| Sunday, April 24th, 2005, 00:04 UTC | ||
| [00:04:00] | lashkar: | where does mythtv store the settings? |
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| [00:04:00] | CygnusX1: | Hmmm...any issue with running startx -e mythfrontend --seems to be working well with no window manager |
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| [00:16:00] | loto: | Is there a common reason why changing channels does not work when watching live tv? (schedualed recordings change the channel correctly) |
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| [00:21:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: get remote to work yet? |
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| [00:30:00] | CygnusX1: | lol. No. |
| [00:31:00] | CygnusX1: | I can't even get it to come up with IRW now. |
| [00:31:00] | CygnusX1: | er, irw |
| [00:33:00] | mchou: | sigh...... |
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| [00:33:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: you get latest from cvs? |
| [00:36:00] | Agrajag-: | does the media monitor work for anyone? i just can't get it to do anything when i insert a dvd |
| [00:38:00] | ikaro: | im having a wierd issue with the program guide window, the preview its being shown in the top left corner, instead of the upper right corner. |
| [00:42:00] | ikaro: | really wird .. |
| [00:42:00] | lashkar: | anyone been able to get a pvr350 type 47 to work flawlessly? |
| [00:42:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, I grabbbed it, haven't tried yet. I started a nuvexport job that is taking forever. |
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| [00:56:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: you around? |
| [00:59:00] | defaultro: | hi mchou, just got back |
| [00:59:00] | defaultro: | hey, im glad, my spdif connector arrived. Am about to install it :) |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | optical? |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | defaultro: ^^ |
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| [01:16:00] | AndyCap: | hmm, is there a way to make nuvexport give the files more meaningful names. (for instance with the date and callsign or something?) |
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| [01:20:00] | CygnusX1: | I can't figure out where nuvexport put my file |
| [01:20:00] | CygnusX1: | what is the extension on nuvs output files? |
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| [01:24:00] | stoffel: | find / -mtime -1 ;) |
| [01:26:00] | CygnusX1: | what the heck is that? |
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| [01:28:00] | defaultro: | mchou, yes, optical and coaxial |
| [01:28:00] | defaultro: | it's booting up right now |
| [01:29:00] | mchou: | god damn..... |
| [01:30:00] | mchou: | this is pretty fubar. |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks: | has anybody got a 150 to work with ivtv 3.3g? |
| [01:31:00] | defaultro: | what is foobared? |
| [01:31:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: it works here no problem. |
| [01:31:00] | CygnusX1: | jmarcks, I have NTSC 150 working with 3.3h perfectly except for remote |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | mvhou, how? i cant get any thing to show up! |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | h?? |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | hmnmmm |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | lol. those versions increase quick!!! |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | yep |
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| [01:32:00] | Cromz: | I thought 3.2z was latest :O |
| [01:33:00] | jemarcks: | cygnusX1, do you have it on tuner 0 or composite? |
| [01:35:00] | jemarcks: | im editing the xorg.conf to switch from the monitor to the TV |
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| [01:37:00] | mchou: | sigh, this router is a piece of crap. |
| [01:37:00] | defaultro: | bam, my yamaha receiver can see the 5.1 channels :D |
| [01:37:00] | defaultro: | mchou, it worked!!! |
| [01:38:00] | mchou: | defaultro: good, it's supposed to :) |
| [01:38:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [01:38:00] | defaultro: | earlier, it was only seeing 2 channels until I check ac3 passthrough |
| [01:38:00] | jemarcks: | how do i reduce the resolution so it looks good on the TV? |
| [01:38:00] | jemarcks: | im editing xorg.conf |
| [01:39:00] | jemarcks: | cygnusX1, did you set yours up wiht Jarods guide? |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | goddamn router has no caching name server of lan??? wtf? |
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| [01:43:00] | mchou: | sigh, this sux. |
| [01:43:00] | jemarcks: | i hear ya |
| [01:43:00] | jemarcks: | i cant get my 150 to work |
| [01:43:00] | jemarcks: | :/ |
| [01:43:00] | mchou: | 150 works jsut fine. |
| [01:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | I just want sound to work right on my PVR-500 |
| [01:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | then I wil be a happy camper |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | paste your ivtv log to pastebin if you want professional diagnosis |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: ^^^^ |
| [01:44:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, how do i do that? |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | otherwise forget about it. |
| [01:45:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i can get you the log if you want to look... how do i show you? |
| [01:45:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, I am running on Slackware |
| [01:45:00] | jemarcks: | I am on FC3 |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | someone please instruct jemarcks how to paste log in pastebin.com |
| [01:45:00] | jemarcks: | you learn somthing every day... cool. |
| [01:45:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, I am using tuner 0 |
| [01:46:00] | jemarcks: | cygnusX1, so am I. |
| [01:46:00] | CygnusX1: | Isn't composite for input from a VCR or something? (RCA) |
| [01:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | why is my firefox pop up menu a mile long |
| [01:46:00] | jemarcks: | yeah. i think so. i have a DTV satalite receiver |
| [01:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | somebody has been busy with ivtv updates |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: you got log up? |
| [01:48:00] | jemarcks: | yeah. im looking at pastebin to see how to post...\ |
| [01:49:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, ok i posted it to pastebin.com |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | come on. link it here then |
| [01:50:00] | jemarcks: | how do i link it? |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | god damn. |
| [01:50:00] | jemarcks: | http://www.pastebin.com/275092 |
| [01:51:00] | jemarcks: | like that? |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | looks like its working |
| [01:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | the american movie industry and car industry are lacking creativity these days |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | what's the problem? |
| [01:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have decided that |
| [01:53:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, all i get on the screen is static. i have the input set to tuner 0 |
| [01:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | did you try source 1? |
| [01:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | ivtvctl -p 1 |
| [01:54:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, yes, i tried 0–3, tuner 0 and svideo too. |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | output of 'ivtvctrl -a' in pastebin. |
| [01:54:00] | CygnusX1: | Does myth stream video from a backend to a remote frontend? |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | also as root, do: modinfo tuner and paste the path info. |
| [01:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | you never asked for my ivtvctl -a |
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| [01:55:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: I told you what to do already. Get a vanilla kernel. |
| [01:55:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, set your tuner to type 39 and try that |
| [01:56:00] | jemarcks: | http://www.pastebin.com/275094 |
| [01:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | I doubt it is kernel related |
| [01:56:00] | jemarcks: | type 39? in mythtvsetup? |
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| [01:56:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: if you don't heed my advice I'm not inclined to dispense it. |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: your tuner is working. |
| [01:57:00] | jemarcks: | this is my first mythtv box so be gentle. i have been useing linux for years however. |
| [01:57:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, No...that would be in your modprobe.conf...a line like :options ivtv tuner=39,50 ivtv_std=1,1 tda9887=0 |
| [01:57:00] | jemarcks: | oh ok |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: why you recomending 39? |
| [01:57:00] | jemarcks: | i didnt, cygnus did |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: do not do 39 just yet. |
| [01:57:00] | jemarcks: | ok |
| [01:57:00] | jemarcks: | what would you liek to see next? |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: why are you recommending 39? |
| [01:58:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, because it works for me |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: 39?? |
| [01:58:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm |
| [01:58:00] | CygnusX1: | tuner: type set to 39 (LG NTSC (newer TAPC series)) by ivtv i2c driver #0 |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | tveeprom says 50 for him. I'm more incline to believe that than a swag. |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | also as root, do: modinfo tuner and paste the path info. |
| [01:59:00] | jemarcks: | k |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: ^^^ |
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| [02:00:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, It said 50 for me too |
| [02:01:00] | jemarcks: | http://www.pastebin.com/275095 |
| [02:01:00] | jemarcks: | mchou: ^^ |
| [02:01:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, mchou is the expert....this is my first foray into Linux TV. I am just saying what has worked for me. |
| [02:01:00] | jemarcks: | cygnusX1, thanks for you help. this is my first myth box as well |
| [02:02:00] | jemarcks: | Please dont make me run to MCE2005! |
| [02:02:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [02:02:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: you are using the old tuner module. I believe. |
| [02:02:00] | jemarcks: | oh? how can you tell and what do i do? |
| [02:02:00] | jemarcks: | I got this pvr150 at Frys last weekend. came with a remote and a IR receiver |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: find /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3 -name "tuner*" |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: how much was it at Frys? |
| [02:03:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, it was $89 with a $20 rebait |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: hmm, not bad. CC had it for $60 this week AR. |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | [root@mythtv1 mythtv]# find /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3 -name "tuner*" |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/tuner-ivtv.ko |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/build/include/config/video/tuner |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/build/include/config/tuner |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/build/include/media/tuner.h |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner-3036.ko |
| [02:04:00] | jemarcks: | [root@mythtv1 mythtv]# |
| [02:05:00] | jemarcks: | yeah, i got all the hardware to build this last week :) |
| [02:06:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: about what day did you build ivtv driver last? |
| [02:06:00] | jemarcks: | i did a apt-get ivtv this morning |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | no wonder it's fubar |
| [02:07:00] | jemarcks: | ?? |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | '/lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/tuner-ivtv.ko |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | and |
| [02:07:00] | jemarcks: | did i mess up and install the wrong thing... ? |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | '/lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | which one do you think is the right driver? |
| [02:08:00] | jemarcks: | the 1st one? |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | find the dates on those two files. |
| [02:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | hee haw |
| [02:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | now you can order the dvds |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | most likely the first one is the proper one. |
| [02:09:00] | jemarcks: | Apr 22 10:40 |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: you'd be better off compiling ivtv from source anyways. |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | the dates for both files. |
| [02:10:00] | jemarcks: | i dont have the 2nd file listed |
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| [02:10:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: what do you mean? |
| [02:11:00] | jemarcks: | ls: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko: No such file or directory |
| [02:11:00] | mchou: | you just found the file by using find. |
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| [02:11:00] | mchou: | look again carefully at the path of the second file. |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | and what you just typed. |
| [02:12:00] | jemarcks: | -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 28924 Apr 7 18:52 /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko |
| [02:12:00] | jemarcks: | one is in updates the other is in kernel |
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| [02:12:00] | mchou: | well well, so which one you suppose is the right driver? |
| [02:13:00] | jemarcks: | the ivtv driver is my bet. but tuner.ko is in the kernel dir. |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | tuner-ivtv is the correct file. |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | mv tuner.ko to tuner.ko.bak or something |
| [02:14:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. so now what do i do next? im learning here. |
| [02:14:00] | jemarcks: | k |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | and mv tuner-ivtv.ko to tuner.ko |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | depmod -a |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | reboot. |
| [02:15:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, ummm.. they are in different dirs. |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | gimme $40 for my time. |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | and then it will work :) |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: so? |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | what you want me to do about that? |
| [02:16:00] | jemarcks: | so i should move tuner-ivtv.ko from drivers to kernel? |
| [02:16:00] | mchou: | did I say that? |
| [02:17:00] | jemarcks: | no, you said to mv tuner-ivtv.ko to tuner.ko |
| [02:17:00] | jemarcks: | right? |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | right. so what do you think you should do? |
| [02:17:00] | jemarcks: | tuner-ivtv.ko is in /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | so? |
| [02:18:00] | jemarcks: | so, i sould just rename /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/tuner-ivtv.ko to tuner.ko? |
| [02:18:00] | jemarcks: | in the same dir? |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | yes, in the same dir |
| [02:18:00] | jemarcks: | ohh.. ok |
| [02:19:00] | jemarcks: | done |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | and do modinfo tuner and give me the path output this time. |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | dont bother with pastebin. |
| [02:20:00] | fryfrog: | has anyone heard of some software that lets you control another system from your own system in a manner similar to multi-desktop in windows? |
| [02:20:00] | fryfrog: | you mouse over the lft/right/top/bottom and it takes over the kb/mouse from another computer? |
| [02:20:00] | fryfrog: | i read about it recently, but for the life of me i can't remember the name |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: you hacker :) |
| [02:20:00] | jemarcks: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/tuner.ko |
| [02:21:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, is this right? |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | hacker? |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | no, its like VNC but... different |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: depmod -a and reboot |
| [02:21:00] | chuggachuu: | fryfrog: KVM switch ? |
| [02:21:00] | jemarcks: | rebooting.... |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | sorta, but its software |
| [02:21:00] | CygnusX1: | X, VNC |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | your "target" runs a server and the client runs on your main station |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: who are you trying to hack? |
| [02:22:00] | jemarcks: | mvhou, jarods guide needs some work here i think ;) |
| [02:22:00] | fryfrog: | mchou: i'm not trying to hack anyone, what in the world makes you think that? |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: no it doesnt |
| [02:22:00] | Cromz: | fryfrog: synergy from sourceforge |
| [02:22:00] | fryfrog: | thats it! |
| [02:22:00] | fryfrog: | thanks cromz :) |
| [02:22:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: why do you need take over mouse then? |
| [02:22:00] | lashkar: | any ideas how to troubleshoot no audio with tv out on a pvr350? |
| [02:22:00] | fryfrog: | no no |
| [02:22:00] | fryfrog: | imagine you have 3 systems with 3 monitors |
| [02:22:00] | fryfrog: | instead of having a KVM or 3kb/mice |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | ahh, ok, I see... |
| [02:23:00] | fryfrog: | you hook kb mouse to system one, run synergy client on system 1 |
| [02:23:00] | fryfrog: | then system 2 and 3 run synergy server |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | that's different :) |
| [02:23:00] | fryfrog: | mouse off left, takes over system 2, mouse off right takes over system 3 |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | yeah yeah.... |
| [02:23:00] | fryfrog: | i guess my description was bad :) |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | kvm with mouse and multiple systems :) |
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| [02:24:00] | mchou: | that's proper description :) |
| [02:24:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, depmod -a done, reboot finished. |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | alright. should be working :) |
| [02:24:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, looking... |
| [02:24:00] | fryfrog: | exactly! |
| [02:25:00] | fryfrog: | kvm w/o a hardware kvm :) |
| [02:25:00] | fryfrog: | Synergy2 sound right? |
| [02:25:00] | mchou: | yeah, something like that. |
| [02:25:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i get static and then it dumps to a scree saying 'error was encountered while displaying video' |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: how are you testing this? |
| [02:27:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i have the output of my DTV receiver hooked to the 150 input. (coax) |
| [02:27:00] | mchou: | no, on the computer, I talking about. |
| [02:28:00] | mchou: | what gives you this message? |
| [02:28:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, mythfrontend |
| [02:28:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [02:28:00] | mchou: | you obviously havent read the ivtv docs. cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg is preferred. |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | go reat that part and try that stuff first. |
| [02:29:00] | jemarcks: | i did that a few days ago with the same results |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | tghis is thru sivideo, right? |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | this* |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | coax means you need to be tuned to channel 3/4 if I'm not mistaken. |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | try svideo first to make sure svid works. |
| [02:31:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i have it set to tuner 0 |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | kind of pointless using coax on DTV recever anyways. |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | coax means you need to be tuned to channel 3/4 if I'm not mistaken. |
| [02:32:00] | jemarcks: | i am tuned to channel 3 |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | not according to ivtv log. |
| [02:32:00] | jemarcks: | ?? |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_FREQUENCY ~ Frequency = 0 |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | that's from your dump earlier. |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | lines 107 to 108 |
| [02:33:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... ok. it seems i have something set wrong in the mythtvsetup then. |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | why do you want to coax with DTV anyways? |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | that's just silly. (it degrades picture quality) |
