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Tuesday, April 12th, 2005, 00:08 UTC
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[00:08:00] mechtn__: ok
[00:08:00] mechtn__: i went in and this time instead of seeing the picture with the colors off
[00:08:00] mechtn__: i had just a green background
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[00:09:00] StringBlade: what card do you have?
[00:12:00] mini-morfic: man this no audio through /dev/video0 and only through lineout tvcard <-> linein sndcard patchcable thing is gonna drive me crazy, i wouldnt call the bttv docs to be of too much help, works, just not w/o linein
[00:13:00] StringBlade: sucks mini-morifc
[00:14:00] mechtn_: i have the ati tv wonder pro
[00:15:00] StringBlade: mechtn: I don't suppose it produces mpg output on /dev/video0?
[00:15:00] StringBlade: I'm not familiar with that card
[00:16:00] mechtn_: i do not know
[00:16:00] mechtn_: i'm a windows person.. linux is all new to me
[00:16:00] mechtn_: i can get around if you can tell me what to do
[00:16:00] StringBlade: good luck with myth then
[00:17:00] StringBlade: you'll need a fair amount of linux knowledge — nothing that's unlearnable, but it certainly helps in discussions
[00:17:00] StringBlade: do you have a file '/dev/video0' ?
[00:18:00] mechtn__: hrm let me check
[00:18:00] mini-morfic: StringBlade: mind looking over some lsmod/dmesg/lspci/xawtv output see if you notice something out of the ordinary?
[00:18:00] mechtn__: i dont have a remote
[00:18:00] mechtn__: what keyboard command exits mythfrontend
[00:19:00] StringBlade: esc
[00:19:00] StringBlade: until you get to the prompt
[00:19:00] StringBlade: then choose 'yes'
[00:19:00] StringBlade: :)
[00:19:00] mechtn__: hehe i do it and nothing happens
[00:19:00] mechtn__: i have to use alt-tab to get to x-chat
[00:19:00] StringBlade: if enter doesn't work, try ctrl-enter
[00:20:00] mechtn__: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:
[00:21:00] StringBlade: hmm
[00:21:00] StringBlade: I've heard of that problem before, but I've never seen it
[00:21:00] StringBlade: and don't know the solution
[00:21:00] StringBlade: I'd check the myth mailing list
[00:21:00] StringBlade: http://gossamer-threads/lists/mythtv/users
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[00:22:00] mechtn__: i do have a /dev/video
[00:22:00] mechtn__: and a /dev/video0
[00:22:00] xris: mechtn__: that error means you're running different versions of back and frontend.
[00:22:00] mechtn__: hrm thats wierd
[00:23:00] mechtn__: i did the apt-get mythtv-sutie install
[00:23:00] xris: do you perhaps have a hand-compiled copy somewhere?
[00:23:00] mechtn__: nope
[00:23:00] xris: rpm -qa | grep mythtv
[00:24:00] mechtn__: is there a paste site i can use
[00:24:00] xris: just look at the version numbers
[00:24:00] xris: but you could use pastebin.ca
[00:24:00] StringBlade: or pastebin.com
[00:25:00] mechtn__: both backend and frontend is -0.17–97.2.rhfc3.at
[00:25:00] xris: StringBlade: pastebin.ca has more syntax highlighting options.
[00:25:00] StringBlade: ah
[00:25:00] StringBlade: cool
[00:25:00] xris: mechtn__: reboot?
[00:25:00] StringBlade: those Canadians — always thinkin
[00:25:00] mechtn__: ya i'll try another reboot
[00:25:00] xris: StringBlade: pastebin.com also calls itself "php pastebin"... so I don't know what to think about that.
[00:25:00] mechtn__: i already did once
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[00:26:00] StringBlade: xris: it does have the annoying habit of putting <?php at the top of the pasted content
[00:26:00] mechtn_: ok there it goes for a reboot
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[00:26:00] xris: .com also seems to be down atm.
[00:27:00] StringBlade: meh, I only knew about the .com
[00:27:00] StringBlade: I"ll use .ca from now on
[00:27:00] StringBlade: it's less to type ;)
[00:28:00] StringBlade: xris: any idea why setting mythfrontend as suid would still not let me run priority threads?
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[00:31:00] xris: StringBlade: no clue
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[00:32:00] mechtn__: ok back
[00:32:00] mechtn__: the backend starts up on bootup
[00:32:00] mechtn__: what should i run first to check out everything or is there anything to run
[00:32:00] mechtn__: or should i just do mythtvfront at the terminal prompt
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[00:33:00] StringBlade: just fire up myth — see if it works
[00:34:00] xris: just run mythfrontend
[00:34:00] mechtn__: ok here goes
[00:34:00] mechtn_: ok the prescaling images flew
[00:35:00] StringBlade: it'll usually do that after the first time
[00:35:00] mechtn_: ok sweet, i got video
[00:35:00] mechtn_: the colors are way off
[00:36:00] mechtn_: and i dont think i got any sound :(
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[02:12:00] jmblack: cd ..
[02:12:00] jmblack: oops
[02:14:00] jmblack: when you have to 'make distclean' for the main mythtv is is always necessary to make distclean for the plugins? mythmusic/mythgame etc?
[02:15:00] jmblack: err.. is it
[02:16:00] TheAsp: probably
[02:16:00] jmblack: I assume it is, though the reasoning behind it is about a clear as mud :)
[02:16:00] TheAsp: the reason is that c++ sucks balls. :)
[02:16:00] jmblack: laf
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[02:21:00] jmblack: is the mfd/mfe stuff yet usable within myth?
[02:21:00] jmblack: as I understand them they are still standalone apps...
[02:25:00] mchou: jmblack: what exactly are the mfd/mfe?
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[02:29:00] jmblack: basically, a music server and player respectively... using the same protocol that ITunes uses to share music between machines...
[02:30:00] jmblack: but as I understand it (and I dont understand much :) mfe is the only player that can read from teh mfd (cept itunes of course) and mfe doesnt yet sport a full gui
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[02:44:00] jmblack: hrm, FC3, mythcvs, in mythfrontend (GANT) my fonts are cut off at the bottom. (letters like y get the tails chopped) I assume this is a FC3 issue but I cant seem to find anything in the archive (yet..)
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[02:54:00] jemarcks_: is knoppmyth better than FC3 + MythTv?
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[02:56:00] jmblack: well... less setup with knoppmyth, better is a matter of opinion
[02:57:00] jmblack: see the faq in the topic...
[02:57:00] jemarcks_: jmblack: i dread the maint/setup needed. are the mythtv features the same?
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[03:06:00] mr_hoople: anybody got a sec? strange problem with scheduled recordings
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[03:10:00] jmblack: found the font problem... and fixed... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . dora;#123099
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[03:36:00] geckofiend: jmblack you're probably not running at 100dpi what does "xdpyinfo | grep inch" report?
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[03:38:00] xris: geckofiend: you're lower case.
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[03:38:00] ServerSage: Does anybody here know how to get sound from a Hauppauge PVR250?  :)
[03:39:00] xris: ServerSage: generally, it just works.
[03:40:00] GotD0t: actually no it doesnt generally just work
[03:40:00] GotD0t: well
[03:40:00] GotD0t: not right out of the box
[03:40:00] GotD0t: its not hard
[03:40:00] ServerSage: Hehe. We have disention in the ranks.  :)
[03:40:00] GotD0t: but you do have to set somethign up
[03:40:00] ServerSage: Do you know what I have to setup GotD0t?
[03:40:00] GotD0t: i dont remember what i had to do
[03:40:00] GotD0t: but its on the mythv wiki
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[03:43:00] emes: is .18 coming soon?
[03:43:00] xris: emes: yes
[03:43:00] xris: some last-minute bug fixes had to go in.
[03:43:00] emes: ok
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[03:52:00] ServerSage: I'm sooooo frustrated. I can get video on my PVR250, but not audio.
[03:53:00] ServerSage: What lord, WHAT AM I MISSING? Hehe.
[03:53:00] GotD0t: hmm can you get any other audio out
[03:53:00] ServerSage: Yeah, I can play MP3s using aplay, and if I boot into KDE it gives me sound.
[03:54:00] ServerSage: But alas, my PVR250 doesn't like me. This thing doesn't have a "line out", and the mythsetup doesn't give an option of an audio device when you pick PVR250 as the encoder card.
[03:54:00] GotD0t: it doesnt need a line out
[03:54:00] TheAsp: do you have all the modules loaded?
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[03:54:00] TheAsp: (is there one for the audio part)
[03:55:00] GotD0t: you need to patch certain modules usually
[03:55:00] GotD0t: like i said... check the wiki on mythtv
[03:55:00] ServerSage: Hmm, perhaps I don't have a btaudio module.
[03:55:00] GotD0t: thats where i read how to do it
[03:56:00] mini-morfic: might 0.18 have better alsa support, like listing alsa devices instead of just /dev/dsp* ?
[03:56:00] GreyFoxx: ServerSage: The PVR250 does not require any btmodules
[03:56:00] ServerSage: GreyFoxx – perhaps that is my problem. What modules does it use?
[03:57:00] GreyFoxx: The ivtv modules
[03:57:00] rpete: isn't this usually a symptom of the wrong msp3400?
[03:57:00] GotD0t: like i said
[03:57:00] GreyFoxx: rpete: Yup
[03:58:00] ServerSage: GotD0t – I'm headed there. Hehe. People keep giving suggestions.
[03:58:00] ** rpete just going from experience, wanted confirmation **
[03:58:00] GreyFoxx: ServerSage: Search /lib/modules/yourkernelversion and look for 2 msp3400's
[03:58:00] GotD0t: right
[03:58:00] GreyFoxx: The one from the kernel is likely being loaded when in fact you want the one that comes with th eivtv modules
[04:00:00] ServerSage: I have one in drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko – that is the only one.
