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| [00:00:00] | claymore: | I've got it working well enough for now and I'll check into the overscanning. |
| [00:00:00] | claymore: | Thanks for the help. you folks rock |
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| [00:58:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx: in order to build ati_remote for my system, i would do make modules && make modules install, right? |
| [00:59:00] | jams: | Beirdo, unless nuvexport changed the cli , latest nuvexport should work fine |
| [00:59:00] | jams: | and it only uses it if transcoding needs to be done |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | I'm pretty sure it has changed some |
| [01:01:00] | jams: | heh that could be abarbaccia problem then |
| [01:01:00] | jasoncohen: | apparently that's not it. it's still using ati_remote 2.2.1 after i reloaded the module. |
| [01:02:00] | pookSter: | Has anyone seen the MythTV Setup Script for F3 around? I can only find for F1 and F2 Fedora |
| [01:02:00] | jasoncohen: | how do i rebuild a module? |
| [01:02:00] | jams: | Beirdo within the last 2 months has it changed ? |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not sure how much we've changed it, but likely, yes |
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| [01:03:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | damn |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | I need food |
| [01:03:00] | jams: | alright guess I will d/l and update my stuff if needed |
| [01:04:00] | jams: | thanks for the info |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | be a good plan :) |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | no problem |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | what should I get to eat.... |
| [01:06:00] | jams: | taco bell or pizza |
| [01:09:00] | Cromz: | pizza |
| [01:09:00] | Cromz: | that's not a choise between those two |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | sure it is... |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | but taco bell doesn't deliver :) |
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| [01:20:00] | Cromz: | nope.. now if there is a big dog or a little dog.. there is a choice there.. which one to kick.. but between taco bell and pizza? no way man. you need to get in touch with your inner geek ;) lol |
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| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | Mmmmm. yummytacos |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | ordered some pasta and a calzone. |
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| [01:28:00] | jmusits: | anyone have their x screen broken into 4 quadrants by hauppauge pvr-350's tv-out? |
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| [01:34:00] | egsavage: | any fc3 mythtv recent installers here? I'm having a problem using the 'apt-get mythtv-suite' method... Error is something like: " Depends mythweb (>= .18), but it is not going to be installed" ... Ring any bells or maybe an update is in process? |
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| [01:52:00] | jmusits: | anyone here using a hauppauge pvr-350's tv-out successfully for xorg output? |
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| [01:54:00] | darkfrog: | I'm using dvdauthor to create dvd content and it's working great, but when I go to watch a DVD that has more than one video on it I can't just skip to it, is there a simple way to tell it to allow me to just skip to it with my remote? |
| [01:54:00] | pookSter: | [20:34] egsavage: any fc3 mythtv recent installers here? I'm having a problem using the 'apt-get mythtv-suite' |
| [01:54:00] | pookSter: | you and me both egsavage |
| [01:55:00] | pookSter: | but..I keep on reading, something will prolly finally jump out and clue me in |
| [01:55:00] | spiderworm: | hello all, i've got mythtv installed on another machine in my house, is it now possible to watch saved recordings or live tv over the network? does mythtv natively support this? |
| [01:55:00] | jams: | darkfrog, record it as a seperate chapter |
| [01:55:00] | jams: | chapter 1 would be title 1 chapter 2 would be title 2 |
| [01:55:00] | darkfrog: | jams, hey buddy, you always seem to be here when I need you...and always seem to have all the answers. :o |
| [01:56:00] | jams: | just make sure you have your chapter skip button setup |
| [01:56:00] | pookSter: | spiderworm...is that not what the backend and frontend is all about? |
| [01:57:00] | spiderworm: | pookSter: eh, hell if i know! so i could just install the mythtv frontend on my linux computer, connect to the backend on the server, and watch tv on the laptop??? |
| [01:57:00] | jams: | you could also record them as seperate titleset's but that button isn't mapped on most remotes |
| [01:57:00] | darkfrog: | jams, currently I'm not using an XML definition for dvdauthor, I'm passing everything command-line, do I need XML to do this? |
| [01:57:00] | jams: | don't know I have only used the xml |
| [01:57:00] | darkfrog: | jams, yeah, I think it's defaulting to titlesets |
| [01:58:00] | egsavage: | pookster: still getting it even after a apt-get update |
| [01:58:00] | pookSter: | spiderworm, I don't have a successful myth install yet, but from what I have read, you can have the backend do all the recording/storing and access it from multiple frontends. I'm sure someone who has it installed can confirm this |
| [01:59:00] | egsavage: | i had a whole bunch of pkgs b4 the last apt-get update, now its just down to mythweb |
| [01:59:00] | spiderworm: | wicked sick! |
| [01:59:00] | darkfrog: | jams, don't suppose you have a simple XML example of two videos without a menu? |
| [01:59:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, you could be brave and do: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [01:59:00] | pookSter: | egsavage...I've done the apt update and I still don't understand where I'm going wrong |
| [02:00:00] | pookSter: | and I've done the apt-get dist-upgrade successfully |
| [02:00:00] | pookSter: | I hope to get the mythsetup screen soon so I can work on some new problems :) |
| [02:00:00] | egsavage: | dist-upgrade worked for me earlier (no issues), but the myth-suite still comes down to mythweb errors for installing |
| [02:01:00] | pookSter: | oh, then you are farther than me. |
| [02:01:00] | egsavage: | what is your error? |
| [02:01:00] | egsavage: | a bunch of pkgs? |
| [02:01:00] | pookSter: | yes |
| [02:02:00] | jams: | darkfrog, there you go |
| [02:02:00] | pookSter: | so I've set it aside for a while and am doing some reading |
| [02:02:00] | darkfrog: | jams, thanks buddy |
| [02:03:00] | egsavage: | pookster: i may have to do the same :-( |
| [02:03:00] | pookSter: | egsavage..I'm kind of at a bit of a disadvantage not knowing linux very well |
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| [02:03:00] | pookSter: | So I think that is the first place to start for me |
| [02:03:00] | egsavage: | in this case, i'm not sure what the 'fix' usually is... darkfrog? |
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| [02:04:00] | pookSter: | Otherwise, I'll just be having people spoonfeed me commands lol |
| [02:04:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, you might have to remove the package that has errors for it to work properly |
| [02:04:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, I've had to do that before because it was causing conflicts |
| [02:04:00] | egsavage: | i don't have any of those pkgs installed yet – new mythtv install |
| [02:05:00] | egsavage: | don't believe it ever installed any of the myth* pkgs |
| [02:05:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, you're doing Jarod's tutorial? |
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| [02:05:00] | egsavage: | yes, jarod's |
| [02:06:00] | darkfrog: | Okay, and it's giving you errors when you do: apt-get install myth-suite ? |
| [02:06:00] | egsavage: | yes |
| [02:06:00] | pookSter: | I read there was a nice install script somewhere, but can only find it for F2 fedora |
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| [02:06:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, what exactly is the error? |
| [02:07:00] | egsavage: | can't cut/paste – vnc'ed to another machine |
| [02:07:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, generally what is it saying? |
| [02:07:00] | egsavage: | mythtv-suite: Depends: mythweb (>= 0.18) but it is not going to be installed |
| [02:08:00] | egsavage: | manual cut/paste ;-) |
| [02:08:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, just for kicks try this: apt-get remove mythweb |
| [02:08:00] | egsavage: | k |
| [02:08:00] | egsavage: | ... 0 removed ... |
| [02:09:00] | egsavage: | not installed |
| [02:09:00] | egsavage: | E: Broken packages (on the mythtv-suite install) |
| [02:09:00] | egsavage: | <sigh> |
| [02:10:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, try this: wget http://pyramex.com/download/sources.list |
| [02:10:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, then mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old |
| [02:11:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, then mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [02:11:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, then apt-get update |
| [02:11:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, finally, apt-get install myth-suite |
| [02:11:00] | egsavage: | not sure if that will help me – kind of paranoid – last time i introduced some other apt-get sites, if hosed my fc3 install |
| [02:11:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [02:12:00] | egsavage: | i did changes the sources.list to add the new ayo.us5.freshrpms ... in the machine name though |
| [02:12:00] | darkfrog: | it's what I use on my FC3 box |
| [02:12:00] | darkfrog: | I believe what I'm using is pretty close to the standard |
| [02:12:00] | egsavage: | i don't think the non-us5 ayo works anymore (not 4 me at least) |
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| [02:14:00] | pookSter: | darkfrog...while I have u here, does apt-get install myth-suite know I have an Athlon 64...what I mean is, do I have to do anything different if I have the X86 distro? |
| [02:14:00] | darkfrog: | egsavage, at this point the best thing I can suggest is either to try that sources.list or start over from the beginning and reformat the box. |
| [02:15:00] | darkfrog: | pookSter, I think apt-get knows...not sure though, never set up anything but 386/686 |
| [02:15:00] | pookSter: | k..tnx |
| [02:15:00] | egsavage: | darkfrog, what mythweb version r u at? |
| [02:15:00] | darkfrog: | I'm still a linux noob myself, just learning a lot lately. :o |
| [02:16:00] | darkfrog: | 0.18 |
| [02:16:00] | egsavage: | curious if u can install the latest now |
| [02:16:00] | pookSter: | heh, tnx for sharing with another noob |
| [02:16:00] | egsavage: | i.e., if the apt-get pkgs are hosed or something |
| [02:17:00] | pookSter: | I did wonder that egsavage....as I followed Jarrad's to a T.... |
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| [02:17:00] | egsavage: | same here pookster |
| [02:17:00] | pookSter: | *jarod's |
| [02:18:00] | IA-Outdoors: | anybody here know how to troubleshoot sound under knoppmyth? I have a motherboard with an ac97 chip in it and can't seem to get it working |
| [02:18:00] | darkfrog: | yes, you can install the latest now |
| [02:18:00] | pookSter: | I think I'm going to reformat again anyways |
| [02:18:00] | egsavage: | ia: sound on my fc3 didn't work after a reboot until i ran the 'sound detection' app then things worked again – strange – probably some other issue on my box i guess |
| [02:18:00] | darkfrog: | IA-Outdoors, I would recommend looking at Jarod's tutorial as he talks about the ac97 chipset...I would assume configurations with Knoppix and FC would be similar in that regard. |
| [02:19:00] | darkfrog: | IA-Outdoors, it might at least give you an idea. |
| [02:19:00] | IA-Outdoors: | url? |
| [02:19:00] | IA-Outdoors: | ...and thanks |
| [02:20:00] | darkfrog: | IA-Outdoors, http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
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| [02:22:00] | Vantage: | quick question about nuvexport. I have commercials flagged and set to auto-skip (not actually cut, but skipped). When I use nuvexport and enable myth cutlist will the commercials be removed? |
| [02:24:00] | egsavage: | pookster: really? |
| [02:24:00] | egsavage: | i just did a reinstall – i don't think it will help me much |
| [02:25:00] | egsavage: | haven't strayed from jarod's directions by much if any |
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| [02:27:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, howdy |
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| [02:28:00] | AngryElf: | so the past 4 recordings myth has done have no sound |
| [02:28:00] | AngryElf: | including 24 apparently, this makes me extremely sad |
| [02:28:00] | Vantage: | alternately, is there a way to program a keypress to lirc? (looking for 'Z' to load cutlist, no keyboard attached to box) |
| [02:29:00] | AngryElf: | i set hdparm -S 180 |
| [02:29:00] | Vantage: | or is there a way to load the cutlist from the remote? |
| [02:29:00] | ** xris is intrigued by web software you don't actually have to install into a web tree. just use mod_redirect ** | |
| [02:30:00] | AngryElf: | but that's all I've done, what on earth is going on? |
| [02:31:00] | pookSter: | egsavage...yeh, I think so. I don't know what I've done to this one so I want to start off fresh lol |
| [02:31:00] | egsavage: | :-/ |
| [02:33:00] | AngryElf: | anyone??? hdparm breaking sound?? :( |
| [02:33:00] | ** Beirdo breaks wind ** | |
| [02:33:00] | ** xris thwacks Beirdo with the Trout of Politeness. ** | |
| [02:34:00] | Beirdo: | sorry. |
| [02:34:00] | egsavage: | angryelf: just getting mythtv installed would be awesome 4 me! ;-) |
| [02:34:00] | egsavage: | apt-get install mythtv-suite is croaking right now 4 me |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | heh. so I can make an entire website with a single file and mod_redirect. |
| [02:36:00] | ** xris likes apache ** | |
| [02:37:00] | egsavage: | interesting |
| [02:37:00] | egsavage: | pookster, darkfrog: maybe have found the culprit |
| [02:37:00] | egsavage: | tried installing mythweb and it complains about php-mysql |
| [02:37:00] | egsavage: | tried to install it and it complains about php |
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| [02:38:00] | egsavage: | says: "php-mysql: Depends: php (= 4.3.11–2.4) but 4.3.11–2.5 is to be installed |
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| [02:38:00] | egsavage: | php-mysql seems to be revlocked with -2.4 of php (but its not there??) |
| [02:40:00] | egsavage: | maybe adding some new sources (with the older php) would fix this? like darkfrog was leading me to do with the sources.list update ... ? |
| [02:41:00] | egsavage: | wonder if -2.4 was pulled because of a security issue or something .... hmm. |
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| [02:50:00] | shibz: | mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [02:50:00] | shibz: | I get that error whenever I try to open any of the myth tv things |
| [02:50:00] | Beirdo: | then fix it |
| [02:50:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:50:00] | shibz: | heh i wish I knew how |
| [02:51:00] | Beirdo: | add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [02:51:00] | Beirdo: | then ldconfig |
| [02:51:00] | Beirdo: | and make sure you do make install |
| [02:52:00] | shibz: | yay, thanks |
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| [02:54:00] | shibz: | where it says "IP address for localhost" should I set it as my internal LAN IP? |
| [02:54:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [02:54:00] | shibz: | I am going to use a local frontend, and also set up my xbox as a frontend |