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| [02:35:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i was just testing things. i have a svideo hook up to it as well. |
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| [02:35:00] | mchou: | well, give svid a whirl first :) |
| [02:36:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, ok.. hang on a min while i config... |
| [02:36:00] | mchou: | damn, I need to return this router. |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | piece of junk. |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | no local caching dns. |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | crazy. |
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| [02:39:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, why not put together an IPCOP or m0n0wall box? |
| [02:40:00] | fryfrog: | ipcop makes me a happy woman... and i'm not even a woman! |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | Cause it would be a box I need administer. I have such a box, want to get rid of it (electricit) :) |
| [02:40:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, IT WORKS! :))) |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: of course it works. |
| [02:41:00] | jemarcks: | thanks man. |
| [02:41:00] | jemarcks: | how did i get it messed up (for future reference) |
| [02:41:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: now you need check yuner |
| [02:41:00] | mchou: | tuner* |
| [02:41:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. how? |
| [02:41:00] | CygnusX1: | lol fryfrog |
| [02:42:00] | mchou: | unplug svid from dtv box. |
| [02:42:00] | jemarcks: | why? |
| [02:42:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, not sure if m0n0 has caching DNS, but, you can run it on a tiny soekris box |
| [02:42:00] | mchou: | because I'm not sure if coax still works on DTV is svid is plugged in. |
| [02:43:00] | CygnusX1: | it does have caching DNS. go for m0n0. |
| [02:43:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, oh ok |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: nah, looks like I have to bite bullet and buy linksys wrt54G and hack that. |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | didn't really want to spend $40 when I could get one for $10. |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | but $10 aint doing the job. |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i unplugged svid and the picture went away. |
| [02:45:00] | jemarcks: | i have coax from DTV to TV and svidio from myth to TV. |
| [02:45:00] | mchou: | right. now in myth-setup set tuner to coax...... |
| [02:45:00] | mchou: | nono... |
| [02:45:00] | mchou: | coax from DTV to 150.... |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | no svid on DTV for this test. |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | disconnect that svid from DTV box |
| [02:46:00] | jemarcks: | ohhhh.. you want to see if it works on the coax |
| [02:46:00] | jemarcks: | i had it that way before when you told me to use svid. |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | for now, yes. I assuming you want everything on 150 to work. |
| [02:46:00] | jemarcks: | ill check again but i dont think it will work. |
| [02:47:00] | jemarcks: | yep |
| [02:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | any good howto on how to setup serial control of a directv box in myth? |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | otherwise if you satisfied with svid, just use svid. |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: why not? |
| [02:47:00] | jemarcks: | we know that svid now works... |
| [02:48:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, after i switched drivers as you said to, it didnt work until i switched to svid. |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | yeah, but you dont know that the tuner on 150. |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | sigh. some ppl need a brain transplant :) |
| [02:49:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [02:49:00] | jemarcks: | sorry.. im learning here. |
| [02:49:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i will go try it with coax and report back in a few min... hang on. |
| [02:50:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, you need a nap. :-) |
| [02:50:00] | CygnusX1: | Pulling a Kramer |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | this router is really a piece of crap. |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | I need to return it asap. |
| [02:50:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: chuck it at a car |
| [02:51:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you know what's lame?? I cant figure out how to take the case apart to do a field upgrade of flash :) |
| [02:52:00] | ** Beirdo hands mchou a hammer ** | |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | fucking case is tighter than fort knox :) |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | there might be instructions somewhere online |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a slot screwdriver and a hammer can't open |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | Instructions says remove two screws, and unclip...... |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | but the clips are super tight. |
| [02:53:00] | Beirdo: | whether or not it will go back together's another story |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | they might as well have glued it :) |
| [02:53:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [02:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | ugh |
| [02:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | dare I touch the button editor in mythweb |
| [02:55:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [02:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | I must figure out a good layout for my firefly |
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| [02:56:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, coax does not work |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | sure it works. |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | oh yeah? |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks: | i went to input connections in setup and set composite 0 to my DTV source... |
| [02:58:00] | mchou: | ivtvctl -R |
| [02:58:00] | jemarcks: | then in live TV i changed the input source to all 3 inputs i have setup |
| [02:58:00] | mchou: | tell me what that says. |
| [02:58:00] | jemarcks: | Frequency = 980 |
| [02:58:00] | mchou: | that's channel 3 or 4? |
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| [02:59:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, btw, my audio isnt working either. ;/ |
| [02:59:00] | jemarcks: | i hooked a cable from my lineout to the TV |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | ivtvctl -P |
| [03:00:00] | jemarcks: | Input = 0 |
| [03:00:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: you know the drill. all the files you need are in the updates directory. |
| [03:00:00] | mchou: | you got some cruf lying around. |
| [03:00:00] | mchou: | cruft. |
| [03:01:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, updates dir eh? ok.. let me look around |
| [03:01:00] | mchou: | I dont see why ppl just dont compile from ivtv source, makes life so much simpler. |
| [03:01:00] | [Klatuu]: | I compile from source |
| [03:01:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i was following Jarods guide to install it all and just run. oh well |
| [03:02:00] | mchou: | dumb ass rpm pacakages cause more trouble than help. |
| [03:02:00] | jemarcks: | i can compile from source but i need to get setup first |
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| [03:04:00] | jemarcks: | crap.. audio isnt working |
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| [03:05:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: are you an [Klatuu] one and the same person? |
| [03:05:00] | [Klatuu]: | no |
| [03:05:00] | CygnusX1: | Is there some obvious way I am missing to move recordings to the video library while retaining episode information and such? |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | cause you both singing the same song :) |
| [03:05:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, NO |
| [03:05:00] | [Klatuu]: | it just means the problem affects many people |
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| [03:06:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: lol :) |
| [03:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | I get sound by switching to tuner 0 first |
| [03:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | then switching to svideo |
| [03:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | but the sound is crappy |
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| [03:06:00] | jemarcks: | i get 'hisssssssssssssssssssssss' on tuner 0 |
| [03:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | nothing connected to the tuner on mine |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: modinfo wm9775 |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | and gimme path for that. |
| [03:07:00] | jemarcks: | modinfo: could not find module wm9775 |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | same with cx25840 |
| [03:07:00] | [Klatuu]: | wm8775 |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | yeah, what [Klatuu] said. |
| [03:08:00] | ** [Klatuu] has been down this road before ** | |
| [03:08:00] | jemarcks: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/wm8775.ko |
| [03:08:00] | jemarcks: | description: wm8775 driver |
| [03:08:00] | mchou: | and saa7115 |
| [03:08:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: wm8775 checks out. |
| [03:08:00] | jemarcks: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/saa7115.ko |
| [03:08:00] | jemarcks: | description: Philips SAA7115 video decoder driver |
| [03:08:00] | mchou: | 7115 checks out. |
| [03:08:00] | [Klatuu]: | I don't understand what the saa7115 has to do with a PVR-150/500 |
| [03:09:00] | mchou: | cx25840 |
| [03:09:00] | jemarcks: | yeah, i did everything Jarods guide said yesterday and it never worked.. |
| [03:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | I thought that only is for the PVR-350 |
| [03:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | for the decoder |
| [03:09:00] | jemarcks: | when i installed FC3 for the first time last week, it played a test sound that worked. |
| [03:09:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: cx25840 |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/cx25840.ko |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | description: CX25840 Broadcast audio and video decoder driver |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | msp3400 |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | parmtype: opmode:int |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | tda9850 too. |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | msp3400 DOE NOT check out. |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | DOES* NOT |
| [03:11:00] | jemarcks: | modinfo: could not find module tda9850 |
| [03:12:00] | ** [Klatuu] ponders what to get working since he can't get sound working right now ** | |
| [03:12:00] | mchou: | try tda9840 |
| [03:13:00] | jemarcks: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/tda9840.ko |
| [03:13:00] | jemarcks: | parmtype: debug:int |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | msp3400 is problematic. |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | on your system. |
| [03:15:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, whats that? |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | <jemarcks> filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400. |
| [03:15:00] | jemarcks: | ohok |
| [03:16:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, btw thanks for your help tonite. I am in Austin TX |
| [03:16:00] | mchou: | you gonna send over a barbeque posse? :) |
| [03:16:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [03:17:00] | jemarcks: | lol... yeah, lots of brisket and ribs! ;) |
| [03:17:00] | mchou: | you know, I was disappointed with brisket in austin...... |
| [03:17:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, where did you eat it? |
| [03:18:00] | mchou: | went to 3 places an they ere all unremarkable. |
| [03:18:00] | mchou: | were* |
| [03:18:00] | mchou: | dont remember the names...... |
| [03:18:00] | jemarcks: | Salt Lick? |
| [03:18:00] | jemarcks: | Rudys? |
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| [03:18:00] | mchou: | but remember the descriptions..... |
| [03:19:00] | mchou: | one was a nice restaurant perched on a clipp overlooking river. |
| [03:19:00] | jemarcks: | river? hmmmm |
| [03:19:00] | mchou: | had mexican pastel colors, like pastel green or blue. |
| [03:19:00] | mchou: | cliff* |
| [03:19:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm.. was it the Oasis? |
| [03:20:00] | mchou: | could be.... |
| [03:20:00] | mchou: | huge ass parking lot. |
| [03:20:00] | jemarcks: | thats on lake travis... food is so-so. the environemt and the VIEW is the big draw there. |
| [03:20:00] | mchou: | ok, lake, forgive me :) |
| [03:20:00] | jemarcks: | lot of statues and art? |
| [03:21:00] | mchou: | then AJ stubbs was a complete rip. |
| [03:21:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: yeah. |
| [03:21:00] | mchou: | then there was this place right on the creek...... |
| [03:21:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i have been to Stubbs several times and it was pretty good bbq. |
| [03:22:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: I've had much better. |
| [03:22:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, so have I |
| [03:22:00] | jemarcks: | :P |
| [03:23:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: so for brisket, whats a good place in austin? I like spicy :) |
| [03:23:00] | mchou: | and tender, you know, melt in your mouth feel.... |
| [03:23:00] | mchou: | brisket that "flakes off" |
| [03:24:00] | mchou: | Ithink all the restaurants I went to were the wrong places. need a "hole in the wall" joint :) |
| [03:24:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, Rudys is good. |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | Is Rudy's downtown austin or where? |
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| [03:25:00] | jemarcks: | Rudys has a north location and a south location on 360 |
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| [03:26:00] | jemarcks: | also try BBQ at the Salt Lick. |
| [03:26:00] | jemarcks: | kicks ass! |
| [03:26:00] | mchou: | ok, I'm gonna have to keep that in mind next time I visit. |
| [03:26:00] | mchou: | Salt lick is a chain, no? |
| [03:26:00] | mchou: | (I avoid chains like plague) |
| [03:26:00] | jemarcks: | salt lick is not a chain (yet) and is south of town in a small place called 'drift wood' |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | oh, ok, that's different Salt lick then. |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | there is a chain called Salt Lick though. |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | beef is their "specialty" |
| [03:28:00] | jemarcks: | where at? |
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| [03:28:00] | mchou: | more like disaster. |
| [03:28:00] | jemarcks: | not the same place i bet |
| [03:28:00] | mchou: | nationwide, I think. |
| [03:28:00] | jemarcks: | this is local and been here for over 10 years |
| [03:28:00] | [Klatuu]: | grrr |
| [03:28:00] | jemarcks: | looking to expand i heard on the news |
| [03:28:00] | [Klatuu]: | if I try to run mythtv as root the computer locks up |
| [03:29:00] | jemarcks: | ill buy you a brisket plate if you help me get my audio working.:P |
| [03:29:00] | jemarcks: | klatuu, ewwwww... dont do that |
| [03:29:00] | jemarcks: | just run it as 'mythtv' user |
| [03:29:00] | [Klatuu]: | I was trying to rule out a permissions problem |
| [03:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | it wasn't going to be a perm thing |
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| [03:31:00] | mchou: | marmoset: hehe, got yer 500 workin' ? |
| [03:32:00] | marmoset: | sort of |
| [03:32:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, can i use my old 800Mhz Duron system as a myth box? |
| [03:32:00] | marmoset: | but not quite |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: that good for a backend. I use P2 450 :) |
| [03:32:00] | jemarcks: | wow... an oldie |
| [03:32:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [03:32:00] | marmoset: | it's low quality, and it's only half the image (like, it looks like it's zoomed in on the left half of the screen) |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | I terabyte of storage in there |
| [03:33:00] | mchou: | marmoset: what version driver? |
| [03:33:00] | marmoset: | 0.3.2s |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | marmoset: nah, go for 3.3f/g. That's been fixed since then. |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | might even be fixed in h :) |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | but I wouldn't know :) |
| [03:34:00] | marmoset: | I tried h, it didn't work |
| [03:34:00] | marmoset: | but I may have fixed that since then with something else |
| [03:34:00] | marmoset: | I'll try a 3.3 |
| [03:34:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, i dont know where to start with this audio problem. i have a ASUS motherboard i got last week with a SiS chipet. sounded good. should i repeat the install in jarods guide for audio?\ |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: find /lib/modules/blah -name "msp3400*" |
| [03:35:00] | marmoset: | heh, new family guy is actually pretty good |
| [03:35:00] | marmoset: | for a return-from-the-dead show |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: I figure by now you ought to know the drill. |
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| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | mchou: /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/msp3400-ivtv.ko |
| [03:38:00] | jemarcks: | /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | well well..... |
| [03:38:00] | marmoset: | ah, my old friend ENC IRQ OVERFLOW |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | you know the drill. |
| [03:39:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, the one in updates looks like the one to rename |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | marmoset: nforce2 or epia |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | ?? |
| [03:39:00] | marmoset: | nforce2 |
| [03:39:00] | marmoset: | with 3.3h |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | marmoset: lapic off? |
| [03:39:00] | marmoset: | it normally doesn't happy |
| [03:39:00] | marmoset: | er |
| [03:39:00] | marmoset: | happen |
| [03:40:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, so let me make sure before i nuke myself... |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | marmoset: you must be overclocking :) |
| [03:40:00] | marmoset: | nope |
| [03:40:00] | marmoset: | I think it's a bug in h |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | could be. |
| [03:40:00] | jemarcks: | i should mv kernel/dkernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko to drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko.old |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | f and g both work for me. |
| [03:41:00] | marmoset: | sourceforge should be drawn and quartered for their download system |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | marmoset: no doubt. |
| [03:41:00] | jemarcks: | then... mv updates/drivers/media/video/msp3400-ivtv.ko msp3400.ko? |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: you got it. |
| [03:41:00] | jemarcks: | cool |
| [03:41:00] | jemarcks: | then a /sbin/depmod -s ; reboot |
| [03:41:00] | jemarcks: | then a /sbin/depmod -a ; reboot |
| [03:42:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: while you're at this. do find ... -name "saa*" |
| [03:42:00] | mchou: | basically anything in /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.14_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ needs to be renamed :) |
| [03:43:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, http://www.pastebin.com/275118 |
| [03:43:00] | jemarcks: | ohhhhhhhhhhh |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | marmoset: let me qualify by saying that I dont have nforce2 though. |
| [03:43:00] | marmoset: | mchou: yeah, I don't think it's related to that tho |
| [03:44:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, ok, why do i need to do all this after following Jarods guide? |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | marmoset: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW might be :) |
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| [03:45:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: because you didnt compile from source. How man times I got to give you this hint? |
| [03:45:00] | marmoset: | mchou: I don't think so, since 3.2 works "ok" with no errors, and 3.3 gives no video at all, just irq overflows |
| [03:45:00] | mchou: | even f/g? |
| [03:45:00] | jemarcks: | ok ok.. duh. lol |
| [03:46:00] | marmoset: | yeah, just tried g |
| [03:46:00] | mchou: | marmoset: well, that's a real shame. |
| [03:49:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, does the channel change program Jarod recomens for a RCA DTV receiver work? |
| [03:49:00] | mchou: | dunno, never tried. |
| [03:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | time to fix dinner |
| [03:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | since nothing more can be done |
| [03:50:00] | jemarcks: | damn, i need to reduce the resolution so i can read whats displayed on the TV |