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[04:00:00] sung: hola
[04:00:00] sung: question
[04:00:00] sung: how do you add another directory to mythtv's search path
[04:00:00] GreyFoxx: ServerSage: Where is the ivtv modules ?
[04:00:00] sung: when it's looking for mp3s and whatnot
[04:01:00] rpete: ServerSage, you're just using your distro default modules? you'll probably want to dl and compile ckennedy's newer stuff, and remove the older ones
[04:03:00] rpete: sung, only takes a single path if i recall, so you'd maybe use symlinks under the single base
[04:03:00] ServerSage: Where can I get the ckennedy stuff?
[04:03:00] rpete: http://205.209.168.201/~ckennedy/ivtv/
[04:03:00] GeckoFiend: sung there's only one root dir for music files. if you need more then symlink the extra directories under the music root dir
[04:04:00] sung: thanks guys
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[04:05:00] Mrgoose: yo
[04:05:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo
[04:05:00] mishehu: I hope you're not one of those canadian geese
[04:05:00] mini-morfic: i wish i could get audio from the msp3435g b6 all i am still having is tvcard lineout to sndcard linein :/
[04:05:00] Mrgoose: heh
[04:05:00] mishehu: coming to poop green stuff on the channel
[04:05:00] mishehu: heh
[04:05:00] GotD0t: geese are mean
[04:06:00] GotD0t: they dont like cats
[04:06:00] Mrgoose: heh
[04:06:00] GotD0t: well
[04:06:00] Mrgoose: geese are a pest here
[04:06:00] GotD0t: one did
[04:06:00] ServerSage: Emerging the ivtv stuff as I type this.
[04:06:00] ** Beirdo poops on the channel **
[04:06:00] GotD0t: one liked it so much it ate a kitten
[04:06:00] Mrgoose: they are they family walk across the street, and block traffic
[04:06:00] Mrgoose: you get fined if you hit one
[04:06:00] GotD0t: it like bit its ear off
[04:06:00] GotD0t: i was like holy shit
[04:07:00] Mrgoose: Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
[04:07:00] Mrgoose: oops
[04:07:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo: which script in nuvexport asks this Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
[04:07:00] Mrgoose: Where would you like to export the files to? [.]
[04:07:00] Mrgoose: i cant find it in mpeg2cut
[04:07:00] Beirdo: grep...
[04:07:00] Mrgoose: ?
[04:07:00] Beirdo: it's in the main part of the scripts.
[04:07:00] Beirdo: use grep
[04:08:00] Mrgoose: grep -i 'export the files' *.*
[04:08:00] Mrgoose: root@MythBox:/home/mythuser/nuvexport-0.2#
[04:08:00] Mrgoose: nope
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[04:09:00] Beirdo: what's this *.* crap?
[04:09:00] Beirdo: this isn't windows
[04:09:00] Mrgoose: heh
[04:09:00] Beirdo: and you'll have to look in the subdirectories too
[04:09:00] Mrgoose: oh ok
[04:09:00] ServerSage: Do I need bttv at all with a PVR250?
[04:09:00] GreyFoxx: ServerSage: No
[04:09:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo: word found it
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[04:14:00] ServerSage: I love every single one of you in this room right now!
[04:15:00] ServerSage: emerge ivtv, modify my kernel-2.6 file, modules-update, and BAM! I have sound!
[04:15:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[04:15:00] ServerSage: I searched and searched and searched for this info. I couldn't find it anywhere.
[04:15:00] rpete: really?
[04:15:00] GreyFoxx: That'll be $5
[04:15:00] ServerSage: Really. But I was getting frustrated while looking, which didn't help at all.
[04:15:00] ServerSage: Hehe. GreyFoxx – give me an address and I'll happily pay it.
[04:16:00] rpete: well I went through the same thing
[04:16:00] rpete: very frustrating
[04:16:00] ServerSage: VERY frustrating indeed rpete.
[04:16:00] ServerSage: Thanks a ton. Much appreciated.
[04:16:00] rpete: nearly threw the computer out the window if I recall
[04:16:00] ServerSage: I'd have you guys over for a beer if you lived in my neighborhood.
[04:16:00] jmblack: we might...
[04:16:00] ServerSage: Houghton, Michigan? Hehe.
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[04:21:00] mechtn_: ok the color is off pretty bad
[04:22:00] mechtn_: i dont have a remote so i have to use the keyboard to change channels
[04:22:00] mechtn_: but thats no big deal
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[04:25:00] mechtn_: how do i change from RTJPEG to MPEG-4
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[04:43:00] mini-morfic: how do i tell mythtv about another alsa device other than default ( ALSA:default ) hw:1,0 would be the syntax most apps would be looking for i think, ALSA:hw:1,0 isnt accepted by mythtv
[04:44:00] mini-morfic: btw who here uses snd-bt87x and could share some experience with that module?
[04:46:00] ** defaultro is researching on how he can record discovery hd :P **
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[04:47:00] membreya: quick question guys, is there any reason why mythtv-setup has the option for scan channels greyed out?
[04:48:00] amax: mythtv doesnt scan for channels
[04:48:00] amax: you need xmltv or datadirect for that
[04:48:00] membreya: then why's the option there? :|
[04:48:00] defaultro: scan for channels if you are using dvb like me
[04:48:00] defaultro: that will get enabled
[04:48:00] amax: for the future? :)
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[04:48:00] membreya: ooooh :)
[04:49:00] membreya: just that all my TV comes in through one cable input
[04:49:00] membreya: and the channels are changed through a cable box :|
[04:49:00] membreya: so without knowing the frequency it's impossible to setup
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[04:50:00] GreyFoxx: You wont need to know the frequencies if the tuning is done on the cable box
[04:50:00] GreyFoxx: just keep your tuner on channel 3/4 and control the cable box to set the channel
[04:53:00] defaultro: GreyFoxx, are you capturing HD content?
[04:53:00] GreyFoxx: nope
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[05:00:00] membreya: ok, stupid question GreyFoxx but just how to I set it to channel 3/4?
[05:00:00] man_in_shack: does anyone have a compro videomate dvb-t300?
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[05:03:00] mechtn: QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range
[05:03:00] mechtn: anyone know whats up with this
[05:03:00] mechtn: the color is way off when i do watch tv
[05:06:00] mechtn: mythtv: could not connect to socket
[05:06:00] mechtn: mythtv: No such file or directory
[05:06:00] mechtn: lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages
[05:06:00] mechtn: anyone know whats up with these
[05:07:00] membreya: means lirc isn't configured
[05:07:00] mechtn: thats for the remote right?
[05:07:00] mechtn: cuase i dont have a remote
[05:07:00] membreya: yes it is
[05:07:00] membreya: so you don't gotta worry
[05:07:00] mechtn: the color looks like its missing green
[05:08:00] mechtn: whats the mythtv: socket and file error
[05:08:00] membreya: it's lirc
[05:08:00] mechtn: oh ok
[05:08:00] mechtn: any idea what the color might be ?
[05:09:00] agent_sx: hello all
[05:10:00] agent_sx: anyone have a asus tv fm card working with mythtv
[05:11:00] agent_sx: ?
[05:12:00] mechtn: not i
[05:14:00] mechtn: lcd doesnt make a difference right?
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[05:23:00] opello: in nuvexport, what does 'enabling the myth cuelist' do? chop out commercials from the output?
[05:23:00] opello: i'd really just like to get the video out of the nuv...
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[05:29:00] defaultro: anyone records hd content such as discovery or espn hd?
[05:30:00] defaultro: WBBM CBS2 Chicago Has applied for change of Digital Channel to UHF band
[05:30:00] defaultro: this change expect to see in next 2 years, pending FCC approval.
[05:30:00] defaultro: this is cool
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[05:31:00] Cardoe: defaultro: why's that cool?
[05:31:00] defaultro: because it's currently at VHF
[05:31:00] defaultro: and their broadcast is so weak
[05:32:00] defaultro: VHF are sometimes hard to capture
[05:32:00] mini-morfic: hey Cardoe, you wouldnt have a magic potion up your sleeve which makes this BT878 based wintv work with muxed audio instead of needing a patch cable from tvcard line out to sndcard line in
[05:33:00] mechtn: is there a file on my capture card somewhere i need to edit to setup the color options?
[05:33:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: alsa bt8xx
[05:33:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: but note. Not all cards will work that way.
[05:34:00] mini-morfic: i now have snd-bt87x loaded but dont quite know how to tell mythtv about it
[05:34:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: /dev/dsp1
[05:34:00] Cardoe: cause /dev/dsp0 should be your sound card
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[05:34:00] Cardoe: alsamixer -c 1
[05:34:00] Cardoe: try that
[05:34:00] mini-morfic: i googled and found a fedora thread talking about how the audio device lspci shows should be usable with this driver
[05:35:00] mini-morfic: yeah it is there
[05:36:00] Cardoe: ok
[05:36:00] Cardoe: use /dev/dsp1
[05:36:00] Cardoe: set the device to capture in alsamixer
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[05:37:00] mini-morfic: set to capture
[05:38:00] mini-morfic: what mixer /dev/mixer1?
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[05:39:00] mini-morfic: i must be missing some aliasing no /dev/dsp1 device
[05:42:00] mechtn: i'm trying to do some searching on the archives
[05:42:00] defaultro: Cardoe, fyi, I just ordered today an spdif connector :)
[05:42:00] mechtn: what do you call it when you just hit Watch Tv
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[05:42:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: what should the /etc/modules.d/snd-bt87x look like for that module, i pasted what was in the kernel docs, but i guess that aint enough
[05:43:00] rpete: mechtn, try livetv
[05:43:00] defaultro: hi rpete, how are you?
[05:43:00] rpete: hi defaultro
[05:43:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: lemme peek
[05:44:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: is your /etc/modules.d/alsa setup right?
[05:44:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: for 2 cards?
