| Monday, April 11th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | riksta: | mythtv.info? |
| [00:01:00] | JeepJerk: | guess not |
| [00:01:00] | JeepJerk: | didn't even know abotu that |
| [00:02:00] | riksta: | search for digital sound |
| [00:03:00] | JeepJerk: | alright, I'll check that out, thanks |
| [00:04:00] | JeepJerk: | is there a reason not to use aRts? |
| [00:05:00] | riksta: | yeah it's a bitch it hogs the sound card |
| [00:05:00] | JeepJerk: | so KDE always runs it tho anyways right? |
| [00:05:00] | riksta: | turn it off in kcontrol |
| [00:06:00] | riksta: | you need to read the crap on the wiki about dmix |
| [00:06:00] | Cromz: | I would have read it.. but I'm illiterate :O |
| [00:07:00] | JeepJerk: | will the wiki tell me how to kill arts? |
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| [00:10:00] | riksta: | i cant watch any tv currently |
| [00:10:00] | riksta: | which sucks |
| [00:11:00] | riksta: | i have two shitty old bt848 cards |
| [00:11:00] | riksta: | and now, even with just one inserted into the pci slot |
| [00:11:00] | riksta: | i just get tons of IRQ errors |
| [00:11:00] | riksta: | and the box locks |
| [00:11:00] | riksta: | even on old kernels that worked :( |
| [00:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | pisser |
| [00:12:00] | riksta: | really pissing me off |
| [00:12:00] | riksta: | have tried everything , moving card slots, doing manual irq stuff in bios |
| [00:12:00] | riksta: | i dunno if the cards might be fried |
| [00:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | try a fresh build? |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | of what |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | os |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | whole box |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | no way man |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | i aint doing that shit for a card |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | that worked fine |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | try it in another box? |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | yeah i'll have to |
| [00:13:00] | riksta: | i just don't have any boxes that are close to the antenna other than this one |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | its screwed too, sometimes after the IRQ errors in dmesg |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | if i reboot |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | the card shows up in the ESCD table from the bios |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | but lspci in linux just doesn't even find it at all |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | and the bttv module doesn't pick it up |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | until i actually move it's slot |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | and even if i reset the configuration data in the bios |
| [00:14:00] | riksta: | its proper hosed |
| [00:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [00:15:00] | riksta: | but i have two of these same cards |
| [00:15:00] | riksta: | and they are both doin it |
| [00:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | odd |
| [00:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | doesn;t sound like the card then |
| [00:15:00] | riksta: | exactly |
| [00:15:00] | riksta: | id rather it was the card, they cost about £15 |
| [00:15:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [00:15:00] | riksta: | ati tv wonder ve |
| [00:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | gotta be an interrupt or base io conflict |
| [00:16:00] | riksta: | it is |
| [00:16:00] | riksta: | but why the hell is it doin it:) |
| [00:16:00] | riksta: | i get errors like this |
| [00:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | what else is in the box beside video and disk controlelr |
| [00:16:00] | riksta: | just an agp video card |
| [00:16:00] | riksta: | i even took out my rain controller card |
| [00:16:00] | riksta: | raid* |
| [00:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | damn |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask [bits: HSYNC OFLOW PPERR OCERR*] |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: OCERR @ 000c0000,bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR* |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask [bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR*] |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: OCERR @ 000c0000,bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR* |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask [bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR*] |
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| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: OCERR @ 000c0000,bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR* |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | Apr 10 04:42:30 draconis bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask [bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR*] |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | etc |
| [00:17:00] | riksta: | untill it just hardlocks the box |
| [00:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | I've had something like this happen to me – one time the fix was to pull all the cards, power up, power down, install 1 card at a time. the pnp bios was completely lost |
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| [00:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | that fixed one |
| [00:18:00] | riksta: | but i reset the configuration data |
| [00:18:00] | riksta: | maybe i should try that i suppose |
| [00:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | so did I |
| [00:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | ;) |
| [00:18:00] | riksta: | ill short the bios jumper |
| [00:18:00] | riksta: | and power down |
| [00:18:00] | riksta: | in a bit |
| [00:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | ethier one other card is locked or the bt card woon;t obey the bios |
| [00:18:00] | riksta: | got damn asus a7x8n is the buggyest board |
| [00:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | the other time is was the power supply |
| [00:18:00] | RoCkY: | im reading old stuff about alsa |
| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | aus eats toenail clippimgs |
| [00:19:00] | riksta: | pretty sure my power supply is ok, its an enermax 600 odd watt |
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| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | hate those POS clones |
| [00:19:00] | riksta: | yeah plus its nforce2 |
| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | hate them |
| [00:19:00] | riksta: | so i got shit loads of probs with ACPI and APIC sometimes too |
