| Saturday, April 16th, 2005, 00:02 UTC | ||
| [00:02:00] | flouger42 (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:04:00] | bjohnson (~bjohnson@ip190-172.dsl.istop.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:05:00] | hadees (~hadees@hadees.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [00:06:00] | hadees (~hadees@hadees.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:07:00] | JeepJerk (~not@boirel1.hp.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:07:00] | JeepJerk: | yello |
| [00:07:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone got docs on mythtranscode? |
| [00:08:00] | flouger (~none@207-246-176-60.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [00:08:00] | JeepJerk: | RDMustang: I know you got em :P |
| [00:09:00] | ** JeepJerk basks in the warmth of silence ** | |
| [00:11:00] | BlurredWe (~weasel@dnvrapanas20poolc25.dnvr.uswest.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [00:13:00] | mechtn_ (~mechtn@66.78.164.198) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:28:00] | Octane (~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:30:00] | Roots^ (Mani@cpc1-with2-5-0-cust26.bagu.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [00:30:00] | dfgh (~dfgh@ti200710a080-0197.bb.online.no) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [00:32:00] | schultmc (~schultmc@zealot.progeny.com) Quit ("Client exiting") | |
| [00:34:00] | LedHed (~LedHed@209-209-124-226.stk.inreach.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:40:00] | streamtrade (streamtrad@24.32.25.237) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:40:00] | xris: | JeepJerk: mythtranscode --help |
| [00:40:00] | xris: | that's all it does. |
| [00:40:00] | xris: | it's not for exporting |
| [00:41:00] | mechtn_: | xris can u help me in a bit? |
| [00:41:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [00:41:00] | xris: | mechtn_: maybe |
| [00:41:00] | xris: | depends on how busy I am |
| [00:41:00] | JeepJerk: | xris: I was wondering if I could use it to resize and then stream to stdout |
| [00:43:00] | xris: | no |
| [00:43:00] | xris: | it's not for that. |
| [00:43:00] | xris: | all it does is encode rtjpeg/mpeg4 nuv files to cut commercials, or spit raw audio/video to fifos |
| [00:43:00] | Mytho-X (~chatzilla@c-24-23-54-228.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:44:00] | xris: | if you want to do anything funky with that, take a look at nuvexport. |
| [00:44:00] | xris: | but mythtranscode doesn't do any kind of resizing or anything like that. and it won't, since nuvexport does that kind of thing for you. |
| [00:44:00] | JeepJerk: | I was trying to figure out how to make mythweb show recorded shows over the internet without adding new tools |
| [00:44:00] | LedHed: | WOW. 0.18 is out? |
| [00:44:00] | xris: | JeepJerk: there's already a program out there to do that. |
| [00:45:00] | doggkruse (~geoff@c-24-20-62-178.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:45:00] | JeepJerk: | yeah but it uses mplayer |
| [00:45:00] | xris: | some extension to mythweb that I haven't had a chance to look at and integrate officially. |
| [00:45:00] | xris: | JeepJerk: nuvexport? only if you tell it to. |
| [00:45:00] | JeepJerk: | I thought you were talking about mythtvstrem for a sec |
| [00:46:00] | JeepJerk: | so how come in the transcoding profiles there's a resize option? |
| [00:46:00] | xris: | I don't know what the name of that other one is called |
| [00:47:00] | xris: | there should be... "resolution" .. first screen when editing the profile. |
| [00:47:00] | JeepJerk: | same diff? |
| [00:47:00] | xris: | ? |
| [00:47:00] | xris: | well, transcoding is converting from one format to another.. that include going from one size to another. |
| [00:49:00] | JeepJerk: | so you think nuvexport might help? |
| [00:50:00] | xris: | JeepJerk: it can. and if nothing else, it'll show you how to deal with mythtranscode to get at the raw stream |
| [00:51:00] | JeepJerk: | ic, either way sounds good |
| [00:51:00] | xris: | but find that mythweb extension... it does pretty much what you want it to do. |
| [00:51:00] | JeepJerk: | don't recall the name huh? |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | I just haven't had time to review it and make it part of the official package. |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | no, not off hand. |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | it's burried in my email somewhere, but I don't have time to find it. |
| [00:53:00] | JeepJerk: | maybe on the dev mailing list then eh? |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | dunno. |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | if you haven't found it, bug me in a few hours if I'm around and I'll dig it out for you |
| [00:55:00] | JeepJerk: | cool |
| [00:55:00] | JeepJerk: | tahnks |
| [00:55:00] | Flik (~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net) Quit () | |
| [00:58:00] | JeepJerk (~not@boirel1.hp.com) Quit () | |
| [00:59:00] | metusine (~dgs@60.234.147.40) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [01:00:00] | Flik (~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:05:00] | Paleo (~Paleo@pwsp.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:06:00] | Paleo: | Hi |
| [01:06:00] | Paleo: | is there something like a mythfrontend-lite existing ? to play TV in a small windows without all the big features, something similar to tvtime. |
| [01:06:00] | A| (~A@c-67-182-208-84.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:08:00] | marmoset: | sweet, got my job queue numbers graphing, now I should be able to tell if I'm going to catch up in encoding ;) |
| [01:11:00] | Mytho-X: | is there a way to rerun setup to add the datadirect service? |
| [01:12:00] | marmoset: | Mytho-X: just rerun mythtv-setup or whatever it is :) |
| [01:12:00] | marmoset: | it's mythtv-setup in knoppmyth, I'm not sure if that's the official name |
| [01:13:00] | metusine (~dgs@60.234.147.40) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:13:00] | Mytho-X: | thanks, I will try that |
| [01:13:00] | LedHed (~LedHed@209-209-124-226.stk.inreach.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [01:14:00] | joshe (~joshe@69.233.209.84) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [01:14:00] | joshe (~joshe@69.233.209.84) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:16:00] | Mytho-X: | marmoset: That worked, thank you |
| [01:17:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:17:00] | marmoset: | np |
| [01:18:00] | Mytho-X: | updating the channel lineup now :D |
| [01:19:00] | Mytho-X: | I am hopeing to get everything setup and ready for when I get some new hardware |
| [01:21:00] | h1ro (~h1ro@cpc1-reig1-6-0-cust39.hers.cable.ntl.com) Quit ("Lost terminal") | |
| [01:23:00] | mechtn_: | ok |
| [01:23:00] | mechtn_: | here is my current problem |
| [01:23:00] | mechtn_: | i got my video card running in clone mode |
| [01:23:00] | mechtn_: | in gnome i can see everything just fine on both screens |
| [01:24:00] | mechtn_: | when mythtv starts up i can see everything fine on both screens |
| [01:24:00] | mechtn_: | i got to LiveTv and i can see it on my LCD monitor (primary) but i cannot see it on my TV (secondary s-video) |
| [01:24:00] | doggkruse: | what video card |
| [01:25:00] | doggkruse: | it probably can only handle one xv display at a time |
| [01:25:00] | mechtn_: | its an ati radeon 9200 using flgrx drivers |
| [01:26:00] | TheAsp: | why do people buy ati's? :) |
| [01:26:00] | mechtn is now known as mechaway | |
| [01:26:00] | mechtn_: | becuase for xp gaming they are the best |
| [01:26:00] | mechaway is now known as mechwork | |
| [01:27:00] | marmoset: | anyone know of an rss feed setup for myth, like whenever it records a show it updates? |
| [01:27:00] | TheAsp: | but it the nvidias were faster for doom3 |
| [01:27:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [01:28:00] | mechtn_: | who plays doom3? |
| [01:29:00] | mechtn_: | and doom3 which was designed around the nvidia card with special enhancments from nvidia isnt really a good benchmark.. |
| [01:29:00] | mechtn_: | thats a marketing gimic |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | marmoset: i dont know about rss feed, but i think there's xml output for it |
| [01:29:00] | TheAsp: | mechtn_: all games are designed around special enhancements |
| [01:29:00] | mechtn_: | hey guys lets partner with a really great game to give it just a few FPS better play than our competetion because it'll draw people to us.. |
| [01:30:00] | mechtn_: | wow, it doesnt take alot to see past that marketing gimic |
| [01:30:00] | mechtn_: | i'd rather stick with a real video card provider whose interesting in making the best card for anything |
| [01:31:00] | kormoc: | I play doom3 |
| [01:31:00] | kormoc: | and hl2 was designed around ati |
| [01:32:00] | kormoc: | it's just how it is |
| [01:33:00] | mechtn_: | ah, but if you follow the video card industry closely then you'll notice the difference |
| [01:33:00] | mechtn_: | nvidia went to doom and struck a deal for partnership |
| [01:33:00] | mechtn_: | hl2 went to ati to strike a deal |
| [01:33:00] | marmoset: | nvidia works best for me with the least hassle, that's how I chose :) |
| [01:34:00] | mechtn_: | clearly from what i've read, which could be false... when i company seeks to partner with a hardware maker, its becuase they know they are the best.. |
| [01:34:00] | kormoc: | epic went to nvidia for ut2004/2003 |
| [01:34:00] | mechtn_: | nvidia undercutting ati to get doom was them in a crunch.. i'm not saying thier a bad card |
| [01:35:00] | mechtn_: | just saying i like sticking with a company whose main goal is to better their hardware, reguardless of software |
| [01:35:00] | kormoc: | and iirc, john from id said the nvidia was the best, which is why he choose to work with them |
| [01:35:00] | mechtn_: | is there an option in mythtv to compile it for mutliscreen mode? |
| [01:36:00] | bjohnson_ (~bjohnson@66.11.165.185) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id . . . 030129210315 |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | see there for why nvidia is better then ati for doom3 |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | right from carmack's mouth. |
| [01:37:00] | TheAsp: | mechtn_: wont work on ati probably :) |
| [01:37:00] | mechtn_: | i've heard ppl say it works |
| [01:37:00] | mechtn_: | just how do you set the option |
| [01:38:00] | kormoc: | I don't think you have to compile it specifically |
| [01:38:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [01:38:00] | kormoc: | just set the xinerama screen it defaults to |
| [01:39:00] | mechtn_: | under mythtvsetup ? |
| [01:39:00] | mechtn_: | or in mythtv under options |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | under options in mythtv |
| [01:40:00] | mechtn_: | which one specifically, i'm still a noo |
| [01:40:00] | mechtn_: | bb |
| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | the only one that has xinerama in the name, I'm not near my box so I can't check |
| [01:43:00] | kormoc: | this is assuming you are using the xinerama extention (aka big screen in the flgl drivers) |
| [01:47:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F85A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:49:00] | h1ro (~h1ro@cpc1-reig1-6-0-cust39.hers.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:53:00] | bjohnson (~bjohnson@ip190-172.dsl.istop.com) Quit (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) | |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc (~kormoc@dsl254-022-032.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit () | |
| [01:59:00] | xris (~xris@dsl254-022-032.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") | |
| [02:00:00] | Mytho-X (~chatzilla@c-24-23-54-228.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050406]") | |
| [02:08:00] | mechtn_: | umm |
| [02:08:00] | mechtn_: | when i try and tab between the options |
| [02:09:00] | mechtn_: | i cant select the right screen |
| [02:10:00] | mechtn_: | xinerama shows 0 right now |
| [02:14:00] | r0dzilla (~rodzilla@user-24-214-46-201.knology.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:15:00] | rpete (~rpete@207-180-140-29.c3-0.wth-ubr1.sbo-wth.ma.cable.rcn.com) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [02:18:00] | r0dzilla: | anybody getting "can't initialize video" when trying to view live tv? |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc|afk is now known as kormoc | |
| [02:25:00] | rpete (~rpete@207-180-140-29.c3-0.wth-ubr1.sbo-wth.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:30:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:30:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [02:31:00] | rpete: | a frontend was watching livetv andcrashed, the backend won't stop using the input |
| [02:32:00] | rpete: | how do I get it to stop recording? |
| [02:32:00] | mechtn_ (~mechtn@66.78.164.198) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [02:34:00] | rpete: | well I just restarted the backend, so that'll do for now |
| [02:38:00] | ParadigmS (~none@pcp07711124pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:38:00] | ParadigmS: | hello all |
| [02:38:00] | ParadigmS: | anyone using a PVR-500? |
| [02:38:00] | ParadigmS: | and have it working well? |
| [02:39:00] | jemarcks_: | no, but i was about to order a pvr250 |
| [02:39:00] | jemarcks_: | what model should i buy? a 9xx? |
| [02:39:00] | ParadigmS: | yeah i think its like 900 |
| [02:39:00] | ParadigmS: | maybe 980 |
| [02:40:00] | jemarcks_: | yeah.. .980. why is that model the one to get? |
| [02:40:00] | ParadigmS: | i forget the 350 is 10 above the 250 thats all i remember |
| [02:40:00] | jemarcks_: | i can get a 25 on amazon for 133.00 |
| [02:40:00] | jemarcks_: | a 250 |
| [02:41:00] | ParadigmS: | i have the 350 which works well, i have spent tons of time reading the forums and haven't seen too many problems with the 250 |
| [02:41:00] | ParadigmS: | less then any of the other cards in fact |
| [02:41:00] | marmoset: | jemarcks_: I just ordered a 500 for $140 from amazon |
| [02:41:00] | flouger42: | bah somehow i broke my ability to change channels |
| [02:41:00] | flouger42: | any one have an idea on how i might have done this |
| [02:42:00] | ParadigmS: | marmoset: have you installed it yet? |
| [02:42:00] | marmoset: | flouger42: I lost the ability to change channels after an upgrade because it was set to the wrong tuner type |
| [02:42:00] | marmoset: | ParadigmS: nope, just ordered yesterday :) |
| [02:42:00] | marmoset: | I've got 2 250s currently |
| [02:42:00] | jemarcks_: | marmoset, cool. will i have any troubles with mythtv getting it to work? |
| [02:42:00] | flouger42: | ah how do i change my tuner type again |
| [02:42:00] | marmoset: | jemarcks_: not sure, but the 250s are great |
| [02:43:00] | ParadigmS: | jemarcks_: with the 500 you will likely have tons |
| [02:43:00] | flouger42: | motv can change channels though |
| [02:43:00] | ParadigmS: | i'm considering ditching the 500 and getting two 250's |
| [02:43:00] | jemarcks_: | marmoset, i have read that the 250 offer the least resistance |
| [02:43:00] | marmoset: | flouger42: ah, it's probably not the tuner type then. it's an option when the module is inserted |
| [02:43:00] | jemarcks_: | the 500s are not stable enough for me yet |
| [02:44:00] | jemarcks_: | tomorrow i go shopping at Frys for HTPC hardware!! |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | if I can get the the 500 working, and the quality is close to the 250s, I'll get another 500 and get rid of the 250s |
| [02:44:00] | ParadigmS: | marmoset: if you do that i'll trade you the 250's for my 500 ;) |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [02:45:00] | marmoset: | I'll probably make mythboxes for friends with them |
| [02:45:00] | ParadigmS: | do any B&M stores carry 250's |
| [02:45:00] | flouger42: | option when module is inserted? |
| [02:45:00] | marmoset: | ParadigmS: I got one at fry's, but last time I was there they only had 150s |
| [02:45:00] | flouger42: | ill just trying reinstalling myth tomorrow with lirc support |
| [02:46:00] | ParadigmS: | yeah "option ivtv tuner=57 |
| [02:46:00] | ParadigmS: | something like that |
| [02:46:00] | ParadigmS: | marmoset: yeah at compusa near me, washington dc, thats all they have |
| [02:47:00] | ParadigmS: | i'm having serious issues with my 500 |
| [02:47:00] | ParadigmS: | :-/ |
| [02:48:00] | marmoset: | ParadigmS: what kind of issues? |
| [02:49:00] | ParadigmS: | well when the card is installed with the 350 card also installed there is no input at all |
