| Thursday, April 28th, 2005, 00:03 UTC | ||
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | yesums |
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| [00:07:00] | adante: | thanks |
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| [00:14:00] | tyrese: | Can MythTV play internet radio? |
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| [00:17:00] | fatmatt: | tyrese don't think so, I haven't found anything.. you could maybe configure the mythbrowser plgin to play stuff but then you've got to deal with realplayer so that would be an issue |
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| [00:28:00] | emes: | is there a log of screduled recordings, i.e. if i scheduled one and it didnt get recorded, can i see what overrode it? |
| [00:29:00] | iggy: | with mythweb it's pretty easy to see how all that stuff interacts |
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| [00:31:00] | emes: | iggy: that's before the recordings |
| [00:31:00] | emes: | i want to see what happened after the recording should have happened |
| [00:32:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Sorry, was working on something else. |
| [00:32:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Cool. |
| [00:33:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Glad to help. |
| [00:35:00] | iggy: | emes: hmmm, I got nothing |
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| [00:39:00] | tyrese: | can mplayer play an internet stream? |
| [00:40:00] | rpete: | yes |
| [00:41:00] | tyrese: | rpete, was that yes to me? |
| [00:41:00] | rpete: | yes |
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| [00:41:00] | tyrese: | How would I then get mythTV to play a particular internet stream? |
| [00:42:00] | rpete: | I don't know |
| [00:46:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Do you need more shows? |
| [00:46:00] | lucas333: | if your cablemodem did not burn to death yet :), I'd love some more. |
| [00:46:00] | lucas333: | if possible from different channels if you have them. |
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| [00:48:00] | tyrese: | when i insert an audio CD – mythTV won't play it... how do i get around this? |
| [00:49:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: OK, I'll set them up. Yeah, it burns a bit (now I see why I need a Qos-capable router), but if it helps... |
| [00:49:00] | NightMonkey: | DSL-modem, I should say. |
| [00:50:00] | lucas333: | it would help a lot, I've put out a few requests for shows, but so far you're the only one biting. |
| [00:50:00] | lucas333: | <did everyone hear that? :) > |
| [00:50:00] | NightMonkey: | heh |
| [00:50:00] | NightMonkey: | Well, I guess I'll have perfect commercial detection, and they won't ;) . |
| [00:50:00] | ** kormoc sends lucas333 his fav show, /dev/urandom, so full of twists and turns that you'll never know what happens next ** | |
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| [00:51:00] | tyrese: | kormoc, send me a copy too! lol |
| [00:52:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Does bitrate variety matter to you? My "low quality" is at 1.2 GB/hour, while my high is btwn 3–5 GB/Hour. |
| [00:52:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [00:53:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: And those shows you have are all 1.2 GB/hour. |
| [00:53:00] | lucas333: | well, 3–5 gb is a bit much, but in general I like "one of each" so I can make sure the commflagging works on a broad range of shows / aspects/ bitrates etc |
| [00:54:00] | lucas333: | lets hold off on the 5gb shows untill I get myself a new hd here ;p |
| [00:54:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: No problem. |
| [00:54:00] | iggy: | I think lucas333 is just trying to get free shows |
| [00:54:00] | NightMonkey: | iggy: I hope not. These are for engineering use only. |
| [00:54:00] | NightMonkey: | iggy: ;) |
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| [00:56:00] | lucas333: | iggy: Yeah that history channel never starts to bore me. |
| [00:56:00] | NightMonkey: | I hope I put enough disclaimers and exhortations in my e-mails and such... |
| [00:56:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Should I send you some Howard Stern? |
| [00:57:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: I guess that would be some variety, eh? |
| [00:57:00] | lucas333: | I wouldn't know... have no clue who howard stern is :) |
| [00:57:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Lucky man, you are. |
| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | there's worst people I'd like to forget long before stern... |
| [00:59:00] | iggy: | like all the people that try so hard to shut him up |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | yeah, just let him spew his shit, get on with your lives people, he's not worth the fight... |
| [01:00:00] | NightMonkey: | iggy, kormoc: For sure, I agree. |
| [01:01:00] | ** kormoc wonders if he'll get music during the mornings when stern moves to satalite radio ** | |
| [01:01:00] | NightMonkey: | Just that my girlfriend is way into his show, so I get a bit too much exposure... |
| [01:01:00] | kormoc: | just hope she doesn't start exposing herself to him... |
| [01:01:00] | NightMonkey: | I mean, how funny can it be to hear 2 years of "baba booey" over and over again. |
| [01:02:00] | iggy: | if you've seen the movie, you've seen pretty much his entire repertoire(sp?) |
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| [01:03:00] | lucas333: | I can't wait :) |
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| [01:03:00] | NightMonkey: | hah! |
| [01:03:00] | Ripp: | anyone have 100% cpu util. problems w/ .18? |
| [01:04:00] | NightMonkey: | Ripp: No, not here, but I have noticed on my Cacti graphs that the CPU usage does climb with every new official release. |
| [01:04:00] | emes: | anyone have a 0.18 package for os X, i'm trying to build one myself, but it'd save time if someone did |
| [01:04:00] | NightMonkey: | Ripp: (average CPU usage, that is) |
| [01:04:00] | Ripp: | hm, my backend is pegged out at 100% whenever recording, used to be ~30% or so per tuner |
| [01:05:00] | Ripp: | w/ < .17 that is |
| [01:08:00] | rpete: | is it a pvr? |
| [01:08:00] | Ripp: | no, plain old bt cards |
| [01:08:00] | rpete: | no changes to encoding settings? |
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| [01:09:00] | Ripp: | nope, happened when updated to .18, re-checked settings |
| [01:09:00] | Ripp: | I will have to re-emerge later maybe, maybe something wierd(tm) happened |
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| [01:12:00] | Agrajag-: | NightMonkey: what is your average CPU with mythbackend running? |
| [01:16:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: OK, new stuff up, same place as last. |
| [01:17:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Watch out for the sctv ones. Thats a parody show, and has parodies of commercials! |
| [01:17:00] | NightMonkey: | Agrajag-: One moment. |
| [01:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Agrajag-: CPU from mythbackend is minimal. Average load (without comflag) is around .3. |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i get that too |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | i thought that is a little high for being idle |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | not sure exactly what it's doing (just querying database?) |
| [01:20:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Still there? |
| [01:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Agrajag-: Yeah, and also the kernel (on my box) does have to do some work just to get the bits off the PCI bus, disk, and such. |
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| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. when i stop mythbackend on this box loads go to 0. so from 0-.3 seems a bit of a jump just for idling. oh well |
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| [01:24:00] | tyrese: | Is it possible to play audio CD's? |
| [01:24:00] | CygnusX1: | In a pinch, you could also use DVB-S2 adapative coding and modulation, in coordination with reducing the encoding rates on the MPEG-4 encoding for each program in a spot beam, but that would be painful to implement...although the Terayon Cherrypicker can rate reduce an MPEG-2 program in the compressed domain, maybe someone can figure out how to do that with MPEG-4 as well. |
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| [01:26:00] | Agrajag-: | tyrese: yeah, mythmusic |
| [01:27:00] | tyrese: | Agrajag-, I'm in the music part, playing my MP3's but when I try to select the CD .. is just doesn't play |
| [01:27:00] | tyrese: | It doesn't even access the CD |
| [01:27:00] | CygnusX1: | Say, on that note, are there any TV cards out, or close to being available which do hardware MPEG4 encoding? |
| [01:28:00] | Agrajag-: | tyrese: have you set the cd device correctly in music setup? |
| [01:28:00] | tyrese: | Agrajag-, I think so, yes |
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| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | well.. check to make sure.. and try some other cd player |
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| [01:32:00] | mchou: | anyone have the HD3k or air2pc here? |
| [01:33:00] | ** j3_ has both ** | |
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| [01:33:00] | j3_: | and an HD2k |
| [01:33:00] | j3_: | and a DCT-6200 |
| [01:33:00] | mchou: | hiya j3_ :) |
| [01:33:00] | j3_: | howdy |
| [01:33:00] | j3_: | can't stay long, supposed to be getting a call in a few... |
| [01:34:00] | mchou: | ok, j3_, yup,..... here's the question.... |
| [01:34:00] | NightMonkey: | CygnusX1: Wow, do you work for Echostar? Wish I knew what you were saying about MPEG4 ;). |
| [01:34:00] | ** j3_ wonders how things are going with mchou's m179 and pvr-150... ** | |
| [01:34:00] | mchou: | j3_: lol, had to give up on that for a lil while :) |
| [01:34:00] | j3_: | heh |
| [01:34:00] | CygnusX1: | NightMonkey, ROFL. I ripped that off from a post on /. It was so impressive I had to repeat it. :-) |
| [01:34:00] | j3_: | I should dig my m179s back out |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | j3: dueling tuners.... :) |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | j3_: what ivtv you using with 150? |
| [01:35:00] | j3_: | I've already got too many cards to play with tho... |
| [01:35:00] | NightMonkey: | CyberKnet: Hah! I got served. |
| [01:35:00] | j3_: | 0.3.3.... uh... g? I think... |
| [01:35:00] | j3_: | no, n |
| [01:35:00] | CygnusX1: | IS anyone using a Plextor PX-TV402U with Myth yet? |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | j3_: hmm, OK..... |
| [01:36:00] | NightMonkey: | CygnusX1: Hah! I got serverd. |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | ISTR upgrading to n |
| [01:36:00] | NightMonkey: | CyberKnet: (sorry, not for you) |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | no, wait, you were trying n and it didn't work |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | I must be back on g |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | j3_: whats your tuner type on 150, 47? |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | yup |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | its an mce model too, btw |
| [01:36:00] | CygnusX1: | :-) |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | tuner 50 seems to have some real issues in ivtv :) |
| [01:37:00] | mchou: | j3_: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW junk. |
| [01:37:00] | j3_: | there were some bad defs for that tuner for a little while... |
| [01:37:00] | j3_: | though I don't think that should have any bearing on those messages |
| [01:37:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, I am using tuner 50 (autodetected) with 0.3.3k without issue. Great video and sound |
| [01:37:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: what kernel? |
| [01:37:00] | CygnusX1: | 2.6.11.7 I think |
| [01:38:00] | CygnusX1: | yes, 2.6.11.7 |
| [01:38:00] | j3_: | mchou: so what about the HD cards? |
| [01:38:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: heh, maybe stuff been fixed in that kernel..... |
| [01:39:00] | CygnusX1: | I was getting that ENC error before k. Also, I hardly have anything added to my config files. It is autodetecting it all. |
| [01:39:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, Did you load the firmware for the card? |
| [01:39:00] | mchou: | j3_: I have a ge4200 (dont think that has mpeg or even XvMC), how much improvement or reduction in CPU usage am I likely to see if I upgrade to Ge5700? |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: sure did. What fw ver you using? |
| [01:40:00] | j3_: | the 4 series outside of the mx does half XvMC, but does just fine on Xv decode |
| [01:40:00] | j3_: | You shouldn't see any difference between a 4200 and a 5700 for Xv |
| [01:40:00] | CygnusX1: | pvr150_22_22292.exe |
| [01:40:00] | j3_: | Not sure if the 4200 would work with Myth's XvMC implementation |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | j3_: the mpeg part though (for HDTV) |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | j3_: it doesnt :) |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | j3_: not w/o bugs anyway :) |
| [01:41:00] | j3_: | okay, yeah, you'd likely see a decent drop in cpu usage using XvMC on the 5700 |
| [01:41:00] | j3_: | I have yet to see XvMC stable on any system, but I haven't tried any of DTK's Xv/XvMC merge stuff in CVS yet |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | j3_: ok, so is $80 a good deal on 5700? :) |
| [01:42:00] | j3_: | I think so... |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | 5700LE...... |
| [01:42:00] | j3_: | been a while since I've looked |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | 500MHz memory bandwidth..... |
| [01:42:00] | j3_: | Though a 5200 would work just as well (got my fanless 5200 for like $40) |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | instead of 400.... |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | hard to find 5200 :) |
| [01:43:00] | j3_: | for the most part, there's gonna be little or no difference between a GF4MX and a GeForce 6800 Ultra, when it comes to HDTV playback. |
| [01:43:00] | CygnusX1: | IS the Xv worth using? |
| [01:43:00] | j3_: | Hell yeah. |
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| [01:44:00] | j3_: | Xv looks better and is more stable. |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | hmm, maybe I should get GF4MX on the cheap. |
| [01:44:00] | j3_: | (Xv is what Myth uses by default) |
| [01:44:00] | CygnusX1: | Oh...xvmc is a higher level of that? |
| [01:44:00] | j3_: | X-video Motion Compensation |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | yeah, does a bit more offloading of mpeg2 decode to the gpu |
| [01:45:00] | CygnusX1: | Ok, roger that |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: can you do me a big favor? What's md5sum of firmware? |
| [01:47:00] | j3_: | gotta run... |
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| [01:48:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, do you want the md5sum for that exe I just showed you? |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | hmm, maybe Iought to upgrade the darn firmware..... |
| [01:48:00] | CygnusX1: | 78c8637d171a4660c015a4c4671498da pvr150_22_22292.exe |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | the firmware *.bin if possible..... |
| [01:49:00] | CygnusX1: | hang on...do you know what it is called and where it is extracted too? I was tired when I set this up. |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | should be in/libs/modules/ivtv*.bin |
| [01:50:00] | CygnusX1: | I know I had a hell of a time getting it out. The perl script didn't want to do its duty. |
| [01:50:00] | CygnusX1: | decode or encode? |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | encode. |
| [01:50:00] | CygnusX1: | d85cb08382395390dc95ac6ebc2205f9 ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | ah, nice. Much obliged. |
| [01:51:00] | CygnusX1: | ;-) |
| [01:51:00] | emes: | anyone have a 0.18 package for os X, i'm trying to build one myself, but it'd save time if someone did |
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| [01:52:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: hmm, I suppose I go extract it..... |
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| [01:54:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, do you have the same version on you CD? |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: lol, never busted open the CD :) |
| [01:54:00] | CygnusX1: | Scratch CD....I think I downloaded that from somewhere. |
| [01:55:00] | CygnusX1: | Oh, yep...that is from Hauppage site. |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=Fi . . . ght=firmware |
| [01:56:00] | CygnusX1: | hmmm....that checksum isn't there. |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | ah, I'm using 1 rev earlier..... |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | yes it is. last 3 lines. |
| [01:57:00] | CygnusX1: | doh!! heh heh. I was looking at the exe md5. sorry. |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: you're forgiven :) |
| [01:58:00] | CygnusX1: | :-) |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | yeah, this ought to work nicely..... |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: you have no problems watching livetv off 150? |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | (in myth) |
| [02:00:00] | CygnusX1: | Nope. |
