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| [00:04:00] | Agrajag-: | how come when i enable myth cutlist, instead of doing --honourcutlist for mythtranscode, nuvexport does --skip for transcode? |
| [00:05:00] | Beirdo: | because it works better? |
| [00:06:00] | Agrajag-: | fair enough |
| [00:06:00] | Agrajag-: | seems strange though – it seems to take longer if there's lots of cut out bits |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | I think that's why |
| [00:06:00] | ** xris remembers that he was listening to music awhile ago... ** | |
| [00:06:00] | ** j3_ remembers that he *still* hates his job today... ** | |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | :( |
| [00:07:00] | j3_: | email is the bane of my existence |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:07:00] | ** Beirdo pours out a glass of rhubarb wine ** | |
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| [00:07:00] | xris: | j3_: do you do consulting outside of work? |
| [00:07:00] | j3_: | yeah, though I haven't had much time for it lately |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | like if maybe simech wanted to pay you to set up a groupware suite like OX? |
| [00:08:00] | j3_: | I can dig it |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | ok. didn't want to offer your services without checking. |
| [00:08:00] | j3_: | :) |
| [00:08:00] | NightMonkey: | xris is a kind pimp. |
| [00:08:00] | NightMonkey: | ;) |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | our new "IT guy" (dunno what to call him yet) is just settling in, but that's one of the things he'll have to do. might be easier to have someone do it who has done it before. |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | NightMonkey: dam straight. |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | damn, even. |
| [00:09:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: :) |
| [00:09:00] | j3_: | I've set it up a few times now, not bad once you know where you're going |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: don't forget to give the pimp his cut |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | figured |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | speaking of which, kormoc still owes me $35 from this weekend... |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | good thing he gets paid in a few days. |
| [00:11:00] | xris: | nevermind, he just paid his dues. :) |
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| [00:13:00] | j3_: | xris: you guys want the fully monty, complete with maia mailguard for anti-spam/av, or is that handled elsewhere? |
| [00:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:14:00] | xris: | j3_: I don't think they've even decided on a package yet. |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | our guys love spam. |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | the one dude gets cases of it! |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | lol, you think you're guys do... |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | your guys |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | j3_: he's talking about the actual pig-based spam. |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | ew |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | not sure which is worse... |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | lol |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | okay, no, today, I say the email kind (since I'm up to my neck in it...) |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | ick |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | I've heard of a good way to stop it completely. |
| [00:16:00] | j3_: | change jobs? |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | turn off your MX record for a week. |
| [00:16:00] | j3_: | oh, that won't help my case... |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | won't help me, either. |
| [00:16:00] | j3_: | (wouldn't be an option either) |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | although I guess I could move my mail to another domain for awhile. |
| [00:17:00] | j3_: | my home account gets next to nothing |
| [00:17:00] | j3_: | despite having the address published all over |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | heh. mine gets tons. I've had the same email address since 1995 |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | I even get typo spam. |
| [00:17:00] | j3_: | haven't had mine quite as long, but a few years |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | xrisxris@ (started around 1996, someone fat-fingered it typing into a list) |
| [00:18:00] | j3_: | :( |
| [00:18:00] | ** j3_ uses maia mailguard at home, works wonders w/a well-trained bayesian db ** | |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | I'm down to about 25/day now that get through my hard blocks. SA catches most of them, and thunderbird catches most of the rest. |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | I don't know about maia. |
| [00:18:00] | ** xris goes off to google ** | |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | DAMN... this rhubarb wine is so good |
| [00:18:00] | j3_: | http://www.maiamailguard.com/ |
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| [00:19:00] | j3_: | web-based frontend to amavisd-new |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | looks handy |
| [00:19:00] | j3_: | which in turn (in my case) uses spamassassin and clamav (and black/white lists) |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | Beirdo: send me some. the stuff I bought was rather nasty. |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:19:00] | j3_: | (and some other stuff) |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | you come up here :) |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | j3_: I ran amavisd for awhile. need to get -new set up. doesn't play nicely with courier out of the box, though. |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | and you have to let it air a bit |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | breathe rather |
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| [00:20:00] | ** Beirdo slaps himself ** | |
| [00:20:00] | j3_: | courier for smtp? |
| [00:20:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: You tried DSPAM? |
| [00:20:00] | xris: | j3_: for everything, yes. |
| [00:20:00] | j3_: | haven't ever got around to dspam, heard good things about it, but I like maia quite a bit |
| [00:20:00] | xris: | our former sysadmin came from Real, and they settled on courier for its speed (nothing else could handle their load) |
| [00:21:00] | j3_: | you could do -new in a dual-mta setup, would work fine w/courier |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | postfix can :) |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:21:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: So far, it's pretty nifty. I'm building it into a postfix mail gateway, fronting an internal Exchange host. |
| [00:21:00] | j3_: | yeah, was gonna say, I can show you some MONSTER postfix send rates... |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | it it can handle our load at work, it can for them |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | it's easy to set up, but not popular enough for mainstream programs to pick up support for it. |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | Beirdo: courier is like 2–3x faster than postfix. |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | or something like that. |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | we push > 1M messages a day on each server |
| [00:21:00] | j3_: | feh |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | * 6 servers |
| [00:21:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: The business people like the pretty, pretty graphs. |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | I'm guessing that RN just didn't want to buy new machines. |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | with delay of about 5s max |
| [00:22:00] | j3_: | yeah, they do, that's what we have zabbix for |
| [00:22:00] | ** j3_ counting send servers in head... ** | |
| [00:22:00] | j3_: | 12 send servers, each pushing out roughly 1mm/day |
| [00:22:00] | xris: | I'd like to be able to think about switching to postfix, but have too many users with courier userdb passwords set up. |
| [00:22:00] | j3_: | all postfix |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | j3_: yes, but is that relaying or sending? |
| [00:22:00] | j3_: | the limiting factor is spindle speed |
| [00:22:00] | j3_: | sending |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | ours is relaying for customers |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | which is a bit rougher (but not much) |
| [00:23:00] | j3_: | and another 7 for bounce processing |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
| [00:23:00] | j3_: | and another few for relay |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | naughty spamming bastards :) |
| [00:23:00] | j3_: | pretty much |
| [00:23:00] | j3_: | :( |
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| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | ah well, it gets you paid |
| [00:24:00] | j3_: | yeah... |
| [00:24:00] | j3_: | ah, and technically, really not much difference between "relaying" and "sending" in this case, since all the mails originate from java app servers, which relay them out through the send servers |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | true enough |
| [00:26:00] | j3_: | actually, if it were being done in a naughty fashion, I woulda bailed long ago |
| [00:26:00] | j3_: | its high standards, but definitely still a slimey feel... |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | take that spam money just long enough to get a better job |
| [00:26:00] | j3_: | exactamundo |
| [00:26:00] | j3_: | took the job for the data center, enterprise-level experience I wasn't getting at the software dev house I was at before |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | Man does rhubarb wine ever not really taste like rhubarb :) |
| [00:27:00] | j3_: | started exactly a year ago |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:27:00] | j3_: | VERY ready for something else... |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | how's the options looking right now? |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Metallica – The Call of Ktulu |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | not totally hosing you today? |
| [00:27:00] | j3_: | took a turn up yesterday, then went even further south today |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | I so hate options |
| [00:27:00] | xris: | Beirdo: the stuff I got does. |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | xris: really? |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | WTF did they do to it |
| [00:28:00] | j3_: | we'll see how the earnings call goes in a few days... |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | this stuff's about the color of peach flesh or so... |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | and has a nuance of rhubarb, but only slight |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | but is definitely wine :) |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | and I removed the oxalic acid |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | (precipitated chalk) |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | that might be the difference |
| [00:30:00] | xris: | could be |
| [00:31:00] | ** xris broke trac. :( ** | |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | bad xris. |
| [00:31:00] | j3_: | no biscuit |
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| [00:31:00] | j3_: | never remove the oxalic acid from trac |
| [00:32:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:32:00] | xris: | something in the latest devel tree, can't accept/close tickets. |
| [00:32:00] | xris: | and backing down doesn't help |
| [00:32:00] | j3_: | aol subscribers are most certainly the most brain-dead computer users on the planet... |
| [00:32:00] | Beirdo: | It's a royal bitch to rack off the precipitated chalk |
| [00:32:00] | Beirdo: | took about 3 rackings before it was all gone |
| [00:33:00] | dhofstra: | so, I have sucessfully ./configure, make and make install mythplugins. now mythfrontend segfaults and I think it may be mythphone. Can I remake the beast (excluding mythphone) easily, or do I have to start all over? |
| [00:33:00] | ** j3_ would rather be racking the balls on the pool table in my basement right now... ** | |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | it's such a fine powder that it would kick up with no provocation at all |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | j3_: winemaking is fun stuff. and you get such nice results |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | or meadmaking, eh, xris? |
| [00:34:00] | j3_: | so is methmaking... |
| [00:34:00] | j3_: | er, wait... |
| [00:34:00] | j3_: | :) |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:34:00] | j3_: | some day when I have time... |
| [00:34:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yes. |
| [00:34:00] | j3_: | (i.e., never) |
| [00:34:00] | kormoc: | You'll lead a international terroristic drug ring? |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't take that much time to do wine making |
| [00:35:00] | j3_: | Seems the only logical thing to do. |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | it's quite spread out :) |
| [00:35:00] | kormoc: | j3_, makes perfect sense, it does. |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | day 1 is a bit painful |
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| [00:35:00] | j3_: | I need to stop spending 10hr/wk in the car is what I need to do, then I could start that drug ring... |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | day 7–14 (depending on the must) is a bit of trouble |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | after that it's pretty easy |
| [00:36:00] | j3_: | the "must"? |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | that's the stuff that's fermenting |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | the must is the skanky stuff. |
| [00:36:00] | j3_: | ah |
| [00:36:00] | j3_: | that's what I was thinking... |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and it HAS to be well ventilated :) |
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| [00:36:00] | j3_: | I have some musty clothes in the hamper... |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | the jalapeno wine made my eyes water for the first 2 weeks every time I went into the can |
| [00:37:00] | dhofstra: | yup, it was mythphone segfaulting my frontend; I just went into the mythplugins/mythphone/mythphone dir and 'make uninstall' hope that's ok to do |
| [00:37:00] | j3_: | jalapeno wine? cool... |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | it's pretty strong stuff :) |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | I made it primarily for making chili |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | and for the hell of it |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | the rhubarb was the fussiest to get done though |
| [00:38:00] | j3_: | xris: maybe we have an email for your wife... "Love to cook? Check out these culinary careers!" |
| [00:38:00] | xris: | kormoc thinks my habanero mead is mild. |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | all that frigging chalk solution |
| [00:38:00] | xris: | j3_: lol |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc's obviously a nutcase :) |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [00:39:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [00:39:00] | ** j3_ loves the hot stuff ** | |
| [00:39:00] | Moc: | Ive being trying to find some info about the WinTV PVR 350. Can I use the Output capability of this card with MythTV ? |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | he wants to go to Dixie's BBQ and have 4+ spoonfuls of "the man" |
| [00:39:00] | Beirdo: | not that there's anything wrong with being a nutcase |
| [00:39:00] | j3_: | mocker: yes |
| [00:39:00] | j3_: | haven't been |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | Moc: yes |
| [00:39:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here using knoppmyth can help me out with what drive letter my cdrom drive is? |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | j3_: not vegetarian, so I haven't, either. |
| [00:39:00] | j3_: | wtf, where did that ker come from... |
| [00:40:00] | Moc: | so the OSD of MythTV will show on the output of the of the PVR350 ? |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:40:00] | j3_: | yes |
| [00:40:00] | j3_: | I like really, really, really, really spicy thai food |
| [00:40:00] | j3_: | panang beef curry |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | I love hot foods, but I have no need for chemical burns |
| [00:40:00] | kormoc: | Mmm... Curry... |
| [00:40:00] | Moc: | so I can run Mame also from the output of the pvr350 ? ;) |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | the heat should enhance the flavour, not BE the flavour |
| [00:41:00] | j3_: | wuss |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | no, I just enjoy tasting stuff |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:41:00] | j3_: | :p |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, I had some Da Bomb, ground zero hot sause, it was 234,000 scoville, I dabbed it on my tounge and it didn't cause any chemical burns, so no bad. |
| [00:41:00] | iggy: | Moc: probably not, the tvout is ridiculously slow |
| [00:42:00] | iggy: | but they seem to be making some headway, so maybe some day |
| [00:42:00] | xris: | yay, trac author is going to fix my bug. :) |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: yeah, but your tongue is teflon coated |
| [00:42:00] | j3_: | one does build up a tolerance to the spice, so you can still taste... |
| [00:42:00] | xris: | I mean, my habanero mead is good, but it's quite hot. |
| [00:42:00] | xris: | wonder how you measure scoville |
| [00:42:00] | xris: | I'm not about to spray 90k squirts of sugar water on my tongue. |
| [00:43:00] | j3_: | wearing an edgar suit |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | xris: good flavour + hot? |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | I had a thai curry last week that was just excellent |
