirdo: | as the log message shoulda told you |
| [03:20:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | qte3-mt-mysql 3.1.2–2 |
| [03:20:00] | gnarface: | ARGH |
| [03:21:00] | gnarface: | ok. at this point i'll even accept rumors |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think that's the one you're looking for. but that's way old |
| [03:21:00] | gnarface: | what's the best IR transmitter hardware to buy? |
| [03:21:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | libqt3c102-mt 3.3.4–3 |
| [03:21:00] | goodtod: | Beirdo: hmmm so mythtv-setup to fix that? |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | there's the problem |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | goodtod: yes |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | sparky_not_so_el: read the channel FAQ |
| [03:22:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | hmmm downgrading qt or patching myth... |
| [03:23:00] | goodtod: | Beirdo: i can't find a startup channel setting in mythtv-setup |
| [03:23:00] | Beirdo: | it's in the card config I think |
| [03:24:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | not really sure which one will be easier....should I download the mythtv source, patch it...and will all my binary plugins work or do I have to compile them all too? |
| [03:24:00] | Beirdo: | you'd have to recompile the whole thing |
| [03:24:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | statup channel is in input connections->tuner ... |
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| [03:24:00] | goodtod: | Beirdo: ehh i don't think so. Is that exactly what it's called? |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm not starting up setup right now to find it |
| [03:25:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | goodtod, its under input connections, tuner |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | something like startup channel |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | just hunt until you find it. start where sparky_not_so_el's saying :) |
| [03:26:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | damn you apt-get dist-upgrade and fscking up my qt... |
| [03:26:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | there is no apt-get dist-downgrade is there : ) |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | man apt-get |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:26:00] | goodtod: | sparky_not_so_el, Beirdo: thanks |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | no problem |
| [03:27:00] | goodtod: | Didn't seem to make a difference though :) |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | then restart the backend |
| [03:28:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | should I just upgrade to myth 0.18? |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | sparky_not_so_el: likely |
| [03:28:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
| [03:28:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | ...ok here we go ; ) |
| [03:29:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i got it working! |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: yeah, hernel recompile? |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | kernel* |
| [03:30:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, no... turned out to be a pesky software race condition |
| [03:30:00] | jemarcks: | now i get good pic and audio on tuner0 |
| [03:30:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: which software? |
| [03:30:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, backend was starting up to soon. |
| [03:31:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, so i turned it on in rc.local |
| [03:31:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: huhh???? |
| [03:31:00] | jemarcks: | that fixed it. i found others that has this issue on the mailing list.... i tried their fix... poof! |
| [03:31:00] | mchou: | the backend starts too soon compared to what? |
| [03:32:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, dont know why but it did. |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: link to fix pls. |
| [03:32:00] | jemarcks: | mchou.. hang on. |
| [03:33:00] | gnarface: | hmm. everyone says myth 0.18 is more stable. |
| [03:33:00] | gnarface: | do you guys concur? |
| [03:33:00] | slePP: | ok. implementing a full comment system for pastes is painful |
| [03:33:00] | slePP: | but, yet, refreshingly amusing |
| [03:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:34:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | Beirdo, your sure that mythtv 0.18 doesn't try to fix qt's bug before I go and do this? |
| [03:34:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/10985#comments |
| [03:34:00] | Beirdo: | AFAIK there's a workaround/whatever in myth 0.18 |
| [03:35:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | ok |
| [03:37:00] | goodtod: | no matter what i put as the start up channel, the channel is always 1 too high |
| [03:37:00] | gnarface: | starting at 0? |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, grrrr. cant find it now... i ran across it looking into what you suggested with recompiling the kernel and 4kstacks... |
| [03:37:00] | goodtod: | gnarface: no, is that what it is supposed to be? |
| [03:37:00] | gnarface: | no idea. just a guess. |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: what mailing list was this? myth or ivtv? |
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| [03:40:00] | goodtod: | didn't work |
| [03:41:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, myth-users |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: so what exactly did you change? |
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| [03:43:00] | goodtod: | how do you setup the startup channel |
| [03:43:00] | Beirdo: | we already told you |
| [03:44:00] | goodtod: | well |
| [03:44:00] | goodtod: | i tried 0,1,2,3 |
| [03:44:00] | goodtod: | they all do the same thing |
| [03:44:00] | goodtod: | 1 channel too high |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | wth. always whiners on this channel |
| [03:44:00] | Beirdo: | set it to a channel you HAVE |
| [03:44:00] | jemarcks: | mchou http://www.pastebin.com/279809 |
| [03:44:00] | jemarcks: | mchou i changed this file |
| [03:45:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: that's ridiculous |
| [03:46:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: it's more likely you didn't set correct permissions on /dev/dsp |
| [03:46:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, it worked after i disabled ahto startup for the backend |
| [03:46:00] | jemarcks: | i didnt fiddle with those |
| [03:46:00] | jemarcks: | [root@htpc1 mythtv]# ll /dev/dsp |
| [03:46:00] | jemarcks: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 14, 3 May 4 20:18 /dev/dsp |
| [03:46:00] | mchou: | you're executing it as root (now), which is why the problem no longer manifests itself. |
| [03:46:00] | jemarcks: | ?? |
| [03:47:00] | jemarcks: | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [03:47:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: as I thought, you audio device permissions are wrong. |
| [03:47:00] | mchou: | your* |
| [03:47:00] | ** Beirdo hands mchou the trout. go nuts ** | |
| [03:47:00] | gnarface: | how do they *get* wrong? |
| [03:47:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: the trout? |
| [03:47:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:47:00] | jemarcks: | mchou so the permissions need to me for mythtv on /dev/dsp? |
| [03:47:00] | gnarface: | no, audio device permissions |
| [03:47:00] | gnarface: | i've actually *never* had a problem with them |
| [03:48:00] | ** Beirdo gives mchou a demonstration ** | |
| [03:48:00] | gnarface: | using any program |
| [03:48:00] | gnarface: | with any distribution |
| [03:48:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you mean I get to slam some ppl w. it? |
| [03:48:00] | gnarface: | what are you people doing to your devices, damnit? |
| [03:48:00] | ** Beirdo slaps jemarcks with the trout ** | |
| [03:48:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:48:00] | jemarcks: | ewwww ;) |
| [03:48:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [03:48:00] | jemarcks: | im not sure how it didnt get set correctly |
| [03:48:00] | jemarcks: | i dont remember jarods guide saying anythng about permissions |
| [03:49:00] | jemarcks: | so.. to be very clear.... #chown mythtv:mythtv /dev/dsp? |
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| [03:49:00] | jemarcks: | so, everything run in rc.local is run as root? |
| [03:50:00] | jemarcks: | hnmmmm ok. the fog is clearing |
| [03:50:00] | jemarcks: | :) |
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| [03:50:00] | gnarface: | isn't this what /sys is supposed to fix? |
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| [03:51:00] | goodtod: | Beirdo: i set it to a channel i have, but mythtv thinks it is 3 when it really is 2 |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | then your tuner's not setup right |
| [03:52:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, do you agree that the permissions are wrong on /dev/dsp? |
| [03:52:00] | egsavage: | Looks like Jarod has a bug in his Lirc instructions... |
| [03:53:00] | jemarcks: | yup. somehow he forgot to tell us to do this |
| [03:53:00] | egsavage: | his tail commend ended up wiping out my lirc.rules file.... anyone have that big ;-) 2 line file handy? |
| [03:53:00] | egsavage: | tail command that is |
| [03:54:00] | gnarface: | jemarcks: my device is still crw------- but my user changes to whatever user is logged in |
| [03:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am trying to record something but I cannot set it to where it will record it.... |
| [03:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it only gives me the option of do not record |
| [03:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | any ideas of why it does this? |
| [03:55:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, my device for /dev/dsp is still crw------ too. but mythtv now owns it. is that correct? |
| [03:55:00] | egsavage: | btw, the file is /etc/udev/rules.d/lirc.rules |
| [03:55:00] | egsavage: | anyone? |
| [03:55:00] | cinix: | I changed the time offset setting on my mythtv settings, how do I repopulate the program guide database? could I clear it somehow and then just run mythfill? |
| [03:55:00] | jemarcks: | i got it |
| [03:55:00] | jemarcks: | [mythtv@htpc1 ~]$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/lirc.rules |
| [03:55:00] | jemarcks: | KERNEL="lirc[0–9]*", NAME="lirc%n" |
| [03:55:00] | jemarcks: | KERNEL="lirc0", SYMLINK="lirc" |
| [03:55:00] | jemarcks: | [mythtv@htpc1 ~]$ |
| [03:55:00] | egsavage: | thanks! |
| [03:56:00] | jemarcks: | ;) |
| [03:59:00] | jemarcks: | sombody needs to tell jarod to put this in his guide! |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | why don't you? |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | you can just send him email, you know |
| [04:00:00] | jemarcks: | think i will. yep |
| [04:00:00] | jemarcks: | let me prove to myself this is it first. |
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| [04:01:00] | egsavage: | you said /dev/dsp – is that an issue for a pvr-250 setup? |
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| [04:03:00] | jemarcks: | i have a pvr 150 |
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| [04:03:00] | egsavage: | that does mpeg2 hw encode too, right? |
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| [04:05:00] | egsavage: | i thought i remember reading in jarod's docs about /dev/dsp but it said it wasn't a concern for the 250 since the audio was already in the mpeg2 stream |
| [04:05:00] | egsavage: | still setting mine up so excuse my ignorance |
| [04:05:00] | goodtod: | Beirdo: how do i set my tuner up "right" so it won't show one channel too high? |
| [04:06:00] | Beirdo: | reading Jarod's guide might be a good start |
| [04:08:00] | goodtod: | Beirdo: all it says is to add one line in modprobe.conf |
| [04:09:00] | goodtod: | which is lready there |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | argh, I'm too tired for this tonight, sorry |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'm quitting now before I start getting belligerant from lack of sleep |
| [04:10:00] | goodtod: | night |
| [04:10:00] | Beirdo: | good luck :) |
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| [04:11:00] | egsavage: | calling it a day too – thanks again jemarcks |
| [04:12:00] | emes: | when i launch 0.18, after resizing the theme, my X server just completely freezes |
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| [04:12:00] | quink: | any of you have problems ripping dvds where the audio loses sync? |
| [04:14:00] | gnarface: | *shrug* |
| [04:14:00] | gnarface: | never tried it |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | i sometimes lose a/v sync when transcoding dvb recordings |
| [04:15:00] | quink: | any ideas how to fix it or make it less likely to happen? |
| [04:15:00] | Agrajag-: | i have an idea mine happens when machine load is high |
| [04:15:00] | Agrajag-: | not sure though |
| [04:15:00] | gnarface: | that's a definite possibility |
| [04:16:00] | gnarface: | what type of hardware are you using quink |
| [04:16:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [04:16:00] | quink: | but shouldn't the computer slow down what its doing...ripping whatever, to compensate so it might take longer but do it right |
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| [04:16:00] | quink: | ummm www.optimusprimal.com/phpsysinfo |
| [04:16:00] | gnarface: | depends on the respective nice levels of the processes |
| [04:16:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i believe mythtranscode runs with a low nice priority |
| [04:16:00] | cinix: | Err does anyone else have a problem updating from datadirect? I keep getting 500 internal server errors, and I can't determine if it's my problem |
| [04:16:00] | quink: | 1 in 3 dvds i'd say do that |
| [04:18:00] | Agrajag-: | since it doesn't always happen, i reckon it could be loads |
| [04:19:00] | quink: | the computer is only a mythtv system |
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| [04:19:00] | quink: | that and for me to ssh in and irc/chat |
| [04:19:00] | gnarface: | any way to find out system load at the time of recordings? |
| [04:20:00] | quink: | not that i know of |
| [04:20:00] | quink: | still i just don't think that should happen, regardless of load |
| [04:20:00] | quink: | rip time should go up exponentially but it should never loose sync |
| [04:20:00] | gnarface: | do you know if the original recordings had any desync problems? |
| [04:21:00] | quink: | it was a store bought dvd |
| [04:21:00] | quink: | and no |
| [04:21:00] | gnarface: | wait |
| [04:21:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, well that didnt work. |
| [04:22:00] | gnarface: | nevermind |
| [04:22:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, why did the permissions on /dev/dsp change back after a reboot |
| [04:23:00] | gnarface: | cause you logged out |
| [04:23:00] | gnarface: | or logged back in |
| [04:23:00] | gnarface: | what user are you running as again and what is it changing the permissions to? |
| [04:24:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, they were mythtv:root, everybody said that was bad... it should be mythtv:mythtv. so i changed it a rebooted. now my probems are back |
| [04:24:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, im runing fc3 + mythtv 0.18 |
| [04:24:00] | gnarface: | ls -l /dev/dsp |
| [04:24:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [04:25:00] | jemarcks: | ls -l /dev/dsp |
| [04:25:00] | jemarcks: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 14, 3 May 4 22:14 /dev/dsp |
| [04:25:00] | jemarcks: | [mythtv@htpc1 ~]$ |
| [04:25:00] | gnarface: | kernel version? |
| [04:25:00] | jemarcks: | 2.6.11–1.14_FC3 |
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| [04:26:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, i used jarods guide to set it up |
| [04:27:00] | gnarface: | hmm. |
| [04:27:00] | gnarface: | wait |
| [04:27:00] | gnarface: | what error are you getting again? |
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| [04:29:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, problem i have is this... i have a DTV receiver and im using svideo out to the myth capture card input. audio cables too. i get a lot of static on the audio. |
| [04:29:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, i get no video on tuner0 |
| [04:29:00] | jemarcks: | grrrr |
| [04:29:00] | jemarcks: | i know the hardware works... some how i had it working with tuner0 while ago but after a reboot its hosed again. |
| [04:29:00] | gnarface: | but if you set the group to mythtv on /dev/dsp you do? |
| [04:30:00] | jemarcks: | mchou told me to set the permissions to mythtv:mythtv on /dev/dsp. so i did an rebooted to make sure it was clean and now its back the way it was |
| [04:31:00] | gnarface: | i see |
| [04:31:00] | jemarcks: | i dont understand since jarods guide didnt tell me to do that |
| [04:31:00] | jemarcks: | something thats not obviousl to me is not set right so that this box works |
| [04:31:00] | gnarface: | did you check to see if it was working *before* you rebooted? |
| [04:31:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. it was working on tuner0 with good audio before i changed the permissions |
| [04:32:00] | jemarcks: | sigh.. im about to just wipe the drive and install knoppmyth |
| [04:32:00] | gnarface: | *shrug* |
| [04:32:00] | gnarface: | let me know how that works for you. |
| [04:32:00] | jemarcks: | k |
| [04:32:00] | jemarcks: | thx |
| [04:32:00] | gnarface: | wait |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | *before* you changed the permissions? |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | i'm so confused |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | you mean *after*? |
| [04:33:00] | jemarcks: | me too |
| [04:33:00] | jemarcks: | .... it was working... then i was told to change the permissions. i rebooted and now it doesnt work anymore |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | haha. |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [04:34:00] | jemarcks: | something else is going on here |
| [04:34:00] | gnarface: | the reboot problem, i dunno what to say |
| [04:34:00] | jemarcks: | i just dont know enough to see it yet |
| [04:34:00] | gnarface: | as for the permissions, they looked fine to me |
| [04:34:00] | gnarface: | but i don't know how the group setting could affect anything |
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| [04:34:00] | gnarface: | and i certainly don't know why rebooting would even be necessary |
| [04:35:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, well i like to reboot to check and see if my changes will survive clean. 'wife' test so to speak |
| [04:35:00] | gnarface: | fair enough. |
| [04:36:00] | gnarface: | lets go back to the part where you said it was working and then you were instructed to break it |
| [04:36:00] | jemarcks: | k |
| [04:36:00] | gnarface: | it was working? |
| [04:36:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. good too.. on tuner0 with a coax |
| [04:36:00] | gnarface: | and mythtv is running as mythtv? |
| [04:36:00] | jemarcks: | yep. auto logged in from gdm |
| [04:37:00] | gnarface: | do you know what the device permissions were when it was working? |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | they were same as now... that was when i was told to change it |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 14, 3 May 4 22:14 /dev/dsp |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | here is what i put in my rc.local to fix ti. |
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| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | touch /var/lock/subsys/local |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset -dpms |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset s off |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | /usr/bin/mtd --daemon |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | /sbin/modprobe ivtv |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | /sbin/chkconfig lircd on |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | /sbin/service lircd start |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | /usr/bin/mythbackend & |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | sleep 4 |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune.pl 3 |
