| Sunday, April 17th, 2005, 00:03 UTC | ||
| [00:03:00] | leOn: | one other thing ... the machine where i want to have mythtv is headless .. it's only attached to the TV .. i've set X to use the TV and it's working, but keep getting a vertical bar one the left side of the screen ... could it be that the graphic card is damaged or could it be configuration problem ? |
| [00:03:00] | quink: | so anyone on gentoo get things going? |
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| [00:07:00] | ByteNik: | hmm |
| [00:07:00] | ByteNik: | I'm getting a device or resource busy on alsa:digital |
| [00:07:00] | ByteNik: | I seriously have no idea what I did... it was fine a few mins ago |
| [00:07:00] | ByteNik: | :P |
| [00:07:00] | ByteNik: | what would cause a dev/res busy error for alsa? |
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| [00:11:00] | ByteNik: | okay, this is stupid... i have 82% cpu idle and i'm getting audio stuttering |
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| [00:22:00] | ByteNik: | ookay.... |
| [00:22:00] | ByteNik: | where do i tell myth that i'm running on 4x3? |
| [00:22:00] | ByteNik: | it thinks i'm using 16x9 so when i choose Fill, it does weird compression stuff to the picture |
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| [00:26:00] | Netslayer: | anyone know if the UNKNOWN protocol bug was fixed in 18? |
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| [00:27:00] | stoffel: | i believe so |
| [00:28:00] | Netslayer: | guess i'll have to wait for the ebuilds to come out |
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| [00:28:00] | stoffel: | actually i'm 90% sure, got hit by it and tested a fix for it with chutt |
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| [00:33:00] | marmoset: | it's weird to see processes that have been running since 03 |
| [00:34:00] | leOn: | marmoset: 2yo processes ? |
| [00:34:00] | marmoset: | le0n: yeh, daemons ;) |
| [00:34:00] | leOn: | woah |
| [00:35:00] | leOn: | and they really do something? or they just .. "run"? .. ;) |
| [00:35:00] | marmoset: | snmpd has been up that long, it's queried every 5m about disk and stuff |
| [00:36:00] | marmoset: | 800+ days of uptime |
| [00:36:00] | marmoset: | that's when we last moved datacenters ;) |
| [00:36:00] | ByteNik: | fryfrog: Perhaps we should talk here? ^^ |
| [00:36:00] | marmoset: | had over 1000 on a few machines when we moved to the current one |
| [00:36:00] | fryfrog: | haha |
| [00:36:00] | fryfrog: | okay, good idea |
| [00:36:00] | ByteNik: | fryfrog: Yah, I tried that and it didn't fix it. |
| [00:37:00] | fryfrog: | what about just using mplayer to play an hdtv clip? |
| [00:37:00] | ByteNik: | fryfrog: And opening this up and swapping sound cards would be a pain right now. |
| [00:37:00] | fryfrog: | does that work okay (iimagine it does) |
| [00:37:00] | ByteNik: | fryfrog: No issues... its just myth |
| [00:37:00] | fryfrog: | which myth lib? |
| [00:37:00] | fryfrog: | libmpeg2 or ffmpeg? |
| [00:37:00] | ByteNik: | fryfrog: And actually, the first channel tuned to after starting mythfrontend is fine (livetv) and all recorded tv is fine |
| [00:37:00] | ByteNik: | Its just after changing channels. |
| [00:37:00] | ByteNik: | But if I change channels, close mythfrontend, reopen, and watch (it goes back to the last watched channel) its absolutely fine. |
| [00:38:00] | fryfrog: | weird |
| [00:38:00] | ByteNik: | If I change channels again the cycle repeats. |
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| [00:39:00] | ByteNik: | obviously, its not usable like that |
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| [00:45:00] | fryfrog: | what happens if you change the mpeg decode lib used? |
| [00:45:00] | ByteNik: | i don't think it helped, but let me try it again... h/o one sec |
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| [00:47:00] | r0dzilla: | anybody awake? |
| [00:47:00] | r0dzilla: | hehe |
| [00:49:00] | fryfrog: | nah, 8pm is my bed time... bot takes over :) |
| [00:51:00] | ByteNik: | bleh |
| [00:52:00] | ByteNik: | nope, it made it worse |
| [00:52:00] | ByteNik: | btw, when i said it is flawless on the first watch... |
| [00:52:00] | ByteNik: | i meant video |
| [00:52:00] | ByteNik: | audio is still garbled/non existant |
| [00:54:00] | jemarcks_: | is a pvr250 a better choice than a 150 now? |
| [00:54:00] | r0dzilla: | I just got done re-doing my pvr box |
| [00:55:00] | r0dzilla: | got mythtv installed but the livetv is jittery |
| [00:55:00] | jemarcks_: | what did you re-do? |
| [00:55:00] | r0dzilla: | wiped the hd clean |
| [00:55:00] | jemarcks_: | ah |
| [00:55:00] | r0dzilla: | started from scratch |
| [00:55:00] | r0dzilla: | gento 2005.0 install |
| [00:56:00] | r0dzilla: | but livetv seems to get stuck about every 2 seconds |
| [00:56:00] | jemarcks_: | did you use the new 0.18 mythtv? |
| [00:56:00] | r0dzilla: | think it's 0.17 |
| [00:56:00] | r0dzilla: | lemme see |
| [00:56:00] | r0dzilla: | yeah 0.17 |
| [00:57:00] | jemarcks_: | ok, 0.18 was released today anyway |
| [00:57:00] | r0dzilla: | what does it fix? |
| [00:57:00] | r0dzilla: | even the mythtv overlays (channel number at top and show info at bottom) jump around |
| [00:57:00] | jemarcks_: | duno |
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| [00:58:00] | r0dzilla: | I wonder if I should bump up hd size used for livetv |
| [00:59:00] | r0dzilla: | ah, my hd doesn't have dma turned on I wonder if that could be hurting performance... |
| [01:00:00] | ikaro: | anyone can try this please: mythfrontend -> Watch tv -> press "m" for OSD > program guide -> press cursor up. |
| [01:00:00] | ikaro: | it segfaults here. |
| [01:02:00] | r0dzilla: | well now mine doesn't have the jitters anymore, but it plays about 3–5 seconds of video, then halts |
| [01:02:00] | r0dzilla: | like it's paused |
| [01:03:00] | r0dzilla: | ok, I ran it on the cmd line and now I see alot of these messages: |
| [01:03:00] | r0dzilla: | waiting for prebuffer |
| [01:03:00] | r0dzilla: | prebuffering pause |
| [01:04:00] | r0dzilla: | those two messages over and over again |
| [01:08:00] | ByteNik: | lol |
| [01:08:00] | ByteNik: | thank you |
| [01:08:00] | ByteNik: | someone else has the problem now |
| [01:08:00] | ByteNik: | :P |
| [01:08:00] | r0dzilla: | whcih problem? |
| [01:08:00] | ByteNik: | prebuffering pause |
| [01:08:00] | ByteNik: | :P |
| [01:08:00] | r0dzilla: | hehe |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | mine's different tho, i just keep getting video stopping for 1–2 seconds and that messag |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | message* |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | then it resumes for a sec or so, and repeats over and over |
| [01:09:00] | r0dzilla: | I just found out something that could be causing a performance problem |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | ? |
| [01:09:00] | r0dzilla: | kernel doesn't have support for the via chipset the mobo uses |
| [01:09:00] | r0dzilla: | especially for the hd controller |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | ah |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | well, that's not my issue |
| [01:09:00] | ByteNik: | :P |
| [01:09:00] | r0dzilla: | thought it was set but it's not |
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| [01:14:00] | r0dzilla: | my sinuses are paying me back for mowing the lawn earlier today |
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| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | r0dzilla: sounds like you have xvmc enabled |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | try turning that off |
| [01:17:00] | ByteNik: | okay, here's a question.... |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | its a setting in the menus somewhere |
| [01:17:00] | ByteNik: | I have my pvr150 and pvr250 both setup... |
| [01:17:00] | ByteNik: | the pvr250 works fine |
| [01:17:00] | ByteNik: | the pvr150 shows static |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | bah, i didn't know you had a 250 :p |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | which ivtv you using for 150? |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | 0.3.2? |
| [01:17:00] | ByteNik: | 0.3.2z |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | hummm |
| [01:17:00] | ByteNik: | plugging/unplugging the input to the 150 doesn't change anything |
| [01:18:00] | ByteNik: | well it kinda does |
| [01:18:00] | fryfrog: | is dmesg good? |
| [01:18:00] | ByteNik: | unplugging it makes static constant |
| [01:18:00] | fryfrog: | does it detect the tuner type and such? |
| [01:18:00] | ByteNik: | plugging it makes static come and go in bursts |
| [01:18:00] | fryfrog: | air2pc AND pvr150 |
| [01:18:00] | fryfrog: | you have all the new toys :) |
| [01:18:00] | ByteNik: | http://www.pastebin.com/272221 |
| [01:19:00] | ByteNik: | looks fine to me... |
| [01:21:00] | ByteNik: | see anything wrong with it? |
| [01:22:00] | ByteNik: | what tuner should it be detecting? |
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| [01:23:00] | r0dzilla: | I'm rebooting my pvr nwo |
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| [01:24:00] | ByteNik: | fryfrog: ??? |
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| [01:25:00] | fryfrog: | dmesg looks fine to me |
| [01:25:00] | ByteNik: | hmm |
| [01:25:00] | fryfrog: | have you tried the rca/svideo inputs instead? |
| [01:25:00] | ByteNik: | nope |
| [01:25:00] | r0dzilla: | anyone know what kernel option produces the msp3400.ko module? |
| [01:25:00] | ByteNik: | is that the right tuner tho? |
| [01:25:00] | fryfrog: | msp3400 is from ivtv, not kernel |
| [01:25:00] | r0dzilla: | I know you have to delete it so that the system sees the version ivtv makes |
| [01:25:00] | r0dzilla: | yeah but the kernel has one too |
| [01:25:00] | fryfrog: | ByteNik: i couldn't tell you, the same "model" tv card can have almost any tuner type |
| [01:26:00] | r0dzilla: | mythtv instructions say to remove any kernel versions so that the ivtv one is used |
| [01:26:00] | ByteNik: | i thought the 150 were unified at the moment though. |
| [01:26:00] | fryfrog: | r0dzilla: i usually just throw in bt878 as a module and that gets me the right ones |
| [01:26:00] | ByteNik: | i know the 250's have like a million revisions |
| [01:26:00] | fryfrog: | i don't see why the 150 would only have one tuner type |
| [01:26:00] | fryfrog: | you could try forcing it to typ e48, 49, etc |
| [01:26:00] | ByteNik: | how can i do that without forcing the 250 to the same tuner type? |
| [01:27:00] | fryfrog: | humm, good question :/ |
| [01:27:00] | fryfrog: | i don't even know how to force it :) |
| [01:27:00] | fryfrog: | i just let the auto-detect do mine |
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| [01:33:00] | leOn: | what's the best grapich card to use with mythtv ? |
| [01:33:00] | leOn: | s/pich/phic/ |
| [01:33:00] | ikaro: | coffe |
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| [01:34:00] | r0dzilla: | le0n, pvr250/350 seems to be the most popular, I have the 250, both these cards have hardware mpeg builtin so it takes some work off the cpu |
| [01:35:00] | ByteNik: | okay, what might be some values for tuner for a pvr-150? |
| [01:35:00] | leOn: | r0dzilla: not capture card ... i'm talking about graphics card |
| [01:35:00] | ByteNik: | b/c changing the tuner type keeps changing the picture |
| [01:35:00] | ByteNik: | nothing resembling tv yet, but different stuff now |
| [01:35:00] | leOn: | i already have a pvr-250 |
| [01:35:00] | r0dzilla: | just for watching tv, a 64mb nvidia or ati with tv-out should be fine |
| [01:40:00] | fryfrog: | i'd go for something GF4~+ |
| [01:40:00] | fryfrog: | you should be able to get an old GF4 for like $20 |
| [01:41:00] | leOn: | thinking about a gf4 mx440 or something ... |
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| [01:46:00] | ikaro: | anyone with a tuner type 38 thats working ? |
| [01:46:00] | r0dzilla: | what's a tuner type 38? |
| [01:47:00] | ikaro: | just read some threads in the forums.. seems that many users have problems with that type. |
| [01:47:00] | ikaro: | tuner: type set to 38 (Philips |
| [01:47:00] | ikaro: | pvr-350 |
| [01:52:00] | ikaro: | ok. got it working again .. gezzus christ finally. |
| [01:52:00] | ** ikaro starts writing some documentation. ** | |
| [01:55:00] | leOn: | fsck .. how do i disable dpms from the tv-out ? |
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| [02:00:00] | leOn: | having a 16:9 tv, what's the best card so i can have the full overscan ? |
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| [02:21:00] | r0dzilla: | what does everyone have their "minimum free live tv buffer (mb)" set to? |
| [02:23:00] | ikaro: | http://ikaro.homepage.dk/pvr350.html |
| [02:23:00] | ikaro: | this works. |
| [02:24:00] | dhofstra: | I just compiled 0.18 today... is it me, or is mythbrowser missing? |
| [02:24:00] | Agrajag-: | anyone know how to make the theme menu font smaller? |
| [02:24:00] | r0dzilla: | ikaro, so tuner.ko and tveeprom.ko need to be disabled as well as msp3400.ko? |
| [02:24:00] | ikaro: | yep |
| [02:24:00] | Agrajag-: | i've gone through setup and made the fonts "small", which works for buttons/setup screens and stuff |
| [02:24:00] | Agrajag-: | but the theme fonts are still the same size |
| [02:24:00] | r0dzilla: | anyway to stop the kernel from making those modules? |
| [02:25:00] | ikaro: | r0dzilla, guess not .. |
| [02:25:00] | ikaro: | i think they are build because of v4l |
| [02:25:00] | r0dzilla: | the mplayer docs has a little script to get rid of msp3400 |
| [02:26:00] | r0dzilla: | cd /lib/modules `uname -r`; find . -name "msp3400*" | xargs rm |
| [02:26:00] | r0dzilla: | guess that could be done for the others |
| [02:26:00] | r0dzilla: | maybe a local init script could disable those files so new kernel compiles don't mess things up |
| [02:27:00] | r0dzilla: | oops |
| [02:27:00] | r0dzilla: | type |
| [02:27:00] | r0dzilla: | cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`; find . -name "msp3400*" | xargs rm |
| [02:28:00] | r0dzilla: | if you do the find by itself it also finds the msp3400.ko in an extras dir |
| [02:29:00] | r0dzilla: | maybe instead of rm, the script could mv them to a backup dir, maybe in /root |
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| [02:38:00] | r0dzilla: | ikaro, do I need to disable tuner.ko and tveeprom.ko on a pvr 250 setup too or is that just for pvr 350 |
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| [02:40:00] | ikaro: | r0dzilla, dono i only have a pvr350 |
| [02:40:00] | ikaro: | but try it. |
| [02:40:00] | ikaro: | use the modules from the ivtv driver only. |
| [02:41:00] | r0dzilla: | I just setup a script to disable the kernel msp3400/tuner/tveeprom modules everytime at boot |
| [02:41:00] | r0dzilla: | that way if a new kernel is installed |
| [02:41:00] | r0dzilla: | it will take care of it |
| [02:41:00] | r0dzilla: | lemme reboot |
| [02:43:00] | ikaro: | i also did the firmware thing with the firmware from the cdrom |
| [02:44:00] | r0dzilla: | hmmm |
| [02:44:00] | r0dzilla: | I may want to change the script to run during the shutdown/restart process |
| [02:44:00] | r0dzilla: | instead of when it's booting |
| [02:45:00] | r0dzilla: | cause the local script gets run last |
| [02:46:00] | r0dzilla: | it's failing to load msp3400 and tveeprom |
| [02:46:00] | r0dzilla: | I guess I need to re-install ivtv |
| [02:47:00] | r0dzilla: | I could probably (on finding the kernel's msp3400 module has returned) force a re-emerge of ivtv too... |
| [02:54:00] | r0dzilla: | ok, it seems to be working a little better |
| [02:55:00] | r0dzilla: | the picture still "jitters" every once and a while |
| [02:55:00] | r0dzilla: | however |
| [02:55:00] | r0dzilla: | now changing channels doesn't work |
| [02:55:00] | ikaro: | in some channels the image sucks |
| [02:55:00] | r0dzilla: | it's stuck on one channel |
| [02:55:00] | ikaro: | im getting some sort of waves from left to right |
| [02:55:00] | r0dzilla: | even though the OSD says I'm on a different channel |
| [02:57:00] | r0dzilla: | does that mean my tuner type is wrong? |
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| [02:59:00] | oneo: | hey guys – is there a dvd-burning plugin for mythtv? i googled it and i found places that says its possible but havent found any sites with links to the actual plugin |
| [03:02:00] | r0dzilla: | there is a dvd-rip plugin |
| [03:03:00] | r0dzilla: | but I don't think there is a dvd-burn plugin |
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| [03:09:00] | Gumby: | I'm trying to run nuvexport and I am getting the following errors... |
| [03:09:00] | Gumby: | Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 14 |
| [03:09:00] | Gumby: | Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/nuv_export/ui.pm line 17 |
| [03:09:00] | r0dzilla: | anybody got mythweb going? |
| [03:09:00] | Gumby: | Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/bin/nuvexport line 29. |
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| [03:11:00] | Gumby: | seems like those lines are , use mythtv::db, use mythtv::recordings and use nuv_export::ui respectively. Anyone know where I might get these from |
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| [03:16:00] | r0dzilla: | mythweb is working now |
| [03:16:00] | DJ_Rican: | :( |
| [03:17:00] | DJ_Rican: | can't fix my problem... :( |
| [03:17:00] | DJ_Rican: | ack.. help... my mythtv box just suddenly won't show on tv once x or mythtv are loaded... I can see everything fine until the Nvidia logo and then just weird scrolls... I didn't change anything, it's been running like that for months |
| [03:17:00] | r0dzilla: | well I do have a problem currently... mythtv isn't changing channels |
| [03:17:00] | DJ_Rican: | wrong tuner |
| [03:17:00] | r0dzilla: | it seems to be stuck on a channel and no matter what mythtv's OSD says, it stays on one channel |
| [03:17:00] | DJ_Rican: | try a different one |
| [03:18:00] | r0dzilla: | which one do I use for pvr250? |
| [03:18:00] | r0dzilla: | I think I'm using tuner=2 |
| [03:18:00] | DJ_Rican: | hmm.. try 4 |
| [03:18:00] | r0dzilla: | ooooh, mythweb is sweet! |
| [03:18:00] | DJ_Rican: | i can't access my system except thru webmin so i can't tell you which one i have right now |
| [03:23:00] | r0dzilla: | tuner=4 isn't working either |
| [03:23:00] | r0dzilla: | hmmm |
| [03:24:00] | DJ_Rican: | keep trying |
| [03:24:00] | r0dzilla: | I may have found something |
| [03:24:00] | r0dzilla: | tuner module isn't loaded |
| [03:24:00] | r0dzilla: | and it can't find it |
| [03:24:00] | r0dzilla: | I removed the kernel's version |
| [03:24:00] | r0dzilla: | but it looks like it can't find ivtv's version |