| [00:43:00] | xris: | Beirdo: flavor is decent. I need not to include the seeds next time. |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | they called it "mid-hot" |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | it was pretty mild |
| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | and with the coconut milk in it. YUM |
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| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | the stirfry my mom had was hotter |
| [00:45:00] | xris: | hmm... High performance liquid chromatography. sounds complicated |
| [00:45:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Jamiroquai – Emergency on Planet Earth |
| [00:45:00] | j3_: | eh? |
| [00:46:00] | j3_: | I hate out of office replies with a passion... |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | especially on mailing lists |
| [00:47:00] | j3_: | especially when they're cluttering up my damned ticketing system |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | that too |
| [00:47:00] | j3_: | and people are too retarded to use anything standard |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | of course |
| [00:48:00] | xris: | heh |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | ah crap, they turned off the chilled water |
| [00:48:00] | j3_: | I hate marketing. |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | turned it off yesterday it seems |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | https://www2.beirdo.ca/cacti/graph.php?local_ . . . p;rra_id=all |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | can tell from the CPU temp :) |
| [00:49:00] | xris: | j3_: you see the pics from this weekend? |
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| [00:50:00] | j3_: | pics? what pics? |
| [00:50:00] | xris: | http://vanir-lag.org/gallery/Spring-RPP-2005 |
| [00:51:00] | j3_: | is that medieval baseball?!? |
| [00:51:00] | j3_: | :) |
| [00:51:00] | j3_: | cool |
| [00:52:00] | Beirdo: | xris: I noticed a distinct lack of pictures of you :) |
| [00:52:00] | ** Beirdo whips open the sliding door to outside ** | |
| [00:53:00] | j3_: | couldn't tell if maybe that was xris on the bow... |
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| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, seems a little short :) |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | no, no pics of me by me |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | there are a couple of me from Malekith |
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| [00:54:00] | dhofstra: | ok, last thing: I am seeing alot of these messages on my new 0.18 frontend I built.. anything you would worry about? "QSettings::sync: filename is null/empty" |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | shoulda let kormoc take pics :) |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | Ahh, I didn't see those ones yet :) |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | so is that gonna be a permanent village you guys built? |
| [00:56:00] | j3_: | don't camp on whidbey in april is all I can say... |
| [00:56:00] | xris: | Beirdo: it's headed that way. |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | that's cool, xris :) |
| [00:57:00] | xris: | can't build permanent structures (with roofs/walls), but we can come close. |
| [00:57:00] | j3_: | at least not with a 2 year old and a prego wife |
| [00:57:00] | xris: | oops |
| [00:57:00] | xris: | j3_: I'll let you know when there's a local event. sca isn't quite as fun as my other group of friends, but it's still pretty good. |
| [00:58:00] | j3_: | cool |
| [00:59:00] | jemarcks: | live tv hangs after 2 sec. no audio. |
| [01:00:00] | j3_: | heh, the opera ad bar is showing viking jewelry ads. Minnesota Vikings, to be exact... |
| [01:01:00] | jemarcks: | hi Cromz |
| [01:02:00] | Cromz: | howdy :) |
| [01:02:00] | xris: | heh |
| [01:02:00] | ** Cromz dances cause all myth issues seems to be gone for me.. and running .18 ** | |
| [01:02:00] | jemarcks: | hey cromz, when i select livetv, it hangs after 2 sec and there isnt any audio. |
| [01:03:00] | Cromz: | huh |
| [01:03:00] | jemarcks: | i get a great picture when i use mplayer reading /dev/video0 |
| [01:04:00] | Cromz: | ok.. hmmm hmm what card you using and huh ivtv or bttv .. huh hehe |
| [01:04:00] | ** kormoc leaves ** | |
| [01:04:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [01:04:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, im using a pvr150, and a SiS intel8x0 onboard sound. ivtv |
| [01:05:00] | j3_: | only thing I'll miss about this place (*if* I get another job...) is the view |
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| [01:05:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, sound works when i play a .wav file using mplay |
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| [01:05:00] | ** j3_ gazes out over elliot bay and lake union ** | |
| [01:06:00] | Cromz: | does the sound work when you play the /dev/video0? |
| [01:07:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, no it doesnt. im connected to a DTV reciver svideo and audio cables to my line in |
| [01:07:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i was reading the list and found some say that i should set the mixer to 'default' in mythfroneend setup |
| [01:07:00] | jemarcks: | that didnt work |
| [01:07:00] | jemarcks: | what do you have yours set to? |
| [01:08:00] | j3_: | 'default' is for native alsa |
| [01:08:00] | Cromz: | default :/ |
| [01:08:00] | j3_: | '/dev/mixer' is typical for oss or alsa-via-oss-emu |
| [01:08:00] | Cromz: | I use a pvr350 |
| [01:08:00] | Cromz: | tuner. |
| [01:08:00] | jemarcks: | im using alsa |
| [01:08:00] | jemarcks: | <- following jarods guide |
| [01:09:00] | j3_: | if you get no sound from playing /dev/video0, you need to look somewhere along the line before myth |
| [01:09:00] | j3_: | chances are you simply aren't recording audio |
| [01:09:00] | j3_: | the 150s are a bit finicky w/svid still |
| [01:10:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: btw, this is Jarod again, just a different (finally registered) nick today. :) |
| [01:10:00] | Cromz: | Jarod is hiding :) |
| [01:10:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:10:00] | jemarcks: | hi Jarod. :) |
| [01:11:00] | j3_: | Hey, it shows my Real Name if you get more info about me. :) |
| [01:11:00] | j3_: | howdy |
| [01:11:00] | jemarcks: | hey, i got a little progress today man. i can play audio with mplay. i cant get great video from the svideo input using mplayer |
| [01:12:00] | Cromz: | the only experance with myth and hardware are with the pvr350 and a ati tv wonder ve. |
| [01:12:00] | jemarcks: | but when i run mythfrontend and livetv, i get about 2–3 sec of live tv and then it hangs. no audio. |
| [01:12:00] | j3_: | I think I have like a dozen different capture cards now... |
| [01:12:00] | jemarcks: | a hardware geek lol |
| [01:12:00] | Cromz: | I know with the tv wonder, I had to mess with the alsa settings like turning 'line-in' as record and turning the mic off and a few other things. |
| [01:12:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: I'd stick with just /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp for the moment |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | ok |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | no 'default' huh? |
| [01:13:00] | j3_: | make sure you've got the alsa oss-compat modules loaded though |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | huh? |
| [01:13:00] | j3_: | native alsa isn't always easy to set up |
| [01:13:00] | j3_: | lsmod | grep oss |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | i just installed what you guide said to |
| [01:13:00] | j3_: | should have snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss loaded |
| [01:14:00] | j3_: | Do I say default in there somewhere? (off to re-read...) |
| [01:14:00] | ** j3_ is way behind on updates, as usual... ** | |
| [01:14:00] | jemarcks: | where is lsmod? |
| [01:14:00] | Cromz: | in /bin |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | uh uhh |
| [01:15:00] | j3_: | /sbin |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | bash: /bin/lsmod: No such file or directory |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | [root@htpc1 mythtv]# |
| [01:15:00] | Cromz: | oops |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | [root@htpc1 mythtv]# /sbin/lsmod | grep oss |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | snd_pcm_oss 49952 0 |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | snd_mixer_oss 17408 1 snd_pcm_oss |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | snd_pcm 97416 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | snd 53860 6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | [root@htpc1 mythtv]# |
| [01:15:00] | Cromz: | your right Jarod. see I am the wrong person to ask for help LOL |
| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | ah hah |
| [01:16:00] | j3_: | hey, we all make mistakes. :) |
| [01:16:00] | jemarcks: | :) |
| [01:16:00] | jemarcks: | sooooo... whats wrong here |
| [01:16:00] | j3_: | by all means, please keep helping! |
| [01:16:00] | j3_: | do you have those modules loaded? |
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| [01:17:00] | j3_: | (just trying to eliminate all possible points of failure) |
| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ yes |
| [01:17:00] | j3_: | k, then set /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp for your output stuff, just for simplicity's sake |
| [01:18:00] | jemarcks: | j3_, thats what they were set to by default |
| [01:18:00] | j3_: | yeah |
| [01:18:00] | j3_: | ah, so you mean that's what they're at already... |
| [01:18:00] | j3_: | ok |
| [01:19:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ yeah. when i went to check after reading the archives about it. i would feel better if my live tv video wouldnt hang. |
| [01:19:00] | j3_: | are recordings working? |
| [01:19:00] | jemarcks: | didnt try that |
| [01:19:00] | jemarcks: | could they? |
| [01:20:00] | j3_: | not sure |
| [01:20:00] | jemarcks: | would it help in debugging if we knew that recordings and playback worked? |
| [01:20:00] | jemarcks: | i wouldnt think it would work |
| [01:20:00] | j3_: | I'd at least try a recording, just to see |
| [01:21:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... ok. ill schedule one quick |
| [01:21:00] | j3_: | less going on that way |
| [01:21:00] | jemarcks: | mythweb works. :) |
| [01:21:00] | ** j3_ should try watching live TV again one of these days... ** | |
| [01:22:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ ok, i grabed a show to record that will be over in 6 min. |
| [01:22:00] | jemarcks: | hehe |
| [01:22:00] | jemarcks: | i have to get livetv to work for the wife test ;) |
| [01:23:00] | jemarcks: | i still have to try the remote and then set up a channel changer for the DTV box |
| [01:23:00] | j3_: | I never watch anything live through myth, just no need |
| [01:23:00] | j3_: | Everything I care to watch is recorded, never have had the desire to pause anything I'd watch live |
| [01:23:00] | jemarcks: | i agree. ill get there |
| [01:24:00] | jemarcks: | well the wife and kids will try everything out so it better work solid |
| [01:24:00] | j3_: | my wife gets on me if we watch any commercials too (when watching recordings) |
| [01:24:00] | Cromz: | LOL |
| [01:24:00] | j3_: | Its funny, because I reach for the remote to fast-forward whenever commercials come on w/live TV too |
| [01:24:00] | jemarcks: | hehe |
| [01:24:00] | j3_: | About all I watch live anymore is sports |
| [01:25:00] | jemarcks: | hey, on a side note... i have 2 linux boxes on my home network. both run a webserver. one is my myth box. how can i access from work and get either one? or can i? |
| [01:25:00] | Cromz: | sport? blech.. I never was one for sports.. :> |
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| [01:26:00] | j3_: | sports payed for my college education :) |
| [01:26:00] | jemarcks: | should i just run both websites on the myth box? |
| [01:26:00] | NightMonkey: | jemarcks: Go get a BEFSR11 and port forward? |
| [01:26:00] | j3_: | assuming you only have one IP, just make them run on different ports |
| [01:26:00] | jemarcks: | huh? hmm... ill have to read up on that first |
| [01:26:00] | Cromz: | ahh.. I don't have a college edumacation |
| [01:26:00] | jemarcks: | ah.. .ok |
| [01:27:00] | NightMonkey: | jemarcks: A Linksys BEFSR11 DSL/Cable "Router" |
| [01:27:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. one IP on a cable modem and a dlink router |
| [01:27:00] | jemarcks: | ahso.. i know how to set that up then |
| [01:27:00] | jemarcks: | cool |
| [01:27:00] | j3_: | actually, they could both be port 80 or 443 internally, but forward 80/443 to one, and something else to the other |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks: | when you look at a recording schedule on myth web and it shows you a picture next to the title, is that a video frame from the show being recorded? |
| [01:28:00] | ** j3_ doesn't like Linksys routers that much, prefers a more featureful solution... ** | |
| [01:29:00] | j3_: | should be, yeah |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks: | cool, well the little picture look crystal clear |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ looks like its recording dude |
| [01:29:00] | j3_: | cool |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | ill go play it back and see how it work. |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | works |
| [01:30:00] | j3_: | so maybe there's a ringbuffer issue |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | huh? if you say so. lol |
| [01:30:00] | j3_: | got read/write perms on your live TV buffer dir? |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | [root@htpc1 mythtv]# ll /video |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | total 0 |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 6 Apr 26 18:48 buffer |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 123 Apr 26 19:27 recordings |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks: | yep |
| [01:31:00] | j3_: | And you're running the fe as the user mythtv, I presume? |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ yes, it auto starts. |
| [01:31:00] | j3_: | huh... |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | hey, when i click on the picture next to a recorded show, i get garbage on the browser |
| [01:33:00] | j3_: | launch the frontend from a terminal window with 'mythfrontend -v all' |
| [01:33:00] | jemarcks: | ok... hang on |
| [01:33:00] | j3_: | yeah, your browser doesn't understand the .nuv mime type or some such thing (xris can explain that one better) |
| [01:33:00] | xris: | jemarcks: look at the included .htaccess file |
| [01:34:00] | xris: | and make sure that apache is configured such that those commands will actually work (read the README) |
| [01:34:00] | j3_: | man, I wish I had your commute... |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | j3_: :) but you have a nicer house. |
| [01:35:00] | j3_: | I never get to see it tho. :) |
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| [01:36:00] | xris: | weekends? ;) |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | heh, yeah, sometimes... |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | actually, this past weekend was great, first really relaxing one I've had where I actually stayed home for all of it |
| [01:36:00] | j3_: | I'm in Bellingham this upcoming weekend |
| [01:37:00] | j3_: | (got asked to speak at LinuxFest NorthWest) |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | nice |
| [01:37:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ hey. it recorded great! the picture was super. No sound however. The wife said 'cool!' |
| [01:37:00] | j3_: | lol |
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| [01:37:00] | j3_: | progress... |
| [01:38:00] | jemarcks: | yeah... now i jusut need sound and live tv |
| [01:38:00] | j3_: | which reminds me, I also got talked into going on the LinuxLink tech show |
| [01:38:00] | j3_: | I think... yeah, that's tomorrow... |
| [01:38:00] | jemarcks: | interesting |
| [01:38:00] | j3_: | refresh my memory: did your mplayer tests have audio? |
| [01:38:00] | Agrajag-: | does about 20fps for transcoding to xvid on a p4 2.8ghz sound about right (bit rate 960 – not variable, 640x356) |
| [01:39:00] | xris: | j3_: sounds busy. |
| [01:39:00] | j3_: | a wee bit... |
| [01:39:00] | xris: | I'm just trying to find time to paint my deck. heh. |
| [01:39:00] | j3_: | plus that trip to Mountain View next week... |
| [01:39:00] | jemarcks: | cool |
| [01:39:00] | j3_: | I'm taking my wife and kid up to Bham w/me |
| [01:39:00] | jemarcks: | i havent been there in years |
| [01:39:00] | xris: | she's off work for kids, right? |
| [01:39:00] | j3_: | yup |
| [01:39:00] | xris: | that's nice. |
| [01:40:00] | j3_: | she hasn't worked full time in over a year |
| [01:40:00] | xris: | mine hasn't ever. but she just got out of school (which had left her with one day off: thursday) |
| [01:40:00] | j3_: | mine says she never has a day off |
| [01:41:00] | j3_: | I can't win. :) |
| [01:41:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | nope. |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | you never will, either. |
| [01:41:00] | j3_: | Yeah, I've already conceded that |
| [01:42:00] | xris: | you two ever get evenings out together? |
| [01:42:00] | j3_: | few and far between |
| [01:42:00] | j3_: | my wife is a bit crazy about child care (she was a glorified day care teacher when she was working — "early learning center" they called it) |
| [01:43:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, question for those ivtv users out there. What's everyone's ivtv version/firmware "sweet spot" for their PVR-350s today? |
| [01:43:00] | j3_: | so very high standards |
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| [01:43:00] | j3_: | the one ending in 0024 works for me |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | we've been doing a sunday(ish) night dinner-out kind of thing with friends. I'll keep you posted if you're interested, and you two can decide if you can make it. |
| [01:44:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ i made sure the output was set to /dev/dsp and the mixer was /dev/mixer. still no audio |
| [01:44:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: Are you talking about the firmware rev? |
| [01:44:00] | j3_: | Sunday is usually rough, but yeah, keep me posted |
| [01:44:00] | j3_: | yeah, firmware version, sorry, didn't read carefully enough |