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| [02:55:00] | Beirdo: | then you have to use real IPs for everything, no 127.0.0.1 |
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| [02:55:00] | shibz: | k, thx |
| [02:56:00] | shibz: | so I should set my "Master Server IP address" as 192.168.0.2 also? |
| [02:57:00] | shibz: | I will be using this machine as a frontend too, so shouldn't it be 127.0.0.1? |
| [02:57:00] | egsavage: | I used yum to update my php-mysql pkg then went back to apt-get install mythtv-suite ... now it seems to get past that last Depends error on mythweb... |
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| [03:13:00] | shibz: | what is the best commercial skip method to use? |
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| [03:15:00] | darkfrog: | jams, hey buddy, you around? |
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| [03:30:00] | spiderworm: | hello all, i installed mythfrontend via synaptic but mythtv-setup didnt come with it, i dont want to install mythbackend because I want it to connect to a server on another machine, where do i configure which backend it connects to? |
| [03:30:00] | cinix: | When I change the time offset in mythconfig what do I need to do to update it? somehow force mythfilldatabase to overwrite todays data? |
| [03:31:00] | cinix: | oh yea mythtv-config is what I probably used ;) |
| [03:34:00] | cinix: | spiderworm, I would download the source and then build what you want that way |
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| [03:57:00] | pookSter: | night all |
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| [04:46:00] | atomjack: | i've got a small problem – the program guide data seems to be 1 hour off – it's showing programs as started at 9pm when they really start at 10pm..everything is shifted an hour earlier...i just upgraded to .18 but i'm still getting this.. |
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| [04:56:00] | atomjack: | guess not |
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| [04:57:00] | rpete: | did you flush your scheduling data? |
| [04:57:00] | rpete: | alternatively, mythfilldatabse --refresh-second and see if the next two days are correct |
| [04:57:00] | rpete: | how, he's gone, duh |
| [04:58:00] | rpete: | waited around ten minutes at least |
| [04:59:00] | Cromz: | heh someone needs to get a answer bot to respond to phrases like that.. |
| [04:59:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [04:59:00] | Cromz: | then we can have fun watching people try to talk to a bot. |
| [05:00:00] | CygnusX1: | ROFL |
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| [05:01:00] | Cromz: | in one of my old channels we had a bot like that. was funny as hell. |
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| [05:22:00] | mechtn___: | guess what |
| [05:22:00] | mechtn___: | I got my PVR-150 working |
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| [05:22:00] | mechtn___: | going to write a howto in a few minutes HEHE :P |
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| [05:27:00] | Cromz: | mechtn___: make sure to send a copy or the link to jemarcks ;) specially if your using svideo lol |
| [05:28:00] | mechtn___: | ya i got an ATI card and using s-video |
| [05:28:00] | mechtn___: | like a champ |
| [05:29:00] | Cromz: | svideo in ;) |
| [05:29:00] | mechtn___: | oh i'm not using svideo in |
| [05:29:00] | Cromz: | either way might help him unless he's got it to work. |
| [05:29:00] | mechtn___: | ati s-video out to my tv... tuner0 for input to pvr150 |
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| [05:51:00] | jasoncohen: | what mysql packages do i need for a frontend only install? the howto says "you will need to install the database access libraries." What does this entail? |
| [05:54:00] | Agrajag-: | mysql libs |
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| [05:59:00] | SlicerDicer: | I am confused I have my ivtv installed and modprobed but I am trying to figure out how to change the channel cause all I get when I 'cat /dev/v4l/video0 > test.mpg' is static no picture |
| [05:59:00] | mechsleep: | pvr-150 working in mythth w00t |
| [06:00:00] | mechsleep: | now i just got to get my color problem fixed |
| [06:00:00] | mechsleep: | not sure why but my colors are way off |
| [06:00:00] | SlicerDicer: | I just got a pvr-350 :) I am totally lost though "snicker" |
| [06:00:00] | mechsleep: | night night\ |
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| [06:12:00] | simcop2387: | well lets try upgrading to .18 and play in the morning to see if i can get it working again, oh shit i missed star trek on friday! |
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| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer: | Does anybody know how to change the channel with ivtv? I am trying to figure out how to do it |
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| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer: | Ok I got my backend running but for some reason my frontend that is on a differnet computer is trying to connect to localhost for backend how do I change that? |
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| [06:56:00] | wilco_: | mythtv-setup.. i think... or is that only for backends? |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer: | I think thats only for backends |
| [06:56:00] | wilco_: | give it a try anyway |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer: | I did |
| [06:57:00] | wilco_: | ok.. found where it is |
| [06:57:00] | wilco_: | start the frontend and go to Setup->General |
| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer: | ok |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer: | thats only for the database right? |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer: | cause I have that set |
| [06:58:00] | wilco_: | yeah |
| [06:58:00] | wilco_: | doh! |
| [06:58:00] | wilco_: | sorry.. misread what you said |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer: | :/ |
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| [07:01:00] | wilco_: | ok, checked the documentation |
| [07:02:00] | wilco_: | it says that if no local backend is found on first startup a Database Configuration screen will show.. |
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| [07:02:00] | wilco_: | sounds like all you have to do is configure the database in Setup->General |
| [07:03:00] | wilco_: | check the log on the master backend and see if you get any connections |
| [07:03:00] | SlicerDicer: | ok |
| [07:10:00] | j-rod: | xris, you 'round? |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | I just happened to sit down in front of my machine again. |
| [07:11:00] | xris: | you really need to pick a nick and stick with it. heh. |
| [07:11:00] | j-rod: | now this one, I might just stick with. :) |
| [07:11:00] | j-rod: | I think someone else already had j3, sans-underscore |
| [07:11:00] | xris: | ah |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | works well enough. |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | anyway, what's up? |
| [07:12:00] | j-rod: | good stuff |
| [07:12:00] | j-rod: | someone is inquiring about the emailing capabilities of trac |
| [07:12:00] | j-rod: | as in, sending emails when tickets are updated |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | needs the devel version |
| [07:13:00] | j-rod: | and emailing commit messages |
| [07:13:00] | j-rod: | that's what I thought |
| [07:13:00] | j-rod: | the person asking is Chutt. :) |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | commits should just be through the svn hook, that's a piece of cake to set up. |
| [07:13:00] | SlicerDicer: | does anybody here use a pvr-350? |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | ooohhhhh.. yay! |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | j-rod: on #mythtv? |
| [07:14:00] | j-rod: | mmm-hmm |
| [07:14:00] | jasoncohen: | i just compiled mythtv 0.18 on my laptop on MDK 2005 LE and i'm getting this error: |
| [07:14:00] | jasoncohen: | mythfrontend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [07:15:00] | jasoncohen: | must be a problem with my $PATH as it's there |
| [07:15:00] | jasoncohen: | in /usr/local/lib |
| [07:15:00] | j-rod: | not $PATH, ldconfig |
| [07:16:00] | j-rod: | check for /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [07:16:00] | j-rod: | if it isn't there, add it, then run ldconfig |
| [07:18:00] | jasoncohen: | i must be blind. i missed this step – "echo /usr/local/lib >> /etc/ld.so.conf" |
| [07:18:00] | jasoncohen: | thanks j-rod |
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| [07:19:00] | j-rod: | np |
| [07:19:00] | SlicerDicer: | how do I know what the imput type is on my pvr-350 coax cable imput |
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| [07:23:00] | mchou: | hey j-rod |
| [07:24:00] | Skif: | okay, so in the right channel (sorry for anybody in #mythtv): why is my PVR-500 showing up as two PVR-150s instead of two PVR-250s? |
| [07:24:00] | mchou: | j-rod: so you got the D-492 500 working? :) |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | Skif: because it's really 2x150 sandwiched together. |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | and not 2x250 :) |
| [07:26:00] | Skif: | mchou: eh? I thought they were 2x250 by definition? |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | Skif: where did you get that idea? |
| [07:26:00] | Skif: | mchou: bugger me if I can remember now. |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | Skif: I think you have an overactive imagination. |
| [07:27:00] | Skif: | I'm sure that at some point in this mess of trying to get mythtv runnng it IDed as two 250s |
| [07:27:00] | Skif: | I don't deny that possibility either, mchou. :-\ |
| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer: | does anybody know why I am getting the msg 'mythtv: could not connect to socket' 'mythtv: no such file or directory' |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | Skif: that's because mythtv doesnt differentiate betw. 105/250. |
| [07:28:00] | j-rod: | mchou: still back-logged, but getting to it momentarily |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | Skif: so myth just calls it 250. |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | j-rod: you work on ivtv code at all?? I think I found some "features" :) |
| [07:30:00] | Skif: | mchou: well, poopy drawers. I thought I was getting it a bit cheap for 2x250, but wrote it off to a lag in pricing updates. |
| [07:30:00] | Skif: | It's still hardware MPEG encoding, right? |
| [07:30:00] | j-rod: | mchou: yup, a little bit, I did some of the tveeprom and tuner code for the 150 and 500 |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | Skif: yup. |
| [07:30:00] | Skif: | well, not so bad, then |
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| [07:32:00] | mchou: | j-rod: when you get a chance specify ivtv cardtype in modprobe.conf. It's off by one (as reported by ivtv) |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | like if you specify cardtype=x (say 350) it will "report" 250 instead. |
| [07:34:00] | j-rod: | hm, you know, I thought I remembered seeing that index off by one... |
| [07:35:00] | j-rod: | I'll try to take a look at that |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | j-rod: I also think there may be some funkiness in ivtv tuner initialization........ |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | which is why ppl are reporting 350 and m179 only getting static (recently). |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | or maybe saa7115 initialization, cant remember...... |
| [07:38:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [07:39:00] | j-rod: | my 350 is working fine, but I haven't played with my m179s lately |
| [07:39:00] | mchou: | Cause I've also be getting messages about input set to composite (when it's clearly tuner active). |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | in dmesg. |
| [07:42:00] | j-rod: | I'll throw one of my m179s in w/the D492 |
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| [07:43:00] | mchou: | j-rod: heh, you just asking for problems, arent you? :) |
| [07:44:00] | j-rod: | oh yeah! :) |
| [07:44:00] | Skif: | I'm a little confused reading the setup docs on mythtv.org. My 500 has two tuners-- am I correct in assuming they are /dev/video0 and /dev/video1, and I should set them up in the Capture Cards screen as Tuner 0 and 1, respectively? Or should they both be /dev/video0, only with different tuners setup? |
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| [07:45:00] | j-rod: | Skif: one /dev/video0, one /dev/video1 |
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| [07:45:00] | Skif: | j-rod: thanks. |
| [07:46:00] | j-rod: | np |
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| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what myth frontend works with backend 15? |
| [07:48:00] | thechris: | anyone know any good/cheap hardware mpeg cards besides the hauppague line? |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause it says mine is 14 and I need 15? |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | thechris: lol.... |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thechris: I brokedown and got the pvr-350 :) |
| [07:48:00] | thechris: | i'm sure it gets asked a lot. |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | thechris: why do you say that? |
| [07:49:00] | thechris: | anyone wanting to do a PVR in linux needs to get a linux supported TV tuner |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: do you know perhaps what frontend works with backend 15? |
| [07:49:00] | thechris: | and mpeg2 is a good feature |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: take a wild guess. |
| [07:49:00] | HRearden: | you typically want your backend and frontend to be exactly the same. |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: well I am using mythfrontend-0.17 in gentoo so I am kinda confused :P |
| [07:51:00] | HRearden: | protocol versions are different than myth versions. If you align the myth versions, though, the protocols will be the same too. |
| [07:51:00] | mchou: | thechris: and so, that make you think ppl would seek ones other than hauppauge? |
| [07:51:00] | thechris: | mchou: the widespread availability of cheap MCE2k5 cards |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well goodstuff HRearden thanks :) |
| [07:52:00] | thechris: | it is kinda annoying to pay 2–3x as much for a tv-tuner just because you want to (or have to in my case) run linux |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | now I just got to figure out how to get the 0.18 ebuild to work haha! /me runs away and fools with portage |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | thechris: "widespread?" who else besides avermedia? nvtv sux. we wont even mention ati. |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | thechris: you found HW encoderd 2–3x cheaper than hauppauge? Enquiring minds want to know where and which ones :) |
| [07:54:00] | thechris: | mchou: the ATI is down near $60, which is about half of a 250, and an third of a 350 |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I love that phrase "Enquiring minds wnat to know" its so ohh cool :) |
| [07:54:00] | thechris: | there are a few others in the 60–80 range, which is approximately half of the 250 |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | I dont think ATI is HW encode. |
| [07:54:00] | thechris: | BTW, what is with the new 250MCE? |
| [07:55:00] | thechris: | mchou: it is, that is one of the requirements to be MCE2k5 certified |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | igot 2x150 rtl for $60 each. hardly call that expensive. |
| [07:55:00] | thechris: | mchou: does that have hardward mpeg? |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | thechris: you are just fishing, man. go do some research. |