[05:44:00] mechtn: ok, my color is way off
[05:44:00] mechtn: so i'm trying to do research about it
[05:44:00] Cardoe: pre-install snd-bt87x modprobe snd-emu10k1
[05:44:00] Cardoe: only special thing I've got
[05:45:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: that i just noticed looking in there to be ready to answer any questions, yeah i got a little frustrated and didnt notice when i aded the snd-bt87x earlier
[05:45:00] defaultro: question guys, let say, I install another air2pc capture card. Let say, air2pc card 1 is recording a program. Now, we select livetv. Does mythtv already know that it needs to use air2pc card 2?
[05:45:00] Cardoe: defaultro: yes
[05:46:00] defaultro: oh ok
[05:46:00] defaultro: that's cool
[05:46:00] Cardoe: defaultro: it uses the first available non-busy card
[05:46:00] riksta: mechtn: press G and adjust the colour?
[05:46:00] mini-morfic: right now i have it all monolithic, something gave me unknown symbol i2c-* errors on modprobing bttv, so to avoid the stress made a fat kernel
[05:46:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: you need i2c bit bang
[05:46:00] defaultro: question about broadcast bit on 7/1. Does it also affect non-local HD?
[05:47:00] riksta: hey Cardoe
[05:47:00] riksta: do you have some updated myth cvs ebuilds at all
[05:47:00] Cardoe: hey
[05:47:00] Cardoe: not right now
[05:47:00] riksta: IIRC you are the ebuild guy for myth?
[05:47:00] Cardoe: I'm without a system
[05:47:00] Cardoe: My laptop blew up
[05:47:00] riksta: oh shit, bad luck
[05:47:00] defaultro: i should backup my laptop too
[05:47:00] Cardoe: Dell shipped the new one I got to the wrong address
[05:47:00] defaultro: it's making sound now
[05:47:00] defaultro: oh no
[05:47:00] Cardoe: defaultro: read my blog.
[05:47:00] defaultro: it got to the wrong address
[05:48:00] Cardoe: Yeah well UPS has it again
[05:48:00] Cardoe: but now Dell are fuck tards
[05:48:00] defaultro: great
[05:48:00] mechtn: how can i tell if i'm using cx88 or btvv
[05:48:00] Cardoe: and they're sending it to my parents address
[05:48:00] defaultro: and is that a state away
[05:48:00] riksta: oh my god
[05:48:00] riksta: you think some lucky dude has got a new laptop? :)
[05:48:00] Cardoe: nope
[05:48:00] Cardoe: UPS got it back
[05:48:00] riksta: ah
[05:48:00] riksta: lucky
[05:49:00] riksta: i'd have gone on "holiday"
[05:49:00] Cardoe: Basically they never made the delivery
[05:49:00] Cardoe: It was on the delivery truck
[05:49:00] riksta: ahh ic
[05:49:00] Cardoe: but no attempt to deliver was made
[05:49:00] defaultro: btw, do you know any new cool theme other than the ones that comes with the installer?
[05:49:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: got i2c bit bang which is why i was suprised to see anything i2c related, i mean it worked smooth modprobe bttv finds card tuner MSP3435 soundchip (yes the snd-bt87x is just plan b)
[05:49:00] Cardoe: snd-bt87x should be plan a
[05:49:00] defaultro: i like the theme that is used in Tivo
[05:49:00] mini-morfic: mythtv is so nice im a little frustrated i got no sound from it :)
[05:49:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: Hauppauge WinTV card?
[05:50:00] defaultro: Cardoe, did you see 24 a while ago?
[05:50:00] Cardoe: missed it
[05:50:00] riksta: i've been having totally horrific problems with my BTTV card at the moment
[05:50:00] defaultro: it's cool
[05:50:00] riksta: im getting mad IRQ lockups
[05:50:00] riksta: in dmesg
[05:50:00] riksta: and it locks the system hard
[05:50:00] Cardoe: riksta: odd
[05:50:00] riksta: i've never got them before, and i've never added any new devices or even changed kernel
[05:50:00] defaultro: however, i got lost when they called the bag as football
[05:50:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: yes, sec http://voxnet.dyndns.org:5003/clipboard/?board=2546
[05:51:00] riksta: i even tried ANOTHER card, i had two of the same one
[05:51:00] riksta: i have run out of ideas
[05:52:00] mini-morfic: well recompiling kernel i dont like giving up but going monolithic let me try a few more things
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[05:53:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: what sound card do you have?
[05:53:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: you asked if i had my /etc/modules.d/alsa correct, it basically is the asa file for my sound card plus added stuff from the alsa docs for snd-bt87x
[05:53:00] mini-morfic: santa cruz
[05:53:00] mechtn: i must be on everyone's ignore
[05:53:00] mini-morfic: the asoundrc is from the alsa-project.org docs site and only 2 short entried
[05:54:00] mini-morfic: mechtn: bttv should be if it shows you a bt878 or older chip, i suppose lspci might give clues
[05:54:00] mechtn: is there any instructions anywhere to figure out which chip i have etc
[05:54:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: http://pastebin.ca/9382
[05:54:00] mini-morfic: but i really should tackle this baby before i give advice ;)
[05:55:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: switch make sure # cards @ the bottom is 2
[05:55:00] Cardoe: mechtn: lspci
[05:55:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: and pre-install snd-bt87x modprobe snd-emu10k1
[05:56:00] Cardoe: but obviously rather then SB Live module... it's your other module.
[05:56:00] Cardoe: If you're getting errors about i2c
[05:56:00] Cardoe: you're missing stuff
[05:57:00] mini-morfic: "preinstall" ?
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[05:57:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: http://pastebin.ca/9383
[05:58:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: yes.
[05:58:00] tetsuo__: has anybody had success with the pvr 150?
[05:58:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: prior to having the snd-bt87x driver modprobed make sure to have your real SND card modprobed
[05:58:00] Cardoe: tetsuo__: tons on the ivtv-devel site
[05:59:00] tetsuo__: i can get video and sound, it's just the video is off-center, and about 1/3 of the picture is cut off, has anybody heard/seen this?
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[06:00:00] mini-morfic: ok, off for a new test
[06:00:00] Esuirin: Warning at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 304:
[06:00:00] Esuirin: copy(image_cache/1037_20050401002800_20050401010000.nuv.png): failed to open stream: Permission denied
[06:00:00] Esuirin: ?
[06:01:00] tetsuo__: check the permissions
[06:01:00] Cardoe: tetsuo__: firmware check
[06:01:00] ** mini-morfic heard his rebooting machine turn on the speakers and goes look if bttv loaded **
[06:01:00] tetsuo__: did you run it as root once, and now as a regular non-root user?
[06:02:00] mechtn: lspci shows a card called
[06:02:00] mechtn: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP
[06:02:00] mechtn: the manufacturer is ATI
[06:02:00] mini-morfic: no errors, good sign
[06:02:00] mechtn: its an ATI TV wonder pro
[06:02:00] Cardoe: mechtn: modulize bttv and cx88 and test both. 1 will fail. I bet that card is a cx88 though
[06:03:00] mini-morfic: http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/bttv/bttv-gallery.html that list is pretty cool, too bad mine isnt in there :)
[06:04:00] Esuirin: tetsuo__, are you asking me about non-root thing?
[06:06:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: still get '/dev/dsp1 no such device'
[06:07:00] Cardoe: lsmod shows snd-bt87x?
[06:07:00] Cardoe: dmesg has any references?
[06:07:00] Esuirin: tetsuo__, i just restarted mythbackend w/root, same error
[06:07:00] Esuirin: w/mythweb
[06:07:00] mechtn: cardie, how do you modulize?
[06:07:00] mechtn: i'm running a tvcardoptions script
[06:07:00] mechtn: and i can see picture
[06:07:00] mechtn: but every single one is so blurry and missing colors
[06:08:00] Beirdo: SON OF A BITCH!
[06:08:00] Beirdo: I've been chasing a bug in my code for a day or so
[06:08:00] Beirdo: turns out that I named my function decodeMP3
[06:08:00] mechtn: the brightness settings are 100% in xawtv and i cant turn them down
[06:08:00] Beirdo: and libmp3lame has a function called that
[06:09:00] Beirdo: so when I did lame_decode, it recursively called the function by mistake
[06:09:00] Beirdo: now to take out all my bullshit debugging :)
[06:11:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: http://voxnet.dyndns.org:5003/clipboard/?board=2559
[06:12:00] mini-morfic: Beirdo: printf style debugging?
[06:13:00] Beirdo: yeah, buttloads of it
[06:13:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: hey
[06:13:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: snd_bt87x isn't depending on anything
[06:13:00] Beirdo: Heya :)
[06:13:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: how ya been?
[06:13:00] Beirdo: tired, etc. :) But not bad
[06:15:00] Cardoe: I'm trying to get a new system
[06:15:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: http://voxnet.dyndns.org:5003/clipboard/?board=2560
[06:15:00] Beirdo: heh
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[06:16:00] Cardoe: options snd cards_limit=2 4,1 All ???
[06:16:00] Cardoe: do you see anything in dmesg from snd_bt87x?
[06:16:00] Cardoe: it's gotta be higher up
[06:16:00] Cardoe: then what ya sent me
[06:16:00] Cardoe: it's gonna be where alsa initializing
[06:17:00] rpete: I've got a combination of nvidia driver, pvr250 and kt600 that I think is unstable
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[06:19:00] mini-morfic: it shows no sound cards in where ALSA initializes in kernel, sound works fine here however (same for the cs46xx driver not showing in dmesg)
[06:19:00] mini-morfic: sound of cs46xx works i mean
[06:19:00] mini-morfic: it shows both loaded when i boot monolithic kernel only
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[06:22:00] Beirdo: OK, getting somewhere
[06:23:00] Beirdo: now the lame_decode works, and the lame_encode is still borked :)
[06:25:00] mini-morfic: ok, back making fully modularized krnel
[06:26:00] riksta: any java gurus in here?