| [01:44:00] | xris: | well, sundayish... "sunday night supper club" just sounded better. |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: does the recording play okay with mplayer? |
| [01:45:00] | xris: | I know it's hard to get out when you have kids, but I've heard that it's good to do occasionally. :) |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | oh, definitely |
| [01:45:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: What driver version do you like? |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | eh, whatever version. :) |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | I've been mostly tracking the devel tree |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | haven't had any problems with any version for quite a while |
| [01:45:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ leme go check. should i get audio? |
| [01:45:00] | j3_: | if its a myth problem, yeah |
| [01:45:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: Ah, so you use the 0.3x branch? |
| [01:46:00] | j3_: | yup, 0.3 branch for the most part |
| [01:46:00] | xris: | I really need to upgrade my mythbox. |
| [01:46:00] | j3_: | I think one of my boxes may still be 0.2.something |
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| [01:46:00] | xris: | will probably wait for that air2pc cardnow, though. |
| [01:46:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: try mplayer /dev/video0 also |
| [01:47:00] | j3_: | xris, did you have to do some trickery to get audio on svid from your 150? |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | speaking of which, I think I'll go check my attic for an antenna. |
| [01:47:00] | monkeyBox: | Help! I accidentally compiled mythtv with directfb support, and now it's not playing video. Is there a way to disable directfb from the commandline? |
| [01:47:00] | Cromz: | heh I just showed my wife hwo to ff through the commercals. ;) w00ts.. |
| [01:47:00] | j3_: | heh |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | j3_: nope, that part always worked fine. |
| [01:47:00] | monkeyBox: | I don't have time to recompile I need to make sure a certain tv show is recording on the backend... |
| [01:47:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: So, you most likely use the firmware linked to here (from the ivtv Wiki): |
| [01:47:00] | NightMonkey: | ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-pvr_250-3 . . . .8.22024.exe |
| [01:47:00] | jemarcks: | wife said i have to wait for a commercial lol |
| [01:48:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: Linked to from http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=FirmwareVersions |
| [01:48:00] | j3_: | I use whatever firmware comes in the ATrpms packages |
| [01:48:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: Ahha. A distro is in the mix. |
| [01:48:00] | j3_: | theres a check ivtv does internally for firmware version, mine's the one that prints out something ending in 0024 |
| [01:49:00] | j3_: | I use that same firmware across 3 different distros |
| [01:49:00] | j3_: | I just have them handy on a FC box from which I pull them elsewhere |
| [01:49:00] | dagar: | how can I split mpeg video in linux? |
| [01:49:00] | NightMonkey: | j3_: Oh, no, I'm not complaining about that. Just that will lead me to figure out which firmware rev you actually use ;) . |
| [01:50:00] | Agrajag-: | dagar: mpgsplit |
| [01:50:00] | j3_: | check out the spec file for ivtv-firmware on atrpms.net, and it'll give you the link to the actual downloadable file they include |
| [01:50:00] | dagar: | Agrajag-: I need to output mpeg video that will play in windows |
| [01:50:00] | dagar: | I have raw mpeg from a dvd |
| [01:50:00] | Agrajag-: | transcode will do the job |
| [01:51:00] | dagar: | thanks |
| [01:51:00] | ** j3_ makes heavy use of dvd::rip ** | |
| [01:51:00] | Agrajag-: | you can give it a skip option too telilng it which frames to skip |
| [01:51:00] | ikaro: | is it possible to play livetv streams in the framebuffer ? |
| [01:51:00] | Agrajag-: | but yeah what j3_ said is probably a lot easier :) |
| [01:52:00] | xris: | damn, no antenna. guess I buy one |
| [01:52:00] | dagar: | how do I use dvd::rip to do it? |
| [01:52:00] | j3_: | heh |
| [01:52:00] | j3_: | exit1.org/dvdrip/ |
| [01:52:00] | j3_: | http://exit1.org/dvdrip/ |
| [01:53:00] | j3_: | I thought I had some spare RG6-QS I could give ya, but I used my whole roll... |
| [01:53:00] | j3_: | I've got a BEAST antenna on my roof, but I get everything in HD out in MV |
| [01:55:00] | xris: | well, I can probably just pick up a silver sensor for testing. |
| [01:55:00] | j3_: | I think the one we have in the office cost $20 |
| [01:55:00] | xris: | and then if I can't get the other-direction stations, I can have Beirdo tell me how to hook up another one to the line. |
| [01:55:00] | j3_: | works pretty well |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:56:00] | j3_: | though we're on the 32nd floor of a building with clear LOS to Queen Anne hill, so a coat hanger would probably work here |
| [01:56:00] | xris: | heh |
| [01:56:00] | xris: | j3_: which building? |
| [01:57:00] | j3_: | 43,000 tickets have gone through RT already... |
| [01:57:00] | j3_: | And this thing has only been in operation for a few months... |
| [01:57:00] | j3_: | the Westin Building |
| [01:57:00] | j3_: | 6th and Virginia, just north of the Westin Hotel towers |
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| [01:59:00] | xris: | j3_: I used to work just down the block from there at aa.net |
| [01:59:00] | jemarcks: | j3_, ok, mplayer /dev/video0 works but no audio. mplayer /video/recordings/9432983.nuv doesnt play. |
| [01:59:00] | xris: | and you're in the same building as marmoset (if he ever comes back) |
| [02:00:00] | xris: | he works for flying croc |
| [02:00:00] | xris: | (pr0n hosting company) ;) |
| [02:00:00] | Cromz: | huh someone say pr0n?!??! |
| [02:00:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [02:00:00] | jemarcks: | where?! |
| [02:00:00] | j3_: | heh |
| [02:01:00] | xris: | man, there's no hope for geeks. |
| [02:01:00] | jemarcks: | none |
| [02:01:00] | Cromz: | hey! I resemble that remark :( |
| [02:01:00] | xris: | jemarcks: http://forevermore.net/files/mmg-latest.tar.bz2 |
| [02:01:00] | jemarcks: | xris, whats this for? |
| [02:01:00] | xris: | http://forevermore.net/perl.php |
| [02:01:00] | xris: | read the description |
| [02:01:00] | xris: | all the pr0n you could ever want. |
| [02:01:00] | jemarcks: | ok. |
| [02:02:00] | jemarcks: | cool! |
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| [02:02:00] | jemarcks: | more than thehun.com? |
| [02:03:00] | xris: | jemarcks: that's included. |
| [02:03:00] | xris: | it's based on porn-get (lesbian.mine.nu) |
| [02:03:00] | jemarcks: | hehe... |
| [02:04:00] | xris: | I have this weird need to fix/improve things. |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | ok,, downloaded it. ill look into that later tonite lol |
| [02:04:00] | Cromz: | Yes, it makes a really good porn grabber (it is, after all, based on the one from lesbian.mine.nu) now what was you doing at lesbian.mine.au !?!!??!?! |
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| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | but first, please help me get my ^@#&$#@* sound to work! |
| [02:04:00] | xris: | au? |
| [02:04:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here use knoppmyth and can help me getting my remote working? |
| [02:04:00] | Cromz: | oh I'm half blind.. |
| [02:04:00] | Cromz: | nu |
| [02:05:00] | Cromz: | what happens after way to many pr0n sites.. |
| [02:05:00] | jemarcks: | xris, how do i unsip a z2 again? |
| [02:06:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [02:06:00] | j3_: | tar -xjf file.tbz2 |
| [02:06:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody have a clue to debugging a problem like this: lircd is running, irw connects to the socket, but remote presses yelid no output |
| [02:06:00] | dhofstra: | you have a lircd.conf for your remote right? |
| [02:07:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: you definitely have an ivtv problem, one which I'm not sure how to fix... |
| [02:07:00] | j3_: | You might check the ivtv list archives for stuff about svid and audio |
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| [02:08:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ oh great. do you think i can drop down to useing coax and go from there? |
| [02:08:00] | ** xris wonders what the difference is between the zenith silver sensor for $20–30, and the $50 "aplified" one at radioshack ** | |
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| [02:09:00] | j3_: | a stock zss has only a coax feed coming off it, the amplified thing probably has a power cable for a little amp as well |
| [02:09:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: you could certainly try that... |
| [02:09:00] | xris: | amplified probably won't do me much extra, given how close I am. |
| [02:09:00] | j3_: | most likely not |
| [02:10:00] | j3_: | if you're really close, an amp can actually be bad |
| [02:10:00] | xris: | I've also heard rumors that many cell towers in seattle act as repeaters for hdtv, too. |
| [02:10:00] | j3_: | hm... not so sure about that one... |
| [02:10:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ guess i have to huh. thanks for your help. i might need more to switch to coax. should i pick compsite or tuner0 to get an input from the DTV box? |
| [02:10:00] | dhofstra: | in my opinion, amplification seems to hurt hdtv signals, unless it is just for a long cable run |
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| [02:10:00] | xris: | j3_: otherwise, too many hills for a signal to get over. |
| [02:10:00] | jemarcks: | xris, omg, great program LOL |
| [02:10:00] | xris: | lol |
| [02:11:00] | j3_: | in my experience, an amp is a good thing in some cases |
| [02:11:00] | iggy: | xris: knows what people want |
| [02:11:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: you might try composite before tuner0 |
| [02:11:00] | iggy: | err, minus the : and all |
| [02:11:00] | j3_: | A signal amp was an absolute must where I live. |
| [02:12:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ ok, i think i tried that before but i will repeat. keep the sounds settings like they are? /dev/mixer /dev/dsp? |
| [02:12:00] | j3_: | the key is getting a good signal amp |
| [02:12:00] | j3_: | for now, yeah |
| [02:12:00] | xris: | hmm, this thing is bigger than it looks. |
| [02:12:00] | xris: | 42" tall |
| [02:12:00] | abarbaccia: | alright, so here's my issue – i have lircd running, and the lirc modules installed, and when i run irw it doesnt give me any problems about connection refused, but it also doesn't output anything when i do a keypress |
| [02:13:00] | xris: | that can't be right. |
| [02:13:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ fyi, i posted this to mythtv-users today with logs and modprobe.conf. hope that helps ys |
| [02:13:00] | jemarcks: | us |
| [02:13:00] | j3_: | xris: eh? what's 42" tall? |
| [02:13:00] | dhofstra: | xris: I am a big supporter of the silver sensor for HDTV; it works really the best of all the indoor types I've tried, but a yagi in the attic still prolly beats it |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | oh, I see. it has rabbit ears that pop out. |
| [02:14:00] | j3_: | and a yagi on the roof beats that |
| [02:14:00] | j3_: | :) |
| [02:14:00] | dhofstra: | trump |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | well, not putting an antenna on my roof. |
| [02:14:00] | j3_: | aw, c'mon |
| [02:14:00] | j3_: | I have a lovely 12' yagi atop a 10' mast. :) |
| [02:14:00] | dhofstra: | the little radioshack 20 dollar uhf and a 6 dollar attic mount rod work pretty damn good for me |
| [02:14:00] | j3_: | then 40' of RG6-QS |
| [02:15:00] | jemarcks: | brb |
| [02:15:00] | j3_: | and a signal preamp |
| [02:15:00] | dhofstra: | let's not compare mast sizes in here ok? he he he |
| [02:15:00] | j3_: | but I live in the sticks |
| [02:15:00] | jemarcks: | going to switch from svideo to composite... |
| [02:15:00] | j3_: | (relatively speaking) |
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| [02:16:00] | dhofstra: | I guess I would sum up HD reception as multipath is much more of a problem than signal level.. |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | it really is too bad that I can't jack into my dishnetwork coax to bring the hdtv signal in. |
| [02:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | would sure save the trouble of rewiring. |
| [02:18:00] | dhofstra: | you dont mean a diplexer right? |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | could mount it on my dish, too. |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | dhofstra: no, I mean the actual wires. |
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| [02:19:00] | dhofstra: | oh, cuz you know you should be able to put an outdoor antenna near / or on the dish, and diplex the signal into the existing SAT RG6 |
| [02:19:00] | dhofstra: | works great with directtv |
| [02:19:00] | xris: | hmm, I can't actually find any real Antiference silver sensor antennas for sale. |
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| [02:20:00] | xris: | dhofstra: maybe. but that's beyond my knowhow. |
| [02:20:00] | dhofstra: | the zenith ones work fine |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | ok |
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| [02:20:00] | dhofstra: | xris it is very simple, they sell diplexers at menards; you put one by the dish to merge the ant/sat feed, and use another by the tv to split them again |
| [02:20:00] | mjunkiexl: | (*) DirectFB/Core/WM: Default 0.2 (Convergence GmbH) |
| [02:20:00] | mjunkiexl: | 2005-04–26 21:20:19.248 DirectFB output : card : NO hardware blit support |
| [02:20:00] | mjunkiexl: | (!) [ 8137: 0.000] --> Caught signal 11 (at 0x4d0077, invalid address) <-- |
| [02:20:00] | mjunkiexl: | Killed |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | ah |
| [02:20:00] | mjunkiexl: | :( |
| [02:21:00] | mjunkiexl: | I can "watch tv" using Bob instead of kernel deinterlacing ... but it shows a tiny frame with wickedly off colors (think acid trip) that hiccups.... it's easier to watch scrambled porn |
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| [02:21:00] | DJ_Rican: | hello ppl |
| [02:22:00] | DJ_Rican: | anyone use an ASUS V7700 as a tv card? |
| [02:22:00] | mjunkiexl: | Everything was fine until I grabbed the myth 0.18 stuff off portage :( |
| [02:22:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: Probably not the best place to complain about Portage ebuilds... |
| [02:23:00] | mjunkiexl: | Not complaining — just stating what hosed it |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | ahh, I see. I can get zenith or terk. |
| [02:24:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: FWIW, I just got similar errors on my laptop, but not on my other nvidia or PVR-350 systems. |
| [02:24:00] | j3_: | another smallish one to look at might be the square shooter... |
| [02:25:00] | dhofstra: | xris: there is also a brand at K's merchandise that is the same silver sensor as you seek (20 bucks retail) |
| [02:25:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: I'm attempting to fix it myself. |
| [02:25:00] | xris: | dhofstra: not a store I'm familiar with. |
| [02:25:00] | dhofstra: | xris: that is UHF only I believe, whereas the terk is vhf also |
| [02:25:00] | mjunkiexl: | NightMonkey — I am on nvidia ... Geforce 5200 FX |
| [02:25:00] | xris: | yeah. |
| [02:25:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: That's odd, then. |
| [02:25:00] | mjunkiexl: | NightMonkey — I'm trying to emerge DirectFB-extra and xdirectfb ... since DirectFB is clearly the issue |
| [02:25:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: Let me check the changelog |
| [02:26:00] | xris: | wondering if $3 more is worth it for vhf |
| [02:26:00] | mud: | my channel listings are an hour off how do i fix this i cant find an option for the program listing time anywhere |
| [02:26:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: Oh, I hate it when ebuilds get "bumped" but no revision update. |
| [02:26:00] | dhofstra: | depends whether you actually have vhf stations in your area www.antennaweb.org |
| [02:27:00] | xris: | and then there's something like http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=901 . . . 111&sp=1 |
| [02:27:00] | j3_: | mud: still running 0.17, by chance? |
| [02:27:00] | dhofstra: | xris: I had miserable results with that |
| [02:27:00] | xris: | dhofstra: everything's HD here, anyway. |
| [02:27:00] | mud: | i just got mythtv 2 days ago from debian repository |
| [02:27:00] | xris: | dhofstra: well, good to know then. scratch that one. |
| [02:27:00] | j3_: | you don't want to know how much time and money I spent on my antenna setup... |
| [02:28:00] | dhofstra: | xris : I did trial and error with about 15 antennas, and generally, the uglier (yagi-like) the better |
| [02:28:00] | xris: | dhofstra: http://tinyurl.com/as2cc |
| [02:28:00] | mud: | j3_: i have .17–3 |
| [02:28:00] | mjunkiexl: | NightMonkey: emerge DirectFB-extras failed... I did an update world... so I'm now trying a downgrade of DirectFB |
| [02:28:00] | xris: | they're dark like that because I selected the "I'm near an airport" box. |
| [02:28:00] | dhofstra: | no need for vhf then |
| [02:29:00] | dhofstra: | oops, there are a few in there that are vhf |
| [02:29:00] | xris: | dhofstra: only look at digital |
| [02:29:00] | xris: | they all say uhf |
| [02:29:00] | j3_: | mud: that bug is fixed in 0.18, or there's a patch floating about the -users list that applies to 0.17 |
| [02:29:00] | dhofstra: | cool |
| [02:29:00] | mud: | j3_:thx |
| [02:30:00] | j3_: | np |
| [02:30:00] | mud: | j3_: what is the -users list? |
| [02:30:00] | j3_: | mythtv-users |
| [02:30:00] | Cromz: | this is working out nicely.. wife is skipping the commercials for me :) |
| [02:31:00] | dhofstra: | xris: this is the one I ended up with in the attic mounted on a 6 dollar attic mount http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog . . . 5Fid=15-2160 |
| [02:31:00] | mud: | does auto commercial skip work for anyone? |
| [02:31:00] | j3_: | yup |
| [02:31:00] | xris: | dhofstra: that's not so bad |
| [02:31:00] | Cromz: | I havn't tweaked mine in the best yet.. hehe |
| [02:31:00] | mud: | hope they fixed that in .18 too cause it dont work for me |
| [02:31:00] | dhofstra: | oops 13 dollar attic mount http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog . . . %5Fid=15-882 |