| [07:56:00] | thechris: | mchou: where? |
| [07:56:00] | thechris: | i've googled for this |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | www.google.com is a good place to start |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [07:57:00] | thechris: | you just get old posts and a bunch of MCE2k5 with linux ads |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you read every word of the <so called old posts> |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | thechris is just clearly misinformed. |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you read the mythtv documentation from front to back? I can assure you there is some hints in there |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | lol :) |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | shit mate I am a total noob to mythtv and I can figure that out |
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| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry mchou :) |
| [07:58:00] | thechris: | well, ok, lets not read my replies then make fun of me for it |
| [07:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not making fun of you |
| [07:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all I said is that perhaps you should go take a look at the documentation and read it from front to back on mythtv.org |
| [07:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did that came here asked a few questions learned that the pvr-350 would be the best for what I wanted to do |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | lol...you think he might get the hint this time? :) |
| [08:00:00] | thechris: | i'll try that. IIRC they used either a 250 or a leadtek (software) card |
| [08:00:00] | thechris: | what hint, that you don't know |
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| [08:01:00] | mchou: | thechris: your attempts to gather info are just so feeble. |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | thechris: try your bait on some fish, maybe they might bite. |
| [08:01:00] | thechris: | why the fuck are you here? this is a chat room. info is exchange. |
| [08:02:00] | thechris: | if you're clueless, just STFU |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol thechris |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats just being childish |
| [08:02:00] | thechris: | a little |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | thechris: we've just established that you're the one that's clueless. |
| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | keep in mind most of these support channels have language rules and if you violate them you can be banned so please simmer down nah! |
| [08:03:00] | thechris: | yes, that's why i'm asking the quesiton. |
| [08:03:00] | thechris: | you just don't know the answers but reply anyways |
| [08:03:00] | thechris: | SlicerDicer-: message received |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | you come in here making silly assertions about HW encoders 2–3x cheaper than hauppauge. I've already provided evidence to the contrary..... |
| [08:04:00] | thechris: | the 150 doesn't seem to have any HW mpeg. |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | thechris: so far you've not been able to substantiate your claim, and you accuse me of being clueless. lol :) |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | wow, someone is intentionally being dense. |
| [08:06:00] | thechris: | hmm, that 150 actaully looks like a good deal. i had always heard it wasn't a HW mpeg card |
| [08:06:00] | thechris: | and the 250/350 are definately $120+ |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | thechris: so? |
| [08:06:00] | thechris: | all you really had to say was that the 150 was HW based... |
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| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thechris: did you even bother to go look at the details on the card to learn about it? Why are you here asking if its HW mpeg would that not be on the site with the 250/350? |
| [08:07:00] | thechris: | no, someone had told me it was software based and that the 250 did HW encode and the 350 HW encode/decode |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | thechris: right. So you couldn't be bothered to check the maunufacturer's site. |
| [08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or did you just now find out via mchou that the 150 was a good deal without looking baiting information out of him then slamming it against him without a clue as to what your talking about from my end this is what it seems like I dont mean to be rude but come on.... |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | Instead you come in here asking us "clueless" ppl. |
| [08:09:00] | thechris: | do you guys have friends you trust? |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | what good are friends that you cant trust? |
| [08:09:00] | thechris: | well, in anycase, if a friend has told me the 150 isn't HW, then i'll take that for the truth |
| [08:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jesus christ thechris http://hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr150.html look at that link and shut it your the one who is clueless a simple google search can yeild astonishing results |
| [08:10:00] | thechris: | ok, it was a misunderstanding. i was unaware the 150 had any HW features and would not have searched for the 150 specifically because it was on a mental blacklist |
| [08:10:00] | thechris: | due to misinformation from friends |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: not to mention 150 is mce certified :) |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: :) |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: thechris cant be bothered to put 2 and 2 together. |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: speaking of the pvr-150 I got the 350 so I could decode/output with that one and encode as well then the pvr-150 to just encode :) least thats my plan if I can ever get this working |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | heh, dont give mr clueless any more ideas :) |
| [08:13:00] | thechris: | ok, my bad |
| [08:15:00] | thechris: | i'm almost afraid to ask if it does the sound over the PCI bus... |
| [08:15:00] | thechris: | you have inadvertantly helped me, and for that i am marginally grateful |
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| [08:37:00] | P0wer1: | Can some1 give advice...I am planning on setting up a mythtv gentoo box. I found an MSI TV@nywhere card, I also found a intel BT848 chipset card. Should these work any advice? |
| [08:40:00] | P0wer1: | any1? |
| [08:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry I dont know anything about those cards |
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| [08:52:00] | mchou: | P0wer1: are they free? |
| [08:56:00] | AndyCap: | P0wer1: the bt848 will probably work with bttv, but there's no tuner on it right? the TV@anywhere could be a cx88 based card, not sure if it will work with the cx88 driver |
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| [09:02:00] | P0wer1: | AndyCap, thanks....sorry was away... |
| [09:02:00] | P0wer1: | mchou, yeah found them lying around the workshop |
| [09:03:00] | P0wer1: | AndyCap, All I have is a set top digital sattelite box next to the tv.... I just want myth to be able to pause live channels and possibly change channels.... so a tuner wont be used anyway. |
| [09:04:00] | P0wer1: | AndyCap, and also want to use the remote feature of MSI tv@nywhere to control mythtv |
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| [09:06:00] | BobJensen: | Is there a guide for setting up multiple Myth boxes so they work together? I have a "Master Backend" set up and 5 other machines that will be "slave backends", "frontends" and a "dual purpose" devices |
| [09:07:00] | riddler: | anyone know whats involved in getting subtitles to work? |
| [09:12:00] | riddler: | anyone here? |
| [09:15:00] | AndyCap: | P0wer1: hmm, not sure how easy it is to set that up. but it should be doable. |
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| [10:06:00] | BobJensen: | anyone awake that knows a little mysql? |
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| [10:08:00] | ** levon pets his little mysql ** | |
| [10:09:00] | BobJensen: | levon: First should my slave backends connect to the masters DB/ |
| [10:10:00] | lucas333: | yes |
| [10:11:00] | ** levon nods ** | |
| [10:11:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Sorry that machine locked up |
| [10:12:00] | Bob-Laptop: | How do I make it so the other machines can access the DB |
| [10:14:00] | levon: | you connect to the mysql database and do a GRANT |
| [10:14:00] | Bob-Laptop: | levon: yes I understand that much I was looking at the sql that was used to create the DB |
| [10:15:00] | Bob-Laptop: | it has 'GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv";' what do I use in place of localhost? |
| [10:15:00] | BobJensen: | levon: if that is the case (I assume it is) how do I change my DB so the other machines can access |
| [10:15:00] | levon: | the ip adress of the other backends/frontends |
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| [10:15:00] | Bob-Laptop: | levon: there is not a wild card of some sort? |
| [10:15:00] | levon: | put the ip addresses in ''. |
| [10:15:00] | levon: | yes |
| [10:15:00] | levon: | * |
| [10:15:00] | levon: | ;) |
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| [10:16:00] | Bob-Laptop: | OK gave me a syntax error when using * |
| [10:19:00] | Bob-Laptop: | You have an error in your SQL syntax near '* IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"' at line 1 |
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| [10:19:00] | Bob-Laptop: | OK that was odd, it worked |
| [10:20:00] | Bob-Laptop: | levon: thank you very much |
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| [10:31:00] | BobJensen: | I guess that did not actually work |
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| [10:38:00] | ** levon agrees ** | |
| [10:38:00] | levon: | looks odd |
| [10:38:00] | levon: | use this: |
| [10:38:00] | levon: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'*' IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv" |
| [10:39:00] | BobJensen: | I just added the other boxes by IP that worked |
| [10:40:00] | BobJensen: | Now I just have to figure out how to get the tuners of the backend slaves working with the master |
| [10:42:00] | BobJensen: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [10:45:00] | levon: | a-ha |
| [10:45:00] | BobJensen: | levon: Now we both kow |
| [10:45:00] | BobJensen: | know |
| [10:46:00] | levon: | ;) |
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| [12:02:00] | st0rmy: | anyone here good with lircd? |
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| [12:06:00] | st0rmy: | anyone around? |
| [12:15:00] | riksta: | just state the problem |
| [12:15:00] | st0rmy: | I want to configure a remote to use with myth, how do I use lircd to get the signals? I use the homebrew ir – receiver from lirc.org |
| [12:17:00] | st0rmy: | cna you teach/guide me how do I go around configuring it? |
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| [12:27:00] | slePP: | riksta: http://pastebin.ca/comments.php |
| [12:27:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [12:27:00] | ** slePP goes to bed. ** | |
| [12:27:00] | riksta: | yo |
| [12:27:00] | riksta: | nite |
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| [12:34:00] | st0rmy: | riksta, no help :/ |
| [12:35:00] | riksta: | have you compile lircd with the correct driver? |
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| [12:43:00] | tyrese: | is there a internet radio plugin for mythTV? And also, can I play streaming TV using Myth? |
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| [12:59:00] | einar_: | Can someone help in setting up MythTV ? I'm at the mysql part |
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| [13:19:00] | maniacxs: | Hi there. Trying once more to ask here, after i got no answer last time. While using mythfrontend, it hangs. I think it is the mythfrontend causes the X to make high cpu usage. Only solution for me in the moment is to 'killall -9 X' every ~5mins while watching TV/Videos. Would be nice, if someone could help. |
| [13:20:00] | maniacxs: | It hangs in the menus or while listening to music, too. |
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| [16:46:00] | darkfrog: | rjune, gotcha |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | stupid shit-ass bot that doesn't rejoin properly |
| [16:46:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | java POS |
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| [16:46:00] | darkfrog: | Java Point-of-Sale? :o |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | you must be in sales |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | POS = piece of shit |
| [16:46:00] | darkfrog: | hehe, no, actually I'm a java programmer. :o |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | always has been, always will be |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | and Java = POS |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:47:00] | ** darkfrog slaps Beirdo with his own stupidity ** | |
| [16:47:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: the worst thing about java is people that don't understand how to use it |
| [16:47:00] | darkfrog: | :-p |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | that logging bot uses 40M of memory |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, 60M |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | fucking retarded |
| [16:47:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, that just means it's incorrectly written, I could do it in less than 5 |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | it's Java |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | Java's always a memory hog |
| [16:48:00] | laga: | just use eggdrop... |
| [16:48:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, www.pyramex.com <-- that's written in Java (by me I might add) and it's faster than just about any other mail server out there. |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'll be writing my own bot |
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| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | hahahah |
| [16:49:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, and it's not a memory hog. :o |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | a Java mail server, and you think it's faster than Postfix? |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:49:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, yes, it is |
| [16:49:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, if you disable all of the filtering policies |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | it is to laugh, sorry |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'd like to see you push millions of messages a day through it. |
| [16:50:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, it's okay, it's a common misconception that Java is slow because many java programmers don't know how to write effective code. |
| [16:50:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, it does |
| [16:51:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, I've got stress testing stats on it also....Postfix was not one of the candidates I used for stress testing, but sendmail was. |
| [16:51:00] | rjune: | that's because postfix is a pain in the ass |
| [16:51:00] | darkfrog: | come to think of it...I should probably do testing against Postfix just to prove to people like you how wrong you are. :-p |
| [16:51:00] | hadees (~hadees@hadees.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [16:52:00] | rjune: | darkfrog: people like that won't accept proof until it get's shoved down their throut |