| [02:00:00] | CygnusX1: | What problems are you having? |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | real nasty stuff (w/older fw though) |
| [02:01:00] | CygnusX1: | I had a ton of trouble when I first started about three weeks ago...tried using knoppmyth...bad, bad, bad (and I am not blaming km...it is a great piece of work) |
| [02:01:00] | CygnusX1: | THen, I installed Slackware 10.1, k2.6.11.7, ivtv 0.3.3k, and that firmware and BAM. It was beuatiful. |
| [02:02:00] | CygnusX1: | Myth 0.18 btw |
| [02:03:00] | CygnusX1: | I seemed to be able to get either good video (though never as good as now) or good audio but not both before. |
| [02:03:00] | CygnusX1: | And AV sync was bad. |
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| [02:03:00] | mchou: | yeah, my tuner was on the warpath :) |
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| [02:04:00] | dunc__: | anybody know how to change the language a DVD is playing? |
| [02:06:00] | dunc__: | anybody know how to change the language a DVD is playing? |
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| [02:09:00] | rpete: | hit the esp button on your remote |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | crap, now I got to give this a shot..... |
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| [02:09:00] | mchou: | bbl. |
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| [02:33:00] | emes: | i just upgraded from 0.16 to 0.18, and the sound isnt working anymore, this is on kde so the sound device is ARTS:, ALSA: won't work, any ideas? |
| [02:34:00] | jams: | Cromz, you wanted something? |
| [02:34:00] | Cromz: | hmm ya a day or two ago.. |
| [02:34:00] | Cromz: | lol :) |
| [02:34:00] | adante: | if i upgrade from .16 to .18 are there any major changes I should be making to config? my tv basically stopped working |
| [02:34:00] | jams: | yeah ive been away for a bit |
| [02:34:00] | Cromz: | I found something that kind is like what I was looking for :) |
| [02:34:00] | Cromz: | lemme find it again. |
| [02:35:00] | jams: | adante, define "stopped working" |
| [02:35:00] | jams: | there shouldn't be any changes that you would need to make |
| [02:35:00] | adante: | jams: i try to go to watch tv, just get 2005-04–28 11:31:36.872 Waited too long for decoder to pause |
| [02:36:00] | jams: | eh you might try running the setup program drop your cards and reenter them |
| [02:36:00] | jams: | there was a change to how cards were defined between .16 and .18 |
| [02:40:00] | Cromz: | jams: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mythwebremote this would work.. but I need to get kdbe running I really havn't spend the time to do it. it's the php remote like I was talking about with jgoo. |
| [02:43:00] | adante: | righto, i'll try that |
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| [02:46:00] | jams: | you need kde for that? |
| [02:46:00] | Cromz: | no kbde it's a keyboard input app :/ |
| [02:47:00] | jams: | heh thought it was a typo |
| [02:47:00] | jemarcks: | hey cromz |
| [02:47:00] | Cromz: | jams: http://kbde.sourceforge.net/kbde/main.html |
| [02:47:00] | Cromz: | sup jemarcks :) |
| [02:48:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i got the remote to work.. its nice |
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| [02:49:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i still have problems with live tv and audio |
| [02:49:00] | Cromz: | I love the remote :) but I'm looking at using my PDA via a php web based to change channels and stuff lol |
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| [02:50:00] | wsy: | I'm having a problem with getting MythTV running; it's barfing on mysql. |
| [02:50:00] | jemarcks: | lol... egads |
| [02:50:00] | wsy: | Apparently mysql is not allowing the user 'mythtv' to access the database. |
| [02:50:00] | jemarcks: | i still dont get any audio with svideo0 |
| [02:50:00] | jemarcks: | grrrrrr |
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| [02:50:00] | wsy: | this is a fresh install of Gentoo, mysql, and mythtv |
| [02:50:00] | jams: | wsy that's covered in the docs |
| [02:51:00] | wsy: | jams: OK, didn't see it; I'll look again. In the MythTV docs? |
| [02:51:00] | jams: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [02:51:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, have you seen xris? |
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| [02:52:00] | adante: | no luck there |
| [02:52:00] | Cromz: | not in person.. |
| [02:52:00] | Cromz: | but I've seen xris typing today ;) |
| [02:53:00] | jemarcks: | Has anybody got a pvr150 to work with svideo in and have audio using ivtv 0.3.3k? |
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| [02:53:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont see how mythwebremote "eliminates the need to use LIRC." |
| [02:53:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, tell xris his mmg program kicks A??! |
| [02:54:00] | Cromz: | hmm ok |
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| [02:55:00] | Cromz: | Agrajag-: it's a web based remote that'll work with pda's there is another one that jams showed me but the java script won't run on a pda. |
| [02:55:00] | Agrajag-: | ah, for pda, ok, that makes sense then |
| [02:55:00] | Cromz: | lirc or ir.. is close range. where this mythwebremote is range based on your wireless network |
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| [02:55:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i tried mplayer /dev/video0 with svideo in on a 150 and i get a great picture but no sound. ideas? |
| [02:56:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, a/v cables from DTV receiver are all hooked up too |
| [02:56:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: the way your setting up myth is differant to mine. but your problem is in the mixer.. |
| [02:56:00] | Cromz: | not sure the settings you need.. |
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| [02:56:00] | jemarcks: | cromz. hmmm... |
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| [02:57:00] | Cromz: | the ati tv wonder ve I had used line in. I had to go in a futz with the mixer to get it to do the audio.. |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | cromz alasamixer is cool, lots of knobs. ill play with it. |
| [02:57:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [02:57:00] | emergetw: | Could someone please help me with some xissues? I have a PVR-350 card and am trying to get the tv out working |
| [02:57:00] | Cromz: | set line-in to recond and not muted.. |
| [02:58:00] | jemarcks: | the audio from the dtv receiver is going to line in on the motherboard audio |
| [02:58:00] | emergetw: | when X tries to start I get: open /dev/fb1: No such device |
| [02:58:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, ah.. .ill check on that |
| [02:58:00] | emergetw: | No devices detected |
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| [02:59:00] | rjune: | I'm hoping somebody can shed some light on this. I'm following the HOWTO on an fc2 machine using the atrpms packages, I run mythtv-setup, configure everything, then I run mythbackend, and it complains that there isn't anything set for a server IP address |
| [02:59:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, alsamixer capture on for linein? |
| [02:59:00] | Agrajag-: | err.. run mythtv-setup again and make sure you set a server ip address. |
| [03:00:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: ya |
| [03:00:00] | rjune: | Agrajag-: I have, multiple times. |
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| [03:00:00] | rjune: | is that set in the db? or is it set in a config file? |
| [03:01:00] | wsy: | jams: ahhh.... thanks muchly |
| [03:01:00] | Agrajag-: | rjune: db |
| [03:01:00] | Agrajag-: | do this |
| [03:01:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, capture is at 100% but 'Line' is at 0. |
| [03:01:00] | Agrajag-: | echo "SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value = 'BackendServerIP'" | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [03:01:00] | Agrajag-: | where you put in your proper username/password for mysql.. |
| [03:01:00] | rjune: | Agrajag-: right, give a sec. |
| [03:02:00] | EmergeTW: | please help me someone, all I have to access the internet is lynx at the moment and it is really hard to search the forums and wiki like this |
| [03:02:00] | EmergeTW: | s/internet/web |
| [03:02:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: oh wait.. I thought you ment capture as in capture / record on line.. hehe .. you want line to be your recording device and turned up |
| [03:02:00] | Agrajag-: | EmergeTW: use elinks :) |
| [03:03:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i unmuted 'line' and will check it |
| [03:03:00] | jams: | wsy, sure |
| [03:03:00] | EmergeTW: | actually, sweet I got it working |
| [03:03:00] | rjune: | Agrajag-: no results |
| [03:03:00] | EmergeTW: | well, I got X working |
| [03:03:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: the problem I had was the sound was always there.. and I didnt' want that. lol so I bought a pvr350 ;) mainly for that reason lol |
| [03:03:00] | Agrajag-: | rjune: then you've done something wrong with mythtv-setup |
| [03:04:00] | Agrajag-: | rjune: make sure the db settings are correct and everything |
| [03:04:00] | rjune: | :-/ it's not a difficult program |
| [03:04:00] | rjune: | defaults should be ok. |
| [03:04:00] | rjune: | unless mythtv-setup wants to connect tcp instead of socket |
| [03:04:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, that DID IT |
| [03:04:00] | jemarcks: | At last, i have svideo and audio on a 150 working! |
| [03:05:00] | Cromz: | rjune: I had to put in the ip of the machine it's on to make mine work. :/ it didn't like 127.0.0.1 or it's name. I had to use the static ip I assigned it. |
| [03:05:00] | EmergeTW: | however, now the "Pre-scaling theme images" froze at 18% |
| [03:05:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: cool :) |
| [03:05:00] | EmergeTW: | any ideas? |
| [03:05:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, gona go play now. hehe |
| [03:05:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [03:05:00] | rjune: | Cromz: uck. that'l be a pain |
| [03:06:00] | Cromz: | rjune: you might try 127.0.0.1 see if that'll work for you. but my mysql is messed and I'm not learned up on mysql yet. :/ |
| [03:07:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:07:00] | Cromz: | I'm lazy.. if I can make it work this way or that way.. don't fix the right way till I have to |
| [03:07:00] | Cromz: | it only bites me once and a while. lol |
| [03:09:00] | EmergeTW: | scweet |
| [03:09:00] | EmergeTW: | I restarted gdm *again* and it works |
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| [03:10:00] | adante: | slightly OT: how do i get mplayer to play dvb streams? trying mplayer dvb://abc but it tells me the url doesn't have a hostname part |
| [03:10:00] | rjune: | Hmm. mythtv: could not connect to socket, that sounds like it can't connect to mysql |
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| [03:13:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, the audio is out of sync wiht the video |
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| [03:14:00] | Cromz: | ah yeah.. there is one you have to mute.. hmmm hmm wished I wrote it down.. :/ |
| [03:15:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: try muting capture and 'line-in as surround' see if it'll sync |
| [03:16:00] | Cromz: | I think it was one of those.. but it's been too many problems ago to remember.. and I'm getting way to old.. heh |
| [03:17:00] | kormoc: | anyone here use a sound blaster live card? |
| [03:17:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i need capture line unmuted to sync it up. what about pcm? |
| [03:17:00] | rjune: | kormoc: I do |
| [03:17:00] | kormoc: | rjune, does it support hardware mixing? |
| [03:18:00] | rjune: | kormoc: Uhm. I think so |
| [03:18:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: I dunno.. try it heh |
| [03:18:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, ill play with the knobs heh |
| [03:18:00] | kormoc: | rjune, I want to get rid of my alsa software mixing and rate changing for my ac97, and I was hoping the sblive would be able to do that :) |
| [03:19:00] | rjune: | ok, so mythtv-setup can't connect to the db, how do I check the simple stuff mythtv-setup is using, user/pass? |
| [03:19:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: the only knobs I play with are on my wi.. er... wait.. that's tmi.. never mind.. lol |
| [03:19:00] | kormoc: | rjune, what distro? |
| [03:19:00] | rjune: | kormoc: I believe it will |
| [03:19:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [03:19:00] | rjune: | kormoc: fedora |
| [03:19:00] | ** kormoc cheers for hardware mixing ** | |
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| [03:24:00] | rjune: | w00t it's magicly working now |
| [03:24:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:24:00] | adante: | is there any specific info i can get from a frontend error like: 2005-04–28 12:23:03.494 taking too long to be allowed to read.. — or is that just uber generic? |
| [03:24:00] | Cromz: | it's not magic.. it's a myth. |
| [03:24:00] | rjune: | Cromz: it's mythicly working? |
| [03:24:00] | rjune: | that'll do to |
| [03:25:00] | Cromz: | rjune: lol |
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| [03:27:00] | jemarcks: | the volume control on the remote doesnt change the volume |
| [03:30:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: you check the two lirc files to make sure they are the same? volume+ or Vol+ |
| [03:31:00] | Cromz: | the names must be the same. |
| [03:31:00] | jemarcks: | ill check |
| [03:33:00] | jemarcks: | .mythtv/lircrc /etc/lircrc? |
| [03:33:00] | Cromz: | ya |
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| [03:33:00] | jemarcks: | why are there two? |
| [03:33:00] | Cromz: | on mine one was 'Volume+' and the other was 'Vol+' |
| [03:34:00] | Cromz: | hmm one is for the deamon ie.. input.. the other is for output to myth. ( course I'm making a edumacated guess ) |
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| [03:35:00] | jemarcks: | hmm... /etc/lircd has Volume-UP 0x0000000000001F90 |
| [03:35:00] | jemarcks: | Volume-DOWN 0x0000000000001791 |
| [03:35:00] | Cromz: | of course that's not true either.. cause I got 2 deamons running.. lol |
| [03:35:00] | jemarcks: | .mythtv/lircrc has button = Volume-UP button = Volume-DOWN |
| [03:35:00] | jemarcks: | different files |
| [03:36:00] | jemarcks: | one is to map the codes the remote sends. the other is to map buttons to funciton |
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| [03:37:00] | Cromz: | wahts the config = line on the .mythtv/lircrc one? |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | config = F11 |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | # Scroll up |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | begin |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | prog = mythtv |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | button = Volume-UP |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | repeat = 3 |
| [03:37:00] | jemarcks: | config = F11 |
| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | end |
| [03:38:00] | Cromz: | ok.. so if you press f11 and f10 on the keyboard of your myth does it turn the volume up and down? |
| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | havent tried yet |
| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | it should |
| [03:38:00] | Cromz: | lol go try :P |
| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | brb |
| [03:38:00] | Cromz: | I dunno.. it might not. |
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| [03:38:00] | Cromz: | haha |
| [03:39:00] | emergetw is now known as EmergeTW | |
| [03:40:00] | EmergeTW: | My tuner seems to be stuck on one channel (74) no matter what I try to change it to |
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| [03:40:00] | EmergeTW: | the channel on the info changes correctly ( channel name and info in the bottom ) but what is actually being show is still the same channel |
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| [03:41:00] | mechtn: | well i went to memphis today and went by compusa |
| [03:41:00] | mechtn: | taking my 6600 gt back cause i got a 6200 gt for 100$ cheaper |
| [03:41:00] | mechtn: | and i ended up finding a pvr-150 |
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| [03:41:00] | mechtn: | they had the pvr-usb2 but were out of the pvr-250 and others |
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| [03:52:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [03:53:00] | Cromz: | Xris hmm hmmm |
| [03:53:00] | xris: | yo |
| [03:53:00] | xris: | (and it's not capitalized — that just looks weird) |
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| [03:53:00] | Cromz: | heh sorry.. |
| [03:54:00] | Cromz: | I forgot who said it. my age and all said you got a kick A.. app with mmg |
| [03:54:00] | EmergeTW: | xris: care to take a stab at a problem really quick? I think it is something simple, it happend to me last install, but I fixed it, and but I cant seem to get it this time |
| [03:54:00] | EmergeTW: | My tuner seems to be stuck on one channel (74) no matter what I try to change it too |
| [03:54:00] | EmergeTW: | the channel on the info changes correctly ( channel name and info in the bottom ) but what is actually being show is still the same channel |
| [03:54:00] | Cromz: | I tried to scroll back to see.. but it's long gone due to netsplits.. |
| [03:56:00] | xris: | EmergeTW: bloody nose. in a bit. |