| [03:25:00] | r0dzilla: | re-emerging ivtv |
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| [03:27:00] | Agrajag-: | anyone know how to change the aspect ratio nuvexport uses? it always tells me it's doing 4:3, but i need 16:9 |
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| [03:28:00] | DJ_Rican: | ahh... :) |
| [03:29:00] | r0dzilla: | ikaro, you still here? |
| [03:29:00] | mishehu: | bah. can't get this pci-express vidcard to work... |
| [03:31:00] | r0dzilla: | ivtv doesn't generate a tuner.ko |
| [03:31:00] | r0dzilla: | that seems to be why it's not working |
| [03:31:00] | r0dzilla: | I'll have to move it back |
| [03:32:00] | r0dzilla: | so it seems you have to disable only msp3400 and tveeprom, not tuner |
| [03:32:00] | r0dzilla: | from the kernel modules |
| [03:35:00] | Agrajag-: | xris you about? |
| [03:36:00] | fryfrog: | r0dzilla: no, ivtv does NOT make tuner.o |
| [03:36:00] | fryfrog: | r0dzilla: you need to select something in your kernel that does, like bt878 |
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| [03:36:00] | ikaro: | r0dzilla, yep |
| [03:36:00] | ** r0dzilla found out the hard way ;) ** | |
| [03:36:00] | r0dzilla: | fixing it now |
| [03:37:00] | AranC23: | ivtv does indeed have it's own tuner.ko |
| [03:37:00] | AranC23: | at least as of 0.3.2q... |
| [03:37:00] | AranC23: | and you should use it, if you expect ivtv to work at all |
| [03:38:00] | r0dzilla: | ikaro, you emerging ivtv or manually compiling a downloaded tarball? |
| [03:38:00] | ikaro: | download the driver from the ivtv website. |
| [03:38:00] | ikaro: | i didnt emerge anything. |
| [03:39:00] | r0dzilla: | not even mythtv? |
| [03:39:00] | ikaro: | well .. mythtv I did emerge it. |
| [03:39:00] | r0dzilla: | hehe |
| [03:39:00] | fryfrog: | 0.3.2 has its own tuner module? |
| [03:39:00] | ikaro: | all have. |
| [03:39:00] | ikaro: | afaik |
| [03:39:00] | fryfrog: | 0.2.x does not for sure though, and that is what gentoo ebuilds point to |
| [03:39:00] | r0dzilla: | yeah... |
| [03:39:00] | fryfrog: | no, i'm 99.8% sure that anything below 0.3 does not have it |
| [03:39:00] | fryfrog: | (but i don't know about 0.3 itself |
| [03:40:00] | r0dzilla: | once I get everything setup, I may move from gentoo ivtv ebuilds and do ivtv manually from source |
| [03:40:00] | fryfrog: | copy the ivtv ebuild to /usr/local/portage |
| [03:40:00] | fryfrog: | and just modify it |
| [03:40:00] | ikaro: | gotta find out how to record while watching .. |
| [03:40:00] | fryfrog: | thats what i do, to keep current |
| [03:40:00] | fryfrog: | ikaro: if something is scheduled to record, just go to view recordings after its started and watch it |
| [03:41:00] | r0dzilla: | I saw on "the screen savers/attack of the show" that some hdtv tuner cards may be outlawed or something |
| [03:41:00] | fryfrog: | ikaro: if you want to record something you are watching on livetv, goto the menu (or maybe R?) |
| [03:41:00] | fryfrog: | that "do'nt record" flag has to obeyed |
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| [03:41:00] | fryfrog: | the cards won't be "outlawed" but they won't be legal to make anymore |
| [03:41:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: sort of |
| [03:41:00] | fryfrog: | after june i think? |
| [03:41:00] | ikaro: | and to stop it ? |
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| [03:42:00] | xris: | fryfrog: or sell |
| [03:42:00] | fryfrog: | can't even sell current stock? |
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| [03:42:00] | xris: | don't think so |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | don't know for sure |
| [03:42:00] | fryfrog: | thats probably not true |
| [03:42:00] | fryfrog: | its probably that they can't be manufatured or imported |
| [03:42:00] | AranC23: | damn it... if anyone disagreed with my ivtv assertions, I missed it cause I closed the mythtv-users window |
| [03:42:00] | fryfrog: | very few laws that kick in like that |
| [03:42:00] | ** r0dzilla wonders if I should try to grab one before it's too late ** | |
| [03:43:00] | mocker: | I decided to try some Windows PVR software |
| [03:43:00] | fryfrog: | even anti-gun laws mostly allow already made stuff to be sold |
| [03:43:00] | mocker: | Couldn't find any that I like. ;) |
| [03:43:00] | fryfrog: | i think i'm gonna have to get an air2pc card :/ |
| [03:43:00] | fryfrog: | maybe someone will buy one or two of my pvr 250s :) |
| [03:43:00] | fryfrog: | anyone want a pvr 250 for $80? |
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| [03:44:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery/ResistorSex |
| [03:44:00] | fryfrog: | thats funny, if you aren't easily offended :) |
| [03:44:00] | ikaro: | hmm .. so R starts recording .. how do i stop it now ? |
| [03:45:00] | ikaro: | reading the website about the keyboard keys .. but .. |
| [03:45:00] | fryfrog: | ikaro: M for menu, then "stop recording" maybe? |
| [03:45:00] | fryfrog: | it might also just natrually stop when the show is over |
| [03:45:00] | fryfrog: | i never watch livetv, so i dunno :( |
| [03:48:00] | ikaro: | no .. |
| [03:48:00] | ikaro: | im running out of Hd space pretty soom |
| [03:48:00] | ikaro: | why isnt there a key to "stop recording" |
| [03:48:00] | r0dzilla: | my video store is an lvm partition so I can add another hd and keep on going |
| [03:50:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: im trying to use nuvexport to xvid.. but no matter what size i specify, the resulting vid is stretched vertically, as it seems to be 4:3 instead of 16:9. watching the vid in myth it's fine.. any ideas? |
| [03:51:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: bug Beirdo. he changed something in the aspect ratio code recently |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | the output video will have the same aspect ratio as the input video |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | run nuvinfo on the file, see what aspect ratio it's detected as |
| [03:53:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah it says 4:3 |
| [03:53:00] | Agrajag-: | but it plays as if it's 16:9 in myth? |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | what is your input? |
| [03:53:00] | Agrajag-: | if i change aspect ratios in myth, 4:3 looks wrong, 16:9 looks right, none looks the same as 16:9 |
| [03:53:00] | Agrajag-: | input? as in card? |
| [03:53:00] | Agrajag-: | dvb |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | OK, so either the file has the wrong aspect ratio in it, or mplayer's reading it wrong, or we are interpreting it wrong |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | do you have the current nuvexport? |
| [03:54:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | gimme a sec |
| [03:55:00] | Agrajag-: | nuvinfo does say 1.33 |
| [03:56:00] | Beirdo: | mplayer -v -v -v -v -nolirc -nojoystick -vo null -ao null -frames 0 -identify FILENAME | grep ASPECT |
| [03:56:00] | Beirdo: | fill in the filename of course |
| [03:58:00] | Beirdo: | waiting.... |
| [03:58:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:58:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm mplayer doesn't seem to like this nuv |
| [03:58:00] | Agrajag-: | wont play it |
| [03:58:00] | Agrajag-: | doesn't give anything from that command |
| [03:58:00] | Agrajag-: | (it has been transcoded) |
| [03:58:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [03:58:00] | Beirdo: | that's an important detail :) |
| [03:59:00] | Agrajag-: | heh sorry :/ |
| [03:59:00] | Beirdo: | what version of myth? |
| [03:59:00] | Agrajag-: | 0.18 |
| [03:59:00] | Beirdo: | you transcoded it in 0.18? |
| [03:59:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like a bug in myth to me |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | if the nuv file says it's 1.333, then we treat it as such |
| [04:01:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. i dont know how myth knows to play it right then |
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| [04:02:00] | Agrajag-: | is there any way i can force nuvexport to do 16:9 for now? |
| [04:02:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [04:03:00] | Beirdo: | not at this time |
| [04:05:00] | Agrajag-: | print "Default resolution based on 4:3 aspect ratio.\n"; <-- generic.pm – why is 4:3 hardcoded there? |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: http://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | be our first trouble ticket. :) |
| [04:06:00] | Agrajag-: | heh ok |
| [04:06:00] | Beirdo: | that's saying that the resolution defaults for output xvid are based on 4:3. override them at will, the video will get letterboxed |
| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | ah ok |
| [04:08:00] | ikaro: | whats the name of the mixer for alsa ? |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | alsamixer |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | I think |
| [04:08:00] | ikaro: | erm |
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| [04:09:00] | ikaro: | mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory , Check mixer name in setup : /usr/bin/alsamixer |
| [04:10:00] | ikaro: | so i have to use /dev/dsp from oss |
| [04:10:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know. I use OSS, ALSA is overrated for me |
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| [04:13:00] | ikaro: | nm. |
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| [04:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | anyone use a PVR-500? |
| [04:16:00] | doubleoh: | I have mythtv running fine and wonder why the +0100 offset isn't fixing the Program scheduled times. SNL starts at 10:30 instead of 11:30. Thanks for the help in advance. |
| [04:17:00] | doubleoh: | I cleared out everything out after I set the +0100 setting. |
| [04:17:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ticket/1 |
| [04:17:00] | xris: | heh |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh, and assigned to me |
| [04:18:00] | soccer45202: | i just installed the 0.3x ivtv driver for my pvr-500...the driver is configure properly and video0/video1 both show up – the problem is that they do not show up as a v4l device – what do i need to do for that to happen? |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | great |
| [04:18:00] | Agrajag-: | i didn't assign it |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | now it's assigned to beirdo. :) |
| [04:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | soccer: do you have any of the kernel v4l stuff built? |
| [04:19:00] | soccer45202: | not sure...i have a std ubuntu install |
| [04:19:00] | soccer45202: | i would think it would be |
| [04:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | did you delete the conflicting modules? |
| [04:20:00] | soccer45202: | i did |
| [04:20:00] | soccer45202: | or moved them to an /old |
| [04:20:00] | xris: | heh, sweet. can set mime types on files with subversion. |
| [04:21:00] | doubleoh: | Anyone have the Daylight Savings Time bug with mythtv? |
| [04:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmm |
| [04:21:00] | doubleoh: | or xmltv? |
| [04:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | which version of the ivtv drivers? |
| [04:21:00] | soccer45202: | 0.3.2y |
| [04:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | 0.3.2z is the latest |
| [04:21:00] | soccer45202: | i just downloaded them today |
| [04:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | I managed to get the drivers built and installed for my pvr-500 |
| [04:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | I just have other problems |
| [04:22:00] | soccer45202: | heh...the weird thing is that when i check the dmesg it says that they are referenced correctly |
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| [04:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | when you modprobe ivtv does it register lots of stuff in dmesg? |
| [04:23:00] | soccer45202: | yeah...registerd v4l2 device – two times |
| [04:24:00] | soccer45202: | actually, more than that |
| [04:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | what isn't showing up as a v4l device? |
| [04:24:00] | soccer45202: | nothing is in /dev/v4l |
| [04:25:00] | soccer45202: | and when i attempt to write to a file or load the /dev/video0 in tvtime it says it cannot access it |
| [04:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | are you using udev? |
| [04:25:00] | soccer45202: | actually, if i cat to a file it makes the file, but i cannot open it |
| [04:26:00] | soccer45202: | i believe that ubuntu 5.04 does use udev |
| [04:26:00] | [Klatuu]: | <--uses der Gentoo |
| [04:26:00] | soccer45202: | i see |
| [04:26:00] | soccer45202: | i am not there yet ;) |
| [04:26:00] | soccer45202: | often tempted, but have not made it a priority |
| [04:27:00] | soccer45202: | [Klatuu], is there anyway i can go about diagnosing the problem? |
| [04:28:00] | soccer45202: | [Klatuu], i spent all day reading how-to's |
| [04:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | have you checked out the ivtv mailing list? |
| [04:30:00] | soccer45202: | i have read some stuff on it |
| [04:31:00] | soccer45202: | and a lot of stuff on the wiki |
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| [04:31:00] | oneo: | hey guys – when playing back a video or watching live tv, the screen goes black every few minutes until i hit like the info button then it comes back. does anyone know what could cause that and how to possibly fix it? it might be related to a previous problem that i had when the screen would go black if i pulled up the epg while watching tv and then closed it without changing channel |
| [04:31:00] | r0dzilla: | hmmm |
| [04:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | you and I are probably in the same boat |
| [04:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | lots of documentation |
| [04:32:00] | [Klatuu]: | but not for our problem |
| [04:32:00] | ikaro: | oneo, edit your xorg.conf |
| [04:32:00] | r0dzilla: | the tv lineup is at least 30 mins off |
| [04:32:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have S-video working |
| [04:32:00] | r0dzilla: | no, an hour off |
| [04:32:00] | [Klatuu]: | just sound is being whacky |
| [04:32:00] | oneo: | ikaro – what am i looking for in xorg.conf? |
| [04:32:00] | soccer45202: | ah...that is fun...i wish i had anything at this point...but i share your frustration |
| [04:32:00] | r0dzilla: | lemme see if zap2it shows the same info |
| [04:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | either I capture sound |
| [04:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | or it is scratchy sounding |
| [04:33:00] | ikaro: | oneo, Option "blank time" "XX" |
| [04:33:00] | ikaro: | you can disable that with xset |
| [04:34:00] | [Klatuu]: | there is an #ivtv-dev channel here |
| [04:35:00] | soccer45202: | ok |
| [04:35:00] | soccer45202: | i will check that out |
| [04:35:00] | ikaro: | but its dead.. |
| [04:35:00] | [Klatuu]: | no one seems to be alive right now though |
| [04:35:00] | ikaro: | now ? heh |
| [04:35:00] | soccer45202: | thank you and best of luck with you audio |
| [04:35:00] | [Klatuu]: | it's the first time I entered it |
| [04:36:00] | [Klatuu]: | danke |
| [04:36:00] | oneo: | ikaro – would that take care of the epg problem too? |
| [04:36:00] | ikaro: | ive been there for some time and i never seen anything say nothing |
| [04:36:00] | ikaro: | oneo, dono. |
| [04:37:00] | oneo: | anyone happen to know what could cause that? i haven found anything on google...im using the pvr-350 tv output by the way |
| [04:41:00] | r0dzilla: | anyone using mythweb? |
| [04:41:00] | r0dzilla: | it works fine until I go to the weather screen (in mythweb, not the frontend) |
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| [04:44:00] | ikaro: | 05:38:22.100 Opening audio device 'dmix'. |
| [04:44:00] | soccer45202: | [Klatuu], when i try and run xawtv, it says that v4l-conf is compiled w/o DGA support and that /dev/video0 [v4l2] has no overlay support |
| [04:44:00] | ikaro: | erm but its not using dmix anyway .. |
| [04:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | soccer: dunno |
| [04:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | however |
| [04:45:00] | soccer45202: | ok |
| [04:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | the PVR-500 does have a memory |
| [04:45:00] | soccer45202: | what do you get when you run v4l-conf? |
| [04:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | if you tweak something and reboot |
| [04:45:00] | soccer45202: | i did a hard reset |
| [04:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | it may still have an old config |
| [04:45:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: ya mine works fine. I followed readme in the root of mythweb, |
| [04:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | turn it off and let it stay off for a few mins |
| [04:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | there is no v4l-conf |
| [04:46:00] | soccer45202: | i will try shutting down again...okay, thanks |
| [04:47:00] | r0dzilla: | Cromz, does the weather page work too? |
| [04:47:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: yes. |
| [04:47:00] | r0dzilla: | there's a readme in the htdocs/mythweb dir? |
| [04:47:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: yes. |
| [04:47:00] | r0dzilla: | I'll have to check it out |
| [04:47:00] | r0dzilla: | everything else on mythweb is working except weather |
| [04:48:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: which myth? 0.17 or 0.18 ? |
| [04:48:00] | r0dzilla: | 0.17 |
| [04:48:00] | DJ_Rican: | ack.. help... my mythtv box just suddenly won't show on tv once x or mythtv are loaded... I can see everything fine until the Nvidia logo and then just weird scrolls... I didn't change anything, it's been running like that for months |
| [04:48:00] | Cromz: | oh.. heh |
| [04:49:00] | Cromz: | I'm using 0.18 |
| [04:49:00] | r0dzilla: | lemme see what the error is |
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| [04:50:00] | r0dzilla: | URL file access is disabled in the server configuration |
| [04:50:00] | r0dzilla: | sounds like an apache config needs tweaking |
| [04:50:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: and I'm fighting 2 things so far.. mythmusic and the lirc but I followed the docs on mythweb and it works real gooooood |
| [04:51:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: dunno if it's apache or the premissions on the image dir and session dir. |
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| [04:53:00] | Cromz: | heh a neat feature would be to give access rights to certain mythweb features.. like maybe letting some people see the status page.. or the tv listings but not let them setup or mess with recordings.. |