| [16:52:00] | darkfrog: | rjune, don't give up just yet, you might be surprised...many people just have never heard the truth. :o |
| [16:52:00] | rjune: | darkfrog: don't get excited, java doesn't do squat for me |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | you can't compare to sendmail and say you tested against the competition |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | that's retarded |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | sendmail is not scalable |
| [16:53:00] | rjune: | I just acknowledge that it has a bad rap because people try to use it like C or C++ |
| [16:53:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, it's true that startup times on Java are much slower than compiled code, but once it's going it's more stable and typically just as fast as comparable compiled code when written properly...sometimes faster. |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | it is not more stable |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | long startup times suck. imho. |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | it can not be more stable |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | properly written C code is as stable as you can get |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | you can't GET more stable than never crashing :) |
| [16:54:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, I also did testing against about 10 others, I was just primarily focused on bigger competitors like Exchange. |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | well, duh |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | anything's better than Exchange |
| [16:56:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, consider the fact that many of the aspects of code you have to write yourself has been available in Java for years and has been being updated for stability and efficiency. Are you saying most people write perfectly efficient and perfectly stable C/C++ code on a normal basis? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | and properly written C code will run circles around properly written Java. Any day of the week |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | do you think that everyone writes everything from scratch every time they write a program? |
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| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | I have C functions that I wrote years ago that I still use, and have had more stability testing than many Java implementations |
| [16:57:00] | darkfrog: | rjune, okay, you were right...I was wrong. :o |
| [16:58:00] | darkfrog: | hehe |
| [16:58:00] | rjune: | darkfrog: it takes a man to admit that |
| [16:58:00] | darkfrog: | rjune, well I'm not a woman if that's what your saying. :-p |
| [16:59:00] | rjune: | darkfrog: nope, you admit when you're wrong |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | granted, java builtin stuff may be better than the average joe's attempt at writing similar code |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | but not better than a skilled programmer |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | be similar to a skilled programmer |
| [17:00:00] | darkfrog: | Beirdo, are you saying the people that write that code at Sun Microsystems are not as competent of programmers as that of a typically C/C++ "skilled programmer"? |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | Heh. |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | I'm saying they are forced to do things for marketing reasons |
| [17:01:00] | darkfrog: | okay, on that note I'll remove myself from the conversation |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | the end result is a setup that ends up being slower than necessary, and bloated |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | much like much of the C++ crowd ends up with for that matter |
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| [17:03:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | vim sucks, btw... |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | whatever, nano-lover :) |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | so i got this paytv suscription for 2 euros. |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, my adsense is up to $40.73 |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | instead of 60. |
| [17:05:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: at least you use vim. |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | vim rules |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | java has its place |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | server-side applications is NOT one of them |
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| [17:05:00] | laga: | nice |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | *click* |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | yeah, vim is nice, indeed. |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | Beirdo: in the trash can, IYHO? ;) |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | for portable GUI applications, Java's not a bad idea |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | sometimes |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | it's slow as hell. |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | laga: it doesn't have to be |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | JIT helps that a ton |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | for something that's going to run as a daemon on a server, use a REAL compiled language, there's no benefit to using Java |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | this set top box i just got on ebay runs on java, too. channel changing is slow. very slow. thanks god i can flash linux on it. ;)0 |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | as does the VMs in hardware, aka java procs |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: you can compile java |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | rjune: i only have experienced with java as a user. and most applications were slow. |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | bah, what a waste of effort |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | laga: that's because most java developers suck |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | learn a more efficient language |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: not really. |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | Java is to programming what NT was to servers |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | yeah. SHIT |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | "Anybody can do it, it's sooo easy" |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | as a result, a whole mess of unqualified people are given tasks and projects to do using it |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | and a whole pile of people that use it for stuff it shouldn't be used for |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | like mail servers |
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| [17:09:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [17:09:00] | ** rjune shrugs, Java can be as good as compiled code. ** | |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | what is +v? |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | for a web-distributed application that you want to work on any platform, Java reigns supreme |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: actually, I like php for web stff |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | rjune: voice |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | no, I mean an app that you want to run on the client's machine |
| [17:10:00] | rjune: | aka they can talk again? |
| [17:10:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: ah, yeah |
| [17:10:00] | rjune: | like games |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, or the Gallery Remote applet |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | rjune: nope. that's just if a channel is moderated. |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | it's great, I can use it on any platform |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | rjune: voice can mean that you have some kind of special status in a channel. |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much... |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | in #linux.de in the IRCnet, it means "i'm dumb" |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | and people are usually happy when they get +v.... |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | laga: Sie sind Deutschlander, ja? |
| [17:12:00] | xris: | it means that someone thinks I know what I'm talking about. |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | rjune: yep ;) |
| [17:12:00] | jasoncohen: | my videos are stored in a remote NFS share /video/stuff. After upgrading my system from mdk 10.1 to 2005 LE I'm getting a permission denied error from the server when i try to mount. |
| [17:12:00] | xris: | which is often the case, depending on the topic. |
| [17:12:00] | jasoncohen: | the /etc/exports entry is '/video/stuff (rw,no_root_squash)" |
| [17:12:00] | ** xris knows all kinds of things about making mead and hard cider. ** | |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmm. boooooze |
| [17:13:00] | rjune: | xris: ok, how do I tell mythtv to autoplay a vcd? |
| [17:13:00] | xris: | no clue, I don't use mythvideo |
| [17:13:00] | rjune: | bum |
| [17:13:00] | rjune: | :-) |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Aren't VCD's a MythDVD thing ?:) |
| [17:14:00] | rjune: | I dunno |
| [17:14:00] | jasoncohen: | yes, they are |
| [17:15:00] | jasoncohen: | mythdvd has VCD support. mythvideo doesn't play from optical media. |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | well, shows my ignorance. I don't use any of that stuff. |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | just mythtv and mythweb. |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | too much time developing to have time to poke at the other stuff. |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use MythTV, Mythweb, and Mythvideo. rarey use any of the other stuff |
| [17:15:00] | jasoncohen: | mythvideo is useful because it creates a list of all your movies with IMDB info + dvd covers |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it as a menu to navigate the filesystem, I don't use the gallery stuff, except to show it to people who are interested in it |
| [17:16:00] | jasoncohen: | anyone know what's causing my NFS problem |
| [17:17:00] | xris: | jasoncohen: except that I've never gotten it to work properly. |
| [17:17:00] | xris: | and haven't had time to figure out why. |
| [17:17:00] | jasoncohen: | xris: the only problem i've had with mythvideo is getting the covers to show in mythweb |
| [17:18:00] | jasoncohen: | i think i had to create a symbolic link in /var/www/html/mythweb/ to the covers dir and then set that in conf.php |
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| [17:21:00] | xris: | jasoncohen: every time I run the video scan, it grabs all of my stuff, but never assigns titles, so when I look at the list, the entries are all blank. |
| [17:22:00] | jasoncohen: | oh, well of course, heh |
| [17:22:00] | jasoncohen: | you have to hit "I" on each film to grab IMDB info |
| [17:23:00] | jasoncohen: | because of the # of movies out there you need to do each movie individually. Most will select a title/cover automatically but some will give you choices |
| [17:24:00] | jasoncohen: | hit I and then choose search IMDB. On rare occasions the search choices might not give you what you want so you might need to manually enter a IMDB# which is the string of digits at the end of the URL |
| [17:26:00] | jasoncohen: | xris: for some reason by default mythweb doesn't know where to find dvd covers. They're located in ~/.mythtv/MythVideo. I added a symbolic link to /home/jason/.mythtv/MythVideo in /var/www/html/mythweb called video and then changed the covers path to define('video_img_path' 'video'_; |
| [17:27:00] | VxJasonxV: | hey |
| [17:27:00] | VxJasonxV: | I'm /home/jason too |
| [17:28:00] | VxJasonxV: | :D |
| [17:28:00] | ** VxJasonxV returns to lurking ** | |
| [17:30:00] | jasoncohen: | heh |
| [17:30:00] | jasoncohen: | VxJasonxV: do you find that there are too many Jason's? |
| [17:31:00] | jasoncohen: | there's always someone with my same first & last name at every school |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | haha |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | I never have that problem |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | not on either count |
| [17:31:00] | jasoncohen: | and that leads to inevitable confusion and wrong report cards being sent |
| [17:32:00] | jasoncohen: | ...wait, i'm not in this class...oh- they did it again |
| [17:32:00] | ** Beirdo laughs at the "John Smith" group ** | |
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| [17:32:00] | jasoncohen: | and the jason cohen at my HS wasn't even jewish! |
| [17:32:00] | jasoncohen: | he was hispanic |
| [17:32:00] | jasoncohen: | no clue how he got the last name cohen |
| [17:32:00] | ** laga has one "annalena schwartz", one "annalisa schwartz" and one "anne schwarz" in his class – confusing, too ** | |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | a lot of "Blacks" in your class, laga. |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | there white, though. |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | they're |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | of course, just their name is "Black" |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | yep |
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| [17:34:00] | cyberknet: | Aah, the miracle of modern translation engines. Whereby the uneducated persons of english descent may finally understand what shrimfrara is. Joy. |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | and what umm is shrimfara? |
| [17:35:00] | cyberknet: | shrimp fried rice, apparently. shrim fra ra |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | oh, ok. |
| [17:36:00] | cyberknet: | apparently so is nummafordeeseben |
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| [17:39:00] | cyberknet: | *yawn* |
| [17:39:00] | cyberknet: | I better go get some food. |
| [17:45:00] | slePP: | not a single user has left any comments yet. hmm |
| [17:45:00] | slePP: | bastards |
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| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | some of us are busy doing other stuf :) |
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| [17:53:00] | slePP: | yeh, so? :> |
| [17:53:00] | slePP: | it's my pretty new pb section :> |
| [17:53:00] | slePP: | who doesn't want to put up comments! |
| [17:53:00] | slePP: | (apparently everyone) |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | wtf would you need a wiki? |
| [17:55:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [17:55:00] | slePP: | it was just an idea :> |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [17:55:00] | slePP: | which has a fairly resounding 'no' |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:58:00] | cyberknet: | peanut butter? |
| [17:58:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
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| [18:00:00] | cyberknet: | I see no wiki |
| [18:01:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [18:01:00] | slePP: | there's a poll question about putting a wiki on the pastebin |
| [18:02:00] | cyberknet: | there you go. |
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| [18:02:00] | cyberknet: | better? =) |
| [18:02:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/polldetail.php?id=13 |