| [03:56:00] | EmergeTW: | xris: oh man, sure thing |
| [03:56:00] | ** xris sips his cold, refreshing Cricket Cola ** | |
| [03:56:00] | mechtn: | grr doing a data import and its poor programming.. freezing my computer up |
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| [04:05:00] | emes: | anyone else having problems with 0.18 and audio? |
| [04:06:00] | EmergeTW: | emes: pvr250 card by any chance? |
| [04:06:00] | emes: | EmergeTW: yep |
| [04:06:00] | EmergeTW: | emes: I know someone else who is getting no audio with a pvr250 |
| [04:07:00] | EmergeTW: | emes: but he hasnt gotten it fixed yet |
| [04:07:00] | emes: | EmergeTW: just not recording audio, or problems with the client? |
| [04:08:00] | EmergeTW: | emes: he is in #knoppmyth if you want to see what he has tried |
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| [04:09:00] | emes: | name? |
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| [04:13:00] | adante: | em, ask a silly question but where do i go to set tuning parameters for channels? |
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| [04:18:00] | rjune: | wow, Uhm, what's the minimum processor required by mythtv? |
| [04:20:00] | rjune: | I've got a P3 533 that will watch tv just fine, but when I run it through mythtv, it can't do crap |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | what tvcard? :P |
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| [04:25:00] | emes: | anyone on 0.18 on os X here? |
| [04:33:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: well? did the keys work? :> |
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| [04:36:00] | CygnusX1: | rjune, myth records livetv and you watch it a couple of seconds behind "live" this allows pausing and rewinding "live" tv |
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| [04:36:00] | rjune: | aka, it destroys a proc |
| [04:38:00] | emes: | is it possible to downgrade from 0.18 to 0.17 without completely messing up the database? |
| [04:38:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, just got back.. im testing mixer now... |
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| [04:39:00] | rjune: | ok, so then am I supposed to run the audio out on the tuner card to the input on the sound card? |
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| [04:42:00] | jemarcks: | hey xris |
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| [04:43:00] | xris: | heya |
| [04:43:00] | jemarcks: | xris, mmg is super haha |
| [04:44:00] | jemarcks: | xris could be a good news/weather grabber too |
| [04:44:00] | xris: | jemarcks: yeah. can grab lots of things with it. |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | I used to write web spiders for a living. I cheated with mmg, though — use wget instead of perl's built-in stuff. |
| [04:45:00] | jemarcks: | AUDIO question yall..... i have a 150 that is hooked up to svideo0. great picture but the audio is out of sync. i cant get the mixer to fix it |
| [04:45:00] | jemarcks: | any advice? |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | jemarcks: that's odd. doesn't the card itself do the encoding? (my 150 works great) |
| [04:46:00] | jemarcks: | xris, how do you input the signals? |
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| [04:46:00] | xris: | svideo and rca plugs |
| [04:46:00] | jemarcks: | xris, i have a DTV receiver and have xvideo to my mythbox |
| [04:46:00] | jemarcks: | hmmmm |
| [04:47:00] | jemarcks: | to line in on mother board? |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | jemarcks: no |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | to the 150 |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | (it's MCE — has RCA audio input) |
| [04:47:00] | jemarcks: | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [04:47:00] | jemarcks: | DUH |
| [04:47:00] | jemarcks: | leme fix that lol |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | lol, you were going into the mobo? |
| [04:48:00] | jemarcks: | xris, yeah.. dumass me |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | heh |
| [04:48:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. its in the 150 now.. but no sound. what do i change? |
| [04:49:00] | jemarcks: | xris, do i change someing in alsamixer? |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | no |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | quit myth. just get it working with "mplayer /dev/video0" first |
| [04:50:00] | jemarcks: | ok... |
| [04:50:00] | rjune: | brooktree based tv tuners require software encoding, correct? |
| [04:50:00] | kormoc: | righto |
| [04:51:00] | jemarcks: | xris, ok mplayer is showing good video, no sound |
| [04:51:00] | xris: | jemarcks: then make sure you have the sound configured properly (ivtvctl) |
| [04:51:00] | xris: | and make sure that the volume on your computer is actually audible (ie. play an mp3 or something to make sure it's outputting) |
| [04:52:00] | jemarcks: | do i need to reboot? |
| [04:52:00] | jemarcks: | what ivtvctl command do i use? |
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| [04:53:00] | ** rjune thinks he should prolly use the nvidia drivers ** | |
| [04:54:00] | topping: | anyone know the use of mythdvd mythtv mythvideo in /var/lib? |
| [04:54:00] | topping: | should all those be symlinks to /var/video? |
| [04:55:00] | topping: | or do i risk namespace collisions if i do that? |
| [04:55:00] | jemarcks: | xris, your not using a sound card... you using the audio input on the 150? |
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| [04:56:00] | xris: | jemarcks: that's how the hardware encoder cards work. |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | otherwise, they can't encode the audio |
| [04:56:00] | jemarcks: | i see. makes sense... ok. im looking at jarods guide and trying to see how to make it use the 150 linein. |
| [04:57:00] | jemarcks: | jarods guide is talking about using a sound card or onboard sound |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | jemarcks: you need the soundcard for audio out, but all input should go through the 150. |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | otherwise, you end up with an mpeg file with no sound. |
| [04:59:00] | jemarcks: | ok... thats how i got it hooked up now. (thank you) but no sound is comeing out |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | have you tested that ANY sound can come out? (mp3, etc) |
| [05:01:00] | jemarcks: | xris, how do you have the mythfrontend -> setup set? /dev/dsp? |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | jemarcks: I have a bttv card on my actual mythbox. |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | 150 is still in testing phase. |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | regardless, it shouldn't matter about myth. |
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| [05:01:00] | jemarcks: | xris, the motherboard outputs sound when it gets it from the line in on the mother board |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | jemarcks: not what I asked. |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | can you play an mp3? |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | passthrough is different volume control than playing a sound file. |
| [05:02:00] | jemarcks: | dont have a mp3. how did you test your? |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | locate mp3 |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | locate ogg |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | locate wav |
| [05:03:00] | xris: | there will be SOME kind of sound file on the machine. |
| [05:03:00] | jemarcks: | ah... /usr/share/sounds/... |
| [05:05:00] | xris: | so? |
| [05:05:00] | jemarcks: | aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav doesnt work |
| [05:05:00] | xris: | ok. then you need to figure out how to adjust your volume. |
| [05:05:00] | jemarcks: | wait.. now it worked... after a long pause |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | ok.. now `ivtvctl -A` |
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| [05:07:00] | xris: | ivtvctl --help | grep -A1 set-audio-input |
| [05:07:00] | adante: | is there any way i can get the resolution of the channels i'm watching |
| [05:07:00] | xris: | adante: what do you mean? |
| [05:08:00] | jemarcks: | xris, ivtvctl -A shows me input 0 is tuner audio in and input 1 is audio line in |
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| [05:08:00] | xris: | jemarcks: and it's probably defaulting to tuner audio |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | so set it to 1 |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | then try `mplayer /dev/video0` again |
| [05:09:00] | jemarcks: | how do i set it to 1 |
| [05:09:00] | adante: | xris: i want to be able to tell if its 720x576 or something stupid like 1440x1088 (which one of the channels is and i'm trying to get rid of) |
| [05:09:00] | xris: | adante: dvb? |
| [05:09:00] | xris: | out of my league, then. |
| [05:09:00] | adante: | xris: aye.. i should have mentioned that, heh |
| [05:11:00] | xris: | jemarcks: scroll up, I gave you the command |
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| [05:13:00] | jemarcks: | xris ivtv -q 1 |
| [05:13:00] | xris: | ok. so what does mplayer do now? |
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| [05:15:00] | jemarcks: | xris, nothing either way |
| [05:15:00] | jemarcks: | hmmmm |
| [05:15:00] | Loto-: | could anyone recommend a script (or program available) to restart a process thats died automagically |
| [05:15:00] | mechtn: | hey guys |
| [05:15:00] | mechtn: | well i got a pvr150 today at the store i found in memphis |
| [05:16:00] | mechtn: | ivtv is installed following the fedora c3 howto |
| [05:16:00] | mechtn: | but i'm not sure i see any module loading on bootup like bttv was |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | jemarcks: dunno what to say. I still think it might be something to do with the output. |
| [05:16:00] | Loto-: | you need reaaallly new drivers mechtn |
| [05:16:00] | mechtn: | and there is no selection for it in mythtvsetup |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | let it run for a few seconds, then control-C |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | try playing it on another box. |
| [05:16:00] | jemarcks: | output is ok when i use aplay something.wav |
| [05:16:00] | Loto-: | use the pvr250 selection in myth |
| [05:17:00] | mechtn: | Loto-, using the testing repository like the howto said |
| [05:17:00] | xris: | mechtn: http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/ |
| [05:17:00] | Loto-: | mechtn, can you 'mplayer /dev/video0' ? |
| [05:17:00] | xris: | and make sure you download all of the firmwares |
| [05:17:00] | Loto-: | do what xris says, hes smarter than i |
| [05:18:00] | mechtn: | failed to open /dev/video0 |
| [05:18:00] | mechtn: | oh boy.. i've never strayed outside of the apt-get installs |
| [05:18:00] | xris: | mechtn: did you load the drivers? |
| [05:18:00] | mechtn: | xris, i did.. |
| [05:18:00] | mechtn: | apt-get install ivtv-firmware-audio |
| [05:19:00] | mechtn: | apt-get install ivtv-kmdl-kernelblahblah |
| [05:19:00] | xris: | apt-get install ivtv-firmware-dec ivtv-firmware-enc ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audio |
| [05:19:00] | mechtn: | apt-get install ivtv |
| [05:19:00] | xris: | and you need "bleeding" not just testing. |
| [05:19:00] | mechtn: | hehe there is a bleeding? |
| [05:19:00] | mechtn: | ok it downloaded and added ivtv-firmware out of those.. |
| [05:19:00] | mechtn: | i must have the others installed |
| [05:20:00] | mechtn: | how would i start it up without rebooting |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | modprobe ivtv; modprobe tveeprom |
| [05:20:00] | mechtn: | ok those both worked with no errors |
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| [05:20:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | ls /dev/video* |
| [05:21:00] | psm321: | i cant get color controls to show up... any ideas? |
| [05:21:00] | mechtn: | /dev/video /dev/video0 /dev/video24 /dev/video32 /dev/video4linux |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | mechtn: mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [05:21:00] | mechtn: | w00t w00t w00t |
| [05:22:00] | mechtn: | flawless victory! |
| [05:22:00] | xris: | :) |
| [05:22:00] | mechtn: | well that was easy enuff.. i need to post a newer howto on linux-noob with what else i had to do |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | jarod's guide should have info about how to set up the modprobe stuff to auto-run |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | psm321: press G while watching live tv? |
| [05:23:00] | mechtn: | sweet.. mythtvsetup let me pick it now as an mpeg-2 card |
| [05:23:00] | mechtn: | thats what i wanted to do right? |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | yup |
| [05:24:00] | mechtn: | alrighty |
| [05:24:00] | mechtn: | time to load the front end and watch this puppy go |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | make sure you get it auto-loading, too. |
| [05:24:00] | mechtn: | how do i do that |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | jarod's guide should cover it. |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | search for /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [05:24:00] | jemarcks: | xris, dang, that should have worked... sounded like the correct stuff |
| [05:25:00] | mechtn: | hrm.. livetv said the singal was already in use |
| [05:25:00] | mechtn: | i bet i didnt close mplayer correctly |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | jemarcks: should have? so it played on the other machine? |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | or not? |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | mechtn: could be |
| [05:25:00] | psm321: | xris: i want to adjust during playback of already-recorded stuff tho |
| [05:25:00] | jemarcks: | xris, other machine? |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | psm321: you can't. it's already recorded. |
| [05:25:00] | psm321: | xris: then whats the F key supposed to be for? |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | jemarcks: I told you to `cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg` and try it on another machine. |
| [05:26:00] | xris: | psm321: dunno there. |
| [05:26:00] | psm321: | k well thanks anyway |
| [05:26:00] | jemarcks: | xris, i only have one tuner card in one machine |
| [05:26:00] | xris: | jemarcks: so? |
| [05:27:00] | xris: | that command will create a test.mpg file that you can transfer to another computer. |
| [05:27:00] | xris: | I want to be absolutely sure that it's not a sound output configuration problem on your mythbox |
| [05:28:00] | jemarcks: | ohok |
| [05:28:00] | xris: | so just cat, then control-c after a few seconds. |
| [05:28:00] | xris: | anyway, I need to go help my wife with some housework. afk for awhile. |
| [05:29:00] | mechtn: | i had stuff already added to my modprobe.conf |
| [05:29:00] | mechtn: | could it have just been that the ivtv-firmware was missing |
| [05:30:00] | jemarcks: | thanks xris |
| [05:31:00] | mechtn: | going to reboot and see if it works |
| [05:31:00] | mechtn: | be right back |
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| [05:32:00] | jemarcks: | w |
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| [05:39:00] | adante: | say what's the "fill" mode in hdtv? |
| [05:40:00] | adante: | errr in watching tv i mean |
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| [05:41:00] | mechtn: | well |
| [05:41:00] | mechtn: | tv plays for like 1 second or 2 in myth and then freezes |
| [05:44:00] | backslash__: | sooo...DirecTV just put up an MPEG4 HDTV satellite....does this possibly mean we can get HDTV to our computers now? |
| [05:44:00] | backslash__: | when the signal becomes available that is 2007 |
| [05:45:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, what version of mythtv? |
| [05:47:00] | Loto-: | backslash, the streams are encrypted and dont use the DVB-S standard. Until you crack the directTV box, and digitally transfer the streams to a PC somehow (firewire perhaps? access the direct hdd?) its not going to happen |
| [05:47:00] | mechtn: | .17 i believe |
| [05:47:00] | mechtn: | it wont upgrade to .18 because of a dependancy issue i think |
| [05:48:00] | backslash__: | Loto-, well we have till 2007 heh |
| [05:48:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, has this box ever worked normally ? |
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| [05:49:00] | mechtn: | hehe... i've had 2 different other tuner cards |
| [05:49:00] | mechtn: | and i've eventually got it working with both |
| [05:49:00] | backslash__: | so you had it working changed something and then it broke...what did you change? |
| [05:51:00] | ** backslash__ needs to get off his ass and upgrade to 0.18 ** | |
| [05:51:00] | backslash__: | i'm still running 0.17 too |
| [05:51:00] | mechtn: | i took out the bttv card |
| [05:51:00] | mechtn: | and put in a pvr-150 |
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| [05:51:00] | mechtn: | just installed the drivers.. it works fine in mplayer |
| [05:52:00] | backslash__: | might try rebooting first |
| [05:53:00] | mechtn: | already did |
| [05:53:00] | backslash__: | after that...hmmm "apt-get dist update; apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| [05:53:00] | mechtn: | where do i add tveeprom to the autostart in fedora |
| [05:53:00] | mechtn: | i added lines to the modprobe.conf |
| [05:53:00] | mechtn: | but i see bttv still auto starting and dont see ivtv |