| [03:54:00] | jemarcks: | mchou,hmmm... i rebooted, went to live tv, it showed static and i heard some audio like voices. then i hung. |
| [03:54:00] | jemarcks: | im rebooting again |
| [03:54:00] | jemarcks: | crap, i need to setup to compile from source |
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| [04:06:00] | marmoset: | ok, with 0.2.0rc3j they all work, but the quality on the 500s is horrible |
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| [04:11:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, you there? |
| [04:11:00] | marmoset: | n/m, it's the double wide thing still |
| [04:11:00] | marmoset: | the tuner is just off a little I think |
| [04:11:00] | marmoset: | it looks like a vhs with bad tracking at the top too, squiggley stuff |
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| [04:12:00] | indessed: | Is there a way to set which recording profile is used for Live TV? |
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| [04:13:00] | indessed: | (For some reason, it appears that mythtv is using some bizarro recording profile for Live TV instead of the profile called "Live TV", and I want to change it back.) |
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| [04:15:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, crap i get static and it hangs now. that change isnt working |
| [04:17:00] | lavid: | I need some help with mythtv .18 + pcHDTV 3000 + kernel 2.6.12-rc2 using dvb. I installed the kernel driver modules for cx88-dvb but in myth when i go to add the capture source it says, under card name "could not get info for card #0" any thoughts? |
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| [04:24:00] | Agrajag-: | use femon to see if your dvb card is actually registered with the kernel |
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| [04:29:00] | quink: | anyone have problems with the recorded tv preview image in .18? |
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| [04:34:00] | lavid: | Agrajag – femon, is that for vdr? |
| [04:37:00] | lavid: | dmesg gives DVB: registering frontend 0 (pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV)... |
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| [04:49:00] | marmoset: | hmm, so ivtv 0.3.3* causes enc irq overflows and no video, 0.3.2* has video, but it's very poor quality |
| [04:50:00] | marmoset: | (on my pvr500) |
| [04:50:00] | marmoset: | anyone have any suggestions? :) |
| [04:50:00] | rpete: | wanna buy my pvr250? |
| [04:50:00] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [04:50:00] | marmoset: | no |
| [04:50:00] | marmoset: | I have two already |
| [04:51:00] | lavid: | wanna buy a pcHDTV 3k? |
| [04:51:00] | lavid: | :-D |
| [04:51:00] | marmoset: | haha |
| [04:52:00] | quink: | sure |
| [04:52:00] | quink: | how much for either? |
| [04:52:00] | quink: | and why are you selling? :P |
| [04:53:00] | lavid: | i have no idea how to get it to work |
| [04:53:00] | lavid: | and 150 us |
| [04:53:00] | quink: | oh. i thought it was supported? |
| [04:53:00] | lavid: | it is |
| [04:53:00] | quink: | then whats the problem? |
| [04:53:00] | Igg-man: | rpete: how much would you sell it for? |
| [04:53:00] | quink: | Igg-man: i asked first |
| [04:54:00] | Igg-man: | sorry |
| [04:54:00] | Igg-man: | didn't read that far yet |
| [04:54:00] | quink: | :P |
| [04:54:00] | Igg-man: | are the 250's $200? |
| [04:54:00] | quink: | no |
| [04:54:00] | rpete: | no way |
| [04:54:00] | quink: | ~130 new |
| [04:54:00] | lavid: | the problem is i don't know how to get it to work on my system |
| [04:54:00] | rpete: | got mine for $80 or so last year |
| [04:55:00] | quink: | i don't quite understand the whole hd thing yet |
| [04:55:00] | Igg-man: | how much are the $350's, those are the ones that are $300, right? |
| [04:55:00] | quink: | i mean, the tuner cna get hd off the air? |
| [04:55:00] | quink: | Igg-man: no more like 175$ |
| [04:55:00] | lavid: | yeah, it should be able to |
| [04:55:00] | quink: | and if it can't, can you plug in a normal cable to it and get regular tv? |
| [04:55:00] | quink: | or its only hd? |
| [04:55:00] | lavid: | i can get tvtime to show some regular cable tv |
| [04:56:00] | lavid: | and i almost got myth to show something, but then it died |
| [04:56:00] | quink: | is it sorta like a regular pvr250, it'll do all the pvr can but with hd for the channels that are in hd ? |
| [04:56:00] | lavid: | yeah, i think so |
| [04:57:00] | rpete: | not the pchdtv |
| [04:57:00] | quink: | does mpeg ont eh card? |
| [04:57:00] | rpete: | you essentially get a copy of what comes into the antenna, no adjusting bitrates or anything |
| [04:58:00] | quink: | so what is the difference between the two? |
| [04:58:00] | ** four8 has an Air2PC, an HD-2000 and an HD-3000 all working... ** | |
| [04:58:00] | quink: | four8: is it as i described? |
| [04:58:00] | lavid: | hey, four8, mind helping me? |
| [04:59:00] | ** four8 also has video coming off the firewire port on his cable box ** | |
| [04:59:00] | four8: | I can try |
| [04:59:00] | four8: | but gotta go tuck my kid in first |
| [04:59:00] | lavid: | sweet, thanks. lmk when you're back |
| [04:59:00] | four8: | k |
| [05:00:00] | ** lavid dances b/c he might get his hdtv card working ** | |
| [05:00:00] | rpete: | quink, think of your ota antenna as receiving the mpeg, then your pchdtv stores it on your hard drive |
| [05:01:00] | rpete: | pvr250 et al make the mpeg in real time, to your specs |
| [05:01:00] | ** rpete hopes he's not too far off here... ** | |
| [05:02:00] | lavid: | rpete, you sure about that? |
| [05:02:00] | rpete: | no :-) |
| [05:02:00] | lavid: | haha |
| [05:02:00] | quink: | ah |
| [05:02:00] | quink: | but will an hdtv card get me the benefits of a pvr250 with hdtv niceness? |
| [05:02:00] | lavid: | 0000:01:06.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23416 MPEG-2 Audio/Video Encoder [Blackbird] (rev 05) |
| [05:03:00] | lavid: | that's from the pchdtv 3k |
| [05:03:00] | rpete: | quink, yes the benefit is that no software encoding is performed |
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| [05:03:00] | rpete: | so your cpu can do other things |
| [05:04:00] | quink: | so the hdtv tuner will do capture of hdtv and cable tv streams and offload all of it from the main cpu(more or less) |
| [05:04:00] | quink: | ? |
| [05:05:00] | quink: | cause only so many channels are in hd, would the card be useful for the rest of the spectrum |
| [05:05:00] | rpete: | the pchdtv in particular is only good for ota hdtv I believe |
| [05:05:00] | rpete: | it will capture nothing else at all |
| [05:05:00] | lavid: | but how do i receive regular cable then? i get it with tvtime |
| [05:06:00] | quink: | thats my question. i get what it does for hdtv but not regular tv |
| [05:06:00] | lavid: | when four8 comes back you can ask him, his works |
| [05:06:00] | rpete: | of course I could be wrong, that's what I get from reading hd3000 info though |
| [05:06:00] | marmoset: | heh, according to ivtv all my cards have FM |
| [05:07:00] | marmoset: | so I've got 4 FM tuners also |
| [05:07:00] | rpete: | aha, I'm talking about hd2000 not hd3000 |
| [05:07:00] | lavid: | congrats, 'cause there's clearly that much good on the radio :-D |
| [05:07:00] | marmoset: | lavid: indeed |
| [05:07:00] | rpete: | hd3000 supports ntsc analog |
| [05:07:00] | marmoset: | lavid: although, there is a really good station here |
| [05:07:00] | lavid: | here =? |
| [05:07:00] | marmoset: | lavid: but they also broadcast uncompressed wav via the net, so.. |
| [05:08:00] | marmoset: | lavid: seattle. kexp (paul allen funded station) |
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| [05:08:00] | rpete: | lavid, quink so disregard everything I said unless using hd2000 :-) |
| [05:08:00] | Cromz: | speaking of radio's.. they gonna make a myth-radio? :> |
| [05:08:00] | marmoset: | that would be neat |
| [05:08:00] | marmoset: | for npr mainly |
| [05:08:00] | marmoset: | (for me) |
| [05:09:00] | marmoset: | I have cron recording it as it is, via mplayer and lame, but I'd like to have it all integrated :) |
| [05:09:00] | quink: | i disregarded what? |
| [05:09:00] | marmoset: | man, it really seems like I'm close to getting this 500 working, but I don't know where to go from here |
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| [05:10:00] | rpete: | quink, hd3000 encodes normal tellie as well |
| [05:11:00] | quink: | ah |
| [05:11:00] | quink: | k |
| [05:11:00] | quink: | so its pvr250+hdtv ? |
| [05:11:00] | rpete: | apparently, but I'm just going by reading product description, someone who actually has one could say more |
| [05:12:00] | marmoset: | I think manufacturers should start using weird names for their products. searching for stuff on google for "500" is much more difficult than "superdualtunermpegextravaganza" or whatever |
| [05:12:00] | CygnusX1: | Kojak listing for tonight on USA is wrong |
| [05:12:00] | lavid: | i have one, and i can't tell you anything |
| [05:12:00] | lavid: | :-D |
| [05:17:00] | lavid: | marmoset, throw in some more keywords like pvr or hauppage (or however you spell that) |
| [05:20:00] | marmoset: | lavid: yeah, I know, I'm just frustrated ;) |
| [05:21:00] | marmoset: | lavid: it's not as bad as some things — I like a band called "all", it's not fun finding things about them online ;) |
| [05:21:00] | lavid: | throw in descendants and you may get more |
| [05:22:00] | marmoset: | lavid: nice, heh, I'm impressed ;) |
| [05:22:00] | lavid: | i think i'll listen to them now, while i wait for four8 |
| [05:22:00] | marmoset: | lavid: ever see the descendents? |
| [05:23:00] | lavid: | no, i'd like to |
| [05:23:00] | marmoset: | they and all both put on great shows, I fear it's never to be again tho |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | four8: hey, you're here.....maybe you can help me with something...... |
| [05:23:00] | marmoset: | mchou: he's putting his kid to bed ;) |
| [05:23:00] | lavid: | i haven't been to a show since last nov. |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | marmoset: darn! |
| [05:24:00] | four8: | rpete: the HD-3000 does NOT encode ANYTHING |
| [05:24:00] | marmoset: | I wonder if the svideo on this 500 will have the same issue |
| [05:24:00] | lavid: | there ya go |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | speaking of HDTV cards, anybody try out the avermedia A180?? |
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| [05:24:00] | marmoset: | cuz that's what it'll be used for anyway |
| [05:24:00] | rpete: | four8, what does it do with analog ntsc? |
| [05:25:00] | four8: | raw video, a la any dumb capture card |
| [05:25:00] | four8: | you have to use cpu to encode it |
| [05:25:00] | rpete: | well that sucks |
| [05:25:00] | marmoset: | four8: did you ever have any luck with 492 500s? |
| [05:25:00] | four8: | Haven't got it just yet |
| [05:25:00] | marmoset: | ah |
| [05:25:00] | marmoset: | ok |
| [05:25:00] | four8: | Did get word that it shipped on Thursday, I think |
| [05:25:00] | ** marmoset ready to kick his ** | |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | fou8, guess what, ivtv is playing musical chairs on my system. |
| [05:26:00] | marmoset: | four8: I'm getting poor quality video that's half the screen, like it's zoomed in on just the left half, any idea about things to try? |
| [05:26:00] | four8: | I've found zero reason to even bother trying to get analog video off any of my hdtv cads |
| [05:26:00] | lavid: | four8, what isConexant CX23416 MPEG-2 Audio/Video Encoder [Blackbird] (rev 05) |
| [05:26:00] | lavid: | shouldn't that encode? |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | I can get 150 to work, m179 to work, just not together :) |
| [05:26:00] | four8: | marmoset: what capture res? scaling only sort of works with some ivtv versions on the 500 and 150 |
| [05:26:00] | four8: | mchou: heh, that sucks... |
| [05:26:00] | lavid: | mchou, you got the avermedia 150m to work? |
| [05:27:00] | mchou: | nono, m179. |
| [05:27:00] | lavid: | oh |
| [05:27:00] | four8: | I've been mucking with a box w/a 350, a 500 and an HD-2000, they're all working together now |
| [05:27:00] | marmoset: | four8: I think I've tried both 720x480. I'm setting it to 720x480, with no luck. |
| [05:27:00] | lavid: | i almost crapped my pants there, hoping you had |
| [05:27:00] | four8: | hm... |
| [05:27:00] | lavid: | w/e, four8, think you can help with my hdtv3k |
| [05:27:00] | four8: | the AVer card is supposed to work with the pluto guys driver, IIRC |
| [05:28:00] | four8: | I can try :) |
| [05:28:00] | four8: | First off, what dist? |
| [05:28:00] | lavid: | gentoo |
| [05:28:00] | lavid: | and it doesn't work :-/ |
| [05:28:00] | lavid: | re the 150 |
| [05:28:00] | marmoset: | four8: it's also got a band at the top that looks like vhs with the tracking off, squiggley ;) |
| [05:28:00] | four8: | kernel? |
| [05:28:00] | four8: | marmoset: the band at the top is normal, that's VBI data |
| [05:28:00] | lavid: | 2.6.12.rc2 |
| [05:29:00] | marmoset: | ok |
| [05:29:00] | lavid: | love sources if that matters |
| [05:29:00] | lavid: | but i'd be willing to switch to somehting esle |
| [05:29:00] | lavid: | else |
| [05:29:00] | four8: | k, 2.6.12 should have all the required bits in it |
| [05:29:00] | lavid: | i know, i'm trying to use them :-/ |
| [05:29:00] | four8: | I have one box running FC3 w/an HD-2000 (and had an Air2PC in it a bit ago) and CentOS4 for the HD-3000 box |
| [05:29:00] | four8: | but it should work on anything |
| [05:30:00] | four8: | are you trying to use the v4l driver or the dvb driver? |
| [05:30:00] | marmoset: | four8: ok, I think I see the scaling issue. In mythtv it's trying to set it to 480x480 (my settings), but that's failing, that's why I get only half the screen. If I just use mplayer on /dev/video3 it is the whole image, but very low quality |
| [05:30:00] | lavid: | the dvb |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | four8: ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found! ~ ivtv: Could not detect tuner standard, defaulting to NTSC. ~ |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | is that a "real" error message? |
| [05:31:00] | marmoset: | I suppose the quality could be an issue with the cabling or something |
| [05:31:00] | four8: | I don't think so... |
| [05:31:00] | marmoset: | unless it's a known thing |
| [05:31:00] | four8: | lavid: dvb is what I'm using on all my cards now |
| [05:31:00] | four8: | mchou: one sec... |
| [05:31:00] | marmoset: | it's very grainy |
| [05:31:00] | lavid: | do you use udev or devfs? |
| [05:32:00] | four8: | udev |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | four8: who is the manufacturer of the TCL 2002N tuner? |
| [05:32:00] | lavid: | did you have to write any udev rules or permissions? |
| [05:32:00] | four8: | mchou: I've seen that i2c error earlier today when things were going south on my attempts at pvr-350 and 500 in teh same box |
| [05:33:00] | four8: | not getting it anymore since adding some i2c_enable params to modprob.econf |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, that's m179 refusing to exist with my m150 :) |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | four8: do share :) |
| [05:34:00] | four8: | TCL makes the TCL 2002N tuner. :) |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | four8: who is TCL? :) |
| [05:34:00] | four8: | 350 is card #1, 500 is card #2 and 3 |
| [05:34:00] | four8: | dunno exactly |
| [05:35:00] | four8: | options cx25840 i2c_enable=-1,1,1 |
| [05:35:00] | mchou: | -1 means?..... |
| [05:35:00] | four8: | You might try that for the m179, could be that the cx25840 is doing something it shouldn't to the i2c bus on it |
| [05:35:00] | mchou: | disable? |
| [05:35:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [05:35:00] | mchou: | alright, give that a shot. |
| [05:36:00] | four8: | lavid: yeah, I have some udev rules and permissions files |
| [05:36:00] | four8: | lavid: have you tried using the pcHDTV 2.0 tarball at all? |
| [05:36:00] | lavid: | were they the ones from the pchdtv drivers? |
| [05:36:00] | marmoset: | ok, I feel retarded now |
| [05:36:00] | lavid: | yeah, i tried those |
| [05:36:00] | marmoset: | quality issue was cable |
| [05:36:00] | four8: | marmoset: lol |
| [05:37:00] | marmoset: | four8: any idea about what scaling might work and what might not? |
| [05:37:00] | four8: | lavid: what did/didn't work with the pcHDTV-provided drivers? |
| [05:37:00] | four8: | horizontal scaling seems to be on again, off again in recent versions |
| [05:37:00] | four8: | no vertical scaling yet |
| [05:37:00] | lavid: | i could get ntsc cable with tvtime |
| [05:37:00] | lavid: | which is the same situation with the tar |
| [05:37:00] | lavid: | and the kernel |
| [05:38:00] | four8: | If you were getting ntsc cable, that means you were actually accessing the v4l driver |
| [05:38:00] | lavid: | yeah |
| [05:38:00] | four8: | lsmod | grep cx88 ? |
| [05:38:00] | lavid: | but myth hates me and so does hdtv |
| [05:38:00] | four8: | :) |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | cx88_dvb 5508 0 |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | cx8802 7620 1 cx88_dvb |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | mt352 6212 1 cx88_dvb |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | cx88xx 49056 2 cx88_dvb,cx8802 |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | ir_common 6212 1 cx88xx |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | btcx_risc 3912 2 cx8802,cx88xx |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | tveeprom 11672 1 cx88xx |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | videodev 7232 1 cx88xx |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | or51132 9860 1 cx88_dvb |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | dvb_pll 3780 2 cx88_dvb,or51132 |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | video_buf_dvb 4612 1 cx88_dvb |
| [05:39:00] | lavid: | video_buf 17540 4 cx88_dvb,cx8802,cx88xx,video_buf_dvb |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | four8: hmm, no joy. i2c msg still showing up. A reboot may be in order :) |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | lavid: man, learn to use pastebin. |
| [05:40:00] | lavid: | what is pastebin? |
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| [05:42:00] | four8: | mchou: hit me with some full log output if you would |
| [05:43:00] | four8: | lavid: mchou will show ya in a sec. ;-) |
| [05:43:00] | lavid: | k |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | four8: rebooting :) |
| [05:43:00] | four8: | k |
| [05:43:00] | ** four8 is firing up this nifty Monarch Hornet box w/the HD-3000 in it now... ** | |
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| [05:44:00] | ** lavid sobs ** | |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | god damn router. |
| [05:47:00] | Fuzz: | router whats that |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | anyone able to play the nuv files when clicked inside mythweb? |
| [05:48:00] | Fuzz: | Beirdo, you around ? |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | four8: http://www.pastebin.com/275145 |
| [05:49:00] | Fuzz: | I didn't think that was supported defaultro |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | four8: 2nd card is the one of interest |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | Fuzz, it should be possible |
| [05:50:00] | marmoset: | well, hmm, I guess I'll just disable the 500s and wait for a month or two until they work better ;) |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | i'll research again :) |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | marmoset: lol :) |
| [05:50:00] | Fuzz: | it has been a while since I have used mythweb. |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [05:50:00] | four8: | mchou: module configs? |
| [05:50:00] | Fuzz: | marmoset, I read somewhere that you should try to setup the 250 or 350 first then add in the 500 |
| [05:51:00] | marmoset: | fuzz: I have 2 250s already :) |
| [05:51:00] | lavid: | http://www.pastebin.com/275146 |
| [05:51:00] | lavid: | there, i win |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | four8: options ivtv tuner=50,2options cx25840 i2c_enable=1,-1 ~ |
| [05:51:00] | marmoset: | oh, crap, to delete them in mythtv-setup I have to clear everything and start over, don't I |
| [05:51:00] | four8: | marmoset: no |
| [05:51:00] | four8: | hit the D key while they're highlighted |
| [05:52:00] | marmoset: | ah, excellent, thanks |
| [05:52:00] | four8: | mchou: do you get anything at all off the m179? Static? Or nada? |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | four8: gimme one sec.... |
| [05:53:00] | four8: | k |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | someone do me a favor and give me a valid frequency for a low channel on ivtv card..... |
| [05:54:00] | four8: | lavid: your module listing looks pretty much the same as mine, so that's a good start... |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | using ivtvctl |
| [05:54:00] | lavid: | k, then i think it might be the udev rules/perms |
| [05:54:00] | four8: | lavid: whatcha got in your module config file(s)? (Can't recall exactly what g2 uses) |
| [05:55:00] | lavid: | or maybe the way in which they were loaded? like modprobe rules |
| [05:55:00] | four8: | yeah, that could be |
| [05:55:00] | four8: | pcHDTV suggests a few things to make sure bits load in the right order |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | pls, someone do me a favor and give me a valid frequency for a low channel on ivtv card.....:) |
| [05:55:00] | four8: | install cx88-dvb /sbin/modprobe cx8800; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install cx88-dvb |
| [05:55:00] | four8: | install btcx-risc /sbin/modprobe tuner; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install btcx-risc |