| [18:02:00] | cyberknet: | 35% said yes at least =) |
| [18:02:00] | slePP: | hehe |
| [18:02:00] | slePP: | yeh. it's making it a hard call |
| [18:03:00] | cyberknet: | let me make it an easier call |
| [18:03:00] | cyberknet: | If you implement it, will it make the people who said no discontnet? |
| [18:03:00] | cyberknet: | discontent, even |
| [18:04:00] | ** slePP points towards http://pastebin.ca/polldetail.php?id=4 ** | |
| [18:05:00] | slePP: | based on 7, no one wants to see anything that big, but based on 4, they're not opposed to having way more features |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | I don't know if I see the point. |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | but I just use it to paste text, and usually set it to expire within an hour or two |
| [18:06:00] | slePP: | yeh |
| [18:06:00] | ** slePP 's entire idea for a pastebin went beyond temporal usability ** | |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | slePP: count me in on the "diff support"-feature. |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | it's more like microsoft now, huh? ;) |
| [18:07:00] | slePP: | into a spot to dump useful tidbits as well for searches to result in handy things |
| [18:07:00] | slePP: | laga: the diff support is already done :> |
| [18:07:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=10741&id2=10742 |
| [18:07:00] | slePP: | except i syntax highlight _everything_ to C by accident :> |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | cool |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | i guess that beirdo appreciates that ;) |
| [18:09:00] | cyberknet: | No, he'd want hilighting to C++ |
| [18:09:00] | cyberknet: | damn C++ nazi |
| [18:09:00] | ** xris kicks X — let go of my mouse and arrow keys! ** | |
| [18:09:00] | ** Beirdo slaps cyberknet with a trout ** | |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a lover of C, not C++ |
| [18:09:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo--; |
| [18:09:00] | cyberknet: | hah! |
| [18:09:00] | cyberknet: | You are now gone |
| [18:10:00] | xris: | brb |
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| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | hmm. Henry's wants $160 for a used F65 body |
| [18:10:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: What is the distrobution of expiration times in general? |
| [18:10:00] | laga: | lets hope that his thunder storm doesnt take my machines down. |
| [18:11:00] | cyberknet: | I never set an expiration. |
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| [18:11:00] | laga: | my myth system is currently recording the simpsons ;) |
| [18:11:00] | cyberknet: | laga: Gotta get the important stuff. |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [18:11:00] | cyberknet: | laga: this situation calls for MofoUPS 9,000. |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | even if it costs a few PSUs and HDDs |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | cyberknet: hehe, yep. |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | cyberknet: i hear that the 18.000 is even better. |
| [18:12:00] | cyberknet: | laga: almost 2x! |
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| [18:12:00] | laga: | yep! |
| [18:12:00] | cyberknet: | aoL! |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | and i dont get mails from tbay today, which sucks. |
| [18:12:00] | cyberknet: | tbay? |
| [18:13:00] | laga: | ebay. |
| [18:13:00] | cyberknet: | ah |
| [18:13:00] | cyberknet: | I wondered if it was an ebay clone |
| [18:13:00] | laga: | hehe, nope |
| [18:13:00] | cyberknet: | "Half price auctions at Tbay.com!" "Oh man, I want half price auctions!" "Me too!" "AOL!" |
| [18:14:00] | laga: | lol |
| [18:14:00] | cyberknet: | aah man. procrastionation almost always pays off |
| [18:15:00] | cyberknet: | =)) |
| [18:16:00] | laga: | shut it, i haven't studied yet for the computer science test tomorrow |
| [18:17:00] | cyberknet: | "Hey, man, I butchered our last mailing" "Wow. I haven't loaded it yet. How about that?" =) |
| [18:19:00] | slePP: | i hate my internet connection |
| [18:19:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: i don't know the distribution... what sort of graph would you like to see? |
| [18:19:00] | slePP: | probability density? |
| [18:19:00] | slePP: | cuz i forget how to do those :> |
| [18:20:00] | cyberknet: | Hmmm... count of records, grouped by expiration length. Maybe another also grouped by submit hour. |
| [18:20:00] | cyberknet: | s/records/pastes/ |
| [18:21:00] | cyberknet: | but if "expiration" = "deleted from db" then that would be difficult to do =) |
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| [18:21:00] | slePP: | heh. of course it doesn't mean that :> |
| [18:21:00] | ** slePP never deletes anything ** | |
| [18:22:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [18:22:00] | cyberknet: | good boy =) |
| [18:23:00] | slePP: | well, about 6 of the total 10,000+ posts have been deleted for cease/desists |
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| [18:24:00] | cyberknet: | what kind of stuff got cease/desisted? |
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| [18:25:00] | cyberknet: | php error |
| [18:25:00] | cyberknet: | http://pastebin.ca/rawdiff.php?id1=10833&id2=10833 |
| [18:25:00] | slePP: | someone compromised a server's list of passwords and pasted it up (twice) |
| [18:25:00] | cyberknet: | want me to paste the error on in a new paste? =) |
| [18:25:00] | ** slePP received legal warning to remove it ** | |
| [18:26:00] | jasoncohen: | i can't connect to a remote mysql server from my laptop. i setup the server to grant access to any user (i'm behind a firewall) and i have MySQL-client installed on my laptop |
| [18:27:00] | jasoncohen: | Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.0.9' (111) |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm, someone's clicking on my ads today :) |
| [18:27:00] | laga: | Beirdo: blame me ;) |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:27:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: http://pastebin.ca/10835 |
| [18:27:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
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| [18:27:00] | cyberknet: | expires in 5 minutes |
| [18:27:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=10833&id2=10833 |
| [18:27:00] | slePP: | works now :> |
| [18:28:00] | cyberknet: | I just refreshed and got the same |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=10833&id2=10831 <- o_O |
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| [18:29:00] | cyberknet: | Yes |
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| [18:30:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/10836 |
| [18:30:00] | cyberknet: | what are you making faces atheh |
| [18:30:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [18:30:00] | cyberknet: | lmao |
| [18:30:00] | slePP: | oh, now i completely broke it |
| [18:30:00] | cyberknet: | hah |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | well done |
| [18:31:00] | slePP: | all better |
| [18:32:00] | cyberknet: | all better |
| [18:32:00] | cyberknet: | this is an odd diff... |
| [18:32:00] | cyberknet: | http://pastebin.ca/rawdiff.php?id1=10834&id2=10833 |
| [18:32:00] | cyberknet: | delete two lines then add one in that you just deleted |
| [18:34:00] | slePP: | that is weird... |
| [18:35:00] | cyberknet: | reverse does the same thing. subtract one line, add two |
| [18:36:00] | slePP: | heh. you expired those way too early... |
| [18:36:00] | cyberknet: | =P" |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | aha! |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | <div class="raw" id="source"><ol><li><div class="de1">Deletey Schlemetey </div></li></ol></div> |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | <div class="raw" id="source"><ol><li><div class="de1">Deletey Schlemetey</div></li> |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | <li><div class="de1">Update Schmalatey </div></li></ol></div> |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | note the extra whitespace on Deletey Schlemetey |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [18:37:00] | slePP: | i wonder if i should run diff with -b |
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| [18:38:00] | cyberknet: | no extra white space in the raw diff |
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| [18:38:00] | slePP: | yeh, i see that |
| [18:38:00] | slePP: | but that's diff's fault |
| [18:39:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=10834&id2=10833 |
| [18:39:00] | slePP: | diff -bB gives that result |
| [18:39:00] | slePP: | which is more "sensible" |
| [18:39:00] | cyberknet: | I concur |
| [18:39:00] | cyberknet: | the white space is probably the newline |
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| [18:40:00] | slePP: | no, newlines are stored properly.. |
| [18:40:00] | slePP: | i'm not too sure where that may be coming from |
| [18:40:00] | cyberknet: | who knows. maybe I typed it |
| [18:40:00] | cyberknet: | I can't say for sure that I didn't |
| [18:40:00] | cyberknet: | but I do concur with the -bB |
| [18:40:00] | slePP: | it's only adding it to the end of your posts |
| [18:42:00] | cyberknet: | I just added two posts |
| [18:42:00] | cyberknet: | see if it added white space to those. |
| [18:43:00] | slePP: | interesting |
| [18:43:00] | cyberknet: | nesting of descendants in recent posts would be nice =) |
| [18:44:00] | slePP: | "This is a post with no space at the end |
| [18:44:00] | slePP: | This is the same post with an addition, but still no space at the ends" |
| [18:44:00] | slePP: | "This is a post with no space at the end" |
| [18:44:00] | slePP: | the space is getting tossed in elsewhere |
| [18:44:00] | cyberknet: | gah! |
| [18:44:00] | cyberknet: | a pastebin that does not accurately represent the data that was input?! |
| [18:44:00] | slePP: | but it shouldn't be ending up in the diff's... |
| [18:44:00] | slePP: | heh. the incoming data is stored in content properly. the highlighter is appending a ' ' |
| [18:44:00] | cyberknet: | what is the world coming to? |
| [18:45:00] | cyberknet: | Content Type Raw is hilighted? |
| [18:45:00] | slePP: | that's the odd bit... yes... heh |
| [18:45:00] | slePP: | just on digits'n'stuff |
| [18:45:00] | cyberknet: | aha |
| [18:45:00] | ** slePP isn't sure why. GeSHi is misbehaving ** | |
| [18:45:00] | cyberknet: | =P |
| [18:46:00] | cyberknet: | maybe diff is removing hte lines because it doesn't have <n> lines of context? |
| [18:46:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, nevermind about the mysql question. apparnetly when i did the upgrade from 10.1 to 2005 LE, /etc/sysconfig/mysqld was replaced with the default version which specified skip-networking. once i deleted the line, mythtv worked |
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| [18:48:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: it's all about the extra space ending up from somewhere |
| [18:49:00] | cyberknet: | RAW isn't hilighted when you vew a post. only when you view a diff. that's interesting =) |
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| [18:49:00] | slePP: | oh, yeh |
| [18:49:00] | slePP: | that's cuz i forcibly highlight everything to 'c' :> |
| [18:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Do each of the slave backends need their own database server running, or can they all use the same one? |
| [18:49:00] | slePP: | cuz i'm silly |
| [18:49:00] | slePP: | LaggyMcGee: all need to use the same one |
| [18:50:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: so many problems, so few testers. Imagine if we all reported our problems =) |
| [18:50:00] | slePP: | i wish you would :> |
| [18:50:00] | slePP: | hence the comments section no one uses |
| [18:51:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: All of the backends need to use the same database? |
| [18:51:00] | slePP: | LaggyMcGee: yes |
| [18:52:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: Alright... that's what I'm doing. |
| [18:52:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: if all the people actually reported issues, i would've known how IE messed up the post page earlier than 6 months into it |
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| [18:52:00] | slePP: | and that the 'save my name in a cookie' feature hadn't worked in months either :> |
| [18:52:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: And I set up my slave backend and when I go to Tuner Status, it says that the slave is not available... |
| [18:52:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: What are some reasons that the slave tuner wouldn't be available? |
| [18:52:00] | slePP: | you'd think with >170,000 hits/month, i'd get _some_ feedback.. more than the random e-mail saying 'i need XX deleted' |
| [18:53:00] | slePP: | LaggyMcGee: is the slave setup to connect to the same DB, and has the proper master backend IP in it? and if so, is the slave mythbackend running? if it is, restart it and see if it shows up |
| [18:53:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: Yes, all of that is true, and I restarted and nothing. |
| [18:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | i'll try restarting both backends again |
| [18:54:00] | slePP: | LaggyMcGee: interesting... don't think i'm going to be very useful, then :> |
| [18:54:00] | slePP: | turn on debugging logs and see what the slave says when it tries to connect to the master |
| [18:55:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: Well, there you go: "Could not connect to master server." Interesting... |
| [18:56:00] | slePP: | perhaps the IP is wrong, or the mysql.txt config file is wrong... |
| [18:59:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: how about nesting related pastes? |
| [18:59:00] | cyberknet: | with your new uber algorithm =) |
| [19:00:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: thinking about it... |
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| [19:02:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: it's not obvious in the recent pastes that pastes are related unless the author thinks to add v2 etc |
| [19:07:00] | cyberknet: | *yawn* |
| [19:07:00] | LaggyMcGee: | slePP: All the logs look good, but when I go to the System Status page, the app freezes |
| [19:07:00] | goodtod: | is anyone using the asus pundit as a frontend? |
| [19:24:00] | cyberknet: | not I |
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| [19:43:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: you know how hard it is to make a nice <ol> list of posts from this lft/rgt tree? |
| [19:43:00] | slePP: | it's a pain :> |
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| [19:59:00] | mirov: | Hi folks. Any trick to getting the "Master Server" set up the first time? I have a single box (Fedora 3) and have entered the IP correctly. |
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| [20:07:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Yes. I did it for an employee directory once, with javascript dhtml expanding and contracting regions. |
| [20:08:00] | jasoncohen: | a user on #mandriva is having an issue where running mythfilldatabase where program listings are downloaded but he doesn't have a list of channels in the channel screen of mythtv setup, and he can't change channels |
| [20:08:00] | jasoncohen: | *when running mythfilldatabase |
| [20:08:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: should be easily fixed. just ftp him a fedora core dvd iso image. |
| [20:09:00] | jasoncohen: | that's amusing. i found mythtv a lot easier to setup in mandrake |
| [20:09:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: more seriously, he probably just hasn't linked his videosource with his capturecard. |
| [20:09:00] | cyberknet: | mandrivel |