| [04:39:00] | gnarface: | /etc/rc.local |
| [04:39:00] | jemarcks: | then i went to a console... tested it with mplayer, ivtvctl -p0 and ivtvctp -q1... mplayer was working. Then mythfrontend and live tv worked. |
| [04:40:00] | jemarcks: | yes |
| [04:40:00] | jemarcks: | /etc/rc.d/rc.local |
| [04:40:00] | emes: | when i launch 0.18, after resizing the theme, my X server just completely freezes, how do i make this not happen? |
| [04:41:00] | jemarcks: | i read a post on the list about this problem and others have fixed it my not starting mythbackend until rc.local. seemed to work but now it doesnt. hmmmmm |
| [04:42:00] | gnarface: | so you've rebooted before and it used to work? |
| [04:42:00] | gnarface: | if that's the case then i'd say try verifying each of those commands are running. |
| [04:43:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, no, i didnt reboot when it was working.... i let it run for a while.... then came here to tell mchou (who was helping me yesterday) that i got it to work. |
| [04:43:00] | gnarface: | so logic would dictate something changed that didn't make it into your rc.local right? |
| [04:43:00] | gnarface: | can you think of anything that might be? |
| [04:43:00] | jemarcks: | yup. there are other variables at work here |
| [04:44:00] | jemarcks: | not a clue |
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| [04:44:00] | jemarcks: | others have used jarods guide and a pvr150 to get a box going with out a hitch. some have had trouble. so have i but i follwoed the guide to the letter. |
| [04:45:00] | gnarface: | which chipset is your motherboard using again? |
| [04:45:00] | jemarcks: | SiS |
| [04:45:00] | gnarface: | you sure this isn't a firmware loading issue? |
| [04:45:00] | cinix: | What is jarods guide? Where can I read it? |
| [04:45:00] | gnarface: | does the pvr150 softload the firmware like the pvr250 does? |
| [04:45:00] | jemarcks: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [04:45:00] | gnarface: | hey jemarcks |
| [04:46:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface yes. the firmware is in /lib/modules |
| [04:46:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [04:46:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface i even loaded the firmware files off of the dist CD to make sure i had the correct versions for my card too |
| [04:47:00] | cinix: | Hmm... all these howto's explain how to create the mythtv schema's, but what creates the tables? |
| [04:47:00] | gnarface: | heh. that's where i screwed up. i pitched my cd too early. |
| [04:47:00] | gnarface: | microwaved it actually. |
| [04:47:00] | jemarcks: | ewww |
| [04:47:00] | gnarface: | jemarcks maybe your problem is fedora |
| [04:47:00] | jemarcks: | you can get them from the manf website |
| [04:48:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, what problem with fedora |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | lol |
| [04:48:00] | jemarcks: | i did a dist-update |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | the problem about it sucking |
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| [04:48:00] | jemarcks: | welllllll... yeah. many say it works fine for them |
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| [04:49:00] | jemarcks: | im about ready to just install the knoppmyth CD and try that |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | *shrug* |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | hey |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | do it |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | got the image downloaded already? |
| [04:49:00] | jemarcks: | its suspossed to be a turnkey thing. Yes i do. :D |
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| [04:49:00] | jemarcks: | already got it burned on a CD |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | well shit man |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | what are you waiting for? |
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| [04:50:00] | gnarface: | make sure you report your results back here |
| [04:50:00] | jemarcks: | lol... im such a geek.. i hate to give up on this system with out knowing 'why' it wont work when others get it to work. |
| [04:50:00] | jemarcks: | grrr |
| [04:50:00] | gnarface: | it sounds to me like a problem with devfs |
| [04:51:00] | jemarcks: | it sux... the number of hours i have spent on this in the last month. |
| [04:51:00] | gnarface: | you could try recompiling your kernel to drop it compeltely |
| [04:51:00] | gnarface: | but then |
| [04:51:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... im not into all that recompiling and update shit... i just want a myth box to work |
| [04:51:00] | gnarface: | what happens when you cat /dev/video0 |
| [04:51:00] | gnarface: | ? |
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| [04:52:00] | gnarface: | do you gat a valid mpeg file or just nada? |
| [04:52:00] | jemarcks: | if the input is svideo, i get a nice picture and static for audio... with a small amout of the actual audio mixed in.... |
| [04:53:00] | jemarcks: | if i pick tuner0 (coax), i get noise on video and static audio |
| [04:53:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [04:53:00] | gnarface: | you want to be using svideo |
| [04:53:00] | jemarcks: | in mythfrontend, livetv starts up and then it freezes... eventually dumps back to the main screen |
| [04:54:00] | jemarcks: | i know |
| [04:54:00] | jemarcks: | ill take tuner0 on coax to get started lol |
| [04:55:00] | jemarcks: | gnarface, have you any clues? |
| [04:55:00] | gnarface: | not really. |
| [04:55:00] | gnarface: | not without knowing what changed. |
| [04:56:00] | gnarface: | do you know if myth is getting the right source even on startup? |
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| [04:56:00] | jemarcks: | not certian, but i used setup to preset the channel to 3 |
| [04:57:00] | gnarface: | see if you can figure out what video source its gonna try to use |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_INPUT |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | Input = 6 |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMOUTPUT |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMAUDIO |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | Input : 0 |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | Name : Tuner Audio In |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | Input : 1 |
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| [04:58:00] | jemarcks: | Name : Audio Line In |
| [04:58:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_AUDIO |
| [04:58:00] | jemarcks: | Input = 0: Tuner Audio In |
| [04:58:00] | jemarcks: | tuner0 and tuner audio in |
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| [04:59:00] | jemarcks: | coax |
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| [05:02:00] | jemarcks: | bedtime yall |
| [05:02:00] | jemarcks: | ttyl |
| [05:05:00] | cinix: | I can't for the life of me determine what process creates the mythtv tables in mysql, and now I get th error Table 'mythconverg.program' doesn't exist |
| [05:05:00] | gnarface: | heh. i'm still trying to set it up myself. gimme a few. |
| [05:07:00] | cinix: | hmm I bet the backend can detect an empty schema and will create it all then. if it's not empty it assumes it's fine |
| [05:07:00] | cinix: | that kinda leaves me screwed since I don't know how the table is setup |
| [05:09:00] | gnarface: | have you tried just dumping the whole database? |
| [05:10:00] | cinix: | nope |
| [05:10:00] | cinix: | I did just recreate the progrma table though, that's all set |
| [05:10:00] | cinix: | back to my original issue of it grabbing the tv guide with an offset |
| [05:11:00] | rpete: | hm, is this the dst bug? |
| [05:11:00] | ** rpete didn't see original problem ** | |
| [05:11:00] | cinix: | Grabbing data for Wed May 4 2005 offset 1, set in mythtv-setup to nothing though |
| [05:11:00] | cinix: | dst bug? maybe? haven't herd of it |
| [05:11:00] | rpete: | okay, nevermind |
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| [05:14:00] | cinix: | rpete, I looked up some info and it seems like the dst bug is related to qt 3.3.4, which is what I'm running. Is there a fix for this? This may be my problem and the xmltv grabber maybe just be misleading me |
| [05:14:00] | rpete: | cinix, which version of mythtv? |
| [05:15:00] | cinix: | 0.17 |
| [05:15:00] | rpete: | ah, that is the dst bug |
| [05:15:00] | rpete: | which timezone are you? |
| [05:15:00] | cinix: | EST |
| [05:16:00] | rpete: | okay, without installing 0.18 or downgrading qt, there is a quick fix involving changing your timezone |
| [05:16:00] | rpete: | link /etc/localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Virgin |
| [05:17:00] | rpete: | then run mythfilldatabase --refresh-second |
| [05:17:00] | rpete: | your next two days listings should be fixed |
| [05:17:00] | rpete: | your computer time will not change |
| [05:17:00] | rpete: | but you want to change it back to EST5EDT before October :-) |
| [05:17:00] | RossTFarian: | Is anyone else having a problem with mythfilldatabase and datadirect? I'm getting 'error 500 internal server error' from the wgets :( |
| [05:18:00] | cinix: | RossTFarian, sounds like yoru subscription is up |
| [05:18:00] | RossTFarian: | no – it's active |
| [05:18:00] | cinix: | i'd log in and double check, other then that not sure. works for me |
| [05:19:00] | RossTFarian: | zap2it *lost* my line-up ?!? |
| [05:19:00] | RossTFarian: | I'm recreating it now ... hmm |
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| [05:20:00] | goodtod: | when i do modprobe bttv tuner=2 card=34 everything works perfect but i can't figure out what to put in modules.conf to emulate these esettings |
| [05:21:00] | goodtod: | can anyone help? |
| [05:21:00] | RossTFarian: | goodtod – what os, what ivtv, what mythtv? |
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| [05:22:00] | goodtod: | RossTFarian: KnoppMyth (debian), no ivtv, mythtv .18 |
| [05:23:00] | goodtod: | RossTFarian: i tried putting options bttv card=34 tuner=2 after the alias line but it didn't work |
| [05:23:00] | RossTFarian: | what's in your modules.conf – what alias lines? |
| [05:24:00] | RossTFarian: | only thing I can think of is to look a module loading order using lsmod before you rmmod, and then looking at modules loaded after doing a modprobe |
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| [05:25:00] | goodtod: | but how can i see what paramaters a module has with lsmod? |
| [05:25:00] | RossTFarian: | lsmod will tell you if the module loaded at all upon boot – that's a good place to start |
| [05:26:00] | goodtod: | well, i know it is loaded upon boot because i see video, it just uses the wrong settings for my tuner |
| [05:26:00] | cinix: | goodtod, no promises but I believe you just add a line 'options bttv [options here]' |
| [05:27:00] | goodtod: | cinix: i did that but where |
| [05:27:00] | goodtod: | cinix: after the alias line? |
| [05:27:00] | cinix: | that's where I would put it, probably doesn't matter |
| [05:27:00] | cinix: | good to be organized though |
| [05:28:00] | goodtod: | cinix: didn't work for me |
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| [05:29:00] | cinix: | heh sorry just read up and saw you said exactly what I said before :-P |
| [05:30:00] | goodtod: | ;) |
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| [05:32:00] | cinix: | Maybe modprobe doesn't consider the options set in /etc/modules.conf, try using insmod instead |
| [05:34:00] | goodtod: | the modprobe works |
| [05:34:00] | goodtod: | i want it to load automatically with the right options |
| [05:35:00] | cinix: | oh, how are you testing it? |
| [05:35:00] | goodtod: | well, if i boot up |
| [05:35:00] | goodtod: | xawtv -c /dev/video0 |
| [05:35:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | does dmesg tell you what options? |
| [05:35:00] | goodtod: | it gives me the wrong channels |
| [05:35:00] | goodtod: | rmmod bttv && modprobe bttv tuner=2 card=34 makes it work |
| [05:35:00] | goodtod: | sparky_not_so_el: not sure i'll try |
| [05:36:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | and if your using knoppmyth you can see whats in /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv |
| [05:36:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | and see if you can add the options there or see whats already there |
| [05:36:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | remember to run depmod and update-modules after it |
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| [05:37:00] | goodtod: | sparky_not_so_el: in /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv i have alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [05:37:00] | goodtod: | what is videodev? |
| [05:38:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | a videodevice ...? its in my file for ivtv and it works... |
| [05:38:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | my ivtv has a few option lines |
| [05:38:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | as well |
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| [05:41:00] | goodtod: | hmmno matter what i do modules.conf doesnt seem to change |
| [05:43:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | dunno then |
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| [05:43:00] | goodtod: | sparky_not_so_el: wow i think it worked |
| [05:43:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | : ) |
| [05:44:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | i'm just waiting for mythtv 0.18 to finish compiling and then hopefully that will work as well, and we can all be happy |
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| [05:45:00] | cinix: | I can't get the timezone fix to fix. My /etc/timezone was set to Americas/NewYork, so I went the other way and set it to EST5EDT, which didn't work, so I then set it to Americas/Virgin still nothing. |
| [05:45:00] | goodtod: | sparky_not_so_el: gentoo? |
| [05:45:00] | cinix: | I tried to set the offset in mythtv-setup too. It's an hour behind, so I set +0100, but it didn't change the times at all, so maybe I'm not doing something right |
| [05:45:00] | rpete: | cinix, EST5EDT is the same as new york |
| [05:45:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | cinix, i had the same problem |
| [05:45:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | did you apt get update? |
| [05:46:00] | rpete: | cinix, after setting to virgin, did you run mythfilldatabase? |
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| [05:46:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | goodtod, i'm on debian...but did an upgrade and a new qt library breaks the offset in mythtv |
| [05:46:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | so i'm compiling myth 0.18 as I can't find debs for it |
| [05:46:00] | cinix: | I bet I didn't, that would make sense. |
| [05:46:00] | rpete: | cinix, get rid of the offset, set timezone to virgin, run mythfilldatabase --refresh-second and see if listings are fixed |
| [05:47:00] | rpete: | then remember to upgrade to 0.18 and set timezone back before october |
| [05:47:00] | cinix: | heh yea I did, ran --refresh-today --refresh-second |
| [05:47:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | cinix, did you update your software? |
| [05:47:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | like apt-get pdate? |
| [05:47:00] | cinix: | :) never rembmer :-P |
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| [05:47:00] | cinix: | yea softwares up to date as far as debian packages go |
| [05:48:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | bc no matter what I do the time is off in mythtv |
| [05:48:00] | rpete: | well the timezone change *should* fix your problem |
| [05:48:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | its due to a bug fix in a qt library |
| [05:48:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | which breaks a workaround in mythtv 0.17 |
| [05:49:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | so i'm compiling 0.18 |
| [05:49:00] | cinix: | got it, think it's working now |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | with virgin timezone? |
| [05:49:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | you would be lucky if it worked for you...can't get anything to work for me |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | sparky_not_so_el, what time zone are you in? :-) |
| [05:49:00] | cinix: | not sure if running mythfilldatabase a second time fixed it, maybe I didn't really do it. but I also rebooted the backend and thats when the changes appeard on mythweb |
| [05:49:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | EDT |
| [05:49:00] | cinix: | Yup with virgin |
| [05:50:00] | rpete: | sparky_not_so_el, this same fix would work for you |
| [05:50:00] | cinix: | and works good, thanks |
| [05:50:00] | rpete: | cinix, yeah, you also have to restart backend, sorry I didn't mention that |
| [05:50:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | rpete, i removed all data from the program database table |
| [05:50:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | then ran mythfilldatabase |
| [05:50:00] | rpete: | sparky_not_so_el, but did you change the time zone? |
| [05:51:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | how? |
| [05:51:00] | rpete: | link /etc/localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Virgin |
| [05:52:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | ok |
| [05:52:00] | rpete: | okay, restart your backend |
| [05:52:00] | rpete: | then run mythfilldatabase --refresh-second |
| [05:53:00] | rpete: | your next two days will be good, then mythfilldatabase running daily will fix the next day listings |
| [05:53:00] | goodtod: | does basically everyone use a happauge card? |
| [05:53:00] | rpete: | and of course upgrade and change timezone back to EST5EDT before october |
| [05:54:00] | rpete: | this dst bug really caught a lot of people out |
| [05:54:00] | rpete: | continues to, I imagine |
| [05:55:00] | rpete: | goodtod, plenty of people still using bttv, some lucky ones have pchdtv |
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| [05:58:00] | Agrajag-: | there's lots of people using dvb cards |
| [05:59:00] | Agrajag-: | mainly in .au and .uk i think |
| [05:59:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | rpete, thanks man that work....no more compiling mythtv 0.18 for me |
| [06:01:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | what do I set it back to in october? |
| [06:01:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | just EDT? |
| [06:02:00] | gnarface: | is .18 in portege yet? |
| [06:02:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | no idea |
| [06:03:00] | rpete: | link /etc/localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT |
| [06:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody have any idea why I would not be able to record something it just gives the option of "do not record" thats all :/ |
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| [06:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnarface: yes its in portage |
| [06:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just good luck getting the front end working :) |
| [06:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | unless you know how to use portage well that is heh |
| [06:05:00] | gnarface: | i see. |
| [06:06:00] | gnarface: | i guess i shall have to learn to use portage well. |
| [06:06:00] | gnarface: | got any more specific pointers? |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it is possible :) |
| [06:06:00] | gnarface: | like, what do i need to know how to do? |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | want to know how I did it? |
| [06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | SlicerDicer-: then you're already recording it? |
| [06:06:00] | gnarface: | sure. |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no Agrajag- it will not give me a record option |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well gnarface a simple way to do it is do this |
| [06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah and im saying it might be saying that because you're already recording it |