| [02:32:00] | j3_: | commercial auto-skip has worked for me since pre-0.8 |
| [02:32:00] | dhofstra: | its really only like a 30 or 40 inch boom |
| [02:32:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ guess what? it works on tuner 0 with sound! wohoo. composite0 has a black screen. |
| [02:32:00] | mud: | i must be using it wrong or something |
| [02:32:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ svideo looks somewhat better. |
| [02:32:00] | j3_: | I'd have to think it was something on yoru end too |
| [02:33:00] | j3_: | jemarcks: yeah, svid is definitely preferred, if possible |
| [02:33:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ wife says she needs more volume. i have the alsamixer master volume maxed out. |
| [02:34:00] | dhofstra: | xris, of course the guy that owned the house before me saved 13 bucks on the attic mount by nailing a broomstick straight in the rafters... :) |
| [02:34:00] | xris: | lol |
| [02:34:00] | j3_: | bump up the pcm mixer too |
| [02:34:00] | xris: | I wonder how hard it'd be to pull a coax line down to my mythbox |
| [02:34:00] | xris: | I could mount a small yagi like that one outside if I could put it near my dish. |
| [02:35:00] | j3_: | you could always bring the myth box to the antenna. ;-) |
| [02:35:00] | dhofstra: | and diplex the signals (thats what I would do) |
| [02:35:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ PCM did the trick |
| [02:36:00] | jemarcks: | j3_ now to setup the remote and channel changer. :) |
| [02:36:00] | j3_: | good luck, its time for me to hit the road for home... |
| [02:36:00] | jemarcks: | thanks |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | j3_: good. |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | dhofstra: yeah. just don't know if it's worth the effort. heh. |
| [02:37:00] | jemarcks: | he must be in CA |
| [02:37:00] | j3_: | WA |
| [02:37:00] | jemarcks: | xris, i better not let my teenagers see mmg LOL |
| [02:37:00] | j3_: | later all |
| [02:37:00] | jemarcks: | WA eh? cool. |
| [02:37:00] | xris: | jemarcks: or my grandparents. heh. |
| [02:37:00] | jemarcks: | xris. LOL |
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| [02:38:00] | xris: | I seriously had a legit use for it. |
| [02:38:00] | jemarcks: | xris, where does j3 work? |
| [02:38:00] | xris: | but it was easier to find pr0n listings |
| [02:38:00] | xris: | jemarcks: downtown seattle, some online ad company. |
| [02:38:00] | jemarcks: | xris, we all have our testing methodologies. |
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| [02:39:00] | jemarcks: | xris, ah.. ok. i work for the largest chip maker. :P |
| [02:40:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: and how big is the chip they make? the size of a house? :P :> |
| [02:40:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, haha |
| [02:41:00] | jemarcks: | one would think with all the transistors we pack on it now days |
| [02:42:00] | Cromz: | sorry.. was something I saw on an Angel series. :) 'I'm a rouge demon hunter.. oh. so you junt rouge demons?' lol |
| [02:42:00] | xris: | jemarcks: where abouts? |
| [02:42:00] | Cromz: | er hunt rouge demons |
| [02:42:00] | jemarcks: | xris, Austin :P |
| [02:42:00] | xris: | so is "largest chip maker" intel, or somewhere like samsung? |
| [02:43:00] | jemarcks: | intel |
| [02:43:00] | xris: | ok, terk antenna from amazon is like $28 shipped after tax |
| [02:43:00] | xris: | jemarcks: tell them to send out another good $200 mobo + proc + XP deal to vendors. |
| [02:43:00] | dhofstra: | xris: my dad uses that in chicago and gets everything in really well; good choice |
| [02:43:00] | jemarcks: | xris, do i need to power off the box to plug in the IR receiver for the remote? |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | jemarcks: doubtful |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks: | xris, ill see what i can do. lol. im in design , not marketing |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | dhofstra: I think it says it'll do fm, which would be nice. |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks: | xris, so you thin i could just plug in the IR xcvr? |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | jemarcks: heh. well, they pop up every once in awhile. |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | jemarcks: probably |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | just a serial port, no? |
| [02:45:00] | dhofstra: | xris: that would be nice.. you use mythFM? |
| [02:45:00] | jemarcks: | xris, pluggs into the back of the pvr150 |
| [02:45:00] | xris: | dhofstra: no, but npr would be nice. |
| [02:45:00] | jemarcks: | i wish i could record a radio show like we can TV |
| [02:45:00] | xris: | I'll need to double check. |
| [02:46:00] | jemarcks: | has anybody thought of a myth module to display comics? (like mythnews_ |
| [02:46:00] | Cromz: | ya.. someone write mythradio :) |
| [02:46:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. record mp3 files from radio.. we just need the radio schedules |
| [02:47:00] | Cromz: | naw.. just create abunch of mp3's 001.mp3 and then we rename them to what they really are.. and delete the dj's talking. |
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| [02:47:00] | dhofstra: | for comics, you could prolly use mythbrowser to find your favorite comics website, and mythFM is out there (never tried it) but it is not a standard plugin |
| [02:48:00] | jemarcks: | yeah. but we need a cleaner inplementation |
| [02:48:00] | jemarcks: | no hacks |
| [02:50:00] | Cromz: | myth-recipes?! ACK! noooooooooooo |
| [02:51:00] | xris: | heh. save $0.85 from amazon.com by searching with a9.com |
| [02:51:00] | orenj: | Hello all... Well, I am one of those HD myth users. And I had everything going well and I do something silly like try to upgrade some of my stuff (looking to get some of the HD through cable rather than OTA). My issue right now is the dreaded "prebuffering pause". And I can't seem to get back to the way I had it before. So I guess the question is, is there person out there who fought the same battle I am currently battling with |
| [02:51:00] | orenj: | my HD/XvMC? And if so, any advice? |
| [02:52:00] | orenj: | I've been cruising the mailing lists, it seems this issue can have many culprits |
| [02:52:00] | dhofstra: | orenj; did you set mythfrontend to run with realtime priority? |
| [02:52:00] | orenj: | yeah |
| [02:52:00] | dhofstra: | also, use libmpeg2 is easier on the CPU |
| [02:52:00] | orenj: | even with the HD content? |
| [02:52:00] | dhofstra: | yup |
| [02:53:00] | orenj: | do I need to recompile without XvMC support, or just select it? |
| [02:53:00] | dhofstra: | dunno, did you ever have it working with XVMC? |
| [02:54:00] | orenj: | yeah... but it was a battle, and I was stupid not to take note of the configuration that ended up working |
| [02:54:00] | dhofstra: | what cpu? |
| [02:54:00] | orenj: | 1.4 Ghz AMD |
| [02:54:00] | dhofstra: | ooh |
| [02:54:00] | orenj: | yeah, |
| [02:54:00] | orenj: | tough to get it going |
| [02:54:00] | dhofstra: | you will prolly need to use xvmc |
| [02:54:00] | orenj: | (: |
| [02:55:00] | dhofstra: | i cant help you much in that area; but I can say that most prebuffering pauses are due to audio buffers and the like |
| [02:55:00] | orenj: | I think Myth <= 0.17 allowed for both the libmpeg2 and the XvMC to be selected |
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| [02:55:00] | xris: | ok, antenna ordered. |
| [02:55:00] | xris: | now to find some food. |
| [02:55:00] | orenj: | but no clue whether the two worked together |
| [02:56:00] | orenj: | I'll keep plugging, thanks for the consideration |
| [02:56:00] | dhofstra: | libmpeg2 gives me about 10 percent better cpu usage (that prolly isnt going to be the dealbreaker for your setup) |
| [02:56:00] | abarbaccia is now known as I_AM_NOT_HERE | |
| [02:56:00] | xris: | somehow my wife got 2 cookbooks out of the antenna order, too. |
| [02:56:00] | xris: | last time I ask if there's anything she wants from amazon. heh. |
| [02:57:00] | orenj: | As I recall I think my last problem way back then was the ARTAGP or whatever that acronym is. |
| [02:57:00] | dhofstra: | any ideas here? I have a scsi card and a scsi hard drive I would like to put in my main system; after disc 1 installs, grub just locks when trying to find root; put same card and HD in another PC, and it works just fine... could the scsi card bios and my main PC's bios be in conflict? any easy fixes? |
| [02:57:00] | dhofstra: | AGPGART |
| [02:57:00] | orenj: | but I suppose that was in just trying to get the nVidia drivers going to support XvMC |
| [02:58:00] | dhofstra: | never used that either, but there are good instructions on the nvidia website |
| [02:58:00] | orenj: | cool, thanks |
| [02:58:00] | ** slePP tries to find a nice little mpeg or something library to encode this webcam video stream.... ** | |
| [02:58:00] | DJ_Rican: | anyone use an ASUS V7700 as a tv card? |
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| [03:01:00] | hadees: | hey so i am going to build a backend for my apt. right now i have 1 pvr250, 2 m179, and i just ordered 2 air2pci cars |
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| [03:02:00] | hadees: | what kind of motherboard/cpu am i going to need |
| [03:02:00] | hadees: | and memory |
| [03:02:00] | hadees: | can 1 system even handle this |
| [03:03:00] | DJ_Rican: | yeah, a server |
| [03:03:00] | hadees: | DJ_Rican, thats more of a vauge description |
| [03:04:00] | Agrajag-: | anyone any idea why, when using transcode with mythtranscode, mythtranscode finishes but transcode just hangs around with "clean up |" ? |
| [03:04:00] | DJ_Rican: | ok.. a P4 3.2GHZ with 1 maybe 2 GB of RAM and plenty of PCI slots.... |
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| [03:05:00] | DJ_Rican: | maybe Xeon or AMD64 procs |
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| [03:05:00] | DJ_Rican: | it's a bit of an overkill what you're trying to do... configuration nightmare for you... |
| [03:05:00] | DJ_Rican: | ;) |
| [03:05:00] | hadees: | DJ_Rican, bah i can handle it |
| [03:07:00] | DJ_Rican: | uhu.... i've heard that sooo many times... and then they come back here for help because it will detect a card and not the other, bla, bla, bla... but hey, it's your system... ;) |
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| [03:09:00] | tv-newbie: | hi, whats the best way to do a dvd dump into the hdd ? |
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| [03:09:00] | DJ_Rican: | using the DVD menu in mythtv |
| [03:10:00] | DJ_Rican: | there should be a ripDVD option |
| [03:10:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: I'm not sure that DirectFB is the issue. |
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| [03:17:00] | jemarcks: | well darn, when my scheduled recording came up. i get static |
| [03:17:00] | jemarcks: | live tv up to that point was ok. |
| [03:25:00] | rpete: | topping, did xebian/mythtv install go okay? |
| [03:25:00] | topping: | hi rpete! i got it going, but it's a 1.6 box. is there a way to get mixer working there? |
| [03:26:00] | topping: | i get an error in dmesg about ac'97 not loading mixer... |
| [03:26:00] | topping: | playing with that now |
| [03:26:00] | rpete: | does sound work? |
| [03:26:00] | topping: | it does, but the volume does not |
| [03:26:00] | rpete: | what I've heard is that these things don't have a mixer device |
| [03:26:00] | rpete: | but I probably shouldn't offer an opinion at all, since I don't know for sure |
| [03:26:00] | topping: | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomemeeting-l . . . sg00297.html shows a param of 'xbox' |
| [03:27:00] | topping: | i think that must be a more recent version of the driver than exists with the xebian 1.1.2 |
| [03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: I'm trying an emerge, like so: USE="-directfb" emerge mythfrontend |
| [03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: We'll see if that fixes the problem. |
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| [03:29:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: If it does, then I'm gonna disable that USE flag, then rebuild with "emerge --newuse -uD world". |
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| [03:29:00] | topping: | rpete: but otherwise your instructions worked great. i found that my dvd remote is not recognized, i guess it has a different vendor id |
| [03:29:00] | topping: | ugh |
| [03:29:00] | topping: | so if i can kill those two issues — w00t! |
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| [03:37:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Are there instructions anywhere for compiling and installing the ati_remote.c you wrote for the niveus pc remote? |
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| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet: Nope |
| [03:38:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Maybe a makefile? |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least, none I'm aware of |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [03:38:00] | flindet_: | haha... right on |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a drop in replacement for the ati_remote.c that comes with the 2.6 kernels |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just drop it in place, compile the ati_remote as a module, c'est voila |
| [03:39:00] | flindet_: | right on. thanks |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you have a niveus though |
| [03:39:00] | flindet_: | uh o |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | when you load the module you need to set the value lolatype=1 |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | so modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1 |
| [03:39:00] | flindet_: | oh, okay! Thanks! |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | np |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | 't bothered to make a doc since I don't use any of the package based systems/kernels and as such I wouldn't know what most people would need to do to "properly" compile it on their syste ms |
| [03:41:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: OK, that fixed it. |
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| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | If they are using custom kernels that's different :) |
| [03:41:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: Are you still alive? |
| [03:43:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Hey, no problem. I'm just happy to have something to work with! ;-) |
| [03:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [03:46:00] | orenj: | Geez, it might be easier for me to build a time machine and go back in time and stop myself from screwing up my ever-so-delicate mythtv XvMC/High Def config |
| [03:46:00] | orenj: | any takers for mythtimemachine? |
| [03:48:00] | xris: | orenj: can it go forward and pull down mythtv v10.0 ? |
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| [03:49:00] | orenj: | well, i haven't thought of that |
| [03:49:00] | orenj: | but 10.0 may just require me to upgrade my hardware |
| [03:50:00] | orenj: | figuring myth hasn't made a 1.0 . |
| [03:50:00] | mishehu: | bah. |
| [03:57:00] | rpete: | topping, do you have something you can program as an rca dvd remote? |
| [03:57:00] | rpete: | a universal doo dad perhaps |
| [03:57:00] | topping: | i have a universal remote with dongle, but the dongle doesn't have the right USB id |
| [03:57:00] | rpete: | so you don't have the xbox dongle? |
| [03:58:00] | topping: | it works the same under normal circumstances, but not with lirc/xir |
| [03:58:00] | rpete: | funky |
| [03:58:00] | topping: | (works with regular dashboard i mean) |
| [03:58:00] | topping: | yah it's strange |
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| [04:03:00] | orenj: | maybe I should just break down and upgrade |
| [04:03:00] | Osgyth: | im looking into building a PVR and i was wondering if anyone has used a RE Modulator to send the output back into the coax lize to pick it up on any tv. I was wodering if it works and how good it is. |
| [04:04:00] | orenj: | I was always wondering if that was possible, and if it would affect cable customers who live near me. I would think not |
| [04:04:00] | perronegro: | I have compiled lirc-0.7.1 against a kernel 2.4.22–1.2188.nptl.source.rpm, done "make" and "make install." This seemed to work, but then after "setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none," "/sbin/modprobe lirc_dev," and "/sbin/modprobe lirc_serial," "mode2" gets no output. This is a homebrew IR receiver from my-irshop.de; and I tested it with WinLirc, and it receives IR signal in "raw data" from my universal remote (WinLirc can't learn the |
| [04:04:00] | perronegro: | remote's signal, but that's for another day). I have searched google and the mythtv mailing archives, but have not found anyone who has published a solution to my precise problem. Are there any online sources which I'm missing? |
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| [04:10:00] | NightMonkey: | OK. Need to make a big thanks to the devs. I'm now running mythfronted on a PIII 650Mgz ThinkPad 600X, with a (barely) accelerated NeoMagic video chipset. And, after some adjustments to the TV->Playback setup setings, it's smooth playback. |
| [04:11:00] | NightMonkey: | I can't believe how well Myth works. |
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| [04:24:00] | michael: | hello, I have |
| [04:24:00] | michael: | installed a capture card remotely and want to know, can I test a capture with out any video equipmented plugged into the card ? |
| [04:25:00] | michael: | ideally it could capture static with `cat /dev/video0 > my.mpg` |
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| [04:31:00] | nick125: | anyone here if any USB tv tuners are supported in linux? |
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| [04:32:00] | rpete: | that new mpeg4 doohickie is being worked on I hear, but not yet |
| [04:33:00] | nick125: | well, I need a cheap tv tuner that can be transported between two computers, that is supported in both windows and linux |
| [04:36:00] | NightMonkey: | On my laptop, I'm getting a number of "prebuffering pause" messages from mythfrontend. How do I increase the amount of memory used for prebuffering? |
| [04:37:00] | itsame: | hey all |
| [04:37:00] | nick125: | hi |
| [04:37:00] | itsame: | anyone know anything about Alsa drivers etc...sound card broke in 2.6.11 ;( |
| [04:37:00] | itsame: | loading...but alsamixer pcm/master won't let volume change from 0 |