| [05:56:00] | lavid: | http://www.pastebin.com/275147 |
| [05:56:00] | lavid: | yeah, i got those |
| [05:56:00] | four8: | I usually use ptune, sorry... :) |
| [05:56:00] | four8: | ok, that's all I've got there... |
| [05:56:00] | four8: | hm... |
| [05:57:00] | four8: | lavid: this is cable HD you're after, right? |
| [05:57:00] | lavid: | i suppose |
| [05:57:00] | four8: | have you played with azap at all yet? |
| [05:57:00] | lavid: | a while ago, yeah |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | four8: can you just do ivtvctl -R on one of your ivtv cards? |
| [05:58:00] | lavid: | but that was a different install |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | dont have any of that stuff installed on this system atm..... |
| [05:58:00] | four8: | Frequency = 7796 |
| [05:58:00] | lavid: | might this line in dmesg mean anything? ACPI: No ACPI bus support for 2–0061 |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | four8: thx. |
| [05:58:00] | four8: | should be channel 3 or 4 |
| [05:59:00] | four8: | lavid: I don't think so |
| [05:59:00] | four8: | I take it this is card #3 in your box? |
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| [05:59:00] | lavid: | huh? |
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| [05:59:00] | sesshoumaru: | Can I use mythtv? |
| [05:59:00] | four8: | 2–0061 indicates that's the 3rd tuner the tuner module found... |
| [06:00:00] | lavid: | i have a small form factor box, i have 1 pci slot, so no |
| [06:00:00] | four8: | 0x61 is the i2c bus address where tuners are commonly found, and the first one usually shows as 0–0061 |
| [06:00:00] | four8: | okay, that's odd then |
| [06:00:00] | lavid: | i've been loading and unloading modules since i last rebooted, maybe that's it? |
| [06:00:00] | four8: | could have something to do with it |
| [06:00:00] | four8: | howsabout a clean boot and grab a dmesg dump after that for me to peek at? |
| [06:01:00] | lavid: | sure, brb. turn off coldplug i suppose? |
| [06:01:00] | four8: | not sure |
| [06:02:00] | lavid: | well, then i'd just load it once i'm in the wm |
| [06:02:00] | four8: | does coldplug normally auto-load the drivers for it? |
| [06:02:00] | four8: | ah |
| [06:02:00] | four8: | yeah, sure, that'd be fine |
| [06:02:00] | lavid: | k, brb |
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| [06:03:00] | ** four8 never works on new toys like this on his main workstation... :) ** | |
| [06:03:00] | ** four8 doesn't like to have to reboot the workstation EVER ** | |
| [06:03:00] | four8: | Helps that I have like 20 computers in my house tho... |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | four8: m179 still seems to work despite i2c message. |
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| [06:05:00] | sesshoumaru: | W0W!!! 20? |
| [06:05:00] | four8: | I thought that might be the case. They may be inconsequential messages due to the m179 not having all the same components a Hauppauge card has |
| [06:05:00] | four8: | well, lemme do a quick count... |
| [06:05:00] | four8: | 5 in my office atm... |
| [06:05:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah..... |
| [06:05:00] | four8: | 7 in the rack in the garage... |
| [06:06:00] | sesshoumaru: | WOW!!!, how did you get so many? |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | four8: man, your house must be an ecological disaster. |
| [06:06:00] | four8: | 3 myth boxes throughout the house... |
| [06:06:00] | four8: | my laptop |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | hate to see your electricity bill :) |
| [06:06:00] | four8: | two more in my wife's office... |
| [06:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | my laptop has mythtv on it too |
| [06:06:00] | four8: | And a few spare machines not in use here and there |
| [06:06:00] | sesshoumaru: | my laptop has windows 3.2 |
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| [06:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | too bad the capture card that came with it isn't supported |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | whole house is a fire hazard :) |
| [06:07:00] | four8: | yeah, my electric bill is a bit high sometimes |
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| [06:07:00] | four8: | though not all machines are always on |
| [06:07:00] | lavid: | and back |
| [06:07:00] | four8: | I think about 12 of them are tho. :) |
| [06:07:00] | lavid: | okay, so what module should i load, cx88-dvb only or cx88-dvb then cx8800 |
| [06:07:00] | [Klatuu]: | my terabytes of disk space take up lots of juice |
| [06:07:00] | four8: | cx88-dvb |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | 12X100W=1200W == nasty |
| [06:07:00] | four8: | Yeah, I have a few TB floating about the house too... |
| [06:07:00] | sesshoumaru: | how do I start the mysql service mythtv needs? |
| [06:08:00] | four8: | generically, /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| [06:08:00] | four8: | or mysql |
| [06:08:00] | [Klatuu]: | between 3 computers I have 2 terabytes |
| [06:08:00] | sesshoumaru: | sweet, thanx |
| [06:08:00] | four8: | for FC, service mysql start |
| [06:08:00] | ** four8 computing in head... ** | |
| [06:09:00] | lavid: | http://www.pastebin.com/275151 |
| [06:09:00] | four8: | lavid: okay, that all looks good |
| [06:09:00] | harryo: | plus chkconfig mysqld on if you want it to work on reboot as well |
| [06:10:00] | four8: | ack, I dunno how much storage between how many machines, but there are at least 30 HDs running in the 7 machines on the rack in my garage |
| [06:10:00] | four8: | howdy harryo |
| [06:10:00] | lavid: | four8, so where to from here? |
| [06:11:00] | four8: | lavid: can you grab azap? Lets make sure that can lock on to some channels... |
| [06:11:00] | harryo: | four8: hi |
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| [06:11:00] | lavid: | k, hold on |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | four8: how do you even have enough time to administer the machines, never mind messing with myth? :) |
| [06:12:00] | four8: | cfengine |
| [06:12:00] | four8: | :) |
| [06:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | all my computers suffer from light pollution |
| [06:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | lots of very bright blue LEDs |
| [06:12:00] | four8: | many of 'em just sit there and do their thing |
| [06:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | and then there are the hard drives |
| [06:12:00] | lavid: | four8, got it |
| [06:12:00] | Cromz: | I'mma bang my head on the table.. so like anyone else have issues with watching a recording.. hit E to edit. then Z and what should show up doesn't .18 myth also typing 45 while watching live tv go to channel 4 then to 5. not 45 |
| [06:13:00] | four8: | the number of machine at home is nothing compared to what I maintain at work tho. :) |
| [06:13:00] | four8: | lavid: so are you hooked to OTA or cable right now? |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | four8: how many machines yoou maintain at work (roughly)? |
| [06:13:00] | four8: | 150 |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | you* |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | 150 servers? |
| [06:14:00] | four8: | mostly RH, with a few Windows and Solaris |
| [06:14:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | a beowolf type cluster or something else? |
| [06:14:00] | lavid: | four8, i have some really crappy antenna i can use or i can see what i can get from regular cable |
| [06:14:00] | four8: | well, there's 3 of us, so not all by myself |
| [06:15:00] | four8: | start w/crappy antenna so we can avoid any possible QAM decode issues |
| [06:15:00] | lavid: | kl |
| [06:15:00] | lavid: | lemme swap |
| [06:15:00] | four8: | mchou: nope, no beowolf, lots of load-balancing and failover clusters tho |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | four8: ok. |
| [06:15:00] | four8: | then there would be "virtual" servers, which would drive the "machine" count up to like 250... |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | nah, virtual dont count :) |
| [06:16:00] | four8: | % perl ./make_atsc_chanconf.pl YOURZIP >~/.azap/channels.conf |
| [06:16:00] | four8: | unless you already have a channels.conf |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | four8: clusters of clusters dont count either :) |
| [06:16:00] | sesshoumaru: | does anyone know the command to setup the mysql server for a root user? |
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| [06:17:00] | four8: | heh |
| [06:17:00] | four8: | sesshoumaru: eh? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | four8: so you work on HA? |
| [06:17:00] | four8: | nah, the clusters are just clusters |
| [06:17:00] | sesshoumaru: | mythtv's giving mysql trouble :0( |
| [06:17:00] | four8: | you mean the linux-ha tools or HA in general? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | four8: like you get docked if there is unplanned downtime?:) |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | HA in general :) |
| [06:18:00] | harryo: | sesshoumaru: set up for root how? set password for root? |
| [06:18:00] | four8: | I don't directly, but its a 24x7 operation and downtime means less money flowing in and a smaller bonus. :) |
| [06:18:00] | sesshoumaru: | i'm not sure when I setup mythtv before I had to create a mysql account for root, I thought? |
| [06:18:00] | four8: | I've worked with the linux-ha stuff before, but most stuff we use is higher-end |
| [06:19:00] | four8: | foundry load-balancers |
| [06:19:00] | lavid: | four8, where exactly is that script? |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | four8: cool. |
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| [06:19:00] | lavid: | nm, found it |
| [06:19:00] | four8: | hitachi sans, brocade san switches |
| [06:19:00] | four8: | veritas volume manager |
| [06:19:00] | four8: | fun stuff like that |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, I used to play on that turf (even more higher end) |
| [06:20:00] | four8: | Most of the really HA stuff is Solaris, the Linux boxes we just have lots and lots that do the same, so losing one isn't too big a deal |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, a farm :) |
| [06:20:00] | four8: | with any luck, I'll be moving to a bigger farm in a few weeks... |
| [06:20:00] | harryo: | sesshoumaru: you need to initialize the database (create mythconverg). I believe you need to do a 'mysql -u root < mc.sql' |
| [06:21:00] | sesshoumaru: | awsome, mythtv here I come |
| [06:21:00] | four8: | lavid: got a channels.conf yet? |
| [06:21:00] | lavid: | it gave me a nice little error message |
| [06:21:00] | four8: | not so good... |
| [06:21:00] | four8: | what'd it say? |
| [06:21:00] | lavid: | and by little i mean http://www.pastebin.com/275159 |
| [06:22:00] | four8: | ah, you don't have all the needed perl bits |
| [06:22:00] | four8: | what's your zip? |
| [06:22:00] | lavid: | 61801 |
| [06:23:00] | four8: | WCCU:545000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| [06:23:00] | four8: | WCIA:677000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| [06:23:00] | four8: | WBUI:521000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| [06:23:00] | four8: | WAND:497000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| [06:23:00] | four8: | WICD:635000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| [06:24:00] | four8: | (sorry, borderline shoulda been pastebinned) |
| [06:25:00] | lavid: | k, done |
| [06:25:00] | four8: | azap WAND |
| [06:25:00] | lavid: | k, it says it has a lock |
| [06:27:00] | four8: | gimme one full line |
| [06:27:00] | lavid: | status 1f | signal 24dd | snr b9d1 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| [06:27:00] | four8: | cool |
| [06:27:00] | four8: | looks good |
| [06:27:00] | four8: | unc 000 means the signal is clean |
| [06:28:00] | four8: | (no uncorrectable errors) |
| [06:28:00] | lavid: | sweet |
| [06:28:00] | ** lavid dances ** | |
| [06:28:00] | four8: | so the driver side is working |
| [06:28:00] | lavid: | k, so now what? |
| [06:29:00] | four8: | could try cable |
| [06:29:00] | lavid: | okay |
| [06:30:00] | four8: | or move on to myth |
| [06:30:00] | lavid: | lemme change |
| [06:30:00] | four8: | k |
| [06:30:00] | lavid: | i'd like to use cable |
| [06:30:00] | ** four8 nods head ** | |
| [06:31:00] | lavid: | k, cable is swtiched |
| [06:31:00] | lavid: | do i use the same channels? |
| [06:31:00] | four8: | nope |
| [06:31:00] | lavid: | k |
| [06:31:00] | four8: | save that OTA one and grab this to drop in place: |
| [06:32:00] | four8: | http://www.digitalregime.com/patches/channels.conf-qam |
| [06:34:00] | lavid: | got it |
| [06:34:00] | four8: | any idea what channels you should be able to get? |
| [06:34:00] | lavid: | not a clue |
| [06:34:00] | four8: | ew |
| [06:35:00] | lavid: | it's possible i may not get any |
| [06:35:00] | four8: | typically, C80 through C120 are where you'll find cable HD channels |
| [06:35:00] | lavid: | i'll try some |
| [06:35:00] | four8: | so azap C80 |
| [06:35:00] | four8: | through azap 120 |
| [06:36:00] | lavid: | so, anything i don't get a lock on is no good? |
| [06:36:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [06:37:00] | four8: | who's your cable provider? |
| [06:37:00] | lavid: | insight |
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| [06:39:00] | four8: | Its not looking like they carry any channels in HD at all... |
| [06:39:00] | lavid: | sweet! |
| [06:39:00] | four8: | (looking at the lineup on zap2it's site) |
| [06:39:00] | mchou: | so qt3.3.4 is still non kosher with myth (even in cvs), right? |
| [06:40:00] | four8: | http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/system.asp?part . . . ipcode=61802 |
| [06:41:00] | four8: | I stand corrected, there's ESPNHD (though that may not come through) |
| [06:41:00] | four8: | (without a box) |
| [06:41:00] | four8: | definitely not seeing any of your locals in HD on insight tho |
| [06:42:00] | lavid: | which channel is espnhd? |
| [06:42:00] | four8: | mchou: the qt issue isn't qt per se, its qt the way RH compiles it, as there are some qt 3.3.4 versions that don't have a problem |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | four8: really?? |
| [06:43:00] | four8: | yup |
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| [06:43:00] | lavid: | okay, so can i get regular cable (analog) through the dvb? |
| [06:43:00] | four8: | Isaac has no problem on his debian box w/qt 3.3.4, and I have one box with a qt 3.3.4 variant that doesn't have the problem |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | four8: do you know if it's a compile flag or what?? |
| [06:43:00] | four8: | lavid: nope |
| [06:43:00] | lavid: | k |
| [06:43:00] | four8: | not sure if its a compile flag or a patch... |
| [06:44:00] | four8: | need to diff the spec files for the working one and non-working ones (working one is a variant from the kde-redhat folks) |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | four8: how do I know if I have "good" qt short of trying it? :) |
| [06:44:00] | four8: | heh, not really sure. :) |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | sigh..... |
| [06:45:00] | lavid: | i have 3.3.4 but then again i can't get anything to work |
| [06:45:00] | four8: | lavid: espnhd is channel 775 |
| [06:46:00] | four8: | But that channels.conf doesn't have entries for anything above 125 |
| [06:46:00] | lavid: | yeah, i'm pretty sure i don't get anything that high in the dorms |
| [06:46:00] | lavid: | so, back to ota? |
| [06:47:00] | four8: | ahyup |
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| [06:50:00] | lavid: | k, cable is switched |
| [06:51:00] | four8: | fire up mythtv-setup |
| [06:51:00] | lavid: | as root? or just as my normal user? |
| [06:51:00] | four8: | normal |
| [06:51:00] | lavid: | no suid or anything? |
| [06:51:00] | four8: | (actually, doesn't really matter for this part, I believe) |
| [06:52:00] | lavid: | k |
| [06:52:00] | lavid: | well, i'm in |
| [06:52:00] | four8: | Ah, the one thing you do need is read/write perms on /dev/dvb/adapter0/* |
| [06:52:00] | four8: | got any cards configured yet? |
| [06:53:00] | lavid: | i deleted the configs |
| [06:53:00] | four8: | k, good |
| [06:53:00] | lavid: | and it seems like it's chmod 0660 |
| [06:53:00] | four8: | owner/group? |
| [06:53:00] | lavid: | root users |
| [06:53:00] | four8: | (i.e., can you read it?) |
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| [06:53:00] | four8: | k, I presume you're in users |
| [06:53:00] | lavid: | i am |
| [06:54:00] | four8: | good to go then |
| [06:54:00] | lavid: | tv format – atsc? |
| [06:54:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [06:54:00] | four8: | just a minute, gotta sneak away for a spell... |
| [06:54:00] | lavid: | channel freq – usbcast? |
| [06:54:00] | lavid: | k |
| [06:57:00] | four8: | yeah, us-bcast |
| [06:57:00] | four8: | (back) |
| [06:58:00] | lavid: | k, so in the setup |
| [06:58:00] | lavid: | for the cards |
| [06:58:00] | lavid: | i chose dvb |
| [06:58:00] | four8: | then adapter0 |
| [06:58:00] | lavid: | and it said "cannot get card info for card #0" |
| [06:58:00] | four8: | should be auto-selected, unless you get that... |
| [06:59:00] | four8: | flip to the console and see what you have in the way of error messages |
| [06:59:00] | four8: | its usually read/write perms aren't playing nice |
| [06:59:00] | lavid: | it says nothing re errors |
| [06:59:00] | four8: | damn |
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| [07:00:00] | lavid: | i agree |
| [07:00:00] | four8: | screw it, run setup as root, just so we can see if its a permissions thing or not |
| [07:00:00] | lavid: | k |
| [07:02:00] | lavid: | same thing |
| [07:02:00] | four8: | crapola |
| [07:02:00] | four8: | ll /dev/dvb |
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| [07:02:00] | four8: | Is dvb a device node or a folder? |
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| [07:03:00] | lavid: | what is ll ? |
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| [07:03:00] | four8: | ls -l |
| [07:03:00] | four8: | shorthand for ls -l, that is |
| [07:03:00] | lavid: | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 24 00:07 adapter0 |
| [07:03:00] | lavid: | aah |
| [07:04:00] | four8: | (often aliased on many systems, may not be on yours) |
| [07:04:00] | four8: | and pwd? |
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| [07:04:00] | four8: | (working directory, not password) :) |
| [07:04:00] | four8: | oh, nm |
| [07:04:00] | lavid: | i'm in /home/lavid |
| [07:05:00] | four8: | I'm quickly running out of ide-ers... |
| [07:05:00] | lavid: | i wonder if i can return this thing |
| [07:05:00] | four8: | and what all is inside /dev/dvb/adapter0/ ? |
| [07:06:00] | four8: | maybe something is missing... |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | crw-rw---- 1 root users 212, 4 Apr 24 00:07 demux0 |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | crw-rw---- 1 root users 212, 5 Apr 24 00:07 dvr0 |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | crw-rw---- 1 root users 212, 3 Apr 24 00:07 frontend0 |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | crw-rw---- 1 root users 212, 7 Apr 24 00:07 net0 |
| [07:06:00] | four8: | that all? |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | yeah |
| [07:06:00] | four8: | problema |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | que? |
| [07:06:00] | four8: | should be mas dev nodes in there |
| [07:06:00] | lavid: | then that is a problema |
| [07:07:00] | four8: | audio0, ca0, demux0, dvr0, frontend0, net0, osd0, video |
| [07:07:00] | lavid: | geez |
| [07:07:00] | four8: | :) |
| [07:07:00] | lavid: | where is everything? |
| [07:07:00] | four8: | mknod audio0 c 212 1 |
| [07:07:00] | four8: | dunno |
| [07:07:00] | four8: | :) |
| [07:08:00] | four8: | mknod ca0 c 212 6 |
| [07:08:00] | lavid: | should i cd to /dev/dvb/adapter0? |
| [07:08:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [07:08:00] | four8: | mknod osd0 c 212 8 |
| [07:08:00] | four8: | mknod video c 212 0 |
| [07:08:00] | four8: | then adjust perms to match the others |
| [07:09:00] | four8: | back to setup, and all should be good now (I hope) |
| [07:10:00] | lavid: | nada :( |
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| [07:11:00] | four8: | argh |
| [07:11:00] | four8: | as root? |
| [07:11:00] | lavid: | dmesg gives the following http://www.pastebin.com/275162 |
| [07:12:00] | lavid: | yeah, as root |
| [07:12:00] | lavid: | should i 777? |
| [07:12:00] | four8: | dmesg looks fine |
| [07:13:00] | four8: | nah, if you're root, shouldn't matter |
| [07:13:00] | lavid: | i know it shouldnt :( |
| [07:13:00] | lavid: | what ver. of myth are you using? |
| [07:13:00] | four8: | 0.18 |
| [07:13:00] | lavid: | yeah, same |
| [07:14:00] | lavid: | how can i tune to a channel with mplayer or something and get it? |
| [07:15:00] | lavid: | maybe it's myth |
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| [07:15:00] | four8: | haven't tried anything outside of myth and azap myself |
| [07:15:00] | lavid: | humm |
| [07:15:00] | four8: | I think the dvb button in xine should work |
| [07:16:00] | lavid: | lemme grab xine-hd then |
| [07:19:00] | four8: | normal xine should be fine, the xine-hd version is for the v4l pcHDTV drivers |
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| [07:20:00] | lavid: | looks like i don't have either |
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| [07:20:00] | four8: | bummer |
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| [07:22:00] | lavid: | i'm making the hd ver, is that okat? |
| [07:22:00] | lavid: | okay? |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | four8: what exactly was the issue with the "bad" qt? recordings are off by one hour, guide is off by one hr, what? |