| [06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | hence it not giving you the option. |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no its not recording |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnarface: add these to /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | =x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.18 |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | =media-tv/mythfrontend-0.18 |
| [06:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | run emerge mythfrontend it will error out. |
| [06:09:00] | gnarface: | and then what? |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cp /var/tmp/portage/mythfrontend-0.18/mythtv-0.18 /path/to/wherever/you/want |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think that is the proper directory for the final 2 |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | check and make sure its mythfrontend-0.18/mythtv-0.18 |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if not it should be pretty easy |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then cp /path/to/wherever/you/want /var/tmp/portage/mythfrontend-0.18/mythfrontend-0.18 |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but dont activate that untill a proper time |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just leave that in a seperate terminal |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | once it says extracting source on mythfrontend emerge before it errors copy the directory over |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | actually crap |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | use mv -dfr insted of cp |
| [06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does that make sence? |
| [06:12:00] | gnarface: | uh, i think so. |
| [06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what that will do cause there is a problem with extraction of the mythfrontend tarball |
| [06:12:00] | gnarface: | hang on. i'm on emerge --sync still |
| [06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so what happens it extracts it as mythtv-0.18 insted of mythfrontend-0.18 |
| [06:12:00] | gnarface: | say, does anyone happen to have some athlon-friendly pc133 or 100 laying around? |
| [06:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am doublechecking my directories |
| [06:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep all the directories I gave you are right |
| [06:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | >>> Unpacking mythtv-0.18.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/mythfrontend-0.18/work |
| [06:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 35: cd: /var/tmp/portage/mythfrontend-0.18/work/mythfrontend-0.18: No such file or directory |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the error you get |
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| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so if you manually move the tarball into the directory at the right time it wont delete the file and it will just fire away :) |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the way I did it |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and it worked very wel |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | god I have to much freetime |
| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Agrajag-: yeah I dont know what the deal is |
| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it just wont give me a record option :/ |
| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was trying to manually do a recording beings that my channel lineup does not seem to exist |
| [06:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnarface: is that working? |
| [06:24:00] | gnarface: | sorry |
| [06:24:00] | gnarface: | like |
| [06:24:00] | gnarface: | still updating portege cache |
| [06:24:00] | gnarface: | seriously |
| [06:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what speed is that box? |
| [06:24:00] | gnarface: | does anyone have some spare pc100 laying around? |
| [06:24:00] | gnarface: | pc100 or pc133 will do, just as long as its picky-athlon-safe |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | where do you live gnarface? |
| [06:25:00] | gnarface: | LA |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | drat |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you lived in seattle I know where you can get some el-cheapo ram at a local store hehe |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | look around in your area for a PC-Recycler and they should have it for dirt cheap |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there has to be one |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I did for my 400mhz Mac G3 |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | either that or buy a clearance 32bit mobo and toss ddr ram in there its dirt cheap |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got my mobo for my mythtv box for 30 bucks lol it was a damn nice mobo its just 32bit is being fazed out for AMD |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I tried to find a Athlon-XP cpu and it was impossible |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | at least locally |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can get a 512 stick of ddr 400 for like 41$ from newegg and its corsair! :) its a pretty minimal investment IMO |
| [06:28:00] | gnarface: | true enough |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just throwing out some ideas :) |
| [06:29:00] | gnarface: | the only problem is i wanna use my thunderbird 1.4 |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I am using in the mobo I just got |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so hows that for knowing it will work |
| [06:29:00] | gnarface: | which means i'm stuck with only support for pc133 |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ddr 400 works with 1.4 thunderbird if you get the new mobo dont worry |
| [06:29:00] | ** SlicerDicer- is doing it right now ** | |
| [06:29:00] | gnarface: | hmm. |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just grab a mobo that supports your 1.4 thunderbird I dont know of too many that dont and toss in the ram and you wana talk about a fast thunderbird heh |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will give you a link to mobos I know work with the 1.4 |
| [06:31:00] | adante: | i'm trying to cut about 7 seconds out of a show but it won't let me insert cutpoints so close to one another (when I try to insert the second one it says "you are close to an existing cut point etc etc.." – anyway I can work around this? |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/FileList . . . /tech_rz.htm any one of those should work that are AMD boards gnarface |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products . . . 00%20Pro.htm I ran my 1.4 in that one as well for a brief period of time |
| [06:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so yeah all the newer mobos more than likely will accept it and if you buy it locally around nearby you at clearance cost make sure you can return it if it dont work and exchange it for a differnet one there is no harm in trying |
| [06:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nothing else just return the shit and tell them a prefabed story unless they are really cool and dont ask :P |
| [06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol but I am confident it will work unless you grab a AMD64 board or Intel one :P |
| [06:38:00] | gnarface: | hmm. ok, i'll think about it. |
| [06:39:00] | pce-matty: | most RZ gigabyte boards will require a BIOS update |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: mine did not |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but who knows |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: I was just offering some ideas though |
| [06:42:00] | pce-matty: | *nodnod* yep, same here – just offering a bit of advice from someone who builds two or three workstations a day :) |
| [06:42:00] | pce-matty: | of course, my RZ mboard probs were only evident under XP |
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| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: thanks for the advice |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey question for ya maybe if you know |
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| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am trying to set a program to record.... well when I get it all set how I like it and hit save the settings |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I go back to it and its all reverted to do not record this prgram etc |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am trying to figure out why |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is that a database problem? |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or is it going to record it? |
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| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thanks pce-matty :) |
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| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am kinda confused I want to record something in 30 mins hehe but I dont know if its going to happen |
| [06:54:00] | pce-matty: | after you've set a recording, see if it comes up under upcoming (?) recordings (it's another menu option) |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no it does not come up |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I was checking |
| [06:55:00] | pce-matty: | you're running mythfrontend from a terminal so you can see the frontend output? |
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| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeppers |
| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Always do till everything works like buttah |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nothing odd that I can see |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | a quick sidenote if I check set priorities it says good to go and its in there |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but if I look in upcoming it shows nothing? |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is this normal? |
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| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | any ideas? |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or should I just wait and see what happens haha |
| [07:12:00] | gnarface: | argh |
| [07:12:00] | gnarface: | wrong profile!? |
| [07:12:00] | gnarface: | that new motherboard is starting to sound like a decent idea. |
| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did it mainly cause my pc133 mobo died |
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| [07:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Skif: just the person I was hoping for! |
| [07:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | question for ya if you have time |
| [07:21:00] | Skif: | Sure, don't expect much, tho |
| [07:21:00] | Skif: | :) |
| [07:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | never expect anything just hope :) |
| [07:22:00] | Skif: | whatup |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok I am going to set a program to record |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well it takes it and I hit save settings |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what your suposto do correct? |
| [07:22:00] | Skif: | oh hell, I'm totally the wrong person for this, dude |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [07:22:00] | Skif: | I stil haven't gotten my tuner working |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh what are you running? |
| [07:22:00] | Skif: | I don't know shit |
| [07:22:00] | Skif: | PVR-500 rev D492 |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I may be able to help |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I can only stab not know for sure |
| [07:23:00] | ** SlicerDicer- makes stabbing motions ** | |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | got ivtv driver installed? |
| [07:23:00] | Skif: | I have installed so many versions of the ivtv driver, it ain't funny |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you try setting the ivtv driver to the proper setting? cause I know I did not do that |
| [07:24:00] | Skif: | define "proper setting" |
| [07:24:00] | Skif: | I have set many varying flags for fun and entertainment, and there is no love. |
| [07:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [07:24:00] | Skif: | that's s-video in |
| [07:24:00] | Skif: | -p 6 and 7 are the tuners |
| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok well on mine 4 is tuner |
| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so like I said I am stabbing |
| [07:25:00] | Skif: | oh, I'm sorry, 4 is composite |
| [07:25:00] | Skif: | mchou thinks it's my tuners aren't supported well yet. |
| [07:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [07:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you set ivtvctl -u 0x3000 |
| [07:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | this is asuming your in USA with NTSC |
| [07:27:00] | Skif: | NO love there either. |
| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | craptastic... |
| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm and you did a cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg and it just showed static? |
| [07:27:00] | Skif: | yep |
| [07:28:00] | Skif: | I also tried about 100 steps from the base frequencey, on the theory that maybe the tuners were just off a bit from the base, but no love there either. |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and you tried testing all the differnent -p 1 2 3 4 5 6 etc just incase it was reading it wrong? |
| [07:28:00] | Skif: | yep |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well damn it... |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I hate to ask this one are you sure that the coax is going into the "tv in" not the "radio in" I dont mean to make you sound like a tard or nothing dont take it the wrong way |
| [07:30:00] | Skif: | nah, I'd ask it too. Nope, I'm positive-- radio in is the top one, tv the one below. |
| [07:31:00] | Skif: | I also switched cables between the tv and the card just to make sure it was plugged in properly. |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn... |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | are you running it through a cable box? |
| [07:31:00] | Skif: | no |
| [07:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I just deleted what I was typing cause your answer made it useless and fruitless to explain heh |
| [07:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I guess I am fresh out of ideas :/ |
| [07:32:00] | Skif: | it's no trouble |
| [07:33:00] | Skif: | I found a guy on the ivtv-devel list with the same card exactly as mine |
| [07:33:00] | Skif: | so I'm piggybacking on his post. |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I tried to my best extent :/ |
| [07:34:00] | Skif: | nah, I'm actually happy it's the tuners that are not working yet. |
| [07:34:00] | Skif: | It means I didn't do anythin stupid. |
| [07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am a total noob to MythTV myself and cannot figure out how to get the bloody thing to record |
| [07:34:00] | ** Skif no clue, eh ** | |
| [07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was hoping it would work cause the movie I wanted to record is on now and it aint recording :/ |
| [07:35:00] | Skif: | bummer |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wonder if I should downgrade to .17 |
| [07:44:00] | gnarface: | hey slicer |
| [07:44:00] | gnarface: | you said you found .18 in the gentoo package list? |
| [07:44:00] | gnarface: | are you using the testing branch? |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think so hehe |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just do ls /usr/portage/media-tv/mythtv/ |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think thats what it is |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah it is |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | should see mythtv-0.18.ebuild |
| [07:50:00] | gnarface: | i see it there |
| [07:50:00] | gnarface: | what would i do with such a file? |
| [07:50:00] | gnarface: | just put |
| [07:50:00] | gnarface: | oh wait |
| [07:51:00] | gnarface: | i havn't put those lines in my packages.keywords |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe thats why I was talking about package.keywords above |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then you should be able to emerge it |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | actually you will need to put in that one as well along with the frontend etc |
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| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you can look on the gentoo wiki for more precice instructions on how to use it if you want |
| [07:53:00] | gnarface: | ok. |
| [07:53:00] | gnarface: | is there a way to search the testing tree? |
| [07:54:00] | gnarface: | for the future you know |
| [07:54:00] | gnarface: | so i can see what versions it has? |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I normally check packages.gentoo.org |
| [07:54:00] | laga: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -s <things> |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it lists each package and what is masked |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: BAD IDEA!!! |
| [07:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | package.keywords and package.mask are the real way to do it |
| [07:55:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: it's ok if he just wants to search. |
| [07:55:00] | gnarface: | oh i see |
| [07:55:00] | gnarface: | ~ means testing? |
| [07:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | true but it wont list all versions |
| [07:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | correct |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mythtv |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the way I look at packages |
| [07:56:00] | hachi: | is there any way to adjust the recording color balance under mythtv? |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | much more precice |
| [07:56:00] | Bogus8: | "oh geez, my duodenum's acting up" |
| [07:57:00] | gnarface: | i see. there's no command-line equivalent? |
| [07:57:00] | Bogus8: | well, I got the new IVTV driver 0.3.4a and STILL no audio on my PVR150 :( |
| [07:57:00] | Skif: | Bogus8: do you have the audio ROM in /lib/modules? |
| [07:57:00] | Bogus8: | Skif: the who? |
| [07:58:00] | Bogus8: | HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [07:58:00] | Bogus8: | I have that |
| [07:58:00] | Skif: | That's the one. |
| [07:58:00] | gnarface: | SlicerDicer-: that is very useful though, btw. thanks. |
| [07:58:00] | Skif: | okay, I'm fresh out of ideas, then |
| [07:58:00] | Skif: | :) |
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| [07:59:00] | Bogus8: | Skif: well it was a new one... I was excited for a second |
| [07:59:00] | Skif: | Bogus8: hell, I still haven't gotten anything but static on my 500 :-\ |
| [07:59:00] | Bogus8: | what distro? |
| [07:59:00] | Skif: | ubuntu, as it happens, but with a stock 2.6.11.8 kernel |
| [08:00:00] | Skif: | and almost every version of ivtv driver ever :-\ |
| [08:00:00] | Bogus8: | Skif: ah i'm using FC3 and the how-to linked on mythtv.org |
| [08:01:00] | Skif: | Bogus8: eh, seems I have new tuners on this card ivtv doesn't quite handle properly yet |
| [08:01:00] | Bogus8: | which are they? |
| [08:01:00] | Bogus8: | Skif: I have tuner 39 |
| [08:01:00] | ** Skif has 57 ** | |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnarface: your welcome :) |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | only reason I state to do it that way even if its a bit of a pain is cause of if you ever run emerge --update world you may run into downgrades a plenty |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi Bogus8 |
| [08:03:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: hola.. how are things going for you today? |
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| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not to well :) |
| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant get mythtv to record |
| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am downgrading in hopes that it will fix it I dont know how well 0.18 runs |