| [02:49:00] | ParadigmS: | dd produces nothing at all |
| [02:49:00] | marmoset: | ah |
| [02:49:00] | ParadigmS: | no errors on startup of ivtv and it finds everything correctly |
| [02:50:00] | ParadigmS: | when installed without the 350, the computer reboots every time you use both tuners |
| [02:50:00] | ParadigmS: | after about 15 seconds of video |
| [02:50:00] | ParadigmS: | or rather recording |
| [02:53:00] | jemarcks_: | anybody got a SilverStone case wiht a VFD display working? |
| [03:11:00] | kevin__ (~Broncho@adsl-65-70-108-58.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [03:16:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:17:00] | ipso: | Anyone know why the new MythTV configure script isn't detecting LIRC? Even though its installed and working? |
| [03:19:00] | Delemas_ (~rhardy@CPE000fea6e2535-CM00111ae61f20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [03:19:00] | doggkruse (~geoff@c-24-20-62-178.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:19:00] | joshe: | ipso: I saw the same here with lirc. |
| [03:20:00] | joshe: | ipso: firewire did the same thing. |
| [03:20:00] | ipso: | joshe: LIRC works on one of my boxes, but not the other... |
| [03:20:00] | joshe: | ipso: CVS from a couple weeks back was fine... |
| [03:21:00] | ipso: | joshe: is there a way to "force" it by chance? |
| [03:21:00] | ipso: | joshe: cause it works fine with 0.17 |
| [03:21:00] | kevin__ (~Broncho@adsl-65-70-109-185.dsl.mdldtx.swbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:21:00] | joshe: | ipso: I edited the Makefile to force yes after the lib check. |
| [03:21:00] | joshe: | ipso: Nasty.. but worked. :) |
| [03:22:00] | ipso: | joshe: hrmm, I'll give that a try I guess |
| [03:22:00] | Delemas (~Delemas@CPE000fea6e2535-CM00111ae61f20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [03:22:00] | joshe: | ipso: Sorry I mean configure script... not make file.. sorry doh |
| [03:23:00] | ipso: | joshe: yeah, I never thought of just putting lirc="yes", I tried to everything else but. ;) |
| [03:26:00] | donsmith (~donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:27:00] | donsmith (~donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [03:27:00] | joshe: | ipso: Actually wasn't sure what I did wrong at first and checked everything out of CVS again only to have the same issue. My wimpy PC here takes 2+ hours to go through everything. |
| [03:28:00] | ipso: | joshe: Mine takes about 5. ;) |
| [03:28:00] | ipso: | spent all morning compiling myth... |
| [03:28:00] | ipso: | is there a way to just compile the frontend? |
| [03:29:00] | donsmith (~donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:29:00] | streamtrade (streamtrad@24.32.25.237) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:30:00] | donsmith (~donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [03:37:00] | Delemas (~Delemas@CPE000fea6e2535-CM00111ae61f20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:38:00] | Delemas_ (~Delemas@CPE000fea6e2535-CM00111ae61f20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:41:00] | FairWtns (~johnny5@pcp03356204pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:42:00] | ** FairWtns needs gentoo ebuilds. ** | |
| [03:47:00] | fryfrog: | i was gonna say, seen any 0.18 ebuilds yet? :) |
| [03:49:00] | Cromz (~ross@CPE-70-92-136-47.mn.res.rr.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [03:54:00] | FairWtns: | fryfrog:Sorta. ikardo or whoever sent me a myth .18 ebuild, but not the plugins or themes. |
| [03:56:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [03:59:00] | porjo (~boogie@d220-236-63-183.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:01:00] | porjo: | Help please: I've ripped the program guide (Brisbane, Australia) and it seems to have filled the database (I can see the shows listed when I do a select in the program table) but in the program guide, it just shows 'unknown' all the time... |
| [04:04:00] | porjo: | If I go into program finder, I can see the shows listed alphabetically with their times, but not in the program guide...what gives? |
| [04:04:00] | FairWtns: | porjo:That's really oddd. |
| [04:05:00] | FairWtns: | Are you sure everything's listed in the right database? (mythconverg). That's all I can think of. |
| [04:06:00] | porjo: | I think the data may be bad as there does seem to be a lot of fields missing in some entries...I think tv_grab_au is a bit unreliable – what are other's experiences with it? |
| [04:07:00] | FairWtns: | Think there was a bit about tv_grab_au on mythtv.info. Other than that. No idea. |
| [04:08:00] | porjo: | Anyone here using digital (DVB) in Brisbane, Australia? |
| [04:08:00] | r0dzilla: | anybody run across the "unable to initialize video" problem? |
| [04:09:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: when do you get that? |
| [04:09:00] | r0dzilla: | when I try to watch live tv |
| [04:09:00] | r0dzilla: | haven't tried to record anything yet |
| [04:09:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: everytime or just sometimes? |
| [04:09:00] | r0dzilla: | just re-installed gentoo on my pvr system and installed the latest mythtv |
| [04:09:00] | r0dzilla: | everytime |
| [04:09:00] | r0dzilla: | got a pvr 250 |
| [04:09:00] | r0dzilla: | I can cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg and it works |
| [04:10:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: so, have you ever had it working...or is the first time? |
| [04:10:00] | r0dzilla: | yeah, I had it working a couple months ago |
| [04:10:00] | r0dzilla: | but I recently re-did the whole system (re-install linux) |
| [04:10:00] | FairWtns: | I think someone spammed the portage website. |
| [04:10:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: check your file permissions and also make sure nothing else is locking the device.. |
| [04:11:00] | r0dzilla: | file permissions for /dev/video0? |
| [04:11:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: make sure that the Mythtv user (whatever the mythbackend is running as) can read the device you specified in the setup |
| [04:20:00] | r0dzilla: | mythtv user has access to everything in /dev/v4l except for radio0 |
| [04:20:00] | r0dzilla: | so it has access to video0 |
| [04:21:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: and mythtv setup is definitely pointing at video0? Also do 'fuser /dev/video0' to see if any process has it open |
| [04:22:00] | r0dzilla: | not at the moment |
| [04:22:00] | r0dzilla: | but |
| [04:22:00] | r0dzilla: | I just tried to run mythsetup as mythtv user |
| [04:23:00] | r0dzilla: | and it's having problems with the database... |
| [04:23:00] | r0dzilla: | I did the original setup under a different user I think |
| [04:23:00] | r0dzilla: | or I may not have added a mythtv user to the mysql database.. |
| [04:24:00] | r0dzilla: | yeah, there is a mythtv user in mysql/user |
| [04:25:00] | porjo: | what error do you get? |
| [04:26:00] | r0dzilla: | mythtvsetup says it can't connect to the database... |
| [04:26:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [04:28:00] | porjo: | r0dzilla: If mysql is running and permissions are configured...the only other thing I can think of is your missing the qt-mysql interface |
| [04:29:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [04:31:00] | r0dzilla: | could be it |
| [04:32:00] | r0dzilla: | I am updating some packages and the new qt had an error, gentoo says it's because I didn't have mysql use set, but I do... lemme try to re-install that and see if that works... |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:33:00] | r0dzilla: | wow this is wierd |
| [04:34:00] | b_a_t_o_u_sa (~Battousai@adsl-68-255-246-208.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:34:00] | r0dzilla: | my use env var is screwed |
| [04:34:00] | GotD0t: | ok so i have to do a presentation on MythTV for tomorrow |
| [04:35:00] | GotD0t: | anybody wanna help? |
| [04:35:00] | porjo (~boogie@d220-236-63-183.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [04:36:00] | ProtocoLD: | what for ? |
| [04:36:00] | GotD0t: | the local LUG |
| [04:37:00] | FairWtns (~johnny5@pcp03356204pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [04:38:00] | eroc (~kvirc@cpe-24-241-245-130.suff.va.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:38:00] | ProtocoLD: | good luck |
| [04:38:00] | r0dzilla: | porjo, thanks for the help, looks like I gotta re-emerge some stuff and then I'll be trying out the front end again |
| [04:45:00] | GotD0t: | nobody wants to help poor old me? |
| [04:51:00] | abracadabra (~test@adsl-68-20-221-150.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) Quit () | |
| [04:53:00] | pookSter (user@d57-182-197.home.cgocable.net) Quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") | |
| [04:54:00] | streamtrade (streamtrad@24.32.25.237) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:55:00] | eroc (~kvirc@cpe-24-241-245-130.suff.va.charter.com) Quit ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") | |
| [05:03:00] | joshe: | Anyone around able to help me test Mythphone with FWD? |
| [05:10:00] | GotD0t: | sorry |
| [05:11:00] | quink: | so did a gentoo .18 ebuild and plugins ebuild ever get made during the day? |
| [05:11:00] | quink: | seeing how plugins sorta changed |
| [05:11:00] | monrad: | not yet i think |
| [05:12:00] | monrad: | give it a couple of days |
| [05:12:00] | quink: | damn. i don't have time to messar ound with it yet |
| [05:12:00] | quink: | if i have .18 mythtv and .17 plugins do i get problems? |
| [05:12:00] | monrad: | yes |
| [05:12:00] | quink: | damn. |
| [05:12:00] | monrad: | i tried that |
| [05:13:00] | quink: | heh |
| [05:13:00] | quink: | then i'll just revert |
| [05:13:00] | monrad: | i would like to see 0.18, there so be a pvr350 and amd64 fix in there |
| [05:14:00] | monrad: | there should |
| [05:14:00] | monrad: | i am quite tired now |
| [05:14:00] | wesr (~wesr@71-36-56-100.albq.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:14:00] | quink: | well i am gonna stickw ith .17 until the ebuilds get pushed through portage |
| [05:14:00] | Rei_Toi (~Rei@c-24-17-30-210.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC") | |
| [05:14:00] | windexh8er (~nobody@c-24-118-185-212.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [05:15:00] | monrad: | me too |
| [05:15:00] | GotD0t: | im def going to stick with .17 at least for another week |
| [05:15:00] | GotD0t: | have a presentation tomorrow about it |
| [05:15:00] | GotD0t: | and i dont want to show up with the box tomorrow |
| [05:15:00] | GotD0t: | and have it not work |
| [05:16:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [05:16:00] | monrad: | but i dont think it will be too hard for the gentoo devs to make the plugins package |
| [05:16:00] | quink: | does the .lircrc file get read on the fly? like if i edit it, will the changes be present immediately or i have to restar teh daemon? |
| [05:16:00] | GotD0t: | so does anybody want to help me write this presentation? hehe... |
| [05:17:00] | monrad: | quink, i think you have to restart, i did |
| [05:17:00] | wesr (~wesr@71-36-56-100.albq.qwest.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [05:17:00] | GotD0t: | yea you do quink |
| [05:17:00] | monrad: | GotD0t, if you help me sleep :) |
| [05:17:00] | GotD0t: | hmm |
| [05:17:00] | quink: | ah. i forget who posted today but its a nifty 'power' button trick |
| [05:17:00] | GotD0t: | ill mail you some valium monrad |
| [05:17:00] | quink: | it'll make mythtvfrontend restart |
| [05:18:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [05:18:00] | monrad: | thanks ;) |
| [05:18:00] | GotD0t: | so i dont knwo what to write |
| [05:18:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [05:18:00] | GotD0t: | i dont know what topics i should cover |
| [05:18:00] | quink: | ok i just noticed something |
| [05:18:00] | monrad: | but i think i try the old way first, see you all later |
| [05:18:00] | quink: | i have a lircrc in .xine/ and in ~/ |
| [05:18:00] | quink: | do i need both? |
| [05:18:00] | GotD0t: | night monrad |
| [05:18:00] | orion2012 (~orion2012@cpe-66-69-83-49.satx.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:20:00] | quink: | anyone? |
| [05:20:00] | GotD0t: | no clue |
| [05:23:00] | Thrashin (~yomama@pcp05838690pcs.sabrna01.az.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:24:00] | Thrashin: | hi |
| [05:24:00] | GotD0t: | hi Thrashin |
| [05:25:00] | Hondo (~chatzilla@fl-69-68-0-53.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:25:00] | Hondo (~chatzilla@fl-69-68-0-53.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [05:27:00] | doggkruse (~geoff@c-24-20-62-178.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:28:00] | doggkruse (~geoff@c-24-20-62-178.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [05:28:00] | Thrashin: | hi I am reading the mailinglist archive to see if my problem can be answered there. I am trying to set up my first ever myth box and am close but stuck. |
| [05:36:00] | quink: | any of you use fvwm? |
| [05:37:00] | streamtrade (streamtrad@24.32.25.237) Quit () | |
| [05:37:00] | rtsai: | yeah i use fvwm |
| [05:37:00] | quink: | do you have it autostart mythfrontend in the .fvwm startup file? |
| [05:38:00] | obe1: | man, a $20 happuage card, i like that as much as I like my pvr250... no mpeg encoder, but its $20... plus the video is live, no buffering, so i can play ps2, etc with it... :) |
| [05:38:00] | rtsai: | no, I autostart mythfrontend in .Xsession (or .xinitrc or whatever your distro doe) |
| [05:38:00] | quink: | how so? |
| [05:38:00] | quink: | i put: + I Exec exec irxevent |
| [05:38:00] | quink: | + I Exec exec mythfrontend |
| [05:38:00] | quink: | in .fvwm |
| [05:38:00] | rtsai: | that will work too |
| [05:38:00] | quink: | well what i am trying to find out how to do is when my X starts i want to have it load mythfrontend in aloop |
| [05:39:00] | cslinuxboy (~cslinuxbo@host-69-145-120-247.but-mt.client.bresnan.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:39:00] | quink: | so if it terminates/segfaults it'll restart |
| [05:39:00] | quink: | but i can't think of how to do that via .fvwm |
| [05:39:00] | rtsai: | you can't use .fvwm for that |
| [05:39:00] | cslinuxboy: | Can someone help me with a mythtv video corruption problem? Thanks in advance. |
| [05:39:00] | rtsai: | what distro are you using? |
| [05:39:00] | quink: | gentoo |
| [05:39:00] | quink: | so what do you have in .fvwm? nothing much i suppose? |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai: | right, just a one-liner to keep windows sticky, etc. |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai: | Do you have a .xsession or .xinitrc or something like that? |
| [05:40:00] | quink: | Style myth* NoTitle, NoHandles, Sticky, WindowListSkip, SloppyFocus, GrabFocus, BorderWidth 0 |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai: | in the myth user homedir? |
| [05:40:00] | quink: | DeskTopSize 1x1 |
| [05:40:00] | quink: | something like that? |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai: | yeah that |
| [05:40:00] | quink: | ah. |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai: | simple stuff like that |
| [05:40:00] | quink: | i have a .xinitrc i just says fvwm |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai: | ah. |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | so in your .xinitrc, do: |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | fvwm & |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | while :; do |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | mythfrontend |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | sleep 2 |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | done |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | (/bin/sh syntax, slightly different for csh) |
| [05:41:00] | quink: | do you need the & after fvwm? |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | put it in background |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | so mythfrontend is the "foreground" app. If it does, the loop just restarts it. |
| [05:41:00] | quink: | right now i dno't have it as such |
| [05:41:00] | quink: | i get it. |
| [05:42:00] | rtsai: | you technically don't even need to run fvwm, but it's there for things like focus |
| [05:42:00] | quink: | yeah |
| [05:43:00] | rtsai: | I used to not run fvwm at all (just mythfrontend). But running other stuff like xine and other things would do weird things to focus where I didn't have control over myth anymore, so running some wm helped with that |
| [05:43:00] | quink: | yeah |
| [05:43:00] | quink: | i use xine too |
| [05:43:00] | quink: | do you happen to know much about .lircrc files? |