| [04:37:00] | itsame: | anyone ever see that? |
| [04:38:00] | NightMonkey: | Doh. Searched the archives, and it looks like it is a CPU/Chipset horsepower issue. |
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| [04:38:00] | kormoc: | itsame, bttv card? |
| [04:38:00] | itsame: | nah |
| [04:38:00] | itsame: | onboard sound |
| [04:38:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Do you have time to talk a bit about your driver? |
| [04:39:00] | kormoc: | ahh, heh |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | Card: ATI IXP x |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | x Chip: C-Media Electronics CMI9761 |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | it's weird |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | works fine in 2.6.9 |
| [04:39:00] | kormoc: | so downgrade? |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | but alsa puts the chip as C-Media id 83 |
| [04:39:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: I just want to confirm that it's working the way it's supposed to |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | well...I need 2.6.11 for other things ;( |
| [04:39:00] | itsame: | heh |
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| [04:42:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Should the wheel be working as a mouse? Or is it normal to just act like arrow keys? I'm not in myth. Just KDE. |
| [04:45:00] | CygnusX1: | Hello. Is anyone running 0.3.3o with a PVR150 NTSC type 50? |
| [04:46:00] | Cromz: | no upgrade.. :P |
| [04:46:00] | nick125: | grr, anyone know of a USB tv tuner that works? :( |
| [04:46:00] | Cromz: | j/k :) |
| [04:49:00] | NightMonkey: | Hmm... Anyone else have mythfrontend ignore the SUID setting? |
| [04:49:00] | NightMonkey: | (0.18) |
| [04:49:00] | CygnusX1: | NightMonkey, how can you tell? |
| [04:49:00] | NightMonkey: | I've definitely got it set, but the mythfrontend log keeps spitting out "Realtime priority would require SUID as root." |
| [04:52:00] | NightMonkey: | Also, I notied this in the logs: "Registering Internal as a media playback plugin." Are there other options for playback? |
| [04:55:00] | CygnusX1: | NightMonkey, what log do you see the realtime messages in? |
| [04:55:00] | NightMonkey: | CygnusX1: Like I said, the mythfrontend. The output from mythfrontend. |
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| [05:00:00] | nick125: | ANYONE know of a USB tuner that might work in linux? |
| [05:01:00] | Beirdo: | there's this new invention called google. |
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| [05:02:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: Alive? |
| [05:02:00] | NightMonkey: | mjunkiexl: Or messed up on junkieXL again? |
| [05:03:00] | mchou: | all right, anyone else get ENC IRQ OVERFLOW, Stealing a buffer, 2 currently allocated w/150 or 500? |
| [05:03:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: I get that on my PVR-350 at times. |
| [05:04:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Really weird, since it wasn't happening until recently. And I haven't changed kernels or the ivtv driver. |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou I've gotten that on my 250's. But after rearranging them within the pci slots it went away |
| [05:04:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: you get skippy video during those times? |
| [05:04:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Yes. |
| [05:04:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: I'm getting then all the time on my 150s...... |
| [05:04:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: And, unfortunately, I often have to restart my mythfrontend on that box. |
| [05:05:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: ohh, not cool. |
| [05:05:00] | mchou: | them* |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: Minestarted after I moved stuff around in the box. And went away when I changed them around in the slots again |
| [05:05:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Seems to have coincided with my upgrade to 0.18, but I'm not *completely* sure about that. |
| [05:05:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: hmm...... |
| [05:05:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Only one PCI slot here, so hardware changes aren't my issue ;). |
| [05:05:00] | mchou: | the message is from ivtv though....... |
| [05:05:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Yes. |
| [05:06:00] | mchou: | so something funky is going on...... |
| [05:06:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: But myth does talk to ivtv. But, again, not sure. |
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| [05:06:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Let me check my old logs to see when it started. |
| [05:06:00] | mchou: | weird thing is my ivtvs are not sharing any irqs....... |
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| [05:08:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: which ver. ivtv drivers are you using? |
| [05:09:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: OK, it actually appears to have been happening for a while, but not all the time. |
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| [05:10:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: In fact, it appears to happen during the recording of certain shows, considering the timestamps I'm seeing. |
| [05:10:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Let me check the ver. |
| [05:10:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: heh, has never happened on my m179s..... |
| [05:11:00] | mchou: | modinfo ivtv ought to tell you, I think..... |
| [05:11:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: 0.2.0_rc3 |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: wow, an oldie :) |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | 3.3n here :) |
| [05:12:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Yeah. Sorry, probably can't be of good help to you, then. |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: using a 2.4 kernel, I presume? :) |
| [05:13:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Oh, no. 2.6.10. |
| [05:14:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: w/ NPTL. |
| [05:14:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: ok, fair enough..... |
| [05:14:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: ? |
| [05:15:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: The speed boost alone is worth the price of admission. |
| [05:15:00] | mchou: | lol, what speed. I lose "speed" with 2.6 cause of all the broken shit that needs fixing like USB. |
| [05:16:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Huh. USB hasn't been a problem here. |
| [05:17:00] | mchou: | try a scanner. You'll know what I'm talking about :) |
| [05:17:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: OK. One sec. |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | USB bus will disconnect on you...... :) |
| [05:20:00] | mud_: | im trying to install mythtv dependencies but some of them depend on xlibmesagl so it wants to upgrade xlibmesagl to install but it cant because xlibmesagl conflicts with the ati fglrx driver anyone use fglrx driver? |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | mud_: dude, you dont have enough problems?? :) |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | mud_: fly away from ATI |
| [05:22:00] | mud_: | mchou: i will never buy another ati card |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | mud_: lol :) |
| [05:22:00] | Semhirage: | meh, its not bad, i haven't had any problems with mine |
| [05:23:00] | mud_: | Semhirage : did u install mythtv from source? |
| [05:23:00] | Semhirage: | sort of, i run gentoo |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | mud_: compile from source :) |
| [05:24:00] | mud_: | mchou: u have fglrx? |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | mud_: hell no :) |
| [05:24:00] | mud_: | mchou: lucky |
| [05:24:00] | Semhirage: | i had no problems with fglrx and mythtv |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | not luck. just ran into ati earlier and learned my lesson is all :) |
| [05:25:00] | mud_: | seems like other people would have this same problem |
| [05:25:00] | Semhirage: | installed ati-drivers and xorg, config'd xorg, tested it to make sure it was working, then installed mythtv |
| [05:25:00] | mud_: | i cant even get the dependencies installed |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | mud_: you shouldnt need mesa...... |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | if you have ati gl headers :) |
| [05:27:00] | mud_: | i did apt-get build-dep mythtv and one of the deps is xlibmesgl |
| [05:28:00] | mud_: | so i tries to upgrade xlibmesagl but it cant |
| [05:28:00] | mud_: | cause of fglrx |
| [05:28:00] | mchou: | mud_: can you revert to vesa driver? |
| [05:29:00] | CygnusX1: | Is there an nforce4 board out with integrated nv VGA? |
| [05:29:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: USB scanner working here on 2.6.10. |
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| [05:29:00] | mchou: | then install mesa, then install fglrx. |
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| [05:29:00] | CygnusX1: | and tv out |
| [05:29:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here use knoppmyth and know how to get lirc_i2c probed at boot along with lircd and mtd running on bootup? |
| [05:29:00] | mud_: | mchou: that may work |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: lol. Try more than one scan. It will disconnect the usb bus and give the scanner a new libusb dev number...... |
| [05:30:00] | cyvillian: | 'Eh? |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: exactly :) |
| [05:31:00] | cyvillian: | Think you're talking to somebody else. This computer doesn't have a USB controller. O_o |
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| [05:31:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: you said USB scanner working on 2.6.10 :) |
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| [05:32:00] | cyvillian: | mchou: Did I now? |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: oops, sorry, meant NightMonkey :) |
| [05:32:00] | cyvillian: | Haha |
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| [05:33:00] | cyvillian: | That's alright, my question is about integration. How would I go about integrating previously-recorded TV shows from a different platform(Lets just associate them as labeled MPEGs) into MythTV without mixing them with Videos(Where I store my movies)? |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: also try attaching to cable modem and watch it die in flames (worked perfect w/2.4) |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: why not just use mythweb :) |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | no integration necessary :) |
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| [05:36:00] | cyvillian: | mchou:How would I use mythweb with a folder of mpegs? |
| [05:37:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: never mind. was too doped up :) |
| [05:37:00] | cyvillian: | mchou:Do you understand my problem? |
| [05:37:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: I dunno, man, I think you're spreading bad info. Several scans, no problems. You sure you were using 2.6.10? |
| [05:37:00] | mchou: | cyvillian: yup. |
| [05:37:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: dude, 2.6.11rc3+ |
| [05:38:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: And I use USB all over the place, on many systems. |
| [05:38:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Ah, a pre-release kernel. |
| [05:38:00] | cyvillian: | mchou:So what do you suggest? Want to inject tv show collection into mythtv. |
| [05:38:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: I love it when people expect anything beta to work perfectly. |
| [05:38:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: I'm not the only one reporting USB problems with 2.6, and I've tried several 2.6 kernels. |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | release and beta. |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | all of 2.6 by definition is BETA, lol :) |
| [05:40:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: No, I'm sure you're not the only one. But just saying that 2.6 is broken is kinda FUDdy. |
| [05:40:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: How is 2.6 beta? It's been released, last I heard. |
| [05:40:00] | cyvillian: | I thought the kernel numbers that are even are stable. |
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| [05:40:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: no, you dont know what you're talking about. Thse problems I mention have only been fixed since 2.6.11.6. |
| [05:40:00] | cyvillian: | People that 2.4 was stable by 2.4.11. |
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| [05:41:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Oh. You might be right, I don't know what you're talking about. Because you were so vague as to preclude understanding. |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: I've found plenty of issues with 2.6, including NFS LFS issues. |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: how am I being vague? |
| [05:42:00] | mchou: | I told you the USB disconnects for no reason. It also parses USB info incoorectly in 2.6 (only fixed since 2.6.11.6) |
| [05:42:00] | mchou: | That specific enough for ya? |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | incoorectly* |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | incorrectly* |
| [05:44:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: You said "all the broken shit that needs fixing" in 2.6. |
| [05:44:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Now you're getting specific. |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | right, USB. NFS. |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | VM subsystem |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | you name it, it's in there. |
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| [05:45:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: I'm sorry you've experienced all these bugs. But, for MythTV, haven't had an issue. And I'm using NFS, and USB. YMMV. |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | worse than windows, dare I say :) |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: lol, I use linux for much more than myth :) |
| [05:45:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: And, USB does not disconnect for me. |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | which is how I know about these problems. |
| [05:46:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: As do I. But we're in the Mythtv-users channel... |
| [05:48:00] | topping: | bleh, xbox is not good enough for commercial |
| [05:48:00] | rpete: | for commercial what? |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: you want to take risks, go right ahead. There is no way I'd put 2.6 anything on a production box. |
| [05:49:00] | topping: | i need to sell (a few, not a lot) of these to people that have been busting my chops for them |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | topping: lol. |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | people want to buy an xbox mythtv frontend? |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | no, it's not powerful enough in my opinion |
| [05:49:00] | NightMonkey: | mchou: Oh, stop slinging the FUD. That's your choice. People said "there's no way I'd use Linux on a Production box" just a few years ago. Still are, I bet. |
| [05:50:00] | rpete: | mythmusic particularly sucks on xbox |
| [05:50:00] | rpete: | and I can't get livetv cnn ticker to scroll smoothly |
| [05:50:00] | topping: | yah, that's not going to work for this guy |
| [05:50:00] | topping: | money is less of an object with him |
| [05:50:00] | topping: | he wants something that is similar to kaleidescope |
| [05:51:00] | topping: | and wouldn't hesitate to put a tivo in every room |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: now you really dont know what you're talking about. I've probably used linux longer than anyone here, even bought it into HP in mid 90's.... |
| [05:51:00] | rpete: | I use the xbox frontend for playback of recorded programs mostly, the wife thinks it's wonderful |
| [05:51:00] | rpete: | but I see much lacking |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | And having worked in server area I am well aware what the weaknesses are in linux. |
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| [05:52:00] | mchou: | as well as the strngths. |
| [05:52:00] | topping: | rpete: i just think a diskless 2ghz celeron is going to do this guy a lot better |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | strengths* |
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| [05:52:00] | mchou: | NightMonkey: take you accusations of fud elsewhere. |
| [05:52:00] | topping: | but damn, i gotta get this together quick.. ugh |
| [05:52:00] | monkeyBox: | Hi all.. I'm trying to change the mythfrontend X and Y gui offset, but no matter how h |
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| [05:53:00] | monkeyBox: | Hi all.. I'm trying to change the mythfrontend X and Y gui offset, but no matter how I change the values, it does not affect anything... |
| [05:53:00] | monkeyBox: | Is there anything I might be doing wrong? |
| [05:53:00] | ** rpete wonders if mchou used linux longer than him ** | |
| [05:53:00] | rpete: | think 1995 slackware install on 386 with 2mb ram was my first |
| [05:53:00] | topping: | yah me too! |
| [05:53:00] | rpete: | that thing ran like shit |
| [05:53:00] | CygnusX1: | rpete, are you still using slack? |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | rpete: if you remember yggradsil then you know what I'm talking about :) |
| [05:54:00] | rpete: | mandrake now! :-) |
| [05:54:00] | topping: | that was before CD-R! |
| [05:54:00] | cyvillian: | Minix motherfuckers. :D |
| [05:54:00] | topping: | 1.1 was essential |
| [05:54:00] | monkeyBox: | Does anyone else here use the X and Y offset features? |
| [05:55:00] | topping: | monkeyBox: i was trying to, but that kills fullscreen |
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| [05:55:00] | topping: | ok, bbl |
| [05:55:00] | monkeyBox: | topping: well, I'm trying to make it fit my TV correctly... The gui is not centered. When I change the X and Y offset values, it doesn't change anything |