| [08:04:00] | Bogus8: | mine is same as yesterday but I backed up and reinstalled win2k for someone and got them to clean my house in exchange... so my day went ok ;) |
| [08:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | one of my favorite movies was on and was going to test recording it and all it did was sit there :/ |
| [08:06:00] | Bogus8: | that sucks |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I am downgrading to 0.17 heh |
| [08:06:00] | Bogus8: | yeah, I see stuff I wish I could record... I could but it wouldn't have audio :( |
| [08:06:00] | Bogus8: | thought about it |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why no audio? |
| [08:06:00] | Bogus8: | are you asking me? |
| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [08:07:00] | Bogus8: | I don't know... i've tried several things |
| [08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do you have audio output to the frontend? just wondering incase this is something I have to worry about |
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| [08:09:00] | Bogus8: | I thought of that... I've streamed to mplayer... i've run some windows clients and get no audio still |
| [08:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | using alsa? |
| [08:09:00] | Bogus8: | cat'd to a file and played back... no audio |
| [08:09:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: i'm sure trying |
| [08:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I may be able to help if your not getting audio at all |
| [08:10:00] | P0wer1: | any1 know what this mean " Your board has no valid PCI Subsystem ID and thus can't be autodetected. Please pass card=<n> insmod option to workaround that." |
| [08:10:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: I can get audio in my line in on the sound card (straight, not through the captuer system) |
| [08:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do you not have oss emulation? |
| [08:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I do know that something was stated that mythtv works off oss |
| [08:10:00] | Bob-Laptop-Away: | I am so glad mine "just worked" |
| [08:11:00] | ** Bob-Laptop-Away ducks ** | |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bob-Laptop-Away: :) |
| [08:11:00] | ** SlicerDicer- flings a random object at Bob-Laptop-Away :P ** | |
| [08:11:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: yeah I have aumix (that's oss right) |
| [08:11:00] | P0wer1: | any1 know what this dmesg output means when loading cx8800 module? " Your board has no valid PCI Subsystem ID and thus can't be autodetected. Please pass card=<n> insmod option to workaround that." |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not really sure on that one Bogus8 |
| [08:12:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: that's what someone else said.. so I don't know either (i forgot who said it now to know if they know their shit or not) |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah apparently it seems that it is |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what distro are you using? |
| [08:13:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: FC3 |
| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you run alsamixer and make sure that your sound is turned up? |
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| [08:15:00] | Trentster: | any1 know what this dmesg output means when loading cx8800 module? " Your board has no valid PCI Subsystem ID and thus can't be autodetected. Please pass card=<n> insmod option to workaround that." |
| [08:15:00] | Agrajag-: | uhh well did you read it? |
| [08:15:00] | Agrajag-: | it explains pretty well what you have to do |
| [08:16:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: oh yeah.. serveral times.. and aumix |
| [08:16:00] | hachi: | it means precisely what it says. |
| [08:18:00] | Trentster: | Well can you explain to me how i do this insmod option ive tried keep getting syntax error. |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | well something like "modprobe cx8800 card=0x69" |
| [08:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: well crap... |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | where 0x69 is whatever card your card is |
| [08:19:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: word |
| [08:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am considering the idea that a guy in #gentoo had of using knoppmyth heh |
| [08:19:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: I got my dmesg stuff (one with 0.3.3p and one with 0.3.4a) on http://www.shspvr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7980 |
| [08:20:00] | gnarface: | hey |
| [08:20:00] | gnarface: | slicerdicer |
| [08:20:00] | gnarface: | Calculating dependencies |
| [08:20:00] | gnarface: | !!! Problem in x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.0-r4 dependencies. |
| [08:20:00] | gnarface: | !!! "Specific key requires an operator (x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.0-r4) (try adding an '=')" exceptions |
| [08:21:00] | gnarface: | that means i need to use the testing x.org too? |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not exactly sure on that error |
| [08:23:00] | gnarface: | oh i see |
| [08:23:00] | gnarface: | [blocks B ] <x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.0-r4 (from pkg x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1) |
| [08:24:00] | gnarface: | so this means x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1 is in conflict? |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | correct! |
| [08:24:00] | gnarface: | so like |
| [08:24:00] | gnarface: | rip it out with pliers? |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | emerge -C xorg-x11 |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then run your emerge that you were attempting before |
| [08:25:00] | gnarface: | it won't touch my xorg.conf right? |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I doubt it if your real concerned do a 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /root/xorg.conf' as root then if its wiped just 'cp /root/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf' |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I always leave a backup of my xorg.conf in /root cause I know it wont be messed with anyway |
| [08:27:00] | gnarface: | fair 'nuff |
| [08:27:00] | gnarface: | so q: why wouldn't it just upgrade this package on its own? |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: well thanks for the reply in #gentoo |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will just continue with the current plan of downgrade |
| [08:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnarface: I am not sure I had that problem on this box but not others its strange |
| [08:28:00] | ** pce-matty wakes up ** | |
| [08:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | although I always run a emerge --pretend foo before I do emerge just to see what its going to do or if there are problems :) so I never saw that error you did |
| [08:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: I have no idea really on the pvr-150 I heard that it can be a real pain to do though |
| [08:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey pce-matty I take it you run gentoo? |
| [08:30:00] | Bogus8: | yeah, it's all still new.. I think it depends which tuner you get... so basically it's a crap shoot :( |
| [08:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
| [08:30:00] | pce-matty: | here at work I build gentoo and ubuntu based solutions |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I went for the gusto and got the pvr-350 and it fired away like crazy but just wont record |
| [08:31:00] | pce-matty: | mythtv project that I'm finalising now is gentoo based |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: ahh ok cool |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what version of mythtv are you currently running that is stable or have you finished that testing yet |
| [08:32:00] | pce-matty: | 0.18 |
| [08:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm mine went batshit... |
| [08:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it wont record... |
| [08:32:00] | pce-matty: | yah, you mentioned something about that |
| [08:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | perhaps you can lend me a hand? |
| [08:33:00] | pce-matty: | to be honest, my myth installation stuff hasn't skipped a beat |
| [08:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not getting any odd outputs in my term when I run mythfrontend and try to set a program to record |
| [08:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I get one odd thing let me paste it to rafb maybe you can help solve this who knows |
| [08:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/mu7t4M78.html there is a paste maybe you can shed some light |
| [08:34:00] | pce-matty: | i've had to blitz the mysql database info ( ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge mysqlnavigator ) |
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| [08:34:00] | pce-matty: | a few times |
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| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | this box is AMD64 that stuff segfaults I use cocoa mysql on my G4 :) |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | works great for that |
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| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you get those sql errors? |
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| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | holy shit.... |
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| [08:37:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [08:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | massive db errors in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [08:38:00] | pce-matty: | urgh, new project has come up for me on the company Sharepoint |
| [08:39:00] | pce-matty: | "make linux livecd for porn browsing and p2p filesharing" |
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| [08:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there are unknown database errors :/ |
| [08:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: ?!?! wtf.... |
| [08:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know enough about mysql to understand these errors |
| [08:40:00] | pce-matty: | slicerdicer: the tech bay here is chock full of windows xp machines which are totally broken coz of spyware |
| [08:40:00] | pce-matty: | slicerdicer: lemme have a look at the link you did |
| [08:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty: that aint shit compared to the errors I am looking at now |
| [08:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just checked my var log.... |
| [08:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so many errors it completely ate my terminal |
| [08:41:00] | pce-matty: | urgh, that looks way nasty :( |
| [08:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well wait till you see this one |
| [08:42:00] | pce-matty: | lemme find the little HOWTO on blitzing and rebuilding your mythtv sql stuff |
| [08:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wana see some nastyness |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Gq9Ykv65.html |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | look at that |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that is ewwww |
| [08:46:00] | pce-matty: | yep, it's chewed |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | figured :P |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well least I know the problem |
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| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I said holy shit haha |
| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did ya find the howto? |
| [08:51:00] | pce-matty: | slicerdicer: i'm having a brain freeze, can't find the howto. you'll want to remove whatever remains of mythconverg and rerun that magic line that loads the base database into mysql |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm... |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
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| [08:54:00] | pce-matty: | slicerdicer: mysqlnavigator is great for having a looksie at mysql databases (works remotely too) |
| [08:54:00] | pce-matty: | just as a curiousity, the mythbox i'm working on is running live in our display room across the road from here |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah... |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just cant seem to login root remotely on my network |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you know how to do that please tell me |
| [08:55:00] | pce-matty: | we've got a pretty nice setup here – i'm communicate with all our boxes over a dedicated wireless link (about 50meters) |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause I would like to do it with this box as it already has mysqlnavigator |
| [08:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | compiling that on 1.4ghz will be a bitch heh |
| [08:56:00] | pce-matty: | well mysqlnavigator will connect to a remote without much trouble |
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| [08:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well it says that I am not authorized |
| [08:57:00] | pce-matty: | bummer... you can ssh into the box hosting your database and connect from the commandline using the same password/user ? |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I can ssh in no problem |
| [08:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just cant connect to mysql with root to nuke the old database |
| [08:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know the commands to do it from the mysql prompt either or I would do that |
| [08:59:00] | pce-matty: | your mythtv user should be able to blitz the dbase too.... but i am working on a lack of sleep when i say that :) |
| [08:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brb let me try something |
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| [08:59:00] | pce-matty-afk: | across the road, maybe bbl |
| [09:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | alright |
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| [09:02:00] | KJx: | anybody here using myth with a Hauppauge 401? |
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| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty-afk: yay it seems to be working |
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| [09:48:00] | VLCl: | hi |
| [09:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hot damn... mythtv records nice |
| [09:52:00] | VLCl: | hi |
| [09:58:00] | pce-matty-afk: | slicerdicer: axed your mythconverg and redid it then? |
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| [10:10:00] | phon: | hi everyone |
| [10:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pce-matty-afk: yeah I did |
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| [10:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thanks for the idea :) |
| [10:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am off to sleep now hehe |
| [10:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and when I wake up I will be watching Blazing Saddles! :P |
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| [10:15:00] | phon-: | damn wifi |
| [10:15:00] | phon-: | hi everyone again |
| [10:15:00] | phon-: | can anybody help me with an audio/video sync problem when playing an Mpeg4 file with mplayer ? |
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| [10:21:00] | KJx: | ahello – is anybody here using myth with a Hauppauge 401? |
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| [10:28:00] | phon-: | i'm not |
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| [10:45:00] | furfurfur: | anyone in the UK using an AirStar 2 or SkyStar2? |
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| [10:55:00] | ** beavis uses it in .de ** | |
| [10:56:00] | furfurfur: | it's working OK with MythTV? |
| [10:56:00] | beavis: | great |
| [10:56:00] | beavis: | with auto EPG |
| [10:56:00] | furfurfur: | Excellent... what linux kernel are you running? |
| [10:57:00] | beavis: | since 2.6.10 it's perfect |
| [10:58:00] | furfurfur: | That's good to know. I just need to decide between DVB-S and DVB-T now |
| [10:58:00] | furfurfur: | but that's more of a UK specific decision I guess |
| [10:58:00] | phon-: | anyone knows something about mysql here ? |
| [10:59:00] | phon-: | its a fairly easy question i guess |
| [10:59:00] | phon-: | i need to create a database but don't have the privileges, and don't know how to set them |
| [10:59:00] | beavis: | furfurfur: EIT seems to always work with dvb-t everywhere |
| [10:59:00] | furfurfur: | what is EIT? I am new to the terminology :) |
| [11:00:00] | beavis: | furfurfur: it's the automatic tv guide dvb provides |
| [11:00:00] | beavis: | furfurfur: you don't have to fill your EPG tables with dvb |
| [11:00:00] | furfurfur: | ah. thanks. I thought that would be the case. |
| [11:01:00] | furfurfur: | Just one more thing. Do you use a remote control? |
| [11:02:00] | beavis: | yes the one provided with the card. It works great with lirc_serial |
| [11:03:00] | furfurfur: | sounds like a perfect solution :) |
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| [11:06:00] | beavis: | ;) it's a lot better than my old bttv analogue card. |
| [11:07:00] | furfurfur: | eventually I plan to have two DVB cards to record whist watching live TV. I think that is supported |
| [11:07:00] | beavis: | yes it is |
| [11:08:00] | furfurfur: | Excellent. I am paying about 55 euros per month for Sky+ in the UK which is giving me that functionality |
| [11:08:00] | furfurfur: | but with sky+, sometimes all your programs disappear for no reason :) |
| [11:18:00] | furfurfur: | I assume that with DVB and MythTV – the raw digital data is recorded to your hard drive, with no loss of information. Is that correct? |
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| [11:22:00] | beavis: | yes, just the pure mpeg2 stream ;) |
| [11:22:00] | furfurfur: | mmm lovely :) |
| [11:22:00] | beavis: | as TS or PS |
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| [11:23:00] | phon-: | beavis : you know the difference between TS and PS ? |
| [11:23:00] | beavis: | furfurfur: no need to transcode to what windows users can watch |
| [11:24:00] | phon-: | and maybe the other options in mythtv, because i don't really know what to choose |
| [11:24:00] | furfurfur: | beavis: nice to know. Thanks :) |
| [11:25:00] | beavis: | phon-: take the transport stream, comm-flagging seems to work better with the original TS |
| [11:25:00] | beavis: | even if the PS is a bit smaller |
| [11:25:00] | phon-: | hd space isn't really a problem |
| [11:25:00] | phon-: | i want the best option |
| [11:25:00] | phon-: | so i guess i'll go for TS then |
| [11:26:00] | beavis: | yes |
| [11:27:00] | furfurfur: | beavis: you using DVB-S or DVB-T? |
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| [11:34:00] | fweeee: | Hello! Is anyone around who uses knoppMyth? |
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| [11:39:00] | fweeee: | Hello! Is anyone around who uses knoppMyth? |
| [11:39:00] | beavis: | dvb-t |
| [11:40:00] | furfurfur: | thanks |
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| [11:44:00] | fweeee: | Can anyone help me with a few simple questions? I think they may be more related to linux then mythtv (I am new to both). |
| [11:44:00] | Tommck: | ask the questinos |
| [11:45:00] | fweeee: | Ok. Stupid question... But for the life of me I cant set the IP address on it. |
| [11:45:00] | fweeee: | I'm using the ifconfig lines. And it looks like its set. |
| [11:45:00] | fweeee: | But it doesnt work. |
| [11:45:00] | laga: | ifconfig ethX 192.168.0.something |
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| [11:45:00] | fweeee: | Yeah. broadcast is linux talk for "default gateway" in windows, right? |
| [11:46:00] | laga: | nope. |
| [11:46:00] | fweeee: | No? That would explain it. |
| [11:46:00] | laga: | you set the default gateway with "route add default gw x.x.x.x" |
| [11:47:00] | fweeee: | Ahhhh |
| [11:48:00] | fweeee: | Hmmmm. Network is unreachable. |
| [11:50:00] | fweeee: | Ahhh, just set the broadcast back to 0.0.0.0 |
| [11:50:00] | fweeee: | Its happier now. |
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| [11:52:00] | Chacabaou: | Hello. |