| [05:54:00] | backslash__: | hmm |
| [05:55:00] | backslash__: | could try loading the right stuff manually first |
| [05:55:00] | backslash__: | i forgot the modprobe syntax for unloading drivers... |
| [05:55:00] | xris: | mechtn: could have sworn jarod's guide had info on how to make it autoload |
| [05:55:00] | backslash__: | but modprobe <unload> bttv |
| [05:56:00] | backslash__: | then modprobe tveeprom |
| [05:56:00] | xris: | backslash__: rmmod |
| [05:56:00] | mechtn: | i see everyone saying soemthing about |
| [05:56:00] | backslash__: | thanks xrix |
| [05:56:00] | mechtn: | ....introduced references to tveeprom-ivtv instead of just tveeprom |
| [05:56:00] | backslash__: | xris |
| [05:57:00] | mechtn: | you think that has anything to do what what i'm doing? |
| [05:57:00] | backslash__: | possibly, but i'm pretty sure you don't want bttv loaded |
| [05:59:00] | mechtn: | i had already done modprobe ivtv and tveeprom |
| [05:59:00] | mechtn: | and the rmmod bttv said not found |
| [05:59:00] | mechtn: | but modprobe -r bttv ran fine |
| [05:59:00] | mechtn: | i assume -r meant remove |
| [06:00:00] | backslash__: | yeah you can't remove it twice |
| [06:00:00] | backslash__: | that's why rmmod didn't find it |
| [06:00:00] | mechtn: | k |
| [06:00:00] | backslash__: | so load up tveeprom and fire up myth again |
| [06:01:00] | backslash__: | my mythtv box has been humming along happily for like 3 months now heh |
| [06:02:00] | backslash__: | bout time for an upgrade tho |
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| [06:02:00] | mechtn: | nope said it encountered an eror |
| [06:02:00] | backslash__: | what's the error? |
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| [06:03:00] | mechtn: | didnt give a message besides |
| [06:03:00] | mechtn: | an error has been encountered |
| [06:04:00] | mechtn: | and a button to go to main menu |
| [06:04:00] | mechtn: | umm .. |
| [06:04:00] | mechtn: | apt-get install mythtvsuite is how i orignally installed myth |
| [06:04:00] | rjune: | the Hauppage PVR 350 can be used for either hardware encoding or decoding, do I have to have two cards to use them for both? or will one card do decoding/encoding at the same time? |
| [06:04:00] | mechtn: | what command do i use to upgrade it |
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| [06:04:00] | backslash__: | rjune, one card will do it all |
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| [06:04:00] | rjune: | cool |
| [06:05:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, "apt-get update; apt-get install mythtvsuite" i believe |
| [06:05:00] | rjune: | the Matrox G200 is suggested as an encoder card, will any G200 work? or does it have to be one with a tv tuner on it? |
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| [06:05:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, yeah kind of pointless to fix an old installation |
| [06:06:00] | backslash__: | might want to back up the mythconverg database first tho |
| [06:06:00] | backslash__: | rjune, you need one with a tuner |
| [06:07:00] | rjune: | backslash__: how about a decoder? doe sthat have to have a tuner on it too? |
| [06:07:00] | backslash__: | rjune, no |
| [06:07:00] | rjune: | I've got an nvidia with tvout, trying to figure out if it'll do decoding |
| [06:07:00] | xanderp: | i've tried about 5 different ways to get my frontend to re-launch from hitting the power button on the remote after frontend crash. I did the 'wife button' stuff, but when i try it, either nothing happens, or at a console that I'm ssh'ed in with i see an error about mythfrontend not being able to connect to X. what am I missing here? |
| [06:08:00] | backslash__: | rjune, probably not |
| [06:08:00] | mechtn: | grr this is too wierd |
| [06:08:00] | backslash__: | rjune, wait didnt read your last comment |
| [06:08:00] | mechtn: | my apt-get cant download abunch of updates from the repository |
| [06:09:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, update apt itself first with a new apt rpm |
| [06:09:00] | backslash__: | see Jarod's Guide for the rpm name |
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| [06:10:00] | backslash__: | xanderp, does myth take down your x server when it crashes? |
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| [06:10:00] | xanderp: | nope |
| [06:11:00] | rjune: | backslash__: I'm confused now |
| [06:11:00] | xanderp: | backslash__: if i remote desktop into the machine i can relaunch mythfrontend just fine |
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| [06:12:00] | backslash__: | xanderp, running mythfrontend in a ssh console window launches it on the machine your window runs on |
| [06:12:00] | rjune: | backslash__: is there a hardware guide that'll help detirmine what's what? |
| [06:12:00] | backslash__: | if no x server on that machine, then it won't run |
| [06:13:00] | backslash__: | rjune, you should really read the mythtv.org FAQ |
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| [06:13:00] | mechtn: | grr |
| [06:13:00] | mechtn: | this is what i get when i try to upgrade fedora |
| [06:13:00] | mechtn: | file /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/vldXvMC.h from install of libXvMCW-0.9.3–1.rhfc3.at conflicts with file from package xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2–1.FC3.13_2.rhfc3.at |
| [06:13:00] | xanderp: | backslash__:sorry, i wasn't clear. I have irexec run from Autostart, and the power button bound to a script that tries to launch mythfrontend. i'm just WATCHING from the ssh console |
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| [06:14:00] | backslash__: | xanderp, heh ok that makes more sense |
| [06:14:00] | rjune: | backslash__: I would love to. I don't see it on mythtv.org, looking in docs right now |
| [06:15:00] | xanderp: | it seems like it's not happy about who launched irexec. (like it wasn't launched inside of X) |
| [06:15:00] | backslash__: | got to wonder if you are running mythfrontend before X starts |
| [06:15:00] | xanderp: | i'm going to try manually launching irexec from within X |
| [06:17:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, damn that error looks like work heh |
| [06:17:00] | mechtn: | aw dont say that |
| [06:17:00] | backslash__: | lol |
| [06:18:00] | mechtn: | should i just uninstall mythtv |
| [06:18:00] | mechtn: | and then try and install it clean? |
| [06:18:00] | backslash__: | seriously though there are ways to fix that error |
| [06:19:00] | backslash__: | looks like a very important file though that's conflicting |
| [06:19:00] | backslash__: | mechtn, did you apt-get update first? |
| [06:19:00] | mechtn: | ya |
| [06:20:00] | mechtn: | i get this also when i do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [06:20:00] | mechtn: | Failed to fetch http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/3/i386/ . . . fc3.i386.rpm 403 Forbidden |
| [06:20:00] | mechtn: | on abunch of different ones |
| [06:21:00] | backslash__: | one thing to do is wait a few days until the apt package (for xorg) is fixed |
| [06:21:00] | backslash__: | if you are in a hurry, then you could reinstall fedora like you said, but back up your recorded shows (and the database) first |
| [06:22:00] | backslash__: | if you don't back up the database and your shows, then you will lose them |
| [06:22:00] | backslash__: | use mysqldump to back up the database — and there are posts in the mailing list that say how to do that |
| [06:23:00] | rjune: | the howto tells how to do that too I think |
| [06:23:00] | backslash__: | well that's convenient then |
| [06:24:00] | rjune: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.15 <-- |
| [06:24:00] | mechtn: | ok i'm going to bed |
| [06:25:00] | xanderp: | ok, so if i manually run irexec from my X session i can get the power button to launch frontend. I don't think the kill is working though, as i can have multiple copies of frontend running if i hit power repeatedly. |
| [06:25:00] | mechtn: | night guys.. thanks backslash for your help |
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| [06:25:00] | backslash__: | np |
| [06:26:00] | rjune: | backslash__: so where is this faq? |
| [06:26:00] | backslash__: | rjune, lot of good info here http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/ and also at mythtv.org |
| [06:27:00] | backslash__: | the questions you ask are probably best answered at those places |
| [06:28:00] | backslash__: | xanderp, so irexec is dying when myth crashes |
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| [06:29:00] | xanderp: | backslash__: 2 problems, 1: i don't know how to get irexec to run IN my X instead of before it launches. 2: the mythpowerbutton.sh doesn't seem to be able to properly kill mythfrontend for me. |
| [06:30:00] | xanderp: | i gutted the kill/reboot of the backend from the script as I don't want it to kill those. |
| [06:31:00] | backslash__: | xanderp, to get something to run IN your X, can add that something to an X startup script in your /home/mythtv directory |
| [06:31:00] | backslash__: | assuming mythtv is your mythtv user name |
| [06:32:00] | xanderp: | running kde, would that be /home/mythtv/kde3.3/Autostart/ ? |
| [06:32:00] | rjune: | backslash__: well, mythtv.org is where I was looking and not seeing the answers |
| [06:32:00] | backslash__: | xanderp, i think that's one way to do it |
| [06:32:00] | backslash__: | there are like 3 ways to autostart stuff in KDE |
| [06:33:00] | xanderp: | backslash__:please say 1 of them is gui based! ;) |
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| [06:33:00] | rjune: | ~/.Xclients is pretty easy, you want my .Xclients file? |
| [06:33:00] | xanderp: | ? |
| [06:34:00] | backslash__: | yeah, look in Autorun dir |
| [06:35:00] | backslash__: | can just drop a symlink in there that points to irexec |
| [06:35:00] | xanderp: | i think it needs to be a script since i need it to be a daemon 'irexec -d' or am i mistaken? |
| [06:36:00] | backslash__: | script is fine to drop in there |
| [06:36:00] | backslash__: | into that dir |
| [06:36:00] | xanderp: | k... now to figure out the reason it isn't killing frontend before relaunching it.... hmmm |
| [06:36:00] | rjune: | backslash__: neither talks about decoder hardware really. |
| [06:36:00] | backslash__: | as mythtv: echo "irexec -d" >> ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| [06:37:00] | backslash__: | oops |
| [06:37:00] | backslash__: | needs #! /bin/bash at the top |
| [06:38:00] | rjune: | and chmod 755 |
| [06:38:00] | backslash__: | righto |
| [06:38:00] | xanderp: | got the script in place and chmod'ed. should work. |
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| [06:39:00] | backslash__: | well hopefully helping people on #mythtv-users was a cure for my insomnia...gotta get up in 3 hours and go to work....back to bed for me! |
| [06:39:00] | xanderp: | thanks backslash |
| [06:39:00] | backslash__: | np |
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| [06:40:00] | xanderp: | i gotta get there too... work comes too early in the AM for me! :) |
| [06:40:00] | xanderp: | thanks all... |
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| [07:00:00] | banyan: | Seemingly silly question — default location for the 0.18 mythfrontend binary if I installed from rpm? |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | /usr/bin |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | rpm -ql mythfrontend |
| [07:01:00] | banyan: | "not installed..." |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | maybe it's mythtv-frontend |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | I don't remember anymore, I started using CVS in October or so |
| [07:03:00] | banyan: | Hmm, I can see that I got an update, but I dunno if I got the whole thing. |
| [07:04:00] | xris: | Beirdo: port is good. :) |
| [07:04:00] | xris: | so is canned air (though not for the same thing) |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | so I changed the mythtv blog on my site to using wordpress |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | now I need to re-theme it and tweak to match the rest of the site |
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| [07:09:00] | banyan: | Ahh, they just moved my cheese... into a different package name. |
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| [07:14:00] | banyan: | port is very good. |
| [07:23:00] | Beirdo: | well, bed |
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| [07:28:00] | banyan: | Odd... why does the new mythtv insist on looking in the wrong directory for the themes? |
| [07:29:00] | banyan: | It wants /usr/share/mythtv when there is no such thing. |
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| [07:30:00] | Agrajag-: | banyan: do you have two versions installed or something? |
| [07:32:00] | banyan: | would apt-get allow such a thing to occur? |
| [07:33:00] | Agrajag-: | depends how clever the people are who did the packaging |
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| [07:38:00] | banyan: | Or not...! |
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| [07:42:00] | levon: | morning |
| [07:46:00] | banyan: | well, I just had to go into the database and set my theme to "blue". |
| [07:46:00] | banyan: | After trying "Default", "default", "GANT", "", etc. |
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| [08:14:00] | linagee: | ack. why does my myth box forget how to change the channel or something? :-( |
| [08:14:00] | linagee: | several reboots does not get it going again |
| [08:14:00] | linagee: | even cold boots |
| [08:15:00] | linagee: | mythtv just starts recording with channel 4 (lowest channel) whenever a program is scheduled. :-( |
| [08:18:00] | linagee: | wtf |
| [08:18:00] | linagee: | 2005-04–27 20:00:02.249 Started recording "Lost" on channel: 1010 on cardid: 1, sourceid 1 |
| [08:18:00] | linagee: | 2005-04–27 20:00:02.343 ChannelBase: Could not find input: Tuner 0 on card when setting channel 10 |
| [08:18:00] | linagee: | 2005-04–27 20:00:02.602 Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
| [08:18:00] | linagee: | 2005-04–27 21:01:00.003 Finished recording Lost on channel: 1010 |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | i believe they programmed myth not to record Lost properly |
| [08:19:00] | linagee: | on purpose |
| [08:19:00] | linagee: | that's it |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah, it's not a very good show |
| [08:19:00] | linagee: | they just put every show i wanted to watch into the "do not record" thingy. lol |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | haha |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | :) |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | Could not find input: |
| [08:19:00] | linagee: | i think it has something to do with the backend and remote stuff and such. it's only one box |
| [08:19:00] | Agrajag-: | do you get that when trying to watch live tv ever? |
| [08:20:00] | linagee: | too bad i can't run mythtvsetup. :-( |
| [08:20:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: i don't watch live tv ever |
| [08:20:00] | Agrajag-: | why can't you run it? |
| [08:20:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: X sucks over remote |
| [08:20:00] | linagee: | unless there were some sort of low bandwidth X....... |
| [08:20:00] | Agrajag-: | well there's vnc |
| [08:20:00] | Agrajag-: | which can do pretty low bandwidth |
| [08:21:00] | linagee: | vnc is lower bandwidth than X? |
| [08:21:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [08:21:00] | ** linagee tries ** | |
| [08:21:00] | linagee: | but first |
| [08:21:00] | Agrajag-: | you can't just run mythtv-setup over ssh with x11 forwading? |
| [08:21:00] | linagee: | i will require a mountain dew |
| [08:21:00] | linagee: | this is going to be a long night. lol. |
| [08:21:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: yes, i can. but X sucks over remote. |
| [08:21:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: laggy to hell and back |
| [08:21:00] | Agrajag-: | ok. how slow is this connection? |
| [08:22:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: couple of megabits down, couple of kilobits up |
| [08:22:00] | linagee: | same on the other side. so you're looking at kilobits going in both ways |
| [08:22:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok. hmm.. not even sure if vnc will cut it then |
| [08:23:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: ok. i just need to move to china or something then. |
| [08:23:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: out of the US |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | haha |
| [08:23:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: becuase then i'd have super cheap broadband capable of megabits up. :) |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | i hear korea has the best cheap internet |
| [08:23:00] | linagee: | that's it |
| [08:23:00] | linagee: | korea |
| [08:24:00] | Agrajag-: | here in .au cable isn't so bad |
| [08:24:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: kilobits up? |
| [08:24:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm not sure as my brother works for ISP and our connection is 'special' |
| [08:24:00] | linagee: | hmmmm |
| [08:24:00] | Agrajag-: | i think normal cable is only 16kB/sec up, but that's changing soon |
| [08:24:00] | Agrajag-: | but 10mbit dow |
| [08:24:00] | linagee: | they probably have it uncapped or something. lol. |
| [08:24:00] | Agrajag-: | down |
| [08:25:00] | linagee: | 10mbit down?? |
| [08:25:00] | linagee: | i've got 6mbit down on dsl |
| [08:25:00] | linagee: | everyone's cable here is capped at 4.5mbit down |