| [07:24:00] | four8: | mchou: oops, I was thinking of the button press problem |
| [07:24:00] | lavid: | hey, four8 what are your udev rules and perms? |
| [07:24:00] | four8: | All qt 3.3.4's have that dst issue |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | four8: oh, in other words dont bother with qt 3.3.4 (from any distro?) |
| [07:25:00] | four8: | http://www.pastebin.com/275165 |
| [07:25:00] | four8: | the qt bug was fixed in 0.18 |
| [07:26:00] | four8: | or rather, myth was fixed to work around the difference in qt 3.3.4 |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | four8: cvs or 0.18 release? |
| [07:26:00] | four8: | I also posted a backport of the patch for 0.17 to the -users list a while back |
| [07:26:00] | four8: | release |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | four8: oh, ok. thx. |
| [07:26:00] | four8: | np |
| [07:27:00] | four8: | lavid: yeah, the hd version is fine too |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | four8: I am so screwed. |
| [07:27:00] | four8: | and all my rules/perms/etc are at that link I posted a sec ago |
| [07:27:00] | four8: | oh? |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | upgrade my distro, now lvm complains about file descriptor not closed. |
| [07:28:00] | lavid: | yeah, i have the sam thing |
| [07:28:00] | lavid: | same |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | I boot to old distro, no complaints from LVM. |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | really pisses me off. |
| [07:29:00] | four8: | I've seen that some too |
| [07:29:00] | four8: | lvm1 on the old distro, I presume |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | no. lvm2 on old distro. |
| [07:30:00] | four8: | :( |
| [07:30:00] | four8: | huh |
| [07:30:00] | four8: | I think my ubuntu beast in the garage throws those up |
| [07:30:00] | four8: | never seems to cause any issues though |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | maybe I should double check that..... |
| [07:31:00] | four8: | my el4 box doesn't have any probs like that, but it hasn't been upgraded, it was a clean install |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | what the cmd, vginfo or some such thing? |
| [07:31:00] | four8: | to do what? |
| [07:31:00] | four8: | vgdisplay shows all your vgs |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | find out what ver lvm is... |
| [07:32:00] | four8: | ah |
| [07:32:00] | four8: | vgdisplay does include that info |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | yup, says lvm2 right there..... |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | I dont want the metadata corrupted..... |
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| [07:43:00] | lavid: | four8, can i use the same channels.conf for xine? |
| [07:43:00] | four8: | not sure |
| [07:43:00] | lavid: | let's give it a shot... |
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| [07:49:00] | harryo: | four8: you still on the prowl for a vid card w/ component out? |
| [07:49:00] | four8: | nope |
| [07:49:00] | harryo: | did you ever look at xgi? |
| [07:49:00] | four8: | I have a GF 6200 w/component out somewhere around here |
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| [07:50:00] | four8: | been ages since I've even thought about anything but an nVidia card. ;) |
| [07:50:00] | four8: | actually, my next pursuit is going to be a machine with UniChrome Pro graphics |
| [07:51:00] | lavid: | k, so regular xine crashes when i press the dvb button |
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| [07:51:00] | mchou: | is that nvidia or who? |
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| [07:51:00] | four8: | UniChrome is VIA |
| [07:51:00] | harryo: | just noticed xgi on newegg. cheap, no fan, they released source to xorg/xfree (also does mpeg) |
| [07:52:00] | four8: | specifically, I wanna get a fanless EPIA SP board |
| [07:52:00] | four8: | huh |
| [07:52:00] | mchou: | bah, epia's are overrated |
| [07:52:00] | four8: | lavid: I'm coming up empty, everything should be working... |
| [07:52:00] | lavid: | damnit |
| [07:53:00] | lavid: | what does knopmyth require? would i have to format a drive for it? |
| [07:53:00] | four8: | maybe bounce the box, perhaps something didn't initialize right w/the device nodes not there |
| [07:53:00] | lavid: | bounce =? |
| [07:53:00] | four8: | not sure what's required w/knoppmyth for these cards |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | boot |
| [07:53:00] | lavid: | gotcha |
| [07:53:00] | lavid: | brb then |
| [07:53:00] | four8: | My epia box is sitting around doing nothing right now |
| [07:53:00] | harryo: | four8: noticed recent posts about unichrome. 35% cpu on m10k i believe? sounds nice |
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| [07:54:00] | four8: | But it'd kick ass to not have to use a 3GHz+ box for reliable HDTV |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | that much is true |
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| [07:54:00] | four8: | Esp. if I could do it all in my Travla C137 case |
| [07:55:00] | four8: | harryo: you talkin' HD there? You mean UniChrome Pro then, definitely a difference between the pro and the earlier versions (earlier can't handle HD-sized frames) |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | four8: lemme get this straight....epia an unichrome can decode HDTV??? |
| [07:55:00] | harryo: | first i'd have to get hdtv. guess i'm not a tv gourmet |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | and* |
| [07:55:00] | four8: | New EPIA SP systems with UniChrome Pro can decode HDTV |
| [07:55:00] | four8: | Ivor Hewitt's been a busy boy. |
| [07:56:00] | four8: | 1GHz C3 is still nearly pegged on 1080i playback last I heard, but does work. |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | four8: cpu util for 1080i? |
| [07:56:00] | four8: | see above. ;-) |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | SP==1GHz or more?? |
| [07:57:00] | four8: | supposedly may be better now, haven't seen a recent bench |
| [07:57:00] | four8: | SP starts w/a fanless 800 |
| [07:57:00] | four8: | I think they top out at 1.3GHz right now |
| [07:57:00] | harryo: | ivor's last post was: For your information that HDTV sample plays at 32% CPU utilisation on a 1Ghz |
| [07:57:00] | harryo: | Unichrome-Pro C3 |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | I want at least 35% CPU headroom when decoding HDTV. |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | 3GHz sounds much better still :) |
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| [07:58:00] | lavid: | oh man, i'm going to kill this thing, the damn mknod's are gone |
| [07:58:00] | four8: | I'm about 3 days behind on list traffic... |
| [07:59:00] | four8: | lavid: figured that might be the case... |
| [07:59:00] | lavid: | hold on, i'm going to eat my foot... |
| [07:59:00] | four8: | (I have static entries in /etc/udev/devices/ myself to prevent that) |
| [07:59:00] | four8: | yummy |
| [07:59:00] | harryo: | he replied to you yesterday 2:13:07pm (if you want to read it) |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | lavid: whice device nodes you talking about? |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | which* |
| [07:59:00] | four8: | dvb |
| [08:00:00] | lavid: | audio0 ca0 osd0 video |
| [08:00:00] | harryo: | well... midnight pdt but 3am here... night!! |
| [08:01:00] | four8: | heh, later harry! |
| [08:02:00] | lavid: | interesting... |
| [08:02:00] | lavid: | if i don't add those nodes |
| [08:02:00] | lavid: | dmesg gives or51132:Modulation type(0) UNSUPPORTED |
| [08:03:00] | lavid: | should i try the pcHDTV2.0 drivers? |
| [08:03:00] | lavid: | are they even different? |
| [08:03:00] | four8: | same difference, I believe |
| [08:03:00] | four8: | whatcha got in /lib/firmware? |
| [08:03:00] | lavid: | candy! |
| [08:03:00] | lavid: | lemme check |
| [08:04:00] | lavid: | dvb-fe-or51132-qam.fw dvb-fe-or51132-vsb.fw dvb-fe-or51211.fw dvb-ttpci-01.fw |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | four8: so on kernel 2.4, can I just move tuner.(c|h) from ivtv tree to kernel source tree? |
| [08:06:00] | four8: | mchou: hm... not sure... I don't think so... |
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| [08:06:00] | mchou: | cause it doesnt compile and when I do get it to compile, it complains about unresolved symbols. |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | on depmod..... |
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| [08:06:00] | four8: | I have a feeling there are some v4l2 or 2.6-isms in there... |
| [08:06:00] | four8: | you might have better success just backporting the tuner defs you need |
| [08:07:00] | four8: | lavid: firmware files all look good... So does that error come up if the dev nodes are already there when loading the module? |
| [08:07:00] | lavid: | that error came up w/o the nodes |
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| [08:07:00] | lavid: | all i did was load cx88-dvb |
| [08:08:00] | four8: | And if you reload w/the nodes there? |
| [08:09:00] | lavid: | i'd have to make them again, right? |
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| [08:10:00] | four8: | If they ain't there, yeah |
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| [08:10:00] | four8: | :) |
| [08:10:00] | lavid: | sdfdfb |
| [08:13:00] | lavid: | i still get the same error |
| [08:13:00] | lavid: | with the nodes |
| [08:13:00] | four8: | pooh |
| [08:13:00] | lavid: | maybe the nodes aren't linking up with the device? |
| [08:14:00] | four8: | dunno |
| [08:14:00] | lavid: | me either |
| [08:14:00] | lavid: | any way i can send this thing back? |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | lol |
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| [08:15:00] | ** KarlosII curses the flu as he coughs ** | |
| [08:15:00] | lavid: | i mean, 170 for a pci card that doesn't do anything isn't too great of a deal |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | lavid: you really that disappointes? |
| [08:16:00] | lavid: | yeah, i've spent so much damn time trying to get this to work |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | d* |
| [08:16:00] | four8: | only thing I might suggest is trying a known-working setup |
| [08:16:00] | four8: | could just be some combination of something isn't quite right on there |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | lavid: you could have gotten a HDTivo by now :) |
| [08:16:00] | lavid: | i know |
| [08:17:00] | lavid: | i don't have access to any "known working setup" |
| [08:17:00] | four8: | :) |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | I think there are plenty who have HD3k with DVB working..... |
| [08:17:00] | four8: | By known-working, I mean going with an OS where its a little more consistent from machine to machine, such as FC3 |
| [08:18:00] | four8: | At least then you could know you have exactly the same software components as someone else |
| [08:18:00] | ** KarlosII listens to his itunes ** | |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | lavid: what distro you using? |
| [08:18:00] | lavid: | gentoo |
| [08:18:00] | four8: | I know there are Gentoo folks out there that have those cards working, but its hard to say how their setups might differ from yours |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | lavid: serves you right :) |
| [08:19:00] | KarlosII: | which card? |
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| [08:19:00] | lavid: | pcHDTV3k |
| [08:19:00] | KarlosII: | gah, I never did get it working on gentoo |
| [08:19:00] | KarlosII: | on my friends |
| [08:19:00] | lavid: | but with a different distro you did? |
| [08:20:00] | KarlosII: | debian, but I don't remember how I did it, I think it was still shaky |
| [08:21:00] | four8: | hd3k working here under CentOS 4, hd2k and air2pc under FC3 |
| [08:21:00] | lavid: | anyone know how the hauppage 150 card works in linux? |
| [08:21:00] | KarlosII: | heh you lucky bugger |
| [08:21:00] | KarlosII: | lavid why you choosing the most difficult cards? |
| [08:21:00] | lavid: | cause it's cheap |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | lavid: works well here. |
| [08:22:00] | lavid: | and is low profile so i can stop using my damn onboard video card |
| [08:22:00] | KarlosII: | lavid, it's worth paying more and not getting a headache |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | lavid, man you missed a sale. $60 for 150 rtl this past week at circuit city. |
| [08:22:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, really |
| [08:22:00] | KarlosII: | sweet |
| [08:23:00] | lavid: | yeah, and that's why i went with a card with the linux supported card |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: it wasnt much of a headache for me at all. |
| [08:23:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, heh |
| [08:23:00] | lavid: | and i've spent forever trying to get it to work |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: got it to coexist w my 2 m179s even..... |
| [08:23:00] | KarlosII: | m179s? |
| [08:23:00] | lavid: | avermedia |
| [08:23:00] | KarlosII: | oh |
| [08:24:00] | lavid: | precursor to the m150 which is a blackbird |
| [08:24:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, you running debian? |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | nope, mandrake. |
| [08:24:00] | KarlosII: | figures |
| [08:24:00] | KarlosII: | :) |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: why you say that? |
| [08:24:00] | four8: | lavid: could always try the cx88-atsc driver instead... |
| [08:25:00] | lavid: | k, lemme install the pchdtv drivers |
| [08:25:00] | KarlosII: | I was having a heck of a time getting it working on my friends box and was hoping you had a easier solution |
| [08:25:00] | four8: | Zero issues here with any cards... |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | tell your friend to move from gentoo :) |
| [08:25:00] | four8: | :) |
| [08:25:00] | KarlosII: | he finally just got a pvr250 and that worked like a charm |
| [08:26:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, ehehehe |
| [08:26:00] | ** KarlosII degraduated to ubuntu for now ** | |
| [08:26:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: I wasnt really joking, you know.... |
| [08:26:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, I know you weren't |
| [08:26:00] | ** four8 will never stray far from RH ** | |
| [08:26:00] | ** four8 but also runs lots of debian ** | |
| [08:26:00] | ** KarlosII hides from rh ** | |
| [08:27:00] | ** KarlosII equivacates rh to bloatware ** | |
| [08:27:00] | ** lavid hides from his tv card ** | |
| [08:27:00] | four8: | RH can be just as trim as anything else. |
| [08:27:00] | mchou: | rh sux. all sorts of bugs. Once I found a LFS issue with NFS. No files bigger than 2GB across NFS.... |
| [08:27:00] | KarlosII: | I really need to upgrade my pvr card on this box, I'm still using a ATI wonder in this box |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | was fubar |
| [08:28:00] | lavid: | karlos wanna buy a pchdtv? |
| [08:28:00] | four8: | RH no suck. |
| [08:28:00] | four8: | :) |
| [08:28:00] | KarlosII: | nah I'm gonna get a pvr350 |
| [08:28:00] | lavid: | rsgdf |
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| [08:28:00] | KarlosII: | although I'm been edging to the pvr250 |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | four8: ok, I meant FC. |
| [08:29:00] | four8: | FC is a bit bleeding-edge... Sorta like MDK used to be. ;-) |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | mdk sux too, but I know where all the warts are. |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | and how to avoid them :) |
| [08:30:00] | four8: | The general consensus I've heard is that all still have lots of issues, its a matter of knowing 'em |
| [08:30:00] | four8: | bingo |
| [08:30:00] | four8: | I know my RH/FC pretty well, debian less so |
| [08:30:00] | four8: | I do have a pair of mdk 10.1 boxes floating about in my collection also |
| [08:30:00] | four8: | along with suse 9.2 pro |
| [08:31:00] | four8: | and four debian |
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| [08:31:00] | mchou: | I tried kubuntu live CD and that seg faulted big time. |
| [08:31:00] | four8: | then the army of RH/FC boxes |
| [08:31:00] | four8: | I have kubu on my iBook |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | knoppix was way more stable. |
| [08:31:00] | four8: | works relatively well, aside from sleep (which only YDL seems to get right) |
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| [08:32:00] | lavid: | ooh, it did not like that |
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| [08:33:00] | lavid: | same stuff happens with the pchdtv drivers |
| [08:34:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: setup mdk 10.1 the other day and a ps/2 wheelmouse wasn't detected properly! had to manually switch to psaux and IMPS/2 in xorg.conf – talk about warts! |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: I had no problems. need to follow directions. Press wheel to activate :) |
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| [08:35:00] | four8: | how 'bout the v4l pchdtv driver (cx88-atsc instead of cx88-dvb)? |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | 10.2 has been a real pleasure so far for me compared to 10.1 |
| [08:36:00] | lavid: | i think i'll need to restart to use it |
| [08:36:00] | four8: | I can switch between the two no problem, just rmmod cx88-dvb, then modprobe cx88-atsc |
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| [08:36:00] | four8: | 10.2 or whatever the call it... |
| [08:37:00] | mchou: | mandriva 2005. what a fscking name. |
| [08:38:00] | four8: | mandriva the tranny stripper... I still get a chuckle from that one... |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | it's a pathetic name. |
| [08:38:00] | four8: | looks like vertical scaling is working on the 150 and 500 w/the latest ivtv snap |
| [08:39:00] | lavid: | k, when i load the atsc /dev/dtv says "ERROR, no inputs found" under default input |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | four8: which driver ver? h? |
| [08:39:00] | four8: | k |
| [08:39:00] | four8: | (version k, no k as in ok) |
| [08:39:00] | four8: | lavid: when you load cx88-atsc you get that? |
| [08:40:00] | lavid: | no, in mythtv-setup |
| [08:40:00] | four8: | or is that in setup? |
| [08:40:00] | four8: | ah |
| [08:40:00] | four8: | yeah, its probably loading as /dev/video1 (peep the dmesg output) |
| [08:40:00] | four8: | you can manually type that in |
| [08:40:00] | lavid: | it is and /dev/dtv -> /dev/v4l/video1 |
| [08:41:00] | four8: | argh, so with /dev/dtv pointing there and mythtv-setup pointing at /dev/dtv, still nada? |
| [08:41:00] | lavid: | correct |
| [08:42:00] | four8: | grab the pchdtv-utils, if you would... |
| [08:42:00] | four8: | http://pchdtv.freedesktop.org/wiki/ |
| [08:42:00] | four8: | cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org :/cvs/pchdtv login (Hit enter when prompted for a password) |
| [08:42:00] | four8: | cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org :/cvs/pchdtv co pchdtv-utils |
| [08:43:00] | tuxristo: | mchou, nah it's because mdk sets mice to "auto" now and b/c the mouse was connected to a kvm, /dev/mouse wasn't symlinked to anything at all, it should have at least defaulted to usb |
| [08:43:00] | four8: | cd pchdtv-utils; make |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: usb??? foget about it! no wonder. You're setup is fubar :) |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: last I checked most ppl still use ps2 mice :) |
| [08:46:00] | four8: | not me |
| [08:47:00] | four8: | I have a four port usb kvm on my desk, usb keyboard and mouse |
| [08:47:00] | four8: | for one, that ps2 crap won't work in my Mac (without a spendy adapter) |
| [08:47:00] | mchou: | four8: what make kvm is it? |
| [08:47:00] | four8: | However, the 8-port kvm on my rack is all ps2 |
| [08:47:00] | four8: | iogear for the usb one, belkin for the 8-port ps2 |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | 4 port one.... |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | four8: what's hotkey for iogear? |
| [08:49:00] | four8: | that'd be the down-side on this particular one (its like 4 years old) |
| [08:49:00] | four8: | no hotkey and it isn't persistent connections |
| [08:49:00] | lavid: | k, i got those utils |
| [08:49:00] | four8: | they do have newer ones that do that |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | four8: what's hotkey on belkin? |
| [08:50:00] | four8: | standard belkin scroll lock double-tap and channel num for the belkin |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | four8: ok, that more reasonable. |
| [08:50:00] | four8: | lavid: try dtvscan /dev/v4l/video1 first |
| [08:51:00] | four8: | w/the usb box, its right next to the kbd, so no biggie to just hit the button |
| [08:51:00] | four8: | 95% of the time its on this machine anyhow |
| [08:52:00] | mchou: | I like my cheapo $50 Zonet four port (PS2) KVM |
| [08:52:00] | lavid: | k, i got like 70 channels |
| [08:53:00] | mchou: | %50 included cables. |
| [08:53:00] | mchou: | $50* |
| [08:53:00] | mchou: | 4 cables would have cost $50 retail :) |
| [08:54:00] | four8: | lavid: anything that looks different than the others there? |
| [08:54:00] | four8: | it tries 70 channels, but only some have any data |
| [08:54:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: well, it didn't default to either ps2 or usb, that's my beef |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | never given me any problems. but layout/cable managent on the darn thing is ridiculous. |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | management* |