| [11:52:00] | Chacabaou: | Is there any lirc-key for backspace/delete for editing alphanumerical fields with the num-pad of the remote control? |
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| [11:57:00] | fweeee: | DAmn. I rebooted, and lost my settings! |
| [11:57:00] | laga: | fweeee: that's normal. |
| [11:58:00] | fweeee: | I dont want to loose my settings! |
| [11:58:00] | fweeee: | I want to keep them. |
| [11:58:00] | laga: | i have no idea where to set it permanently, your distro usually provides tools for this |
| [11:59:00] | fweeee: | ok then. |
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| [12:12:00] | fweeee: | Thanks laga. Did a bit of googling for it. Think I have it... |
| [12:12:00] | laga: | np |
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| [13:02:00] | furfurfur: | Hi all. If I have a backend with a tuner, and a frontend with no tuner, can I watch live TV on the frontend? |
| [13:02:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [13:02:00] | furfurfur: | Woo! |
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| [13:02:00] | furfurfur: | That rocks |
| [13:03:00] | st0rmy: | I can use mythtv with a bttv card? |
| [13:03:00] | st0rmy: | what if I don't have an xmltv server where I am situated, can I still watch tv? |
| [13:03:00] | furfurfur: | I already have a slimline PC based around a EPIA mobo. But no room for a PCI card. So I'll stick the tuner in another machine. |
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| [13:19:00] | furfurfur: | anyone using an Xbox as a frontend? any good? |
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| [16:51:00] | KJx: | hi – anybody here have any experiences with myth and snd_bt87x ? |
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| [17:08:00] | xris: | ok, so when setting up the mythbox for my company, which distro do I use? ubuntu, suse or fedora? |
| [17:08:00] | ** laga votes for fedora ** | |
| [17:09:00] | ** cyberknet votes fedora ** | |
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| [17:09:00] | xris: | heh |
| [17:09:00] | ** xris has issues with fedora politics lately. ** | |
| [17:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | hey everyone |
| [17:09:00] | cyberknet: | * Beirdo votes gentoo |
| [17:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | my stuff was crashing alot, so i reinstalled everything – now i get this message: "ivtv: ENC Stream 2 OVERFLOW #xxxx: Stealing a Buffer, 4194668 currently allocated |
| [17:09:00] | xris: | cyberknet: lol |
| [17:09:00] | cyberknet is now known as Bierdo | |
| [17:09:00] | ** Bierdo votes gentoo ** | |
| [17:09:00] | Bierdo is now known as CyberKnet | |
| [17:09:00] | xris: | kormoc votes gentoo, but it's not on the list. |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: rotfl |
| [17:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | what are we voting on? fave distro? |
| [17:10:00] | ** cortezdapimp votes knoppmyth ** | |
| [17:10:00] | xris: | no, distro for my company's new mythbox |
| [17:10:00] | cortezdapimp: | ah |
| [17:10:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: nah. just what xris should install his myth box as |
| [17:10:00] | cortezdapimp: | my vote stands. |
| [17:10:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: my mythbox at home is going ubuntu, I think. |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | BTW, has anyone seen the hitchhikers movie yet? |
| [17:10:00] | cortezdapimp: | i heard it was so-so |
| [17:10:00] | xris: | laga: saw it last night |
| [17:10:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: I've never looked at politics when deciding my OS... *shrug* |
| [17:10:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: I'm *involved* in the politics |
| [17:10:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm not going to see it. |
| [17:11:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: Well yes, I can see how that may leave a sour taste in your mouth =) |
| [17:11:00] | xris: | and want not to be. |
| [17:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | so... anyone seen that stealing a buffer message? |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: You guys are gonna put one out? Cool. I had thought it was not enough profit |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | xris: did you like it? i'm very disappointed |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris ubuntu, suse or fedora? ppffft, slackware |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [17:12:00] | joshe1: | hi guys... I've finally got my mythbox connected to my HD at 1080i. But got overscan issues. Do you know what GUI parameter to adjust? http://69.108.167.244/overscansux.jpg |
| [17:12:00] | ** CyberKnet holds a minutes silence in memorium of Slakware ** | |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's hardly dead |
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| [17:12:00] | xris: | laga: it was funny, worth seeing |
| [17:12:00] | CyberKnet: | Netcraft confirms it =) |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: Uh huh :) |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | xris: do you knwo the books? ;) |
| [17:13:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I saw it in a microsoft press release. |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | know* |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I bet you did :) |
| [17:13:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Patrick said it himself! |
| [17:13:00] | xris: | laga: it was a radio drama first. haven't read the books, just seen the BBC tv series and listened to the radio drama. |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cyber" And yet I still thing you are full of crap :) |
| [17:13:00] | xris: | and it was "close enough" for me. |
| [17:14:00] | CyberKnet: | "<Patty RinkyDink> Guys... Slackware is dying" |
| [17:14:00] | CyberKnet: | see? |
| [17:14:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: What sort of specs are you guys planning for your mythboxes ? |
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| [17:14:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: no, this is just one for in-office use. |
| [17:14:00] | ** CyberKnet pays homage to Slackware, his first linux box ** | |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh ok |
| [17:14:00] | xris: | random parts thrown together. |
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| [17:14:00] | CyberKnet: | and xris got an air2pc... lucky guy =) |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I thought it was gonna be a settop box with myth on it heh |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: free one, even. |
| [17:15:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: REALLY lucky guy |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | all because jarod now uses firewire for his inputs |
| [17:15:00] | Scooty: | Has anyone had there language change to something other than english after upgrading to 0.18 from atrpms? |
| [17:15:00] | kormoc: | This just in, in a recent Netcraft survey, everything is dying. |
| [17:15:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: OMG... I'm dying?!@!#$@ |
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| [17:15:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: every day |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: every minute you live, you're closer to death than before. |
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| [17:16:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: up until a finite point when they find a way to wire my brain into a computer =) |
| [17:16:00] | CyberKnet: | at which point I will become only so many bits and bytes.... |
| [17:16:00] | kormoc: | you never heard of computer hardware dying? |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: I'm gonna kick yer ass :) |
| [17:17:00] | ** CyberKnet guesses about 16 bits, and 32 bytes. ** | |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i hope someone will make backups... |
| [17:17:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: What ever for? =) |
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| [17:17:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: you do |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | naw |
| [17:17:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: crap. =) |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | being a silly wanker :) |
| [17:17:00] | ** kormoc patches CyberKnet's brain ** | |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | shawarma |
| [17:17:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: well then maybe instead of "passing time" in the latrine you should pay more attention =) |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | I was getting lunch, silly |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | he's always getting lunch |
| [17:18:00] | CyberKnet: | "lunch" |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | whatever :) |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [17:18:00] | Scooty: | Does anyone know if the language MythYV runs in is dictated by the package that's installed? I don't see anything telling me it would be a different language but it's deffinelty changed |
| [17:18:00] | CyberKnet: | mmmm... snickers |
| [17:19:00] | joshe1: | Arggghhh I hate overscan damnit |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | Scooty: change it in the frontend |
| [17:20:00] | Scooty: | where at? |
| [17:20:00] | Scooty: | I couldn't find a language setting |
| [17:20:00] | Scooty: | but it was all in this other language so that didn't help |
| [17:20:00] | joshe1 is now known as joshebel | |
| [17:21:00] | Scooty: | is there a way to change it from the command line I can SSH into my box right now |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | you can change it in the database |
| [17:22:00] | Scooty: | okay cool, is it in the mythconverge table? |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | yep. settings, to be more specific |
| [17:22:00] | joshebel: | Berido: Do you know which GUI offset I should mod to fix this? http://ebel.no-ip.com/overscansux.jpg |
| [17:22:00] | Scooty: | Okay I'll take a look, Thanks! |
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| [17:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | joshebel: Why not just keep changing the values until you find what you like ? That's what most everyone who feels the need does |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmmm, falafel |
| [17:25:00] | joshebel: | GreyFoxx: I have tried so many settings. But I'm not seeing much of a diff. That's why I'm asking which one is 'supposed' to be the magic one. :) |
| [17:26:00] | laga: | yay. 31 days uptime for my mythtv box. |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | change the overscan settings in your x config |
| [17:27:00] | joshebel: | Beirdo: It's not a Nvidia though. |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: pffft. |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: n00b |
| [17:27:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: every day is a day more.. ;) |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | but i royally fucked up the rpm database. |
| [17:28:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: Indeed. How long until you need to change out your kernel? =) |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | joshebel: so? |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i cant install new stuff ATM, my rpm doesnt want to run most of the scriptlets |
| [17:28:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: I had six months uptime on my production myth box before I rebooted it to install a new kernel. |
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| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | 90 days on my PVR |
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| [17:29:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: there is no need to install a new kernel for me ;) |
| [17:29:00] | joshebel: | Beirdo: Sorry if I'm being an idiot here. But I though the overscan X config parameters were for Nvidia only. I'll search the archives then. |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | BTW, can anyone access http://laga.dvrdns.org? |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | wow. just a touch too much hot sauce in that falafel sandwich here |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | Beirdo: there's never too much |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | joshebel: other X drivers have support for overscan tweaking too |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | laga: sure there is |
| [17:30:00] | ** kormoc agrees with laga. ** | |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | if it ruins the delicate balance of flavor, it's too much |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | flavour is for whimps ;) |
| [17:30:00] | kormoc: | ooh, so it wasn't just a hot sauce sandwhich? |
| [17:31:00] | kormoc: | Mmm... Excuse for hot sauce... |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | if I wanted just hot sauce, I woulda drank a bottle of hot sauce |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | falafel is yummy |
| [17:31:00] | ** laga is waiting for his parents to get the bbq started ** | |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | and I couldn't taste the tibouleh at all :( |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | sonva... |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | ah well :) |
| [17:32:00] | laga: | :> |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | (lebanese food)++ |
| [17:32:00] | kormoc: | falafel is just a pocket sandwhich? |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | falafel is chick peas ground up, breaded and fried |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | with spices |
| [17:33:00] | kormoc: | ooh! I've had that before, yummy |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | of course |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | very yummy |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | and quite middle-eastern |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | and even xris can eat it :) |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I can't reach that box on port 80 , just times out |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | greg@blurb:~$ telnet laga.dvrdns.org 80 |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Trying 217.1.106.207... |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: that's odd. thank you. |
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| [17:35:00] | laga: | err. i forgot to forward this port. and i can't do it right now because m0n0wall/the floppy drive ate the config again. |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | ooops |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | i was quite pissed when it happened the first time. now i dont care and i just hope that it'll work till my wrt54g arrives |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | shouldn't depend on floppies |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:36:00] | ** xris likes falafel ** | |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | yummy |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Unless you make copies of them first :) |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | cat /dev/fd0 > floppybackup.flp |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: even then... hehe |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | i was *working* on that box when it happened ;) |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | but that's always a good idea |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | OK, need something to drink |
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| [17:38:00] | laga: | hehe. m0n0wall doesnt give you a real shell, btw. just some stupid php page. i tried to do an dd if=/dev/fd0c of /floppy.img, but that only gave me a few sectors :/ |
| [17:38:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: boot from a cd and initialize a ramdrive for /var and /tmp =) |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't even know there was a place to get good falafel near work |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i boot from a CD. but i cant hack it, i'd need a dev environment. and i dont care anyways |
| [17:40:00] | laga: | but m0n0wall is a fine piece of software. for an embedded router. |
| [17:40:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes, it is. |
| [17:40:00] | CyberKnet: | Once you get it set up just so, then making a cd image of it and booting from that is helpful. |
| [17:40:00] | laga: | .oO(...not giving me a real shell on my own freebsd system is a more than deadly sin, though...) |
| [17:40:00] | laga: | oh, you can make a cd image of an existing install? |
| [17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: I dont see why you wouldn't be able to. |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | .oO( ... using freebsd is a deadly sin... ) |
| [17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | .oO( ... BSD is dying... ) |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: umm, yep. i just thought there was some kind of "standard" way |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | BSD is dying? i dont think so. why should it be dying? |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | OpenBSD++ |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | He's just trying to be annoying. :) |
| [17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: dd is my standard |
| [17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | although the wankers that make OpenBSD... Gah! |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | Theo-- |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | Beirdo: do you like openbsd now? |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Ever seen that shad fella around ? He disappeared and hasnt updated his site in a while :) |
| [17:42:00] | kormoc: | laga, netcraft comfirms, bsd is dying! |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | haven't seen him in ages |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | OpenBSD is pretty sweet imho. Theo can be an ass, but does good work |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | wtf is all this talk about netcraft about? ;) |
| [17:42:00] | ** kormoc thinks laga doesn't go to sites with many trolls. ** | |
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| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | Theo IS an ass, but OpenBSD on the whole is pretty decent, especially for a firewall box |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | OpenNTPD is the dumbest thing ever though |
| [17:43:00] | KJx: | I need a little help getting the sound to work (alsa) – anybody got time? |
| [17:44:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: http://pastebin.ca/11047 |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: I've never even looked at that |
| [17:44:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I bet he doesn't know what tubgirl is either... =)) |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | they stripped out the drift calculation and everything else useful (like local clocking) |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | and made a real dumb and half-assed ntpd |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | so I went right back to xntpd, the tried and true |
| [17:47:00] | CyberKnet: | sacrilege! |
| [17:47:00] | CyberKnet: | non-theo-approved software on an openbsd system? shut UP! |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | it was a "we don't understand this complex code, so we're gonna call it a security issue and rewrite it" |
| [17:47:00] | ** xris whacks CyberKnet do NOT mention that word, I'm trying to forget her/it. ** | |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | and in the process, they took the complex *working* code out, and made a pile of shit as a "replacement" |
| [17:48:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: tubba tubby tubber girly tub tubbie tube tubsy gorilla |
| [17:48:00] | ** xris wonders if ChanServ can be made to kick people for mentioning certain things. ** | |
| [17:48:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | like what? |
| [17:48:00] | CyberKnet: | like tubgirl |