| [05:43:00] | rtsai: | nope, haven't set that up yet |
| [05:43:00] | quink: | no remote control?! |
| [05:44:00] | rtsai: | i just got a radioshack 15–2116. That was the easy part. |
| [05:44:00] | rtsai: | I'm still waiting for an IR receiver I bought off ebay |
| [05:44:00] | rtsai: | :) |
| [05:44:00] | quink: | heh |
| [05:44:00] | quink: | i just added a 'powerbutton' script |
| [05:44:00] | quink: | and figured might as well figure out how to make mythfrontend run in al oop |
| [05:44:00] | rtsai: | i spent some time trying to decide between IRC or wireless keyboard |
| [05:44:00] | quink: | its a pain to run up to my main system ssh in and restart the mythfrontend |
| [05:44:00] | rtsai: | yeah, restart mythfrontend much faster than rebooting :) |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | i never reboot |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | just havea ./restart_myth script |
| [05:45:00] | rtsai: | i guess you haven't had a lockup yet |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | #!/bin/bash |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | killall X |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | killall mythfrontend |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | sleep 3 |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | DISPLAY=:0.0 nohup startx — -dpi 100& |
| [05:45:00] | rtsai: | *cross fingers* |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | well sometiems it just dies |
| [05:45:00] | quink: | i.e. segfault or something |
| [05:46:00] | rtsai: | i meant a hard linux lockup |
| [05:46:00] | quink: | ah, that i haven't had in a long logn long time |
| [05:46:00] | quink: | closest i came was when my hard drive died and i use lvm for tv recording |
| [05:46:00] | rtsai: | i'm running debian pure64, mostly stable |
| [05:46:00] | quink: | that went funky |
| [05:46:00] | cslinuxboy: | video in mythtv gets cut off half way when changing channels. Any help would greatly be appreciated. |
| [05:46:00] | rtsai: | i use lvm too |
| [05:47:00] | rtsai: | so you hav multiple drives set up with that? |
| [05:47:00] | quink: | yep |
| [05:47:00] | quink: | i have the 'scraps' on 3 drives for recording. about 100 gigs |
| [05:47:00] | rtsai: | have you added drives to LVM? I've set up two drives in LVM from the start, just wondering how painful it will be to add another drive later |
| [05:47:00] | quink: | adding shoudl be very simple |
| [05:47:00] | quink: | its removing that hurts |
| [05:47:00] | rtsai: | is that even possible? |
| [05:48:00] | rtsai: | how do you get stuff off the pvs before removing? |
| [05:48:00] | quink: | umm well it was interesting |
| [05:48:00] | quink: | it did a force unmount on its own when thigns got bad |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | i mounted and told it to copy to a spare 100gig partition i had |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | i got 25/35 gigs off |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | and it just couldn't get the rest |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | so i unmounted it |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | wiped it and rebuilt the lvm stuff |
| [05:49:00] | rtsai: | intereseting. So you can actually recover partial stuff off LVM when some of it dies? |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | kept the same share name |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | yeah, i think it was working like JBOD |
| [05:49:00] | rtsai: | That's good to know. |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | so it was able to get a lot off it |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | then i shut down pulled the drive and set it up with one less |
| [05:49:00] | quink: | worked fine, now i only have like 65 gigs |
| [05:50:00] | quink: | well time to go for a bit ttyl |
| [05:50:00] | rtsai: | ttyl |
| [05:52:00] | sc00p (~sc00p@adsl-065-005-216-192.sip.cae.bellsouth.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [05:57:00] | joshe (~joshe@69.233.209.84) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:57:00] | cslinuxboy: | I am trying to fix a video problem on my mythtv system. Can anyone help? Thanks. |
| [05:58:00] | cslinuxboy (~cslinuxbo@host-69-145-120-247.but-mt.client.bresnan.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | wow, someone can file his taxes while they are at it |
| [06:05:00] | flouger (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:08:00] | flouger42 (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [06:09:00] | jason (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:11:00] | quink: | hm i can't make my script work |
| [06:14:00] | chuggachu (riff-raff@rddrpx40-port-43.dial.telus.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:15:00] | jason (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [06:15:00] | Gumby (~gumby@66.103.217.56) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:16:00] | flouger42 (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:16:00] | quink: | how many 'mythfrontend' processes shoudl be running? |
| [06:17:00] | rtsai: | just one |
| [06:17:00] | rtsai: | check .xsession-errors |
| [06:17:00] | quink: | i have 5. |
| [06:17:00] | quink: | i cannot figure out why. |
| [06:19:00] | quink: | ps -ef |
| [06:19:00] | quink: | ops |
| [06:19:00] | quink: | wrong window |
| [06:20:00] | flouger (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [06:27:00] | mechwork (~Maharet@64-247-238-178.wan.networktel.net) Quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [06:27:00] | chuggachu (riff-raff@rddrpx40-port-43.dial.telus.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [06:28:00] | bjohnson_ (~bjohnson@66.11.165.185) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [06:39:00] | Thrashin (~yomama@pcp05838690pcs.sabrna01.az.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [06:44:00] | quink is now known as quink|zzz | |
| [06:46:00] | orion2012 (~orion2012@cpe-66-69-91-6.satx.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:48:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, I stopped by at compusa today and saw an Adaptec Firewire PCI card for $39. Are adaptec firewire cards good for Linux? |
| [06:52:00] | defaultro: | disregard, i found the card and it;s well supported |
| [06:54:00] | sc00p (~sc00p@adsl-065-005-216-192.sip.cae.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:00:00] | flouger (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:03:00] | flouger42 (~none@207-246-177-104.Higgins.ResNet.wiu.edu) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [07:39:00] | linuxwhore (~johnh@207-109-27-8.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [07:47:00] | G0tD0t_Laptop (~joshua@24-49-227-107.miamfl.adelphia.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:48:00] | G0tD0t_Laptop: | whats suggested specs for a box running frontend and backend with a hardware encoder (like the PVR250 |
| [07:48:00] | stoffel_ (~sfr@dsl-084-056-146-230.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:52:00] | GotD0t (~joshua@24-49-227-107.miamfl.adelphia.net) Quit (Nick collision from services.) | |
| [07:52:00] | G0tD0t_Laptop is now known as GotD0t | |
| [07:55:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [08:03:00] | stoffel (~sfr@dsl-084-056-132-067.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [08:04:00] | mag0o (~mag0o@user-24-214-128-145.knology.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [08:19:00] | KraMer (~mark@adsl-70-240-213-254.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:21:00] | dibbydowtimmy (~timb@c-67-180-70-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:29:00] | nicedreams (~Ken@ip68-2-79-215.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:30:00] | mag0o (~mag0o@user-24-214-128-145.knology.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:33:00] | nicedreams: | I installed MythTV from the repositories and when I run 'mythtv-setup' is says it cannot connect to the X server. How do I allow mythtv user access to X server to run this? |
| [08:34:00] | mag0o (~mag0o@user-24-214-128-145.knology.net) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [08:36:00] | stoffel_ is now known as stoffel | |
| [08:37:00] | nicedreams (~Ken@ip68-2-79-215.ph.ph.cox.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [08:37:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [08:40:00] | dibbydowtimmy: | most simple solution is to run everything as yourself. that's what i've found, for what it's worth. if you do this, you'll need to modify the init script accordingly. but to answer your question, use xhost. eg. xhost +mythtv |
| [08:41:00] | dibbydowtimmy: | run xhost in an xterm that already has permission to connect to your x server |
| [08:47:00] | dibbydowtimmy: | the man page says you can use usernames, but that doesn't seem to work. proly better of with xhost +localhost |
| [08:47:00] | NightMonkey (~NightMonk@NightMonkey.active.supporter.pdpc) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:55:00] | visit0r: | better use sudo |
| [09:00:00] | Gumby (~gumby@66.103.217.56) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:01:00] | Truin (~truin@cpe-66-87-135-213.co.sprintbbd.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:02:00] | Truin: | hola |
| [09:03:00] | yz (~yz@216.238.203.49) Quit (Nick collision from services.) | |
| [09:04:00] | Truin: | anyone else running 0.18 on a VIA C3 processor? |
| [09:05:00] | NightMonkey: | Hi, there. How's 0.18 treating everyone? |
| [09:05:00] | Truin: | the change to using /configure as opposed to modifying the settings.pro has yielded me a build for i686 (used to set -march=i586) regardless of the --tune=c3 option. |
| [09:05:00] | ** Truin is having problems building it. ** | |
| [09:06:00] | Truin: | I like having all the plugins in one package since I use almost all of them, but not getting the base to build is really annoying. :) |
| [09:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: For sure, I can see that would be. |
| [09:06:00] | Truin: | I'm considering running tune=i586, but this thing takes SO LONG to build. :) |
| [09:07:00] | Truin: | especially watching TV at the same time – thank goodness for my PVR250 & 350 cards. |
| [09:07:00] | donsmith (~donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:08:00] | Truin: | anyway, what's odd is, I'd expect it to build but just not run if it's a problem with the cpu type... |
| [09:09:00] | Truin: | ... but it actually failed on the make. Of course, I was also half-asleep at the time, so I may have dreamed the whole thing. hahaha |
| [09:09:00] | NightMonkey: | Eye heart my PVR-350. Gotta get the 350 audio->sound-in->sound-out->tv patch going, tho, for non-350-recorded sound. |
| [09:09:00] | mag0o (~mag0o@user-24-214-128-145.knology.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:10:00] | Truin: | that *would* be nice... I'd like to get the mythmusic runnin'. Then gotta get iTunes for linux. Hahahaha! |
| [09:10:00] | NightMonkey: | I want to have xmame working fully. |
| [09:10:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:10:00] | Truin: | yeah, I've been eyein' zsnes and my usb wireless gamepad. it'd go GREAT with myth. |
| [09:11:00] | NightMonkey: | Mythmusic isn't hard to get going. Howver, you can't order songs like with iTunes ;). |
| [09:11:00] | NightMonkey: | I have my Logitech Wingman cordless working – it works well. The kernel drivers work. |
| [09:11:00] | Truin: | oh, I have it up and running, just the audio thing, being non-pvr-350 recorded, and I can't live without the frame-buffered tv-out through ivtv.... |
| [09:12:00] | Truin: | as for itunes, I want access to my room-mate's music collection, streamed, to myth. |
| [09:12:00] | Truin: | I have delusions of grandure, I know. :) |
| [09:12:00] | NightMonkey: | What OS does your roommate use on his music-holding PC? |
| [09:12:00] | Truin: | OSX |
| [09:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Well, you can share via NFS or SAMBA, then mount the directory on your myth box, and viola. |
| [09:13:00] | Truin: | yeah, that's true... I use nfs everywhere else, I suppose OSX could, too. |
| [09:13:00] | ** Truin isn't mac saavy ** | |
| [09:13:00] | NightMonkey: | I have my music on a box, and nfs mount the shared directory on my myth box, and it works great. But, do you have a network between your and your roommates PC? |
| [09:14:00] | datadevil (~maartens@datadevil.demon.nl) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:14:00] | Truin: | oh yeah – 100mbit cat5 in the house, and 3 802.11g WAP's. :) |
| [09:14:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: Yeah, OSX is UNIX at heart, so you should have no problem. |
| [09:14:00] | datadevil: | i have 2 cards here which i can try for capturing; one bt848 based, one bt878 based |
| [09:14:00] | Truin: | sweet – when he gets home I'll ask if he can setup an nfs export for me. |
| [09:15:00] | datadevil: | which is probably the better choice, or would other parts matter lots too? |
| [09:15:00] | Truin: | now, back to my build issue with this darned VIA cpu. |
| [09:15:00] | Truin: | datadevil: use the hauppauge winttv card. :) |
| [09:15:00] | Truin: | is it a PVR-250/350, by chance |
| [09:15:00] | Truin: | ? |
| [09:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: I share it read-only, just so that I can't accidentaly delete my collection by a bug in MythMusic, just fyi. |
| [09:16:00] | Truin: | NightMonkey: good thinkin'. :) ro it is. |
| [09:16:00] | datadevil: | Truin: sorry, no, thats a 878 based one, from '98 |
| [09:16:00] | datadevil: | the other is a miro, also from '98 |
| [09:16:00] | Truin: | datadevil either should work, provided v4l can see them. |
| [09:17:00] | datadevil: | yeah, it should see them, it did 4 years ago |
| [09:17:00] | datadevil: | just wondering how much resources grabbing from those will take.. |
| [09:17:00] | datadevil: | and whether one is faster |
| [09:17:00] | beavis (~beavis@p54A7A523.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:17:00] | datadevil: | or better quality |
| [09:18:00] | Truin: | there's a blurb in the mythtv docs about capture cards, capturing and encoding, and appropriate CPUs. |
| [09:19:00] | Truin: | as for quality... I use hardware encoders, (pvr250/350) so my quality is limited only by signal going into the tuner. The cards, along with the ivtv module, do great work capturing with very little cpu load. |
| [09:19:00] | datadevil: | yeah .. just dont have that one though ;-) |
| [09:20:00] | Truin: | I'm watching TV on one tuner, it's recording on another, and I'm also building 0.18, all on a cheap ($70) mobo/cpu combo. |
| [09:20:00] | Truin: | I'd say you want at least a 1GHz cpu... have you picked/spec'ed your hardware already? (other than tuners, that is) |
| [09:21:00] | datadevil: | 0.18 is from cvsi guess? |
| [09:21:00] | datadevil: | Truin: got an amd athlon xp 2400, should suffice then |
| [09:21:00] | Truin: | 0.18 was released thurs or Fri.. |
| [09:21:00] | Truin: | datadevil: oh yeah. :) You're good. |
| [09:24:00] | datadevil: | Truin: didnt know it was released..jeez |
| [09:24:00] | Truin: | bataou_san – nice nick. :) |
| [09:24:00] | datadevil: | see the topic now |
| [09:24:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:24:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) Quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") | |
| [09:24:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:24:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [09:24:00] | ** xris sings the praises of trac ** | |
| [09:24:00] | Truin: | hazzah! |
| [09:24:00] | xris: | (and a working internet connection again) |
| [09:24:00] | xris: | https://svn.forevermore.net/mythweb/browser/ |
| [09:24:00] | xris: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/browser/ |
| [09:25:00] | Truin: | DoS, anyone? hehehehe |
| [09:25:00] | mag0o (~mag0o@user-24-214-128-145.knology.net) Quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [09:25:00] | datadevil: | ohh..great news about 0.18 being less packages, being a packager and all |
| [09:26:00] | Truin: | so.... 0.18... via c3 cpu.. anyone got a sucessfull build yet? :) |
| [09:26:00] | ikaro: | mojn |
| [09:26:00] | xris: | Truin: what a not-nice thing to say. |
| [09:27:00] | Truin: | xris: hehehehe I didn't mean anything bad by it. :) |
| [09:27:00] | Truin: | it was just taking a while to load the page – I figured everyone hit you at once. |
| [09:28:00] | ** xris is just touchy.. new dsl line has been flaky ** | |
| [09:28:00] | Truin: | Quest? |
| [09:28:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: Wow, never seen Trac before. A merging of source control and wikis! |