[06:26:00] riksta: hey Beirdo
[06:26:00] riksta: i'm on an all nighter, doing java deadline this morning :(
[06:27:00] Beirdo: fun
[06:27:00] Beirdo: no java for me
[06:27:00] riksta: i am stressing
[06:27:00] Mrgoose: hrmm
[06:28:00] Mrgoose: Beirdo: heh i thought your Directory creator part
[06:28:00] Mrgoose: was bash script
[06:28:00] Mrgoose: seems its not
[06:28:00] Mrgoose: im tryin to create part of a script that asks where you would like to extract something to
[06:32:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe: added bt87x to asoundrc but instead of card 0 i did card 1, would that be right?
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[06:45:00] Cardoe: mini-morfic: yes
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[06:46:00] mini-morfic: still nothing and no /dev/dsp1 yet
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[06:47:00] mini-morfic: options snd cards_limit=2 4,1 All <--- no idea about the junk after =2 that is not in the file
[06:50:00] mini-morfic: im afraid ill only be able to use that patch cable through line then :/
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[06:50:00] abarbaccia: anybody here use irxevent w a hauppauge remote and want to send me their .lircrc file to save me a chunk of time?
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[06:53:00] cold_boot: hello
[06:53:00] mcmay: Is this a good place to ask about nuvexport?
[06:54:00] cold_boot: i' having problems my frontend doesn;t want to schedule programs
[06:54:00] ** xris is unimpressed with ffmpeg's xvid export **
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[06:54:00] Beirdo: works fine for me, xris
[06:54:00] Beirdo: :)
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[06:55:00] ** xris is picky **
[06:55:00] Cardoe: transcode all the way
[06:55:00] Cardoe: how's the aspect ratio stuff?
[06:56:00] xris: will have to see how transcode handles mpeg2 files
[06:56:00] mini-morfic: transcode is the reason this XP3200 is back on gentoo, after a while of wifebehappy XP Pro only
[06:56:00] mini-morfic: xris: well enough to create dvdable mpeg2, figuring out all the options is the biggest pain
[06:57:00] xris: mini-morfic: I don't care about dvd. waste of space, if you ask me.
[06:57:00] mini-morfic: and for best compatability it is best to fill in the letterbox physically, or well that is who i solved making some picky set top dvd players happy
[06:57:00] xris: can fit 27 half hour xvid shows on a dvd.
[06:58:00] opello: how do i just get an mpeg, complete with commercials from my nuv? i have a pvr-500 with a hardware encoder
[06:58:00] mini-morfic: xris: well one tip, if you dont want to deal with having to get the input settings right use -x mplayer, unless you already do that
[06:58:00] xris: opello: learn to use mv
[06:58:00] stoffel_: opello: mv movie.nuv movie.mpeg
[06:58:00] opello: xris: i thought the nuv had 'other stuff' in it
[06:58:00] mini-morfic: so is ebaying a pvr-150 worth it, or should i rather not cause it might not work any better than this free older bt878 based card?
[06:59:00] xris: opello: you don't have nupplevideo files.
[06:59:00] ** xris curses the devs (again) for not naming the mpeg files .mpg **
[06:59:00] xris: opello: if you have a hardware encoder, they're plain old mpg files unless you transcode them.
[06:59:00] opello: yippie
[07:00:00] mcmay: Is there a good list of transcode commands? I can't make much sense of it, and nuvexport isn't helping, either.
[07:00:00] xris: mcmay: tons. why's why I wrote nuvexport. it's a huge pain to do it manually.
[07:00:00] mcmay: hmm. Can you tell me why nuvexport would be producing 0-byte files?
[07:00:00] mini-morfic: i mean i could watch on this one and record on the other
[07:01:00] mini-morfic: does mplayer pay nuv files?
[07:01:00] xris: mcmay: search the mailing list archives for how to use --debug, and then you will probably figure it out.
[07:01:00] xris: mini-morfic: nupplevideo, no.
[07:01:00] xris: well, sort of. not the mythtv ones (they're extended nupplevideo)
[07:01:00] mini-morfic: xris: damn then my -x mplayer trick doesnt work there ;P
[07:02:00] xris: mini-morfic: well, many people don't have nupplevideo files anymore.
[07:04:00] mini-morfic: i wish this card was a little easier to convince to give me muxed sound from tvcard not patched through line in :/
[07:05:00] xris: mini-morfic: thus are bttv cards.
[07:06:00] mini-morfic: xris: meaning what?
[07:06:00] xris: nothing. that's just how bttv cards are.
[07:10:00] mini-morfic: looks like it
[07:10:00] mini-morfic: Cardoe's willingness to look it al over with me made me hope i could rid myself of that cable
[07:11:00] mini-morfic: i might really save for a pvr150, give this card i got free to someone who is happy with a patch cable
[07:12:00] xris: hmm, no kormoc
[07:12:00] mini-morfic: kormoc?
[07:12:00] xris: my minion.
[07:12:00] Cardoe: the VOIP conference in the topic is run by who?
[07:13:00] xris: first night at his new apartment, no internet.
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[07:13:00] xris: was going to show him that my recipe program could parse his plain-english recipe with no problem.
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[07:15:00] xris: really need to find time to work on that program
[07:15:00] cold_boot: i'm having a weird problem i can schedule with my mythfrontend on a remote system but the frontend doesn't show any upcoming programs then, anyone have this
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[07:27:00] mini-morfic: 'night, thanks for the help
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[07:39:00] cesman: hello everyone
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[07:43:00] defaultro: anyone here has an hdtv receiver?
[07:46:00] cesman: yes
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[07:47:00] defaultro: hi cesman
[07:47:00] defaultro: do you record hd?
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[07:57:00] defaultro: anyone here does hd recording via firewire?
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[11:13:00] muxx: hello, anyone awake ?
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[12:47:00] muxx: guys, can anybody answer my questions ?
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[12:55:00] phon: hello
[12:55:00] phon: anyone knows wheter it possible to start an application on a remote X display through a SSH connection ?
[12:56:00] phon: in this case i wanna be able to kill and restart the mythfrontend remotely
[12:57:00] muxx: phon> just set DISPLAY before you start the app
[12:58:00] phon: to what do i set it ?
[12:58:00] phon: set DISPLAY=0:1 ? something like this ?
[12:58:00] muxx: something like that
[12:59:00] muxx: man 7 X
[12:59:00] muxx: when you ssh on a remote machine, ssh creates a tunnel for you and sets DISPLAY accordingly
[13:00:00] phon: ok i'll try that
[13:00:00] phon: found some info about the DISPLAY variable
[13:00:00] phon: reading it now
[13:02:00] muxx: if you have just one screen, you won't need the dot
[13:03:00] phon: [mythtv@localhost ~]$ DISPLAY=:0
[13:03:00] phon: [mythtv@localhost ~]$ mythfrontend &
[13:03:00] phon: [1] 7089
[13:03:00] phon: [mythtv@localhost ~]$ mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server
[13:04:00] muxx: setting environment variables vary from shell to shell
[13:04:00] muxx: do echo $DISPLAY to check
[13:05:00] phon: its bash and it sets it correctly
[13:05:00] fridge: phon, did user mythtv start the X11 session?
[13:05:00] phon: i'm not sure, the machine boots into X11
[13:06:00] fridge: If not, you'll need to play with xauth to allow mythtv to connect to whatever user is currently controlling X11's session
[13:06:00] phon: and i got KDE set up to automatically log in user mythtv
[13:06:00] fridge: xauth extract – $DISPLAY | ssh mythtv@host xauth merge -
[13:07:00] fridge: and set up restricted password-less ssh keys
[13:07:00] fridge: that's how I've got it so that myth runs on my second head when I log in normally
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[13:07:00] phon: i got only one display
[13:08:00] phon: but the problem is that that pc running myth doesn't have a keyboard
[13:08:00] phon: and when i kill mythfrontend remotely i can't start it again
[13:09:00] phon: is this kind of the same problem you had ?
[13:09:00] fridge: while true; do mythfrontend;done
[13:09:00] fridge: :D
[13:10:00] fridge: then when it dies, it will restart automatically
[13:11:00] muxx: btw I am recalling that on some gnulinux distros TCP connections were disabled by default
[13:11:00] phon: can i put that in a shell script in KDE's Autostart dir ?
[13:13:00] phon: i think it can handle TCP connections cuz apache/time server works just fine
[13:13:00] muxx: I mean TCP connections to X
[13:14:00] muxx: -server
[13:14:00] phon: ah, ic
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[13:22:00] muxx: phon> are you sshing as user mythtv ?
[13:23:00] phon: yes
[13:23:00] muxx: phondo ps -aux and check which display X runs on
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[13:51:00] muxx: guys, can anybody answer my questions ?
[14:00:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: Just ask if someone can or wants to answer they will :)
[14:01:00] ** GreyFoxx inserts a , after ask **
[14:02:00] muxx: thanks GreyFoxx
[14:03:00] muxx: I have two questions more or less related to DB used in MythTV
[14:03:00] muxx: 1. can I have backend and frontend running on one machine, and DB server running on another machine
[14:03:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[14:04:00] muxx: how do I do it then ? can you point me to some resources on how I configure MythTV to work this way
[14:05:00] GreyFoxx: Nothing special you need to do, install mysql on the other machine, and point myth to it via the mysql.txt file that myth uses to know where the DB is
[14:05:00] muxx: cool, thanks ! 8)
[14:05:00] GreyFoxx: and of course configure mysql to accept connections from the other machine
[14:06:00] muxx: 2. can I use some other DB, for example sqlite
[14:06:00] GreyFoxx: no
[14:06:00] muxx: any other lighter alternative ?