| [17:48:00] | kormoc: | set it as a dirty word, censor the channel, kick for violating the censor. |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [17:48:00] | CyberKnet: | ;)) |
| [17:49:00] | ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet with a large trout ** | |
| [17:49:00] | ** xris dumps a bucket of rotten trout on CyberKnet ** | |
| [17:49:00] | kormoc: | should have dumped it down his pants |
| [17:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mmmmmmmmm |
| [17:49:00] | CyberKnet: | troutpant |
| [17:49:00] | ** xris sends CyberKnet to tubgirl's bathroom to wash off. ** | |
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| [17:49:00] | CyberKnet: | Why would I want to wash up in the same room as a butterscotch pudding geyser? |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | i know the ***girl. |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | well, i havent met her in person. i hope. |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | OK, enough, CyberKnet :) |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:50:00] | ** xris praises ^L ** | |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | some of us have recently eaten |
| [17:50:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. |
| [17:50:00] | ** CyberKnet tries not to press ^L to see what it does ** | |
| [17:51:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: it's the clear-screen character |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | form-feed |
| [17:51:00] | CyberKnet: | hah! |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | ^L has been used as FF since ASCII was invented, pretty much |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: thanks for claryfying on the netcraft hingie |
| [17:53:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: You're developing nuvexport, right? |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: Beirdo is developing a desire to retch |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | well, xris and I are. |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | primarily xris, usually :) |
| [17:55:00] | Scooty: | Yay I think my language in changed, I'll know for sure a little later. Thanks! I have one other biggere issue though and that's my listings are off by about an hour and it seemed to start around daylight savings time. |
| [17:55:00] | hadees: | So what do you guys think of the ethical implications are of parsing websites for information to use in mythtv |
| [17:55:00] | Scooty: | I saw one post on the net about that being a QT issue |
| [17:55:00] | Scooty: | anyone know why or a fix for it? |
| [17:55:00] | hadees: | well i guess not ethical, because there is nothing unethical, more like is it okay |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | hadees: my mythtv totally depends on it – there is no zap2it in germany. it's ok for me ;) |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | Scooty: have you read the channel FAQ? |
| [17:56:00] | Scooty: | I guess not yet, I'll go do that, thanks |
| [17:56:00] | hadees: | laga, yeah we had this talk before, hehe, i just think we aren't using the all the information that is available |
| [17:57:00] | hadees: | for example some times my MythTV doesn't always know the correct New episodes |
| [17:57:00] | hadees: | but tvtome.com has a list of them every day |
| [17:57:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: IIRC I told you about a bug, some time ago (you fixed it)...got another, and it's urgent...somehow. ;) Have a little spare time? |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | not at the moment, no |
| [17:58:00] | hadees: | and what about a cross refrence between data from zap2it and tvguide.com |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | you can put in a ticket on the trac page though |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | xris may or may not have time, too |
| [17:58:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, how is nuvexport going? is there a ui tie in to mythtv? |
| [17:58:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Alright. Maybe in a few hours? Or not at all? |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | Well, it's 1pm, and I'm at work until about 6pm |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have the time to be messing with it during the work day |
| [18:00:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Ok, I'll try to write a ticket...though I'm not very good at that. ;) |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | but if you describe the problem in a ticket, you won't have to worry about finding us later on. |
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| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | I hope to add the --force-aspect tonight |
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| [18:04:00] | laga: | *sigh* does anyone know where rpm keeps the scripts that are to be executed when a package is removed? |
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| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | work bought us a bean borrito in celebration of cinco de mayo |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | are they nuts? |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | 150 employees in the office |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | and they buy each one a BEAN borrito |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | pardon my fat fingered spelling |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | turn up the air flow |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | pronto |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | no kidding |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | and dont smoke. |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | ka BOOOM! |
| [18:07:00] | CyberKnet: | taco bueno. gah. |
| [18:07:00] | CyberKnet: | they just dont know how to roll these things. |
| [18:07:00] | CyberKnet: | kind of cold... but I was hungry, so I took it. |
| [18:08:00] | ** Beirdo lights a match ** | |
| [18:08:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | Hey, wanna see something really cool?! |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | my favourite line from "Beavis & Butthead Do America" |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [18:09:00] | CyberKnet: | DriveThru: "Can I help you?" car: "Yes, I'd like to order 300 bean burritos" DriveThru: "?!@!! Is your place of business more than 3 miles from here? There are health codes that would probably be violated here from the gas if you're not" |
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| [18:10:00] | CyberKnet: | mmm... there went the first one out. |
| [18:10:00] | CyberKnet: | nice and rich |
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| [18:10:00] | ** CyberKnet considers what the draw is in a bean burrito ** | |
| [18:10:00] | CyberKnet: | no meat. relatively no cheese. no sour cream. No tomato. No lettuce. no rice. |
| [18:10:00] | ** laga tries to think of bbq'ed meat instead of farts ** | |
| [18:10:00] | CyberKnet: | beans in a tortilla. |
| [18:11:00] | CyberKnet: | I kind of dont get it. |
| [18:11:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cheap stomach filler |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | with protein |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | cheap methane production too |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | his company is probably investigating in alternative energies |
| [18:12:00] | CyberKnet: | probably =) |
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| [18:12:00] | CyberKnet: | Hey I'm already near the microwave they use to burn popcorn. I say bring on the gas. |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | can't be much worse |
| [18:12:00] | CyberKnet: | has to be better |
| [18:12:00] | CyberKnet: | burnt popcorn is something REALLY nasty. |
| [18:13:00] | ** CyberKnet notices a create table taking WAY too long in the work production database ** | |
| [18:13:00] | CyberKnet: | uh-oh. |
| [18:13:00] | CyberKnet: | This could get... bad. |
| [18:13:00] | laga: | i wonder what $1 means for bash. |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | feed it a burrito, CyberKnet |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | laga: first commandline argument |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | man bash |
| [18:14:00] | laga: | thanks |
| [18:14:00] | CyberKnet: | Do you know what photo you SHOULDN'T thin kabout when eating a bean burrito? =)) |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | $1 == argv[1] in C |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | if that helps |
| [18:14:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – im using debian sarge and ive setup mythtv as per the online instructions, but i have nothing in /dev/dv* |
| [18:15:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | im using a 2.6 kernel with dvb-bt87x loaded |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | $1 = split(command$, " ")(0) in vb |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | if that helps |
| [18:15:00] | laga: | http://pastebin.ca/11049 <- because my rpm is having problems executing that. wtf? |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | and it means shift in perl |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | and it means a bean burrito at Tac... Oh Hell |
| [18:16:00] | CyberKnet: | but whatever you do, don't order by saying "Throw a beaner my way, eh?" |
| [18:16:00] | CyberKnet: | that is not good. |
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| [18:19:00] | ** CyberKnet wonders why this is doing a table scan over and over and over and over and over ** | |
| [18:19:00] | ** CyberKnet kills his session and reworks the query ** | |
| [18:19:00] | ** laga kills his rpm and goes back to slackware ** | |
| [18:20:00] | T0mBSt0nE: | i have a wintv-pvr 350 and keep getting "no screens found error when trying to do tv out....how do i fix this? |
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| [18:22:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: *ping* |
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| [18:35:00] | xris: | pong? |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | ping |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | oh. |
| [18:35:00] | xris: | :) |
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| [18:46:00] | bubbajohn: | afternoon all, i am a complete n00b, however I have got myth currently running on fc3 and it is doing well, I decided to try to rip my first dvd today and it seems to be working fine, I chose "good" quality, my question is can i have it transcode any faster? it is a 1 hour 10 minute show and it is setting around 6 hours to transcode. Machine is a amd 2ghz with 256mb ram |
| [18:47:00] | Chacabaou: | xris: Ah, pong! I just asked Beirdo (few minutes ago) for some of his time... maybe you can have a look at the bug, I experienced with nuvexport...actually, I already put it on trac. ;) |
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| [18:55:00] | jasoncohen: | what exactly is in the recordedmarkups table and why is it so large? |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | go look at it |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's all the markups |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | beginning of each GOP, all the commercial flagging markings, etc |
| [18:57:00] | xris: | Chacabaou: if it's on trac, one of us will get to it. |
| [19:00:00] | buahhaha: | I have a question that might be answered somewhere in the documentation but unfortunately I cannot read through all of it because I have a time constraint (so plz don't answer RTFM) – I bought a Cinergy 1200 DVB-C card and the store agreed to let me try for this week if I can get it to work in Linux and return it if I can't, my question is: The card is a budget card so it requires a hefty CPU but I got an idea how an old p3 could act |
| [19:00:00] | buahhaha: | with it anyway, i.e. what I'd like to do is to let the card just capture the mpeg2 stream to the hd in the old box (since I'd rather leave that on 24/7 since it's also my firewall) and then when I want to watch TV I'd just stream the captured or a live stream over my home lan to my athlon 3700+ box, which would decode it. Is this at all possible? That is, to let the old box just capture the stream without processing it at all and then |
| [19:00:00] | buahhaha: | box decode it when I want to watch. |
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| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | you don't want to RTFM, but you want us to read all that? |
| [19:03:00] | slePP: | hehehe |
| [19:03:00] | bubbajohn: | lol |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | I stopped reading after the first sentence |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | anyone have a summary? |
| [19:04:00] | buahhaha: | no, I've tried but if someone knows straight away whether it can or cannot be done I'd know whether I should keep the card or return it tomorrow? |
| [19:06:00] | buahhaha: | if I get the answer; yes it can be done, I'll keep it and figure out how on my own but right now I don't know if it can be done and I have until tomorrow to decide whether to keep the card (and thus not a lot of time to try) |
| [19:06:00] | slePP: | Beirdo: http://pastebin.ca/11053 |
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| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | so you've had a week to evaluate something, and on the last day realize you don't have time to figure it out, so you want a quick answer? |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | go search the web or something |
| [19:08:00] | ** slePP gives a quick answer of 'yes, it can be done' ** | |
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| [19:09:00] | ** slePP hereby wonders if the question was really: 'Can I record a stream on PC #1 and play it back on PC #2?' ** | |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | I will need an executive summary of that screen of text |
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| [19:11:00] | buahhaha: | yes that's the question but PC1 is an old P3 and PC2 is an athlon 3700 so I don't know whether the hw is enough. The old p3 can play back most avis fine but I don't know how much additional processing the streaming adds |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | minimal |
| [19:11:00] | slePP: | if that card does hardware mpeg-2, then it is inconsequential |
| [19:11:00] | buahhaha: | it doesn't, it's a budget card |
| [19:12:00] | slePP: | quote> let the card just capture the mpeg2 stream to the hd in the old box |
| [19:12:00] | slePP: | so you won't be capturing mpeg2 then |
| [19:13:00] | buahhaha: | so it should be doable? |
| [19:15:00] | slePP: | sure |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | slePP: he said dvb, it's all mpeg2 |
| [19:15:00] | slePP: | you should really just try |
| [19:15:00] | slePP: | before you have to take it back |
| [19:15:00] | slePP: | xris: oh. well, then :> |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | buahhaha: sounds feasible. |
| [19:17:00] | slePP: | i'm not privileged enugh to have dvb stuff |
| [19:17:00] | buahhaha: | I guess I'll stay up late tonight then, the hw requirements in the manual only refer to encoding and I've had driver problems on the old box (it works fine on my new one) so I haven't been able to try the streaming (which is why I had to ask) |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | buahhaha: dvb shouldn't be *any* encoding. |
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| [19:19:00] | ** [Klatuu] is working on a lircrc for the SnapStream Firefly ** | |
| [19:21:00] | slePP: | i hate analog nortel pbx's |
| [19:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | I hate nortel SS7 switches |
| [19:21:00] | slePP: | i imagine those aren't much more fun |
| [19:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | they get into "states" |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | go, Nortel |
| [19:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | that make you have to tear everything down and rebuild it |
| [19:22:00] | Chacabaou: | Err...how can I actually reimport my nuv/sql-exports? |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | go right to hell, preferrably |
| [19:23:00] | buahhaha: | allright, thank you for your answers, I'll try even more persistantly to get the card to work in the old box as well so that I can test the streaming, one final question – just in case – if I get some problems with mythtv on the old box; is a cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > somefile and simultaneoulsy reading that and playing it with eg. mplayer in my new box a sufficient test for the hw or does mythtv add much overhead? |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg < blah.sql |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | then type in the password for the mythtv MySQL user (usually mythtv unless you changed it) |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | did I miss anything there, xris? |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | sounds good |
| [19:24:00] | buahhaha: | or any other suggestions for a simple hw test in case I get problems with mythtv? preferably more than just the mpeg2 stream but all dvb content |
| [19:24:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [19:25:00] | slePP: | y'know how hard it is to find an analog line to test pstn echo issues with when yer a voip carrier? :P |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [19:27:00] | ** Beirdo hates writing man pages ** | |
| [19:27:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: And of course I need to copy the .nuvs into my recordings-directory, right? So, the easiest way is to copy the whole bunch of files into $recordings_dir and run `mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg < *.sql && rm *.sql *.txt` ...? |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | close |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | you'd have to run the mysql for each file in turn |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | or cat them together first |
| [19:28:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Isn't "*.sql" the same? |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | that expands to < blah1.sql blah2.sql |
| [19:28:00] | Chacabaou: | What about: mysql ... <(cat *.sql) |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | which won't work |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | cat *.sql | mysql .... |
| [19:29:00] | Chacabaou: | _That_ should be the same, actually. |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:29:00] | Chacabaou: | Why? |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | < (cat *.sql) will try to pipe in the file named what the first line of the first .sql file is |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | or something like that |
| [19:31:00] | Chacabaou: | AFAIK not. |
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| [19:31:00] | Chacabaou: | It will try to pipe a file containing the output of cat *.sql to mysql. |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [19:31:00] | Chacabaou: | ;) |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think you're right, but do what works for you |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | I have work to do :) |
| [19:31:00] | Chacabaou: | Looks cooler than cat *.sql | mysql... IMHO. ;) |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | harder to understand too |
| [19:32:00] | ** kormoc likes KISS. ** | |
| [19:32:00] | Chacabaou: | kormoc: That's the point. |
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| [19:36:00] | Chacabaou: | Does the "delete after nuv/sql-export"-feature surely delete the file only if the copying definitly succeeded for the specific file? |
| [19:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | so... An announcment is coming out to the mailing list sometime soon, but I've been asked to a pre-announcement announcement here regarding http://www.lxmsuite.com to ensure that the most commonly asked FAQs are on their FAQ page. |
| [19:37:00] | GeckoFiend: | so... if ya'll don't mind popping by http://www.lxmsuite.com I'd appreciate it |
| [19:37:00] | derekr: | nice :) |
| [19:39:00] | GeckoFiend: | oh and http://www.lxmsuite.com/theme_preview/playbackbox_preview.jpg |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: "mythplus" didn't fly? |