| [09:29:00] | xris: | (granted, I plugged in a few days before it's actually "activated" so it's somewhat my fault) |
| [09:30:00] | kormoc: | NightMonkey, trac makes project management a joy. |
| [09:30:00] | Doona_Grl (~mary@78.8.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: Wow wow wow |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: It it something that appears to be so powerful that it seems difficult to understand how it hasn't been made before ;). |
| [09:35:00] | kormoc: | Yeah, but it's more cause subversion is so nice that allows trac to be so simple and grand. |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Well, filed a tracking bug for 0.18 in Gentoo's bugzilla. I have a feeling this one is going to take a while, since it requires a few changes to the ebuilds for myth. |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | I see some troubling ff/rewind bug reports in mythtv-dev, so I'm happy to wait. |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | (it's too early to make judgements, tho, I should say) |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | But, thanks to the devs! :D |
| [09:35:00] | Truin: | last time I looked in portage, 0.16 was the latest stable. Has than been updated? |
| [09:35:00] | Truin: | NightMonkey: maybe I'll finally update to 2005.0. :) |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: No, that's the stable, I believe. I run 0.17, unmasked the myth packages. |
| [09:35:00] | Truin: | ah. Yeah, I was gonna install the frontend, and saw that 0.16 was avail, but my backend is 0.17 so I quickly gave up. heh |
| [09:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: I didn't see any new packages pop up after upgrading my profile on my systems, but, YMMV. |
| [09:35:00] | Truin: | true |
| [09:36:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [09:39:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: Remeber, with Gentoo, there really isn't anything like "upgrading" as it's known in the binary distros. |
| [09:47:00] | datadevil: | there also isnt anything like a version, or stable |
| [09:47:00] | datadevil: | </rant> |
| [09:47:00] | NightMonkey: | Truin: Well, I suppose 1.4 was a bit of an upgrade. |
| [09:47:00] | kormoc: | sure there is |
| [09:47:00] | kormoc: | datadevil, x86 and ~x86 |
| [09:47:00] | kormoc: | stable or testing branchs |
| [09:47:00] | ** Truin nods and kormoc ** | |
| [09:47:00] | Truin: | s/and/at |
| [09:47:00] | NightMonkey: | Not feeding the trolls tonight... ;) |
| [09:47:00] | Truin: | hehe |
| [09:47:00] | NightMonkey: | I'm fresh out of Troll Tasty Snaks(tm). |
| [09:47:00] | Truin: | that's funny cuz I'm munching on handfulls of generic froot loops |
| [09:49:00] | Truin: | so anyone got 0.18 up and running? |
| [09:49:00] | datadevil (~maartens@datadevil.demon.nl) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [09:49:00] | ikaro: | anyone with a pvr350 working could do a ivtvc -a > file and put it inline ? |
| [09:49:00] | ikaro: | online* |
| [09:49:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: One sec, I'll pastebin it. |
| [09:49:00] | ikaro: | thanks nightmonkey |
| [09:49:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: http://pastebin.com/271966 |
| [09:49:00] | ikaro: | nightmonkey, if I can ask you do supply some more info about the versions of the perl /ivtv modules , thanks |
| [09:49:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: FWIW |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | ok .. whats fwiw ? |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | a new window manager ? |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: For What It's Worth |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: ivtv Perl modules? |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: What perl modules? |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: You mean the kernel modules? |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | Video-ivtv , Video-Frequencies |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | ivtv-ptune |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Sorry, I don't have those packages installed. |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | ok. |
| [09:51:00] | Truin: | you shouldn't need them if you're using DataDirect. In fact, I don't think you need perl at all unless you're using xmltv for your grabber, correct? |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | So, I wonder if there will be some sort of integration between MythTV and Google Video? |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | the ptune need them |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: What distro are you using? |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | gentoo |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Have you unmasked those ivtv-ptune and Video-ivtv in /etc/packages.keywords? |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | you are using tv-out or something right? |
| [09:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Sorry, /etc/portage/package.keywords. |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | nightmonkey, i have them in my local portage dir. |
| [09:51:00] | ikaro: | thats not the problem |
| [09:52:00] | ikaro: | im trying to find out why everything was working yesterday, and after I upgraded some packages and reverted back I got a non-working setup |
| [09:52:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: What packages were up/downgraded? |
| [09:52:00] | ikaro: | now, no matter what I do, all i get is static |
| [09:52:00] | ikaro: | ivtv, mythtv, the pearl ones |
| [09:52:00] | ikaro: | and downgraded again .. |
| [09:53:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Put your genlop -l output from yesterday and today on pastebin, I'll take a look. |
| [10:00:00] | ikaro: | im using ivtv from the website, not from portage |
| [10:02:00] | ikaro: | just tried the (y) version .. still nothing |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Ack. |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: I'm running a pure system, and no problems here. |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: There is a script that's part of the perl build that fixes busted perl modules. Let me find it... |
| [10:02:00] | ikaro: | but you say that you dont have them installed, and it works, so its not them ... |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: You might have a busted Perl, tho. |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: /usr/portage/dev-lang/perl/files/perl-cleaner |
| [10:02:00] | ikaro: | http://pastebin.com/271968 |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Whoah. Not what I asked for... |
| [10:02:00] | ikaro: | sure,.,. but do you see anything wrong in there |
| [10:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Hmm... Looks like it might be trying to use an nvidia card? |
| [10:04:00] | NightMonkey: | 005-04–16 10:31:32.994 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this driver? |
| [10:04:00] | NightMonkey: | 2005-04–16 10:31:32.994 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory |
| [10:04:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Could you post what I asked for, please? |
| [10:04:00] | ikaro: | but would that affect the channels not geting tuned+ |
| [10:04:00] | ikaro: | 2 sek |
| [10:04:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Well, if myth doesn't communicate with the right card, perhaps? |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | http://pastebin.com/271973 |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | nothing broken with pearl .. |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Wow, I didn't realize that there was an -r* to ivtv. I'm running the stable build. |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: 0.2.0_rc3 |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: I might not be able to help you with channel changing – I have an ir blaster doing that work, so ivtv doesn't need to do that for me. |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | you use the modules from the kernel or ivtv ? |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: For what? I use the ivtv modules. |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: I don't think there's official kernel modules for ivtv... |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | when modprobe i was asked to remove the one conflicting |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | tuner, tveprom, msp3400 and so |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Oh, for the msp3400. I use the ivtv one. |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | right .. |
| [10:16:00] | arg-on (~pascal@dsl-213-023-179-157.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: I think that tuner is from the kernel sources, and tveeprom and msp3400 are from ivtv, in my setup. |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | hm |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | ill try that |
| [10:16:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Also, the ebuild got a major overhaul between my version and the one you are using (just did a diff). You might try the stable version first. |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | so you have; /lib64/modules/<kernel> /lib64/modules/<kernel>/ivtv /lib64/modules/<kernel>/extra |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | that could be the problem |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Well, I'm not using a 64bit system... ;) |
| [10:16:00] | KillerBunny (~KillerBun@port149.ds1-arno.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | so its /lib/modules only |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Right. |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: And the ivtv ebuild's stuff is in extra. The only conflicting module I had was msp3400, which I renamed to msp3400.OFF (the official kernel module, that is) |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: qpkg -l shows that stuff, fyi. |
| [10:16:00] | ikaro: | i removed them all, in favor of using the ones supplied with the ivtv package |
| [10:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: "Them all"? |
| [10:16:00] | jasoncohen (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [10:17:00] | ikaro: | yes, msp3400, saa71**, tuner and so |
| [10:18:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:20:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [10:21:00] | Truin (~truin@cpe-66-87-135-213.co.sprintbbd.net) Quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [10:21:00] | hadees (~hadees@hadees.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [10:22:00] | hary: | hey all anyone wanna give me a hand getting my pvr350 working? just the tuner right now, i'll worry about the out later |
| [10:22:00] | hary: | all i'm getting right now is static |
| [10:23:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:32:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [10:38:00] | NightMonkey: | Nite, all. |
| [10:38:00] | NightMonkey (~NightMonk@NightMonkey.active.supporter.pdpc) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [10:38:00] | hary: | anyone wanna help? |
| [10:40:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [10:40:00] | donsmith (~donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [10:40:00] | beavis (~beavis@p54A7A523.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit ("Verlassend") | |
| [10:40:00] | kormoc is now known as kormoc|afk | |
| [10:42:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:49:00] | metusine: | what lircrc file does mplayer pick up? |
| [10:49:00] | metusine: | the one in .mythtv/lircrc or /etc/lircrc? |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | ~/.lircrc or /etc/lircrc |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | just link .mythtv/lircrc to ~/.lircrc |
| [10:51:00] | ikaro: | usually whats in your home takes precedence. |
| [10:52:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [10:54:00] | ikaro: | http://pastebin.com/271988 |
| [10:54:00] | ikaro: | thats in dmesg |
| [10:54:00] | ikaro: | doesnt look good at all. |
| [10:57:00] | odisey (~e20932@tm.213.143.88.56.dc.telemach.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:01:00] | odisey (~e20932@tm.213.143.88.56.dc.telemach.net) Quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [11:05:00] | RoCkY: | metusine : you need to have lirc support in mplayer, and lircrc keys setup for mplayer or use irxevent in lircrc as program |
| [11:09:00] | laga: | so, I'm using a bttv card. and mythtv can apply filters during the recording, right? would mythtv use them *after* or *before* the encoding? it'd save me a lot of space if i could use denoise3d before encoding, i guess – my signal is very noisy (read: my card was cheap.) |
| [11:18:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [11:24:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [11:26:00] | Hamsta (~Hamstaman@p5089E50A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:30:00] | arg-on (~pascal@dsl-213-023-179-157.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [11:35:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:41:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F85A.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [11:44:00] | Hamstaa (~Hamstaman@p5089C8DC.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:51:00] | ikaro: | im suppose to get the "tuner" module from the kernel ? |
| [11:55:00] | ikaro: | or ivtv ? |
| [11:55:00] | ikaro: | i have to tuner module anymore, and im getting these: Couldn't find Xv support, falling back to non-Xv mode. |
| [11:55:00] | ikaro: | the ivtv package from portage doesnt make the tuner |
| [11:55:00] | laga: | Couldn't |
| [11:55:00] | laga: | find Xv support, falling back to non-Xv mode. |
| [11:55:00] | laga: | that isn't related to the "tuner" module |
| [11:55:00] | ikaro: | ive searched the mailing lists and google, but always people write is"I guess " |
| [11:55:00] | laga: | well, find out and write an "ultimate guide". |
| [11:55:00] | ikaro: | laga, yes I suppose it isnt, but it doesnt help me to find out why this isnt working .. its only getting worse. |
| [11:55:00] | laga: | and read "how to ask smart questions" first, please. |
| [11:55:00] | ikaro: | was that a smart answer ? |
| [11:57:00] | laga: | it wasn't one. |
| [11:57:00] | laga: | it's impossible to give smart answers to such questions. |
| [11:57:00] | ikaro: | if you dont want to help me, fine. |
| [11:57:00] | laga: | it'd help if you let us know which versions of ivtv, which capture card, etc. |
| [11:57:00] | ikaro: | stable release with pvr350 |
| [11:57:00] | laga: | i'm running 0.2x, IIRC, and i'm using the tuner module supplied with the kernel. |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | <SAB3036 tuner> this one ? |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | nope. i'm in pal country. |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | me to. |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | too |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | let me ssh in my myth box. |
| [11:59:00] | Hamsta (~Hamstaman@p5089E50A.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | go ahead. |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | sorry, it's not in my dmesg anymore. |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | kernel config maybe ? |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | nope. the tuner type is specified at load time. |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | isnmod tuner.ko type=something. |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | ok. but the tuner.ko |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | you shouldn't need to specify the type, btw. ivtv is supposed to automagically detect it...wait, are you running 0.1.9? |
| [11:59:00] | ikaro: | 0.2.0_rc3-r3 |
| [12:00:00] | ikaro: | ### modules-update: start processing /etc/modules.d/ivtv |
| [12:00:00] | ikaro: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [12:00:00] | ikaro: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [12:01:00] | Hamstaa (~Hamstaman@p5089C8DC.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [12:01:00] | ikaro: | ivtv: Timeout waiting for data! Encoder buffers have 0x00000000 bytes. |
| [12:02:00] | ikaro: | etc.. etc.. ive pasted that already |
| [12:03:00] | b_a_t_o_u_sa (~Battousai@adsl-68-255-246-208.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [12:06:00] | laga: | looks good. |
| [12:08:00] | laga: | well, i had to tell ivtv that my card is a pal one. but i dont know if it just happened to me or if it's a common problem |