| [05:56:00] | topping: | dunno, it works on the xbox |
| [05:56:00] | topping: | only time i've ever tried |
| [05:56:00] | topping: | maybe you are using directfb? |
| [05:56:00] | topping: | that would be a problem |
| [05:56:00] | topping: | bbl |
| [05:56:00] | monkeyBox: | Using xorg... |
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| [06:13:00] | stang: | Hey guys, is anyone around? I was just wanting to chat with someone about what is needed to get a mythtv setup going (mainly hardware info). |
| [06:13:00] | cyvillian: | What's up? |
| [06:14:00] | stang: | I was looking to buy a lcd panel to double as a tv and monitor |
| [06:14:00] | stang: | but the lcd tv's are pretty expensive |
| [06:14:00] | cyvillian: | Heh |
| [06:14:00] | cyvillian: | If you're looking for something smaller--regular LCDs are fine. |
| [06:14:00] | stang: | I was planning on going with like a 19" |
| [06:15:00] | cyvillian: | Check newegg |
| [06:15:00] | stang: | and using a hauppauge card |
| [06:15:00] | stang: | and of course, myth |
| [06:15:00] | cyvillian: | Cool |
| [06:15:00] | stang: | is that overkill for just using it as a tuner? |
| [06:15:00] | cyvillian: | A hauppauge just for use as a tuner? |
| [06:16:00] | stang: | yeah |
| [06:16:00] | cyvillian: | Last I checked that's what it was. :P |
| [06:16:00] | stang: | very true, but i price checked the 350 and it's almost 200 bucks... seems kind of pricey for just a tuner |
| [06:16:00] | cyvillian: | I'm not using the video output on a 350. I'm using DVI out for a projector. If you get an LCD monitor with DVI you won't need to use it. The reason Hauppauge cards are good is because they do MPEG encoding onboard. |
| [06:16:00] | cyvillian: | You can always use the 250. That's cheaper. |
| [06:17:00] | cyvillian: | I use the 350 for the FM tuner and remote. |
| [06:17:00] | stang: | Oh... i guess I need to check out the specs of the tuners a little bit more |
| [06:17:00] | cyvillian: | They're basically the best supported, documented, and featured. |
| [06:18:00] | stang: | The LCD i'm looking at has the DVI connector so i'll probably use it |
| [06:18:00] | stang: | How is the best way to throw in the input for a PS2? |
| [06:18:00] | stang: | get an lcd w/ composite in? |
| [06:19:00] | cyvillian: | An RF adapter on the cable input? |
| [06:19:00] | stang: | that makes sense |
| [06:19:00] | cyvillian: | Easiest way |
| [06:19:00] | stang: | that's a pretty cheap alternative |
| [06:20:00] | cyvillian: | Quality is decent--if you really want, you can buy something to get VGA out on a PS2. |
| [06:20:00] | cyvillian: | And get a dual-input LCD like my Samsung 152T |
| [06:20:00] | cyvillian: | Pressing the source button switches between VGA and DVI. |
| [06:21:00] | stang: | b/c newegg has an Acer 19" for $285 which only has D-sub and DVI, but then there's a Sceptre X9G-gamer for 350 that has those inputs plus s-video and composite |
| [06:22:00] | stang: | But running the ps2 to the VGA would probably cost a lot less than that $65 difference |
| [06:22:00] | cyvillian: | VGA output on a PS2 will give you 500908324892% better quality than composite. |
| [06:23:00] | cyvillian: | I'm running components on my PS2 with Gran Turismo 4 and it looks like BUTTER. |
| [06:23:00] | stang: | That makes sense |
| [06:23:00] | stang: | Sweet |
| [06:23:00] | stang: | So then you can watch dvd's through your ps2 or computer |
| [06:24:00] | stang: | and then you use your radio on your haupp.... so no fancy receiver/dvd player is needed |
| [06:24:00] | stang: | just a nice speaker setup for the computer |
| [06:24:00] | cyvillian: | High quality inputs for computers are expensive. :/ |
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| [06:25:00] | stang: | What do you mean? High quality inputs for what |
| [06:25:00] | cyvillian: | Computers |
| [06:25:00] | cyvillian: | Like an HD tuner card |
| [06:26:00] | stang: | Oh yeah... I'm not really worried about an HD tuner... I just want to make a cheap LCD monitor work for a quality television |
| [06:26:00] | stang: | I'm a college student that moves around a lot and a flat panel is a lot easier to move than a huge tube television |
| [06:26:00] | cyvillian: | That can work |
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| [06:27:00] | stang: | So do you have a fancy sound card or do you have a seperate receiver? |
| [06:27:00] | cyvillian: | I use onboard audio, but then again, I have a basic 5.1 setup. |
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| [06:29:00] | stang: | One more question about the hauppauge, so I would just use the coax in on it, install a video card that has dvi out, and just route the output to my monitor through the dvi out? |
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| [06:30:00] | cyvillian: | Yea |
| [06:31:00] | stang: | and what brand of ps2-to-vga converter do you suggest? |
| [06:32:00] | stang: | I guess which brand do you have, since it seems to work quite nicely |
| [06:33:00] | cyvillian: | Sure |
| [06:33:00] | cyvillian: | I haven't looked much into it, hold on |
| [06:33:00] | stang: | Ok |
| [06:36:00] | cyvillian: | Looks like all the VGA adapters I've been seeing just convert composite signals into VGA. You might want to look into buying the one with svideo input. |
| [06:36:00] | cyvillian: | Case in point. http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=219 . . . id=3235& |
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| [06:37:00] | stang: | yeah... i doubt the quality of that would be very good... there are some on ebay which plug into the port of the ps2 |
| [06:37:00] | cyvillian: | The best PS2 output is component, but I don't know of any component LCDs |
| [06:37:00] | stang: | there's a few high priced models on newegg |
| [06:38:00] | stang: | nothing i want to pay for though |
| [06:38:00] | cyvillian: | Yea |
| [06:39:00] | stang: | So does the pvr-350 have a good fm reception? |
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| [06:41:00] | cyvillian: | Decent |
| [06:41:00] | cyvillian: | I don't listen to it that much. |
| [06:41:00] | cyvillian: | It's picked up everything my car can. |
| [06:41:00] | rpete: | depends on antenna doesn't it? |
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| [06:45:00] | topping: | okay, maybe it's mac mini? |
| [06:45:00] | topping: | hmm |
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| [06:46:00] | topping: | seems like an epia system is going to be about the same price |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you around? |
| [06:52:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here use knoppmyth and have a simple meathod to get lircd to start after lirc_i2c is loaded |
| [06:54:00] | stang: | How big of a difference is the software encoding of the pvr-250 compared to the hardware encoding of the pvr-350? |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | what's up? |
| [06:57:00] | topping: | anyone have a remote control running for a mac mini frontend? |
| [06:58:00] | topping: | hmm |
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| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | xris: what's up? |
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| [07:09:00] | xris: | sorry, typing long email |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | was hoping you could help me debug this mythtv compile issue. |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | (email about more atrpms spec comments) |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I was about to go to bed though :( |
| [07:10:00] | Roarrr: | quick question... are there any extra steps to get buffered audio working on a bt878 card (win tv go)? |
| [07:10:00] | Roarrr: | audio is live but video is buffered.... dont know why... worked fine with my pvr250 |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | read the documentation |
| [07:11:00] | xris: | Beirdo: then go to bed. no biggie. |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'll try to check in tomorrow |
| [07:12:00] | Beirdo: | Roarrr: you need to mute the input and set it as a capture |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | anyone have any clue what's going on here? http://pastebin.ca/10403 |
| [07:17:00] | pigeon: | you have a video card that does xvmc? |
| [07:17:00] | Roarrr: | awesome Beirdo thank you very much |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | pigeon: no |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | xris: it can't find the lib |
| [07:18:00] | pigeon: | xris: perhaps you could just disable that then... |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I gathered that. |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | pigeon: I'm trying to build an rpm |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | for atrpms |
| [07:19:00] | pigeon: | oh |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | need to have it. |
| [07:19:00] | pigeon: | right... then... |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | I *should* have the necessary libraries installed |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | you'll have to install that lib, no idea where it comes from :( |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | yeah |
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| [10:13:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Ping? |
| [10:13:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Did you get my e-mail? |
| [10:22:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Ah, got your reply. And I see my DSL line going strong. ;) |
| [10:22:00] | NightMonkey: | Nite, all. |
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| [12:12:00] | Spunx: | hey anybody from .NL in here wishing to help an innocent user in de stress? |
| [12:12:00] | Spunx: | can't figure out how to set the correct tv channels.. |
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| [13:14:00] | jemarcks: | After a reboot, /var/log/messages contains Apr 27 07:08:58 htpc1 lircd-0.7.1[3553]: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [13:14:00] | jemarcks: | Apr 27 07:08:58 htpc1 lircd-0.7.1[3553]: could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
| [13:14:00] | jemarcks: | Apr 27 07:08:58 htpc1 lircd-0.7.1[3553]: default_init(): No such file or directory |
| [13:14:00] | jemarcks: | Apr 27 07:08:58 htpc1 lircd-0.7.1[3553]: caught signal |
| [13:14:00] | jemarcks: | and ivtv isnt loaded |
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| [14:42:00] | ikaro: | mojn |
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| [14:56:00] | EmergeTW: | morning |
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| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | blah |
| [15:52:00] | Cromz: | I agree... |
| [15:53:00] | Cromz: | but I'm also goth so I say that alot |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [15:56:00] | tanq_: | what does goth have to do with blah |
| [15:56:00] | ** tanq_ shakes his head ** | |
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| [15:56:00] | Cromz: | you don't know any goths? |
| [15:58:00] | Cromz: | we weat black alot.. we like gemeteries. and we like things most 'normal' people think are depressing. |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | s/goth/freak/ :) Just kidding |
| [15:59:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [15:59:00] | ** laga wears black a lot, too, but that's just to serve common heavy metal clichees ** | |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | you punted that dog yet? |
| [16:00:00] | Cromz: | naw they been good lately :/ all 4 of them. |
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| [16:02:00] | ** Beirdo rips The KLF – The White Room / Justified & Ancient ** | |
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| [17:20:00] | riksta: | "The domain of values for an attribute contains only atomic values" can someone tell me what is meant by atomic |
| [17:21:00] | riksta: | mean just plain numerical values, rather than objects? |
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| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | Ah there he is :) |
| [17:35:00] | xris: | finally |
| [17:35:00] | ** xris kicks gaim ** | |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | don't kick too hard, it might kick back |
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| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [17:50:00] | xris: | rebooted. maybe that will help |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | maybe :) |
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| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | heya, Baylink |
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| [18:05:00] | Baylink: | Hey |
| [18:05:00] | Baylink: | See DonL got stuffing working? |
| [18:05:00] | Baylink: | Scuse, pse: DanL. |
| [18:06:00] | Cromz: | ripping dvd nice... just need to figure out how to make it into a mpg and not a vob. hehe |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't looked for a while |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | i wonder if 0.19 will support SVG images for the themes. that would be cool. |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | laga: only if there's a need for it and someone codes it |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | ok. |
| [18:10:00] | laga: | just wondering if it was on the roadmap |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | doubt it :) |
| [18:10:00] | laga: | k ;) |
| [18:11:00] | Baylink: | I was sort of hoping for "save this paused program frame as a JPG. |
| [18:11:00] | Baylink: | myself... |
| [18:12:00] | Baylink: | *Yes*!!! |
| [18:12:00] | Baylink: | GOP blinked on the nuke-you-lar option. |
| [18:16:00] | Baylink: | Oops: no, ethics, not judges. |
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| [18:39:00] | xris: | Baylink: ? |
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| [18:41:00] | Baylink: | xris: "?" ? :-) |
| [18:43:00] | xris: | you said something about nuke-you-lar |
| [18:46:00] | mchou: | xris: do you happen to be using myth cvs? |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | mchou: yes, but not recent |
| [18:47:00] | mchou: | xris: ok. thx. |
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| [18:49:00] | xris: | intel just announced a whitebox media center pc |
| [18:50:00] | mchou: | lol :) |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | dual tuner hardware encoder. |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | doesn't look half bad |
| [18:50:00] | mchou: | they have a MSRP? |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | pre-assembed units available wholesale for $1500–1800. a bit overpriced. |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | can't find info on just the chassis. |
| [18:50:00] | mchou: | ohh, nasty..... |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | s/chassis/barebones/ |
| [18:51:00] | mchou: | $1500 is a bit steep. |
| [18:51:00] | xris: | comes with a lot of stuff. |
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| [18:51:00] | mchou: | xris: are those P4, do you know? |
| [18:52:00] | Baylink: | xris: congress. Got the ethics foofawraw and the filibuster foofawraw confused. |
| [18:53:00] | mchou: | hey, Repulicans have majority in Congress, but it's amazing how much they've soiled themselves. |
| [18:54:00] | xris: | mchou: of course. |
| [18:54:00] | mchou: | Democrats are just sitting back and enjoying the show :) |
| [18:55:00] | mchou: | All the dems need too do is call a few reporters once in a while..... :) |
| [18:57:00] | xris: | ahh, found it (more or less). |
| [18:57:00] | xris: | looks like the chassis is about $770 |
| [18:58:00] | xris: | and will need RAM, CPU and hard drive. |
| [18:59:00] | mchou: | $770 is a rip for bare bones...... |
| [19:00:00] | ** laga pats the pundit ** | |
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| [19:01:00] | phon: | heya |
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| [19:02:00] | laga: | "we'll be talking to chris kennedy and jarod wilson tonight on the linux tech show" |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | cool. |
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| [19:03:00] | phon: | laga : where is that ? |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | http://www.thelinuxlink.net/tllts/ |
| [19:03:00] | phon: | cool , thx |
| [19:04:00] | phon: | i'll listen |
| [19:04:00] | laga: | stupid timezone. seems like i have to listen to it for breakfast ;) |
| [19:04:00] | beavis: | http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=0 . . . amp;from=rss |
| [19:05:00] | phon: | laga: can't you listen to it in the archives ? |
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| [19:06:00] | phon: | on a different matter, can somebody help me with a mplayer question ? |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | phon: yep. i'm going to do that. |
| [19:08:00] | phon: | i wanne play a regular xvid file over the PVR350 tv-out with mplayer (through mythtv) |
| [19:09:00] | phon: | is it possible and if yes what video driver should i use ? |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | it' |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | s possible, but i think it'll use a lot of video |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | either -vo ivtv or -vo x11 should work |
| [19:09:00] | phon: | i've been following the ivtv-devel mailing list |
| [19:09:00] | phon: | and they're talking about YUV decoding in the latest versions |
| [19:10:00] | phon: | but i'm not sure what that is and if it could help me |
| [19:10:00] | phon: | i currently run the latest stable ivtv driver |
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| [19:12:00] | xris: | mchou: bare bones include dual tuners, all kinds of sound and video in/out, etc |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | xris: yeah, but $770 is still too steep for that :) |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | and you dont know if it'll work with linux. |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | seems to have dvd drive, modem, pci-x video |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | xris: for $770 I'd rather get a HDTivo :) |
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| [19:13:00] | xris: | well, and this can't do HD. |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | so that's an issue. |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | it's probably a pvr-500 |
| [19:14:00] | mchou: | xris: dont be on it. It could also be nvtv...... |
| [19:14:00] | xris: | http://www.intel.com/reseller/digitalhome/na/Intel_ePC.pdf |