| [19:40:00] | Chacabaou: | Bit dark...isn't it...? ;) |
| [19:41:00] | stoffel: | GeckoFiend: are other appl are allowed to use LxM guide data? |
| [19:41:00] | GeckoFiend: | xris Isaac asked them to change it on Friday. |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | anyway, seen 'em before, you know I like them. |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | ahh, well, good enough. |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | I kind of liked mythplus. heh. |
| [19:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | stoffel *possibly* depends on what it is and what it's for. But I know they're formaly reaching out to the Freevo guys at some point |
| [19:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | xris yeah, I liked it myself but at least it makes it easier to do things like reach out to the Freevo folks. |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | true |
| [19:44:00] | CyberKnet: | so why lxM ? |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | hmm, I wonder what zap2it will think about signing a company up for their listings. heh. |
| [19:46:00] | Chacabaou: | Err, is it normal, that the sql-files from nuvexport contain very long lists of kinda numerical indices? What are they for? |
| [19:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chacabaou that's the seektable, cutlist, commflag map |
| [19:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | those idenitify the location of keyframes within the file so that seeking is fast and accurate |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | that's the markups |
| [19:47:00] | Chacabaou: | GeckoFiend: So mainly the seektable, since I don't have any cutlist/commflags for those recordings...thanks. |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | and yes, it's normal |
| [19:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | there has to be an easier way to do this |
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| [19:53:00] | Chacabaou: | To my question above...can I be sure, that recordings will only be removed on the backend if the copying was successful? |
| [19:54:00] | stoffel: | stupid people: 190.000 Euro for the popes car |
| [19:55:00] | Chacabaou: | stoffel: Finally? |
| [19:55:00] | stoffel: | yeah |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | even more stupid: the guy donates it for a good cause |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [19:59:00] | FITH: | that was the one they did even know if he had ever sat in it right? |
| [19:59:00] | FITH: | s/did/didn't/ |
| [19:59:00] | stoffel: | afaik yes |
| [19:59:00] | FITH: | hehe |
| [20:00:00] | kormoc: | http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2858 |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [20:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | is there a Jump Point for the myth main screen? |
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| [20:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hi Henry |
| [20:38:00] | henry`: | hey Greg |
| [20:38:00] | henry`: | fancy meeting you in here |
| [20:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hehe I've been here a long long time :) |
| [20:39:00] | henry`: | are you still in Belgium? |
| [20:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, back in Halifax |
| [20:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | waiting to hear if I'm heading back to Europ for the next couple months or not |
| [20:40:00] | henry`: | I discovered the miracle of DVB-T yesterday |
| [20:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:41:00] | henry`: | the analogue TV signal here is pants |
| [20:41:00] | henry`: | but digital works just fine |
| [20:41:00] | henry`: | go figure |
| [20:41:00] | ** GreyFoxx is moving data around his network at the moment. moving stuff off my backend ** | |
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| [20:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm tempted to head out and pick up another drive |
| [20:44:00] | ** Beirdo is listening to Cartmen singing "Come Sail Away" ** | |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:45:00] | henry`: | I have a conexant-based DVB-T card (Hauppauge rev05). I can get it to work with scan, tzap and dvbstream but I get "Error tuning to transport" when I try to scan channels in mythtv-setup. |
| [20:46:00] | henry`: | I put the right frequency to scan in (grepped out of channels.conf) |
| [20:46:00] | henry`: | how can I diagnose this problem? |
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| [20:53:00] | cortezdapimp: | Does anyone have a pvr-150 or pvr-500? i need HcwMakoA.ROM and i've misplaced my driver cd |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | cortezdapimp: atrpms has rpm's of it. |
| [20:56:00] | cortezdapimp: | cool thanks. |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | and I thought you could just download that from hauppauge, too. |
| [20:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | henry`: I've never personally run into that. But you might be able to find someone in #DVB who might have |
| [20:56:00] | cortezdapimp: | atrpms.com ? |
| [20:56:00] | CyberKnet: | what's a dap imp? I've heard of major imps, and minor imps... |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | cortezdapimp: net |
| [20:56:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: google.com?s=atrpms |
| [20:56:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [20:57:00] | xris: | cortezdapimp: probably easier to grab from hauppauge if you don't use an rpm distro. |
| [20:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh word |
| [20:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | i dont think they have the right version though. |
| [20:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | like theres a specific one you're supposed to use apparently, the one that came on the cd – which i'm missing. |
| [20:58:00] | xris: | cortezdapimp: dunno. works fine for me. |
| [20:58:00] | xris: | I just apt-get and it runs fine. |
| [20:59:00] | xris: | but I don't use the tuner on my 150, just svideo |
| [21:00:00] | cortezdapimp: | ya thats what i want |
| [21:00:00] | cortezdapimp: | maybe you can help me... i'm getting a blank screen :\ |
| [21:00:00] | cortezdapimp: | then it quits back to mythfrontend |
| [21:00:00] | xris: | cortezdapimp: which distro? |
| [21:01:00] | cortezdapimp: | knoppmyth |
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| [21:02:00] | xris: | hand-compiled drivers? |
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| [21:04:00] | cortezdapimp: | yes |
| [21:04:00] | cortezdapimp: | tried .3.3u now i'm trying .3.2r |
| [21:04:00] | cortezdapimp: | i had it working with .3.2i before but the sound was fuzzy, thats what started this whole reformat craze |
| [21:05:00] | cortezdapimp: | also s-video in didn't work in .3.2i (black and white) |
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| [21:07:00] | xris: | I think mine's using .3.2u properly |
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| [21:09:00] | mchou: | xris: what res you capture from svid on 150? |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | max |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | haven't done much with it, though. card's still in my workstation, not the mythbox |
| [21:11:00] | mchou: | xris: you ever try a lower res? I think there are "problems" |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | yeah, it crops instead of resizing. |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | well-known issue |
| [21:11:00] | mchou: | xris: well, I get ENC IRQ OVERFLOWS..... |
| [21:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh man i got that |
| [21:12:00] | AndyCap: | hmm, anyone here set mythfrontend to use ALSA:default and get an error opening mixer? |
| [21:12:00] | xris: | ah. must be something in the new code to try to get resize working. |
| [21:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | i changed the tuner type to the proper one and it fixed it |
| [21:12:00] | xris: | cortezdapimp: lol |
| [21:12:00] | xris: | cool |
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| [21:12:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: in my case full res makes it go away. |
| [21:13:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: which tuner is the "proper one?" |
| [21:13:00] | xris: | I record everything full-res, anyway. |
| [21:16:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: which tuner is the "proper one" for you? |
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| [21:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | grrrr |
| [21:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | and more grrrrr |
| [21:19:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: lol, still have audio issues? |
| [21:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | mchou: all that is fixed |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | can't watch live tv though |
| [21:20:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: so what you complaining about now? (bet the audio issue was /dev/dsp permission problem) |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | the buffer file gets written |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | the buffer looks fine |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | just nothing displays in MythTV |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | however |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | that is not what I am working on |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | I am currently working on a lircrc file for a SnapStream Firefly |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | and the myth keybindings and jump points are making me upset |
| [21:22:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: I think you're a prime candidate for MCE. |
| [21:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have MCE on my laptop |
| [21:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | I don't really like it |
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| [21:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | do you know how to make network shared videos available? |
| [21:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | mchou 50 |
| [21:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | you have to put a shortcut in certain folders |
| [21:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | klatuu – verata niktu? |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | and it takes 10 minutes to load one of those files from when you select it |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | no thanks to MCE |
| [21:23:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: what do you mean? via nfs? |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | it would be via SMB |
| [21:23:00] | mchou: | 10 minutes?? Stupid windows :) |
| [21:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | yes |
| [21:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | if I can get madwifi working on my laptop I will be mostly set |
| [21:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | and use my laptop as a frontend in my bedroom |
| [21:24:00] | mchou: | lol, forget about it. |
| [21:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | madwifi needs to start up on 802.11a |
| [21:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: hey I got my mythtv box fully working |
| [21:25:00] | mchou: | viewing experience on wifi is going to be less than stellar. |
| [21:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | I'd rather not use b or g |
| [21:25:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: good deal. |
| [21:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I am so excited hehe |
| [21:26:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: I told ya it's your screwup, not ivtv :) |
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| [21:26:00] | [Klatuu]: | I think my LiveTV problem is with xvmc |
| [21:27:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: so you have a rev C199 150? |
| [21:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | um i dunno heh |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: goota read mythtv docs and make sure you got your device permissions correct. |
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| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | ya rev c199 |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: can you get to the ivtv lig? It will tell ya in there. |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | log* |
| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | its in dmesg |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: OK :) |
| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26032, rev = C199, serial# = 7846706 |
| [21:29:00] | mchou: | yeah.... |
| [21:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | when i go to watch tv, i get a blank screen for about 10 seconds then it dumps me back to the frontend |
| [21:29:00] | [Klatuu]: | I also need to setup database replication so I can backup my mythbox to another server |
| [21:30:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: thankfully that doent happen to me :) |
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| [21:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
| [21:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | jerk |
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| [21:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | you have a rev c199 too? |
| [21:30:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: hat does the backend/fe say when that happens? |
| [21:30:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: yup. 2 of them in fact. |
| [21:30:00] | mchou: | what* |
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| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | um |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | where can i see what the backend/fe says |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | the front end doesnt say anything on the screen |
| [21:32:00] | xris: | anyone know what the availability is for ivtv drivers in ubuntu? |
| [21:32:00] | mchou: | lol. run it in the console. |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm mostly useless |
| [21:32:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | 2005-05–05 20:32:52.002 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | Running as a slave backend. |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | 2005-05–05 20:32:52.013 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | 2005-05–05 20:32:52.255 New DB connection, total: 3 |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | 2005-05–05 20:32:52.486 mythbackend version: 0.18.20050409–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | 2005-05–05 20:32:52.487 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | Failed to bind port: 6543 |
| [21:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | sorry i should use pastebin huh |
| [21:33:00] | mchou: | QServersocket means your mythsetup is screwed. Not a problem w/ivtv. |
| [21:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh ok |
| [21:34:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: make sure you stop all instances of myth. |
| [21:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm just going to restart and try it again |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | xris: you cant just use apt-get in ubuntu? :) |
| [21:36:00] | mchou: | this is the shits. xine is broken. |
| [21:36:00] | mchou: | might have to resort to using helixplayer, god forbid. |
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| [21:37:00] | xris: | mchou: I can, but I don't have it installed yet so I don't know what it has or not. |
| [21:38:00] | mchou: | xris: heh, ubuntu has livecd, no? |
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| [21:38:00] | beavis: | yes sure |
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| [21:40:00] | cortezdapimp: | mchou: ok i went into mythtv-setup and got rid of my old tuner settings etc... changed my ip to localhost... rebound the data direct link etc. still getting that socket msg |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | mchou: yes. but you can't exactly apt-get onto a cd. anyway, I found a package-search |
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| [21:41:00] | mchou: | xris: I was saying you could use the livecd to install..... |
| [21:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | mchou: any other recommendations? should i just (argh) reinstall everything again |
| [21:42:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: no need to reinstall anything..... |
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| [21:44:00] | mchou: | cortezdapimp: just need to make sure all your settings are correct is all. |
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| [21:48:00] | xris: | mchou: I could use the install cd to install, too. and I already have that one downloaded and burnt to disk. |
| [21:58:00] | laga: | is it possible to have playback filters on a per channel base? i won't need denoising with my new DVB setup, but it's still great for the pvr 250 |
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| [22:06:00] | xris: | laga: damn you people with dvb |
| [22:08:00] | mchou: | xris: hehe |
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| [22:08:00] | henry`: | speaking of DVB |
| [22:08:00] | henry`: | I have a conexant-based DVB-T card (Hauppauge rev05). I can get it to work with scan, tzap and dvbstream but I get "Error tuning to transport" when I try to scan channels in mythtv-setup. |
| [22:08:00] | mchou: | xris: why you complaining? you just got air2pc? :) |
| [22:08:00] | henry`: | I put the right frequency to scan in (grepped out of channels.conf) |
| [22:08:00] | henry`: | how can I diagnose this problem? |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | mchou: for OTA stuff, of which I record NOTHING (my wife records a couple of things) |
| [22:09:00] | ** xris wants digital access to scifi and foodtv ** | |
| [22:11:00] | mchou: | henry`: I dont have dvb, but you might want to check you units. iirc myth freq are factor of 1000 from channels.conf (why don't you autoscan?) |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | your* |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: If you dont want that card, I'd be happy to acquire it from you. I record MUCH from OTA |
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| [22:12:00] | mchou: | hehe.... |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | horsetrading already..... |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | then man hasn't had it more than 1 wk :) |
| [22:13:00] | kormoc: | I'd trade a pc card for a horse |
| [22:13:00] | kormoc: | then sell the horse |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | the* |
| [22:13:00] | kormoc: | and buy a new card! |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | kormoc: true, but it was a figure of speech. |
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| [22:16:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I'd move into the apartment while the blood was still on the walls =) |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | xris: actually, it's cooler than regular DVB. it's a hacked set top box running linux with an ethernet port... |
| [22:17:00] | henry`: | mchou: I did try autoscanning... mythtv's not able to get a "lock" |
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| [22:18:00] | mchou: | henry`: hmm....then that's a bit more problematic :) |
| [22:18:00] | henry`: | mchou: indeed |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | henry`: you using latest cvs? |
| [22:18:00] | henry`: | no.. 0.17 |
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| [22:19:00] | mchou: | henry`: tsk tsk. .17 had some issues with DVB (on air2pc at least) |
| [22:19:00] | henry`: | aah |
| [22:19:00] | henry`: | well, then I'll turf it |
| [22:19:00] | henry`: | the debian packages are way out of date |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | goddamn. compile from source man. :) |
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| [22:23:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: didn't say I wanted to get rid of it. just that I don't currently record OTA stuff. my wife does, though. plenty. |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | pffffft. compiling for source is for intelligent people. |