| [04:54:00] | xris: | blech. |
| [04:54:00] | Cromz: | LOL |
| [04:54:00] | xris: | had to turn the speed down on my dsl line again. |
| [04:54:00] | Cromz: | why? |
| [04:54:00] | xris: | bad phone lines |
| [04:55:00] | Cromz: | :/ |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | noise margins go wonky, I lose 99% connectivity |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | line goes up/down every 20 seconds. |
| [04:55:00] | Cromz: | damn the phone company! the phone police will get you.. |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | I did this to get AWAY from the phone company |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | no more phone company involved. I get VOIP next week, and will be dialtone free. |
| [04:56:00] | Cromz: | which company you going with? |
| [04:57:00] | r0dzilla: | Cromz, can you tell me who owns the files in your mythweb dir? |
| [04:57:00] | r0dzilla: | most in mine are owned by root:root, some are owned by the apache user |
| [04:57:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: apache.apache |
| [04:57:00] | r0dzilla: | all of them? |
| [04:57:00] | r0dzilla: | that may be my problem |
| [04:58:00] | Cromz: | hmm wait. the dirs are apache.apache |
| [04:58:00] | Cromz: | some of the files are root |
| [04:58:00] | Cromz: | but the write access is setup for anyone to write |
| [04:58:00] | r0dzilla: | ah |
| [04:58:00] | r0dzilla: | rwrwrw? |
| [05:01:00] | Cromz: | r0dzilla: only the two dirs are that way.. the image_chace and php_sessions |
| [05:01:00] | r0dzilla: | ah |
| [05:01:00] | Cromz: | er image_cache |
| [05:01:00] | r0dzilla: | well, it's bed time for me |
| [05:01:00] | r0dzilla: | my setup is ALMOST complete... |
| [05:01:00] | r0dzilla: | good night all... |
| [05:01:00] | Cromz: | night |
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| [05:34:00] | mchou: | hey, anyone have any funky issues with commercial flagging after .18 upgrade? |
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| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | hi mchou |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | hey defaultro |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | i see you posting about commercial flagging |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | well, just noticed something strange is all..... |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | how do you approach commercial flagging? what is your setting? |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | i want to try it |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | I just set detection method to "All" |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | am i correct that commercial flagging allows us to ignore commercials? |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | defaultro: dude, how long you been using myth? :) |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | but not during livetv right? |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | i have not use commercial flagging |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | i just turn it on sometimes |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | that's the whole point to myth, virtually. |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | but it doesnt work well |
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| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | like when I was watching 24, it gets skipped to early |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | works fantastic for me until 0.18 (Ebert & Roper) |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | i set it to ALL before |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | do you also turn on during watch recording |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | commercial detection doesnt work all that great on "dark" shows |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | i mean, the skip on? |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | I don't use autoskip. |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | you know what Im talking about right? |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | so autoskip is different than commercial flagging? |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | autoskip is a playback setting. |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | yeah, during when we watch recording |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | i press M and I select commercial skip |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | then i select the 4th choice |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | comercial flagging just attempts to detect commercial boundaries..... |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | so how do i use it |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | what key do I press? |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | read the docs man. |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | is it Z |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | keys.txt. |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | however |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | too tired and cranky to give you step by step instructions. |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | am i correct that we only have to react once we see the commercial? |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | i see you last night talking to riksta :) |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | that was 2am when i left |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | hehe, a hosed mobo. |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | so it got fixed |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | how did you find out about it? |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | dunno, riksta's problem. |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | cat /proc/interrupts |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | there were no irqs |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | ERR was atstronomical. |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | my commercial flagging works great on 24 though..... |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | almost 99% error free. |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | im reading up on commercial flagging :) |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | i had an impression that autoskip was the commercial flagging :( |
| [05:58:00] | defaultro: | im searching the docs now :) |
| [05:58:00] | defaultro: | i only found one, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.25 |
| [05:59:00] | defaultro: | ah, i was right with the letter Z |
| [05:59:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:00:00] | defaultro: | am i correct that it only works after program has been recorded? Since mythcomflag runs after the show is recorded |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | depends if you have HW or SW encoder. HW encoder is afterwards. |
| [06:00:00] | defaultro: | it's air2pc |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | no encoding |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | btw, madhaggis gave me a very nice rgbhv cable |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | nice. |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | i haven't seen him lately though |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | he mailed it to ya? |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | http://restricted.dyndns.org/tributaries.jpg |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | probably cost $5 to ship. those cables are heavy. |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | solid |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | i really like the rca connector |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | nice. |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | it has heavy grip |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | do you use lirc? |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | used too. not anymore though. |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | i do see some limitation but i might be wrong |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | i already have buttons recorded |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | too much PITA, just use my infrared keyboard now :) |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | now, i want to add a new one. Unfortunately, if I add a new one, it gets different settings |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | so the key if i add it to existing conf file will not work due to the previous capture |
| [06:05:00] | mchou: | new instance of lircd? |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | just want to add a button to an existing conf file |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | so, that shouldnt be too hard..... |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | i know but |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | if i want to capture that button, a new conf file is created |
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| [06:06:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | but some bits are different which will make the button unuseable to my other existing conf file |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | makes no sense. |
| [06:07:00] | zophyx: | how do i setup a user so that mythtv will run with no mysql errors ? |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | no worries |
| [06:08:00] | ikaro: | gnite |
| [06:08:00] | zophyx: | mythtv worked for me a while ago, but i've apt-get upgraded a dozen times since then |
| [06:09:00] | zophyx: | i am clueless about setting up a user for mysql |
| [06:09:00] | defaultro: | zophy? |
| [06:10:00] | defaultro: | do you know how to setup apache? |
| [06:11:00] | defaultro: | if so, do you know php? If so, download phpMyAdmin and it will allow you to administer mysql so easily |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | god, that's the most ridiculous suggestion I've heard. |
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| [06:11:00] | mchou: | use a nuclear bomb to squash a fly. |
| [06:11:00] | zophyx: | yeah |
| [06:11:00] | defaultro: | zophyx, actually if you read mc.sql, you will see the ssetting of permission there |
| [06:12:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:12:00] | zophyx: | give me a compas heading |
| [06:12:00] | zophyx: | where is mc.sql ? |
| [06:12:00] | defaultro: | mchou, the reason i suggested that is because, looks like zophyx doesn't know mysql :) |
| [06:12:00] | zophyx: | mysql sux |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | it's in your file system |
| [06:13:00] | zophyx: | wowser |
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| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | im running mythtv with DB2 backend |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | my other myth is running with Oracle backend |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | and the other one is informix |
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| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | mysql sux zophyx right |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | i think mythtv is not for you then :) |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | mchou, got an email from cyberestore, sales told me that cards will arrive may 20 or later |
| [06:15:00] | zophyx: | i don't even have a mc.sql file |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | defaultro: good deal. |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | i've been begging my wife about it |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | :) |
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| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | but just spent $3k for orlando vacation |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | defaultro: what, getting another one? |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | im getting tons of conflicts now |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | get a avermedia 180 for $70 |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | much cheaper. |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | my kids like cartoons but they're all in conflickt |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | avermedia? |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | for hd? |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | prrobably not as good, but get's the job done. |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | oh cool |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | exact model please |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | gabe you exact mode. |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | know someone who got it working? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | gave* |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | oh that's it :) |
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| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | why you said it's not as good? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | even works for qam |
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| [06:18:00] | mchou: | because it's most likely a similar design to hd3k. |
| [06:18:00] | zophyx: | ok i need to spec apt-get install mythtv, it doesn't happen with an update or upgrade |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:19:00] | defaultro: | have you already started searching previously about what driver it should be used for myth? |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | and god knows what cheap ass tuner they stuck on it...... |
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| [06:21:00] | rpete: | sometimes my prv250 will record for days, but with constants audio popping |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | defaultro: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp . . . 4&depa=0 |
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| [06:22:00] | mchou: | buy two for the price of 1 air2pc :) |
| [06:22:00] | mchou: | plus no bf :) |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | im searching google for some people using it |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | just want to see first |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | that's probably the cheapest atsc tuner card on the market. |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | or I should say "least expensive" |
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| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | yep |
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| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | im magnetized by the price |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | i want to buy it |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | but couldnt see anything in google |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | yeah, if it doesnt work sell it to a windows user :) |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | hardly any risk at all. |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | nope, i don't like that kind of route |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | http://msmvps.com/chrisl/archive/2005/04/12/41778.aspx |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | looking |
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| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | no, you didnt get me |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | i was looking for someone who has already used it with myth :) |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | i've seen that page earlier |
| [06:30:00] | mchou: | nobody has used it in linux, never mind myth. |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | but there is no reason it cant be used with a bit of driver hacking. |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | given how cheap it is someone will come up with a driver, trust me. :) |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | i'll post in dvb mailing list |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | but looks like it is supported starting with 2.6.10 |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | http://www.dtvforum.info/lofiversion/index.php/t16475.html |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | AverMedia AverTV DVB-T 771 or DVICO FusionHDTV Lite (both of which need 2.6.10). |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | got that from that thread |
| [06:34:00] | dopester: | what kinda demod does it use? |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | PS. I havent specifically measured it, but my AverTv DVB-T 771 with knoppmyth R5A10 changes in at least 3 or 4 seconds. |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | DVB-T is not the same as ATSC. but the driver can be leveraged. |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | hi doperster |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | i haven't look at the specs yet |
| [06:35:00] | dopester: | yeah it could be crap |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [06:35:00] | dopester: | there is so much deviation in 8vsb demods |
| [06:35:00] | dopester: | er variation |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | dopester: no specs, so your guess is as good as mine :) |
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| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | i'll just stick with air2pc :) |
| [06:39:00] | dopester: | man i would be getting evicted if i had an apartment.. my music is so loud tonight.. hehe |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | i was playing at 5db this morning |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | 2 channels only though :( |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | i'm still waiting for my spdif connector |
| [06:42:00] | oneo: | can mplayer play kvcds? |
| [06:43:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using kernel 2.6.11.7? |
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| [06:45:00] | jasoncohen: | fatmatt: there was an upgrade? |
| [06:46:00] | fatmatt: | new kernel versions seem to get released pretty regualarly |
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| [06:47:00] | mchou: | hehe, that's an undrstatement for 2.5 :) |
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| [06:47:00] | mchou: | 2.6* |
| [06:47:00] | jasoncohen: | when was it released? |
| [06:48:00] | jasoncohen: | 2005 only came out a few days ago |
| [06:48:00] | jasoncohen: | i didn't know there were updates already |