| [08:54:00] | four8: | mchou: I like the price of my belkin: free, complete with 8 sets of cables. :) |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: huh??? |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | what, it decided on serial? :) |
| [08:55:00] | four8: | castoff from work when we started rolling out new Avocent AV2000R KVM switches. |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | four8: nice :) |
| [08:55:00] | lavid: | so what do i do |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | the older belkin ugly looking ones or the better looking ones? |
| [08:56:00] | lavid: | other than rip this thing out |
| [08:56:00] | four8: | its a plain flat box |
| [08:56:00] | four8: | nothing much to it, but not ugly |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, the ugly one. |
| [08:56:00] | four8: | :) |
| [08:56:00] | four8: | lavid: nothing stands out in that output? |
| [08:57:00] | tuxristo: | mchou, mdk 10.1 setup didn't default to either ps/2 or usbmouse – (i guess b/c i use a kvm) – no biggie though but could have thrown some ppl for a loop |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: I have kvm and it detected just fine. |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: what make is your kvm? |
| [08:57:00] | four8: | lavid: just trying to find a working HD channel... |
| [08:58:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: hmm, must have been something else, but u agree that setup should default to ps/2 or even ask the user, if it can't detect a mouse |
| [08:58:00] | tuxristo: | startech |
| [08:59:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: this one? http://www.kvms.com/startech/startech_starview_kvm_switches.asp |
| [09:00:00] | lavid: | there are a few channel = 56 |
| [09:00:00] | lavid: | Signal: 00 . |
| [09:00:00] | lavid: | channel = 57 |
| [09:00:00] | lavid: | does that mean it'll work? |
| [09:00:00] | lavid: | i'm tired |
| [09:00:00] | lavid: | i'm going to try to get a refund for this thing |
| [09:00:00] | mchou: | lavid: how long have you had it? |
| [09:01:00] | lavid: | few weeks |
| [09:01:00] | mchou: | hmm.... |
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| [09:01:00] | four8: | yeah, one with a signal is good |
| [09:01:00] | tuxristo: | i have a belkin that i could try to set up mdk with, if i really wanted to narrow it down |
| [09:01:00] | four8: | I had my HD2k for like 6 months before it did anything useful |
| [09:01:00] | mchou: | I'm sure you can find someone to buy it if they wont give you refund. |
| [09:01:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: nope not that startech |
| [09:02:00] | lavid: | i hope so |
| [09:02:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/KVM_Switch_4Port_SV411K.asp – this one |
| [09:02:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: lol, proprietary cables??? |
| [09:03:00] | mchou: | no wonder..... |
| [09:03:00] | tuxristo: | :( |
| [09:03:00] | lavid: | so, anyone want to buy a pcHDTV 3k... only a few weeks old |
| [09:03:00] | mchou: | lavid: hint: sell it after broad cast flag :) |
| [09:03:00] | mchou: | not b4 :) |
| [09:04:00] | lavid: | so does that only effect the hdtv stuff or ntsc too?> |
| [09:04:00] | lavid: | the flag that is |
| [09:04:00] | mchou: | lavid: j/k |
| [09:04:00] | mchou: | HDTV only. |
| [09:04:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: mdk 9.1 and 10.0 installed fine 10.1 and 2005 don't |
| [09:04:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: hmm??? |
| [09:05:00] | mchou: | 2005 was wonderful except for dead penguin :) |
| [09:05:00] | mchou: | stars for pupils in eyes, lol :) |
| [09:05:00] | tuxristo: | 9.1 and 10.0 detected the mosue with that same kvm while 10.1 and 2005 don't detect it – just another wart on the dead penguin :) |
| [09:06:00] | mchou: | those marketing guys at mandrake really deserve to be FIRED.... |
| [09:06:00] | mchou: | first the name, then the dead penguin theme. |
| [09:07:00] | tuxristo: | i just feel lucky that 2005 only has the dead penguin for the booy up – 10.2 release candidate had it as the desktop wallpaper as well!!! |
| [09:07:00] | tuxristo: | buuy -> boot |
| [09:07:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [09:07:00] | laga: | huh? a dead penguin? |
| [09:08:00] | lavid: | k, so what's the recommendation for my wonderful situation? |
| [09:08:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: you have a pic to show laga? |
| [09:08:00] | tuxristo: | how often do you misspell what you misspelled while trying to correct your mistake – buuy – booy – boot (g'damnit) |
| [09:09:00] | mchou: | lavid: try to return 1st..... |
| [09:09:00] | tuxristo: | mchou : i wonder if googling for "dead penguin" will make it show – it should be infamous by now |
| [09:09:00] | mchou: | if they wont take it back, hang on to it and try to get it working.... |
| [09:09:00] | lavid: | k |
| [09:09:00] | mchou: | come july, sell it :) |
| [09:10:00] | mchou: | assuming it still doesnt work by that time. |
| [09:10:00] | lavid: | hehe |
| [09:11:00] | laga: | tuxristo: i googled for "mandrake dead penguin" and didn't get any hits |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | lavid: but you need to be careful. Avermedia A180 street price is ~$70. |
| [09:11:00] | tuxristo: | ok i'll post it somewhere |
| [09:11:00] | lavid: | what is the A180? |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | available now. Once linux drivers come out for that one your hd3k will be worth less than that. |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | ATSC/QAM card fro MCE. |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | for* |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | nice card too. |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | just came out sometime last wk. |
| [09:12:00] | lavid: | yeah? how close are the linux drivers? |
| [09:12:00] | lavid: | oh |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | lavid: should be relatively close. |
| [09:13:00] | lavid: | mind elaborating on that? |
| [09:13:00] | mchou: | cant. |
| [09:13:00] | lavid: | does it get ntsc too? |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | hybrid tuner form ALPS |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | which is why it's nice. |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | from* |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | has svid in too :) |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | and composite. |
| [09:14:00] | tuxristo: | http://irstudio.ucalgary.ca/download/deadpenguin.jpg |
| [09:15:00] | mchou: | yup, that's it! |
| [09:15:00] | tuxristo: | laga: that, if you can believe it, is the new bootsplash background for mandrake^H^H^Hiva |
| [09:16:00] | laga: | oh my god |
| [09:16:00] | tuxristo: | lol |
| [09:16:00] | mchou: | not bootsplash |
| [09:16:00] | lavid: | hahahaha |
| [09:16:00] | laga: | poor tux |
| [09:16:00] | lavid: | no more tux :-/ |
| [09:17:00] | tuxristo: | it's the image that comes up on mandriva 2005 to hide all the init messages doring boot – godawful |
| [09:18:00] | mchou: | you know, that pic says a lot about the low morale at mandrake. |
| [09:18:00] | tuxristo: | and like i said b4, 10.2 release candidate had that image as the desktop wallpaper as well |
| [09:18:00] | tuxristo: | i cuold not believe my eyes , the first time i saw it, |
| [09:19:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: yeah, same reaction here. |
| [09:19:00] | mchou: | like wtf!!! |
| [09:19:00] | tuxristo: | i guess if that picture AND the mandriva name didn't make me switch back tu SuSE, nothing ever will |
| [09:19:00] | tuxristo: | it's like they are testing user loyalty |
| [09:20:00] | mchou: | you know that well be a good logo for a system error (I'm thinking Mac bomb here.....) |
| [09:20:00] | mchou: | will* |
| [09:20:00] | mchou: | when I saw that pic I thought my system panicked :) |
| [09:21:00] | tuxristo: | that smile is creepy though for a "system error" |
| [09:21:00] | lavid: | k, i'm going to bed, thanks four8 for your help |
| [09:21:00] | tuxristo: | that picture IS a system error |
| [09:21:00] | mchou: | lol :) |
| [09:21:00] | four8: | yeah, time for me to hit the sack too |
| [09:21:00] | four8: | so close, yet so far away... :) |
| [09:21:00] | mchou: | later then :) |
| [09:21:00] | four8: | later all |
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| [09:27:00] | FITH: | So they change their name to Man-driver (not that there's anything wrong with that) and then come up with THAT logo!?! Yikes! :) |
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| [09:29:00] | mchou: | yeah, extremely bad judgement on their part |
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| [09:31:00] | mchou: | a two year old can come up with a better logo than that..... |
| [09:31:00] | tuxristo: | i just noticed that it's on the kde startup splash too |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | yeah, but you can change that :) |
| [09:32:00] | tuxristo: | i usually don't use kde so i hadn't noticed |
| [09:32:00] | tuxristo: | i am thinking of making some rpms of a bootsplash with no dead pnguin |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: I dunno. Mandrake is beyond redemption. |
| [09:35:00] | laga: | c'mon, it's just a bootsplash ;) |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | It's like they dont want to be in business. |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | busy building their own damn coffin. |
| [09:36:00] | tuxristo: | laga: i can't have that penguin show up on screen at work, my boss will never take me seriously again if he sees it |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | exactly !!! |
| [09:36:00] | tuxristo: | i know, i could just turn it off |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | splash=0 :) |
| [09:37:00] | laga: | lol |
| [09:37:00] | laga: | or use a different bootsplash theme. bootslpash.de even has mythtv-based themes. |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: you a club member? |
| [09:38:00] | tuxristo: | i have made custom bootsplashes b4 – for digital picture frames |
| [09:38:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: nope, you? |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: I never tested any of the 10.2 packages....so I didn't know about dead penguin. But nobody COMPLAINED to mandrake on pre10.2??? |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | god..... |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | pre-10.2 is what I meant. |
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| [09:40:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: I withdrew my membership in protest. |
| [09:40:00] | tuxristo: | lol |
| [09:41:00] | mchou: | I'm not kidding. |
| [09:41:00] | tuxristo: | i was gonna complain but, didn't have time , 2005 came out only a few days after i noticed it |
| [09:42:00] | mchou: | like nobody complained on the cooker mailing list? |
| [09:43:00] | mchou: | anyway, that's just plain ridiculous. |
| [09:44:00] | mchou: | they might as well have gone down to eiffel tower and pulled down their pants. |
| [09:47:00] | tuxristo: | lol |
| [09:47:00] | tuxristo: | aaah that's funny |
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| [11:05:00] | metusine: | should mythbackend run as user or as root? |
| [11:06:00] | tuxristo: | i run it as root; either is fine |
| [11:06:00] | tuxristo: | just keep it consistent |
| [11:11:00] | metusine: | the reason i ask ... |
| [11:11:00] | metusine: | i have issues deleting stuff from the front end (which doesn't run as root) |
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| [11:11:00] | laga: | you dont need to run it as root. run it as user. |
| [11:11:00] | metusine: | the nuv files are owned by root with a+r |
| [11:12:00] | metusine: | as soon as i chown them to mythtv or chmod a+w i can delete them from |
| [11:12:00] | metusine: | fine |
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| [11:37:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – ive just updated from 0.17 to 0.18 and when i tried to start mythfrontend (-v all) it said "cannot find theme Titivalus" and died. any idea's anybody? |
| [11:38:00] | laga: | it cant find its theme. try to edit the database. |
| [11:38:00] | laga: | "titivalus"? btw, there is no such theme |
| [11:38:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i spelled it wrong |
| [11:39:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i couldn't find the entry in the database – do you know what table its in? |
| [11:39:00] | laga: | settings |
| [11:39:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ta |
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| [11:59:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ive just looked on my gf's computer – she's using the GANT theme – i looked in her mythfrontend > settings and the only available themes are gant and blue – any idea's (using gentoo but built from source because the ebuild is broken) |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: ;) |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: download mythtv-themes.tar.bz2 |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | some of the themes are now i a different tarball |
| [12:00:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ah rite |
| [12:00:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | thanks |
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| [12:01:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | where shall i extract it to? |
| [12:01:00] | laga: | dunno |
| [12:01:00] | laga: | i guess there are instructions inside |
| [12:02:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ok ta |
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| [13:23:00] | prodigy7: | hi – somebody know where i can find mythextra sources? napsi.net is offline and google give me no usefull answere were i can found the source too |
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| [13:38:00] | MiX-MaN: | anyone know a good way to automagicly convert nuv files to divx after recording... i use the Bt8x8 series cap card.. |
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| [13:40:00] | ikaro: | my card went into a coma again. |
| [13:40:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [13:40:00] | MiX-MaN: | that doesent sound good |
| [13:41:00] | ikaro: | ye |
| [13:41:00] | ikaro: | is there some special order to load the modules or something ? |
| [13:41:00] | MiX-MaN: | my sonud card did that the other day.. took for ever to figure out i had to turn up IGain |
| [13:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | ikaro: not sure.. what prob are you having? |
| [13:42:00] | ikaro: | its not tunning anymore .. again |
| [13:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm |
| [13:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | you've tried the basics.. "shut up and reboot" |
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| [13:42:00] | ikaro: | its working fine, but everytime after I reboot all i get is static |
| [13:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm |
| [13:43:00] | MiX-MaN: | like reg air static or some other type of static |
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| [13:43:00] | ikaro: | statis |
| [13:43:00] | ikaro: | static... white and black |
| [13:44:00] | ikaro: | in some channels I see a very faded image moving from left to right |
| [13:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | and it only does this when you reboot? |
| [13:44:00] | ikaro: | yes |
| [13:44:00] | MiX-MaN: | is it cable or antenna? |
| [13:45:00] | ikaro: | i had windows on another disk, and when this happened, i would boot into windows, start the tv app, and then reboot into linux and start mythtv,,, then it would work again. |
| [13:45:00] | ikaro: | sound like ivtv puts the card to sleep or something .. |
| [13:45:00] | MiX-MaN: | sounds like it might have something to do with PAL/NTSC |
| [13:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | look though your settings to make sure everything is set to NTSC |
| [13:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | if your in the US |
| [13:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | or canada |
| [13:46:00] | ikaro: | yesterday i deleted the windows stuff on the disk, thinking that the problem was solved, since it had been working fine for some days .. then i rebooted. |
| [13:46:00] | ikaro: | europe, PAL, cable |
| [13:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | ah |
| [13:47:00] | MiX-MaN: | what it seems like its doing is 'forgeting' its setup for pal |
| [13:47:00] | MiX-MaN: | i havent encountered that prob myself... so i cant be too helpfull :/ |
| [13:47:00] | ikaro: | so .. what can I do |
| [13:48:00] | MiX-MaN: | i'd double check you settings.. make sure your cable is good |
| [13:48:00] | ikaro: | the cable is fine |
| [13:48:00] | ikaro: | works fine in a tv set |
| [13:48:00] | MiX-MaN: | maybe take the card out and put it back in... all i can think of short of a hammer |
| [13:48:00] | ikaro: | also these pvr cards are really crap, or the driver have serious problems |
| [13:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [13:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | that could be the issue too |
| [13:49:00] | ikaro: | in the tv all the channels have nice image, with no interference |
| [13:49:00] | ikaro: | but using the pvr its shit |
| [13:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | you using a bt series card? |
| [13:49:00] | ikaro: | that is using the same cable source |
| [13:49:00] | ikaro: | its a hauppauge pvr-350 |
| [13:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | ah |
| [13:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | i gotta cheapo 15$ bt card in my setup |
| [13:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | seems to do pretty good... |
| [13:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | not sure on your prob though man... |
| [13:50:00] | ikaro: | Standard = 0x000000ff |
| [13:50:00] | ikaro: | ivtvctl -a ^ |
| [13:51:00] | ikaro: | i havent changed any settings between reboots |
| [13:53:00] | MiX-MaN: | dunno man sorry :/ |
| [13:53:00] | ikaro: | :/ |
| [13:53:00] | MiX-MaN: | maybe try a diff prog |
| [13:53:00] | ikaro: | i guess im going to miss liege-bastongne-liege |
| [13:53:00] | MiX-MaN: | see if that works |
| [13:53:00] | ikaro: | crap.. |
| [13:54:00] | ikaro: | the problem isnt the applications.. its possibly the driver |
| [13:55:00] | ikaro: | ill reboot again .. |
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| [14:04:00] | MiX-MaN: | ikaro: dunno if this will help any but: |
| [14:04:00] | MiX-MaN: | From what I can tell, unloading and reloading the bttv/tuner drivers with new configs without rebooting does not actually work right. After lots of attempts, it mysteriously started working. Then I rebooted and it stopped working. Finally I found some modules.conf lines which seemed to bring it up with the default tuner 19 for this card. |
| [14:05:00] | ikaro: | like i said, i havent changed any settings, or edited any files from the time it was working, to the time it stoped working. |
| [14:07:00] | ikaro: | http://ikaro.homepage.dk/ts.mpg |
| [14:07:00] | ikaro: | thats how it looks like. |
| [14:07:00] | ikaro: | 3mb |
| [14:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | eww |
| [14:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | def something with the card/drivers/cable |
| [14:09:00] | ikaro: | its not the cable, because it works fine in a tv |
| [14:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | true |
| [14:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | but it could be like the connector on the card or something |
| [14:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | just listing all possible causes |
| [14:10:00] | ikaro: | but it was working before |
| [14:10:00] | MiX-MaN: | most likly its going to be a bug in the drivers |
| [14:10:00] | ikaro: | i could install windows again in another disk, install the tv app and reboot into linux and then it would 100% work again. |
| [14:10:00] | MiX-MaN: | try upgrading or downgrading the drivers |
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| [14:11:00] | MiX-MaN: | make sure it doesent do it in .. xawtv or something |
| [14:12:00] | ikaro: | doesnt compile in amd64 |
| [14:12:00] | MiX-MaN: | ah |
| [14:12:00] | ikaro: | like the other apps |
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| [14:12:00] | MiX-MaN: | sux |
| [14:12:00] | ikaro: | ive tried freevo and tvtime and so on even worse. |
| [14:12:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [14:12:00] | MiX-MaN: | man im sorry.. thats the only thing i can figure.. :( |
| [14:13:00] | ikaro: | np. |
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| [14:17:00] | ikaro: | well last reboot .. and if it doesnt work, ill install window again on my old disk and try that way. |
| [14:18:00] | ikaro: | i dont have other ideas. |
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| [14:20:00] | revenger_: | can anyone help me with mythtv? it just segfaults .. |
| [14:21:00] | revenger_: | #0 0xb68aee03 in strlen () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 |
| [14:21:00] | revenger_: | #1 0xb6592058 in mysql_select_db () from /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.12 |
| [14:21:00] | revenger_: | and it's unable to connect to the local database |
| [14:23:00] | revenger_: | mysql mythconverg -u mythtv -h localhost but this works.. |
| [14:23:00] | revenger_: | even as user mythtv |
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| [14:23:00] | mjr: | I'm trying to setup mythtv 0.17 from Ubuntu's multiverse for use with my DVB-T adapter; the adapter is recognized fine when I tell it to use DVB, but I can reach "scan for channels" and "advanced" buttons in the channel setup screen |
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| [14:24:00] | mjr: | tabs and arrow keys just cycle over them like they don't exist |