[14:06:00] GreyFoxx: No
[14:06:00] muxx: why 8)
[14:07:00] GreyFoxx: Cause the codestarted it chose mysql :)
[14:07:00] GreyFoxx: I've seen various attempts to add postgres support or to make it more db agnostic, but nothing that's complete
[14:07:00] muxx: I know nothing about databases, sorry
[14:08:00] GreyFoxx: Mysql is not a "heavy" database anyway
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[14:08:00] muxx: well, my server is already struggling for RAM 8)
[14:08:00] GreyFoxx: Now Oracle is what I would call heavy heh
[14:08:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
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[14:09:00] muxx: ok, I guess I'l have to buy more RAM then 8)
[14:09:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[14:11:00] muxx: are USB DVB cards well supportd by MythTV ? I got my card working on my xbox-linux very well (I can record streams using tzap/cat)
[14:11:00] fridge: if it works with tzap, it should work with myth
[14:12:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: I don't know of anyone using a USB DVB device so I wouldn't knbow
[14:12:00] muxx: cool, thanks guys ! I am going to try to install both backend and frontend to my xbox and used MySQL running on another machine
[14:12:00] muxx: it provides standard interface in /dev/dvb/...
[14:13:00] GreyFoxx: then it might well work, I just don't know of anyone in particular who is using one :)
[14:13:00] muxx: cool, I am going to try. I thought that V4L is all about standard interfacing
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[14:14:00] GreyFoxx: until someone does it, I rarely assume if I can avoid it
[14:14:00] muxx: GreyFoxx> understandable
[14:15:00] muxx: thanks for your answers guys !
[14:17:00] muxx: oh, one more thing. are there any limitations on MySQL version ?
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: I think most everyone is running a recent 3.23 or 4.0x
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: I've heard a few reports of issues with 4.1, and would not be suprised if there were problems with 5.x
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: personally I use 4.0 with query caching enabled
[14:21:00] muxx: is it better than 3.23 ?
[14:22:00] GreyFoxx: That's generally the purpose of new versions :)
[14:22:00] muxx: well, in pratice newer versions can have new bugs 8)
[14:22:00] GreyFoxx: Yes, and can fix old ones, increase functionality :)
[14:23:00] muxx: okay. what I need is stability and preferably less RAM hungryness
[14:23:00] GreyFoxx: I've been using 4.0 for a long time both at home and in several work related projects and had no issues., And Query caching can make a significant improvment in speed
[14:24:00] muxx: ok, installing 4.0 now
[14:24:00] muxx: 4.0.24 to be exact (if it makes any difference)
[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: That's what I have here
[14:27:00] muxx: lets hope that running it on FreeBSD won't cause any incompatibility
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: The database? I can't imagine why it would
[14:28:00] muxx: yeah, the DB. me too
[14:31:00] cold_boot: can anyone help wme with a scheduling problem?
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[14:39:00] GeckoFiend: cold_boot what's the problem?
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[14:43:00] laga: poor GeckoFiend ;)
[14:46:00] muxx: guys, how do I install MythTV on debian if I don't want to install MySQL ?
[14:46:00] laga: you don't.
[14:46:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: You will need the mysql client libraries most likely
[14:46:00] laga: well.
[14:46:00] GreyFoxx: MySQL doesn't need to be running, but it's libraries will need to be there
[14:46:00] laga: you will at least need one mysqld ;)
[14:46:00] laga: somewhere in your network
[14:47:00] muxx: it will be on another machine
[14:47:00] muxx: mysql libraries and qt-mysql
[14:47:00] GreyFoxx: you still need the mysql client libraries on the filesystem where the binary will run
[14:47:00] GreyFoxx: yup
[14:48:00] muxx: how do I installl it then ? because it looks like debian package has all dependencies set
[14:48:00] laga: well
[14:48:00] laga: umm
[14:48:00] laga: edit the source deb? ;)
[14:48:00] GreyFoxx: muxx: you must have the mysql client libraries, therefore you must install them to use mythtv
[14:49:00] GreyFoxx: Oh, does the deb try to create the mythtv database for you as well ?
[14:49:00] muxx: I can build from sources. and I would prefer to do a minimal installation. I don't need all that DVD encoding/ogg/whatever stuff
[14:49:00] GreyFoxx: Personally I always build from source
[14:49:00] muxx: GreyFoxx> no, but I think it will try to install server as well. and I don;t need it !
[14:49:00] GreyFoxx: muxx ahh
[14:50:00] muxx: can you tell me what is the minimal list of dependencies so I can get them and build maually ?
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[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: muxx I believe they are listed in the mythtv.org docs on manually installing
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: and you can look at the README inside the mythtv source
[14:51:00] muxx: 4.3 ?
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: 4.3 what ?
[14:52:00] laga: GreyFoxx: mythtv-database creates the database, yep.
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: I'm not a mind reader :)
[14:52:00] laga: hi arg-on
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[14:53:00] muxx: sorry, "4.1 Software requirements for compiling MythTV"
[14:53:00] arg-on: hi laga! do I know you?
[14:53:00] GreyFoxx: sounds about right
[14:53:00] GreyFoxx: but it would certainly make your life easier to read it all
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[14:54:00] GreyFoxx: man I hate gather material for a presentation
[14:54:00] muxx: sure
[14:54:00] laga: arg-on: nope. but i saw your host and assumed that you are german and wondered if you're interested in joining #mythtv-de – a german channel about mythtv ;)
[14:54:00] GreyFoxx: I never know how much detail to go into or what the audience will find interesting
[14:55:00] arg-on: ahh, nice
[14:55:00] arg-on: idling both
[14:55:00] laga: GreyFoxx: make sure to use some pictures of naked women. the audience will find that interesting. :)
[14:55:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[14:56:00] GreyFoxx: Well I'm gathering info for someone else who is more creative to make into slides  :)
[14:56:00] laga: oh, hehe
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[15:04:00] mechtn: hey guys
[15:04:00] mechtn: well i never quite figured out my color problem last night
[15:04:00] mechtn: i tried xawtv and all my brightness settings were 100% and i couldnt change them
[15:05:00] mechtn: i used the findtvcardoptions.sh to see if i could figure out the options i needed to add but it still didnt help
[15:05:00] mechtn: there has to be some place in mythtv to change the brightness etc ..
[15:07:00] GeckoFiend: mechtn there is if you have the xv piscture controls turned on
[15:07:00] GeckoFiend: picture even
[15:08:00] mechtn: how do you turn that on?
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[15:08:00] mechtn: how do i determine if i'm using cx88 or bttv
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[15:13:00] Beirdo: lsmod
[15:15:00] mechtn: cx8800 33229 0
[15:15:00] mechtn: cx88xx 47957 1 cx8800
[15:15:00] mechtn: i dont see any bttv listed anywhere
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[15:17:00] mechtn: also to clarify something..
[15:17:00] FairWtns: insmod right_working_lirc
[15:17:00] mechtn: my video card supports svideo and dvi ...
[15:18:00] mechtn: thats something different than TV Tuner correct? which is my ATI TV Wonder PRO card...
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[15:20:00] FairWtns: mechtn:Tuner=Input DVI=Output (Svideo usually output also)
[15:20:00] GeckoFiend: mechtn have you looked at the settings in myth at all?
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[15:23:00] mechtn: ya i have looked at them a little
[15:23:00] mechtn: last night my picture was missing colors or something
[15:23:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: is that your VOIP stuff in the topic?
[15:23:00] mechtn: like no green was present
[15:24:00] Beirdo: the VOIP conference is mishehu's
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[15:27:00] laga: are there actually any people?
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[15:30:00] Jazon: hello everyone
[15:30:00] lucas332: hey
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[15:31:00] Jazon: I am in the process of trying to switch my HP Media Center m1080n to Linux, and was wondering if I could ask a few questions here.
[15:31:00] Jazon: relating to MythTV of course
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[15:34:00] Jazon: I have the ledtek winfast 2000 xp with tv tuner in this box along with an ATI PCI-E 300 – I see I should be able to get the winfast card working (http://www.linuxhelp.ca/guides/tvtuner/), but one issue that I have been unable to resolve is that my tv output is scrambled. I have tried in vain to remedy this.
[15:35:00] Jazon: also, will I be able to use my remote and IR extender to change channels on my sat receiver with MythTV like I did with XP MCE?
[15:38:00] lucas332: I don't know that card, but you can look at lirc for support for your remote control.
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[15:40:00] Jazon: I guess I was asking whether or not MythTV has the capability to actually DO this, assuming I can get my remote to work...
[15:42:00] lucas332: myth supports lirc.
[15:42:00] lucas332: wether myth supports your videocard is up to google.
[15:51:00] Coume: Jazon, for info about videocard: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143
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[15:58:00] candc540: hello everyone
[15:58:00] candc540: i finally got all moved and now i have internet :)
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[16:00:00] candc540: well time to go to work talk to you guys later
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[16:01:00] Jazon: thanks Coume
[16:01:00] Coume: ur welcome
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[16:08:00] Jazon: hmmm – does anyone know about the remote that shipped with my HP m1080n? it is not curved at all, but rather rectangular.
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[16:12:00] Jazon: oh crap – I think I am hooped – Hardware browser detects it as a Philips eHome Infrared Transceiver
[16:15:00] laga: it could work
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[16:15:00] laga: install lirc, fire up "irw", hit a few buttons on the remote and see what happens
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[16:17:00] AranC23: laga: he may want mode2 first
[16:17:00] AranC23: iirc, irw only shows stuff if you have lirc correctly configured for your remote
[16:18:00] AranC23: speaking of which, I found a remote that my homebrew ir receiver doesn't seem to be able to receive codes from... the xbox dvd remote
[16:18:00] AranC23: and I thought that the homebrew ir receiver could do it all... never found one before it couldn't work with
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[16:38:00] mechtn: ok so i have finally figured out my tuner is using cx88 drivers
[16:42:00] laga: mythtv.info is slow to scroll in my firefox.
[16:43:00] stoffel: same here
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[17:05:00] CyberKnet: mmm... caesar salad
[17:05:00] laga: np: ac/dc – hail caesar
[17:06:00] CyberKnet: xris: any untranslated strings that you need patches for prior to .18?
[17:06:00] CyberKnet: chicken caesar salad, to be precise.