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| [06:48:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, wrong forum, sorry |
| [06:48:00] | jasoncohen: | *channel |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: install mdk 2005 yet? |
| [06:48:00] | jasoncohen: | i thought i was in mandrake. 2005 LE came out a few days ago with 2.6.11.6 |
| [06:48:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: yup, the day after it was released |
| [06:49:00] | jasoncohen: | i like it |
| [06:49:00] | tuxristo: | hey mchou, i was just reading the irc log (thanks beirdo for that btw) |
| [06:49:00] | Beirdo: | no prob. |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: yeah, less buggy than 10.1, which I was using :) |
| [06:49:00] | tuxristo: | jasoncohen: does 2005 still have that butt ugly smiling penguin wallpaper |
| [06:49:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: i've been fighting with OO line spacing for a day and then realized i didn't install my MS TTF fonts. I installed it and my f'd up line spacing was fixed magically |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: it's a dead penguin this time, even worse :) |
| [06:50:00] | jasoncohen: | tuxristo: yes sir |
| [06:50:00] | tuxristo: | oh no |
| [06:50:00] | jasoncohen: | you can get rid of it though in kde control center |
| [06:50:00] | tuxristo: | i know |
| [06:50:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: what was buggy in 10.1 for you? |
| [06:50:00] | galen: | hey, i'm trying to figure out plans for a mythtv box, anybody know where to get "universal audio jack" adapter or whatever is needed to get real surround output out of a gigabyte motherboard? |
| [06:50:00] | fatmatt: | ahh, I'm using source from kernel.org |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: usb. |
| [06:51:00] | jasoncohen: | what about it? |
| [06:51:00] | jasoncohen: | my usb printer, mouse and usb key worked fine |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | usb was big headache. Scanner especially. |
| [06:51:00] | jasoncohen: | i like how it automounts the usb key and adds a desktop icon |
| [06:52:00] | jasoncohen: | in 2005 it actually shows as mounted unlike in 10.1 |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | yeah, taht too. |
| [06:52:00] | jasoncohen: | in order to unmount i had to pretend to mount and then unmount |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | 2005 might be a keeper :) |
| [06:52:00] | jasoncohen: | now it works as it is supposed to but that was KDE because it worked in gnome |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | 10.1 was just a disaster. |
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| [06:52:00] | tuxristo: | 10.1 wasn't bad, 10.2 was looking good until they turned into 2005, network printing in cups is a big pita right now though |
| [06:52:00] | jasoncohen: | really? |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | it is? |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | works fine for me |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: huh?? worked outta box for me. |
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| [06:53:00] | mchou: | even detected my printer automagically :) |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | you just add the IP of the remote CUPs server and voila remote printers added automatically |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | what's so tough about that? |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | i think i know what his problem is |
| [06:53:00] | rpete: | had some trouble with usb devices in mdk 10.1, otherwise okay |
| [06:53:00] | tuxristo: | i have 4 machines here, and only one prints quite right, all was god in 10.1 and below |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | you no longer "add" the printer |
| [06:54:00] | jasoncohen: | you add the remote cups server |
| [06:54:00] | tuxristo: | god -> good |
| [06:54:00] | jasoncohen: | what model printer? |
| [06:54:00] | tuxristo: | well it's raw postscrip to port 9100 – lexmark t622 |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | Samsung ML1710 |
| [06:54:00] | tuxristo: | should be a piece of cake |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | oh, sorry :) |
| [06:54:00] | jasoncohen: | let me guess |
| [06:55:00] | jasoncohen: | the ml 1710 works and the others don't |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [06:55:00] | jasoncohen: | i have a ml 1710 and an epson 880 |
| [06:55:00] | tuxristo: | i just work around it by printing to file and netcat-ing it right to the printer :) |
| [06:55:00] | jasoncohen: | linux even has a program to do a head cleaning on the epson |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | sigh, what a kludge. |
| [06:56:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: should i install .18? |
| [06:56:00] | jasoncohen: | .17 has been working great |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | maybe. |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | had a funky poblem with commercial detection, but seems to work ok so far. |
| [06:56:00] | jasoncohen: | the only problem i have is that it hangs at the end of a show for a few seconds or longer and then goes back to the recorded programs screen |
| [06:56:00] | tuxristo: | oh, and b4 2005 you could change firefox to use netcat as the printer – now it insists on going to kprinter |
| [06:57:00] | tuxristo: | jasoncohen i had that, that was fixed shortly after 17 |
| [06:57:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, so i should get .18 |
| [06:57:00] | tuxristo: | yup |
| [06:57:00] | mchou: | kprinter is da bomb! better than sliced bread :) |
| [06:57:00] | jasoncohen: | so, how do you install the plugins now? it's all one package, right? |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | I love those multipage filters! |
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| [06:58:00] | tuxristo: | except that i can't print with it no matter what i do; the kprinter option to use a command liek netcat doesn't even work |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: btw, the dead penguin has stars for pupils :) |
| [06:59:00] | tuxristo: | so mchou- you on 18 ? |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | that's my only complaint so far re 2005 :) |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: yeah |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | give 2005 a few more weeks I'm sure I'll discover warts :) |
| [07:00:00] | tuxristo: | what do you use for comm detection "all" i presume, but do you have strict detection enabled or disabled? |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | yeah, I use all, no strict though. |
| [07:00:00] | tuxristo: | ok |
| [07:01:00] | tuxristo: | i submitted a patch a while back to make it so that strict mode is a little different in .18 with the all method |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | ooh, that reminds me, I should see if usb now works with motorola surfboard 5100....... |
| [07:02:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: are you a standard or silver club member? |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | used to crap out all the time |
| [07:02:00] | jasoncohen: | i don't get the point of the powerpack |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | I'm not a member at all :) |
| [07:02:00] | jasoncohen: | you get all the same packages online with FTP sources and the same proprietary stuff in CD4 |
| [07:02:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: so you installed off the net? |
| [07:02:00] | tuxristo: | mchou: basically, it works better for me for darker shows |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: yup :) |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: hmm, good to know. |
| [07:03:00] | jasoncohen: | i like have the supplemental cd. it installed the nvidia drivers, acroread, realplayer, java runtime environment and had it all setup for me on boot |
| [07:03:00] | jasoncohen: | *having |
| [07:03:00] | jasoncohen: | acrobat 7 is great |
| [07:04:00] | jasoncohen: | it fixes all the crap font problems in kpdf & Kghostview |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | lol, that resource sucker? |
| [07:04:00] | jasoncohen: | you're kidding? |
| [07:04:00] | jasoncohen: | it starts up in 1 second |
| [07:04:00] | jasoncohen: | OO is a resource sucker but i like it |
| [07:04:00] | tuxristo: | you guys use plf or thac's rpms at all? |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | no, I'm not kidding. Look up "free" b4 and after. |
| [07:04:00] | jasoncohen: | i use plf |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | I use plf. |
| [07:05:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: oh well, it's the best pdf viewer by far |
| [07:05:00] | jasoncohen: | though i use kghostview preview in konqueror sometimes |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | I've used 1 or 2 thac rpms :) |
| [07:05:00] | jasoncohen: | but kghostview messes up fonts on many pdfs making them unreadabal |
| [07:05:00] | jasoncohen: | tuxristo: don't use thacs |
| [07:05:00] | jasoncohen: | *unreadable |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: that's cause you dont have the fonts installed. They print just fine :) |
| [07:06:00] | tuxristo: | ya i added thac's to urpmi once to get mythrpms |
| [07:06:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: what fonts do i need? |
| [07:06:00] | jasoncohen: | but they look fine in acrobat? |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | that's cause they are incuded and compiled int acrobat. |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | into* |
| [07:07:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: i just installed ms ttf's and it still looks like crap |
| [07:07:00] | tuxristo: | then two weeks later i did a "urpm --auto --auto-select" and totally hsed the system :( – so i don't recommend thacs either |
| [07:07:00] | jasoncohen: | i'll send you the pdf if you want to see for yourself |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | lol, never do --auto |
| [07:07:00] | jasoncohen: | #mandriva ops says thacs rpms can trash a system |
| [07:07:00] | tuxristo: | forgot to remove thacs from the list |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | surce recipe for hosing. |
| [07:07:00] | jasoncohen: | you learned the hardway |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | thacs or no thacs. |
| [07:07:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: --auto is fine if you use main, contrib, updates |
| [07:07:00] | jasoncohen: | and norlug is good too |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | #mandriva ops dont know shit. |
| [07:08:00] | jasoncohen: | plf has some crap rpms like libfreetype6 which you should add to your skip.list |
| [07:08:00] | jasoncohen: | a few are good |
| [07:08:00] | tuxristo: | what's wrong withtheir freetype? |
| [07:08:00] | jasoncohen: | YankDownUnder helped me figure out my OO problem when the OO people couldn't |
| [07:08:00] | jasoncohen: | tuxristo: it sucks...it will totally screw you your fonts |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | lol. plf freetype is better, dude. |
| [07:08:00] | rpete: | been using thacs rpms for years, no problems |
| [07:08:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, if you're high |
| [07:09:00] | jasoncohen: | the fonts aren't even straight |
| [07:09:00] | jasoncohen: | they look itallic |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | no, you just dont understand how it works. |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | pixel subhinting is where it's at. |
| [07:09:00] | tuxristo: | rpete, it totally hosed all kde apps for me – the one time i tried it – had to revert everything back out |
| [07:09:00] | jasoncohen: | then why did my fonts look like crap after installing it |
| [07:09:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: and you can't do that with the mdk ones? |
| [07:09:00] | rpete: | tuxristo, did you figure out why? |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: nope, not compiled in. |
| [07:10:00] | tuxristo: | rpete, nope -but everything was fine after the mandrake and plf rpms went back in |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: upgrading kde is just foolish, especially if you dont know what thge packager ddid. |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | the* |
| [07:11:00] | tuxristo: | rpete- the menus were missing, etc |
| [07:11:00] | tuxristo: | mchou – it was an accidental upgrade :) |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | hehe, --auto, told ya :) |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: can you check and see if this pdf looks ok for you? |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | it's small ..about 250 K |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | gimme link. |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | ok |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | wait, i can't. it's from JSTOR |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | you would need access to university resources and you can't without logging in |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | i can DCC you the pdf |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | too bad :) |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | nah, not interested. |
| [07:12:00] | jasoncohen: | ok |
| [07:13:00] | jasoncohen: | hmm, i'll find a public one |
| [07:13:00] | mchou: | trust me, it might look bad on screen, but print out one page and you'll see it's fine. |
| [07:14:00] | jasoncohen: | what fonts do i need/ |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | that's an artifact due to screen scaling. |
| [07:14:00] | jasoncohen: | they look REALLY bad |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | like as in startx --dpi. |
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| [07:18:00] | tuxristo: | about the fonts, i am using stock libfreetype on 10.2 beta here and the fonts in its oo.org 1.1.4 look really good – a lot better than in 1.1.3 |
| [07:18:00] | tuxristo: | whi, i think was 10.1 |
| [07:18:00] | tuxristo: | whi -> which |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | yeah, same here. |
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| [07:19:00] | mchou: | 10.1 was just a mistake :) |
| [07:19:00] | jasoncohen: | tuxristo: did you install any new fonts? |
| [07:19:00] | jasoncohen: | the fonts look great for me too |
| [07:19:00] | jasoncohen: | but when i had single line spacing it was actually 1.5x |
| [07:19:00] | jasoncohen: | once i installed msonfts it worked fine |
| [07:19:00] | tuxristo: | i just don't like the gnome icons in oo.org :( |
| [07:19:00] | jasoncohen: | it seems to be a problem with the fonts |
| [07:19:00] | jasoncohen: | did you notice that the icons in OO 1.1.4 are MDK's..not OO |
| [07:20:00] | jasoncohen: | the official OO icons are ugly, as are the ones in 2.0 beta |
| [07:20:00] | tuxristo: | hmm, i have never had good luck witht the ms fonts – so i just steer clear now - |
| [07:20:00] | jasoncohen: | tuxristo: you said 2.6.11–7 was out for mdk? |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | ms fonts are the bomb :) |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | only good thing MS did :) |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:21:00] | jasoncohen: | i like them |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | actually, apple did. |
| [07:21:00] | tuxristo: | nope i am still on 2.6.8.1–12 on all my boxes |
| [07:21:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: did you install the msfonts package? |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | Truetype. |
| [07:22:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: nope. copied them over from my windows install. |
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| [07:22:00] | tuxristo: | i mean 2.6.11 might be outfor mdk but i am sticking with 2.6.8 |
| [07:22:00] | jasoncohen: | why? |
| [07:22:00] | jasoncohen: | 2.6.8.-12 has security issues |
| [07:22:00] | jasoncohen: | get 2.6.8–24 |
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| [07:23:00] | tuxristo: | jasoncohen, k |
| [07:24:00] | tuxristo: | jasoncohen, i did notice the mdk icons but they look gnomeish to me, i wonder if there is an easy way to swap in a more kde-ish crystal-svg ish icon theme |
| [07:25:00] | jasoncohen: | true, but the OO style is gnomeish |
| [07:25:00] | jasoncohen: | what do you think of 2.0 beta? |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | bah, who uses gnome with mdk anyways :) |
| [07:25:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, those who don't care about looks |
| [07:25:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, i got my GF to use mdk |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | exactly. Butt ugly. |
| [07:25:00] | jasoncohen: | after i had to reinstall XP for the 3RD damn time |
| [07:26:00] | jasoncohen: | this time she clicked on a virus in a AIM profile |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | next time make her install it :) |
| [07:26:00] | tuxristo: | well i am a big fan of icewm so i don't rellay use either, kde ofr gnome but i prefer the look and feel of kde |
| [07:26:00] | jasoncohen: | she actually likes KDE |
| [07:26:00] | defaultro: | mchou, do you use mythweb? |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | defaultro: nope, sorry. |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | it's ok |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | it's just so cool |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | i can see thumbnails |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | however, i cannot play it |
| [07:27:00] | jasoncohen: | i told her how to set a background slide show so now she has 30 NASA images in her slideshow and the background changes to a new random one every 60 seconds |
| [07:27:00] | jasoncohen: | pretty cool |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: you didnt give her the acqua interface? |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [07:28:00] | jasoncohen: | how do i install just some plugins? |
| [07:28:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: nah, she's using plastik with transparent menus |
| [07:28:00] | jasoncohen: | she's not a mac person |
| [07:28:00] | tuxristo: | am i the only one that thinks that windows is actually harder to install than linux – imean hit f6 for this f8 for that, bend over backwards to make floppies for raid drivers, manually install the damn network driver from the motherboard cd, same goes for videocard and sound. i just had to do one a week ago |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | linux that looks like a mac :) |