| [12:08:00] | ikaro: | in the kernel config, under "multimedia devices" -> Video Adapters |
| [12:08:00] | ikaro: | did you marked anything ? |
| [12:10:00] | laga: | i'm running a stock fc3 kernel, IIRC. |
| [12:10:00] | ikaro: | the ivtv poackage from portage builds this: ivtv.ko msp3400.ko saa7115.ko saa7127.ko tveeprom.ko |
| [12:10:00] | ikaro: | no tuned.ko in there |
| [12:10:00] | ikaro: | tuner |
| [12:10:00] | ikaro: | ic .. |
| [12:10:00] | ikaro: | those distros handle things for you. |
| [12:10:00] | laga: | well. |
| [12:10:00] | laga: | why don't you hjust build your own tuner.ko? |
| [12:10:00] | laga: | IIRC, you have to build support for bttv cards in your kernel, and the tuner.ko will magically appear. YMMV, though |
| [12:11:00] | ikaro: | if I download the driver from the website, then yes .. |
| [12:12:00] | dhofstra_ (~dhofstra@c-24-7-238-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [12:12:00] | ikaro: | ill compile all the modules and recompile ivtv and see how it goes. |
| [12:18:00] | ikaro: | http://pastebin.com/271995 |
| [12:18:00] | ikaro: | http://pastebin.com/271996 |
| [12:21:00] | ikaro: | and still nothing ..just static |
| [12:21:00] | NemLappy^ (~Nem@p54ABE4EB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:31:00] | ikaro: | Output : 4 |
| [12:31:00] | ikaro: | Name : YUV C |
| [12:31:00] | ikaro: | is that right ? |
| [12:32:00] | ikaro: | the output ( ivtvctl -p 4 ) |
| [12:32:00] | metusine: | can you get myth to make thumbnails of avi files by taking a frame snap shot rather than goingto imdb? (eg for tv episodes, rather than for movies) |
| [12:38:00] | laga: | ikaro: you'd need to set the input. |
| [12:42:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [12:43:00] | Tommck_ (~Tommck@dpc691923046.direcpc.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:44:00] | Tommck_ is now known as Tommck | |
| [12:51:00] | metusine: | anyone? |
| [12:51:00] | Tommck: | if my PCHDTV 3000 cards are working fine, is there any reason for me to upgrade drivers from 1.6 to 2.0? |
| [12:51:00] | metusine: | google says nothing on this, the mailing list apparently holds no info on it |
| [12:52:00] | Tommck: | metusine – I didn't see your question... what are you asking? |
| [12:52:00] | metusine: | can you get myth to make thumbnails of avi files by taking a frame snap shot rather than goingto imdb? (eg for tv episodes, rather than for movies) |
| [12:52:00] | Tommck: | metusine – I don't know... I don't use mythvideo |
| [12:52:00] | metusine: | doh! |
| [12:53:00] | metusine: | thanks anyway |
| [12:53:00] | Tommck: | np |
| [12:57:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:06:00] | Tommck: | anyone in here have HDTV3000 cards? |
| [13:12:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089E62B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:16:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [13:19:00] | mag0o (~mag0o@user-24-214-128-145.knology.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:25:00] | Roots^ (Mani@cpc1-with2-5-0-cust26.bagu.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:29:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:34:00] | stan_d (~tv@24.3.179.28) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:37:00] | Tommck (~Tommck@dpc691923046.direcpc.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [13:39:00] | stan_d (~tv@24.3.179.28) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [13:53:00] | D-side (~brian@pcp0011384629pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:53:00] | D-side: | why didnt you people tell me! |
| [13:54:00] | D-side: | :) |
| [13:57:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:57:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:57:00] | D-side: | laga: using it yet? |
| [13:58:00] | laga: | on my test system, yes. it works, but i haven't played much with it yet, only 10 minutes or so. |
| [13:58:00] | D-side: | understandable. :) |
| [13:59:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:59:00] | D-side: | reading changelog. |
| [13:59:00] | laga: | i'll probably update my production box next weekend. |
| [13:59:00] | D-side: | think i'm going to hook up my usb drive to it and copy the recordings partition and sqldump, before i break anything. |
| [14:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [14:01:00] | D-side: | hm. then i could also update qt on that box. very good. |
| [14:01:00] | D-side: | laga: how goes it |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | D-side: fine. quite busy ATM, gotta finish some work till monday and study for my drivers licence exam ;) |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | and what about you? |
| [14:03:00] | D-side: | nothing interesting is new. :) just looking for a new toy to buy. |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | umm... |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | a PSP? |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | they're very spiffy. |
| [14:05:00] | ** laga is looking for money to buy a new toy ;) ** | |
| [14:06:00] | D-side: | yeah i know, i really want one of those. |
| [14:06:00] | D-side: | waiting a bit to see if maybe they resolve some of the LCD issues people complain about. |
| [14:06:00] | D-side: | I have a feeling its just whining and bitching, and not something that can really be fixed. |
| [14:06:00] | laga: | oh. |
| [14:06:00] | laga: | well, i'Ve heard that the display of the new nintendo thingie is even worse. |
| [14:07:00] | laga: | brightness-wise. |
| [14:07:00] | ikaro: | is the ivtv ml down or something ? |
| [14:07:00] | ikaro: | .. if anyone knows anything about it. |
| [14:09:00] | D-side: | dunno ikaro |
| [14:09:00] | ikaro: | sent the same email twice already, yesterday and this morning.. but it didnt show up yet. |
| [14:09:00] | D-side: | laga: the dead pixels is what PSPers are whining about. |
| [14:10:00] | ikaro: | "nVidiaVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/nvidia0, No such file or directory" |
| [14:10:00] | laga: | D-side: oh. that sucks. |
| [14:11:00] | ikaro: | im not using the nvidia drivers, nor did I compiled mythtv with "nvidia" support |
| [14:11:00] | laga: | D-side: i hear that sony wants to release movies for the PSP, for the price of a normal DVD. sucks. |
| [14:16:00] | D-side: | laga: aw. i was hoping they were going to be like $10 |
| [14:16:00] | D-side: | i might buy them then. |
| [14:16:00] | D-side: | ikaro: i dont have any experience with that, sorry. |
| [14:16:00] | laga: | D-side: well, you can still transcode your recordings ;) |
| [14:17:00] | laga: | D-side: IIRC, someone posted something about using his recordings on the PSP on the ML |
| [14:24:00] | bjohnson (~bjohnson@66.11.165.2) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:27:00] | D-side: | laga: doing anything atm? |
| [14:27:00] | laga: | umm, probably. what's the problem? ;) |
| [14:39:00] | Hamsta (~Hamstaman@p5089E44C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:51:00] | bjohnson_ (~bjohnson@66.11.165.54) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:52:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089E62B.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [14:56:00] | FairWtns (~johnny5@pcp03356204pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:01:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [15:03:00] | D-side: | FairWtns: howdy. |
| [15:03:00] | GotD0t: | hiya |
| [15:04:00] | pedro (~no@64-151-5-222-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:06:00] | pedro: | When I delete a recorded show in mythweb, is that a "delete and never record" or "delete and record if shown again"? I assume the first. |
| [15:08:00] | Hamsta (~Hamstaman@p5089E44C.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
| [15:09:00] | TheAsp: | delete and never record |
| [15:09:00] | tv-newbie (~learner@202.134.188.162) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:10:00] | bjohnson (~bjohnson@66.11.165.2) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [15:10:00] | tv-newbie: | Hi, does mythtv use transcode to rip dvds ? |
| [15:10:00] | pedro: | thanks TheAsp |
| [15:11:00] | pedro: | I wish there was a way of choosing to delete, but allow it to record again as well |
| [15:13:00] | GotD0t: | pedro: just search for the show and record it |
| [15:14:00] | FairWtns: | D-side:What's up man? |
| [15:14:00] | FairWtns: | How ya been? |
| [15:18:00] | outlier (~tyoung@69.155.202.16) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:19:00] | FairWtns: | CygwinX rocks. |
| [15:20:00] | D-side: | FairWtns: doing a lot of nothing, really. :) |
| [15:20:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah me too. |
| [15:21:00] | D-side: | about to go buy a 19" lcd (8ms response!) for maybe $330 after rebates. |
| [15:21:00] | FairWtns: | That dang remote is causing me probs again. |
| [15:21:00] | D-side: | and dvi. teehee. |
| [15:21:00] | D-side: | breakfast time, then maybe new monitor time. |
| [15:21:00] | FairWtns: | I think I'm going to convert my mythbox V1 to a desktop, and go with some kind of DVI setup. |
| [15:21:00] | FairWtns: | I just saw something cool at my work though. |
| [15:21:00] | D-side: | oh? |
| [15:22:00] | FairWtns: | Apparently, some nvidia cards can take 1 DVI output and drive 2 monitors. |
| [15:22:00] | FairWtns: | I've learned that in a lot of cases 2 15" LCDs are more effective (gaming notwithstanding) then 1 17". |
| [15:22:00] | D-side: | oh. stop. |
| [15:22:00] | D-side: | i might buy two. |
| [15:22:00] | FairWtns: | Hehe. |
| [15:23:00] | laga: | D-side: did ya learn something new? ;) |
| [15:23:00] | FairWtns: | I just finished a job at an insurance co., and they have things set up like that. Including a nice bracket that holds the LCDs in a movable fashion. Sweet. |
| [15:23:00] | D-side: | http://tinyurl.com/bwnbj |
| [15:24:00] | FairWtns: | Nice. |
| [15:24:00] | FairWtns: | Can someone clue me in on the tinyurl thing though? I'm out of touch. |
| [15:24:00] | D-side: | gonna check the local staples, they might have it cheaper. |
| [15:24:00] | D-side: | tinyurl.com, or find a script for your irc client. |
| [15:24:00] | D-side: | you give it $biglongURL and it spits out a tiny one. |
| [15:24:00] | D-side: | okay. time for food. bbl. maybe with an lcd. :) |
| [15:25:00] | FairWtns: | K. |
| [15:25:00] | FairWtns: | Good to see you. |
| [15:25:00] | ** FairWtns investigates this tinyurl thing and how it works. ** | |
| [15:32:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [15:39:00] | GotD0t (~joshua@24-49-227-107.miamfl.adelphia.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [15:39:00] | dhofstra (~dhofstra@c-24-7-238-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:50:00] | Cromz (~ross@CPE-70-92-136-47.mn.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:51:00] | Cromz: | morning :P |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | hi Cromz |
| [15:54:00] | hary (~hary@dslcustomer-213-22.vivodi.gr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:56:00] | hary: | anyone wanna help me troubleshoot my pvr 350? |
| [15:56:00] | Cromz: | so like I did the big upgrade everything last night LOL but I got the core mythtv running :> now to get the plugins and lirc ahahah |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | you sound like a mad scientist |
| [15:56:00] | Cromz: | upgrade kernel, upgrade myth to 0.18 |
| [15:56:00] | Cromz: | well this is the fun of it |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [15:57:00] | Cromz: | being my system ain't normal ;) |
| [15:57:00] | hary: | anyone? |
| [15:58:00] | pedro (~no@64-151-5-222-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net) Quit () | |
| [15:58:00] | Cromz: | hary: I would try to help. but I'm a newb to myth and I got lots of issues to work out on mine :/ |
| [15:58:00] | hary: | ok thank Cromz |
| [15:58:00] | hary: | er thanks |
| [15:58:00] | Cromz: | whats it not doing? |
| [16:00:00] | hary: | i'm getting only static when running "mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0" |
| [16:00:00] | hary: | dosen't matter which channel i tune to, only static |
| [16:03:00] | Cromz: | when you say 'channel you tune to' how you changing channels? (just to get a bigger picture of whats goign on) |
| [16:05:00] | hary: | i'm following jarod's Fedora guide and got the to point of testing the video card, so i'm using "ptune-ui.pl &" to change channels and mplayer to look at what's comming out of /dev/video0 |
| [16:05:00] | Cromz: | ah.. k |
| [16:05:00] | FairWtns (~johnny5@pcp03356204pcs.audubn01.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [16:08:00] | Cromz: | hary: hehe sorry, still trying to compile the mythtvplugins on mine and stuff.. damned x86_64 ;) |
| [16:09:00] | hary: | i sent off an email last night to the ivtv list, but haven't heard anything yet, thought i'd try here |
| [16:09:00] | Cromz: | your using the pal version? |
| [16:10:00] | hary: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/de . . . iew_threaded |
| [16:10:00] | hary: | yea |
| [16:11:00] | Cromz: | when you run the lspci command does it show like jarod's guide? |
| [16:12:00] | hary: | yea Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [16:13:00] | hary: | so i think it's seeing it ok |
| [16:13:00] | joshe (~joshe@69.233.209.84) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:13:00] | Cromz: | and this one too? /bin/dmesg |grep Initialized |
| [16:14:00] | hary: | that looks good also "ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0" |
| [16:15:00] | Cromz: | hmm mine doesn't show that LOL oops. ok I got something else to look at for mine. :O |
| [16:15:00] | hary: | ah fun |
| [16:17:00] | hary: | i've tried a zillion things, but i never get farther than seeing static. i've seen difernt types of static (dark and light) |
| [16:17:00] | Cromz: | kind of strange, mine doesn't do the dmesg but I can watch tv on myth. :/ |
| [16:17:00] | hary: | everyonce in a while i get a setting that sees one channel but really really staticy |
| [16:21:00] | hary: | OMFG i am an idiot |
| [16:22:00] | hary: | the antenna came unplugged |
| [16:22:00] | hary: | i could shoot myself |
| [16:22:00] | Cromz: | :) well I can't help you with that one.. but I was gonna ask that.. just didnt' want to piss you off lol |
| [16:22:00] | hary: | i've spent all day on this, couldn't figure out why. so stupid |
| [16:22:00] | hary: | heh |
| [16:23:00] | hary: | well thanks for the help :] |
| [16:23:00] | Cromz: | it work now? |
| [16:24:00] | hary: | perhaps it was the cardboard man syndrom, you know as soon as you present the problem to someone else you think of something that you haven't thought of before |
| [16:25:00] | hary: | hrm. just locked up. well at least it's a "new" problem |
| [16:26:00] | hary: | what does "Waited too long for the decoder to pause" mean? |
| [16:27:00] | Cromz: | hmmm not sure. but I've gotten that one today too.. :/ lol |
| [16:28:00] | kalev- (~jaank@212-214-143-153.sol.wtnord.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:28:00] | hary: | well i got about 30 seconds of live tv in myth, changed the channel a few times and now it's all black with that message repeating in the shell |
| [16:28:00] | kalev- (~jaank@212-214-143-153.sol.wtnord.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [16:36:00] | scampg1 (~Steve@dsl-217-155-52-25.zen.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:50:00] | ParadigmS: | anyone have a working pvr-500 |
| [16:51:00] | ParadigmS: | oh and hello all ;) |
| [16:55:00] | mini-morfic: | id more like to hear of a working pvr150, so i know if it is any better than my current free wintv ;) |
| [16:56:00] | linuxwhore (~johnh@207-109-27-8.mpls.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:57:00] | flexy (~flexy@dyn3-82-128-190-69.psoas.suomi.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:01:00] | dhofstra: | I was thinking of trying to compile myth 0.18 today, and heres a stupid question; |
| [17:02:00] | dhofstra: | if I mess with compiling with my processor type defined, that will only help the compiling of myth, not the playback cpu utilization, etc.. right? |
| [17:02:00] | JonathanL (~user@client-82-28-7-56.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:10:00] | mini-morfic: | dhofstra: you mean utilizing -march=athlon-xp (or your cpu type?) |
| [17:10:00] | dhofstra: | yeah |
| [17:10:00] | dhofstra: | that just helps compile time? or does it help anything with myth's ability to run faster? |
| [17:11:00] | mini-morfic: | it should help the execution as it would generate code only found for your cpu, not generic to i686 |