| [20:10:00] | mirov: | is there a text settings file somewhere that I can edit/view ? |
| [20:10:00] | jasoncohen: | why do you want to mirov? |
| [20:10:00] | cyberknet: | mirov: there's mysql.txt |
| [20:10:00] | jasoncohen: | but that's only for connecting with the frontend |
| [20:10:00] | mirov: | I can't seem to get the "Master Server" running. |
| [20:11:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: the back end doesn't use it to connect to the mysql server? |
| [20:11:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: i'm running my mythtv backend/frontend on Mandriva 2005 LE (flawless upgrade from 10.1) and a remote frontend on 2005 LE laptop |
| [20:11:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: nope, i believe mysql.txt just controls the frontend connection |
| [20:11:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: bully for you =) Mandriva is not a horrible choice. |
| [20:11:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: just have to basically determine depth to make the list print properly |
| [20:11:00] | jasoncohen: | the backend setup is done in mythtv-setup and is stored to the mysql db |
| [20:11:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Exactly. |
| [20:12:00] | mirov: | Complains like this: "No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP" |
| [20:12:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: I found keeping track of the depth to be annoying =) |
| [20:12:00] | mirov: | I've run setup of course, and gave it my machine's IP. |
| [20:12:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: you need to run mythtv-setup |
| [20:12:00] | mirov: | pwd |
| [20:12:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: not worse than lft/rgt :> |
| [20:12:00] | jasoncohen: | oh |
| [20:12:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Indeed. |
| [20:13:00] | mirov: | jasoncohen: Should I run it as root or as a user ? |
| [20:13:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: when do you get that error? is the backend running? |
| [20:13:00] | jasoncohen: | mythbackend should be run as root |
| [20:13:00] | jasoncohen: | and the frontend as a user |
| [20:13:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: I only had lft and depth |
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| [20:13:00] | mirov: | jasoncohen: "mythbackend -v" gives me this error. So that's why I wanted to go check the text file to make sure that the settings were really getting to the right place. |
| [20:14:00] | jasoncohen: | run mythtv-setup as a user |
| [20:14:00] | jasoncohen: | i had this really strange issue where mythtv had 4 capture cards- two added by a user and two by root using mythtv-setup. |
| [20:15:00] | mirov: | BTW: /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt doesn't seem to have much in it that isn't commented out. |
| [20:15:00] | jasoncohen: | mysql.txt only tells the frontend the ip, db, username/passwd to connect to the backend. it doesn't control backend settings. all of the backend settings are stored inside the db |
| [20:16:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: did you run mythtv-setup as root or user? |
| [20:16:00] | mirov: | root |
| [20:16:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I only suspected that the backend might read the mysql server ip, username and password from the file, but I do not believe it does now. |
| [20:16:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: run mythtv-setup as a user |
| [20:16:00] | slePP: | oops |
| [20:17:00] | jasoncohen: | if you added capture cards using root you'll want to run it as root once more and delete capture cards or else you'll have 2 for each |
| [20:17:00] | slePP: | that was one bad recursive loop.. heh |
| [20:17:00] | ** slePP blew up php ** | |
| [20:18:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [20:18:00] | cyberknet: | nice one =) |
| [20:19:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: just curious here, what's your reasoning to adding the capture cards as a user? |
| [20:19:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: i'm not seeing that issue here. it's working fine as root. You went throgh the general settings? |
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| [20:20:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: in .17 i had a situation where i had 4 cards (2 for root & 2 for user) because i used root & then was surpised to see no cards when i did it as a user |
| [20:21:00] | jasoncohen: | only the user cards worked, so i deleted the cards on the root setup and it worked fine |
| [20:21:00] | jasoncohen: | it seems the problem has since been fixed |
| [20:21:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I would be surprised too. I can't think of a good reason why it should make a difference whether you added them as root or as a user. |
| [20:21:00] | mirov: | btw: Do I really need to specify the IP, shouldn't the 127.0.0.1 loopback default be OK ? |
| [20:21:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: is the backend/frontend on the same box? |
| [20:22:00] | mirov: | yes |
| [20:22:00] | jasoncohen: | that's fine |
| [20:22:00] | jasoncohen: | just go through all the pages in general |
| [20:23:00] | jasoncohen: | did you setup your capture cards, video source, and then bind the video source to a card? |
| [20:24:00] | mirov: | Sounds like it should just work out-of-the-box for me. I had quite a hard time finding out why my new install couldn't find the G.A.N.T them, had to link sleek to it. Then I had trouble understanding that I had to use ctrl-ENTER to select things. |
| [20:24:00] | mirov: | How do I bind a source to a card ? |
| [20:24:00] | jasoncohen: | ctrl-enter to select things? GANT should work out of the box? |
| [20:25:00] | jasoncohen: | in mythtv-setup choose input connections |
| [20:25:00] | mirov: | didn't for me on FC3. There was no GANT theme included when I yum installed last night. |
| [20:25:00] | jasoncohen: | oh- i install from source so i can't help you there. you probably just need to install the gant theme rpm |
| [20:26:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: what version of mythtv are you using? |
| [20:26:00] | mirov: | what's the easiest way to tell? |
| [20:27:00] | jasoncohen: | i find that source installs are a lot easier than rpm installs for mythtv because the documentation is far better and things just workTM |
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| [20:27:00] | jasoncohen: | mythfrontend --version |
| [20:27:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: did you install from source or rpm on mdk? |
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| [20:28:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: you'll need to go into input connections, and choose the card/input you're using |
| [20:28:00] | jasoncohen: | for example V4L Television: Source |
| [20:28:00] | mirov: | 0.18.20050409–1 |
| [20:29:00] | jasoncohen: | who does the FC3 mythtv rpms? i'm afraid to use thac's for mdk |
| [20:29:00] | jasoncohen: | and i don't like waiting until they're released. i usually compile the night a release comes out |
| [20:30:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: did you follow jarod's guide? |
| [20:30:00] | mirov: | Not knowingly. |
| [20:30:00] | jasoncohen: | http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/ |
| [20:30:00] | jasoncohen: | you should have |
| [20:31:00] | mirov: | Mostly I googled for the error msgs I was getting and followed those threads. |
| [20:32:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: Actually, I didn't install mythtv on mandrake. I used it as a desktop for several years, but prior to discovering mythtv. |
| [20:32:00] | mirov: | jasoncohen: OK, I'll try that tonight when I'm actually on the machine. At the moment I'm several machine and VNC pipes away from the box, and it is really slow to use the GUI... |
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| [20:33:00] | jasoncohen: | mirov: hmm, it's pretty responsive over VNC...slow as hell over SSH though |
| [20:33:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I liked it enough to buy the boxed set at the time... but i wouldn't go back now. *shrug* |
| [20:33:00] | jasoncohen: | my VNC is over OpenVPN too |
| [20:33:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: so why were you so scathing about mythtv on mdk? |
| [20:34:00] | jasoncohen: | i've used both and i prefer mdk for mythtv. FC3 doesn't have btaudio support in the kernel and i had several strange issues with SSH & mysql using FC3 |
| [20:34:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: Oh... I didn't mean to infer I was scathing of mdk only when myth was involved. |
| [20:34:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: the fact that myth is involved is irrelevant =P" |
| [20:34:00] | mirov: | I'm VNC'in into my work office system over the corp net, then VNC'ng thru a SSH pipe to my home gateway, then getting at mythtv with an xhost (and my uplink is really slow at home). |
| [20:34:00] | jasoncohen: | so you just don't like mdk generally? |
| [20:35:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: precisely. It's a personal opinion. |
| [20:35:00] | goodtod: | what hardware are you guys using for a frontend, how do you like it? |
| [20:35:00] | cyberknet: | I actually dislike FC for the same reasons. |
| [20:35:00] | cyberknet: | goodtod: a computer, and yes, I like it. |
| [20:35:00] | jasoncohen: | can you /msg me why you prefer FC3 anyways? |
| [20:35:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I have no experience with FC3 |
| [20:36:00] | goodtod: | cyberknet: what kind of computer? |
| [20:36:00] | cyberknet: | goodtod: a black one. |
| [20:36:00] | goodtod: | cyberknet: :-\ |
| [20:36:00] | cyberknet: | It says "Antec" on the front |
| [20:36:00] | jasoncohen: | goodtod: i'm using a amd 2700+, 512 MB ram, 550 GB with 400 GB LVM for my backend/frontend and i have another 1.6 ghz laptop frontend |
| [20:36:00] | cyberknet: | the box said "Sonata" |
| [20:36:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: then why did you say to use FC3? what distro do you use? |
| [20:37:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I said Fedora Core. You added the 3 |
| [20:37:00] | cyberknet: | I run FC2. |
| [20:37:00] | cyberknet: | Because Jarod's guide is freakin awesome. |
| [20:37:00] | CygnusX1: | ANyone here running on Slackware |
| [20:37:00] | CygnusX1: | t? |
| [20:37:00] | goodtod: | jasoncohen: 1.6ghz athlon, celeron, or pentium? |
| [20:37:00] | cyberknet: | CygnusX1: Hmmm... I think GreyFoxx does. |
| [20:38:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, just don't try installing openvpn |
| [20:38:00] | CygnusX1: | cyberknet, Sweet. Thank you. I will look him up. I got everything working nicely except the darned remote. |
| [20:38:00] | jasoncohen: | a guy on #mandriva was installing openvpn on FC2 and he had a a hell of a time doing so |
| [20:38:00] | cyberknet: | CygnusX1: I doubt he can help you with that, he uses an RF remote that interfaces with linux as a USB HID |
| [20:39:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I'll keep that in mind =) |
| [20:39:00] | jasoncohen: | mdk seems to have more packages than FC3. i just did urpmi openvpn and i was off |
| [20:39:00] | CygnusX1: | Hmmm. Maybe that's what I should work towards as well. |
| [20:39:00] | jasoncohen: | actually, then i uninstalled 1.6 and installed 2.0-rc16 because i wanted the new features |
| [20:39:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: lol, still working on the remote? |
| [20:40:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I just wanted the box up in the shortest amount of time possible. at that point in time, Jarod's guide for FC2 was the fastest and offered direct support for my hardware. |
| [20:40:00] | jasoncohen: | ah |
| [20:40:00] | cyberknet: | CygnusX1: It is a great solution. Personally I use an IR keyboard. |
| [20:40:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: I dont think GreyFoxx will be able to help you w/150 remote. He uses a derivative of the ATI remote wonder, iirc..... |
| [20:40:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: to my knowledge, Jarod's guide is still the fastest with the most complete documentation for the widest array of hardware when it comes to MythTV. |
| [20:40:00] | jasoncohen: | though, installing from source on mdk was honestly pretty damn simple. everything worked as it was supposed to and i had it running with 2 tuners in very little time |
| [20:40:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: I kind of already said that =) |
| [20:41:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: yeah well :) |
| [20:41:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx uses a niveus RF remote and he wrote a custom ati_remote driver |
| [20:41:00] | jasoncohen: | which i use |
| [20:41:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: no biggie =) |
| [20:41:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: http://pastebin.ca/comments.php |
| [20:41:00] | slePP: | how's that tree'n'stuff? |
| [20:41:00] | ** cyberknet is considering the niveus driver. ** | |
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| [20:42:00] | mchou: | personally I think RF remote is just silly. |
| [20:42:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: I dont see a tree... |
| [20:42:00] | slePP: | at the bottom |
| [20:42:00] | slePP: | after the comment itself |
| [20:43:00] | mchou: | I have an ATI remote and I've never made use of it. |
| [20:43:00] | kormoc: | mchou, my grandpa thought ir remotes were silly |
| [20:43:00] | mchou: | IR remotes are the bomb! :) |
| [20:43:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: It's okay, but something about it feels clunky... |
| [20:44:00] | mchou: | not to mention the ATI remote sux anyways (even if it's not on RF) |
| [20:44:00] | cyberknet: | perhaps that it only shows one comment at a time, and that comment is above the tree. |
| [20:44:00] | cyberknet: | and "Comment: wheer!" doesn't stand out as being the active comment title above the comment text. |
| [20:45:00] | slePP: | well! |
| [20:45:00] | cyberknet: | would you prefer me to say "AOL!" |
| [20:45:00] | cyberknet: | ? |
| [20:46:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, LOL. indeed. Actually haven't tried anything with it since last time. I don't know what else to do |
| [20:46:00] | ** slePP puts <h2> instead of <h3> ** | |
| [20:46:00] | mchou: | nol, it's SOL |
| [20:46:00] | slePP: | the entire comment is just not very pretty |
| [20:46:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: why are RF remotes silly? |
| [20:47:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Well.. that's brutally honest.. but I do agree. |
| [20:47:00] | CygnusX1: | At the moment, I am using a cheap wireless keyboard. It is a bit bulky though. :-) |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: when you fing a remote that can learn RF let me know :) |
| [20:47:00] | ** slePP hasn't thought of how to lay it out better... ** | |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | find* |
| [20:47:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm leaving my mythtv backend downstairs and i'm going to connect it to the TV the floor above. i need an RF remote to be able to control the box on another floor |
| [20:48:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: well this is RF + IR learning remote- best of both worlds |
| [20:48:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Agreed... it's difficult because it's not your typical forum environment. |
| [20:48:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: right, which is why your neighbor might be able to do the same :) |
| [20:48:00] | slePP: | yeh |
| [20:48:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: which KB you using? |
| [20:49:00] | ** cyberknet uses a LiteOn airboard v1 ** | |