| [07:28:00] | defaultro: | tux, only need if it uses custom drivers |
| [07:29:00] | defaultro: | no need if it's detected |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: your hw is too fancy 4 windows :) |
| [07:29:00] | jasoncohen: | tuxristo: and then install a million apps before you have everything up and running |
| [07:29:00] | jasoncohen: | mac has better gui integration though |
| [07:29:00] | jasoncohen: | too bad you can't force gnome apps to use aqua |
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| [07:31:00] | mchou: | I think gnome looks fugly. |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | absolutely hoorid. |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | horrid* |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | on mdk at least. |
| [07:32:00] | rpete: | just goes to show there's no accounting for taste |
| [07:32:00] | tuxristo: | right actually this was for a friend, but yeah, firefox, mcaffe, xp-sp2, office2000, o2k-sr1, o2ksp3, run windows update 2–3 more times, spybot, adaware, update all the definition files, schedule automatic updates, defrag and virus scans, create administrative passwords, enable local auto login, remove access to outlook and msie, the list goes on and on... |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | shit, just antivirus is enough of a disincentive :) |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | never mind all the "other" crap. |
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| [07:34:00] | mchou: | lets not forget the XP "registration" process and EULA :) |
| [07:35:00] | tuxristo: | i meant to ask, do you use mplayerplug-in or mozplugger or what? |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | kaffeine ,man :) |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | better than mplayerplugin. |
| [07:36:00] | tuxristo: | i find that mlayerplugin is extrmely touchy – and freaking freezes firefox unless you let every file play right to the end |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | exactly. buggy POS. |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | kaffeine works great, even trailers from apple. |
| [07:36:00] | tuxristo: | freezes so bad that i have to manually remove the lock file in .mozilla/firefox/..../ |
| [07:37:00] | tuxristo: | so kaffeine also embeds into firefox? |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [07:37:00] | tuxristo: | :)) |
| [07:37:00] | tuxristo: | no crashes? |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | non in 10.1 :) |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | and none so far in 2005. |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | but havent tried much on 2005. |
| [07:38:00] | tuxristo: | :)))) – hmm how come i never heard of it |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | causse you use gnome? :) |
| [07:38:00] | tuxristo: | no – icewm |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | fugly..... |
| [07:38:00] | tuxristo: | here comes... |
| [07:39:00] | tuxristo: | so light and fast though |
| [07:39:00] | mchou: | no, I was referring to gnome, not icewm |
| [07:39:00] | mchou: | you wanna fast and nice, try blackbox :) |
| [07:40:00] | tuxristo: | and the icewm wm options are nice – like alt+f7 to move a window – alt+f11 to make any window full screen , etc |
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| [07:40:00] | tuxristo: | ya itried them all pretty much -and keep coming back to ice |
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| [07:40:00] | jason_: | huh, did anyone send any messages to me? |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | and ctrl-alt-backspace to go to the console (snicker) |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | tuxristo: you didnt care for XFCE? |
| [07:41:00] | jason_: | i thought i was connected but i forgot that i started my VPN |
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| [07:41:00] | jason_: | i asked earlier about how one would choose to only install some plugins. Is it a command line option? |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | ./configure --help |
| [07:41:00] | Beirdo: | you disable the ones you don't want |
| [07:41:00] | jason_: | thanks |
| [07:41:00] | jason_: | compiling mythtv 0.18 now |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | fucking read the docs man, for once |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | sheesh.\ |
| [07:42:00] | Beirdo: | I wish they had made the default to be disabled, but then everyone else would bitch :) |
| [07:42:00] | jason_: | heh, i read the online docs |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | even isaac says read docs on homepage. |
| [07:42:00] | jason_: | which aren't updated i gues |
| [07:42:00] | jason_: | *guess |
| [07:43:00] | tuxristo: | mchou, hmm i must have tried it along time ago because i just looked at its screenshots and i didn't recognize it |
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| [07:51:00] | jason_: | tuxristo: do you like the default OO icons? they look terribly small & unprofessional to me. |
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| [07:57:00] | tuxristo: | jason, nope thay are godawful, kde crystal icons would be best i think, since i already use them in firefox and in kde apps |
| [08:00:00] | tuxristo: | oh and i tried a beta of 2.0 a while back, admittedly on awindows box, but didn't see any improvement, am i blind? |
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| [08:15:00] | jason_: | i'm getting errors while compiling the music plugin. I have all the deps installed. any ideas? |
| [08:15:00] | jason_: | http://pastebin.com/272306 |
| [08:17:00] | jason_: | tuxristo: there are a few new features i'll never use. other than that the interface is new but worse |
| [08:17:00] | jason_: | tuxristo: what theme do you use for firefox? i use plastik |
| [08:18:00] | rpete: | looks like a mysql api version mismatch, can't say much else |
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| [08:28:00] | jason_: | rpete: what would that mean..that i have mysql libs of conflicting versions? |
| [08:28:00] | rpete: | no, just that the one installed doesn't match the one mythmusic expects |
| [08:33:00] | jason_: | hmm, do you know what version mythmusic expects? |
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| [08:34:00] | tuxristo: | jason_ plastk here too |
| [08:34:00] | rpete: | I cannot say much else |
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| [08:35:00] | tuxristo: | basically plastik is waht i want for oo.org, i think i have even seen a project hthat did that, but i won't go out of my way to try it |
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| [08:48:00] | jason_: | libmysql12–4.0.20–3.3.101mdk |
| [08:48:00] | jason_: | thats' the version i'm using. is it too new or old? |
| [08:52:00] | rtsai2: | does anyone here use mythtranscode? |
| [09:02:00] | jason_: | i don't understand how mythtv was able to successfully compile but not the plugins |
| [09:02:00] | jason_: | if mysql is the issue |
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| [09:21:00] | xris: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ |
| [09:21:00] | xris: | there. semi-officially announced |
| [09:24:00] | jason_: | anyone else having problems compiling the plugins in mdk? |
| [09:24:00] | jason_: | or in general |
| [09:27:00] | tuxristo: | haven't compiled the plugins in months :( |
| [09:27:00] | tuxristo: | no trouble, just haven't bothered |
| [09:29:00] | jason_: | did you install .18? |
| [09:32:00] | rtsai2: | no trouble building recent cvs plugins |
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| [09:36:00] | xris: | MajestiK: you awake? (I hope not, given what time it is) |
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| [09:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [09:37:00] | Beirdo: | I still am :) |
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| [09:37:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you should sleep. heh. |
| [09:37:00] | xris: | but nuvexport is actually getting a wiki now. |
| [09:37:00] | Beirdo: | dunno what the hell is my problem :) |
| [09:37:00] | Beirdo: | coool |
| [09:38:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: didn't you compile mythtv in 2005? |
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| [09:43:00] | ** xris likes trac ** | |
| [09:44:00] | ** xris dances the happy trac+svn dance. ** | |
| [09:45:00] | tuxristo: | jason_ ya i installed .18 – just working on my menu reorganization idea |
| [09:45:00] | xris: | gonna really need to change the css for trac, though. |
| [09:45:00] | rtsai2: | any people using mythtranscode here? |
| [09:47:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [09:47:00] | xris: | rtsai2: it's not intended for users to use |
| [09:47:00] | rtsai2: | ? |
| [09:47:00] | xris: | run --help |
| [09:47:00] | Beirdo: | the color scheme is rather icky, isn't it, xris |
| [09:47:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yes. |
| [09:48:00] | rtsai2: | right, users don't run mythtranscode from the cmdline, but it gets run via jobqueue |
| [09:48:00] | xris: | rtsai2: mythtranscode is used internally by myth to convert between its own internal formats, and to remove commercials. |
| [09:48:00] | rtsai2: | right |
| [09:48:00] | rtsai2: | i'm working in adding transcoding profiles. |
| [09:48:00] | xris: | you should never need to run it by hand. |
| [09:48:00] | rtsai2: | With HDTV you only get a single "From MPEG2" profile |
| [09:48:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [09:48:00] | rtsai2: | I'd like to have a choice of settings for my HDTV. |
| [09:49:00] | xris: | if you're developing, you might want to try #mythtv |
| [09:49:00] | rtsai2: | for feature parity with analog users and their "recording profile" |
| [09:49:00] | rtsai2: | #mythtv kind of silent |
| [09:49:00] | xris: | that's because most of the devs are asleep |
| [09:49:00] | rtsai2: | i'm actually looking for use case feedback |
| [09:49:00] | rtsai2: | ha |
| [09:49:00] | rtsai2: | just giving it a shot |
| [09:50:00] | rtsai2: | l8r |
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| [09:57:00] | squigle: | hey any one else having a problem with cvs? |
| [10:02:00] | xris: | squigle: post .18 is designated as highly unstable |
| [10:02:00] | xris: | well, dunno if Isaac has started that work or not, though. |
| [10:02:00] | squigle: | no i mean, cvs is broken |
| [10:03:00] | xris: | squigle: cvs as in the program cvs? |
| [10:03:00] | squigle: | cvs -z3 -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org :/var/lib/mythcvs checkout mythvideo |
| [10:03:00] | squigle: | cvs server: cannot find module `mythvideo' – ignored |
| [10:03:00] | squigle: | cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules |
| [10:03:00] | xris: | or the server? |
| [10:03:00] | xris: | squigle: check the cvs commit logs |
| [10:03:00] | xris: | isaac moved all of the packages |
| [10:03:00] | squigle: | aah thanks |
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| [10:14:00] | Filip^: | Does anyone kow how mythgame determines what snes games to put in its list? |
| [10:14:00] | Filip^: | Some games aren't turning up, and I can't seem ti figure out the difference with those that do |
| [10:14:00] | Filip^: | Al have the same group ownsership, the same permissions, they're zipped, the case of the extensions are the same. |
| [10:15:00] | Filip^: | zsnes also just plays the games if instructed from the command line |
| [10:16:00] | Filip^: | | |
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| [10:17:00] | Filip^: | And another question: is there something like "MythLaunch", an extension that just starts stuff and gives the output Myth? |
| [10:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope, but to just execute apps you can edit the theme xml and just add an entry for the app. Then that button when chosen will run the app |
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| [10:18:00] | Filip^: | That's a nice tip, I'll try that. I could start epsxe from myth, right? |
| [10:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea what that is so I can only guess :) |
| [10:20:00] | Filip^: | sorry, it's a playstation 1 emulator |
| [10:21:00] | Filip^: | http://www.epsxe.com/news.php |
| [10:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wll, you can make a themse execute any app, so yes. As fo rintegration to mythgame, no ia |
| [10:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | damn, lots of packetloss on this wireless network here |
| [10:24:00] | Filip^: | I'll check out the xml structure. I suppose I can make an additional entry in Media or something. It opens up some new possibilities for my myth. Gotto ponder them now... |
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| [12:29:00] | Mortal1: | hi , i have pvr-350 using ivtv-0.2.0-rc3i i get this error in my logs |
| [12:30:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:25:58.888 Unknown video codec |
| [12:30:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:25:58.888 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and |
| [12:30:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:25:58.888 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles. |
| [12:30:00] | Mortal1: | help? |
| [12:30:00] | laga: | i *guess* that you made a mistake in the setup |
| [12:30:00] | laga: | make sure you entered your card as mpeg encoder card |
| [12:30:00] | laga: | not as v4l card |
| [12:31:00] | Mortal1: | laga, i have made sure of that already , thanks |
| [12:38:00] | Mortal1: | laga, how do i choose which profile i want to use? |
| [12:40:00] | laga: | you normally use the hardware encoder profile. default for recordings, livetv for livetv. you can, of course, change the profile that mythtv uses for recordings. |
| [12:40:00] | laga: | <- away. |
| [12:41:00] | Mortal1: | laga, im having trouble working out how to specify the profile that i want |
| [12:43:00] | stoffel: | live-tv uses live-tv, recordings use default unless otherwise specified, and the profile groups depends on which tuner-card is being used |
| [12:45:00] | Mortal1: | ok , heres another error im getting |
| [12:45:00] | Mortal1: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/tmp/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [12:45:00] | Mortal1: | any thoughts? |
| [12:46:00] | stoffel: | check the backend logfile for errors |
| [12:46:00] | Mortal1: | Channel()::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such file or directory" |
| [12:46:00] | stoffel: | your pv350 isn't working properly yet |
| [12:47:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, i can run mplayer /dev/v4l/video0 and it works |
| [12:48:00] | stoffel: | and you told mythtv to use a mpeg-2 hw encoder card on /dev/v4l/video0? |
| [12:49:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, yeah |
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| [12:49:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, definately , ivce checked many times now |
| [12:49:00] | stoffel: | is 'cat /dev/v4l/video0 > /tmp/blah.mpg' resulting in a file playable by mplayer? |
| [12:50:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, yeah , that works too |
| [12:50:00] | berk: | hi all... does anybody know why I get this error: |
| [12:50:00] | berk: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [12:50:00] | berk: | . |
| [12:50:00] | stoffel: | Mortal1: then mythtv isn't set up correctly i'd say |
| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, this is the other error |
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| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.283 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.293 Unknown video codec |
| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.294 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and |
| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.294 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles. |
| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.294 Assuming RTjpeg for now. |
| [12:51:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.294 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec |
| [12:52:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.294 NVR: Error, cannot open DSP '' |
| [12:52:00] | Mortal1: | open: No such file or directory |
| [12:52:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.295 NVR: Could not detect audio blocksize |
| [12:52:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.295 Channel()::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such file or directory" |
| [12:52:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 11:45:14.295 Tuning Error — aborting recording |
| [12:52:00] | stoffel: | etup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles? looks like you configured a bttv card in setup, it's trying to use s/w encoding to rtjpeg/mp4 |
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| [12:53:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, i havent seen bttv at all |
| [12:53:00] | stoffel: | check the card setup in mythtv-setup |
| [12:53:00] | ikaro: | mojn |
| [12:54:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, pvr-250,350 |
| [12:54:00] | stoffel: | Mortal1: when you enter menu 2 'tuners', does it say 'MPEG: /dev/v4l/video0'? |
| [12:55:00] | berk: | can somebody help me? |
| [12:55:00] | berk: | I cannot start mythbackend |
| [12:56:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, i dont recall seeing 'tuners' , is this under mythsetup? |
| [12:56:00] | stoffel: | Mortal1: yes, could be called differently, i'm using german translations |
| [12:56:00] | stoffel: | but it's menu 2 ;) |
| [12:56:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, oh yes , mine says capture cards MPEG: /dev/v4l/video0' |
| [12:57:00] | stoffel: | hmmm, dunno then |
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| [12:57:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, how can i remove all mythtv setups and start from scratch? |
| [12:57:00] | stoffel: | the pvr350 is the only tuner card in use? |
| [12:58:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, yeah , i only have one |
| [12:58:00] | stoffel: | start mythtv-setup and read what it asks you ;) |
| [12:59:00] | Mortal1: | stoffel, i tried that method , and it doesnt seem to get rid of everything |
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| [13:45:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... i'm just trying to get mythtv setup here, and I've got it separated into a backend and frontend. I'm having problems getting the frontend to connect to the backend... I can't find where I tell the frontend to connect to the server!? There's options for connecting to the database, but where's the options for backend? Am I on crack? |