| [17:12:00] | dhofstra: | kewl, I'll have to do that then, thanks |
| [17:13:00] | zamboni (~zamboni@66.11.191.210) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:13:00] | jams: | dhofstra, it's known to cause strange behaviour and random segfaults |
| [17:13:00] | dhofstra: | heh |
| [17:13:00] | dhofstra: | nice |
| [17:13:00] | dhofstra: | jams: so you would recommend NOT using it :) |
| [17:13:00] | D-side: | laga: i bought it. $582 w/ a dvi cable, up front. i cant decide if i want to keep it. :) |
| [17:14:00] | jams: | yep that's why only the default settings are supported |
| [17:14:00] | jams: | i wouldn't |
| [17:14:00] | mini-morfic: | dhofstra: always depends on the apps how much it can help, -march also adds all the applicable -mmmx or -m3dnow -msse -msse2 and so forth, how much they help you would have to try and compare -march=i686 with -march=pentium4, or if there are known issues, then all the magic is for nothing |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | D-side: hehe. why cant you decide it? |
| [17:15:00] | mini-morfic: | dhofstra: you can always compile it optimized and if you do find issues, compile it default |
| [17:15:00] | dhofstra: | I would have the march=prescott, but if there are issues, I'll just stay away, everything works quite well by default |
| [17:15:00] | dhofstra: | mini-morfic: thanks maybe I will do that |
| [17:16:00] | D-side: | laga: lot of $ |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | D-side: yep, indeed. |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | D-side: what about the one with the rebates? |
| [17:18:00] | D-side: | still $400 USD |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | that's a lot of money. |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | 19" or 17"? |
| [17:19:00] | D-side: | 19" |
| [17:19:00] | D-side: | its goign to be my primary mythtv playback device at that. :) |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | hehe. get a real TV for $1500 ;) |
| [17:20:00] | D-side: | heh. if i'm obsessing over $400, i think that might be a little out of reach. :) |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | hehe, yep |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | i'd prefer an old CRT and just use the new TFt with the workstation. |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | i spend 8 hours in front of my computer and probably 5 hours/week in front of mythtv ;) |
| [17:22:00] | D-side: | indeed. i spend a LOT of time in front of the computer, and the crt is starting to affect my eyes. |
| [17:22:00] | zamboni: | speaking of monitors I have a Sony 15" doing nada. thing is there s minidin input plug alongside the regular vga cable |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | that's what i mean. |
| [17:23:00] | zamboni: | at least I thing its an input |
| [17:23:00] | zamboni: | anyone know how its used? |
| [17:23:00] | ** laga already has like 4 diopters ** | |
| [17:23:00] | zamboni: | note nothing in the manual abouty the plug |
| [17:26:00] | Spida_ (Spida@p508A56F9.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:29:00] | tv-newbie (~learner@202.134.188.162) Quit (".") | |
| [17:36:00] | Spida (Spida@p508A367B.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [17:42:00] | kalev- (~jaank@212-214-143-153.sol.wtnord.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:44:00] | heatmizer (~whoever@user-0cdvhqh.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:51:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F09E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:52:00] | danielk2 (~danielk@207-237-82-43.c3-0.avec-ubr10.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com) Quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") | |
| [17:52:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F09E.dip.t-dialin.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [17:54:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F09E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:54:00] | heatmizer (~whoever@user-0cdvhqh.cable.mindspring.com) Quit ("Peace & Protection 4.22") | |
| [17:57:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F09E.dip.t-dialin.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [17:59:00] | Gumby (~gumby@66.103.217.57) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:04:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F09E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:05:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089F09E.dip.t-dialin.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [18:07:00] | JonathanL (~user@client-82-28-7-56.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) Quit () | |
| [18:18:00] | saltstang (~mirc@246.80-203-116.nextgentel.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:24:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:24:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [18:24:00] | monrad (~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [18:28:00] | dcstimm (~dcstimm@ny-lackawna-cadent1-grp2e-b-114.bflony.adelphia.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | morning, all |
| [18:29:00] | Cromz: | morning xris.. ya bum sleepin in so late :O :P |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | my bad for trying to get a full 8 hours on the weekend. heh. |
| [18:30:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | alarm went off, and then covad gal called 15 seconds later to tell me that she's almost here to finish setting up my new dsl line |
| [18:31:00] | Cromz: | I've been up and trying to figure out how to compile. for like 2 hours now. damn newb that I am. LOL |
| [18:31:00] | saablover (~bart@dD5E07D0B.access.telenet.be) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:32:00] | Cromz: | maddecoder.cpp:10:17: mad.h: No such file or directory |
| [18:32:00] | Cromz: | ugh.. off to google again lol |
| [18:32:00] | dcstimm: | 0.18, nice change log, any thing really noticable? |
| [18:33:00] | flithm (~tim@S01060050bf0fce96.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:33:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... just trying to set up a mythtv box here, and I have a question about the best way to proceed. I've got two computers, one I want to do the encoding / decoding, one with a tv output. where do I put the tuner card? does mythfrontend access the tunercard or does it stream video over the network from the machine with the tuner car?! |
| [18:34:00] | TheAsp: | it streams video from the storage where the video off of the tuner has been recorded |
| [18:34:00] | Cromz: | the tuner goes in the one do to the encoding and decoding :P |
| [18:34:00] | TheAsp: | you dont need a tuner to decode . . . |
| [18:34:00] | flithm: | nice thanks guys... that's what I thought I just wanted to make sure |
| [18:35:00] | Cromz: | TheAsp: I know.. but the way the question was.. |
| [18:35:00] | bjohnson_ (~bjohnson@66.11.165.54) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [18:35:00] | kevin__ is now known as Broncho | |
| [18:35:00] | TheAsp: | Cromz: *nod* :) |
| [18:36:00] | flithm: | so then obviously the infrared module should go in the machine with the tuner card... also should the sound come from the enc/decode machine as well? or should it come from the front end? (can both be done?) |
| [18:37:00] | Cromz: | hmmm |
| [18:37:00] | TheAsp: | no |
| [18:37:00] | TheAsp: | what are you using ir for? |
| [18:37:00] | TheAsp: | channel changing? |
| [18:37:00] | TheAsp: | or controling the frontend? |
| [18:38:00] | flithm: | uhh... hmmm I'd like to do both! |
| [18:38:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [18:38:00] | flithm: | no eh? |
| [18:38:00] | TheAsp: | ok, i give up |
| [18:38:00] | TheAsp: | shoot me. |
| [18:38:00] | TheAsp: | :) |
| [18:38:00] | TheAsp: | flithm: the backend does the recording of sound and video to disk |
| [18:39:00] | TheAsp: | flithm: the frontend decodes it and puts it out on a soundcard and on your display |
| [18:39:00] | TheAsp: | if you need ir to change channels for the tuner, you need ir on the backend |
| [18:39:00] | TheAsp: | if you want a remote you need ir on the frontend |
| [18:39:00] | TheAsp: | or some other setup (for either) |
| [18:40:00] | TheAsp: | you only need to change channels externally if you need to set the tuner on a specific channel and have some external device do the channel changing, like a cable box |
| [18:41:00] | flithm: | okay gotcha... so the frontend can send a signal to the backend suggesting that the card switch channels |
| [18:41:00] | TheAsp: | no |
| [18:41:00] | flithm: | heh |
| [18:41:00] | TheAsp: | unless you mean watching live tv |
| [18:41:00] | flithm: | yeah watching live tv |
| [18:41:00] | TheAsp: | who watches live tv? :P |
| [18:41:00] | flithm: | heheh good point :) |
| [18:42:00] | flithm: | so you set it to record, and just access the recordings eh? |
| [18:42:00] | TheAsp: | yeah |
| [18:42:00] | TheAsp: | but thats what you are doiung with live tv aswell |
| [18:42:00] | Cromz: | :( well I am at least till I figure out the compiling issues I have with mythplugins-0.18 lol |
| [18:43:00] | flithm: | so it sounds like it'll be best to plugin the ir module to the front end, and just use it that way right? |
| [18:43:00] | saablover: | when I fill in my channel database with mythfilldatabase everything goes well but when I try to browse it from the gui I get unknown all over the place |
| [18:44:00] | TheAsp: | what does your ir module do? |
| [18:44:00] | saablover: | what could be wrong ? |
| [18:44:00] | TheAsp: | flithm: do you need to change channels externally or not? |
| [18:44:00] | dhofstra_htpc (~dhofstra_@c-24-7-238-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:45:00] | flithm: | TheAsp: it's actually a USB dongle with a small antenna, that has a remote which communicates with it. I'm not convinced it's IR to be honest. anyway and no I don't really need to change channels externally |
| [18:45:00] | TheAsp: | flithm: it's not |
| [18:45:00] | TheAsp: | flithm: and that would go on your frontend |
| [18:45:00] | TheAsp: | so that you can use your remote |
| [18:45:00] | flithm: | sweet thanks for talking me through this, I appreciate the hand holding :) |
| [18:46:00] | kalev- (~jaank@212-214-143-153.sol.wtnord.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [18:46:00] | ** flithm off to play with this stuff ** | |
| [18:46:00] | flithm (~tim@S01060050bf0fce96.cg.shawcable.net) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [18:47:00] | Cromz: | cripes that was kind of personal.. oh he said this.. not his.. |
| [18:47:00] | TheAsp: | haha |
| [18:50:00] | marmoset: | anyone know somewhere to buy a good IR receiver? |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | lirc.org |
| [18:51:00] | marmoset: | laga: there's only like 3 places to buy them, and they're all in europe :/ |
| [18:51:00] | flithm (~tim@S01060050bf0fce96.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:51:00] | flithm: | TheAsp: hey sorry one last question... about the sound, it should come from the front end right? |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | europe = good ;) |
| [18:52:00] | marmoset: | laga: yeah, not so much for people in the US tho :) |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [18:52:00] | saablover (~bart@dD5E07D0B.access.telenet.be) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [18:52:00] | marmoset: | I want a receiver that works as well as my tivo one, that thing is on steroids |
| [18:53:00] | TheAsp: | flithm: of course.... |
| [18:54:00] | TheAsp: | marmoset: i'm 95% happy with my ati rf remote |
| [18:54:00] | marmoset: | TheAsp: I've got one now, and it frustrates me :) |
| [18:55:00] | flithm: | marmoset: what's wrong with it? |
| [18:55:00] | saltstang (~mirc@246.80-203-116.nextgentel.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [18:55:00] | marmoset: | flithm: I'm using it via lirc right now, rather than the built in kernel module, and the lirc kernel module just dies pretty often |
| [18:55:00] | TheAsp: | i'm using the kernel driver + lirc with it's /dev/input driver |
| [18:56:00] | marmoset: | I have to kill lircd, unload the module, reload it, and restart lircd |
| [18:56:00] | TheAsp: | my only issue is it's repeat rate cant be controlled |
| [18:56:00] | marmoset: | TheAsp: I did that for a while too, but the repeating keys frustrated me |
| [18:56:00] | TheAsp: | marmoset: did you ever look into it being a lirc bug? |
| [18:56:00] | marmoset: | TheAsp: oh, it could totally be lirc |
| [18:56:00] | flithm: | thanks again TheAsp |
| [18:56:00] | zamboni (~zamboni@66.11.191.210) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [18:56:00] | flithm (~tim@S01060050bf0fce96.cg.shawcable.net) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [18:57:00] | marmoset: | TheAsp: but there's no error messages anywhere, so I'm not even sure where to start looking |
| [18:57:00] | TheAsp: | marmoset: it seems to ignore the repeat/delay stuff for it's event driver |
| [18:57:00] | marmoset: | TheAsp: I have to use lirc with it too, because of my dual head setup |
| [18:57:00] | TheAsp: | marmoset: i ment the repeat rate, not the lirc driver |
| [18:57:00] | marmoset: | TheAsp: the repeating keys don't seem to be much of an issue with lirc, because of being able to control the repeat rate |
| [18:58:00] | marmoset: | the range/response isn't as good as the tivo remote either :) |
| [18:58:00] | marmoset: | I hear that the remote wonder II is better, but I haven't seen it available |
| [18:58:00] | marmoset: | and I don't know if I want to be frustrated with USB again |
| [18:58:00] | TheAsp: | mine works wherever i have it :) |
| [18:59:00] | marmoset: | I have to point it in the general direction of the receiver, and sometimes I have to move it around a bit |
| [18:59:00] | TheAsp: | if lirc could build it's drivers without the kernel source, i'd switch |
| [18:59:00] | marmoset: | I have the lirc module for 2.4.30 if you want it ;) |
| [19:00:00] | laga: | i doubt that it'll work. |
| [19:00:00] | TheAsp: | no, i dont |
| [19:00:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [19:00:00] | TheAsp: | i could make my own easily enough |
| [19:00:00] | TheAsp: | i just dont want to fuckaround when i upgrade kernels |
| [19:00:00] | marmoset: | ah |
| [19:00:00] | marmoset: | yeah |
| [19:00:00] | marmoset: | I know the feeling |
| [19:01:00] | marmoset: | nvidia is a necessary evil in that way though, so I'm resigned to having a list of things to do after a kernel upgrade/recompile |
| [19:02:00] | chuggachuu (itsme@d209-89-43-116.abhsia.telus.net) Quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [19:08:00] | obe1 (~obe1@dhcp-80c46ae6.la-aldea.arizona.edu) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:10:00] | ByteNik (~bytenik@pcp09453791pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:11:00] | kalev- (~jaank@212-214-143-153.sol.wtnord.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:11:00] | kalev- (~jaank@212-214-143-153.sol.wtnord.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [19:12:00] | defaultro: | anyone seen madhaggis? |
| [19:12:00] | ByteNik (~bytenik@pcp09453791pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [19:12:00] | joshe (~joshe@69.233.209.84) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [19:12:00] | myra-bsu (~myra@64.141.181.3) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:13:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) Quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") | |
| [19:15:00] | xris (~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:15:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [19:18:00] | defaultro: | anyone familiar with RGBHV |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | red green blue horizontal vertical? |
| [19:20:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [19:20:00] | defaultro: | question is |
| [19:21:00] | defaultro: | i don't know w/c one is horizonal or vertical, it's color black and gray |
| [19:21:00] | defaultro: | there is no label |
| [19:21:00] | defaultro: | am trying to look at manual on internet but couldnt fine |
| [19:21:00] | defaultro: | find |
| [19:23:00] | defaultro: | bam |
| [19:23:00] | defaultro: | R=RED. G=GREEN. B=BLUE. H=GRAY. V=BLACK |
| [19:23:00] | laga: | neither do i, i just wanted to sound smart :/ |
| [19:23:00] | defaultro: | coz i actually built mine |
| [19:23:00] | defaultro: | but i helped someone in this channel and he gave me really awesome rgbhv cable |
| [19:23:00] | defaultro: | it arrived today |
| [19:24:00] | defaultro: | im going to take a picture of it |
| [19:24:00] | defaultro: | brand is tributaries :) |