| [22:23:00] | henry`: | I guess this is why god made /usr/local |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: aah well, was worth a try =) |
| [22:23:00] | xris: | I'd rather compile from source INTO packages, then install packages. |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | which means if I install ubuntu, I need to learn how to compile debs. |
| [22:24:00] | henry`: | dpkg-buildpackage ;) |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | yes. but from MY sourcecode (as in cvs) |
| [22:25:00] | laga: | xris: there's a script called myth-cvs that gets current cvs and puts it in a nice debian package. i dont know if it works with 0.18 yet, though. |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | hmm, that'd be handy |
| [22:25:00] | henry`: | laga: where does this script live? |
| [22:26:00] | laga: | wait a sec.. |
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| [22:26:00] | laga: | http://www.hamstaman.lxserv.de/mythtv/myth-cvs |
| [22:27:00] | laga: | whimboo is the guy who wrote it, you probably want to talk to him. |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | looks pre-.18 since it seems to still be checking for individual plugin dirs |
| [22:27:00] | laga: | http://de-mythwiki.ath.cx/mediawiki-1.3.11/in . . . nere_Linuxer <- you can probably use this if it doesnt work right, it's in german, unfortunately. |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | though it does say .18 |
| [22:29:00] | laga: | it works for mythtv 0.18, and i'Ve heard that it works for the plugins, except for mythweb. |
| [22:29:00] | xris: | Ich muss mehr Deutsch lernen |
| [22:29:00] | laga: | xris: ;) |
| [22:29:00] | laga: | xris: i was going to migrate some content back to mythtv.info, but i lack the time... |
| [22:29:00] | xris: | mythweb shouldn't be packaged, anyway. |
| [22:29:00] | laga: | umm, yep. |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | though I'm learning some cool stuff to do with mod_redirect that'll make it more feasible to do more installs that way. |
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| [22:30:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | i protected my mythweb with a password today. am i cool or what? ;) |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | heh |
| [22:31:00] | mchou: | lol, so it was you we found in google a few days ago :) |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | everyone will eventually need to do that |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | mchou: ;) |
| [22:32:00] | laga: | mchou: i'm glad that someone found "me". the search engine ranking is quite low because the url sucks. it'S just a redirect from mythwiki.de to de-mythwiki.ath.cx, i need to change the A record, i guess. |
| [22:33:00] | laga: | xris: yep. or have some very odd recordings... |
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| [22:34:00] | xris: | laga: no.. one of the next major changes I make to mythweb will require auth. |
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| [22:35:00] | xris: | although it occurred to me that there are people running mythweb in windows... dunno if IIS allows for htdigest/htpasswd |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | xris: oh, cool. i'm glad that i have it now ;) |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | well, it'll probably change. I'll need ways to manage users, change passwords, etc., so will need to store the files in a common location. |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | I still need to think a lot about it, so I haven't done anything with it yet. |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | user management? that's great! i've been waiting for this ;) |
| [22:39:00] | ** TeLLuS having "DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set" problem when I tune in on frontend. When backend is started it say "DVB#1 Successfully tuned to channel 1040" So I guess it is trying to use the wrong card.. somehow. ** | |
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| [22:41:00] | xris: | laga: well, for starters there will just be per-user prefs.. too many people not setting things up properly for cookies to work. |
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| [22:43:00] | laga: | well, if they dont want cookies, they dont want user management ;) |
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| [22:51:00] | xris: | it's not a matter of wanting. it's "not knowing how" |
| [22:51:00] | xris: | I get SO many bug reports about features not working, and it's just because the site isn't configured properly for cookies to work. |
| [22:52:00] | laga: | oh, that's sad. sounds like we'd need some kind of faq |
| [22:53:00] | Bogus8: | off topic... I need some help getting a Compact Flash card to mount (FC3) |
| [22:54:00] | xris: | it's covered in the readme and in the conf file where you set cookie_domain |
| [22:54:00] | xris: | the problem is that people don't know how cookies work. |
| [22:54:00] | xris: | or access the machine with one name from outside their network, and a different one from inside. |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | xris: well. hehe. i didn't know this was a problem, i was going to do the same. |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | name = hostname, in this context? |
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| [22:58:00] | xris: | cookies are tied to the site the browser thinks it's visiting. |
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| [22:58:00] | xris: | so if it thinks it's at example.com, it gives access to all cookies allowed to .com |
| [22:58:00] | xris: | if it thinks www.example.com, it gives access to .example.com |
| [22:59:00] | xris: | so you need not only FQD, but a subdomain. |
| [22:59:00] | laga: | oh. |
| [22:59:00] | xris: | but since it's what the browser THINKS, you can easily use a hosts file on your internal network to redirect calls to the machine you want. |
| [22:59:00] | xris: | personally, I just set up two different dns views. |
| [22:59:00] | xris: | but I run my own dns |
| [23:00:00] | CygnusX1: | Hello all. I hvae a mythtv 0.18 installation that works great except that I am having trouble with the video module. Recorded programs play back fine. However, if I move a myth recording to my videos folder (or any other recording) when I play it back, I have no controls (using keyboard). I cannot stop, pause, adjust volume, et cetera. |
| [23:00:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | from video it plays it with mplayer |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | or with an internal player |
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| [23:01:00] | xris: | depending on config, I believe |
| [23:01:00] | laga: | xris: i probably have to read more about that. i'll see if/when i run into issues when i access my mythweb from ouside for the first time |
| [23:01:00] | CygnusX1: | I am pretty sure it is using mplayer. |
| [23:01:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | yea tell it to play .nuv files with the internal player |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | sparky_not_so_el: no, I mean that mythvideo now has its own player |
| [23:01:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | it does? |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | I thought that came with .17 |
| [23:02:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | oh |
| [23:02:00] | sparky_not_so_el: | i have .17 and use mplayer for most videos |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | i never heard that before |
| [23:02:00] | xris: | maybe I'm wrong. could have sworn I read it on a commit message ever so long ago. |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | I think if you set the player to "internal" it will use mythtv |
| [23:03:00] | laga: | i only know that you can use the internal player |
| [23:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | Set it to "Internal" |
| [23:03:00] | CygnusX1: | Does that only work for nuv files though? And where do I begin to look for why mplayer is not getting keyboard input? |
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| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | CygnusX1: that's because it doesn't have focus |
| [23:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | It works for any file, though there are issues with seeking. Using "mythcommflag --video <filename>" helps with those |
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| [23:05:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: i saw your posting on the ML. lxmsuite.com looks pretty cool. |
| [23:05:00] | retr0: | Hi, was wondering if someone can help me. I've been running myth with no problems for several months now, but tonight for some unknown reason (rebooting doesn't help, nothing has been changed on the machine) playback has problems – it gets the timecodes mixed up and displays ac-tex damaged errors to the console |
| [23:05:00] | retr0: | I can play the same video files back with mplayer with no problems |
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| [23:06:00] | CygnusX1: | Beirdo, I am running mythfrontend with startx -e mythfrontend (I have seen some issue with this with the KDE kicker stealing focus before.) |
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| [23:07:00] | laga: | night |
| [23:07:00] | retr0: | it has this problem with stuff i've recorded previously and watched back with no problems. It's a dvb setup (nova-t), so uncompressed mpeg2 |
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| [23:13:00] | maddhaggis: | Hello all. |
| [23:13:00] | kormoc: | mornin |
| [23:14:00] | ** xris whacks kormoc — you ate lunch already, it's not morning. ** | |
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| [23:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | there needs to be a Myth Home jump point |
| [23:18:00] | xris: | ? |
| [23:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | which takes you to the top level of the myth menu |
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| [23:21:00] | CygnusX1: | Ok, if I run fluxbox and then launch mythfrontend from it, mplayer works. |
| [23:21:00] | awb4422: | anyone transcoding HDTV recordings automatically in here? |
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| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | Aflac! |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | CygnusX1: you do need a window manager |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so I'm going to blame you if I can't get my mythbox back up and running tonight after reinstalling |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | gonna blame me for pebcak? :) |
| [23:29:00] | xris: | yup |
| [23:30:00] | TeLLuS: | Hmm, I could fool myth to have two DVB#1 card then it works.. :/ Still noone know wow to set default DVB#..? |
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| [23:30:00] | kormoc: | pebcak doesn't say which keyboard and chair it means. |
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| [23:31:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: did you get the msg's I just sent to you before your nick collision? |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | or (in my case) keyboard and couch |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | heh |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | I think I'll stick with fedora. no mplayer package in ubuntu, and no time to learn where to find one. |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | sure there is |
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| [23:34:00] | xris: | not listed on their package site. |
| [23:34:00] | intrade: | i use kaffeine |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | wait, there it is. |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | mplayer-amd64 shows up for me |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:35:00] | intrade: | amarock should also go on 64 |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | ok, maybe I will, then |
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| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | apt-cache search mplayer |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | I'm just curious about versions. like what happens if I want newer versions of things than hoary has. |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | it's in multiverse, BTW |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | the first thing you need to do is edit the sources.list and add universe and multiverse |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | mplayer-amd64: |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | Installed: (none) |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | Candidate: 1:1.0-pre6–0.3ubuntu6 |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have it installed there right now :) |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | ah, I see why I couldn't see it. it's not "mplayer" it's "mplayer-arch" for the package name |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | odd, but there it is |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | I knew I had seem it :) |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | yeah. but other stuff isn't new enough. and apparently breezy is being built with gcc 4. ick |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | what "other stuff" |
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| [23:38:00] | xris: | which means I can't just apt-get breezy packages as needed |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | rsnapshot, for one. |
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| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | 1.6–6 |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | 1.1.6, actually. should be 1.2.1 |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | (which breezy has) |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, missed a 1. |
| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | and yeah, you should be able to cleanly upgrade to breezy |
| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | in theory |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | but I don't want to run breezy, just some newer packages |
| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | you ARE a picky one today :) |
| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | run gentoo |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | I'm always picky |
| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | lol |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | I considered it. heh. |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | but only because kormoc says his nuvexport is like 30% faster than mine on similar hardware. |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | that's a crock of shit :) |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | heh |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | no offense, kormoc |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | he's not here |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | similar really means squat |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | went to get food or something |
| [23:41:00] | Beirdo: | food? |
| [23:41:00] | Beirdo: | at this time? |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | we have much free food here. |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | free espresso, too |
| [23:41:00] | Beirdo: | good thing I don't work there |
| [23:41:00] | Beirdo: | I'm trying to lose weight, not gain |
| [23:42:00] | Beirdo: | although espresso would kick some serious ass |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | good stuff, too. owners are obsessed with coffee. |
| [23:43:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | speaking of which, I should go get a shot. |
| [23:43:00] | Beirdo: | move to Canada already, dammit |
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| [23:45:00] | xris: | heh |
| [23:45:00] | CygnusX1: | Thank you guys for the help on that. My fonts are now also large enough to be read with xfce running! |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it's not a crock of shit, xris saw my box go |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | no offence :) |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | I mean you can't compare it unless it's on the *exact* same box |
| [23:46:00] | kormoc: | 2.4 ghz p4's, 1 gig of ddr 400 ram, tis the same. |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | and you likely compiled with some optimizations on that will make a difference |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | ooh, yeah, my box is optimizated out the wazoo compaired to a fc box. |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | there will be up to 5% variation in results for "identical" hardware |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but I'm pulling in nearly double fps |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | if you truly want to benchmark, set up on the exact same machine, and benchmark with several default builds :) |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | but yeah |
| [23:48:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that'd be the best |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | if you compiled for p4 instead of i386, it would make a BIG difference |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | or whatever FC is compiling at |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | video stuff's one of the few places it will make such a huge difference though |
| [23:48:00] | kormoc: | -O3 -march=pentium4 -pipe -mmmx -msse -msse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-3dnow -mfpmath=sse,387 -fomit-frame-pointer -maccumulate-outgoing-args |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | the omit-frame-pointer is bad for debugging, mmkay? |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | yeah, indeed it is |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't suggest that to the average joe |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | which is why I have a debuging profile if I want to debug :) |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | not sure on the cons of accumulate-outgoing-args |
| [23:50:00] | kormoc: | as of right now, it just works or not, there's really no major cons yet. |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | well the "not" would be a damn big con |
| [23:50:00] | kormoc: | then it just uses the old style. |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | video processing is one of the things I think is worth optimizing the shite out of |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | in gcc4, my understanding is it won't fall back and then you can have major issues. |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | I don't think redhat enables sse* in their default package-building settings, which might explain the speed differences. |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | transcode and/or ffmpeg could very much take that into consideration. |
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| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | for sure |
| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | that will make a huge difference |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | I don't think myth's auto-detect stuff even does that. |
| [23:54:00] | ** kormoc should speed test -msse -msse2 and -msse -mnosse2 and -mnosse -mnosse2... ** | |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, kormoc... if you have time, generating a nice table of results with the various optimizations... |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | and one with what FC is likely using (read the RPM spec if ya want) :) |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | heh, I'll see what I can do :) |
| [23:56:00] | Beirdo: | It would be cool to see |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | I'm actually wondering how much of that improvement is from the entire system having those little extras too. |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | not likely much |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | the majority will be transcode/ffmpeg being slow |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | yea, but I wonder if glibc uses sse/sse2 memory copys? |
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