[17:06:00] xris: CyberKnet: you'd have to look at the language files
[17:07:00] CyberKnet: I ought to create a tool to just spit out untranslated strings for a particular language
[17:08:00] CyberKnet: It would also be nice to be able to say "This string is intentionally left untranslated". I guess you would do that by translating it verbatim though =P"
[17:08:00] CyberKnet: kind of screws you when the upstream translation changes though.
[17:12:00] CyberKnet: gah. Too much work. I gotta jet. Hope to be by soon-ish.
[17:14:00] xris: CyberKnet: untranslated strings are just set to '' in the language files
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[17:25:00] ** Beirdo yawns **
[17:26:00] Beirdo: I guess I should invest in some lunch
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[17:26:00] ** laga reyawns **
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[17:26:00] ** laga is again too broke to even afford a coffee ;) **
[17:26:00] ** Beirdo throws a euro coin into the hat **
[17:26:00] laga: thank you!
[17:26:00] laga: 2.5 coffees ;)
[17:26:00] Beirdo: being broke sucks
[17:27:00] laga: yep
[17:27:00] Beirdo: been there far too often
[17:27:00] laga: gotta go to the bank
[17:27:00] Beirdo: http://www.cafepress.com/beirdo
[17:27:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:28:00] ** Beirdo wonders if anyone will buy eventually **
[17:28:00] laga: hehe
[17:28:00] laga: not me
[17:28:00] laga: remember, I'm broke ;)
[17:28:00] Beirdo: and I have to find the CDs for the Georgian Bay pictures and get it onto my gallery
[17:30:00] laga: looks like a lovely place, according to google
[17:31:00] xris: heh
[17:32:00] xris: I should get myself some printable bumper stickers.
[17:32:00] laga: hehe
[17:32:00] laga: "commercials broken, watch for PVR"
[17:33:00] laga: and i wonder if desperate housewives is any good.
[17:33:00] Beirdo: Georgian Bay? Yeah
[17:33:00] Beirdo: I grew up in that area
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[17:34:00] laga: heh
[17:34:00] laga: lots of nature
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[17:37:00] ** xris misses photography **
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[17:43:00] xris: I wonder how close I am to having my recipe parser work.
[17:43:00] zamboni: I screwed up when marking a file for editing, and now the recorded show will loop from llayung the first frame and then dropping back into the recordings preview screen
[17:43:00] zamboni: very weird
[17:44:00] zamboni: the filesize is intact
[17:44:00] zamboni: but its now tagged for a very large cut of everything but th efirsh two or so frames
[17:44:00] zamboni: any clues on how I can fix this?
[17:44:00] zamboni: :(
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[17:45:00] xris: zamboni: go back in and re-edit it?
[17:45:00] xris: or manually remove the cutlist in mysql
[17:46:00] zamboni: it wont let me all it does is when I press enter to play is it plays the first frame and drops back into the preview screen
[17:46:00] zamboni: okay
[17:46:00] zamboni: thats what I thought
[17:46:00] zamboni: but i sthis a feature ?
[17:46:00] xris: you'd think there would be a command to invoke the editor from the program list.
[17:46:00] zamboni: yeah
[17:46:00] xris: what happens when you press "right" on the show?
[17:47:00] xris: instead of enter, to play it.
[17:47:00] zamboni: you mean highlite it?
[17:47:00] zamboni: then press
[17:47:00] zamboni: ??
[17:47:00] xris: right-arrow
[17:47:00] xris: a menu should come up.
[17:47:00] xris: dunno what options are there, but maybe edit is.
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[17:49:00] zamboni: yes but the same thing happens and the other choices look dangerous at his point ;)
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[17:49:00] xris: ok. I just wasn't sure what was there.
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[17:50:00] mechtn: :P
[17:50:00] xris: you want: UPDATE recorded SET cutlist=NULL WHERE chanid=XXXX AND starttime=XXXX;
[17:51:00] zamboni: I does the same thing as >> in preview recordings
[17:51:00] xris: note that starttime is a "datetime" field, in the format "0000-00–00 00:00:00"
[17:51:00] Beirdo: lunch time
[17:51:00] zamboni: like timecode I guess?
[17:51:00] zamboni: Im eating two tins of kippers as I type
[17:52:00] xris: zamboni: you'll have to get the chanid and starttime on your own.
[17:52:00] zamboni: yep got that anyway fro m the filename
[17:53:00] xris: yeah
[17:53:00] xris: just need to format starttime differently now that it's no longer a timestamp field.
[17:53:00] zamboni: right thanks
[17:54:00] ** zamboni wonders if anyone here or the devs are smpte members **
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[17:57:00] laga: simple mail transer protcol elite?
[17:57:00] laga: simple mail protocol transfer elite i mean, sorry.
[17:59:00] zamboni: no society of motion picture & television engineers
[17:59:00] laga: oh.
[17:59:00] zamboni: moonlighting
[17:59:00] zamboni: :)
[18:00:00] mechtn: sup guys
[18:00:00] mechtn: well i've ugpraded to the latest video card drivers from ati and the latest cx88 drivers
[18:00:00] mechtn: maybe my output wont be so messed up on my monitor now
[18:01:00] laga: ati and cx88...sounds like a good combination
[18:02:00] GeckoFiend: mechtn using an ATI card? good luck
[18:03:00] mechtn: hehe..
[18:03:00] mechtn: its all i got :P
[18:05:00] mechtn: the color is perfect on mplayer for playing an avi file
[18:05:00] Beirdo: ATI works fine for me
[18:05:00] laga: dont listen to him, he's a geek
[18:05:00] GeckoFiend: Beirdo no tv out and no opengl sync though
[18:05:00] Beirdo: you're one to talk :)
[18:05:00] Beirdo: GeckoFiend: true. I have TV out
[18:05:00] laga: ;)
[18:05:00] Beirdo: but no openGL
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[18:06:00] GeckoFiend: ahh I thought the TV out was borked in ATIs drivers.
[18:06:00] Beirdo: never had an issue with it that I couldn't resolve :)
[18:06:00] Beirdo: I used a 9200SE for a long time, now using a 9600 Pro
[18:07:00] Beirdo: if you have < 8500, you are SOL though
[18:08:00] ** xris what's /action do? **
[18:08:00] xris: oh, same as /me
[18:09:00] xris: that's dumb
[18:09:00] mechtn: ok excellect
[18:09:00] Beirdo: likely still better off with a nVidia card though
[18:09:00] mechtn: the video/sound are perfect with mplayer and an .avi file
[18:09:00] mechtn: so it has to be myth thats causing the color to be off
[18:09:00] zamboni: /action puts your nick at the head of what you type
[18:10:00] ** zamboni test **
[18:10:00] mechtn: or you can just do /me
[18:10:00] ** mechtn test **
[18:10:00] mechtn: at least for mirc :P
[18:10:00] Beirdo: mechtn wants us to do /him
[18:11:00] laga: i prefer /me.
[18:11:00] mechtn: i guess unplugging my usbdrive just killed my linux machne
[18:11:00] mechtn: grr
[18:11:00] mechtn: mouse/keyboard locked up
[18:12:00] mechtn: hrm
[18:15:00] ** xris was trying to find the command like /msg that also opens a new window. **
[18:15:00] xris: but gaim doesn't list it in /help
[18:16:00] laga: /query ?
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[18:22:00] xris: laga: that'd be the one
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[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 01 – Never Say Die.mp3  ::INFO:: 4.50Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 02 – Johnny Blade.mp3  ::INFO:: 7.59Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 03 – Junior's Eyes.mp3  ::INFO:: 7.88Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 04 – A Hard Road.mp3  ::INFO:: 7.09Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 05 – Shock Wave.mp3  ::INFO:: 6.17Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 06 – Air Dance.mp3  ::INFO:: 6.20Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 07 – Over To You.mp3  ::INFO:: 6.31Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 08 – Breakout.mp3  ::INFO:: 3.04Mb
[18:33:00] gravy_: !SpiKe^^ Black Sabbath (Never Say Die) 09 – Swinging The Chain.mp3  ::INFO:: 4.98Mb
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[18:34:00] xris: wtf?
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[18:35:00] D-side: thats one of the oddest floods I've ever seen.
[18:35:00] xris: yeah
[18:36:00] visit0r: hmm must be some kind of bot warez script?
[18:37:00] Beirdo: some dumbass is trying to share music in the channel?
[18:37:00] visit0r: or request it
[18:37:00] D-side: maybe a misfire/paste
[18:37:00] D-side: and then felt like an ass and bailed
[18:37:00] visit0r: yep, probably meant to be private. feel free to test, if there's one called SpiKe
[18:37:00] visit0r: :)
[18:38:00] visit0r: naah I don't even dig black sabbath too much
[18:42:00] xris: maybe. isn't even logged in anymore.
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[18:53:00] Beirdo: feeling minion-less?
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[18:59:00] xris: yes
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[19:11:00] jonpall: hello
[19:12:00] jonpall: I need some help
[19:12:00] jonpall: what frequency id should be used for s-video input
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[19:14:00] AranC23: 4?
[19:14:00] AranC23: just kidding, why would you need a frequency id for s-video?
[19:15:00] xris: jonpall: svideo is svideo. no freq
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[19:16:00] jonpall: xris: yeah
[19:16:00] jonpall: that's what I thought
[19:16:00] jonpall: but the video is fuzzy if I leave it blank
[19:17:00] jonpall: also
[19:17:00] jonpall: what interlace should one use from mpeg-2
[19:18:00] xris: jonpall: whichever looks best on your screen
[19:18:00] xris: and no clue about freq. svideo shouldn't even have that option, it's used for changing channels, which svideo doesn' thave.
[19:18:00] jonpall: exactly
[19:18:00] jonpall: very strange
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[19:36:00] ** GeckoFiend tries in vain to get the words to "Casiotone Nation" out of his head **
[19:40:00] Beirdo: OK... invoicing done...