| [13:47:00] | Agrajag-: | eh? you need a mysql.txt (i think it's called, it's in the docs) for the frontend to connect to the db |
| [13:49:00] | squigle: | um you get a dialog in the newer versions |
| [13:49:00] | flithm: | it can connect to the db fine, but I want the backend has like the tuner card and everything in it. I can get a frontend to run on the actual backend machine fine (watch tv okay etc), but I can't figure out how to do anything with the frontend on the actual fontend machine (except connect to the mysql server) |
| [13:49:00] | squigle: | um what distro? |
| [13:50:00] | flithm: | gentoo |
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| [13:50:00] | squigle: | aah |
| [13:50:00] | flithm: | why does distro matter? |
| [13:50:00] | squigle: | your distro doesnt let the db talk to the network by default |
| [13:50:00] | flithm: | yes it does |
| [13:51:00] | squigle: | ok your right then, but if you change the bind setting to be commented out or your ip address you will find it acutaly works |
| [13:51:00] | flithm: | actually the database is on the frontend machine, I have the backend configured to connect to the mysql server on the frontend (which seems to work). and I do have the bind address commented out. do I NEED to run mysql on the backend? |
| [13:52:00] | squigle: | so on your fron end you cant talk to the database on the local machine? |
| [13:52:00] | Agrajag-: | you can have mysql anywhere |
| [13:52:00] | flithm: | no no... it can talk to the database just fine. But I can't get it to connect to the backend. I don't know where to input this information! |
| [13:53:00] | squigle: | thats in setup |
| [13:53:00] | squigle: | first option |
| [13:53:00] | Mortal1: | help? i cant fix this problem |
| [13:53:00] | squigle: | mythsetup if you are using a build most probably |
| [13:53:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 12:41:36.079 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and |
| [13:53:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 12:41:36.079 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles. |
| [13:53:00] | Mortal1: | 2005-04–17 12:41:36.079 Assuming RTjpeg for now. |
| [13:53:00] | flithm: | when i run mythfrontend on the frontend machine it asks me for database server location etc... when I run mythfrontend the first option is for the database server? or am I crazy? |
| [13:53:00] | squigle: | yes its for the databased |
| [13:54:00] | squigle: | the database has where your backends are |
| [13:54:00] | squigle: | on the backend |
| [13:54:00] | squigle: | run the setup program |
| [13:54:00] | flithm: | oh I see |
| [13:54:00] | squigle: | where u setup your cards |
| [13:54:00] | squigle: | Mortall it says what to do |
| [13:54:00] | Agrajag-: | you odnt run setup for the frontend machine |
| [13:54:00] | Agrajag-: | just have the mysql.txt like i said 10 minutes ago |
| [13:55:00] | Mortal1: | squigle, i have run mythsetup |
| [13:55:00] | Agrajag-: | (you do have to have the right ip in the backend setup though) |
| [13:55:00] | Mortal1: | Agrajag-, dont run setup on the frontend maching? i only have 1 comp |
| [13:56:00] | flithm: | hmmm... i ran mythsetup on the backend and set the ip to its externally available ip address (ie not 127.0.0.1) this is the correct way right? |
| [13:56:00] | Agrajag-: | Mortal1 not talking to you :) |
| [13:56:00] | squigle: | yes flithm |
| [13:56:00] | Agrajag-: | flithm: now just make sure your ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt is set up right |
| [13:56:00] | Agrajag-: | and it'll work.. |
| [13:56:00] | squigle: | Agrajag-, what are you talking about? |
| [13:57:00] | squigle: | flithm ignore him you are on the right track |
| [13:57:00] | Agrajag-: | well he's trying to get his frontend to connect to his backend right? |
| [13:57:00] | flithm: | heheh |
| [13:57:00] | squigle: | Agrajag-, you are making the same mistake i did, |
| [13:58:00] | flithm: | Agrajag-: I've got that file and it points to the right place, with the right password info and so forth! |
| [13:58:00] | squigle: | Mortal1, no for you it says in the instuction |
| [13:58:00] | squigle: | flithm, yes db is fine, just do what u just did |
| [13:59:00] | Mortal1: | squigle, i read the instrucxtion and i believe i set it up right , i have pvr-350 |
| [13:59:00] | squigle: | oh, seems some thing is doing software encoding, is that the only card you have ? I dont have a pvr-350 |
| [13:59:00] | squigle: | im using digital |
| [14:00:00] | flithm: | squigle: I get this in the frontend: could not connect to master backend server — is it running? is the ip address corrent? |
| [14:00:00] | Mortal1: | squigle, i have a hollywood plus |
| [14:00:00] | squigle: | does it have a port number in the setup |
| [14:00:00] | Mortal1: | squigle, no , not that i know of |
| [14:00:00] | squigle: | does it have a port number in the setup (flithm) |
| [14:01:00] | flithm: | heh |
| [14:01:00] | flithm: | squigle: yeah |
| [14:01:00] | squigle: | Mortal1, I cant help u |
| [14:01:00] | squigle: | what is it |
| [14:01:00] | flithm: | squigle: i didn't change it, left at deafult |
| [14:01:00] | squigle: | wanta test soem thing here before i suggest it to you |
| [14:01:00] | flithm: | squigle: server: 6543, status 6544, master 6543 |
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| [14:02:00] | squigle: | can you telnet <your ip> <port> |
| [14:02:00] | squigle: | am assuming u have restarted the backend |
| [14:03:00] | flithm: | squigle: no I can't! what's going on here? |
| [14:04:00] | squigle: | firewall? |
| [14:04:00] | Agrajag-: | flithm: first.. are you sure the db connection is happening? you should be able to see that in the output |
| [14:04:00] | flithm: | squigle: the process is definitely running though... and no firewall, I can connect to the server machine on other ports |
| [14:04:00] | squigle: | mysqladmin |
| [14:04:00] | squigle: | will show u an active connection too |
| [14:05:00] | squigle: | u restarted the backend after changing the ip? |
| [14:06:00] | flithm: | yes just did that. hmm... something is definitely odd. I can telnet to port 6543 with localhost (on backend), but not from frontend machine. why would that be!? |
| [14:06:00] | squigle: | hosts.allow |
| [14:06:00] | Agrajag-: | are you sure these computers are actually networked? :P |
| [14:06:00] | squigle: | or firewall |
| [14:07:00] | flithm: | Agrajag-: hahah yes :) |
| [14:07:00] | flithm: | there's no firewall, no hosts.deny or any of that... and I've never had a problem connecting from one machine to the other. I ssh into each machine from the other all the time, etc. |
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| [14:09:00] | squigle: | where did u run setup from? |
| [14:09:00] | squigle: | um does telnet 127.0.0.1 <port> work |
| [14:09:00] | ikaro: | im not seeing any programs in the program guide, any clues to what might be causing the problem? |
| [14:09:00] | Agrajag-: | flithm: if you have mysql on the client, try doing "select * from settings where value = 'BackendServerIP';" and make sure that's right |
| [14:09:00] | Agrajag-: | ikaro: you're not runnign mythfilldatabase? |
| [14:10:00] | ikaro: | agrajag-, yes i already ran it several times |
| [14:10:00] | flithm: | if I do telnet 127.0.0.1 6543 from the backend that works fine. I ran mythsetup from backend machine |
| [14:10:00] | flithm: | Agrajag-: trying that |
| [14:10:00] | Agrajag-: | ikaro: well is your tv_grab script setup properly? |
| [14:11:00] | ikaro: | agrajag-, yeh |
| [14:11:00] | ikaro: | theres no setup do be done. |
| [14:11:00] | Agrajag-: | well what does mythfilldatabase tell you? does it actaully get any data? |
| [14:11:00] | ikaro: | yep its running the grabber and fetching info |
| [14:12:00] | Agrajag-: | well there is setup to be done with 'normal' tv_grab_xx scripts |
| [14:12:00] | Agrajag-: | with tv_grab_xx --configure |
| [14:12:00] | squigle: | ikaro, pipe the data into a file and then use mythfill database to read it in manualy |
| [14:13:00] | ikaro: | you run it with --configure and choose the channels .. how hard is that |
| [14:14:00] | squigle: | tv_grab_XX > /tmp/tv_grad ; mythfilldatabase 1 -1 /tmp/tv_grad |
| [14:14:00] | Agrajag-: | well genius, some scripts require more info that just channels, and obviously yours isn't working so you've done something wrong |
| [14:14:00] | flithm: | Agrajag-: I get two values: they both point to the right ip address but there are different "hostname" values... one has the hostname of the backend, one has the hostname of the frontend... seems like this miight not be right? |
| [14:14:00] | Agrajag-: | eyah that's right |
| [14:14:00] | ikaro: | hehe |
| [14:15:00] | Agrajag-: | ok i dunno, nmap the port from both the backend/frontend and see what's up. it's gotta be firewalled or something |
| [14:15:00] | squigle: | does telnet <ipaddress> <port> work from the server |
| [14:15:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah he already said that did work |
| [14:15:00] | squigle: | where ipaddress is the actual ip not localhost |
| [14:15:00] | squigle: | or 127.0.0.1 |
| [14:16:00] | squigle: | sorry just want to rule out u using the loop back |
| [14:16:00] | squigle: | iptable -L |
| [14:16:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah that too |
| [14:16:00] | squigle: | ipchains -L |
| [14:17:00] | Agrajag-: | anyway gotta go to bed |
| [14:17:00] | Agrajag-: | have fun :) |
| [14:17:00] | flithm: | thanks Agrajag- |
| [14:17:00] | flithm: | squigle: checking out now |
| [14:18:00] | squigle: | killall -9 mythbackend ; mythbackend |
| [14:20:00] | flithm: | squigle: doh! I entered the wrong backend ip, i think this should fix things :o) |
| [14:20:00] | ** flithm feels stupid ** | |
| [14:20:00] | ** squigle slaps flithm ** | |
| [14:20:00] | flithm: | sorry for putting you through that... but thanks your efforts helped for sure |
| [14:21:00] | squigle: | sok |
| [14:21:00] | flithm: | hey what tuner card do you use? |
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| [14:26:00] | squigle: | i have a dvb cArd |
| [14:27:00] | flithm: | oh nice |
| [14:27:00] | squigle: | two of them |
| [14:27:00] | squigle: | are u in US? |
| [14:28:00] | flithm: | no canada, you? |
| [14:28:00] | squigle: | AU |
| [14:28:00] | flithm: | cool. that's much better than US :) |
| [14:28:00] | squigle: | lol |
| [14:28:00] | squigle: | so is canada |
| [14:28:00] | flithm: | totally :) |
| [14:29:00] | flithm: | AU is better though because it's much farther away from US. I swear if the wind hits the right direction I can small the sweet stench of shit coming from the south |
| [14:29:00] | squigle: | lol |
| [14:29:00] | flithm: | not that I'm bitter or anything |
| [14:30:00] | squigle: | cananda is just like au but 40 covered in ice and snow |
| [14:30:00] | squigle: | cananda is just like au but covered in ice and snow |
| [14:32:00] | flithm: | hahaha... yeah. I've actually always wanted to go to australia. seems like a great place. lots of diverse climate areas (or so I'm told). |
| [14:32:00] | squigle: | and desert enough for every one |
| [14:33:00] | ** squigle hands u some sand ** | |
| [14:33:00] | flithm: | you'd be surprised with Canada too. the city I'm from (Calgary) has maybe 2 months of snow, the rest of the time it's pretty reasonable. And in the summer I'd go as far as to say it gets TOO hot some days |
| [14:33:00] | flithm: | heh |
| [14:33:00] | flithm: | thanks |
| [14:33:00] | flithm: | sand is one thing we're fairly short of |
| [14:33:00] | squigle: | lol |
| [14:34:00] | squigle: | i think what u might call hot is what i call mild |
| [14:34:00] | squigle: | 45 degrees is hot |
| [14:35:00] | squigle: | well 40s are hot |
| [14:35:00] | squigle: | enjoying tv? |
| [14:35:00] | flithm: | heh yeah maybe. It gets about 35 degrees C, sometimes up to 40. for me that's too hot. haha whoa 45... dude how do you do anything when it's that hot? |
| [14:36:00] | squigle: | u sit int he bath |
| [14:36:00] | squigle: | or go to place with aircon |
| [14:36:00] | squigle: | 4 or 5 40 + days ina row |
| [14:36:00] | squigle: | argh |
| [14:37:00] | flithm: | still not watching... it crashes when I click "watch tv" but I've been running this over remote X, so I'm configuring the tvoutput now to see if it works when it's run the way it's supposed to (I don't have a working VGA port on the frontend) |
| [14:38:00] | squigle: | what does it say when it crashes? |
| [14:38:00] | flithm: | uhh... some kind of qt error lemme check |
| [14:39:00] | flithm: | Could not connect to server |
| [14:39:00] | flithm: | ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h (373) |
| [14:40:00] | flithm: | hmm |
| [14:40:00] | flithm: | above that it says: "Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.254:6543 (try 1 of 5)" (which is what it should be doing, for real :o))... then "Connection timed out." |
| [14:40:00] | flithm: | dammit wtf |
| [14:42:00] | flithm: | something is obviously still messed up |
| [14:42:00] | Spida: | any pvr* users here? where do I get the latest WORKING sourceof the ivtv driver |
| [14:45:00] | flithm: | Spida: I wish. |
| [14:46:00] | squigle: | flitm what version |
| [14:46:00] | flithm: | 0.17 |
| [14:46:00] | squigle: | try 0.18 |
| [14:46:00] | flithm: | whoa 0.18 is out! |
| [14:47:00] | squigle: | isnt it? |
| [14:47:00] | flithm: | yeah it is |
| [14:47:00] | squigle: | aah yes it is |
| [14:47:00] | flithm: | as of 2 days ago |
| [14:48:00] | squigle: | what is you cap card? |
| [14:49:00] | flithm: | lousy ati tv-wonder. I bought it off my buddy for reasonable price, so I can't complain |
| [14:49:00] | flithm: | i dig the rf-remote though |
| [14:49:00] | squigle: | do u have digital tv there yet? |
| [14:49:00] | Spida: | flithm: ? |
| [14:49:00] | flithm: | Spida: ! |
| [14:50:00] | flithm: | squigle: heh yes... we've had digital tv for a few years... although I'm not rich enough to afford it |
| [14:50:00] | flithm: | (student) |
| [14:50:00] | squigle: | the cards here are about US$100 |
| [14:50:00] | squigle: | not that bad |
| [14:52:00] | flithm: | yeah it's the digital service that kills you. costs like 60 bucks a month here... (with every freakin channel in the world). Right now I pay that for my internet AND analog cable |
| [14:52:00] | squigle: | thats free to air |
| [14:52:00] | squigle: | out cable is encrypted and u cant get at it |
| [14:53:00] | squigle: | i get about 26 channels FTA |
| [14:53:00] | flithm: | oh you mean like over the air hdtv broadcasts? we don't have any ota htdv channels :o( |
| [14:53:00] | flithm: | all encrypted |
| [14:53:00] | squigle: | lol if only i could afford a hdtv |
| [14:54:00] | flithm: | haha no kidding |
| [14:54:00] | ** squigle damns the earth for being a ball ** | |
| [14:54:00] | flithm: | jhahaha |
| [14:54:00] | squigle: | tv sets for US dont work here |
| [14:54:00] | squigle: | or from canada |
| [14:54:00] | flithm: | oh you're on the PAL system? |
| [14:54:00] | squigle: | some weird magnetic field thing |
| [14:54:00] | Spida: | hm, I get 35 analog channels via cable for about 10euros a month, plus 12 digital channels ota for (nearly) free |
| [14:54:00] | squigle: | the tubes dont work |
| [14:55:00] | squigle: | they go funny colours |
| [14:55:00] | Spida: | got two pvr350 cards in my myth-box *g* |
| [14:55:00] | squigle: | out analogue tv is PAL |
| [14:55:00] | squigle: | those 350 cards are so expensive and analogue |
| [14:56:00] | flithm: | you're kidding me... magnetic fields? next you'll tell me the water in your toilet goes backwards |
| [14:56:00] | squigle: | :) |
| [14:56:00] | squigle: | backwards no thats you! |
| [14:56:00] | flithm: | haha |
| [14:57:00] | squigle: | we dont have hdtv tube tv's! |
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| [14:57:00] | squigle: | they are like $1500 in the states |
| [14:57:00] | squigle: | but no one sells them here |
| [14:57:00] | squigle: | I can get an LCD for way to much |
| [14:58:00] | flithm: | how about projection? |
| [14:58:00] | squigle: | yeah thats an option |
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| [14:59:00] | flithm: | expensive though |
| [14:59:00] | flithm: | for a good setup |
| [14:59:00] | squigle: | yeah |
| [14:59:00] | squigle: | I can get cheap digital film ones |
| [15:00:00] | squigle: | only 7k instead of the 45k cinemas pay |
| [15:00:00] | flithm: | hahaha |
| [15:00:00] | flithm: | that would be awesome though |
| [15:00:00] | squigle: | yes till the globe blew! |
| [15:00:00] | squigle: | I bought 2million dollars worth of projectors last year |
| [15:00:00] | squigle: | for work |
| [15:01:00] | flithm: | your work must watch a lot of movies! |
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| [15:01:00] | squigle: | they were for simulation, but usualy yes, I make movies at work |
| [15:02:00] | flithm: | sounds like fun! |
| [15:02:00] | squigle: | bouth 36 projectors for one room |
| [15:02:00] | flithm: | wow crazy |
| [15:02:00] | flithm: | what kind of movies you make? |
| [15:02:00] | laga: | porn? |
| [15:02:00] | flithm: | heheh |
| [15:02:00] | squigle: | no porn! |
| [15:02:00] | squigle: | thats what every one says |
| [15:03:00] | squigle: | no um ones u see at the movies |
| [15:03:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [15:04:00] | squigle: | some popular ones |
| [15:27:00] | flithm: | hey squigle thanks for the help! I gotta run for now. |
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| [15:29:00] | DonLKSAB: | Hi all |
| [15:29:00] | DonLKSAB: | Why cant i delete avideo file from the db? |
| [15:29:00] | DonLKSAB: | Im in phpmyadmin |
| [15:29:00] | DonLKSAB: | but it wont go away :-( |
| [15:30:00] | jemarcks_: | is the PVR150 a good choice? |
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| [15:52:00] | DonLKSAB: | Told to create a NEW database schema, but the database already |
| [15:52:00] | DonLKSAB: | has 56 tables. |
| [15:52:00] | DonLKSAB: | If you are sure this is a good mythtv database, verify |
| [15:52:00] | DonLKSAB: | that the settings table has the DBSchemaVer variable. |
| [15:52:00] | DonLKSAB: | Any ideas? |
| [15:53:00] | DonLKSAB: | Im dead soon |
| [15:53:00] | DonLKSAB: | :-) |
| [15:53:00] | DonLKSAB: | Wife has friends over to watch video and the DB goes down |
| [15:54:00] | DonLKSAB: | Any ideas will help |
| [15:55:00] | stoffel: | check the DBSchemaVer entry in the settings table |
| [15:57:00] | DonLKSAB: | Its there |
| [15:59:00] | DonLKSAB: | Or is it? |
| [16:05:00] | DonLKSAB: | Now mysql wont start at all |
| [16:06:00] | stoffel: | maybe some tables got corrupted? |
| [16:06:00] | stoffel: | due to a fs problem |
| [16:09:00] | DonLKSAB: | I think i fixed the tables |