| [19:24:00] | linuxwhore (~johnh@207-109-27-8.mpls.qwest.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [19:24:00] | defaultro: | let me try connecting it now |
| [19:24:00] | defaultro: | brb |
| [19:25:00] | bjohnson (~bjohnson@66.11.165.54) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:26:00] | quink|zzz is now known as quink | |
| [19:26:00] | soccer45202 (~benjamin@cvg-65-27-235-139.cinci.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:28:00] | soccer45202: | i have a problem with a pvr-500mce on ubuntu...i have compiled the drivers and they load correctly, but nothing is under /dev/video0 |
| [19:29:00] | quink: | so no gentoo ebuilds for .18 yet? |
| [19:31:00] | soccer45202: | does anyone have experience with the ivtv driver...i believe my question is not too difficult |
| [19:31:00] | soccer45202: | ? |
| [19:35:00] | membreya (~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:35:00] | membreya (~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [19:38:00] | KraMer (~mark@adsl-70-240-213-254.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [19:40:00] | soccer45202: | i have modprobed the ivtv driver and it appears to load correctly when i check dmesg...both tuners appear to be working – is there something that i need to do to get it to show up as a /dev/video0 and /dev/video1? |
| [19:44:00] | hary: | when i modprobe ivtv it makes /dev/video0 for me. so perhaps it's not loading something correctly |
| [19:45:00] | r0dzilla: | hmmm, I'm getting an "extension 'XVideo' missing on display '0:0'" |
| [19:45:00] | soccer45202: | hary, hmm – i am not sure...all of the stuff the driver is saying appears to be working correctly |
| [19:45:00] | TheAsp: | soccer45202: you using udev or devfs? |
| [19:46:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, udev |
| [19:46:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, i believe – i am on ubuntu |
| [19:46:00] | TheAsp: | soccer45202: whats in /dev/v4l/? |
| [19:47:00] | TheAsp: | do you have videodev loaded? |
| [19:47:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, i do not know...how do i do that? |
| [19:47:00] | hary: | soccer, i'm a total newb, so i can't help much, and i'm on FC3, but for me, when i do the modprobe of ivtv that's when i get the /dev/video0. hopefully TheAsp can help more :] |
| [19:47:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, there is nothing in /dev/v4l |
| [19:47:00] | TheAsp: | modprove videodev |
| [19:47:00] | TheAsp: | modprobe |
| [19:48:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, ok |
| [19:49:00] | TheAsp: | well? |
| [19:49:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, video0,1,24,25,32,33 all show up in /dev/ |
| [19:50:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, i did the modprobe and it did not give any feedback |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | yay. nuvexport svn is working. |
| [19:50:00] | TheAsp: | well, you got your devices... |
| [19:51:00] | marmoset: | xris: exporting to subversion? ;) |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | yes. I like trac+svn too much to stay with cvs. |
| [19:51:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, they are all black and yellow though...aren't they supposed to be green? is it a permissions thing? |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | just wish Isaac would see the advantages over cvs. |
| [19:51:00] | TheAsp: | no |
| [19:52:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, I apologize – but i have little experience dealing with capture devices |
| [19:52:00] | r0dzilla (~rodzilla@user-24-214-46-201.knology.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [19:52:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, how do i get tvtime or apps like myth to recognize the card then? |
| [19:52:00] | TheAsp: | read the manual |
| [19:53:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, i can stream from the device to a file to make sure it is working, correct? |
| [19:53:00] | TheAsp: | probably |
| [19:56:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, to set the config on boot, you use /etc/init.d correct? do you have advise as to where i can look for ubuntu on setting the parameters at boot time – somewhere i read to put them in set_ivtv_params, but i am not sure if that is correct |
| [19:57:00] | ByteNik (~bytenik@pcp09453791pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:58:00] | ByteNik: | hey... so i've been out of it for a while due to a lack of free time... what's the unofficial opinion on the quality of the new demod for the air2pc? |
| [19:59:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, when you asked about v4l, where do i need to look about setting it up for my /dev/video0? |
| [20:00:00] | AsBaile (AsBaile@216.96.101.23) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:01:00] | ByteNik: | and also, has support improved for the pvr150 and pvr500? |
| [20:01:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | ByteNik: it does every day |
| [20:02:00] | ByteNik: | i mean, to a usable point? |
| [20:02:00] | AsBaile (AsBaile@216.96.101.23) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [20:02:00] | TheAsp: | soccer45202: /dev/v4l/* is what was /dev/video/* |
| [20:02:00] | ByteNik: | specifically, does it panic anymore when you load ivtv and have both a pvr250 and a pvr150 in the same comp? |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | no clue, there... #ivtv-dev ? |
| [20:02:00] | TheAsp: | soccer45202: if you want stuff loaded at boot, put the name in /etc/modules |
| [20:02:00] | ByteNik: | usually they're dead in there. :P |
| [20:03:00] | r0dzilla (~rodzilla@user-24-214-46-201.knology.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:04:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, thanks... according to the ivtv modprobe info, it has registered the tuners as v4l2 – where do i look to check on if that is working or not? |
| [20:04:00] | marmoset: | xris: heh, when I went to single pass instead of two pass for xvid encoding, the filesize more than doubled, I had no idea :) |
| [20:04:00] | soccer45202 (~benjamin@cvg-65-27-235-139.cinci.rr.com) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [20:05:00] | TheAsp: | I wonder if 0.18 will stop resetting my volume to 0 at the end of recordings |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | marmoset: it's because single pass is about quantisation. it tries to guess at the quality you're aiming for, and thus you have no control over filesize. |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | one show at q6 might be 300M/hour, another might be 100 or 500 or whatever. |
| [20:06:00] | marmoset: | interesting |
| [20:06:00] | marmoset: | well, I'm back to two pass, and just added a dual p4 2ghz into the mix, I can keep up with the recordings now ;) |
| [20:06:00] | marmoset: | it'd be kinda neat to have a knoppix slave-backend CD that you gave a master IP/username/password to, and it'd just help out ;) |
| [20:06:00] | marmoset: | although probably noone but me would want something like that |
| [20:09:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089C8D5.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:09:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089C8D5.dip.t-dialin.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [20:10:00] | marmoset: | anyone ever modified the mythconverg database? I'm thinking about adding a row to a table, curious if it's gonna break anything ;) |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc|afk is now known as kormoc | |
| [20:16:00] | bobxombie1134 (~xombie113@223-112-74-65.gci.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:16:00] | dcstimm (~dcstimm@ny-lackawna-cadent1-grp2e-b-114.bflony.adelphia.net) Quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [20:16:00] | dhofstra_htpc (~dhofstra_@c-24-7-238-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [20:17:00] | bobxombie1134: | hi all |
| [20:17:00] | bobxombie1134: | anyone around, or are all you watching your mythtv? |
| [20:18:00] | r0dzilla: | what kernel options stops the development of the msp3400.ko module? |
| [20:19:00] | r0dzilla: | I know it clashes with another msp3400 module |
| [20:19:00] | defaultro: | laga? |
| [20:20:00] | soccer45202 (~benjamin@cvg-65-27-235-139.cinci.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:20:00] | defaultro: | marmo, it might break it |
| [20:20:00] | defaultro: | grep the source code and look for select statements |
| [20:20:00] | defaultro: | i mean, insert statements |
| [20:21:00] | defaultro: | if you see INSERT like insert into channel values('asfds','sfasdf','asgsdag'), then it will break it |
| [20:21:00] | defaultro: | but if field names where included in the insert statement, it should be fine |
| [20:22:00] | laga: | defaultro: ? |
| [20:23:00] | defaultro: | hey |
| [20:23:00] | defaultro: | first time i connected the rgbhv cable, it didn't work |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | ho ;) |
| [20:23:00] | defaultro: | because i followed the color coding |
| [20:23:00] | defaultro: | H for gray and B for vertical |
| [20:23:00] | defaultro: | oops |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | cool. |
| [20:23:00] | defaultro: | Horizontal for gray and Vertical for Black |
| [20:24:00] | defaultro: | also, my hdtv says the correct color scheme |
| [20:24:00] | defaultro: | i just tried switching black and gray, and it's working now |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | cool! |
| [20:25:00] | defaultro: | took me a long time to connect it because madhaggis wanted me to post it in my webpage too :) I had to find a nice area to capture a pic of it, then modified it in photoshop |
| [20:25:00] | defaultro: | take a look, http://restricted.dyndns.org/tributaries.jpg |
| [20:26:00] | defaultro: | ok, got to continue working on grouting, brb |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | spiffy |
| [20:30:00] | r0dzilla: | yay! my mythtv is working |
| [20:30:00] | r0dzilla: | I can finally see live tv |
| [20:30:00] | r0dzilla: | however... |
| [20:31:00] | r0dzilla: | it's jittery |
| [20:31:00] | r0dzilla: | about every 2 seconds it's jittery |
| [20:31:00] | r0dzilla: | what would cause that |
| [20:31:00] | r0dzilla: | ? |
| [20:32:00] | soccer45202: | TheAsp, i have trying – but programs like tvtime say that they cannot access /dev/video0 – where would you start looking to fix the problem? |
| [20:33:00] | Cromz: | soccer45202: you got any other video sources on there? like a usb cam or anything? |
| [20:34:00] | soccer45202: | no...nothing else...i pulled out an ati tvwonder card that did work – but the video quality was bad |
| [20:34:00] | soccer45202: | Cromz, no...nothing else...i pulled out an ati tvwonder card that did work – but the video quality was bad |
| [20:36:00] | Cromz: | soccer45202: k cause mine is at video1 the video0 is my intel cam.. I did the same switch not to long ago, ati tv wonder to a pvr350. went through the guide and everything work :/ |
| [20:37:00] | soccer45202: | yeah...i have the pvr-500 |
| [20:37:00] | soccer45202: | and followed this guide: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=22832& |
| [20:37:00] | hadees (~hadees@cpe-70-113-20-102.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:38:00] | soccer45202: | Cromz, yeah...i have the pvr-500 and followed this guide: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=22832& |
| [20:41:00] | soccer45202: | Cromz, which drivers are you using? i am using the 0.3x series – also on ubuntu |
| [20:41:00] | r0dzilla (~rodzilla@user-24-214-46-201.knology.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [20:45:00] | Hondo (~chatzilla@fl-69-68-0-53.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:48:00] | Cromz: | soccer45202: old drivers on fedora 3_64. sorry I'm still attemping mythplugin compiling :/ |
| [20:49:00] | Cromz: | lol I really need to update mine.. |
| [20:49:00] | cneb (~benc@markcaswell.dsl.visi.com) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [20:50:00] | soccer45202: | Cromz, if the drivers appear to load correctly but i cannot access the /dev/video(x) – where would you start looking to troubleshoot? |
| [20:51:00] | Cromz: | soccer45202: hmmm permissions on /dev/video0 ? |
| [20:52:00] | soccer45202: | what should they be? |
| [20:52:00] | soccer45202: | Cromz, what should the permissions be? |
| [20:52:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here know the samba file size limit? And possibly a way to get around it (other than compression) when users are trying to watch recordings over a smb share? |
| [20:53:00] | Hondo (~chatzilla@fl-69-68-0-53.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Fedora 1.0.2-1.3.1/20050323]") | |
| [20:55:00] | Cromz: | soccer45202: crw------- 1 root root 81, 1 Apr 16 02:21 /dev/video1 that's what mine is. and I run the backend / frontend as root. |
| [20:56:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089C8D5.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:57:00] | hadees: | hey so the air2pc is the hdtv card to get right |
| [20:57:00] | soccer45202: | Cromz, well, i don't think it is permissions – have a root terminal open and it still does not have access |
| [21:01:00] | D-side (~brian@pcp0011384629pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net) Quit ("dunno :)") | |
| [21:03:00] | rtsai (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:08:00] | outlier (~tyoung@69.155.202.16) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [21:14:00] | Cromz: | Gumby: I check on mine and was able to stream a 3.6 gig nuv file. :/ (wife's xp box to my mythbox) |
| [21:15:00] | Gumby: | hrm |
| [21:15:00] | Gumby: | which codec do you use on your wifes machine (wife's box just sounds...a bit wrong). |
| [21:15:00] | Cromz: | LOL |
| [21:16:00] | Cromz: | I'm trying to remember.. |
| [21:16:00] | Cromz: | :/ |
| [21:16:00] | Cromz: | it's the dysmyth stuff |
| [21:17:00] | Cromz: | er dsmyth |
| [21:17:00] | Cromz: | Gumby: http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/ |
| [21:17:00] | Gumby: | nice, thx |
| [21:21:00] | KiwiKid (~sboddy@82.152.37.129) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:22:00] | KiwiKid (~sboddy@82.152.37.129) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [21:25:00] | hadees: | any one recommend a place to buy the air2pc card |
| [21:29:00] | defaultro: | hi hadees |
| [21:29:00] | defaultro: | only cyberestore is the authorized reseller |
| [21:29:00] | ByteNik: | and they're backordered until forever |
| [21:29:00] | ByteNik: | :P |
| [21:29:00] | ByteNik: | hehe |
| [21:29:00] | defaultro: | im buying another one in May or Jube |
| [21:29:00] | defaultro: | June |
| [21:30:00] | ByteNik: | Don't wait till June |
| [21:30:00] | ByteNik: | it'll prolly be sold out by then |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | good idea |
| [21:33:00] | cneb (~benc@markcaswell.dsl.visi.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:33:00] | AdamW (~adamw@S01060004e2b2d013.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:35:00] | AdamW: | ok, i searched the archives but can't find this, apologies if I missed it... |
| [21:35:00] | AdamW: | trying to build 0.18, i'm just after running ./configure, i run 'qmake mythtv.pro' and all it does is spit out the qmake usage message |
| [21:36:00] | AdamW: | oh, never mind, just fixed it :). it needed me to use ./mythtv.pro . odd. |
| [21:39:00] | kormoc is now known as kormoc|afk | |
| [21:46:00] | [M-M] (~M-M@CPE000d8827f06e-CM0011aec8b246.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:47:00] | jemarcks_: | so, how does .18 look today? |
| [21:47:00] | bobxombie1134 (~xombie113@223-112-74-65.gci.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [21:47:00] | zamboni (~zamboni@66.11.190.228) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:51:00] | ByteNik: | okay, why with the new configuration script, is dvb not detected? |
| [21:51:00] | ByteNik: | what do i need to do to have it find dvb? |
| [21:52:00] | zamboni: | --enable-dvb? |
| [21:52:00] | hadees: | jemarcks_, like one version up from .17 |
| [21:52:00] | ByteNik: | isn't it supposed to autodetect it? |
| [21:52:00] | zamboni: | I wouldnt count on it |
| [21:52:00] | ByteNik: | also, how stable is xvmc now adays? |
| [21:52:00] | ByteNik: | it used to be horrible 2 months ago |
| [21:53:00] | zamboni: | I havent seen the script or the .18 package but the .17 seemed to rely om em telling it what I wanted for some things |
| [21:53:00] | zamboni: | em/me |
| [21:54:00] | zamboni: | come to thinh of it dvb isnt even an option in the .17 configure script |