| [08:25:00] | linagee: | it doesn't matter anyhow |
| [08:25:00] | Agrajag-: | really.. our down isn't capped, modems are 10mbit though |
| [08:25:00] | linagee: | nobody has the upstream to support such downstream. |
| [08:25:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [08:26:00] | linagee: | the internet is too slow. lol. |
| [08:26:00] | Agrajag-: | well if you're feeling up to it you could always edit the db by hand |
| [08:26:00] | linagee: | ?? |
| [08:26:00] | linagee: | edit the db? |
| [08:27:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. you need to fix up input/cards right? |
| [08:27:00] | linagee: | bah. i wouldn't even know where to begin |
| [08:27:00] | Agrajag-: | the 'capturecard' and 'input' tables :) |
| [08:27:00] | linagee: | i might be able to put in shows or query shows by hand, but that's my limit |
| [08:27:00] | Agrajag-: | no.. 'cardinput' |
| [08:28:00] | Agrajag-: | hm yeah without examples it might be a bit hard |
| [08:28:00] | Agrajag-: | so uh.. if you'ev got such a slow connection to this backend – how're you gonna watch recordings? |
| [08:28:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: go over to the box. :) |
| [08:28:00] | Agrajag-: | haha ok |
| [08:29:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: i just don't want to wait that long as shows already started not recording. :-/ |
| [08:29:00] | Agrajag-: | oh.. so it was working and now it's not? |
| [08:30:00] | linagee: | exactly. i MIGHT have messed with mythtvsetup before. not sure if that was before it stopped working. (possibly) |
| [08:30:00] | linagee: | i think everyone needs snapshots for linux. :) |
| [08:31:00] | linagee: | then just have mythtv data and linux os on two different drives |
| [08:31:00] | Agrajag-: | or just database backups :P |
| [08:31:00] | linagee: | then you should be able to say, "go back 2 weeks on the OS drive when it was working" |
| [08:31:00] | linagee: | my backups right now consist of absolutely nothing |
| [08:32:00] | Agrajag-: | heh.. i backup mythconverg every few days |
| [08:32:00] | Agrajag-: | anyway i guess you'll have to wait till you can run mythtvsetup |
| [08:33:00] | linagee: | what needs to be backed up? xmltv can always redownload. LOL |
| [08:33:00] | linagee: | oh wait |
| [08:33:00] | linagee: | shoot |
| [08:34:00] | linagee: | if it forgets the shows i've watched.... |
| [08:34:00] | linagee: | it will start recording everything. that would be such a sucky thing |
| [08:34:00] | Agrajag-: | just backup the entire database with 'mysqldump -umythtv -pwhateveryourpasswordis mythconverg' |
| [08:35:00] | Agrajag-: | > backup.sql |
| [08:35:00] | linagee: | after stopping mythbackend and mysqld of course. :) |
| [08:35:00] | Agrajag-: | nah |
| [08:35:00] | linagee: | or should you have to... |
| [08:35:00] | Agrajag-: | don't have to |
| [08:36:00] | ** linagee knows Agrajag-'s password now. :) ** | |
| [08:36:00] | Agrajag-: | haha |
| [08:37:00] | linagee: | login: root password: whateveryourpasswordis |
| [08:37:00] | linagee: | # |
| [08:38:00] | ** linagee has a tape unit to fix tomorrow. lol. ironic that i don't have one myself. :) ** | |
| [08:38:00] | linagee: | and by fix i mean, swap out old with new. |
| [08:38:00] | Agrajag-: | root does't have a login shell on this box :P |
| [08:39:00] | adante: | can someone help me with mythfilldatabase, it doesn't seem to be calling my tv_grab script sensibly |
| [08:40:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: you're in .au – are you using the ninemsn grabber? |
| [08:40:00] | adante: | when i call tv_grab_au from the shell it takes about 10s to run, from mythfilldatabase it says tv_grab_au: finished in 0:0 — that and it doesn't perform any updates |
| [08:40:00] | Agrajag-: | or d1? |
| [08:40:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: well i'm... *trying* to use the ninemsn one |
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| [08:40:00] | Agrajag-: | you can't use it like that |
| [08:40:00] | Agrajag-: | you have to do |
| [08:40:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: if by that you mean the one at www.immim.com/tv_grab_au |
| [08:40:00] | linagee: | maybe it's an .au thing |
| [08:40:00] | Agrajag-: | wait.. here's mine |
| [08:41:00] | Agrajag-: | /home/filip/tv_grab_au --output=/home/filip/tv_grab_au_cache/guide.xml && /usr/local/bin/mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 /home/filip/tv_grab_au_cache/guide.xml |
| [08:41:00] | Agrajag-: | so first try doing |
| [08:41:00] | Agrajag-: | tv_grab_au --output=/wherever/guide.xml |
| [08:41:00] | linagee: | solution: move to another country! :) |
| [08:41:00] | Agrajag-: | then see if that guide.xml has stuff in it |
| [08:41:00] | linagee: | mouse doesn't work? get a new computer! :) |
| [08:41:00] | Agrajag-: | if it does – run mythfilldatabase --file -1 -1 /wherever/guide.xml |
| [08:42:00] | Agrajag-: | err make that 1 -1 |
| [08:43:00] | linagee: | imagine if you beowulfed mythtv's from all over the world. you'd have every channel! and without even having to go to satellite! (and satellite might not have every channel) |
| [08:44:00] | Agrajag-: | bah |
| [08:44:00] | linagee: | bah? |
| [08:44:00] | Agrajag-: | there's enough rubbish already on the 5 channels we have here |
| [08:44:00] | linagee: | LOL |
| [08:44:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: 5 channels? |
| [08:44:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [08:44:00] | Agrajag-: | well 7 if you include the new dvb ones. but they're really just offshoots of 2 existing ones. |
| [08:44:00] | linagee: | 5 local channels and everything else is from europe? |
| [08:45:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: thanks! that worked for everything except ten |
| [08:45:00] | Agrajag-: | eh? 5 channels and that's it |
| [08:45:00] | Agrajag-: | unless you have cable |
| [08:45:00] | linagee: | ahh |
| [08:45:00] | Agrajag-: | but cable tv isn't nearly as popular here as it is in US |
| [08:45:00] | linagee: | and if you have cable, they just take some satellite feeds and mix it into some copper. :) |
| [08:45:00] | Agrajag-: | i find it pretty disturbing that the average american watches 4 HOURS of tv a day |
| [08:45:00] | linagee: | everyone does that |
| [08:45:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: have you been able to get it to work with the full data (--slow)? it doesn't seem to parse the detailed info properly for me |
| [08:45:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: i know! only four?? :) |
| [08:46:00] | linagee: | lol |
| [08:46:00] | Agrajag-: | well i find that insane |
| [08:46:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: i dont know what script you're using exactly (that url before didnt' work) |
| [08:46:00] | Agrajag-: | but i get full descriptions and everything |
| [08:46:00] | Agrajag-: | (i dont use --slow, you must be using a different grabber, i dont know) |
| [08:46:00] | ** linagee watches computers on average 12 hours a day. (possibly more. maybe more like 15 or 18.) ** | |
| [08:47:00] | linagee: | at home, at work, at etc. |
| [08:47:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i probably do 8 hours of computers a day.. because im a software dev. |
| [08:47:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: no, because you do computers and watch mythtv on a computer. :) |
| [08:48:00] | linagee: | does that count as computer time or tv time? lol |
| [08:48:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: erp, sorry http://immir.com/tv_grab_au |
| [08:48:00] | Agrajag-: | tv time :) |
| [08:48:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: lemme have a look |
| [08:48:00] | adante: | if you're not using that could you send me yours? i've spent about 4 hours trying to fix my mythsetup today (thus being unable to watch that 4 hours of tv instead :) |
| [08:48:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: i live in the USA. there's not 4 hours of programming worth mythtv-ing a day. lol. i only mythtv/watch the best. :) |
| [08:49:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: sure hang on a sec |
| [08:49:00] | Agrajag-: | i've slightly modified mine to work with the ABC2/SBSNEWS dvb channels.. but it should still work for you |
| [08:49:00] | Agrajag-: | http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/tv_grab_au |
| [08:50:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: modify it to record programs with dubya. :) |
| [08:50:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll have to edit the top part of it a bit to set your location and xml |
| [08:50:00] | Agrajag-: | id stuff |
| [08:50:00] | Agrajag-: | linagee: do programs in the US start/stop on time? |
| [08:51:00] | Agrajag-: | here it's terrible, tv stations almost always go over time and start late and stuff. they're trying to steal ratings from other channels by doing that. it's so annoying |
| [08:51:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: most do. i think they are starting to throw off the times just to piss off mythtv and other PVR owners. |
| [08:51:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: ahh, used to be using that one, but for some reason the lwp perlfunc getstore() doesn't work for me |
| [08:52:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: got the right perl modules installed? |
| [08:52:00] | adante: | well i got lwp.. the function gets called but it always returns in an error |
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| [08:53:00] | adante: | exact same test code works on 1 box but not the other; i gave up because it baffled me |
| [08:53:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok. weird |
| [08:53:00] | ** linagee ponders what someone would think if they heard perl module without knowing it's a scripting language. :) ** | |
| [08:53:00] | linagee: | like a customizable necklace. :) |
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| [08:57:00] | Agrajag-: | linagee: well i have about 3 shows a week that i watch. so that's < 2 hours a week on average :P |
| [08:58:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: the id's in yours are source.city.channel.d1.com.au ? |
| [08:58:00] | Agrajag-: | my $XMLTVID_URL = "d1.com.au"; |
| [08:58:00] | linagee: | < 2 hours a WEEK?? |
| [08:58:00] | linagee: | i watch maybe 10 hours a week |
| [08:59:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: lemme check what i have in the db for channels |
| [08:59:00] | Agrajag-: | free.Sydney.10.d1.com.au |
| [08:59:00] | Agrajag-: | so yeah that |
| [08:59:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: thank you |
| [08:59:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: does it seem weird that you develop mythtv to further USA's couch potato-ing? :) |
| [08:59:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont develop mythtv :) |
| [08:59:00] | linagee: | what do you develop then? |
| [09:00:00] | Agrajag-: | bit of licq |
| [09:00:00] | Agrajag-: | but i work for a software dev company |
| [09:00:00] | Agrajag-: | doing completely unrelated stuff |
| [09:00:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: top secret government code? |
| [09:00:00] | Agrajag-: | haha no not quite |
| [09:01:00] | linagee: | hrm. not quite can mean "kind of" lol. :) |
| [09:01:00] | linagee: | Agrajag-: what do you develop in? windows or linux? language? |
| [09:01:00] | Agrajag-: | at work? linux, perl/php (web applications) |
| [09:02:00] | linagee: | oic. high level stuff. hehehe |
| [09:02:00] | Agrajag-: | at home.. linux/c++/c/java/whatever im trying to debug ;P |
| [09:02:00] | linagee: | you go to work and do high level, go home and do low level. heh |
| [09:03:00] | linagee: | and now i must sleep. 1am in the states. gnite all. |
| [09:03:00] | Agrajag-: | cya |
| [09:11:00] | adante: | stupid guide data |
| [09:11:00] | adante: | download faster |
| [09:12:00] | adante: | i'm missing simpsons :S |
| [09:14:00] | Agrajag-: | hahaha |
| [09:14:00] | Agrajag-: | how long does yours take? |
| [09:14:00] | Agrajag-: | mine only takes ~20 seconds i think |
| [09:14:00] | Agrajag-: | to get the lot |
| [09:16:00] | adante: | um getting on to 10 minutes now |
| [09:16:00] | Agrajag-: | whoa |
| [09:16:00] | Agrajag-: | what kind of connection |
| [09:16:00] | adante: | this is the initial population though.. its downloaded about 1800 html files |
| [09:17:00] | adante: | dsl 1500 |
| [09:17:00] | Agrajag-: | ah ok |
| [09:17:00] | adante: | man.. my myth setup was working fine last year |
| [09:17:00] | Agrajag-: | still seems a bit long |
| [09:17:00] | adante: | then i went overseas and when I came back its all broken |
| [09:18:00] | adante: | its doing about 3/4 a second |
| [09:18:00] | adante: | 2000 |
| [09:19:00] | adante: | hooray finished |
| [09:29:00] | adante: | Agrajag-: thanks for your help, working swimmingly now |
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| [10:01:00] | Agrajag-: | adante: no wukkas |
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| [10:07:00] | adante: | ok I lied... anybody know anything about how the recording schedule data is stored? |
| [10:07:00] | adante: | after all my mucking about with guide data, myth is now trying to record the same show twice, multiple times or more |
| [10:08:00] | adante: | so I have 3 cards recording the same episode of the simpsons and for some reason its making myth go a little crazy |
| [10:08:00] | jhs_s: | adante: Nearly everything is stored in the database. |
| [10:10:00] | adante: | jhs_s: i've been blundering around in there, just hoping someone could point me in the right direction |
| [10:14:00] | jhs_s: | adante: Sorry, I have no database here so I cannot point you to the correct table |
| [10:38:00] | tyrese: | Any recommendation for cards to use in the UK? |
| [10:38:00] | ikaro: | mojn |
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| [13:43:00] | ikaro: | I think ill sell my pvr350 |
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| [13:43:00] | ikaro: | works like crap in linux |
| [13:46:00] | rjune: | ? |
| [13:46:00] | ikaro: | was watching a program, and then I went to kitchen to make some coffee, when i got back the screen was black and the log is filled with "Decoder not alive" "taking too long to be allowed to read..." |
| [13:46:00] | ikaro: | etc..etc.. |
| [13:47:00] | ikaro: | happens quite often |
| [13:49:00] | ikaro: | a good example on how the lack of driver support can make things a shit. |
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| [13:51:00] | rjune: | that sucks, that card is supposed to work quite well |
| [13:52:00] | ikaro: | im not using tv out, i just run mythtv in a window in my desktop. |
| [13:52:00] | ikaro: | and in this situation, i can say from experience, that overall its pretty shitty. |
| [13:53:00] | Cromz: | ? |
| [13:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, if you are not using the tv out, then the decoder message is likely not referring to the card since the decoder aspect of the card is only used when outputting to tv |
| [13:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you don't want it I'll give ya $20 for it :) |
| [13:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure I can find a use for it :) |
| [13:55:00] | ikaro: | ive used it in windows, and never had the card went into a coma after runing for some hours. |
| [13:56:00] | ikaro: | so, if anyone if to blame, is hauppauge – for not releasing info how the HW works |
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| [13:56:00] | ikaro: | http://pastebin.com/277083 |
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| [13:57:00] | CyberKnet: | GAH! stupid allergies. |
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| [13:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't doubt there are issues when using the decoder on it, but any decoder error you are seeing whgile watching in a window is likely no card related since the decoder is used during tv out, not when playingback to a monitor. |
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| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Like I said, I'll happily take it off your hands, I'm sure I can either use it myself or in a myth box I put together for someone |
| [13:58:00] | ikaro: | so how do you explain the issue ? |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | ikaro: Since I don't have the card to attempt to trouble shoot I don't |
| [13:59:00] | Cromz: | what card? |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I can tell you that the hardware deocding is only used when using the cards tvout |
| [13:59:00] | ** ProtocoLD drinks his morning coffee ** | |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | any playback to a monitor is happenning either in software, OR in your videocards xvmc decoding |
| [14:00:00] | ikaro: | 2005-04–28 14:45:35.126 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. |
| [14:00:00] | CyberKnet: | correct-o-mundo. |
| [14:00:00] | ikaro: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [14:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | ikaro: Looks like more than one issue to me |
| [14:00:00] | ikaro: | so it just switches to tv-out out of the blue |
| [14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I doubt it. You are assuming thnat decoder is referring to the card |
| [14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you use xvmc for mpeg2 decoding it could be referring to that, if you use software decoding it could be referring to the decoder routines |
| [14:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | But certainly check your playback settings and see if you have pvr350 set to be used for playback |