| [16:10:00] | DonLKSAB: | root@mythtv:/var/lib/mysql/mythconverg # /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| [16:10:00] | DonLKSAB: | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. |
| [16:10:00] | DonLKSAB: | Please take a look at /var/log/mysql/mysql.err |
| [16:10:00] | DonLKSAB: | root@mythtv:/var/lib/mysql/mythconverg # |
| [16:11:00] | TheAsp: | DonLKSAB: did you get hit by the dst bug? |
| [16:11:00] | DonLKSAB: | Dont know |
| [16:11:00] | TheAsp: | DonLKSAB: if so you need to remove the file and the record by hand |
| [16:11:00] | DonLKSAB: | But i cant even start the db now |
| [16:11:00] | TheAsp: | though you should fix mysql first :) |
| [16:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | 050417 16:09:14 Error at /etc/init.d/mysql\nUnknown suffix '/' used for variable 'socket' (value '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock') |
| [16:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: Error while setting value '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' to 'socket' |
| [16:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | Thats what the er file says |
| [16:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | Any ideas? |
| [16:14:00] | stoffel: | maybe does the 'socket' variable setting end with a /? |
| [16:16:00] | DonLKSAB: | Were can i find that variable? |
| [16:16:00] | stoffel: | /etc/init.d/mysql? |
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| [16:19:00] | DonLKSAB: | Damn |
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| [17:55:00] | ikaro: | anyone knows some tips/anything that one can do to minimize noise in the screen ? |
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| [17:59:00] | Tommck: | ikaro – what kind of noise? |
| [17:59:00] | TheAsp: | ikaro: switch to digital or hdtv? :)\ |
| [18:00:00] | Tommck: | TheAsp – just a different kind of noise |
| [18:00:00] | ikaro: | http://ikaro.homepage.dk/1.jpg |
| [18:00:00] | ikaro: | http://ikaro.homepage.dk/2.jpg |
| [18:00:00] | Tommck: | ikaro – is this an artist's interpretation? :) |
| [18:00:00] | TheAsp: | hehe |
| [18:01:00] | ikaro: | yes.. |
| [18:01:00] | TheAsp: | ikaro: some noise can be eliminated by moving power supply cords away from your cable |
| [18:01:00] | ikaro: | the first are waves of noise/static moving from left to right |
| [18:01:00] | TheAsp: | ikaro: on my old mb, turning on spread spectrum fixed some too |
| [18:02:00] | TheAsp: | but not enough |
| [18:02:00] | ikaro: | its only on some channels |
| [18:02:00] | TheAsp: | yeah |
| [18:02:00] | TheAsp: | i have 2 channels that are mostly unwatchable |
| [18:02:00] | ikaro: | if it was a "cable problem" or so it would affect all channels |
| [18:02:00] | TheAsp: | but i record alot of stuff off of them |
| [18:02:00] | TheAsp: | not necesarilly |
| [18:03:00] | Tommck: | ikaro – if you have a cheap cable, replace it |
| [18:03:00] | ikaro: | its a good cable |
| [18:03:00] | TheAsp: | if its a specific frequency thats interfering, it might only affect 1 channel |
| [18:03:00] | ikaro: | with aluminium foil inside too. |
| [18:03:00] | Tommck: | ikaro – also check all the connectors, if you're using splitters and such |
| [18:04:00] | ikaro: | i got 1 single spliter |
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| [18:05:00] | ikaro: | last week these channels didnt had any interference |
| [18:06:00] | Tommck: | ikaro – what changed? |
| [18:07:00] | ikaro: | new version of ivtv |
| [18:07:00] | ikaro: | ive been upgrading whenever a new is out,. |
| [18:08:00] | ikaro: | 2 sek .. going to check out something |
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| [18:12:00] | ** Beirdo shakes his fist at python. stupid POS ** | |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | fuck IT! |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'll leave the changelog for nuvtools in UTC. I've had enough of fighting this shitty language |
| [18:16:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: |
| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | heya :) |
| [18:16:00] | riksta: | fuck you! |
| [18:16:00] | riksta: | ;) |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | what, are you written in python? |
| [18:17:00] | riksta: | yes :( |
| [18:17:00] | riksta: | haha no im just in a stupid mood |
| [18:17:00] | riksta: | i saw you swearing so i wanted to join in |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | ah. |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | gotcha |
| [18:18:00] | riksta: | still cant fix my god damn tv cards |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | trying to make a script to generate the Changelog and some other stuff when releasing... |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | and python's being a bitch |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | so my Changelog will be in UTC |
| [18:19:00] | riksta: | bleh |
| [18:21:00] | Tommck: | any ivtv specialists in the house? :) |
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| [18:24:00] | ikaro: | the image quality on a 30" lcd on the next room is ok |
| [18:25:00] | ikaro: | ive checked the cables and plugs and everything was fine. |
| [18:25:00] | ikaro: | even madea couple new ones ... |
| [18:26:00] | ikaro: | ack .. damn annoying .. |
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| [18:30:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
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| [18:33:00] | Cromz: | imma shoot ivtv I swear.. |
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| [18:36:00] | xris: | Cromz: do IE and javascript first. |
| [18:36:00] | xris: | then you can shoot ivtv |
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| [18:37:00] | xris: | MajestiK: you awake now? |
| [18:37:00] | Cromz: | he.. but but I got ie installed fine on this linux.. only cause I had to, to use active x to view my security cams :P |
| [18:37:00] | MajestiK: | xris: yup |
| [18:38:00] | xris: | send me a password so I can hook you up with an editing account for nuvexport's wiki |
| [18:40:00] | Tommck: | Cromz – I'd like to kill ivtv too... except I can't even compile it on my machine :) |
| [18:41:00] | Cromz: | hmm k lemme reboot again see if this will make it work. I doubt it'll help. |
| [18:41:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [18:41:00] | Tommck: | anyone in here know why ivtv expects my module_param to be different than it is? |
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| [18:48:00] | Cromz: | I don't wanna try it. it's gonna fustrate me lol |
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| [18:52:00] | pattm: | I'm gonna be putting together a mythtv setup with essentially no budget constraints... I'm gonna be getting a brand new flatpanel TV of some sort (lcd or plasma?) and building a new system... $10,000 or something wouldn't be a problem. I'm wondering what I should look for in a TV and video card (1080i, or s-video or whatever) to end up with the best possible picture/highest resolution on the tv. |
| [18:52:00] | Tommck: | why isn't anyone ever in the ivtv-dev channel? |
| [18:52:00] | pattm: | I'm not gonna capture an HDTV signal, I just want a nice picture for playing emulators and stuff mostly |
| [18:53:00] | pattm: | for doing non-mythtv stuff |
| [18:53:00] | pattm: | but I figured I'd ask here because you guys probably know more about hooking televisions to videocards than anyone else |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | " $10,000 or something wouldn't be a problem." *drool* |
| [18:53:00] | pattm: | hehe. |
| [18:54:00] | pattm: | I saw tvs that have VGA inputs... |
| [18:54:00] | pattm: | but that probably would have a lousy picture for actual TV watching |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | our 30" lcd has a DVI input. well, it works. |
| [18:54:00] | pattm: | like I want it to look good with TV but also good as a monitor (like if I want to play quake or something) |
| [18:54:00] | pattm: | i mean, not necessarily "good" but tolerable/readable |
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| [18:55:00] | pattm: | laga: DVI input.. |
| [18:55:00] | pattm: | laga: what do they call that? they just call it DVI? or is there some other word for it in the TV world |
| [18:55:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... does anyone here use an ATI TV Wonder? I'm having this interesting issue where I get slight coloring of the tv stream but it looks largely black and white. I also get a message "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it." Anyone know what's going on here? |
| [18:55:00] | directhex: | "the big white connector of fun" |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | pattm: there is a new, copy-protected version of DVI called HDMI or something like tgat |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | that* |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | directhex: rotfl |
| [18:56:00] | pattm: | HDMI.. is that what HDTV uses? |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | directhex: nice one ;) |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | pattm: probably, dunno. |
| [18:56:00] | xris: | and now for the awake people: https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ |
| [18:56:00] | pattm: | maybe I should get an HDTV tuner too. |
| [18:56:00] | pattm: | I dunno. |
| [18:56:00] | xris: | new page, new version control system |
| [18:57:00] | pattm: | laga: so is DVI the best way to use that? |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | pattm: i think so. i'm not much into HDTV and stuff, i was only able to play with one for a few ours. |
| [18:58:00] | pattm: | laga: does watching TV look better when the computer -> television connection is DVI than when that connection is, say, component video out? |
| [18:58:00] | pattm: | shit. |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | pattm: yep. |
| [18:58:00] | pattm: | well maybe I should get a videocard that outputs in a bajillion different formats |
| [18:58:00] | pattm: | and a tv that inputs in a bajillion different formats |
| [18:59:00] | laga: | sounds like a good idea. but VGA and DVI are pretty standard nowadays, imho. |
| [18:59:00] | pattm: | so that I can just try different ones until I have the best fit |
| [18:59:00] | pattm: | yeah.. |
| [18:59:00] | pattm: | the thing I was worried about with a lot of these high-end TVs was that they were weird resolutions |
| [19:00:00] | pattm: | like a sony wega that says it is 1024x1024.. and I'm wondering, is that some kind of weird interlaced mode they're talking about, or can I actually hook it up somehow (like DVI) and use it like a regular 1024x1024 monitor and get a decent picture on it. |
| [19:00:00] | pattm: | like, be able to run X with readable text |
| [19:00:00] | Cromz: | xris: that's a nice layout.. need to link the latest nuvexport tarball.. lol object not found ;) when you get time that is. |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | crap, left a " in there |
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| [19:03:00] | xris: | fixed |
| [19:06:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... does anyone here use an ATI TV Wonder? I'm having this interesting issue where I get slight coloring of the tv stream but it looks largely black and white. I also get a message "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it." Anyone know what's going on here? |
| [19:15:00] | Tommck: | flithm – nope |
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| [19:15:00] | flithm: | Tommck: thanks :o) I actually think I figured it out (fingers crossed) |
| [19:15:00] | Tommck: | good |
| [19:16:00] | Cromz: | flithm: yeah your tuner isn't set right. lemme see if I can find that info again. |
| [19:16:00] | flithm: | Cromz: thanks, I actually found some info, just applying right now, so I'll let you know if I stil need help |
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| [19:17:00] | flithm: | Cromz: okay still need :o(. |
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| [19:19:00] | flithm: | dammit I know exactly what the problem is... stupid tuner. Why won't you work! |
| [19:20:00] | ** KarlosII ponders how to use a mac min as a pvr ** | |
| [19:21:00] | KarlosII: | mac mini even |
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| [19:21:00] | Tommck: | Cromz – do you have any ideas why ivtv won't compile for me? |
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| [19:27:00] | xris: | KarlosII: it'd work as a frontend |
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| [19:35:00] | mini-morfic: | KarlosII: since there are no sound input on the mini, you must invest in good usb hardware ;P |
| [19:36:00] | Grooby: | hmmmm |
| [19:37:00] | Grooby: | I got SB Live + spdif daughterboard |
| [19:37:00] | Grooby: | I can get sound on everything except mythmusic.... |
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| [19:38:00] | Tommck: | Grooby – mythmusic has its own sound card setting... did you set it? |
| [19:38:00] | Grooby: | i try to set it to alsa:digital |
| [19:38:00] | Grooby: | or alsa:iec958 |
| [19:38:00] | Grooby: | or alsa;spdif |
| [19:38:00] | Grooby: | none works |
| [19:38:00] | TheAsp: | needs to be in caps |
| [19:38:00] | TheAsp: | i think |
| [19:38:00] | Grooby: | ALSA:SPDIF? |
| [19:38:00] | Grooby: | like that? |
| [19:38:00] | TheAsp: | ALSA:default |
| [19:39:00] | Cromz: | Tommck: sorry.. don't know.. ivtv isn't my friend right now.. heh biab again. |
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| [19:41:00] | Grooby: | nope |
| [19:41:00] | Grooby: | no sound |
| [19:41:00] | Grooby: | if I add "options snd-pcm-oss adsp_map=2" at the end of my alsa module config file |
| [19:42:00] | Grooby: | then I get sound from /dev/adsp |
| [19:42:00] | Grooby: | but it is choppy and distorted every couple seconds |
| [19:42:00] | Tommck: | what's weird is Mythtv doesn't give me ALSA: options |
| [19:43:00] | Tommck: | and I have alsa libs installed |
| [19:45:00] | Tommck: | and configure detects alsa support too... |
| [19:45:00] | ** Tommck is puzzeld ** | |
| [19:45:00] | Tommck: | puzzled even |
| [19:45:00] | KarlosII: | xris, yeah i was thinking frontend |
| [19:45:00] | lotia: | do the different modules use different disk patitions? |
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| [19:48:00] | Tommck: | lotia – I don't understand your questoin |
| [19:48:00] | Tommck: | *question |
| [19:49:00] | lotia: | basically so mythvideo and mythtv, do they use different disk partitions |
| [19:49:00] | ikaro: | o.0 |
| [19:49:00] | Tommck: | lotia – why would they use different partitions? |
| [19:49:00] | Tommck: | the whole OS doesn't need more than one partition |
| [19:50:00] | lotia: | well what i mean is use different partitions |
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| [19:50:00] | Tommck: | so, you mean "use different partitions"? :D |
| [19:50:00] | Tommck: | crap.. he left |
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| [19:51:00] | ** Tommck needs the ivtv fairy to visit him ** | |
| [19:51:00] | flithm: | hey anyone here have experience with the ati tv wonder ve? |
| [19:51:00] | Tommck: | flithm – nope :) |
| [19:52:00] | flithm: | hhaha hey Tommck |
| [19:52:00] | Tommck: | hi |
| [19:52:00] | flithm: | lousy cheap hardware... better off buying the real stuff |
| [19:53:00] | Tommck: | :) |
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| [20:07:00] | xris: | o_cee: you beat me to that commit. |
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| [20:10:00] | Tommck: | so, anyone else have compilation issues with ivtv? |
| [20:10:00] | joseph: | doesn't everybody |
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| [20:11:00] | Tommck: | was that a parting comment? |
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| [20:16:00] | xris: | Tommck: /part ? |
| [20:16:00] | ** Tommck cries into his green tea ** | |
| [20:16:00] | xris: | oh, I see. |
| [20:16:00] | xris: | need to scroll back more. heh. |
| [20:16:00] | xris: | I read "what's" |
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| [20:16:00] | Tommck: | ah |
| [20:17:00] | Tommck: | I can't figure out why the heck I can't compile ivtv... it's driving me nuts |
| [20:17:00] | Tommck: | but I'm looking at pictures of Poppy Montogmery at Stuff Magazine's web site.. and that's helping |
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| [20:18:00] | snakeman_: | which one are you trying to compile |
| [20:18:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – 0.3.2z |
| [20:18:00] | snakeman_: | ah I haven't tried z yet |
| [20:18:00] | snakeman_: | whats the problem and kernel you are using |
| [20:18:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – I'd settle for any version... |
| [20:18:00] | Tommck: | http://pastebin.com/272431 |
| [20:19:00] | snakeman_: | well I'm using a bleeding edge pvr-150 with the *.2r |
| [20:19:00] | snakeman_: | the only one that works for me |
| [20:20:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – sorry.. I'm using 2.6.5 |
| [20:20:00] | Tommck: | with SUSE 9.1 |
| [20:20:00] | snakeman_: | hmmmm |
| [20:21:00] | snakeman_: | can you move to 2.6.9 at a min just in case |
| [20:21:00] | Tommck: | with a brand new PVR-500 |
| [20:21:00] | snakeman_: | wow send me one |
| [20:21:00] | jasoncohen: | can any mandrake users help with this. In 2005 LE i get this error when running alsamixer – "i get this error when running alsamixer- "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" |
| [20:21:00] | snakeman_: | what was the price |
| [20:21:00] | Tommck: | but I can't get it to compile, so the card doesn't really matter at this point |
| [20:21:00] | snakeman_: | seems the *2s is the best for that card |
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| [20:22:00] | snakeman_: | |
| [20:22:00] | snakeman_: | |
| [20:22:00] | snakeman_: | did you get my message |
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| [20:25:00] | Tommck: | sorry snakeman_ – did I miss anything? |
| [20:26:00] | snakeman_: | yes |
| [20:26:00] | snakeman_: | |
| [20:26:00] | snakeman_: | |
| [20:26:00] | snakeman_: | did you get my message |
| [20:27:00] | snakeman_: | tommck why dont you use knoppmythtv |
| [20:27:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – just got them |
| [20:27:00] | snakeman_: | k |
| [20:27:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – because I don't want to administer multiple distros in the house |
| [20:27:00] | snakeman_: | ok |
| [20:27:00] | snakeman_: | brb |
| [20:28:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – you're using the same kernel? or does that matter? |
| [20:28:00] | snakeman_: | shouldnt lets see |
| [20:28:00] | snakeman_: | send me |