| [14:24:00] | mjr: | so, what's a guy to do? |
| [14:25:00] | laga: | i wonder if you're experiencing this odd qt bug. |
| [14:28:00] | mjr: | ah, never mind, I had neglected to connect it to the video input |
| [14:28:00] | mjr: | now it activates |
| [14:28:00] | mjr: | Stupid User Error |
| [14:29:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [14:29:00] | revenger_: | can anyone help me with that? http://www.wikiservice.at/dse/wiki.cgi?MarkusRechberger/mythtv |
| [14:30:00] | laga: | do you speak german? |
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| [14:30:00] | revenger_: | sure |
| [14:31:00] | laga: | revenger_: cool. unfortunately, i dont have a solution for your problem, but i just want to inform you that there's also a german channel: #mythtv-de |
| [14:31:00] | revenger_: | strange thing is I'm able to connect to that database with the mysql shellcommand |
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| [14:38:00] | MiX-MaN: | revenger_: dunno possible looks like a username/password error |
| [14:39:00] | MiX-MaN: | revenger_: check to make sure the database portion is setup right in mythtv |
| [14:39:00] | MiX-MaN: | i.e. passwords / ips |
| [14:39:00] | MiX-MaN: | usernames |
| [14:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | also.. dont know if you put "mythtv@localhost |
| [14:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | "mythtv@localhost" as the username somewhere.. maybe it should be "mythtv" |
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| [14:49:00] | revenger_: | MiX-MaN: it is.. |
| [14:50:00] | revenger_: | I'm able to connect to it with the mysql shell command |
| [14:50:00] | revenger_: | mysql mythconverg -u mythtv -h localhost -p |
| [14:50:00] | revenger_: | used the password from mysql.txt |
| [14:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm |
| [14:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | dunno man sorry :/ |
| [14:51:00] | MiX-MaN: | i just like to toss out simple easy.. "just encase you did'nt check this" kinda stuff |
| [14:51:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
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| [14:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
| [14:52:00] | MiX-MaN: | sup |
| [14:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | I was thining about getting directtv instead of analog cable |
| [14:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | but |
| [14:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | I don;t want to chuck mythtv and my haup. card |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | never irc as root ;) |
| [14:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | anybody using mythtv with satelite ? |
| [14:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeas I know laga |
| [14:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | :) |
| [14:54:00] | MiX-MaN: | MrSpiffy: theres alot of recivers that work with mythtv |
| [14:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | I stay out of script kiddie channels. just this one and fedora |
| [14:55:00] | MiX-MaN: | not sure of the url.. but it list the recivers that mythtv can controll directly |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | beirdo is the biggest scriptkiddie ever |
| [14:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah but he's bwirdo |
| [14:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | he's cool |
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| [14:55:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [14:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | right Beirdo ? |
| [14:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | MiX-MaN, the stuff I saw online so far is about controlling the channel on the receiver with a serial cabke |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | he won't answer, he's probably busy cracking your irc client |
| [14:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | MiX-MaN, true? |
| [14:56:00] | MiX-MaN: | MrSpiffy: yup |
| [14:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [14:56:00] | MiX-MaN: | MrSpiffy: just make sure you get a reciver it supports.. mine doesent work with it :( |
| [14:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | MiX-MaN, bummer |
| [14:56:00] | MiX-MaN: | it has a low speed jack covered with tape |
| [14:57:00] | MiX-MaN: | but dont wanna go pluging crap in thats "disabled" |
| [14:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | MiX-MaN, or just nothing connected to the jack |
| [14:57:00] | MiX-MaN: | plus the faq's i've read doesent list this model |
| [14:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | do you have a list URL ? |
| [14:57:00] | MiX-MaN: | not sure |
| [14:57:00] | MiX-MaN: | let me see if i can find it |
| [14:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | thanks |
| [14:59:00] | MiX-MaN: | Notes on DirecTV receivers: |
| [14:59:00] | MiX-MaN: | For more information about serial controllable DirecTV receivers please see the Direct Serial Control Utility page. Sadly many less expensive receivers that are being used as the free boxes you get with a commitment to a contract often do not have a data port for serial control. |
| [15:00:00] | MiX-MaN: | standby for linkage |
| [15:00:00] | MiX-MaN: | ok.. im not 100% sure if all these work for mythtv |
| [15:01:00] | MiX-MaN: | but im sure most of them will.. this list is for a sepereate program |
| [15:01:00] | MiX-MaN: | http://www.dtvcontrol.com/ |
| [15:01:00] | MiX-MaN: | err |
| [15:01:00] | MiX-MaN: | http://www.dtvcontrol.com/page.aspx?content=compat |
| [15:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | thanks! |
| [15:02:00] | MiX-MaN: | np |
| [15:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | now to find out what receiver verizon sends |
| [15:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | my ultimate plan is to put a backend in the closet and a frontend on PC's and a set top pc frontend |
| [15:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | too bad there wasn't a win32 frontend – I'd have the whole thing integrated |
| [15:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | win32 client is the missing piece |
| [15:06:00] | MiX-MaN: | there is |
| [15:06:00] | MiX-MaN: | i just saw it the other day |
| [15:06:00] | mjr: | dih dum, "getting listings" |
| [15:06:00] | mjr: | this might actually be getting somewhere |
| [15:06:00] | MiX-MaN: | http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/ |
| [15:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | this looks cool |
| [15:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://mythhd.info/ |
| [15:09:00] | MiX-MaN: | $$$ |
| [15:10:00] | MiX-MaN: | im thinking of building something similer |
| [15:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | a media server for vids, mythtv, mp3, etc would bee cool |
| [15:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'm thinking ata raid with big ide disks |
| [15:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | cheap |
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| [15:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | going to pick up an old scsi disk array today :) |
| [15:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | cant wait to plug that badboy in |
| [15:13:00] | MiX-MaN: | prob around 100 gigs or so |
| [15:14:00] | MiX-MaN: | :/ bed time |
| [15:14:00] | MiX-MaN: | gotta run |
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| [15:58:00] | Zer0WiSe: | I get an error on building libavcodec |
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| [16:05:00] | mjr: | hmm, any usual reason why mythtv would (with a USB DVB-T device that works fine with eg. xine) would start complaining about audio buffer overflows and playing jaggedly (I think the video is going double speed) |
| [16:08:00] | mjr: | (and the audio gets behind and then it snaps back into sync) |
| [16:09:00] | Zer0WiSe: | specific error for the build of libavcodec: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt |
| [16:09:00] | Zer0WiSe: | is this a library or dependency i missed and need to install? |
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| [16:54:00] | topping: | is there a way to 'emerge mythtv' on gentoo and get 0.18? |
| [16:55:00] | topping: | (hi everyone) |
| [16:55:00] | lavid: | topping, add mythtv to your package unmask file |
| [16:55:00] | lavid: | and to your package keywords under ~x86 |
| [16:56:00] | topping: | hmm, ok |
| [16:56:00] | topping: | thanks! |
| [16:56:00] | lavid: | and if you get a pchdtv working, lemme know |
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| [16:57:00] | topping: | hehe, i'm just getting a gentoo xbox running |
| [16:57:00] | lavid: | aah |
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| [17:41:00] | bomba_: | anyone have problems where mythfilldatabase refuses to get monday's listings? |
| [17:41:00] | bomba_: | Data is already present for Sun Apr 24 2005, skipping |
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| [17:41:00] | bomba_: | Data is already present for Tue Apr 26 2005, skipping |
| [17:42:00] | bomba_: | err, it just worked now it looks like |
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| [17:55:00] | hi2: | hi |
| [17:55:00] | hi2: | tyring to setup lirc, well i run /usr/bin/irw and it detects the keys i press |
| [17:56:00] | hi2: | but when i open mythtv and press keys, nothing happens |
| [17:56:00] | hi2: | thanks |
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| [17:58:00] | jemarcks: | is anybody having trouble doing apt-get dist-upgrade today? |
| [17:58:00] | jemarcks: | Failed to fetch http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/3/i386/ . . . FC3.i386.rpm 403 Forbidden |
| [17:58:00] | hi2: | worked okay for me, try apt-get update |
| [17:58:00] | jams: | hi2 do you have native lirc compiled for myth or have an existing .mythtv/lircrc file |
| [17:58:00] | jemarcks: | i did that |
| [17:59:00] | hi2: | jams: i have native lirc and i have lircrc file for my remote i downloaded |
| [17:59:00] | jemarcks: | im following Jarods guide for FC3 to do a fresh install |
| [17:59:00] | hi2: | jemarcks: what is your apt-get line? |
| [18:00:00] | jemarcks: | hi2 apt-get dist-upgrade, |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | 229 upgraded, 31 newly installed, 3 replaced, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. |
| [18:02:00] | CyberGlitch2: | is their a template or a guide for making new plugins for mythtv? |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | Need to get 310MB/374MB of archives. |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | After unpacking 73.8MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | Err http://ayo.freshrpms.net fedora/linux/3/i386/updates tzdata 2005f-1.fc3 |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | 403 Forbidden |
| [18:02:00] | jemarcks: | Err http://ayo.freshrpms |
| [18:08:00] | hi2: | well i can just start over, after i install knoppmyth what steps do i need to take to setup lirc? copy over my lircd.conf and lircrc files then run lircd as root |
| [18:09:00] | hi2: | jemarcks: lookslike you might neeed to remove that rpm source so it tries another |
| [18:11:00] | jemarcks: | hi2 there are only 2 lines in the soureces.list file that in installed from atropms-kickstart |
| [18:12:00] | hi2: | hmm |
| [18:12:00] | jemarcks: | rpm http://ayo.freshrpms.net fedora/linux/3/i386 core updates |
| [18:12:00] | jemarcks: | rpm http://apt.physik.fu-berlin.de fedora/3/en/i386 at-stable |
| [18:12:00] | jemarcks: | this worked a week ago |
| [18:12:00] | jemarcks: | :/ |
| [18:12:00] | hi2: | i rmember more sources than two, try commenting the first one |
| [18:14:00] | jemarcks: | hi2, ok i did that. it seems to be working. will it find all the same files needed from both sites? |
| [18:16:00] | hi2: | ya they are mirrors |
| [18:16:00] | hi2: | prob |
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| [18:18:00] | topping: | anyone purchased RAM from all-american? |
| [18:18:00] | Spida: | hm |
| [18:18:00] | Spida: | are there problems known of deleting recordings in .18? |
| [18:18:00] | topping: | oop wrong channel |
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| [18:35:00] | hi2: | anyone can help me on lirc? |
| [18:35:00] | hi2: | plz been struggling an hour |
| [18:36:00] | beavis: | ask your q ;) |
| [18:36:00] | lavid: | an hour? that's nothing |
| [18:36:00] | Spida: | hi2: just an hour? |
| [18:36:00] | Spida: | try again *g* |
| [18:36:00] | hi2: | lol |
| [18:36:00] | hi2: | tyring to setup lirc, well i run /usr/bin/irw and it detects the keys i press |
| [18:37:00] | hi2: | but when i run mythtv and press buttons nothing happens |
| [18:37:00] | hi2: | iv done this before and it took like 10 minutes |
| [18:37:00] | Spida: | is lircd running? |
| [18:37:00] | hi2: | ya |
| [18:37:00] | hi2: | running under root |
| [18:37:00] | Spida: | is it still running after you use it? |
| [18:37:00] | Spida: | what do the logs say? |
| [18:38:00] | hi2: | welll if irw is working i guess it's still running |
| [18:38:00] | hi2: | haven't checked the logs |
| [18:38:00] | Spida: | check both, please |
| [18:38:00] | hi2: | k |
| [18:40:00] | jemarcks: | hi2, i messed up my atrpm install. how do i reinstall it? |
| [18:41:00] | hi2: | all regular stuff in logs |
| [18:41:00] | hi2: | but then says |
| [18:41:00] | hi2: | says could not open dev/lirc |
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| [18:41:00] | hi2: | default_init no such device |
| [18:42:00] | hi2: | jemarcks: ? what did you do |
| [18:42:00] | lashkar: | hi2: what does "ls -l /dev/lirc" give you? |
| [18:43:00] | hi2: | crw-r--r-- root root date |
| [18:44:00] | lashkar: | hi2: it doesn't have 61, 0 in there? |
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| [18:44:00] | lashkar: | hi2: i have "crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2005-04–17 16:37 /dev/lirc" |
| [18:45:00] | kabutor: | hi, Im using mythtv but facing a problem, I have a keyboard attched to the box, no lirc ATM, but sometimes I open a video (using mythtv video plugin) and Mplayer seems to lost focus, so I cant ESC, Rewind or nothing with the Keyboard, Im using gentoo and evilwm to fix it I open a new console window while playing the video and typing exit seems to fix it since mplayer regain focus.. any way to fix this? thx |
| [18:46:00] | hi2: | ya |
| [18:46:00] | hi2: | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 date |
| [18:46:00] | hi2: | maybe i have to make it rw ? |
| [18:46:00] | lashkar: | nah, should be fine |
| [18:46:00] | lashkar: | hi2: when you start mythfrontend, do you get any errors about lirc? |
| [18:47:00] | hi2: | in logs? |
| [18:47:00] | hi2: | let me try |
| [18:47:00] | mjr: | hmm, any usual reason why mythtv would (with a USB DVB-T device that works fine with eg. xine) would start complaining about audio buffer overflows and playing jaggedly (I think the video is going double speed, the audio gets behind, and then there's a resync) |
| [18:47:00] | lashkar: | hi2: either start it in a console and look at the stuff it spews out or run it with "mythfrontend &> myth.log" |
| [18:48:00] | hi2: | ahh i found the problem , it's running the front end as root |
| [18:49:00] | hi2: | and looking for /root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [18:49:00] | lashkar: | hehe |
| [18:49:00] | hi2: | =( |
| [18:49:00] | hi2: | thanks for help! |
| [18:49:00] | lashkar: | np, it's always something simple...but it's a pain to find ;) |
| [18:49:00] | hi2: | i dunno where frontend is started tho |
| [18:50:00] | hi2: | using knoppix so it's started automatically somewhere |
| [18:51:00] | hi2: | guess i'll lookj around init.d |
| [18:51:00] | kabutor: | Can someone give me some advice please? I really dont know if I must use another WM, not sure if mythtv works fine with evilwm |
| [18:54:00] | jams: | fluxbox, windowmaker, ratpoison all work fine |
| [18:56:00] | kabutor: | that focus problem could be WM related? I read something similar searching in google, but was more KDE related so Iwas thinking to use another light WM |
| [18:57:00] | kabutor: | I try one of those to see it that helps |
| [18:57:00] | Spida: | kabutor: what you are experiencing is th e usual symptom of using NO wm (tinywm) |
| [18:58:00] | kabutor: | thk |
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| [19:01:00] | lashkar: | argh, i spent the last hour trying different things to find out why my tv-out had suddenly completely broke...the damn cable was loose on the pvr350 |
| [19:02:00] | hi2: | haha that sucks |
| [19:02:00] | hi2: | where should i put lircd so it loads before mythtv? |
| [19:02:00] | hi2: | on boot |
| [19:03:00] | lashkar: | depends on the distribution |
| [19:03:00] | hi2: | knoppix |
| [19:03:00] | hi2: | any knoppmyth users? |
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| [19:07:00] | hi2: | thanks lashkar |
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| [19:21:00] | revenger_: | /mythtv-0.18/libs/libmythtv# make |
| [19:21:00] | revenger_: | make: *** No rule to make target `../libmyth/libmyth-0.18.so', needed by `libmythtv-0.18.so.0.18.0'. Stop. |
| [19:22:00] | revenger_: | any idea what's wrong there? |
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| [19:37:00] | Servo888: | afternoon all |
| [19:38:00] | Servo888: | I'm curious as to how well the WinTV-PVR 150 MCE-LP (low profile version) is supported. |
| [19:46:00] | j0seph: | how much r they? |
| [19:46:00] | hi2: | just get a pvr250 |
| [19:46:00] | Servo888: | 70 bucks for the 150 =\ |
| [19:47:00] | j0seph: | does that use ivtv? |
| [19:47:00] | Servo888: | a bit more for the 250 |
| [19:47:00] | Servo888: | that's what I'm curious about |
| [19:47:00] | hi2: | i'll support it for 20 dollars |
| [19:48:00] | hi2: | The PVR-150 IVTV driver is rapidly being developed now and is quite usable under MythTV |
| [19:48:00] | hi2: | give me money now |
| [19:48:00] | Servo888: | for that extra 20 bucks I could get the 250 ;-) |
| [19:49:00] | hi2: | ya well it's a pain in the ass to configure so it's worth it to go for the 250 |
| [19:50:00] | hi2: | or buy a 350 |
| [19:50:00] | Servo888: | hmm – well the biggest advatange to the 150 is it's slow profile. |
| [19:51:00] | Servo888: | low* |
| [19:51:00] | hi2: | ya slow |
| [19:51:00] | Servo888: | I would have to get a riser card for a fullsize card =\ |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | riser ? |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | ahh |
| [19:52:00] | CyberGlitch2: | he is using a weeee case |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | cause it won't find in your tiny case |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | hehe |
| [19:52:00] | Servo888: | to flip the card =\ |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | u can wire each lead |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | haha |
| [19:52:00] | hi2: | it'll only take like 3 hours |
| [19:53:00] | Servo888: | lol |
| [19:53:00] | CyberGlitch2: | if the 150 works the low profile should as well |
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| [19:55:00] | j0seph: | hi2 what do you mean by quite usable under myth |
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| [19:57:00] | hi2: | i dunno i found it on some /. post |
| [19:58:00] | hi2: | the ivtv site says: pvr 150 – Very close to fully functional (in ivtv development branch): |
| [19:58:00] | hi2: | so u still have to use cvs code |
| [19:59:00] | j0seph: | so you haven't personally tried it? |
| [19:59:00] | hi2: | nah i won't buy that crap |
| [19:59:00] | hi2: | it's asking for problems |
| [20:01:00] | j0seph: | it seems very dependent on windows mce |
| [20:01:00] | j0seph: | besides it being in the name |
| [20:01:00] | j0seph: | :-p |
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| [20:15:00] | topping: | i'm using that crap, it works great |
| [20:17:00] | hi2: | heh |
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| [20:26:00] | lavi1: | hey, can someone try to download the pcHDTV drivers and tell me if they can open them? all i get are corrupt archives http://www.pchdtv.com |
| [20:29:00] | Cromz: | seem to work for me. I opened the gz and the readme inside. |
| [20:29:00] | lavi1: | which file? |
| [20:30:00] | Cromz: | pcHDTV-drivers-1.6.tar.gz (12/30/04) |
| [20:31:00] | Cromz: | ok.. now it's not letting me |
| [20:31:00] | lavi1: | when i tar -zxvf i get gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated |
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| [20:33:00] | ParadigmS: | hello all |
| [20:34:00] | ParadigmS: | anyone had an issue with .18 where when they start watching a recording it starts black |
| [20:34:00] | ParadigmS: | i am able to get it to go away by hitting pause and then resuming playback |
| [20:34:00] | ParadigmS: | but its annoying to have to do |
| [20:35:00] | ParadigmS: | i'm using a pvr-350 out by the way |
| [20:35:00] | ParadigmS: | any help would be greatly appriciated |
| [20:36:00] | lavi1: | Cromz, are you getting the same error? |
| [20:37:00] | Cromz: | ya, it won't let me open it now. corupted archive. |
| [20:37:00] | lavi1: | gah, i'm going to have to travel to utah from il and kick these guys a new one |
| [20:39:00] | timekllr: | so, according to the .18 changelog, there are new features about downloading trailers and getting local movie listings, but I down see them... |
| [20:39:00] | timekllr: | is there something I have to do to turn that on ? |
| [20:42:00] | Zer0WiSe: | my build keeps failing on: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt" |
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| [20:54:00] | dhofstra: | I am trying to setup a system using a scsi Hard Drive. Having trouble getting the system to load after grub starts.. I know it is off topic, but if you know about these things, please message me.. |