| [20:49:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: heh, don't they use different channels? |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | airboard is da bomb!! |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: not necessarily. there are only 10 or so channels. |
| [20:50:00] | cyberknet: | jasoncohen: I believe he is referring to the fact that if they hacked their remote some, they could just flip channels and send an "up" keystroke each time, thereby screwing with your TV experience. |
| [20:50:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, it is just a cheap junker. It is RF...and you almost have to point it at the receiver. lol. I want to have one more go at the PVR150 remote before I buy that kb you recommended |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: yeah, makes sense. Just hold on tight :) |
| [20:51:00] | jasoncohen: | cyberknet: perhaps, but it's not a big worry of mine |
| [20:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I cant seem to find my comcast bill nor can I find it in the phone book :/ any other ideas? |
| [20:52:00] | CygnusX1: | huh? |
| [20:52:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: huh?? |
| [20:52:00] | CygnusX1: | 800-COMCAST |
| [20:52:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: Check their web site |
| [20:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: yesterday what we were talking about with the local office :) |
| [20:52:00] | mchou: | or what CygnusX1 said :) |
| [20:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry kinda went way way off there |
| [20:54:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: the comments section would indicate that you are a very descriptive person. |
| [20:55:00] | slePP: | how so? |
| [20:55:00] | slePP: | the new post you just put up? :> |
| [20:55:00] | cyberknet: | me? |
| [20:55:00] | cyberknet: | I know nothing of it. |
| [20:55:00] | cyberknet: | but I do find it odd that you eat navel lint. |
| [20:55:00] | cyberknet: | :) |
| [20:56:00] | ** slePP replies to it :> ** | |
| [20:57:00] | rjune: | are there any tuners that will accept raw Dish network signal? as opposed to going through the dish reciever first? |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | rjune: lol |
| [20:57:00] | rjune: | ? |
| [20:57:00] | jasoncohen: | rjune: isn't the signal encrypted? |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | rjune: dvb |
| [20:58:00] | rjune: | dvb? |
| [20:58:00] | rjune: | jasoncohen: DUNNO |
| [20:58:00] | rjune: | gah |
| [20:58:00] | mchou: | rjune: fta |
| [20:59:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: viewing the main comment looks fine... it's only when you view a reply that it looks weird. |
| [21:00:00] | slePP: | yeah... |
| [21:01:00] | slePP: | how should i present it? |
| [21:01:00] | mchou: | heh, mandrake put out xbox distro :) |
| [21:01:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: no idea |
| [21:02:00] | slePP: | heh |
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| [21:02:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: I'd work for inline comments, I think. |
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| [21:03:00] | cyberknet: | even if it only showed the active comment, but showed the comment body inline with the current depth |
| [21:03:00] | jasoncohen: | i thought i heard a while back that the next version of mythtv would focus on the UI? is this true? |
| [21:03:00] | Dibblah: | Nope. It's going command line only. |
| [21:03:00] | jasoncohen: | mythtv really needs some more theme designers. visor was just dropped |
| [21:03:00] | CygnusX1: | jasoncohen, Yes...full neural link. |
| [21:03:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: doing so |
| [21:03:00] | jasoncohen: | full neural link? |
| [21:04:00] | CygnusX1: | I jest, sorry, I am off my rocker today. |
| [21:04:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, ok |
| [21:04:00] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [21:04:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: that remote is really up your craw, eh? |
| [21:05:00] | jasoncohen: | .18 changed the color coding of shows in the program listings machines (to use more than 2 colors) and now my visor theme doesn't highlight any |
| [21:05:00] | jasoncohen: | anyone know how i can fix this? |
| [21:05:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/comments.php?view=6 |
| [21:06:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, Indeed. |
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| [21:10:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: think i should include the inline comments on the main list as well? or keep to the 'subject' style list beneath each? |
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| [21:12:00] | slePP: | inline works pretty good |
| [21:13:00] | cyberknet: | hmmmm. |
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| [21:14:00] | cyberknet: | maybe just links to the top posts in the first page. |
| [21:14:00] | cyberknet: | then this style on the linked-to page. |
| [21:14:00] | cyberknet: | like, link to their subject, with a count of posts in that thread. |
| [21:14:00] | slePP: | so just a big list of subjects? |
| [21:14:00] | cyberknet: | Yeah. |
| [21:14:00] | cyberknet: | what do you think? |
| [21:14:00] | slePP: | without thread details |
| [21:15:00] | slePP: | other than total count and original post date, perhaps last post? |
| [21:15:00] | cyberknet: | sounds good to me. |
| [21:15:00] | cyberknet: | then the current style on the linked-to page. |
| [21:15:00] | cyberknet: | I think that would be great. |
| [21:16:00] | slePP: | that's nto a bad plan.. |
| [21:16:00] | ** slePP goes that route ** | |
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| [21:19:00] | cyberknet: | I see you are currently working on it =) |
| [21:21:00] | slePP: | yup :> |
| [21:21:00] | slePP: | live production development box ;> |
| [21:23:00] | slePP: | how's that look? |
| [21:25:00] | cyberknet: | the subject list looks good |
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| [21:25:00] | cyberknet: | the page linked to has pgsql errors all over it =) |
| [21:25:00] | cyberknet: | when you click on "Of twinkies and corn dogs" |
| [21:25:00] | LT4life: | i have been trying to rip dvds but i get the error that i cannot connect to the transcoder daemon...i ran mtd from the command line and i think the log file is in a bad location, has anyone had this problem? |
| [21:28:00] | ** slePP fixed that ** | |
| [21:31:00] | cyberknet: | I think that should work well |
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| [21:33:00] | shibz: | in mythtv-setup, it crashes every time I go to input devices |
| [21:33:00] | shibz: | Segmentation fault |
| [21:34:00] | slePP: | that's an amusing string of comments |
| [21:34:00] | cyberknet: | Isn't it? |
| [21:34:00] | slePP: | now.... i need to find a little 32x32 or 64x64 image for each of those 15 types of comments |
| [21:35:00] | cyberknet: | I think a parent should fully contain its children. |
| [21:35:00] | cyberknet: | =P" |
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| [21:35:00] | ** cyberknet claims the chewbacca defense ** | |
| [21:36:00] | slePP: | it should, yes :P |
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| [21:40:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: methinks a nontrivial amount of coding would be involved, and this looks good enough =) |
| [21:40:00] | slePP: | to contain all the children in the parent? |
| [21:42:00] | ** slePP threw in the most recent poster and date to the list ** | |
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| [21:44:00] | ** slePP fixes a 11 month old bug ** | |
| [21:45:00] | slePP: | funny that no one has ever noticed every single timestamp on the site is wrong in the minutes field |
| [21:45:00] | slePP: | so what do you mean by 'contain the children'? |
| [21:45:00] | shibz: | is myth tv normally very buggy? |
| [21:45:00] | slePP: | yes :> |
| [21:46:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: i.e. the child should be within the parent's bounding rectangle. |
| [21:46:00] | cyberknet: | above the lower purple bar though. |
| [21:46:00] | slePP: | above the 'comment on this'? |
| [21:46:00] | shibz: | argh it keeps crashing on me |
| [21:46:00] | slePP: | Message from Pauly at 02:46:32 pm |
| [21:46:00] | slePP: | maybe this is all code for something sexual |
| [21:46:00] | slePP: | Message from Pauly at 02:46:45 pm |
| [21:46:00] | slePP: | maybe he wants to stick his corn dog in your twinky |
| [21:46:00] | slePP: | hehehe |
| [21:47:00] | cyberknet: | THat would look kind of odd |
| [21:47:00] | cyberknet: | where is that? |
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| [21:49:00] | jasoncohen: | awesome, i fixed the font color issue in program listings |
| [21:49:00] | slePP: | he hasn't posted a response yet, i don't think |
| [21:49:00] | jasoncohen: | i used the programlist section from the Illius theme and then changed the record font to yellow and the recoridng to green. |
| [21:49:00] | GeckoFiend: | hrm anyone have a good guide to making sure all sound goes out the optical connection? |
| [21:50:00] | jasoncohen: | i guess i'll need to continue doing minor changes to the visor theme to make sure it continues to work |
| [21:50:00] | jasoncohen: | if anyone wants a working copy of visor i can send you one with my modified ui.xml. I also set it to use true type fonts and fixed the width of the tables |
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| [21:53:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: now it saves name/contact info |
| [21:53:00] | slePP: | and the settings of whether or not to display them |
| [22:00:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: maybe something like this? (didn't check it for validity, but you should get the idea): http://pastebin.ca/10854 |
| [22:00:00] | jasoncohen: | anyone know if an avermedia wintv 1500 mce is supported by mythtv? |
| [22:01:00] | slePP: | hmm |
| [22:01:00] | cyberknet: | I didn't check the HTML, or that I nested it properly |
| [22:02:00] | cyberknet: | and I didn't even check to see what it would look like =) |
| [22:02:00] | cyberknet: | I just had an idea in my head and thought "I wonder how that would look..." |
| [22:02:00] | slePP: | looks about what i had in mind |
| [22:02:00] | cyberknet: | but I think it would be a fair amount of work, so probably don't worry about it too much. |
| [22:02:00] | slePP: | i don't think it is.. it's just a bit of recursion.. :> |
| [22:03:00] | ** cyberknet hates unstructured HTML, but understands the necessity of succint delivery to the client ** | |
| [22:03:00] | slePP: | http://pastebin.ca/bob10854.html |
| [22:03:00] | cyberknet: | and by unstructured, I really mean non-whitespace formatted |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet is a silly boy anyways |
| [22:04:00] | cyberknet: | except the indent doesn't need to increment with each additional post |
| [22:04:00] | cyberknet: | it can remain constant |
| [22:04:00] | clintar: | shh |
| [22:05:00] | LT4life: | sorry people....i went on gossamer threads and I found a fix for the problem...so now i can rip dvds |
| [22:05:00] | slePP: | like that, then |
| [22:05:00] | cyberknet: | well you could have *some* indent, it just didn't need to be exponential like it was. |
| [22:05:00] | slePP: | it was only exponential by fluke :> |
| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | this much I know =) |
| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | It was only exponential because I just cut and pasted |
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| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | I would leave a bit more indent... just to make it a tad clearer. |
| [22:06:00] | slePP: | like so |
| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | Yes |
| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | I like that. |
| [22:07:00] | slePP: | now to do that in a linear form :> |
| [22:07:00] | cyberknet: | maybe a <br /> after the comment on this bar |
| [22:07:00] | cyberknet: | or some other form of adjustment |
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| [22:07:00] | cyberknet: | of course |
| [22:08:00] | cyberknet: | I'd probably double the amount of space. |
| [22:09:00] | slePP: | halfway there on the real page.. |
| [22:09:00] | slePP: | just have to close the div's now |
| [22:11:00] | jasoncohen: | so, what's the current status of the pvr-150 & pvr-500 cards? how hard is it to get them to work? |
| [22:11:00] | slePP: | there.. http://pastebin.ca/comments.php?view=6 |
| [22:11:00] | slePP: | there.. http://pastebin.ca/comments.php?view=3 |
| [22:11:00] | slePP: | not 6 :> |
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| [22:13:00] | slePP: | how's that, then? |
| [22:13:00] | cyberknet: | I think that will work very nicely. |
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| [22:13:00] | cyberknet: | Now, we come to the issue of my consultancy fee... *grin* |
| [22:14:00] | slePP: | should the background of the comments on the comments section be different? |
| [22:14:00] | slePP: | or the background of the comment body? |
| [22:14:00] | cyberknet: | I was thinking white in my original paste |
| [22:14:00] | cyberknet: | but... I dont know. |
| [22:14:00] | cyberknet: | This is a very odd thread to test with =) |
| [22:14:00] | slePP: | how about that? |
| [22:15:00] | cyberknet: | I think I like that. |
| [22:15:00] | cyberknet: | How do you like that? |
| [22:15:00] | slePP: | maybe i should put a <ul> at the top with all the posts for a "quick jump" |
| [22:15:00] | ** slePP finds it appealing ** | |
| [22:16:00] | cyberknet: | it might help |
| [22:16:00] | cyberknet: | once threads get long, that could end up helping a lot. |
| [22:16:00] | cyberknet: | if threads get long |
| [22:17:00] | slePP: | heh. we'll see |
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| [22:18:00] | jasoncohen: | who here is using a pvr-150 with myth? |
| [22:20:00] | CygnusX1: | I am |
| [22:20:00] | cyberknet: | not I, sorry. |
| [22:20:00] | cyberknet: | I am using an AVerMedia m179 |
| [22:20:00] | jasoncohen: | ck says the newest .3 release is "surprisingly stable". that's good to know |
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| [22:25:00] | CygnusX1: | I have had zero problems with 0.3.3k. Maybe I should try moving up and see if anything improves |
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| [22:30:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: the numbers look odd given that they aren't sequential. Perhaps you could use their id relative to the parent, and number the parent as 1? |
| [22:30:00] | cyberknet: | I mean, they are sequential, but the list base is not 1 |
| [22:31:00] | slePP: | yeh, those were to figure out a depth bug i had |
| [22:31:00] | slePP: | they're gone now |
| [22:31:00] | hadees: | holly crap, http://mythextra.napsi.net/ mythRecipe is back |
| [22:31:00] | hadees: | holy |
| [22:32:00] | cyberknet: | the bug may be back |
| [22:32:00] | slePP: | it's still there... |
| [22:33:00] | slePP: | it's not properly closing the </ul>'s |
| [22:33:00] | cyberknet: | Yeah. I noticed that. |
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| [22:34:00] | shibz: | does anyone know if the 0.18 package or the CVS for myth tv would be more stable? |
| [22:34:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: your comments are not nested properly. |
| [22:35:00] | slePP: | no? |
| [22:35:00] | slePP: | in the big list? |
| [22:35:00] | cyberknet: | the bottom two comments are children of the main post according the the ul diagram, whilst they are children of the "upon further examination" post in the big list |
| [22:35:00] | hadees: | any new 3rd party modules out there? |