[19:41:00] Beirdo: yuo'd think I'd be a bit more... prompt with invoicing :)
[19:45:00] Mrgoose: sup Beirdo
[19:45:00] Mrgoose: was it necessary for you to use seperate modules in your script? or did that just make it easier?
[19:45:00] Beirdo: what are you talking about?
[19:46:00] Mrgoose: your nuvexport
[19:46:00] Mrgoose: you use perl modules
[19:46:00] Beirdo: It's not mine
[19:46:00] Mrgoose: wtf
[19:46:00] Beirdo: it's xris', and I help him with it
[19:46:00] Mrgoose: i thought you wrote nuvexport
[19:46:00] Mrgoose: oh
[19:46:00] Beirdo: parts of it I wrote
[19:46:00] Mrgoose: i see
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[19:48:00] _membreya: is anyone able to explain why mythbackend won't load for me? I always get
[19:48:00] _membreya: QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket
[19:48:00] _membreya: Failed to bind port: 6543
[19:48:00] _membreya: even though I've setup /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services
[19:49:00] xris: Mrgoose: it makes things MUCH easier.
[19:49:00] GreyFoxx: there is nothing myth needs to have in either of those
[19:50:00] Mrgoose: xris: ahh, just to organize stuff right?
[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: ]mem it's likely just another copy is already running and bound to the port so the one you are trying to run can't get it
[19:50:00] xris: yeah. have you ever tried to edit a single 6000 line fine?
[19:50:00] xris: s/fine/file/
[19:51:00] _membreya: ps aux |grep mythbackend says that it's not running :(
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: mem what did you put in inetd.conf?
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: you probably have inetd binding the port
[19:52:00] _membreya: mythbackend stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /etc/init.d/mythbackend
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: myth is not an inetd service
[19:53:00] _membreya: aaah :) took it out of inetd and it works ;)
[19:54:00] GreyFoxx: inetd services are for stuff that you want to be launch when and incoming connection comes in and close after, not for daemons that run all the time:)
[19:55:00] _membreya: lol, now I can start it by hand, but when I do the /etc/init.d/mythbackend start I get the can't bind...and yes I've killed all other instances ;) ...hmm might just have to mythbackend & it :P
[19:55:00] laga: check its logs
[19:55:00] directhex: check your /var/log/mythwhat#ever
[19:55:00] laga: less /var/log/myth<tab>
[19:56:00] jonpall: anyone know why mythtv seems blurry
[19:56:00] D-side: you need glasses? :)
[19:56:00] laga: jonpall: dirty glasses? too much drinking?
[19:56:00] jonpall: hehehe
[19:56:00] laga: heya D-side!
[19:56:00] jonpall: not really
[19:56:00] GeckoFiend: laga bah you beat me to it
[19:56:00] jonpall: i have a pvr 15
[19:56:00] jonpall: 150
[19:56:00] D-side: laga: howdy. how goes it
[19:56:00] laga: GeckoFiend: heh.
[19:56:00] laga: D-side: fine. and what about you?
[19:57:00] jonpall: do you disagree that mythtv is more blurry than the original input?
[19:57:00] laga: jonpall: well. i haven't tried to compare it directly. umm, try the "kerneldeint" filter.
[19:57:00] laga: no.
[19:57:00] laga: wait.
[19:57:00] laga: i mean "denoise3d"
[19:57:00] jonpall: umm.. i have a hardware encoder
[19:57:00] laga: but i can take a lot of cpu
[19:57:00] jonpall: does that work?
[19:57:00] _membreya: now...with mythfrontend..where's it's config? :P
[19:57:00] laga: oh. well.
[19:58:00] laga: i dont think so.
[19:58:00] jonpall: _membreya: in the mysql database on the backend
[19:58:00] _membreya: noooooooooooooooo
[19:59:00] _membreya: It's trying to connect to 192.168.0.6 (my IP) but I want it to connect to 127.0.01
[19:59:00] jonpall: right
[19:59:00] jonpall: try ~/.mythtv
[20:00:00] _membreya: i had it running before :|
[20:00:00] _membreya: meh
[20:00:00] _membreya: I can just run mythtv...just means I miss out on the other stuff ;)
[20:03:00] _membreya: just figured out what was buggering it up ..mythphone :P purged it and it works fine :P
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[20:10:00] Dr_Barnowl: Hi there, any DEC2000-t users here?
[20:16:00] Beirdo: beer me
[20:16:00] laga: whisky me
[20:16:00] ** laga is in the right mood for some hard stuff **
[20:17:00] Beirdo: mmmm.
[20:17:00] Beirdo: scotch
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[20:21:00] _membreya: ok, well I've at least got mythtv showing a fuzzy picture now (snow) ....the signal is coming in straight from a cable box....
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[20:25:00] D-side: laga: oh, not bad. (half an hour later)
[20:25:00] laga: hehe.
[20:26:00] laga: seems like you're busy ;)
[20:28:00] D-side: yeah. working.
[20:28:00] D-side: employment is overrated. :/
[20:28:00] laga: yep.
[20:28:00] laga: and my mythtv is now working. great.
[20:28:00] D-side: why was it broken?
[20:29:00] Beirdo: because employment is overrated
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[20:29:00] D-side: oh that reminds me. QT 3.3.4 introduces timezone issues with mythtv, yes?
[20:29:00] laga: never mind. never fscking mind.
[20:29:00] D-side: Beirdo: it all depends on your job :)
[20:29:00] D-side: laga: that bad eh?
[20:30:00] laga: yep.
[20:30:00] Beirdo: yes, it has been fixed in CVS, AFAIK
[20:30:00] laga: indeed.
[20:30:00] D-side: very good. thanks.
[20:30:00] laga: because it used to work with the wrong mixer settings
[20:30:00] D-side: ah. sounds aggravating.
[20:31:00] laga: .oO(...why hast thou forsaken me?!..)
[20:32:00] laga: fsck. 120 gb. i dont want my big hard drive anymore.
[20:32:00] D-side: i'll take it.
[20:32:00] laga: :>
[20:33:00] laga: just a matter of dividing it into smaller partition
[20:33:00] laga: s
[20:33:00] D-side: ah, yes. :)
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[20:39:00] GeckoFiend: laga heh did you format it ext3 or something?
[20:40:00] new-b-wan: can anyone reccomend a debian tutorial for mythtv?
[20:40:00] new-b-wan: (recommend)
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[20:40:00] laga: GeckoFiend: ext3.
[20:41:00] GeckoFiend: heh no wonder you hate your drive
[20:41:00] laga: hehe
[20:41:00] laga: i'll use a different fs next time
[20:41:00] laga: but hey, i was young ;)
[20:42:00] laga: i wonder why mythtv freezes the system (still pingable) if the mixer for my bttv card is set up correctly.
[20:43:00] laga: sounds like problems with alsa.
[20:44:00] new-b-wan: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/LinuxDistros
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[20:47:00] new-b-wan: none of these how-tos mention issues with mysql
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[20:47:00] ** how-to mentions issues with mysql **
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[20:47:00] laga: are you happy now?
[20:47:00] new-b-wan: clever
[20:48:00] laga: yep!
[20:48:00] new-b-wan: does your mythtv work?
[20:49:00] laga: half of mine do, yep.
[20:49:00] new-b-wan: do you run debian?
[20:49:00] laga: on the half one that doesn't work, yep.
[20:50:00] TheAsp: laga: it wont take long to check with reiser
[20:50:00] new-b-wan: hmm ... is the problem related to mysql?
[20:50:00] laga: nope.
[20:50:00] laga: TheAsp: thank you.
[20:51:00] new-b-wan: what are you running for the half that works?
[20:52:00] laga: fedora core 3
[20:52:00] laga: works like a charm
[20:54:00] new-b-wan: thanks – I'll try that if I get too frustrated
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[21:01:00] mechtn2: i swear
[21:01:00] mechtn2: i've never had my internet drop this much
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[21:02:00] mechtn: its a freaking T1... its been going down like mad.. i hope they are upgrading equipment or something
[21:02:00] jonpall: fucking nightmare pvr 150
[21:04:00] mechtn: no my ati tv wonder pro is a nightmare :P
[21:04:00] mechtn: thats like a walk in the damn park
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[21:13:00] jonpall: umm
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[21:13:00] jonpall: well
[21:13:00] jonpall: I've spent a whole day sorting out audio
[21:13:00] jonpall: problems
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[21:42:00] LedHed: anything new?
[21:42:00] LedHed: havent been around for a while.
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[21:44:00] Beirdo: oh oh, everyone stop talking about him
[21:44:00] LedHed: :)
[21:44:00] Beirdo: heya, LedHed. Welcome back
[21:44:00] LedHed: thanks
[21:45:00] LedHed: anything new or exciting, myth or otherwise?
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[21:46:00] carl: hi mythtv world!
[21:46:00] LedHed: hello
[21:46:00] Beirdo: meh...
[21:46:00] carl: installing my first Mythbox today
[21:47:00] LedHed: carl, thats great
[21:47:00] LedHed: good luck
[21:47:00] carl: thanks! I've new to Linux, so.. it's taking some time.
[21:47:00] LedHed: Me too, for the last 5 years
[21:47:00] LedHed: :)
[21:48:00] carl: i got through to the 'mythtv-setup', but I'm having trouble with the database when I connect to datadirect.
[21:49:00] LedHed: have you setup an account at labs.zap2it.com?
[21:49:00] carl: yep.
[21:49:00] carl: and it works
[21:49:00] carl: trouble is.. can't access mysql
[21:50:00] LedHed: have you created the database?
[21:50:00] carl: yes.
[21:50:00] carl: and it exists.. i checked
[21:50:00] LedHed: have you setup the permissions?
[21:50:00] LedHed: or granted mythtv (user) permission?
[21:50:00] carl: i believe so.
[21:51:00] LedHed: is the backend/frontend on the same box?
[21:51:00] carl: /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend
[21:51:00] carl: yes
[21:51:00] TheAsp: carl: debian?