| [20:28:00] | snakeman_: | z |
| [20:29:00] | snakeman_: | wait a sec |
| [20:29:00] | Tommck: | probably easiest for you to download it |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | it matters. |
| [20:32:00] | snakeman_: | hmmm |
| [20:32:00] | snakeman_: | lets see |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | kernel modules have to be compiled for a specific kernel, usually. |
| [20:32:00] | snakeman_: | true |
| [20:32:00] | snakeman_: | but .......... |
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| [20:33:00] | snakeman_: | sending |
| [20:34:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – what kernel do you run? |
| [20:34:00] | snakeman_: | 2.6.9 |
| [20:34:00] | snakeman_: | sorry |
| [20:34:00] | snakeman_: | lets see any way |
| [20:35:00] | Tommck: | it's most likely not going to function |
| [20:35:00] | Tommck: | couldn't it screw something up though? |
| [20:35:00] | snakeman_: | like what |
| [20:35:00] | snakeman_: | these are just the ivtv modules if you ever get it working it will over write them |
| [20:36:00] | snakeman_: | wow that was slow |
| [20:36:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [20:36:00] | snakeman_: | are you dialup dude |
| [20:36:00] | snakeman_: | anyway |
| [20:37:00] | snakeman_: | place it in /usr/src/ |
| [20:37:00] | snakeman_: | tar xjvf *.tbz |
| [20:37:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – Satellite |
| [20:37:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – /usr/src??? |
| [20:37:00] | snakeman_: | whoa |
| [20:38:00] | snakeman_: | yeah place the file in /usr/src/ dir |
| [20:38:00] | snakeman_: | then tar xjvf *.tbz |
| [20:38:00] | Tommck: | I thought I was going to make install it... why does it need to be in /usr/src? |
| [20:38:00] | snakeman_: | dude |
| [20:38:00] | snakeman_: | ok |
| [20:38:00] | snakeman_: | but at least it will be in the correct place |
| [20:39:00] | snakeman_: | when you do the make install for the driver dir and the util dir |
| [20:40:00] | ** Tommck realizes that snakeman_ could put a trojan in there :) ** | |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | Tommck: they're after YOU anyways. |
| [20:41:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [20:42:00] | Tommck: | make install gave me compilation errors |
| [20:42:00] | Tommck: | the same ones as before |
| [20:42:00] | snakeman_: | crap |
| [20:42:00] | snakeman_: | sorry we gave it a try |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | could you copy & paste them? |
| [20:43:00] | snakeman_: | trojan as in a virus |
| [20:43:00] | snakeman_: | is he serious |
| [20:43:00] | snakeman_: | wow |
| [20:43:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [20:43:00] | snakeman_: | thanks a lot bro |
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| [20:43:00] | Tommck: | I was just playing snowsy2 |
| [20:43:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ |
| [20:43:00] | Tommck: | (geez.. I'm fried) |
| [20:43:00] | snakeman_: | fried |
| [20:43:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – I wasn't talking about condoms :) |
| [20:44:00] | snakeman_: | yeah I know a virus |
| [20:44:00] | Tommck: | laga – paste what? the errors? |
| [20:44:00] | Tommck: | http://pastebin.com/272431 |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | Tommck: yep. |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | thanks |
| [20:44:00] | snakeman_: | whats that website |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | Unknown post id, it may have been deleted |
| [20:44:00] | ** laga hates deadlines ** | |
| [20:45:00] | snakeman_: | Connection Rejected: 195.8.71.92 – Claranet NOC and Customer Network[CLARANET-NETS-BA (04-17–2005 @ 15:19:18) |
| [20:45:00] | Tommck: | snakeman_ – it's a place that lets you paste crap and share it with ppl... |
| [20:45:00] | Tommck: | that's the compilation errors I got |
| [20:45:00] | snakeman_: | that what I get from that site |
| [20:45:00] | Tommck: | weird. |
| [20:45:00] | snakeman_: | ah I see |
| [20:45:00] | Tommck: | oh.. it expired... |
| [20:45:00] | Tommck: | lemme do another |
| [20:46:00] | Tommck: | http://pastebin.com/272499 |
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| [20:49:00] | Tommck: | so.. no comments, huh? |
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| [20:50:00] | laga: | wait a sec, im a little busy |
| [20:50:00] | soccer45202: | has anyone had an issue with the ivtv driver where they have the /dev/video0 set up, but cannot access it thru mplayer or the like? (pvr-500 on fc3) |
| [20:51:00] | soccer45202: | i can cat to a file and it produces a black output, but i cannot access the device directly |
| [20:51:00] | Tommck: | laga – sorry... |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Tommck: no problem. but i'm sorry, too, because i have no idea what's going on :/ |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | Tommck: you could join the ivtv ml and ask there. |
| [20:52:00] | Tommck: | soccer45202 – still haven't passed the compilation phase :) |
| [20:52:00] | Tommck: | laga – already did |
| [20:52:00] | soccer45202: | heh...i got thru that last night ;) |
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| [20:52:00] | soccer45202: | Tommck, what is the problem? |
| [20:52:00] | ** Tommck hears crickets on the ivtv ml ** | |
| [20:52:00] | Tommck: | soccer45202 : http://pastebin.com/272499 |
| [20:53:00] | soccer45202: | Tommck, that is not fun...what guide have you used? |
| [20:54:00] | Tommck: | soccer45202 – guide? |
| [20:54:00] | Tommck: | soccer45202 – you mean for MythTV? |
| [20:55:00] | soccer45202: | Tommck, i have found this useful for setting it up....at least to the point i am at now ;) http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=22832& |
| [20:55:00] | soccer45202: | Tommck, but i have a pvr-500 |
| [20:55:00] | Tommck: | soccer45202 – the card I have doesn't matter... ivtv won't compile |
| [20:56:00] | soccer45202: | Tommck, good point |
| [20:57:00] | Tommck: | this just sucks big fat hairy ass |
| [20:59:00] | snakeman_: | nope the best one for you is here |
| [20:59:00] | snakeman_: | http://www.bitbenderforums.com/vb22/showthread.php?postid=367509 |
| [21:01:00] | Tommck: | I'm not installing a new friggin OS |
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| [21:01:00] | Tommck: | MythTV has been working on this box for months |
| [21:03:00] | snakeman_: | ok |
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| [21:05:00] | visit0r: | anyone having problems with nuvexport? exporting to dvd? |
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| [21:06:00] | soccer45202: | i am having problems accessing my /dev/video0 with the ivtv driver...when i use ivtvctl it gives me information on my two "cards" but i cannot do anything...any clues what could be causing problems – fc3 |
| [21:06:00] | akawaka: | is there anywya to get mythvideo to retrieve metadata from tvtome as well as imdb? |
| [21:07:00] | rtsai1111: | i think there is only an imdb script for tvtome |
| [21:07:00] | rtsai1111: | er, for mythvideo |
| [21:09:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, i am having problems accessing my /dev/video0 with the ivtv driver...when i use ivtvctl it gives me information on my two "cards" but i cannot do anything...any clues what could be causing problems – fc3 now |
| [21:10:00] | akawaka: | rtsai1111: yeah, but nothing for tvtome |
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| [21:25:00] | soccer45202: | anyone have experience with being able to open a video stream from a video device in mplayer or sending it to a file and not being able to access the same device from tvtime or other programs? |
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| [21:32:00] | laga: | could anyone tell me what's the setup called on fedora core 3? |
| [21:32:00] | soccer45202: | mythtvsetup |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | thank you very much. |
| [21:32:00] | soccer45202: | pretty sure that is it |
| [21:33:00] | Cromz: | mythtv-setup maybe. |
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| [21:39:00] | goodie: | is there anyway to increase volum for speech? trying to watch farscape, but the makers of farscape aparantly figures that their audio effects is worth more than what the characters are saying (this matched with my bad hearing makes it really painfull to watch) |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | mplayer has filters do archive this, but i'm not sure about mythtv. |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | i wonder if there's an plugin for alsa? |
| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | goodie: get an eq for your stereo |
| [21:40:00] | goodie: | laga, which filter in mplayer does this? |
| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | goodie: check their documentation. |
| [21:43:00] | goodie: | laga, any clues for what to look for? could not find any reference to speech in the man pages... |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | goodie: not speech. and i dont know if its in the manpage, i found it at mplayerhq.hu. and you should probably look for audio processing instead of "speech" |
| [21:46:00] | ikaro: | so there is no difference between pal-europe[east|west] ? |
| [21:46:00] | ikaro: | i can get the exact same channels using any of the pal freqs. |
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| [22:19:00] | akawaka: | anyone know where i could pick up a usb ir reciever that would be compatible with mythtv and a universal remote? |
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| [22:25:00] | Tommck: | anyone know how to verify which /dev/video devices are my PVR-500 inputs? |
| [22:26:00] | j0seph: | dmesg? |
| [22:26:00] | Tommck: | j0seph – it doesn't tell me which device is created |
| [22:26:00] | j0seph: | i didn't think so. sometimes modules stdout what it is attached to |
| [22:28:00] | Tommck: | right.. my pcHDTV cards spit out /dev/video0 and /dev/video1, but nothing for the PVR-500 |
| [22:34:00] | Tommck: | xris – you around? |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | just barely |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | what's up? |
| [22:34:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | (supposed to do housework) |
| [22:35:00] | Tommck: | you wouldn't happen to have the time to edumacate a guy about ivtv and his PVR-500, wouldya? |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | not really. but I doubt I'd be much help, anyway. |
| [22:35:00] | Tommck: | I've got the driver installed... and I'm getting empty mpg from catting the device... |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | I've found that rebooting after installing the driver helps. |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | dunno why. |
| [22:36:00] | Cromz: | w00ts, nuvexport is doing divx for me :) |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | Cromz: cool |
| [22:36:00] | Tommck: | I did that |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | Tommck: then I have no idea. |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | I haven't had a lot of time to poke at my pvr-150 lately |
| [22:36:00] | Tommck: | xris – cool |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | ok, back to housework before kormoc gets here and my wife yells at me for having a not-clean house. |
| [22:37:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [22:42:00] | Cromz: | go figure, my earlier problem with the ivtv driver wasn't really the driver it was because I read the instructions on how to install it. it said to use tuner = 2 for 250 / 350. wrong! works nice now :) I bet others may be doing the same. |
| [22:42:00] | Cromz: | thanks to a good guy in here :> it lives again. |
| [22:48:00] | Cromz: | xris you can fly here, clean my double wide, then fix this myth up completely for me ;) lol |
| [22:50:00] | Cromz: | I probly am the only person that lives in a double-wide trailer, with a home network of about 5 desktops, 2 notebooks, 2 pda's. and one of the desktops is this system, the mythbox / everything else with a terrabyte storage lol |
| [22:51:00] | xris: | Cromz: you need a basement. |
| [22:51:00] | xris: | can't brew easily without a basement. |
| [22:51:00] | Cromz: | lol ya.. I do. |
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| [22:57:00] | xris: | I need speakers put in around my house so I can hear music no matter where I am |
| [22:57:00] | FairWtns: | xris:Yeah, I've been pondering the best way to do such a thing. |
| [22:58:00] | xris: | FairWtns: you need some decent speakers, a good attic or crawlspace, and some kind of patch panel so you can control what sound goes where. |
| [22:58:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah, that seems to be the way. But in order to have it manageable, I would like some form of automation of the panel. I.e. shut-off speakers in rooms I'm not in. |
| [23:00:00] | Tommck: | xris – I have that... it's great |
| [23:00:00] | Tommck: | my house is wired for 16 sets of speakers... currently have 8 installed |
| [23:00:00] | xris: | Tommck: then you suck. ;) |
| [23:00:00] | Tommck: | lol |
| [23:01:00] | Cromz: | there is a system that already does that. sorta. it uses your bluetooth enabled phone. the strength of the signal tell the computer which room your in and forwards your music / info to you. think it's part of misterhouse .. but you need a bluetooth access point in every room :/ |
| [23:01:00] | Tommck: | xris – help me get my pvr-500 working and I'll let you come over and listen to them! :) |
| [23:01:00] | Cromz: | maybe it's not misterhouse.. I dont' remember |
| [23:01:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [23:03:00] | Tommck: | Cromz – I think plutohome does something like that |
| [23:03:00] | Cromz: | ya that's the one.. |
| [23:03:00] | Cromz: | plutohome |
| [23:03:00] | Cromz: | plutophone |
| [23:03:00] | Cromz: | er.. |
| [23:04:00] | Cromz: | wrong winder |
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| [23:13:00] | Cromz_: | Encoder 1 is local on Drakul and is recording: 'Blind Fury' on EACTW. This recording will end at 6:40 PM. |
| [23:13:00] | Cromz_: | woots :) |
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| [23:19:00] | Torq: | can you read the topic here? |
| [23:19:00] | Torq: | does your IRC client not display topic on join |
| [23:20:00] | FairWtns: | Oh crapicus my knoppix dl... |
| [23:20:00] | chrisbos1977: | yes, it does. the mistake was my own torq. |
| [23:22:00] | chrisbos1977: | ok. so i searched the wiki. i read a few walkthroughs on the subject but i still can't get lirc to not hang on load. does anyone have any good news about using lirc on FC3 with the WinTV PVR-350? |
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| [23:22:00] | Maxt3r: | hey |
| [23:23:00] | FairWtns: | chrisbos1977:The good news is lirc works fine on my 350. Gentoo though. |
| [23:23:00] | Maxt3r: | i need help, i used ubuntu the new one. i installed mythtv and created a account name mythtv, i come 2 the db error how do fix it |
| [23:23:00] | FairWtns: | chrisbos1977:What hangs? lircd? Irw? |
| [23:24:00] | chrisbos1977: | well, when i have lirc relate lines in my modules.conf the boot stalls with "spurious interrupt" |
| [23:24:00] | FairWtns: | Maxt3r:What? What error? |
| [23:25:00] | Maxt3r: | --> Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| [23:26:00] | FairWtns: | chrisbos1977:Take it out of modules.conf for the moment. Load lirc manually and watch the syslogs for any errors. Compiling lirc w/debug on may help. |
| [23:26:00] | Maxt3r: | i get that then i write mythtv-setup |
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| [23:26:00] | Maxt3r: | may i paste the hole proplem in here ? |
| [23:27:00] | FairWtns: | Maxt3r: Look for 'mysql.txt' (mine is in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt) and make sure it has all the proper names and passwords. |
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| [23:27:00] | Maxt3r: | k |
| [23:28:00] | FairWtns: | Alright let's see this knoppix thing go. |
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| [23:28:00] | chrisbos1977: | when i try to load it manually, modprobe lirc_i2c it hangs. nothing of note in the syslog. |
| [23:30:00] | chrisbos1977: | i end up having to reboot to clear the hung modrobe since kill -1 or kill -9 <pid> don't free the console and i don't want to try another modprobe with a clearly borked one. |
| [23:30:00] | AranC23 (~spin@12-215-117-64.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:33:00] | chrisbos1977: | one thing that occured to me is that the video card that i'm using so I can get an xsession going while i set things up (not being used for myth) came with a remote dongle. is it possible that this foolish ATI card is being seen by lirc and is the cause of the fly in my ointment? |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | ok, kormoc's late. root beer cooking must start without him. |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | anyone want a root beer recipe? |
| [23:35:00] | Cromz_: | sure, I'll pass it to my wife. ( like she cooks anyways ) LOL |
| [23:37:00] | AranC23: | is it only possible to do a channel scan on the master backend and not a slave backend? |
| [23:37:00] | Maxt3r: | can anyone paste what they have en /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt offcource not the password |
| [23:38:00] | Cromz_: | Maxt3r: I don't have the right settings on the MySQL database.. so I used the ip of the system. even though it's localhost. |
| [23:39:00] | Cromz_: | easier then learning mysql right now. while I'm learning myth |
| [23:39:00] | Maxt3r: | and that worked ? |
| [23:39:00] | Cromz_: | ya |
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| [23:40:00] | Cromz_: | if I do localhost I get access denied. but if I use the ip.. 192.168.0.8 works. |
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| [23:41:00] | Cromz_: | course I have it static too |
| [23:41:00] | Maxt3r: | working :D love you if it works |
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| [23:44:00] | Maxt3r: | danm same proplem ;( |
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| [23:47:00] | AranC23: | Maxt3r: are you able to log in with the command line mysql client? |
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| [23:48:00] | Maxt3r: | 2 sec |
| [23:49:00] | Maxt3r: | nope |
| [23:49:00] | Maxt3r: | same error |
| [23:50:00] | AranC23: | what error was what exactly? |
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| [23:51:00] | Maxt3r: | may i paste it in here ? |
| [23:51:00] | AranC23: | I guess you could message it to me if it's too long, a couple of lines probably won't annoy anyone though. |
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