| [21:55:00] | zamboni: | I wonder why som anny of the --enable options were muted n the first place |
| [21:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | zamboni: the configure script in 0.18 is a total rewrite, it is nothing like the old 0.17 version. |
| [22:01:00] | zamboni: | cool |
| [22:01:00] | zamboni: | I mean it was trivial to remove the # |
| [22:02:00] | zamboni: | Ill have to down load it |
| [22:02:00] | zamboni: | I wonder how much of a breaker the upgrade is? |
| [22:02:00] | defaultro: | Bytenik, xvmc is ok but still stutters the sound |
| [22:02:00] | defaultro: | my cpu is low when using xvmc |
| [22:03:00] | defaultro: | but playback to me isn't acceptable |
| [22:03:00] | defaultro: | playback is normal but you can tell that there is some deinterlacing happening |
| [22:04:00] | zamboni: | so it produces some isible artifacts? |
| [22:04:00] | zamboni: | visible? |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | hi Captain_murdoch, how are you? |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | the vertical line |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | when it's fast moving |
| [22:04:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | so i reverted back to Xv |
| [22:04:00] | zamboni: | makes your eye scan a little I guess? |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | i tried linear and bob |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | both the same |
| [22:04:00] | defaultro: | and jumping of frame |
| [22:04:00] | zamboni: | hmmm like cheesy digital FX |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | something like that |
| [22:05:00] | zamboni: | I can wait |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | it's not a show stopper |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | it's near for sure |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | .19 prolly |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [22:05:00] | defaultro: | Xv works very well for me |
| [22:05:00] | zamboni: | me too |
| [22:05:00] | ByteNik: | oh, and XvMC with htdv? |
| [22:05:00] | ByteNik: | how's that? |
| [22:06:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [22:06:00] | defaultro: | it's ok |
| [22:06:00] | ByteNik: | bleh, i'll just use software decoding |
| [22:06:00] | defaultro: | i get stutter in sound when i show menu |
| [22:06:00] | ByteNik: | my processor can handle it |
| [22:06:00] | defaultro: | xv right if software decoding |
| [22:06:00] | defaultro: | ffmpeg or libmpeg something |
| [22:07:00] | defaultro: | i get about 37%-45% when playing hd in Xv |
| [22:07:00] | defaultro: | I get 27% when using Xvmc |
| [22:08:00] | defaultro: | i got to keep rolling guys |
| [22:09:00] | defaultro: | i'll see you in a bit |
| [22:09:00] | ByteNik: | k |
| [22:11:00] | zamboni: | rolling as in rolling paper? |
| [22:11:00] | ** zamboni does not smoke ** | |
| [22:17:00] | Cromz: | xris you there? |
| [22:17:00] | BattousaiX (~Battousai@pcp0011425693pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | Cromz: yup |
| [22:17:00] | Cromz: | xris: I really like that searches page :) |
| [22:18:00] | Cromz: | that's awesome. course.. now I want to go in and see if I can add some special ones for me lol ;) |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | Cromz: I'm happy to accept patches. |
| [22:19:00] | laga: | reminds me...i have to check out recent nuvexport ;) |
| [22:19:00] | Cromz: | xris: you did that part? it's a kool feature man.. |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | Cromz: actually, it was done by Brad Templeton |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | but in case you hadn't noticed, I maintain mythweb, so patches go to me. |
| [22:21:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | laga: I'm upset at transcode and ffmpeg at the moment. |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | neither of them is behaving |
| [22:21:00] | dfgas (~dfgas@adsl-69-210-84-145.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:22:00] | Cromz: | nwo if I can only get mythmusic to compile then get the lirc going again. lol |
| [22:22:00] | Cromz: | er now |
| [22:22:00] | GotD0t (~joshua@24-49-227-107.miamfl.adelphia.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:23:00] | BattousaiX: | Anyone here familiar with knoppmyth? |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | xris: that's sad. let me guess: mencoder doesnt work, too. |
| [22:23:00] | xris: | I've never gotten mencoder to work at all |
| [22:23:00] | xris: | would love to try it, but it has errors |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | sad. |
| [22:23:00] | GotD0t: | BattousaiX: there IS a knoppmyth channel |
| [22:23:00] | ** zamboni just setteled his differences with ffmpeg & co ** | |
| [22:24:00] | BattousaiX: | Thanks GotD0t. |
| [22:24:00] | zamboni: | mencoder works danndy here |
| [22:25:00] | zamboni: | fwiw my troubles were traced to conflicting libpostproc |
| [22:29:00] | zamboni: | I dont know if the new configure process allows for make uninstall but I for one would welcome that feature |
| [22:30:00] | Octane (~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | "your ffmpeg installation does not support xvid". i suck. |
| [22:38:00] | rtsai: | does anyone here use mythtranscode? |
| [22:39:00] | hadees: | so i broke down and got two air2pc carads |
| [22:39:00] | hadees: | can anyone recommend an antenna |
| [22:39:00] | hadees: | i live in an apt |
| [22:39:00] | rtsai: | indoor antenna? |
| [22:40:00] | rtsai: | I have a radio shack model works great |
| [22:40:00] | rtsai: | 15–1868 |
| [22:40:00] | hadees: | really so just anyone should work |
| [22:40:00] | hadees: | cool |
| [22:40:00] | rtsai: | not realy. I had bought one of those "Silver Sensor" antennas |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | *sigh* compiling things from scratch isnt always a good idea. it might interfere with your package manager. |
| [22:40:00] | hadees: | not going to get it till like may |
| [22:40:00] | rtsai: | it desn't work as well |
| [22:41:00] | hadees: | laga, not if you use gentoo |
| [22:41:00] | rtsai: | ymmv for each antenna. But Radio Shack always accepts returns :) |
| [22:43:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089C8D5.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [22:43:00] | hadees: | rtsai, do you have a hdtv |
| [22:43:00] | monrad (~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:43:00] | zamboni: | Slackware is pretty forgiving when It comes to package management |
| [22:43:00] | Hamstaman (~Hamstaman@p5089C8D5.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:43:00] | zamboni: | laga ^^ |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | hadees: heh. |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | zamboni: slckware has a package management, ok, but the amount of official packages is close to zero ;) |
| [22:44:00] | hadees: | i have component input but can i use the hdtv into a normal tv |
| [22:45:00] | Octane (~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:45:00] | ParadigmS (~none@pcp07711124pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [22:45:00] | zamboni: | yep |
| [22:45:00] | zamboni: | is as close to a roll your own distro as you can jet with out actually rolling your own |
| [22:45:00] | zamboni: | jet/get |
| [22:45:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [22:46:00] | zamboni: | or yes you can roll whatever you want |
| [22:46:00] | zamboni: | flexible like a pipe cleaner |
| [22:46:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [22:46:00] | zamboni: | ure using an rpm based distro like SUSE? |
| [22:46:00] | zamboni: | iirc |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | fedora ;) |
| [22:47:00] | zamboni: | ole |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | but it doesnt matter, i'm gonna redo the box with slackware or gentoo when i'll have a new hdd |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | it's just a lot of work :/ |
| [22:47:00] | zamboni: | sure is |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | i could do some clean up on the fedora install and clone it to the new hdd, i guess. |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | and learn to roll my own rpms ;) |
| [22:47:00] | rtsai: | hadees: yes I have an HDTV, but you can output into regular TV |
| [22:48:00] | jasoncohen (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:48:00] | zamboni: | yeah but its always nice to try out another distro once in awhile...dual boot |
| [22:48:00] | laga: | yep. but not on my mythtv box. |
| [22:48:00] | zamboni: | I flirt but always return to Slack |
| [22:48:00] | laga: | and i'Ve tried several distros lately...suse 9.2, kanotix 2005–1...nothing i wanted to keep. |
| [22:48:00] | hadees: | i am thinking of setting up a hdtv myth box at my parents house to get my sports teams |
| [22:48:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:48:00] | zamboni: | no I guess a dual boot ona pvr is kinda pointless |
| [22:48:00] | laga: | old love ;) |
| [22:49:00] | Gumby (~gumby@66.103.217.57) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [22:49:00] | zamboni: | I like it and never cottoned to the rpm paradigm |
| [22:49:00] | laga: | debian is nice, too. |
| [22:49:00] | zamboni: | yeah but again they dont use tar files |
| [22:49:00] | laga: | tried the sarge netinstaller, rc3. it really rocks. |
| [22:49:00] | laga: | umm, yep. |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | i experienced stuttering with slackware & mythtv :/ |
| [22:50:00] | zamboni: | hmm |
| [22:50:00] | rtsai: | debian is great |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | zamboni: on two different boxes. |
| [22:51:00] | zamboni: | hmm I really wan to get myth on to a dedicated box and not my dexktop machine |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | yep, that'd be way better |
| [22:51:00] | zamboni: | so far so good since I got the hw mpeg card |
| [22:51:00] | zamboni: | with slack but with my zoltrix bt848 framedrops galore |
| [22:52:00] | laga: | yeah, framegrabber cards suck |
| [22:52:00] | zamboni: | so its about 7 hours to render a one hour show in te best quality |
| [22:52:00] | zamboni: | thebt was okay for live tv |
| [22:53:00] | zamboni: | but recording didnt cut it |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | W: Some errors occurred while running transaction <- yay. rpm borkedness. *sigh* |
| [22:59:00] | mini-morfic: | what provides btaudio module? or did it's name change? |
| [23:01:00] | joshe (~joshe@69.233.209.84) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:01:00] | mini-morfic: | iin kernel i see snd-bt87x not btaudio |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | snd-bt87x sounds like btaudio in 2.6 style |
| [23:04:00] | scampg1 (~Steve@dsl-217-155-52-25.zen.co.uk) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [23:07:00] | mini-morfic: | then no new thing to try |
| [23:07:00] | mini-morfic: | and ill e a patch cabler forever |
| [23:11:00] | zamboni (~zamboni@66.11.190.228) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [23:15:00] | Flik (~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net) Quit () | |
| [23:17:00] | marmoset: | damnit |
| [23:17:00] | marmoset: | I hate it when google's down |
| [23:18:00] | GotD0t: | google? down? |
| [23:18:00] | GotD0t: | when? |
| [23:18:00] | marmoset: | right now for me :) |
| [23:18:00] | GotD0t: | oh |
| [23:18:00] | GotD0t: | for YOU |
| [23:18:00] | marmoset: | well, yeah, things like down are always relative ;) |
| [23:18:00] | GotD0t: | why is it down |
| [23:18:00] | marmoset: | dunno, packets get to their datacenter but never come back out :) |
| [23:19:00] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [23:19:00] | marmoset: | that's weird |
| [23:19:00] | marmoset: | they're doing something strange |
| [23:19:00] | marmoset: | who knows |
| [23:20:00] | Flik (~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:22:00] | Doona_Grl: | exit |
| [23:22:00] | Doona_Grl (~mary@78.8.233.220.exetel.com.au) Quit ("Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/") | |
| [23:23:00] | jasoncohen (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [23:24:00] | jasoncohen (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:25:00] | Spida: | good morning |
| [23:25:00] | Spida: | anybody got an idea if/when 0.18 ebuilds will appear? |
| [23:26:00] | ByteNik: | le sigh... what causes sound to buffer underrun? |
| [23:26:00] | ByteNik: | this is still my problem from two / three months ago |
| [23:29:00] | primeministerp (~ppouliot@130.57.22.69) Quit ("Client exiting") | |
| [23:29:00] | primeministerp (~ppouliot@130.57.22.69) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:30:00] | ikaro: | . |
| [23:33:00] | hadees: | .. |
| [23:33:00] | ikaro: | :> |
| [23:33:00] | hadees: | ::>> |
| [23:34:00] | Cromz: | <: d: |
| [23:34:00] | ikaro: | ::>><:dd:: |
| [23:35:00] | Cromz: | k so mythmusic is gonna drive me to drink alot tonight / today.. damn the id3 tags.. lol |
| [23:35:00] | mini-morfic: | Spida: see when cardoe is around |
| [23:37:00] | ikaro: | anyone with gmail accounts that had problems with the sourceforge mailing lists ? |
| [23:37:00] | joshe: | ikaro: Sometimes I miss messages and also they take forever to get to me on gmail. |
| [23:37:00] | ikaro: | hmm |
| [23:38:00] | ikaro: | right .. my emails get sendt but never show up |
| [23:38:00] | joshe: | Which list? |
| [23:38:00] | ikaro: | several .. |
| [23:38:00] | ikaro: | ivtv, mythtv-users, directfb and so on |
| [23:40:00] | ByteNik: | uhhh |
| [23:40:00] | ByteNik: | any idea why modprobe can't find ivtv? |
| [23:41:00] | ByteNik: | I just make install'd it |
| [23:41:00] | ByteNik: | its right there in /lib/modules/2.6.11.7/ivtv |
| [23:41:00] | ByteNik: | its /lib/modules/2.6.11.7/ivtv/ivtv.ko |
| [23:41:00] | ByteNik: | but modprobe says it can't find it... |
| [23:41:00] | [M-M]: | depmod -a ? |
| [23:41:00] | ByteNik: | nope. :P |
| [23:41:00] | ByteNik: | tried that |
| [23:42:00] | [M-M]: | rats :) |
| [23:42:00] | [M-M]: | that is the kernel you're running ? |
| [23:43:00] | ByteNik: | yep |
| [23:43:00] | ByteNik: | oh, duh... i just got it. |
| [23:43:00] | ByteNik: | wrong ssh window. :P |
| [23:43:00] | ByteNik: | lol |
| [23:43:00] | [M-M]: | haha |
| [23:43:00] | [M-M]: | details.... ;) |
| [23:46:00] | ByteNik: | ookay now, what does "prebuffering pause" mean? |
| [23:46:00] | ByteNik: | i changed channels and its spewing it out like crazy. |
| [23:47:00] | Spida: | mini-morfic: thx |
| [23:48:00] | AdamW (~adamw@S01060004e2b2d013.vc.shawcable.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [23:48:00] | mini-morfic: | im waiting for it myself, if i wasnt working on boost right now id do me my own 0.18 till cardoe gets to it |
| [23:48:00] | ikaro: | i can listen to the sound of the channels, but cant tune it .. just static, anyone knows what might be wrong? |
| [23:49:00] | ByteNik: | okay, who wants to take a guess.... do you think a celeron-d 2.8 ghz can simultaneously software decode hdtv and encode ntsc from a bt878 card? |
| [23:50:00] | ** [M-M] guesses no, but really has no idea ** | |
| [23:50:00] | ByteNik: | i'd guess no too. ^^ |
| [23:51:00] | ByteNik: | hmmph |
| [23:52:00] | [M-M]: | aw, figures... just after I update my box to latest CVS, more cool changes go in :/ |
| [23:53:00] | leOn (~xxx@a81-84-73-58.netcabo.pt) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:53:00] | mini-morfic: | [M-M]: not gonna hurt upgrading, would it? |
| [23:54:00] | [M-M]: | no... just that I want the newer stuff now :) but I have recordings starting in about half an hour...not enough time to upgrade again |
| [23:54:00] | leOn: | hello .. i'm having some trouble setting up lirc .. i've tried the ivtv channel but there's no activity |
| [23:54:00] | [M-M]: | maybe I'll do it tomorrow |
| [23:54:00] | leOn: | wonder if someone could help me out |
| [23:55:00] | ikaro: | leon, which distro ? |
| [23:55:00] | leOn: | debian |
| [23:55:00] | ikaro: | 2 sek |
| [23:55:00] | leOn: | testing |
| [23:56:00] | ikaro: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=debian267 |
| [23:56:00] | ikaro: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=LircdConf |
| [23:56:00] | ikaro: | try those .. |
| [23:56:00] | ByteNik: | yah, okay, this "prebuffering pause" issue is the thing killing me |
| [23:56:00] | leOn: | thanks |
| [23:56:00] | leOn: | =) |
| [23:57:00] | ikaro: | saa7115: decoder disable output |
| [23:57:00] | ikaro: | saa7115: decoder enable output |
| [23:57:00] | ikaro: | goes on .. and on .. and on |
IRC Logs collected by
BeirdoBot.
Please use the above link to report any bugs.