[21:51:00] carl: that's where it receives the message.. no Ubuntu
[21:51:00] carl: debian-based
[21:52:00] LedHed: the backend wont start if it cant access the DB
[21:52:00] TheAsp: it's possible your myth mysql password got changed
[21:52:00] visit0r: hmm should mythvideo just appear in mythfrontend after make install?
[21:52:00] LedHed: visit0r: after make install of mythvideo, yes
[21:52:00] TheAsp: snag a copy of mc.sql and edit the passwords
[21:52:00] visit0r: does it need backend restart? should not I think...
[21:52:00] carl: and it doesn't start.. receives errors
[21:52:00] LedHed: visit0r: have you restarted the frontend?
[21:52:00] visit0r: sure
[21:53:00] carl: accessing mythconverg
[21:53:00] TheAsp: then run it through mysql
[21:53:00] visit0r: LedHed: many times
[21:53:00] TheAsp: carl: does it talk about dd_*?
[21:53:00] visit0r: 2005-04–12 23:46:08.745 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
[21:53:00] LedHed: visit0r: try restarting the backend.
[21:53:00] visit0r: it says that in the startupt, I guess that's from mythvideo?
[21:53:00] carl: TheAsp: I'm not sure?
[21:54:00] TheAsp: carl: when it gives errors, does it say something about not being able to find dd_foo?
[21:55:00] carl: I'm finding out
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[21:55:00] visit0r: LedHed: no help from restarting the backend. I suppose it has something to do with that I have installed mythtv to /work/mythtv
[21:55:00] visit0r: and then stow'd to /usr/local because ran out of space on /
[21:56:00] LedHed: could be.
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[21:56:00] LedHed: isnt there a way to tell mythvideo where to install to? with a configure option?
[21:56:00] carl: TheAsp: your right.. it's in the mysql permissions. somewhere
[21:57:00] obe1: i lost some files to a bad disk, I can't remove them from myth? any suggestions? do i have to manually delete from mysql db?
[21:57:00] TheAsp: carl: make a copy of mc.sql, change the password to whats in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[21:57:00] LedHed: visit0r: try configure --help
[21:58:00] visit0r: no configure script in mythvideo
[21:58:00] LedHed: visit0r: ahh.
[21:58:00] visit0r: yes, I tried changing the PREFIX in settings.pro to point to the /work/mythtv, didn't help.
[21:59:00] LedHed: visit0r: sorry no other ideas here
[21:59:00] LedHed: obe1: try a MySQL editor.
[22:00:00] LedHed: obe1: phpmyadmin
[22:00:00] carl: TheAsp: I believe it works
[22:00:00] carl: :)
[22:00:00] obe1: ok, i just saw a post, using 'touch' to create the files needed so its deletable..
[22:01:00] TheAsp: carl: sweet.
[22:01:00] TheAsp: :P
[22:01:00] carl: Thanks much!
[22:01:00] LedHed: obe1: can you paste that URL.
[22:02:00] TheAsp: np
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[22:06:00] JasonBox2: I'm running MythTV on FC and just upgraded to 0.17 and now mythtvfrontend hangs when I run it, killing X recovered the monitor and keyboard, if done remotely
[22:08:00] LedHed: JasonBox2: which FC? 1,2,3?
[22:08:00] LedHed: I had lots of problems when I switched to FC3 & 0.17 (from FC2 & 0.16)
[22:08:00] JasonBox2: FC2 atm
[22:09:00] JasonBox2: Upgrade was on Apr 7th to latest 0.17
[22:09:00] JasonBox2: The frontend completely owns the keyboard and screen locally
[22:09:00] JasonBox2: An strace shows it's stuck in a select() on something
[22:10:00] LedHed: you using the ATRPMS or roll your own?
[22:10:00] JasonBox2: It's ATRPMS
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[22:10:00] LedHed: I had trouble with the ATRPMS. So I compiled 0.17 instead
[22:11:00] JasonBox2: From an ATRPMS source RPM or from Myth sources?
[22:11:00] LedHed: myth Source
[22:11:00] JasonBox2: Interesting
[22:11:00] LedHed: worked out ok, I was able to get my LCD working this way
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[22:12:00] JasonBox2: Excellent
[22:13:00] LedHed: Try Compiling, Its not that bad. (My first time compiling)
[22:13:00] LedHed: and I'm quite the n00b
[22:14:00] obe1: LedHed: http://tinyurl.com/4dqd7
[22:14:00] LedHed: obe1: thanks
[22:16:00] LedHed: obe1: interesting. Mythfrontend cant delete the DB entry because the file is missing. so by doing touch Missing_Filename the file is now created and the frontend can now delete it. Cool
[22:17:00] JasonBox2: Neat, thanks
[22:17:00] obe1: yea, i wish myth would have an override option, to delete it even if it is missing
[22:17:00] LedHed: that would be cool
[22:18:00] LedHed: It would be cool if the Frontend did a delete of both DB entry & File or Either/or
[22:19:00] Beirdo: we look forward to your patches
[22:19:00] LedHed: not
[22:19:00] LedHed: I'm just saying. not promising
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[22:23:00] LedHed: off topic: anyone here have an opinion on squidguard or dansguardian?
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[23:27:00] andr3www: hey all .. I have some problems with your documentation and all the recommendations for hardware, I find sometimes recommending one specific type of hardware ridiculous (ie the videocard)
[23:29:00] LedHed: whats the problem>
[23:30:00] LedHed: andr3www: go with a ATI9200se or nVidia GeForce 440mx.
[23:31:00] ** kormoc recommends the nvidia if one doesn't have any issues using closed drivers. **
[23:31:00] amax: is ATI any more open than nvidia?
[23:31:00] LedHed: nope
[23:32:00] amax: thought so...
[23:32:00] andr3www: I could not for the life of me get my ATI 7500 working with GATOS for TV-Out
[23:32:00] andr3www: That was a nightmare, I had to go with NVidia closed drivers
[23:32:00] kormoc: Ati drivers jsut tend to have... issues...
[23:32:00] andr3www: but if yr machine is > 800mhz, then framebuffer is no problems
[23:32:00] LedHed: andr3www: loose the 7500 and the gatos drivers
[23:32:00] LedHed: go with a 9200se
[23:33:00] LedHed: and ATI drivers
[23:33:00] andr3www: the goal of the box is to spend no money :p
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[23:33:00] LedHed: SOL then
[23:33:00] kormoc: get a cheap nvidia and then don't deal with iffy hardware :P
[23:33:00] andr3www: oh wait you can't do framebuffer in mythtv
[23:33:00] andr3www: my box is a p3 450, so I'm not even doing timeshifting
[23:33:00] LedHed: $35 isnt too much to spend considering it will save you tons of time
[23:34:00] andr3www: what about the challenge
[23:34:00] kormoc: why don't you try to use something like tvtime or xawtv then? not alot of reason to use myth if not timeshifting at all
[23:34:00] kormoc: the challenge is fun, are you up to it tho is more the question :P
[23:34:00] LedHed: 450mhz? you will need hardware decoder
[23:34:00] LedHed: I mean encoder
[23:35:00] andr3www: it plays movies and stuff fine.. i'm not looking to capture
[23:35:00] kormoc: xaw's overlay mode might work with a bttv on a 450mhz.
[23:35:00] kormoc: myth captures live tv
[23:35:00] andr3www: I don't have a TV card in my machine
[23:35:00] andr3www: I was just using it to play movies and stuff on my TV
[23:35:00] LedHed: what are you usind it for? a DVD jukebox?
[23:35:00] kormoc: ahh, gotcha.
[23:36:00] LedHed: ah
[23:36:00] andr3www: 450.. can't do much .. one day I'll dual processor it up and make XVid's on the fly
[23:36:00] LedHed: I was never able to get TV-out forking on my ATI8500 either, I got a cheap $35 9200se and things went sommthly
[23:36:00] andr3www: the closed source drivers didn't work?
[23:37:00] LedHed: andr3www: they wont on anything pre 9100
[23:37:00] andr3www: i think ti's funny you have to use a TV card to watch TV .. on a TV
[23:38:00] andr3www: are there quality problems
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[23:39:00] Mrgoose: anyone here know bash scripting?
[23:39:00] kormoc: The Advanced Bash programming guide does!
[23:39:00] LedHed: andr3www: you dont need a tv-card to watch tv on a tv. just turn the tv on and bingo you have tv. if you want to buffer Live tv then you need a tv capture card
[23:40:00] andr3www: I'm surprised the tV out actually sends out the live tv signal
[23:41:00] LedHed: it doesnt, it buffers about 2 sec. then plays back
[23:41:00] andr3www: so when u watch live tv.. yr actually watching something itj ust recorded?
[23:42:00] kormoc: in myth, yes
[23:42:00] andr3www: crazy
[23:42:00] kormoc: infact, it holds a gig or so of the past tv you just watched too
[23:42:00] kormoc: so you can rewind
[23:42:00] kormoc: I think it does by default anyway.
[23:43:00] andr3www: what format does it record it in .. must be an MPEG
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[23:44:00] kormoc: mpeg in a nuv container, with mp3 sound iirc
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[23:49:00] LedHed: andr3www: I believe that it can capture in mjpeg, mpeg-2, or xvid/divx(mpeg4).
[23:50:00] xris: kormoc: just plain old mpeg, actually.
[23:50:00] Dr_Barnowl: or it just streams Digital TV straight to the disk
[23:50:00] Dr_Barnowl: Because it's MPEG-2 anyway
[23:50:00] xris: only thing actually an nuv is a bttv recording.
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[23:50:00] kormoc: ahh, hence why mine are nuvs then.
[23:51:00] Dr_Barnowl: They all have te .nuv extension though.
[23:51:00] Dr_Barnowl: Regardless of what format they are inside.
[23:54:00] xris: Dr_Barnowl: yes. and it SUCKS.
[23:57:00] Mrgoose: anyone here know bash scripting?
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