| [20:54:00] | ikaro: | how many disks ? raid ? |
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| [20:54:00] | dhofstra: | 1 scsi disk drive |
| [20:55:00] | ikaro: | sda |
| [20:55:00] | ikaro: | any grub error ? |
| [20:55:00] | ikaro: | how does your grub config looks like for that specific disk? |
| [20:55:00] | dhofstra: | no, just hangs on black screen with text.. I could paste the text if you like |
| [20:55:00] | dhofstra: | kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 vga=normal selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/sda2 /newline/ [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1600, size=0x15a505 //newline// initrd (hd0,0)/initrd //newline// [Linux-initrd @ 0x1fde1000, 0x14e8d6 bytes] |
| [20:56:00] | dhofstra: | then just sits there |
| [20:56:00] | dhofstra: | I can boot off the cd and use an option to boot a system that will not boot, and it works fine... |
| [20:56:00] | mechtn: | hey guys |
| [20:56:00] | mechtn: | i got a geforce 6600 gt video card |
| [20:57:00] | mechtn: | you think it'll work alot better than my ati radeon for getting dual video working? |
| [20:57:00] | ikaro: | dhofstra, try (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz |
| [20:57:00] | ikaro: | you have way too many things in there, i would try removing some, boot just with a basic setup and then add gradually. |
| [20:58:00] | dhofstra: | ok |
| [20:58:00] | ** four8 has dual monitors working on a GF 6600GT... ** | |
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| [20:59:00] | mechtn: | really? |
| [20:59:00] | mechtn: | mines by PNY.. what about yours? |
| [20:59:00] | four8: | eVGA |
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| [21:00:00] | mechtn: | cool.. does it work good for mythtv? |
| [21:00:00] | four8: | dual 19" Dell P991 monitors at 1600x1200 |
| [21:00:00] | four8: | works fine for myth, though this is a workstation, not really a Myth bo |
| [21:00:00] | four8: | x |
| [21:00:00] | four8: | handles hdtv too |
| [21:00:00] | mechtn: | nice... what distro of linux u running? |
| [21:00:00] | mechtn: | ya thats why i wanted the card .. for the hdtv support |
| [21:00:00] | four8: | (Athlon 64 3500+, 2GB RAM, RHEL4) |
| [21:01:00] | mechtn: | rhel4? |
| [21:01:00] | four8: | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, Advanced Server, x86_64 edition, to be specific |
| [21:01:00] | mechtn: | oh ok |
| [21:02:00] | mechtn: | was 250$ for it an ok price? |
| [21:02:00] | four8: | worked the same under Fedora Core 4 |
| [21:02:00] | four8: | I paid like $170 for mine, IIRC |
| [21:02:00] | four8: | @newegg.com |
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| [21:03:00] | mechtn: | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.j . . . tCode=322989 |
| [21:04:00] | mechtn: | thats the exact card i got |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | ah, agp, that makes a price difference too |
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| [21:04:00] | four8: | mine is PCI-Express |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | But it should work quite well for what you're after |
| [21:05:00] | four8: | gotta run... |
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| [21:07:00] | revenger_: | Edit the INCLUDEPATH line to point to the directory where you have the DVB driver source code. <- linux kernel sources?! |
| [21:08:00] | mechtn: | guys |
| [21:09:00] | mechtn: | my friend just brought over a wintv card from hauppaguge |
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| [21:09:00] | mechtn: | how do i determine if its got encoding on board |
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| [21:12:00] | mjr: | hmm, I'm apparently suffering from the same bug as below using Ubuntu's multiverse 0.17 version (not to my knowledge a CVS version); is there a fix? |
| [21:12:00] | mjr: | http://www.pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs-old/viewtopic.php?t=21183 |
| [21:15:00] | mjr: | (the other guy seemed to have it only on CVS, not 0.17) |
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| [21:19:00] | smr: | hello |
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| [21:23:00] | ParadigmS: | hello everyone |
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| [21:24:00] | ZoOps: | hello. Compiling here is very slow and theres plenty of this messages:"Warning: no hostlist is set; can't distribute work" and Warning: failed to distribute, running locally instead"" |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | sounds like you enabled distcc. |
| [21:25:00] | CygnusX1: | ZoOps, not an expert, but, it compiled just fine for me despite all of that. |
| [21:26:00] | smr: | yep, it's only distcc |
| [21:26:00] | jasoncohen: | anyone here do any work on themes? |
| [21:26:00] | ZoOps: | yes i think its enabled. Is there a way to turn it off and speed things up ? |
| [21:26:00] | smr: | will compile on your local machine only |
| [21:26:00] | smr: | I guess it doesn't slow you down |
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| [21:27:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v o_cee | |
| [21:28:00] | ZoOps: | ok, so its normal? I tried once make it with DirectFB support but lots of errors... |
| [21:29:00] | smr: | but here comes my problem... |
| [21:29:00] | smr: | hauppauge nova-t PCI card with remote control |
| [21:29:00] | smr: | works quite well now |
| [21:29:00] | smr: | except it feels too fast |
| [21:30:00] | smr: | for example, in mythmusic changing volume works but it feels "laggy" |
| [21:30:00] | smr: | volume keeps going up or down after I release the button |
| [21:31:00] | smr: | I'm using irxevent |
| [21:31:00] | jasoncohen: | heh...so i take it there are no theme developers here |
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| [21:37:00] | revenger_: | With MythTV 0.17 channel setup has been largely automated. .. I have no idea where to set up channels can anyone help me with that? |
| [21:37:00] | revenger_: | I installed mythtv 0.18 |
| [21:38:00] | ikaro: | you can use the ptune.pl |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | not with DVB, i think. |
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| [21:42:00] | ws1: | Does the new KnoppMyth have support for the HD3000 card? |
| [21:45:00] | lavid: | ws1, i heard it does |
| [21:46:00] | CyberGlitch2: | ws1, wait till 2.6.12 comes out, support will be in the kernel |
| [21:47:00] | CyberGlitch2: | then look at the dvb card support information for myth |
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| [21:59:00] | revenger_: | does anyone know what tv_grab_de_tvtoday.conf is or should be? |
| [21:59:00] | revenger_: | mythtv is a pain :( |
| [22:01:00] | blazerz28: | MythTv Xbox install help? |
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| [22:11:00] | AlonzoFox: | I'm having a little troulbe configuring MythTv.... on step 9 in the guide it says to run the mythtv-setup program... that executable is not there on my system |
| [22:13:00] | ikaro: | if you are using 0.17 try mythsetup |
| [22:13:00] | AlonzoFox: | I've got 0.16, do you think I ought to upgrade it..... how do I uninstall the version I have on there if so? |
| [22:14:00] | ** AlonzoFox isn't too keen on Linux ** | |
| [22:14:00] | AlonzoFox: | sorry |
| [22:14:00] | ikaro: | dont be sorry. |
| [22:14:00] | ikaro: | which distro are you using ? |
| [22:15:00] | AlonzoFox: | fedora |
| [22:15:00] | ikaro: | i never used that, but doesnt that distro have some kind of package management ? |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | apt-get upgrade |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | in general. :) |
| [22:16:00] | AlonzoFox: | yea apt-get is how I got 0.16 |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | so apt-get update |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | then apt-get upgrade |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | that's how the upgrades are done |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | ah MAN, I need a nap |
| [22:17:00] | ws1: | Is it OK now to use EXT3 for /mnt/store? |
| [22:17:00] | AlonzoFox: | so like: $ apt-get update mythtv, then apt-get upgrade mtyhtv |
| [22:17:00] | AlonzoFox: | ?? |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | apt-get update |
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| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | apt-get upgrade |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | it will upgrade everything, pretty much |
| [22:18:00] | AlonzoFox: | cool, it's doing it now, thanx |
| [22:24:00] | AlonzoFox: | ok |
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| [22:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | can anyone hook me up with a script to automagicly covent newly created nuv's to divx... |
| [22:42:00] | MiX-MaN: | convert* |
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| [22:45:00] | Zugot: | what tuner should i use choose if i have a pvr150? |
| [22:45:00] | mechtn: | ok seriously |
| [22:45:00] | mechtn: | can someone please help me with my nvidia card |
| [22:45:00] | mechtn: | everyone says they are rock solid and just work |
| [22:46:00] | mechtn: | but i'm not having any luck |
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| [23:01:00] | CygnusX1: | I have, a possibly stupid question. If I have my tuner in the backend system, can I take another PC running frontend and watch live tv and recordings on the frontend system? |
| [23:02:00] | Cromz: | that's what myth is about... er.. yes |
| [23:03:00] | ws1: | question on MythTV on Gentoo: what are the recommended USE flags? |
| [23:04:00] | CygnusX1: | Cromz, is 100 Mb fast enough for that? |
| [23:04:00] | Cromz: | CygnusX1: ya. |
| [23:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | cygg: You could run a lot of frontends on a 100meg network |
| [23:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming your backend can keep up with it :) |
| [23:08:00] | lavid_dinner: | ws1, check the gentoo wiki |
| [23:11:00] | four8: | mechtn: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/xorg.conf-twinview.txt |
| [23:12:00] | four8: | Zugot: the tuner on the PVR-150 should be auto-detected, don't force it |
| [23:13:00] | CygnusX1: | And you can watch LiveTV remotely? Sweet! |
| [23:14:00] | Cromz: | http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101538 I'm gonna get one of these and make it a a backend server :> that'll be kool... lol |
| [23:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | CygnusX1: Ive done it on 3 different frontends at the same times, so yea |
| [23:15:00] | four8: | Cromz: I'd rather have this for a backend: http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i1545/serial- . . . e-server.php |
| [23:15:00] | four8: | :) |
| [23:15:00] | four8: | (we actually have one at work) |
| [23:16:00] | CygnusX1: | four8, which version of ivtv? (autodetecting PVR150) |
| [23:16:00] | Cromz: | lol holy crap.. |
| [23:16:00] | four8: | Cromz: we've got 12x250GB drives in it, with 12 400GB drives slated to be ordered shortly... |
| [23:17:00] | four8: | CygnusX1: anything after about 0.3.2g-ish |
| [23:17:00] | Cromz: | ahhh only xeon cpus? |
| [23:17:00] | CygnusX1: | four8, Does that Twinview config work with a monitor and a TV? |
| [23:17:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [23:17:00] | four8: | (that yeah was to Cromz) |
| [23:17:00] | four8: | The twinview config is set up for dual monitors, you'll have to adjust for monitor and tv |
| [23:18:00] | four8: | the changes for monitor and tv are pretty simple tho |
| [23:20:00] | CygnusX1: | I got MythTv up on Slackware 10.1 fairly easily with a PVR150. No remote though :-(. And, I need to go back and recompile mplayer and all that with better options. |
| [23:21:00] | Cromz: | four8: how many capture cards would you shove in that thing? lol at least 4? |
| [23:21:00] | four8: | Probably four HD capture cards |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo. |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Barenaked Ladies – Alcohol |
| [23:23:00] | Cromz: | for me the next step is to build a mythbox and output it to a projector for my living room ;) |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | not a bad idea... time to pour some rum |
| [23:24:00] | four8: | I... Love you more... than I did the week before.... I discovered alcohol... |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | that's the one :) |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | good Toronto music :) |
| [23:24:00] | four8: | Good music period |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | well, Scarborough, it'll have to do |
| [23:24:00] | four8: | :) |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [23:25:00] | ** Beirdo pours out a liberal portion of Havana Club 7yr Dark Rum :) ** | |
| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | unlike Celine Dion, they are a Canadian band to be proud of :) |
| [23:27:00] | Cromz: | someone should make a mythradio plugin ;) |
| [23:27:00] | four8: | I thought some of the BNL guys were from Boston? |
| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | nope. All Toronto |
| [23:28:00] | four8: | must be thinking of someone else, or maybe just confused as usual... |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, that's OK |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | still good stuff |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | as is this Cuban rum |
| [23:29:00] | four8: | I'm a fan of the dark stuff too |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | too bad you officially can't get Havana Club down there |
| [23:29:00] | four8: | drank way too much bacardi silver in my younger days |
| [23:29:00] | four8: | Meyers works for me |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | appleton's good too |
| [23:30:00] | four8: | I'll be up in Bellingham next weekend, maybe I'll have to pop across the border to the duty free store... :) |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | I doubt they'll have Cuban goods at duty free :) |
| [23:30:00] | four8: | yeah, prolly not |
| [23:30:00] | four8: | but what they do have is usually cheaper than anywhere in WA |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah :) |
| [23:30:00] | four8: | that's one of the things I miss about living in Cali... |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | Cheep booze? |
| [23:31:00] | CygnusX1: | Is the overscan option busted in recent NVIDIA drivers? I seem to have 0 and everything else is the same. |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, xris was telling me some of the prices in WA. it's cheaper here in ON for sure |
| [23:31:00] | four8: | Beirdo: yeah, every mini mart in Cali carries hard liqs |
| [23:31:00] | four8: | the grocery stores all have their own branded stuff |
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| [23:32:00] | four8: | so that all drives down the price of the really good stuff. |
| [23:32:00] | four8: | CygnusX1: Run nvidia-settings, adjust the overscan in there, save to ~/.nvidia-settings.rc |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | Bell Canada's such a rip-off |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | man, this new drive I got rips DVDs MAD fast... |
| [23:33:00] | CygnusX1: | four8, Thank you! |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | np |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | $1.44/min to Puerto Rico on base plan. $0.19/min if you pay like $7/month. My voip provider... $0.0172/min |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | toc reads are WAY faster... |
| [23:34:00] | four8: | I'm thinking I should finally get around to either Asterisk, if I feel like taking the time and effort, or just go Vonage |
| [23:34:00] | dant: | four8, what drive is it? |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | asterisk is nice :) |
| [23:34:00] | four8: | some $60 lite-on DVD-RW/CD-RW combo drive, replaced a somewhat aged DVD drive and CD-RW drive |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | yeah, one of these days, I plan to asterisk it up... |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | relatively steep learning curve, but worth it |
| [23:36:00] | four8: | I've got a spare PowerEdge 2300 w/dual PIII-450s, 1GB of RAM and 6x9G SCSI drives on a RAID controller just waiting (and waiting) for me to get around to it |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | that should do fine |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | I use a Celeron 566 |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | Dell GX100 slimline |
| [23:37:00] | four8: | Finally making use of the even better 2300 I have for a kerberos/ldap/pdc box |
| [23:38:00] | four8: | I've got a buddy that runs damn near everything (including asterisk and myth) off a 1.3GHz duron or some such box, so I figured it was plenty |
| [23:38:00] | four8: | I'm a power freak tho, even my two Linux-based router boxes are 600MHz. :) |
| [23:39:00] | four8: | (actually, one is a PIII-933 atm) |
| [23:39:00] | CygnusX1: | four8, That still behaves like there are only two settings...on or off. |
| [23:39:00] | CygnusX1: | (overscan) |
| [23:39:00] | four8: | hm, worksforme... |
| [23:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:39:00] | revenger_: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/OJidLi16.html can anyone help me with that? I've been playing around with mythtv for hours now and still I can't get it work :( |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | I use another Celery 566 as my firewall. OpenBSD with a Sun QFE card in it :) |
| [23:40:00] | four8: | ew, first off, don't use PS mode, switch to TS |
| [23:40:00] | four8: | (mythtv-setup -> card config -> advanced button |
| [23:41:00] | revenger_: | four8: did that .. |
| [23:41:00] | revenger_: | ok |
| [23:41:00] | four8: | 2U PIII-600 running MDK10.1 w/the MNF packages added to it for one, and currently, a PIII-933 Compaq Deskpro EN (tiny thing, probably about the size of your asterisk box) running Astaro Security Linux 5 |
| [23:41:00] | four8: | The 933 is going to be supplanted by a 1U IBM Netfinity 4000r (PIII-600) shortly tho |
| [23:42:00] | revenger_: | four8: ok now it uses TS mode but still I wonder why it doesn't get any signal |
| [23:42:00] | Beirdo: | four8: you rack-mounted server geek you :) |
| [23:42:00] | four8: | do you have it starting on a known-good channel? |
| [23:42:00] | four8: | Beirdo: hell yeah! |
| [23:43:00] | CygnusX1: | four8, are you using 71.71 nv drivers? |
| [23:43:00] | four8: | 7174 |
| [23:43:00] | CygnusX1: | my bad, typo...7174 here too. hmmm. |
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| [23:44:00] | revenger_: | four8: no |
| [23:44:00] | four8: | revenger_: you definitely want to start with a known-good channel |
| [23:44:00] | revenger_: | four8: mythtv-setup just shows up error setting transponder frequency |
| [23:44:00] | four8: | hm... |
| [23:45:00] | ** Beirdo digs a piece of glass out of his foot ** | |
| [23:45:00] | four8: | ow |
| [23:45:00] | revenger_: | four8: xine works fine with that usb dvb device :/ |
| [23:45:00] | four8: | had a chunk in mine last weekend,wasnm' |
| [23:45:00] | four8: | wasn't cool |
| [23:45:00] | revenger_: | woner what's wrong with mythtv .. |
| [23:45:00] | revenger_: | wonder* |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | dropped a glass on the tile floor in the kitchen the other day |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | and managed to step on a piece, it seems |
| [23:46:00] | four8: | not sure where the glass came from here, but I was stupidly moving furniture about barefoot, so it was deep and gushing blood all over |
| [23:46:00] | four8: | :)( |
| [23:46:00] | four8: | :) |
| [23:46:00] | four8: | revenger_: does the channel scan find channels? |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | ooh, lovely |
| [23:46:00] | revenger_: | four8: no |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | I'm often barefoot, so I get what I deserve |
| [23:47:00] | four8: | oy, I need to get my arse outside to mow the lawn so I can head to the field without my wife giving me the evil eye... |
| [23:47:00] | ** four8 hears whip cracking ** | |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | keep her happy, dude |
| [23:48:00] | four8: | tryin' |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | I think I'll use rum as the antiseptic. hehe |
| [23:48:00] | four8: | 'tis hard sometimes, but she's had most of the weekend sans-child, so she's in a pretty good mood right now (a 2 year old eating a dilly bar is hilarious) |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [23:49:00] | four8: | watch out for the gout! |
| [23:49:00] | four8: | :) |
| [23:49:00] | four8: | later all... |
| [23:49:00] | revenger_: | four8: the signal bar goes up and down though it cannot find anything any idea? |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | seeya :) |
| [23:49:00] | Cromz: | c'ya four8 |
| [23:50:00] | four8: | revenger_: sorry, I'm outta time and ideas atm, I don't really know dvb too well, just stating to use it myself... |
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| [23:51:00] | revenger_: | can anyone else help me with that problem? |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, I have no DVB at all |
| [23:51:00] | tuxristo: | mchou or any other mdk user around? |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | not sure what to suggest, revenger_ |
| [23:51:00] | topping: | sorry if this has been asked already-- can myth 0.18 frontend talk to 0.17 backend okay? |
| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | topping: no |
| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | you have to upgrade both |
| [23:52:00] | topping: | okay thanks |
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