| [14:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you are not using the tvout it should not be turned on |
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| [14:03:00] | ikaro: | i dont think it is. |
| [14:05:00] | ikaro: | Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping. |
| [14:05:00] | ikaro: | thats from mythbackend |
| [14:05:00] | ikaro: | after a reboot usually it works again – for some hours. |
| [14:05:00] | Cromz: | my pvr350 works great. I've had some issues but mine was do to lack of linux / myth knowledge. I run dual montors and one of them are the myth. FC3_64 everything is working fine cept for the irblaster positioning to my cable box. |
| [14:06:00] | ikaro: | other times i need to boot into a windows installation – start the tv application – close it – reboot into linux, and then it works again. |
| [14:07:00] | ikaro: | all of these symptoms are clear driver issues. |
| [14:08:00] | Cromz: | I'm running FC3_64, ivtv 0.3.2z, myth 0.18 |
| [14:08:00] | ikaro: | so you are 1337, yea? |
| [14:08:00] | Cromz: | no |
| [14:08:00] | Cromz: | mine works |
| [14:08:00] | ikaro: | good, congratulations. |
| [14:08:00] | Cromz: | your issue maybe with ivtv |
| [14:11:00] | Cromz: | I only have 2 lines in my /etc/modprobe.conf file for ivtv and the 350. after doing some 4 to 5 hour searching to find out this stuff.. |
| [14:11:00] | CyberKnet: | I run run FC2, ivtv 0.2.0–66_rc3i, myth 0.17 |
| [14:11:00] | Cromz: | of course with you being an ass.. I'll keep that info to myself. |
| [14:11:00] | CyberKnet: | (AVerMedia m179) |
| [14:12:00] | ikaro: | you have no idea what you are talking about. |
| [14:12:00] | Cromz: | I don't? |
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| [14:13:00] | rjune: | I always love it when people tell me that in #ltsp |
| [14:13:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [14:14:00] | rjune: | Cromz: I do audio, documentation, wifi terminals, and basicly have prolly touched on almost everything |
| [14:15:00] | laga: | yeah, bitch fight. |
| [14:15:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [14:16:00] | jemarcks: | moning cromz |
| [14:17:00] | jemarcks: | morning |
| [14:18:00] | Cromz: | rjune: :) I'm just a lowly Senior Data Recovery Engineer for the biggest recovery place.. I am a newb to linux and myth. I mess with alot of wierd junk myself.. like vax, blech, I've rebuilt alot of ntfs sytems |
| [14:18:00] | Cromz: | mornin jemarcks |
| [14:18:00] | rjune: | Cromz: heh. it's even funnier when when people tell jammcq that(he started the project) |
| [14:18:00] | rjune: | and how does Senior == lowly? |
| [14:18:00] | Cromz: | but I gotta go.. need to drive that 30 miles to work.. blech.. |
| [14:18:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [14:19:00] | Cromz: | hahahaha |
| [14:19:00] | Cromz: | I always say that. |
| [14:19:00] | rjune: | I work from home. |
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| [14:20:00] | Cromz: | I maybe back. I normally go to work and ssh / vnc then do things like irc, check e-mail... tinker / learn with my linux.. |
| [14:20:00] | jemarcks: | off to work myself... cya |
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| [14:22:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm guessing that GeckoFiend doesn't utilize Geico's insurance offerings... =) |
| [14:22:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh no |
| [14:23:00] | Cromz: | mornin GeckoFiend |
| [14:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | mornin |
| [14:35:00] | CyberKnet: | I bet I'm the first person to make that observation, too. =P" |
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| [14:41:00] | rjune: | CyberKnet: he's against the abuse of geckos like that |
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| [14:50:00] | CyberKnet: | And I tell you the truth, this is a crisis. This is an issue of epidemic proportions, and people should be more aware of it. The abuse of geckos is a subject near and dear to my heart, and one that the american populace are by and large completely ignorant of... |
| [14:50:00] | CyberKnet: | I have a dream... |
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| [15:24:00] | ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet with a trout ** | |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | put away your Gecko Liberation Front membership card :) |
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| [16:02:00] | adante: | these osd themes.. they do generally work alright? |
| [16:02:00] | adante: | when i first start livetv they seem positioned fine |
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| [16:03:00] | adante: | once i change the aspect ratio, they seem to position themselves for a resolution which is way bigger... show info goes off the screen to the right and the volume is quite often not visible at all |
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| [16:06:00] | Cromz: | oh hum.. work is hmm kinda boring right now.. no data to recover for me.. :/ |
| [16:10:00] | ** Beirdo smashes a few hard drives to keep Cromz happy ** | |
| [16:11:00] | Cromz: | woohoo! |
| [16:11:00] | Cromz: | ya know. since I started with Mythtv I've been looking at the unix flavor jobs and check to see if they have Myth install :O |
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| [16:14:00] | Cromz: | damn kopete :> |
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| [16:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | adante the OSD is drawn on the video so it gets adjusted with the video.... |
| [16:49:00] | adante: | yes, problem is its getting adjusted wrong |
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| [17:24:00] | Cromz: | seems Kopete doesnt' like icq anymore.. my lady friend from australia was trying to talk to me and boom.. kopete blowed up.. |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | "lady friend from australia" |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | no such thing |
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| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | Australian women are mean enough to qualify as men =P" |
| [17:27:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [17:27:00] | Cromz: | naw.. this one is tiny.. and cute. I've seen her picture ;) but she is in thier army.. :O |
| [17:28:00] | Cromz: | ok I hope that really was her in the picture.. LOL |
| [17:28:00] | CyberKnet: | the wonders of the internet. =P" |
| [17:28:00] | elgordo123: | quick question. How do I reply to a post of gossamer? If I go into my profile it will download a nightly digest of the posts, but I still dont see how to reply to anyones posts? what else do I need to do? |
| [17:28:00] | CyberKnet: | a 36 year old guy parading around as a 23 year old girl. =P" |
| [17:28:00] | CyberKnet: | elgordo123: you reply to the mailing list |
| [17:28:00] | Cromz: | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | Cromz: Your "lady friend" may have a rug on their back and ass hair abounding =P" |
| [17:29:00] | elgordo123: | yeah, how? Do I just send an email with RE: and then the same heading? |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | elgordo123: Yes. But you will need to be subscribed to the list first. |
| [17:29:00] | elgordo123: | So getting the daily digest is different than being subscribed right? |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | I think you can reply to a digest message. |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm subscribed fully though, so I'm not 100% certain. |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | GMail has space to waste, and waste it I will ;)) |
| [17:30:00] | elgordo123: | oic, so how do I get fully subscribed then? |
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| [17:33:00] | CyberKnet: | elgordo123: hmmm... www.mythtv.org has the instructions. |
| [17:33:00] | elgordo123: | i'll check it out. I have an account setup and can login to gossamer and post, but just not sure how to reply or follow up my own |
| [17:35:00] | elgordo123: | Second question... Can someone tell me what the gap in lirc.conf is for? I have one that was set to 100000 and it wouldn't work, gave bad gap length message, but changed to 200000 and now it works.... (Actually used to send commands to a sat box) |
| [17:38:00] | Cromz: | brb gonna switch to gaim see if that will be more stable then kopete. |
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| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | why is it that nobody makes NICE themes for wordpress... |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | almost all of them are white background, black text |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | http://blog.beirdo.ca/2003/09/19/msi-tv-tuners-suck-ass/ |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:02:00] | Cromz: | I tried to get that to run. told me I needed php4-mysql , I dont' need that.. heheh |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | yes you do :) |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm gonna go get lunch. |
| [18:03:00] | Cromz: | but I'm running php-nuke so it's already there.. or sorta.. |
| [18:03:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [18:03:00] | Cromz: | c'ya |
| [18:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | Beirdo blast from the past? |
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| [18:07:00] | AndyCap: | Anyone here at the moment using a Pundit-R or other ATI 9100IGP box with mythtv? Having a little problem with sound dropping out at playback, and not too good performance with video, but that may be related to the sound problem |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | it was me bitching about my old TV card that's still sitting in the stack of stuff and has questionably Linux support :) |
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| [18:39:00] | Bogus8: | quick question... I'm going through a guide to set up MythTV... is there a need for the user name to be "mythtv" or can I just use any regular user name? |
| [18:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | Bogus8 you can use any name but you'll need to create a mysql.txt file |
| [18:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | the sewtup app will prompt you for the info |
| [18:43:00] | Bogus8: | doesn't sound there there is much benefit to the mythtv user... vs. adding another user to my network |
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| [18:59:00] | mag0o: | http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=x15 |
| [19:04:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, are they going to revive the visor theme? :) |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | why don't you ask on the mailing list where someone might even know? :) |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:05:00] | defaultro: | damn that's a very cool htpc case |
| [19:05:00] | defaultro: | thanks Beirdo |
| [19:05:00] | mag0o: | definately |
| [19:05:00] | defaultro: | how much is it? |
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| [19:06:00] | defaultro: | but how can we make use of the touchscreen technology in mythtv |
| [19:06:00] | AndyCap: | reminds me of the case here: http://www.atechfabrication.com/ |
| [19:07:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [19:07:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: check out the bbti homepage recently?? Get a good laugh :) |
| [19:07:00] | defaultro: | it's almost the same AndyCap |
| [19:07:00] | AndyCap: | defaultro: run a mythfrontend on the touchscreen? :-P |
| [19:07:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you too...check out bbti homepage. bbti.us :) |
| [19:07:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | and what's so funny? |
| [19:08:00] | defaultro: | the HOT DEAL? |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [19:08:00] | mchou: | yup :) Guess they werent out of stock after all :) |
| [19:08:00] | defaultro: | F up them! |
| [19:09:00] | defaultro: | or it might be someone who only had it less than 30 days returned it |
| [19:09:00] | EmergeTW: | Ok, irw is showing the button codes as I press them, but I am getting no reaction from MythTV when I press them. Any ideas? ( I have a lircrc that worked with .17, but I have .18 now, could this be why? ) |
| [19:09:00] | mchou: | Buy it now for ~$70 :) |
| [19:10:00] | defaultro: | you buying? |
| [19:10:00] | mchou: | defaultro: a new one, not from ebay :) |
| [19:10:00] | defaultro: | huh |
| [19:11:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, what are your thoughts now since you pre ordered 2? |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | how should I know |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | I thin $70 is too expensive given Avermedia A180 is out, and also $70. |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | think* |
| [19:11:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [19:11:00] | defaultro: | is that 180 nice? |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | I'll bookmark it and look at it when I'm NOT working |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | I think so. |
| [19:12:00] | defaultro: | what did dopester mentioned about it before? |
| [19:12:00] | defaultro: | mention |
| [19:12:00] | mchou: | defaultro: about ehat? |
| [19:12:00] | defaultro: | and how is the linux support for it? |
| [19:12:00] | mchou: | what* |
| [19:12:00] | defaultro: | about the avermedia |
| [19:12:00] | ** Beirdo slaps defaultro with google ** | |
| [19:12:00] | mchou: | there is no linux support for it YET...... |
| [19:12:00] | defaultro: | i think he mentioned that it has the same implementation as the hd3000 |
| [19:13:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | no, I did, and I was wrong. |
| [19:13:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | it uses a philips saa7133 |
| [19:13:00] | defaultro: | i saw your girl last House showing |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | instead of a bttv |
| [19:13:00] | defaultro: | volger wasn't there |
| [19:13:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | defaultro: that was a repeat. |
| [19:14:00] | defaultro: | it was a repeat and you're right |
| [19:14:00] | defaultro: | i'll have to delete tons of recordings since I will be away for 1 week |
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| [19:17:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
| [19:18:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why when im watching tv or a movie in mythtv some of the reds show up as green? |
| [19:18:00] | kormoc: | well you see |
| [19:18:00] | kormoc: | we had a problem, mythtv promotes violence |
| [19:18:00] | kormoc: | and so the idea was to take away the violence out of the recorded shows |
| [19:18:00] | kormoc: | by replacing some of the violent color, red, with a more... natural color, green |
| [19:19:00] | kormoc: | thus promoting peace and good will towards all of humanity. |
| [19:19:00] | EmergeTW: | kormoc: stop lying |
| [19:19:00] | EmergeTW: | kormoc: you know it is the lepricauns trying to plant clovers |
| [19:20:00] | defaultro: | that was very funny kormoc ;) |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | defaultro: you use satellite internet, right? |
| [19:22:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why when im watching tv or a movie in mythtv some of the reds show up as green? |
| [19:22:00] | defaultro: | yep xris |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | what company? |
| [19:22:00] | defaultro: | fox valley internet |
| [19:23:00] | defaultro: | why? just curious |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | friend of mine is stuck out in the middle of nowhere, thought I'd mention that she has other options than dsl |
| [19:25:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [19:25:00] | xris: | doesn't seem like they offer satellite. just wireless |
| [19:26:00] | defaultro: | oh, i'm wrong |
| [19:26:00] | defaultro: | im using Motorola canopy |
| [19:26:00] | defaultro: | i think it's wireless |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | that's different. |
| [19:26:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [19:26:00] | defaultro: | my friend had a satellite internet from AT&T |
| [19:26:00] | defaultro: | it's about $70/month |
| [19:27:00] | defaultro: | that was about 1.5 years ago |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | defaultro: is wireless encrypted? |
| [19:27:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | lol..... |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | mac filtered? |
| [19:27:00] | defaultro: | but it's different from our 802.1 implementatino |
| [19:27:00] | defaultro: | it uses LOS |
| [19:28:00] | defaultro: | it's not broadcast |
| [19:29:00] | mchou: | carp, my lvm is starting to report smart errors. |
| [19:29:00] | kormoc: | shut her down |
| [19:29:00] | mchou: | crappy maxtor. |
| [19:31:00] | defaultro: | i thought maxtor was better than my WD |
| [19:31:00] | defaultro: | i was planning to buy maxtor too |
| [19:31:00] | mchou: | no, they are both crappy. |
| [19:31:00] | defaultro: | i think, Iomega should revive their bernoulli technology |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | wd's rock |
| [19:32:00] | defaultro: | :( nope |
| [19:32:00] | defaultro: | im an owner of wd |
| [19:32:00] | ** kormoc thinks iomega should get used to the benelli technology. ** | |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | I own quite a few wd's, whats your problem with them? |
| [19:32:00] | defaultro: | bad blocks are very early stage |