| [19:14:00] | mchou: | bet* |
| [19:15:00] | mchou: | xris: is that really made by intel or some other system integrator? |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | mchou: beats me |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | board is intel |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | they probably integrated the rest. |
| [19:16:00] | mchou: | looks like a system integrator to me (for the link) |
| [19:16:00] | mchou: | from* |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | d&h is a distributor |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | there *is* an integrator called datago that's selling fully-configured systems through synnex (another distributor) |
| [19:17:00] | mchou: | could be a nvidia board for all we know :) |
| [19:17:00] | xris: | it's ati |
| [19:17:00] | xris: | says right there. |
| [19:17:00] | xris: | for video out, that is. |
| [19:17:00] | mchou: | lol, that makes it even less attractive. |
| [19:18:00] | mchou: | and why does it say Gigabyte ATI??? |
| [19:19:00] | mchou: | like Gigabyte the mobo/board maker?? |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | like why not ask someone who knows? |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | presumably they made the video card, yes. |
| [19:20:00] | mchou: | xris: that looks like a system integration job. No reason why video isnt integrated on mobo...... |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | mchou: it's a standard intel motherboard. they're not going to make a custom board for such a small market. |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | and yes, integration is the whole POINT of the box. |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | they're selling it to integrators. |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | who then add their own stuff in. |
| [19:21:00] | mchou: | Avermedia Dual TV tuner card :) |
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| [19:22:00] | xris: | on a bright note, my hdtv antenna shipped today. |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | heya, GeckoFiend |
| [19:22:00] | GeckoFiend: | hey hey |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | how goes the new job? |
| [19:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | not too shabby. The data services pilot is almost ready for launch so I can get back to writing code again |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | cool |
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| [19:36:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... I'm having some trouble with MythGame (0.18), anyone here got it to work? I'm curious if it generally just works and I've just gone and messed sometihng up? |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | GeckoFiend: xris is having some IRC issues today. Bear with him :) |
| [19:41:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh wondered what happened to him |
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| [19:44:00] | ** xris kicks the dsl line ** | |
| [19:45:00] | ** Beirdo kicks blogger in the nuts ** | |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | HTTP Status 500 |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | way to go |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | ick |
| [19:48:00] | flithm: | hey does anyone else here have inverted colors in their preview screens since 0.18? |
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| [19:50:00] | Ivan_A: | Does anyone know if its possible to transcode on a slave backend? Only my mster backend wants to transcode recorded material |
| [19:50:00] | flithm: | Ivan_A: I'm pretty sure you can, you just have to deselect that option that only allows jobs to be performed on their recording backends |
| [19:50:00] | flithm: | Ivan_A: although I only have one backend so I've not tried this |
| [19:51:00] | Ivan_A: | yes, I thought so, but I'm getting this in the log on my slave backend: Attempted to transcode myth://192.168.1.64:6543/1000_20050419210000_20050419220000.nuv. Mythtranscode is currently unable to transcode remote files. |
| [19:51:00] | flithm: | hrmf |
| [19:51:00] | Ivan_A: | and then on the status page it just says 'failed' |
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| [19:52:00] | Ivan_A: | commflagging works fine |
| [19:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | flithm are you running gentoo? |
| [19:52:00] | flithm: | GeckoFiend: yeah! (gentoo specific problem?) |
| [19:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | your ebuild has mmx disabled by default |
| [19:52:00] | riksta: | what's the gentoo problem you are having |
| [19:52:00] | flithm: | Ivan_A: a possible workaround comes to mind... maybe mount the recording dir as an NFS mount so it appears local? |
| [19:53:00] | ** riksta interested ** | |
| [19:53:00] | Cromz: | howdy GeckoFiend :) |
| [19:53:00] | flithm: | riksta: inverted preview colors |
| [19:53:00] | kormoc: | I get the inverted preview piview colors too |
| [19:53:00] | flithm: | GeckoFiend: nice, so I just have to force mmx? |
| [19:53:00] | GeckoFiend: | one sec let me find the thread |
| [19:53:00] | ** GeckoFiend doesn't use gentoo ** | |
| [19:54:00] | Ivan_A: | yes, I was going to try that but im not sure how to control transcoding jobs that way? |
| [19:54:00] | Ivan_A: | was just wondering if anyone was using a slave to transcode |
| [19:55:00] | Ivan_A: | my poor backend can't cope! |
| [19:55:00] | flithm: | Ivan_A: yeah it seems like it could be complex. the deal is you want to have a machine dedicated to transcoding so your master backend can do other stuff like commercial flagging? |
| [19:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | nothign clear in the thread about how to fix it.. but the ebuild has a line that says myconf="--disable-mmx that should probably be removed.. |
| [19:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | course they might have the ebuild fixed |
| [19:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89892 |
| [19:55:00] | flithm: | GeckoFiend: thanks for checking... I'll dig around and see if I can find anything else |
| [19:55:00] | Ivan_A: | yes, essentially, I have 2 machines, both 733mhz, one frontend, one backend and I'd like to share the load |
| [19:56:00] | Ivan_A: | comflagging works fine on both, next is to get transcoding to work |
| [19:56:00] | Ivan_A: | so I have a slave bckend running on the frontend |
| [19:56:00] | Ivan_A: | to help out |
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| [19:57:00] | flithm: | Ivan_A: I know this probably isn't exactly what you want, but do you require transcoding to take place quickly? You could nice the transcodes to like +20 or something... or maybe there's a way to schedule them to run after you've gone to bed? |
| [19:58:00] | Ivan_A: | at the moment, im just doing all the transcoding on the backend, and I can leave it that way for now, it would have been nice to make use of spare CPU cycles on my frontend |
| [19:59:00] | Ivan_A: | its basically transcoding 24/7 |
| [19:59:00] | flithm: | Ivan_A: oh I see. hahaha yeah I can see why you might want to do that :) |
| [19:59:00] | Ivan_A: | althought running out of HDD space now, so I guess I'll have to record less :) |
| [20:02:00] | Ivan_A: | I have another, related question. If I transcode using mencoder from the commandline to mpeg4 and keep the same filename, will myth know how to play it? |
| [20:03:00] | Ivan_A: | I could run a cron job on my frontend that kicks in mencoder or something remotely, but I don't know if I need to make changes to the database to tell myth its no longer a mpeg2 file |
| [20:03:00] | Ivan_A: | is that necessary? |
| [20:03:00] | flithm: | hmmm |
| [20:03:00] | flithm: | good questions :) |
| [20:03:00] | flithm: | i have no idea. one good way would be to make a backup, try it, and see :) |
| [20:04:00] | Ivan_A: | yes, going to have to just give it a go! |
| [20:04:00] | Ivan_A: | trying to get a reliable build of mencoder with x264 support, latest mencoder CVS keeps segfaulting on me :( |
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| [20:08:00] | flithm: | does anyone here use mythgame (0.18)? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | fug! |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | blogger's being a POS today |
| [20:08:00] | flithm: | I can't seem to get it to work properly. It scans in the games, but won't show any of the snaps, or launch games? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | I'm THIS close to switching to wordpress |
| [20:09:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: do it. if something pisses you off, it should burn. |
| [20:09:00] | flithm: | coincidentally I have a lot of burn marks on my things. |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's finding the spare time to convert shit that's the issue |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | just PUBLISH MY BLOG, YOU FUCKER! |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | stupid crappy server-side Java software |
| [20:10:00] | flithm: | man you gotta get rid of that thing. server-side java? wordpress is all php isn't it? |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | but blogger's serverside stuff is AT blogger |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | but non-free. dumb. |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | wordpress is free |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | GPL in fact |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | blogger ain't |
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| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | blogger's owned by google |
| [20:12:00] | flithm: | you've sold me and I'm not even thinking of switching! :o) |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | it's just a matter of finding the time |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | oh, had it confused with something else |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | in theory, it will import from blogger |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | the 10th time was the charm |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | I was thinking of movable type |
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| [20:13:00] | flithm: | just calculate the amount of hours that blogger has spent / you expect to spend being annoyed (call this x). Now do a rough estimate how long the conversion will take (call this y). if (x >= y) burn(blogger); |
| [20:14:00] | flithm: | I've also heard moveable type is pretty good. |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | but if y >= free time, sleep(indefinite); burn(blogger); |
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| [20:15:00] | flithm: | right yeah that whole free time and sleep thing. :o). |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | free time -> 0 |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | unfortunately |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | I have nuvtools to fix |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | I have at least one issue in nuvexport to look into |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | I have a mail/news/shell server to redo on my new machine |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | and to top it all off... kinda spending a lot of time chatting, etc with a woman... soo..... |
| [20:18:00] | flithm: | nice a real woman eh :) |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | a distant one :( |
| [20:18:00] | flithm: | tip: don't mention that you like to burn stuff. |
| [20:18:00] | flithm: | :) |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather smash things with a sledgehammer |
| [20:18:00] | flithm: | hahah yeah that's pretty good too |
| [20:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mmmm sledgehammers |
| [20:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep promising to bring mine in to work |
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| [20:20:00] | flithm: | is it to smash equipment or people? |
| [20:20:00] | EmergeTW: | why does IVTV hate VIA? |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | To be determined at the time of smashing :) |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | EmergeTW: Cause VIA has historically had lots of issues relating to lots of DMA transfers |
| [20:21:00] | flithm: | heheh |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | because VIA sucketh |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though I thought that the majority of those things had been worked around a while back |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | I'll still not buy VIA shite |
| [20:22:00] | flithm: | EmergeTW: maybe you have it backwards? |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:22:00] | EmergeTW: | flindet: heh |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Me either |
| [20:22:00] | EmergeTW: | well either way, I am getting very tired of my box crashing every 5–30 minutes |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | nforce[234]++ |
| [20:22:00] | EmergeTW: | while I am encoding/decoding |
| [20:23:00] | beavis: | where can i activate the new real time commercial flagging? |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | beavis: in the myth setup app |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | EmergeTW: I can imagine |
| [20:23:00] | flithm: | EmergeTW: maybe try turning off hardware encoding? |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not an option if he's using one of the pvr cards |
| [20:24:00] | flithm: | No? I thought I saw an option for that somewhere? |
| [20:24:00] | EmergeTW: | flindet: I am using a PVR350 |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | flithm: no. You can pull a raw yuv stream from the card, but myth doesn't deal with it |
| [20:24:00] | EmergeTW: | and since I am running this on a 900 mhz box, the load would be really high if not for the encoding |
| [20:24:00] | flithm: | I see |
| [20:24:00] | EmergeTW: | err hardware encoding |
| [20:25:00] | flithm: | maybe have to upgrade your mobo then! |
| [20:25:00] | EmergeTW: | flithm: I dont wanna spend the money :( |
| [20:25:00] | EmergeTW: | flithm: but actually I was just going to ask, if either of you could recommend a better motherboard to use with my 900mhz T-bird |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | something in an nforce2 |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | just make sure it will support your CPU *before* you buy it :) |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | or an SIS chipset |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | anything but VIA :) |
| [20:28:00] | flithm: | EmergeTW: maybe try asking in an ivtv dev channel? |
| [20:29:00] | EmergeTW: | hmm, I will, I need to reboot first though, brb |
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| [20:30:00] | flithm: | hey I know this is probably heresy, but I'm curious... I never tried freevo, mythtv is generally considered hands down superior right? |
| [20:31:00] | flithm: | n/m I just looked at some screenshots. question answered. |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:33:00] | kormoc: | I think freevo's screen shots look very similar to myths in quality... |
| [20:34:00] | Beirdo: | freevo-- |
| [20:34:00] | flithm: | no way... the guide totally sucks. no different colors, such small spaces, you can barely tell what's on. The image viewer looks pretty weak, same with music player. But I guess all that stuff is pretty subjective, plus I'm already sort of biased toward mythtv :) |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | as am I :) |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:36:00] | kormoc: | I bet if you hit enter on the image browser, it brings up the full screen mode |
| [20:36:00] | flithm: | it better! :) |
| [20:36:00] | kormoc: | as for the program guide, true, myths is a bit better in some ways, I do like the simplisticity of freevo's |
| [20:38:00] | flithm: | hrmf... to each their own I guess. That's the great thing about open source... so much choice! |
| [20:38:00] | flithm: | well one of the things anyway |
| [20:38:00] | flithm: | free is a pretty good deal too |
| [20:38:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [20:38:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: you heretic. No being objective in this channel :) |
| [20:38:00] | flithm: | hahaha |
| [20:38:00] | flithm: | :) |
| [20:39:00] | ** kormoc laughs and gets prepaired to be burnanated. ** | |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | when I last looked at freevo, it suckes real bad |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | sucked even |
| [20:39:00] | flithm: | GreyFoxx: we need your sledgehammer pronto |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | so I went to mythtv which was WAY better |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | and never looked back |
| [20:39:00] | kormoc: | yeah, the underlaying code might suck major, I donno, I never used it. |
| [20:42:00] | flithm: | do you guys get addicted to recording stuff? I found myself scheduling programs I didn't even want to watch yesterday at work. It gave me a subtle satisfaction too. I think mythtv may become problematic for me :) |
| [20:43:00] | Baylink: | A new internet addiction... :-) |
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| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | I'm certainly not addicted to the backend randomly crashing on me |
| [20:47:00] | flithm: | hmmm yeah I could see that. |
| [20:47:00] | flithm: | hasn't happened to me yet |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | every time with worthless core dumps |
| [20:47:00] | flithm: | how often does it happen? |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe. to me? |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | depends |
| [20:47:00] | flithm: | yeah |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | anywhere from once a month to 10 times a day |
| [20:48:00] | flithm: | whoa |
| [20:48:00] | flithm: | weird |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | there's SOMETHING it doesn't like and I have yet to track it down |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | and the core dumps are worthless |
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| [20:48:00] | flithm: | how come? heavily threaded? |
| [20:48:00] | flithm: | not build with debug symbols? |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and the dumps don't show anything of use. |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | I have full debug |