| [22:36:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: and I personally posted teh CyberKnet one, and I know that it should be a parent to the topmost post... so I assume your little UL diagram is correct. |
| [22:36:00] | slePP: | a child to the topmost? |
| [22:36:00] | cyberknet: | Yes. |
| [22:36:00] | cyberknet: | the post by CyberKnet is linked to the first post |
| [22:36:00] | cyberknet: | I know that for a fact, I posted the post by CyberKnet |
| [22:37:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [22:37:00] | slePP: | they both had the same bug |
| [22:37:00] | slePP: | needed a while on depth changes downwards |
| [22:37:00] | cyberknet: | makes sense =) |
| [22:37:00] | cyberknet: | There. that looks great now. |
| [22:38:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Was it your site that was giving away dvds to people who submitted pastes? |
| [22:38:00] | cyberknet: | or was that pastebin.com? |
| [22:39:00] | slePP: | it won't print the list at the top with less than 3 posts |
| [22:39:00] | ** slePP gave away DVD's ** | |
| [22:39:00] | slePP: | pastebin.com doesn't do anything fun :> |
| [22:39:00] | cyberknet: | what was the deal with that? |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | not to me though. :( |
| [22:39:00] | ** Beirdo pokes slePP with a pointed stick ** | |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | rig the next draw already :) |
| [22:39:00] | slePP: | the pastebin.com guy is going nuts stealing my ideas now |
| [22:39:00] | slePP: | it's insane :> |
| [22:39:00] | ** slePP rigs the next one ;> ** | |
| [22:41:00] | slePP: | ok. very cool.... |
| [22:42:00] | ** slePP is pleased ** | |
| [22:42:00] | cyberknet: | he copied the diff idea? |
| [22:43:00] | slePP: | he copied the diff idea, feedback, using GeSHi, raw paste downloads |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | imitation is the sincerest form of flattery |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | or something |
| [22:43:00] | slePP: | that's what i get for not offering him enough cash for pastebin.com |
| [22:43:00] | slePP: | he goes on about his page rank of 6 in google |
| [22:43:00] | slePP: | he has a google pr of 5 |
| [22:43:00] | ** slePP has a pr of 4 ** | |
| [22:43:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [22:43:00] | slePP: | and we nearly have the same hit count/month |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | and he's Blitish |
| [22:45:00] | slePP: | yeh |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | I guess he doesn't want to sell out to a colonist |
| [22:45:00] | slePP: | either i com eup with the right price, or it is the very beginnings of the pastebin wars |
| [22:45:00] | ** slePP will dominate ! ** | |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [22:45:00] | cyberknet: | Comments page needs to be translated =) |
| [22:46:00] | slePP: | no kidding |
| [22:46:00] | cyberknet: | lots of things need to be translated =) |
| [22:46:00] | slePP: | only in german |
| [22:46:00] | slePP: | almost everything is translated into french |
| [22:46:00] | slePP: | except my newest stuff |
| [22:46:00] | slePP: | being comments, pretty much |
| [22:46:00] | slePP: | and one poll |
| [22:47:00] | cyberknet: | use google translate and get a hack-ish translation up =) |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | i did |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | his pastebin blows |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | and the guy e-mailed me.. 'i appreciate you trying to make it another language.. but i can't read a word of it, so here's a new translation' |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | pastebin.com? |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | or mine? :P |
| [22:47:00] | cyberknet: | Hey, I've carried entire conversations via google translate =) |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: it kept using 'post' as in fence post, in french |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | that wasn't very helpful :> |
| [22:47:00] | slePP: | poteaux |
| [22:47:00] | cyberknet: | hahah |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | 'Make a New Fence Post!' |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [22:48:00] | cyberknet: | hahahahha |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | http://pastebin.com/279282 |
| [22:48:00] | cyberknet: | "Message" |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | get a pastebin translated roughly back into 'Get a Glue Bin!' |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | nice |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | did you post that? :> |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | yes :) |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | hehehe |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [22:48:00] | slePP: | do you like my comment types? |
| [22:49:00] | slePP: | 'I'm an elite hacker!' is my favourite |
| [22:49:00] | slePP: | cuz i always get such stupid idiots posting comments on my other sites |
| [22:49:00] | ** slePP needs to associate an image to each of those comment types ** | |
| [22:50:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [22:50:00] | cyberknet: | Something about the pastebin.com interface looks cleaner. |
| [22:50:00] | cyberknet: | Not sure what. |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | http://pastebin.ca/10858 |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | yay |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | yours did it right |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | his fucked up the leading spaces on the first line |
| [22:51:00] | cyberknet: | so it did. |
| [22:51:00] | cyberknet: | very interesting. |
| [22:52:00] | slePP: | which is 100% amusing |
| [22:52:00] | kormoc: | it messed it up? |
| [22:52:00] | slePP: | since we're both using the same highlighting engine |
| [22:53:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: font size is smaller |
| [22:53:00] | slePP: | and there's way less stuff |
| [22:53:00] | slePP: | my left sidebar is pretty rough looking these days |
| [22:53:00] | slePP: | my favicon is way cooler ;> |
| [22:53:00] | cyberknet: | http://www.pastebin.com/279284 =)) |
| [22:53:00] | slePP: | the comments page miserably fails XHTML validation |
| [22:54:00] | cyberknet: | Posted by www.pastebin.ca |
| [22:54:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [22:54:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
| [22:54:00] | slePP: | dude! |
| [22:54:00] | slePP: | not cool :P |
| [22:54:00] | slePP: | i'm trying to _buy_ that domain |
| [22:54:00] | ** kormoc hands slePP the slapping trout. ** | |
| [22:54:00] | slePP: | maybe he won't notice.. :P |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | fuck the fucking fuckers. |
| [22:55:00] | beavis: | :O |
| [22:55:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: I'll leave a note to that effect then. |
| [22:55:00] | slePP: | heh |
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| [22:56:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: but for the next few posts, your site will be on his recent posts list =) |
| [22:56:00] | cyberknet: | free advertising. |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | hehe |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | did you know that i had to write my own diff parser for that diff crap? :P |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | it's actually about 1000 times easier than i expected |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | standard diff format is bloody straight forward |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | 1,17c4,5 |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | change lines 1–17 in source 1 with lines 4–5 of source 2 |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | very much fun |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | sure is |
| [22:56:00] | kormoc: | - bleh |
| [22:56:00] | kormoc: | + blah |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | < blah |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | > bleh |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:56:00] | slePP: | kormoc: unified diff is hard to parse |
| [22:57:00] | kormoc: | :) |
| [22:57:00] | slePP: | especially when you have both sources readily available :> |
| [22:57:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | OK, time for a break, then back to work |
| [22:57:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: lucky that you had the option to not use unified format =) |
| [22:57:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [22:58:00] | slePP: | diff -bB /tmp/1 /tmp/2 :> |
| [22:58:00] | slePP: | yet, i provide -ubB on the raw diff download :> |
| [22:58:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [22:58:00] | slePP: | what was that histogram you wanted? |
| [22:58:00] | slePP: | one for posts/hour |
| [22:58:00] | slePP: | and the other? |
| [22:59:00] | kormoc: | secret messages/lines of code |
| [22:59:00] | cyberknet: | they were count of expiration selected, and count of expiration selected broken down by hour, |
| [22:59:00] | wilco_: | anyone know how fast a VIA C3/800MHz compared to Intel/AMD? |
| [22:59:00] | cyberknet: | just because factoids are interesting. |
| [23:00:00] | slePP: | oh right |
| [23:00:00] | slePP: | count of expiration by hour? |
| [23:00:00] | slePP: | that's an odd one... |
| [23:00:00] | cyberknet: | Yeah. It's not very useful either =) |
| [23:00:00] | cyberknet: | forget about that one. |
| [23:00:00] | goodtod: | is the video always connected to the mythfrontend or can the mythbackend stream video to the mythfrontend? |
| [23:00:00] | slePP: | 1 hour is the most common expiry, btw |
| [23:00:00] | cyberknet: | interesting. |
| [23:01:00] | cyberknet: | I would have bet that most people leave it to expire never. |
| [23:01:00] | slePP: | followed by .5 hr, then 5 minutes |
| [23:01:00] | slePP: | oh! |
| [23:01:00] | slePP: | heh |
| [23:01:00] | slePP: | yeh. |
| [23:01:00] | slePP: | that's by far most common (over 20 times more common than 1 hour) |
| [23:01:00] | slePP: | but for getting average expiry times by range, one hour is most common |
| [23:01:00] | cyberknet: | Interesting. |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | why not have it default to 1 hour? |
| [23:02:00] | cyberknet: | And # pastes / day |
| [23:02:00] | slePP: | 2pm local time is the most popular time to post |
| [23:02:00] | ** cyberknet reinforces kormoc's question ** | |
| [23:03:00] | cyberknet: | Why not default to 1 hour since arguably, most people who leave it at never probably don't care. |
| [23:03:00] | slePP: | 29.6, all time record, i think |
| [23:03:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: because half the idea is to keep this stuff around for a long time |
| [23:03:00] | slePP: | for reference material |
| [23:03:00] | cyberknet: | 29.6 pastes on average I could understand, but as a record I do not understand =) |
| [23:03:00] | slePP: | i've found some useful tidbits in my own |
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| [23:03:00] | slePP: | all time record meaning since day 1 |
| [23:03:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Yes, but a record would be a whole number |
| [23:03:00] | slePP: | 49.2 in the last 6 months |
| [23:03:00] | cyberknet: | an average would be a partial. |
| [23:03:00] | slePP: | heh. shush |
| [23:04:00] | slePP: | 68.1 per day in the last month |
| [23:04:00] | cyberknet: | 68.1 per day last month as an average, but your 'record' is 29.6 in one day? |
| [23:04:00] | ParadigmS: | evening all |
| [23:04:00] | cyberknet: | see... I'm not buying your record =) |
| [23:04:00] | cyberknet: | evening ParadigmS |
| [23:05:00] | ParadigmS: | anyone running a remote backend? |
| [23:05:00] | slePP: | most popular day is, surprisingly, tuesday |
| [23:05:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: nono... i don't have a record :P |
| [23:05:00] | slePP: | ignore the record |
| [23:05:00] | slePP: | i meant not as in 'world record', but more 'recorded history' |
| [23:06:00] | ParadigmS: | nobody |
| [23:06:00] | ParadigmS: | ?? |
| [23:06:00] | ParadigmS: | :( |
| [23:06:00] | cyberknet: | ParadigmS: not I. |
| [23:06:00] | slePP: | my record day is march 22nd, 2005 |
| [23:06:00] | slePP: | at 110 posts |
| [23:06:00] | slePP: | followed by april 20th at 98 posts |
| [23:06:00] | cyberknet: | those I buy. |
| [23:06:00] | ParadigmS: | bummer |
| [23:07:00] | slePP: | now, cyberknet, consolidate the 20 SQL statements i just entered by hand into my statistics page as a pretty table |
| [23:07:00] | ParadigmS: | does anyone know if a remote backend needs its own local database? |
| [23:07:00] | slePP: | ParadigmS: it can't use it's own |
| [23:07:00] | slePP: | it has to use the master's |
| [23:07:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: That would also be a good addition =) |
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| [23:08:00] | slePP: | i'm thinking: Top 5 Posting Days, Average Posts / Day (All Time, Last 6 months, Last 3 Months, Last month, Last week), Average posts per day of the week |
| [23:08:00] | slePP: | average selected expiry time |
| [23:08:00] | slePP: | average posts by hour of the day |
| [23:09:00] | ParadigmS: | slePP: whenever mythbackend tries to start it complains that it can't connect to the local database by i have mythsetup setup for the remote database :( |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | ParadigmS: check the mysql.txt file it is using |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | average expiration time where an expiration time was entered |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | would also be handy |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | cyberknet: that's already there on the stats page |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | oh |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | expiration |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | Shortest Expiry: 5 mins |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | Average Expiry: 2 days 3 hours 25 mins 38.88 secs |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | Longest Expiry: 6 mons |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | I even read that too |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | d'oh |
| [23:09:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [23:10:00] | ** Beirdo is listening to Van Halen at work. ** | |
| [23:10:00] | ParadigmS: | slePP: the one in my home directory? |
| [23:10:00] | slePP: | yeh |
| [23:10:00] | slePP: | # it should be pointed out that this post is not affiliated with pastebin.ca, |
| [23:10:00] | slePP: | # just submitted a loyal user of said (superior) site. |
| [23:10:00] | slePP: | okay |
| [23:10:00] | slePP: | that's funny |
| [23:11:00] | cyberknet: | heh =) |
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| [23:20:00] | cyberknet: | slePP: Glad you found it amusing =) |
| [23:21:00] | cyberknet: | *yawn* |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Sunday: 1,267 posts (11.8%) |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Monday: 1,591 posts (14.8%) |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Tuesday: 1,689 posts (15.7%) |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Wednesday: 1,802 posts (16.7%) |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Thursday: 1,603 posts (14.9%) |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Friday: 1,610 posts (14.9%) |
| [23:23:00] | slePP: | Saturday: 1,216 posts (11.3%) |
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| [23:45:00] | LT4life: | does anyone use torrentacracy? |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully not :) |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:50:00] | LT4life: | i am thinking about installing it and just wanted to know what others thought about it |
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