| [19:32:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow ** | |
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| [19:33:00] | mchou: | defaultro: yup, have those here too. Sector sparing. |
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| [19:33:00] | ** defaultro is thinking of bringing home one of their SANs in the office ** | |
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| [19:34:00] | mchou: | wow, fuji finepix is on sale again...... |
| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | so anyway, continue on defaultro? |
| [19:35:00] | defaultro: | oh, just bad blocks |
| [19:35:00] | kormoc: | all drives have bad blocks, hence why there's that extra few k that get mapped to on the end of the drive. |
| [19:35:00] | defaultro: | but not in the first month |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | yeah, actually that's the burn in period actually |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | first two months. |
| [19:36:00] | mchou: | kormoc: is your network bad?? xris and you both disconnected at the same time |
| [19:36:00] | defaultro: | i had a 130mb seagate which started to get bad blocks on the 5th year |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | mchou, we've been having issues lately with it, aye, it's a pain |
| [19:36:00] | mchou: | kormoc: dsl or whta? |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, the difference imho is wd tells you when it remaps, most (all?) other drive companys do not. |
| [19:36:00] | mchou: | what* |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | mchou, speakeasy dsl, aye |
| [19:37:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [19:37:00] | adante: | has anybody experienced an effect where myth double records shows? i'm getting the same show recorded twice, except one of them is on another channel |
| [19:37:00] | mchou: | I'm disappointed with pvr150..... |
| [19:38:00] | adante: | AND i don't know if this is sane or not but my when i try to seek through these recordings, which are *complete*, the total time skips oscillates back and forth by a second |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, really, wd has a unwritten rule to not hid info from the person running the dive, including normal drive maintaince, i.e. the moving around of bad blocks and what not. |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, I agree with that 'rule'. I like to know what's going on :) |
| [19:38:00] | mchou: | had hoped it would have better tuner and picture quality...... |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | mchou, input cable line good? i.e. new cable and connectors? |
| [19:39:00] | mchou: | kormoc: yes, had it all checked out. |
| [19:39:00] | defaultro: | kormoc, i didn't get you |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, hum? |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | bitch bitch bitch |
| [19:39:00] | defaultro: | you mean, what im doing with the wd hdd? |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:42:00] | mchou: | wow, learn something new every day. there are cat5e flat cables. |
| [19:43:00] | defaultro: | im watching a mpg wherein they used the hdd heads to play a music |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Interesting, the configure script for mythtv sets my compile arch as athlon, but the configure for plugins chooses pentiumpro :) |
| [19:45:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: heh, guess your plugins dont need optimization :) |
| [19:45:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: you using cvs? |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: yup, as of an hour ago. just compiling now |
| [19:46:00] | mchou: | hmm, I though that configure issue was supposed to have been fixed..... |
| [19:46:00] | mchou: | thought* |
| [19:47:00] | defaultro: | is there a patch to mythfrontend that will allow it to receive stream? |
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| [19:47:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: lemme know how cvs works out for ya. I there a particular reason you are using latest cvs? |
| [19:47:00] | mchou: | Is* |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, no particular reason |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | beyond "someones gotta do it" |
| [19:48:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: fair enough. |
| [19:48:00] | ** xris whacks cvs. why can't you be more like svn? ** | |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | so did we lose jarod? |
| [19:49:00] | ** Beirdo hands xris a sledgehammer, try again ** | |
| [19:49:00] | mchou: | xris: looks like it. |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | doesn't seem to be in today |
| [19:52:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: how tough/easy is it to get openwrt up and running? Like could you do it in 1/2 hr or so starting from factory settings? |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | about that |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | the first time was a bit scary, but it's not too hard |
| [19:53:00] | adante: | if i wanted to dump all my program data, would dumping everything in the program, programrating and programgenre table be the way to do it? |
| [19:53:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: ok. |
| [19:53:00] | beavis: | Beirdo: does chutt fix myth bugs for customers? |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | adante: I think so, and credits, or something like that maybe |
| [19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | beavis: He has a day job :) |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | beavis: I think he's doing his day job :) |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | unlike some of us freaks :) |
| [19:54:00] | beavis: | what is he working? |
| [19:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | He works for Nvidia |
| [19:54:00] | ** beavis doesn't want to ask non-dev Qs in #mythtv ;) ** | |
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| [19:55:00] | emes: | anyone got 0.18 working with arts? |
| [19:55:00] | beavis: | nvidia? driver development? |
| [19:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | beavis: No, not on the drivers. |
| [20:01:00] | adante: | Beirdo: thank you |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | adante: no problem |
| [20:02:00] | adante: | ok #2: my playback seems to be going faster than the recording. this makes it really hard to watch tv live while i'm recording it — i'm not currently using any of the fedangled time shifting unless it enables by default |
| [20:02:00] | adante: | sorry, time stretching i mean |
| [20:03:00] | adante: | does this happen for anybody else? is there anything I can do to stop it? |
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| [20:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, denoise3d really makes a nice improvement on some recordings |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | yep |
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| [20:14:00] | adante: | mythweb users: is there a way to stop mythweb from redirecting to my FQDN? I just want it to connect through the url I've given it and not try to be clever |
| [20:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | adante: That's morelikely apache |
| [20:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | since you don't actually tell mythweb the hostname when you install it :) |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is likely a "servername" set in apache and that is being sent back to the browser which is filling it in from then on |
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| [20:17:00] | adante: | GreyFoxx: ok, but why does this happen specifically for the mythweb page and not others (ie root) |
| [20:17:00] | adante: | ? |
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| [20:19:00] | beavis: | what's wrong with my mfe? i can't compile it. does it need an installed mfd? |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | adante: It could be that the mythweb references the SERVERNAME value and the others don't |
| [20:20:00] | adante: | GreyFoxx: ok, so back to original question :] |
| [20:22:00] | adante: | thing is, if i go to http://pveer/mythweb/program_listing.php, that works, and then i can access the basedir also |
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| [20:31:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why when im watching tv or a movie in mythtv some of the reds show up as green?. |
| [20:32:00] | CyberKnet: | bbiaf |
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| [20:41:00] | AndyCap: | ok, 0.17 -> 0.18 was fairly painless. :) |
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| [20:44:00] | fatmatt: | heyas |
| [20:44:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why when im watching tv or a movie in mythtv some of the reds show up as green?. |
| [20:45:00] | fatmatt: | do they flicker and change color back and forth or constant ly the wrong color |
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| [20:48:00] | Mrgoose: | FatDarrel: flicker |
| [20:48:00] | Mrgoose: | back and forth |
| [20:49:00] | fatmatt: | might be a hardware issue, loose monitor cable maybe... |
| [20:50:00] | fatmatt: | maybe try a search on your video card motherboard combo, see if there are issues, |
| [20:51:00] | fatmatt: | does it happen when the hard drive is working? Maybe check dma / irq settings, not so much for conflicts byt for best performance. |
| [20:53:00] | fatmatt: | and try playing the files on another pc, it could just be that the signal/reception isn't great and that part of the signal is being corrupted.. maybe |
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| [21:02:00] | cyberknet: | last time, I promise =) |
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| [21:05:00] | FatDarrel: | Mrgoose: what up ? |
| [21:05:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
| [21:05:00] | Mrgoose: | i meant fatmatt |
| [21:05:00] | Mrgoose: | i was tryin to figure out why the reds in mythtv flicker to green sometimes |
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| [21:09:00] | fatmatt: | adoes anyone know where I can get debian packages of 0.18? |
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| [21:20:00] | ** xris feels caffeinated. ** | |
| [21:21:00] | beavis: | fatmatt: I'll use make && make install until mdz makes the diffs ;) |
| [21:22:00] | ** Beirdo feels decaffeinated ** | |
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| [21:25:00] | mchou: | damn, I so relieved not to have to build a new kernel. |
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| [21:27:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: did that file transfer finish? I'd like to remove it from my webserver. |
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| [21:36:00] | cyberknet: | .win 2 |
| [21:36:00] | cyberknet: | gah |
| [21:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris: yeah, it's done, thanks. |
| [21:39:00] | defaultro: | xris, did you order air2pc? |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | defaultro: no, jarod's giving me one of his. |
| [21:41:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [21:41:00] | defaultro: | bbti lied to us :( |
| [21:41:00] | defaultro: | they said about a month ago that they were out of stock |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | ? |
| [21:41:00] | defaultro: | but now on their webpage, their old model is on ebay.com |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | and it's very cheap, half the price |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | i'm thinking of cancelling my preorder |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | hmm |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | new one works better with QAM, though. |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | that's true |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | or maybe they got some returned that they're selling as refurbs |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | that's what is preventing me to cancel it :) |
| [21:43:00] | defaultro: | yeah, that's what i mentioned earlier too |
| [21:43:00] | defaultro: | mchou was the one who told us about this |
| [21:43:00] | defaultro: | and it's true, it's on their website |
| [21:43:00] | cyberknet: | xris: Are there many north american cable companies that provide HD over cable but don't encrypt it that you know of? (QAM as I understand it) |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | nope |
| [21:44:00] | cyberknet: | is my understanding of QAM correct? |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | encrypted is still QAM |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | the data is just encrypted. |
| [21:44:00] | cyberknet: | but this card can't decode encrypted, right? |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | correct |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | as I understand, it'll just come in as garbage |
| [21:45:00] | cyberknet: | aaah. why can't they make one that takes a cablecard? =) |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | you'd have to ask dopester... but as I understand it, they just don't want to. |
| [21:45:00] | mchou: | because that defeats the whole purpose of the cablecard :) |
| [21:45:00] | cyberknet: | still, that wouldn't help me. The only HD signals from Cox are also via their "digital" |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | he tried to get them to do it. |
| [21:45:00] | mchou: | xris: get who? |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | cyberknet: QAM *is* digital |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | mchou: bbti |
| [21:46:00] | cyberknet: | xris: I am horribly uninformed |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | cyberknet: QAM is the protocol(?) used by digital cable. |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | something like that, anyway. |
| [21:46:00] | mchou: | xris: forget about it. bbti doesnt have resources to work on cablecard version. |
| [21:46:00] | cyberknet: | xris: I see. I was under the impression that cable cos all used different digital schemas. My bad =) |
| [21:47:00] | mchou: | QAM is a modulation scheme, not a protocol. |
| [21:47:00] | ** cyberknet watches his head implode ** | |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | cyberknet: something like that. I think that's related more to guide data, etc. mchou apparently knows more, though. |
| [21:48:00] | mchou: | virtually all cablecos in US use QAM for digital cable. |
| [21:48:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: thank you =) |
| [21:48:00] | mchou: | the encryption schemes may be different. |
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| [21:49:00] | mchou: | there is some question whether the FCC will let local stations be broadcast in the clear (over cable) |
| [21:50:00] | mchou: | If cablecos get their way, all digital channels including local will be encrypted...... |
| [21:51:00] | mchou: | rendering QAM on air2pc virtually useless :) |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | yup |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | which is why I will probably eventually just bite the bullet and hack my Dish signal with a dvb card. |
| [21:51:00] | mchou: | yeah.... |
| [21:51:00] | cyberknet: | Somewhere I heard it whispered that CableCard v1 and digital were incompatible, but I have to be honest and say I havent done any research to see if that is correct or not. |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | and use air2pc for local stuff. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | cyberknet: likely. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | since it's a different encryption scheme as far as the hardware is concerned. |
| [21:52:00] | cyberknet: | something about cablecard only supporting single direction communication. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | oh. dunno about that. that'd make it useless. |
| [21:52:00] | cyberknet: | I honestly dont know though. |
| [21:52:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: yup, that was cableco's complaint with cablecard v1 |
| [21:53:00] | cyberknet: | I didn't look into it because I a) dont have digital cable and b) don't have an HDTV set. |
| [21:53:00] | mchou: | I think all this crap is just more BS. |
| [21:53:00] | cyberknet: | and since c) it didn't look like I could get the hdtv content from my cable provider onto a myth box I didn't bother even trying to get an HDTV set. |
| [21:54:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: where do you live? |
| [21:54:00] | cyberknet: | Tulsa, OK. I am serviced by (or I service) Cox Communications. |
| [21:54:00] | cyberknet: | they will provide a digital box, so I guess I could take the audio/video out... but I was at a loss as to what to capture them with. |
| [21:54:00] | mchou: | hmm, you should be able to get local stations HDTV over cable. |
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| [21:55:00] | cyberknet: | I guess firewire would work. |
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| [21:55:00] | cyberknet: | I really should read more about this before saying too much though. I really hate to talk too much about things I am clueless about. |
| [21:55:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: even if you subscribe only to "basic" analog you should be able to get local HDTV stations over cable. |
| [21:56:00] | mchou: | but that YMMV :) |
| [21:56:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: now that is very interesting. |