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| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | so I'll figure it out eventually |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | meanwhile, I get to shake my fist at my PVR :) |
| [20:49:00] | flithm: | hahaha |
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| [20:50:00] | flithm: | i knew a guy named gumby once |
| [20:51:00] | Gumby: | lol |
| [20:51:00] | flithm: | :) |
| [20:51:00] | Gumby: | did the gumby you know all of a sudden start losing his default route for no reason? |
| [20:52:00] | flithm: | unless you mean "metaphorically" I don't think so :) |
| [20:52:00] | Gumby: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | flithm: | no default route eh... you mean like default gateway networking type stuff? |
| [20:56:00] | flithm: | ip dynamically or static assigned? if static, still running a dhcp client? if dynamic, what dhcp server connecting to? if it's your own, maybe settings are not quite right... if not your own, maybe it's time to install your own :) |
| [21:00:00] | Gumby: | dynamic |
| [21:00:00] | KaiForce: | what distro Gumby? |
| [21:00:00] | Gumby: | connecting to my own dhcp server |
| [21:00:00] | Gumby: | no other machines have issues, just this one all of a sudden |
| [21:00:00] | Gumby: | debian on both |
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| [21:01:00] | flithm: | one way to tell if it's your dhcp server is you could statically assign the ip and kill the dhcp client... let it run for a while and then you'll know if that's what's doing it. (I suspect it is). One other possibility is NTP, it has a tendency to mess with your dhcp settings if you don't give it the right command line switches... other than that I can't think of anything. |
| [21:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | why in the world would ntp touch anything dhcp related ? |
| [21:03:00] | flithm: | oh sorry I got that backwards... it's dhcp that modifies ntp settings |
| [21:03:00] | flithm: | :) |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Even that sounds odd to me :) |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | ack, it's past 5! I can go home! yay |
| [21:05:00] | flithm: | totally! took me like a week to figure out why my /etc/ntp.conf was getting overwritten... sure enough... that's dhcpc's default behavior. |
| [21:05:00] | flithm: | err dhcpcd i mean |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | as it should be |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | too bad I don't want that behaviour either |
| [21:05:00] | flithm: | no offense to dhcpcd, but leave my ntp settings along! |
| [21:05:00] | flithm: | alone as well |
| [21:07:00] | flithm: | it bugs me when clocks are out of sync |
| [21:07:00] | flithm: | especially if you can see them at the same time |
| [21:08:00] | flithm: | i think it causes some kind of neural rift in my brain |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | as a default setting, dhcpcd does the right thing |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | go in and tell it not to |
| [21:08:00] | flithm: | what's that setting for anyway? does dhcp normally broadcast ntp server information and stuff? |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | if you setup your DHCP right, it would create valid ntp.conf |
| [21:08:00] | flithm: | i guess it must e |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:08:00] | flithm: | eh |
| [21:09:00] | flithm: | i see |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | NTP server addresses get pushed out in the DHCP packets |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | although I want a specific setup they can't autogen... |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't want it messing with it, tell it not to :) |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | same goes for resolv.conf |
| [21:10:00] | flithm: | yeah I eventually figured it out. it drove me nuts though, I'd edit the config, then my clock would go out of sync, I'd check and the config was reset again. Heh... pretty funny now that I think back on it. |
| [21:12:00] | flithm: | hey what part of canada you from beirdo? |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | from? :) |
| [21:12:00] | flithm: | err in? |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | grew up in Parry Sound area |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | live in Toronto |
| [21:14:00] | flithm: | oh yeah cool. just curious. I'm in calgary over here. I actually spent some time in TO last summer. I didn't find the people pretentious or rude at all (which seems to be the general rumor you hear out this way). And I like the way people drive... they just drive. Here in calgary everyone does this thing where they cut you off, and then wave like "thanks for letting me in" which is more annoying than if they had cut you off and |
| [21:14:00] | flithm: | given you the finger or something. |
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| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | you didn't get the real Toronto experience then |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | this city blows |
| [21:14:00] | flithm: | hahah |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | and people drive with their horns instead of brakes and brains |
| [21:15:00] | flithm: | heh... I guess it was one of those travelling vacation bliss kinda moments. People probably did all that to me and I was just like "Oh how nice, they're warning me about... that... discolored road line up ahead! Toronotonians are so nice!" :) |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | downtown in rush hour's always a treat |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | like the jackass that runs the amber light with his hand on the horn |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | instead of stopping |
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| [21:17:00] | flithm: | Also I took the... subway thing quite a bit, and it was so much better than the crap we have here. Seriously half the time I can walk to a place faster than on transit, even if it's like an hour walk. |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | the subway system is woefully lacking, but is nice to have |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | they need like 3 times as many routes |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | you can make do :) |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | but I live and work downtown, so I'm not too concerned about transit accessibility ;) |
| [21:20:00] | flithm: | plus I like humidity. calgary is so dry it's annoying. although I'd really miss living so close to the mountains if I moved. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | trade you |
| [21:20:00] | flithm: | heh |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | the humidity is gross |
| [21:21:00] | flithm: | yeah I seem to be relatively alone on the whole humidity thing. I don't know why but I love it. the more humid the better. If I could live in a green house I would. |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | you're odd :) |
| [21:22:00] | flithm: | heh |
| [21:22:00] | flithm: | I get told that every so often :) |
| [21:23:00] | flithm: | alright I suppose I should go... lousy work. |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:23:00] | flithm: | later eh |
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| [21:29:00] | EmergeTW: | wow |
| [21:29:00] | EmergeTW: | that was hell |
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| [21:31:00] | EmergeTW: | is ~61*C normal for a Amd Athlon? |
| [21:36:00] | FITH: | not unless it's an old one... my AMD64 3200+ sits between 40 and 55C (idle and busy) |
| [21:37:00] | FITH: | The Athlon 1200's were hot tho (when AMD used to be hotter then Intel :) |
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| [21:39:00] | EmergeTW: | mine is a 2500+ and it is running at ~51 now |
| [21:39:00] | EmergeTW: | so I am not as worried |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | FITH: my AMD64 3200+ tops out at 30C |
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| [21:46:00] | beavis: | Beirdo: with a running cpu fan? |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:47:00] | FITH: | Beirdo: Yeah, I'm in a hot room with too few fans at the moment :-/ |
| [21:47:00] | ** kormoc 's bro's 3000+ tops out at about 16C. ** | |
| [21:47:00] | kormoc: | of course, it's water cooled and all that jazz |
| [21:47:00] | FITH: | He has it outside? :) |
| [21:47:00] | FITH: | Ahh :) |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | my 3000+ tops out just over 20C |
| [21:48:00] | kormoc: | cpu, gpu, and north bridge is water cooled |
| [21:48:00] | beavis: | ok, my fans is idle most of the time so the CPU's 50C |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: such overkill in an AMD64 box |
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| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | my CPU fan's around 3000RPM |
| [21:48:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, his is a xp, not a 64 :) |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh, I missed that |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's necessary there |
| [21:48:00] | ** kormoc didn't realize that you guys were talking a64 ** | |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | makes a HUGE difference :) |
| [21:49:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I've heard that it does quite a bit |
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| [21:56:00] | beavis: | my cpu fan's at 1500 once an hour |
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| [22:11:00] | MDD: | nabend... |
| [22:11:00] | beavis: | MDD: #mythtv-de if you want to talk deutsch ;) |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | w00t! |
| [22:19:00] | Cromz: | field goal with a small dog? |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | I bought this DVD Medic kit to repair a couple scratched CDs that the laptop wouldn't rip properly |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | and $7 and a few minutes of hard rubbing later, they work fine |
| [22:20:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | basically, you slightly melt the surface of the the cd with friction while working this solution into the scratch |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | much like some swirl-remover, etc products for auto finishes |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | and it worked :) |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo. $7 spent. $40 saved |
| [22:23:00] | xris: | I've found that toothpaste works just as well. |
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| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | likely depends on the type of toothpaste |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | yeah. you need something with calcium. Crest seems to be the preferred. |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | don't use Arm & Hammer with baking soda... :) |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | scratch scratch scratch :) |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | since you're basically just polishing out the scratches. |
| [22:24:00] | kormoc: | Mmm... Baking Soda... |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [22:24:00] | ** xris is at a loss for a quirky reply. ** | |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | Mmm. vinegar |
| [22:25:00] | ** Beirdo watches kormoc turn into a volcano ** | |
| [22:25:00] | ** kormoc laughs as he recalls doing that as a kid. ** | |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | this CD is just fine now. sumbitch :) |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | I remember it skipping in the car all the time too |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | and of COURSE, it had to be one of my fave songs on the album |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | Van Halen – Can't Stop Lovin' You |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | (on the Balance album) |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | I woulda bought a replacement too |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | ahhhh, Van Halen goodness |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I remembered to buy the ticket for the Santana concert :) |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | U2 in September |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | And Sarah McLachlan in 2 weeks or so... hmmm |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
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| [22:39:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [22:46:00] | EmergeTW: | Ok, brand new motherboard for my MythTV box :) |
| [22:46:00] | EmergeTW: | Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe :) |
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| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | that should do. nForce2 :) |
| [23:02:00] | EmergeTW: | yup |
| [23:03:00] | EmergeTW: | And guess what processor is going in that box... |
| [23:03:00] | EmergeTW: | Yup you guessed it, the 900mhz TBIRD! |
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| [23:04:00] | tyrese: | I have FINALLY joined the ranks fo Myth Users! |
| [23:04:00] | tyrese: | But I'm still stumped |
| [23:04:00] | EmergeTW: | tyrese: join the club |
| [23:04:00] | EmergeTW (EmergeTW@68.156.9.114) Quit () | |
| [23:05:00] | tyrese: | I scp'd all my avi, mpg, mpeg files to my Mythbox.... to the directory /myth/video ... and I can't see them in the interface |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | you need to tell it to rescan the dir |
| [23:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | tyrese have you run the video manager? |
| [23:05:00] | tyrese: | My music works fine ... it's my video that's killing me |
| [23:05:00] | tyrese: | video mangager ... I believe I did |
| [23:06:00] | tyrese: | HUH!? |
| [23:06:00] | tyrese: | I just ran it again! And they are all there! Man I feel dumb! |
| [23:07:00] | tyrese: | GeckoFiend, it's the smallest things! |
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| [23:11:00] | Ivan_A: | my on air EPG has stopped working, anyone know where I should look to find out why? could it be to do with the 0.18 upgrade? |
| [23:12:00] | Ivan_A: | im using DVB-T in the UK |
| [23:12:00] | Cromz: | lol my wife wanted to fast forward through livetv :> |
| [23:12:00] | dopester: | none of that code changed |
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| [23:13:00] | AndyCap: | Cromz: that's why I've pretty much stopped watching live tv. :-) |
| [23:13:00] | Cromz: | AndyCap: ya but I'm watchign while recording lol |
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| [23:17:00] | EmergeTW: | Wow, I hate life |
| [23:17:00] | kormoc: | ? |
| [23:17:00] | EmergeTW: | I dont have a 8x agp graphics card to go in this new board |
| [23:17:00] | EmergeTW: | all my spare cards are 4x |
| [23:17:00] | ** kormoc thought it was 8x/4x ** | |
| [23:18:00] | EmergeTW: | apg4x cards wont fit in a agp8x slot |
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| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | I was under the impression that the same slot did 4x and 8x |
| [23:20:00] | EmergeTW: | kormoc: well if you can make a 3dfx Voodoo Banshee fit in the AGP slot of a Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, you are a much better man than I |
| [23:21:00] | kormoc: | woah, my banshee was a apg 2x card :) |
| [23:22:00] | EmergeTW: | oops |
| [23:22:00] | EmergeTW: | that is what I ment |
| [23:22:00] | EmergeTW: | sry |
| [23:22:00] | EmergeTW: | all my spare cards are 4x |
| [23:22:00] | EmergeTW: | lol |
| [23:22:00] | EmergeTW: | damn it |
| [23:23:00] | kormoc: | you mean 2x? :) |
| [23:23:00] | EmergeTW: | I am retarded |
| [23:23:00] | EmergeTW: | 2x |
| [23:23:00] | EmergeTW: | and _THEY_ wont fit in the 8x slot |
| [23:23:00] | kormoc: | Yeah, cause the 4x and 8x slots are the same :) |
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| [23:24:00] | EmergeTW: | Damn it, I really dont want to spend $40 on a card that I will use once... when I install knoppmyth |
| [23:24:00] | EmergeTW: | after that the pvr350 will do all the displaying to the tv |
| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | blindboot and start up sshd? |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | EmergeTW: borrow a card from another machine? |
| [23:25:00] | EmergeTW: | kormoc: xris, Yeah, that is what I am going to have to do... from this one =\ |
| [23:25:00] | EmergeTW: | wow, s/kormoc: xris/xris: |
| [23:25:00] | monkeyBox: | I'm getting this error while compiling mythfrontend: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL What does this mean? |
| [23:25:00] | EmergeTW: | kormoc: if I were installing gentoo on the box, I would do exactly that |
| [23:26:00] | EmergeTW: | kormoc: but unforunately knoppmyth cannot be installed that way |
| [23:26:00] | EmergeTW: | anyway, time to shutdown so I can rip this video card out |
| [23:26:00] | kormoc: | EmergeTW, boot up a gentoo disk and install knoppix manually :) |
| [23:27:00] | ** EmergeTW ponders doing so... ** | |
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| [23:28:00] | NightMonkey: | lucas333: Ping? |
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| [23:31:00] | lucas333: | nightmonkey: pong |
| [23:31:00] | lucas333: | just got back home. |
| [23:31:00] | lucas333: | downloads seem dinished. |
| [23:31:00] | lucas333: | thanks a million.. I already looked at one episode earlier today. |
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| [23:32:00] | lucas333: | it was funny, because I myself "flagged" it wrong.. I thought the beginning of that recording was commercial.. but it turned out to be part of the show. |
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| [23:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | anyone have a name / manufacturer for those "studio capture cards" that eveyone says exist for doing component based capturing? |
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| [23:54:00] | Baylink: | You know what would be cool? If the auto-scheduler tagged things it inserted by which search rule created them; that's what would be cool. :-) |
| [23:56:00] | adante: | anyone running gentoo? is the .18 ebuild safe to use? |
| [23:56:00] | ikarus: | yep |
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