| [21:56:00] | mchou: | hat's* |
| [21:56:00] | mchou: | that's* |
| [21:56:00] | cyberknet: | I can get a neighbors digital box to test that. |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | you dont need a "box" at all |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | you just need a receiver that's QAM capable. |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | hook that to your cable coax jack. |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | either you get it or you dont. |
| [21:58:00] | cyberknet: | I guess my neighbor's cable box would actually be hooked up with channels anyway, so it wouldn't be a helpful test. |
| [21:58:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: like I said, you dont need a box. |
| [21:58:00] | cyberknet: | Unfortunately, I dont have access to any other QAM cable receivers, so I wouldn't be able to test it right now. |
| [21:59:00] | mchou: | go down to a local circuit city :) |
| [21:59:00] | mchou: | pretend to be interested in their HDTV sets..... |
| [21:59:00] | cyberknet: | or a best buy with their 0 questions asked return policy =P" |
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| [22:00:00] | f0m0: | hello |
| [22:00:00] | mchou: | ask them if you could hook that up directly to cable and still get HDTV. |
| [22:00:00] | mchou: | BB has 15% restocking fee. |
| [22:00:00] | f0m0: | anyone here using MythStreamTV on Fedora Core 3? |
| [22:00:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: Aha. that's nice to know. |
| [22:00:00] | mchou: | dont get jack at BB. |
| [22:01:00] | mchou: | BB deserves to go out of business. |
| [22:01:00] | cyberknet: | Circuit City is better for returns? |
| [22:01:00] | f0m0: | BB = bestbuy? |
| [22:01:00] | cyberknet: | Best Buy has promised to do away with all rebates in under two years. |
| [22:01:00] | cyberknet: | which imho is pretty nice. But yeah, other than that.. total crap. |
| [22:01:00] | mchou: | CC also charges 15% (on certain items) |
| [22:01:00] | f0m0: | i like newegg.com for that kind of stuff |
| [22:01:00] | f0m0: | but returns are always a pain |
| [22:01:00] | cyberknet: | f0m0: newegg for a TV? |
| [22:01:00] | f0m0: | oh |
| [22:01:00] | f0m0: | hehe |
| [22:01:00] | f0m0: | well, yeah actually |
| [22:02:00] | mchou: | try getting a HDTV set shipped from Newegg. |
| [22:02:00] | f0m0: | they started carrying that stuff |
| [22:02:00] | f0m0: | but its mostly lcd stuff |
| [22:02:00] | mchou: | f0m0: I wouldnt want to pay shipping :) |
| [22:02:00] | f0m0: | yeah, depends, sometimes theres a deal |
| [22:02:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: So the plan would be to go to circuit city, find a tv set that can display hdtv without an additional receiver, purchase it as long as there is no 15% restocking fee, hook it up and see if I get any local channels... then return it if I don't desire to keep the tv? |
| [22:03:00] | f0m0: | lol |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | nono...dont buy anything. |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | just ask them at CC to hook it up to cable. |
| [22:03:00] | f0m0: | cyberknet, who's your cable provider? |
| [22:03:00] | cyberknet: | Cox Communications |
| [22:03:00] | f0m0: | where? |
| [22:03:00] | cyberknet: | Tulsa, Oklahoma |
| [22:04:00] | f0m0: | hold up a sec |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | you just wanna know what HDTV channels you can get w/cable |
| [22:04:00] | f0m0: | I'm 95% sure you need a box, most of them are making it digital |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | that's not encrypted. |
| [22:05:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: I see. And unless they have a high pass filter in place at my house, then it should still work. |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | tell them you want to test the AQM tuner on the TV...... |
| [22:05:00] | f0m0: | ah, right |
| [22:06:00] | f0m0: | thats what I was getting at, sorry |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: even if there is a hpf you may still get clear qam..... |
| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: to be sure that I didn't just make a huge faux pas, high pass filters generally block 100+, don't they? |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | if you get cable internet you know for sure there wont be hpf :) |
| [22:06:00] | f0m0: | BHN encrypts it all on the digital side |
| [22:06:00] | f0m0: | sux |
| [22:06:00] | cyberknet: | Yeah, I have cable internet. |
| [22:07:00] | cyberknet: | I was pretty sure I didn't hae a hpf |
| [22:07:00] | cyberknet: | I tried to merge a channel in up high, and there was a ton of interference. up too high, and my internet started very much sucking =) |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | comcast is starting to stop putting those things on, too. at least out here. |
| [22:08:00] | cyberknet: | xris: the high pass filters? |
| [22:08:00] | mchou: | lol, just remove them. they're silly. |
| [22:08:00] | f0m0: | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php . . . cox+tulsa+ok is a good place to ask the specifics |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | mchou: sometimes they put them inside the box that you're not legally allowed to touch (or some crap like that) |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | cyberknet: yes. |
| [22:09:00] | cyberknet: | xris: here they put them "up the pole" |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [22:09:00] | mchou: | oohh, nasty. |
| [22:09:00] | cyberknet: | xris: And removing it would constitute signal theft. |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | yup |
| [22:10:00] | cyberknet: | But I dont have one because I have cable internet. |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [22:10:00] | f0m0: | yeah, you should be good |
| [22:10:00] | cyberknet: | I have a notch filter to block HBO, Stars and Encore, and a low pass filter to block 30->60-something. |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | when we got stuff installed here at work, the guy said that they don't even bother putting them on anymore since it's more work to remove them later when people want internet (or digital, or whatever) |
| [22:10:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: yeah, same here. |
| [22:11:00] | cyberknet: | I just have basic basic cable. |
| [22:11:00] | cyberknet: | and I only pay $2 / month for it after a $10 discount for having cable internet. |
| [22:11:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: lol, I have basic "limited" |
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| [22:11:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: what you total cable bill/mo.? |
| [22:11:00] | mchou: | what's* |
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| [22:14:00] | xris: | man, basic cable here is still like $35 on top of internet. |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | plus taxes. |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | $43 |
| [22:14:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: on the order of $57 |
| [22:14:00] | mchou: | xris: in WA you get ripped. |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | mchou: which is why I have Dish. |
| [22:14:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: hmm, steep. |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | used to be the same price as analog cable, now it's about $8/month less. even after Dish raised their prices. |
| [22:15:00] | cyberknet: | xris: "basic cable" that I am talking about is pretty much OTA signals plus a few crap (Religious or HSN-like) thrown in |
| [22:15:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: 4 megabit down, 512k up |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | cyberknet: ah. |
| [22:15:00] | kormoc: | ya, that's $26 a month for basic cable. |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: same here. |
| [22:15:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: congrats on a good deal then =) |
| [22:15:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: what do you pay? |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | about $30 (not incl taxes) |
| [22:16:00] | cyberknet: | wow. sweet deal. |
| [22:16:00] | cyberknet: | good for you. |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | $20/internet, $10 basic limited. |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | which are just channels <30. |
| [22:16:00] | ** kormoc smacks mchou with a trout and steals his inet. ** | |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | cable inet, 4/768 is $45/month, basic cable is $26/month |
| [22:17:00] | mchou: | that's a rip. |
| [22:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | bah |
| [22:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | cable |
| [22:18:00] | kormoc: | you don't say |
| [22:18:00] | cyberknet: | [Klatuu]: I'd rather have cable than dsl. |
| [22:19:00] | cyberknet: | at least if i have cable I can ditch my phone line, and get voip and pay *nothing* to the local bastard telco. ;) |
| [22:19:00] | cyberknet: | I may pay too much because I am with vonage, but that's a different issue. =) |
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| [22:19:00] | kormoc: | just pay to the local bastard cable co |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | kormoc: I dont know why in WA you guys get ripped so bad. I guest Qwest/verizon doesnt bother to compete via DSL.... |
| [22:19:00] | kormoc: | verizon is $30 a month for 3/768 dsl |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | which is hy inet prices are so low here. |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | hy* |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | why* |
| [22:20:00] | kormoc: | but in Seatac, where I am, it's qwest only, and qwest is quite a but more |
| [22:20:00] | cyberknet: | mchou: for what it's worth, I've never seen such a good deal for cable internet as what you are getting. |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | lol.... |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | mchou: phone and cable "zones" out here are f'd up. and it's all overpriced. |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: http://comcastoffers.com/c/1/51439/_/_/efb2b9 . . . 88f8952a9f1/ |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | I pay extra for speakeasy dsl, and imho it's worth it. but it's definitely not cheap. |
| [22:21:00] | GeckoFiend: | o_cee around? |
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| [22:21:00] | mchou: | cyberknet: "renew" every six months :) |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | not valid for my area... |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | offer only valid in select areas |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | mchou: good for new customers only, I bet. |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | xris: not true, I "renew" all the time :) |
| [22:22:00] | xris: | lol |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | which is why my inet is $20 :) |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | otherwise inet will be $45 (why pay retail?) |
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| [22:23:00] | cyberknet: | and by "renew" do you mean "cancel my cable internet, then re-order it"? |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | no, you dont need to cancel. |
| [22:24:00] | cyberknet: | oh. sweet. |
| [22:24:00] | cyberknet: | too bad comcast isn't in Tulsa =) |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | you just sign up again. |
| [22:24:00] | kormoc: | yes, this is mchou the 12th ordering cable inet, yes I know mchou the 11th just was a customer, but this is a new customer |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | kormoc: exactly :) |
| [22:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | /msg o_cee http://www.jdonavan.net/playbackbox_preview.jpg |
| [22:25:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | oops |
| [22:25:00] | mchou: | or if you have spouse/gf just round robin accts :) |
| [22:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | lol |
| [22:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | oh well |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | well, I guess it's public knowledge now. :) |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: hmm, nice :) |
| [22:26:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: now to convince the rest of the devs that the "details" flag really needs to be flipped by default so that the stupid blue bar only shows up when that side is focused. |
| [22:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou not my work byt thanks. That's jams working with an artist |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: you watch too much tv :) |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | that's pretty nice |
| [22:29:00] | stoffel: | i like it |
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| [22:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou I don't watch enough TV that's why there's so many recordings there. |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | hehe.... |
| [22:32:00] | GeckoFiend: | only shows I watch are: lost, boston legal, desp. housewives and south park really |
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| [22:32:00] | mchou: | lol. |
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| [22:32:00] | mchou: | that's too much tv already :) |
| [22:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | oh forgot deadwood |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | damn! |
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| [22:34:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: when does the new season of sopranos start? |
| [22:34:00] | GeckoFiend: | soon I think. |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | gonna have to gear up for that..... |
| [22:40:00] | Cromz: | i(16:24:25) cyberknet: too bad comcast isn't in Tulsa =) *gripes.. and okie.. *snicker* |
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| [22:45:00] | dhofstra: | deadwood is great, but did you notice it is getting harder and harder to follow the banter |
| [22:45:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah |
| [22:45:00] | GeckoFiend: | ok... I'm not noramlly one for star trek humor but... http://darthside.blogspot.com/ is pretty spiffy |
| [22:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | errr star WARS |
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| [22:51:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: very secret diaries of Legolas are probably funnier. heh. |
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| [23:00:00] | joshebel: | Hello all.. |
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| [23:05:00] | dopester: | cyberknet: discoveryhd and tnthd are fta here as well as my locals on cable |
| [23:05:00] | dopester: | but everything else is encrypted |
| [23:06:00] | A_: | atleast you get the hd version of those channels fta |
| [23:06:00] | dopester: | whatever is being piped digitally to the cable company from the locals is fta |
| [23:07:00] | dopester: | for example the cbs station here sends what they send over the air and a seperate feed of their analog |
| [23:07:00] | dopester: | so i get all that |
| [23:07:00] | A_: | do they just reencapsulate the atsc streaems to dvb-c or whatever the hell digital cable standard we have in NA? |
| [23:07:00] | A_: | or is it still atsc |
| [23:08:00] | dopester: | its atsc over cable qam modulated as far as i know |
| [23:09:00] | dopester: | it follows the atsc specs including the guide is optional part :) |
| [23:15:00] | CygnusX1: | Is anyone running two PVR 500s? |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'll show you optional! |
| [23:18:00] | ** Beirdo beats bbti with a trout ** | |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | ship cards, damn you! |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | I might actually consider buying one off them on ebay (old stock) |
| [23:19:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you'd think they would have sold those out earlier. |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, sounds like it was a returned shipment from some store that couldn't sell them |
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| [23:28:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Considering the demand, you wouldn't have thought that the store would have been able to "not sell them", would you? |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | depends |
| [23:28:00] | cyberknet: | still, better for the consumer that they are half price. |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | if nobody knows about said store... |
| [23:28:00] | cyberknet: | true enough |
| [23:28:00] | cyberknet: | the store may have been asking way too much for them too |
| [23:28:00] | cyberknet: | though I think they likely could have gotten way too much for them if they were well known. |
| [23:29:00] | cyberknet: | a well worded adsense ad linked to keyword air2pc would have yeilded them some nice business though =) |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:29:00] | cyberknet: | something to let people know "Nope, this isn't one of those buy XXX from ebay auto ads" |
| [23:32:00] | cyberknet: | bbl |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | seeya |
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| [23:55:00] | xris: | w00t. making pdf's is fun with php! :) |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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