| [00:19:00] | RoCkY: | im using 1.09 with snd-hda-intel aziz(something) chips and it works with 2.6.11.7 kernel no problem |
| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | and that goes for the crap tiger direct sold me once |
| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | POS |
| [00:19:00] | riksta: | i ujst rip out all ACPI and APIC stuff from the kernel |
| [00:19:00] | riksta: | but |
| [00:19:00] | riksta: | for this IRQ prob |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | i tried with APIC disabled and enabled |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | because i know that APIC is supposed to get rid of the IRQ handling or something along those lines |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | (not 100% sure what it does) |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | still didn't help |
| [00:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | odd but true, power down, rip out everything, power up, power down, then up with 1 card at a time |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | if that works |
| [00:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | vga |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | ill fuckin kick myself |
| [00:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | then bt |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | would you say clear the bios |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | or just power down |
| [00:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | I assume the sound and everything else is integrated on the mb |
| [00:20:00] | riksta: | yeah it is |
| [00:21:00] | riksta: | but ive even |
| [00:21:00] | riksta: | disabled the parport and game port and midi port to free up irq |
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| [00:21:00] | riksta: | and still nothing |
| [00:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | reset the bios to factory – sw reset via function key |
| [00:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | something is hung |
| [00:21:00] | riksta: | function |
| [00:21:00] | riksta: | ? |
| [00:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | in bios, rest to factory as opposed to using a jumper or pulling the battery |
| [00:22:00] | riksta: | ok will do |
| [00:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | good luck man |
| [00:22:00] | riksta: | need to wait for some emerges to finish |
| [00:22:00] | riksta: | yeah thanks for the idea |
| [00:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | np |
| [00:22:00] | riksta: | hope it fskin sorts it |
| [00:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | clone boards suck |
| [00:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | never again will I suffer like that |
| [00:22:00] | riksta: | what do you buy |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | I bought a dell dimension |
| [00:23:00] | riksta: | i might just buy a new damn board for the sake of it |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | running strong for 2 years now |
| [00:23:00] | riksta: | i have a dell dimension that i stole from my old work |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | and I use it hard |
| [00:23:00] | riksta: | as my server |
| [00:23:00] | riksta: | its solid man |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [00:23:00] | riksta: | it gets raped |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | gotta hand it to them |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | cheap and reliable |
| [00:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | sound support and alsa was a pain thouh :) |
| [00:24:00] | riksta: | well |
| [00:24:00] | riksta: | they go for tried and tested |
| [00:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh – and I freid the cdrom drive with xcdroast |
| [00:24:00] | riksta: | not mix and match |
| [00:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | had to get a replacement and flash it |
| [00:24:00] | riksta: | really, how the hell did you do that |
| [00:24:00] | riksta: | do you wanna hear a werid story about a DVD-RW media |
| [00:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | xcdroast sent a valid command to the drive and it cleared the flash instead |
| [00:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | a known bug but I didn;t know about it until after it wiped my drive |
| [00:25:00] | riksta: | somehow, i was doing a routine tar.bz2 of my entire o/s partition, and burning it to the DVD-RW disc, and somehow |
| [00:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | just this particular make of cdrom |
| [00:25:00] | riksta: | it actually re-wrote the book type of the god damn DVD-RW media |
| [00:25:00] | riksta: | and turned it into a DVD-R |
| [00:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | wow |
| [00:25:00] | riksta: | figure that one out :) |
| [00:25:00] | riksta: | i have no idea how the hell it did it |
| [00:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | sounds like the same kind of thing that happened to me |
| [00:25:00] | riksta: | i have some lite-on burner |
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| [00:25:00] | riksta: | there is even this command: |
| [00:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | my advice is to get the flash image and util for that drive and re-flash it |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | dvd+rw-booktype |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | but it couldnt restore the booktype |
| [00:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | just make sure it's the right image! |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | yeah i re-flashed it in windows |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | its just plain weird |
| [00:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | it's never done it since |
| [00:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | good |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | but |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | i only re-flashed it with the same version |
| [00:26:00] | riksta: | so go figure :) |
| [00:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | same thing – some people do not follow the spec for this stuff and a valid command will do that to the drive |
| [00:27:00] | riksta: | just strange how it can actually physically change the booktype |
| [00:27:00] | riksta: | so i can no longer re-write to the media |
| [00:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | it did't – it must have changed the firmware to report itself as a an r not an rw |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | i think it might have been k3b's invocation of a command to blank the disc that hosed it |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | the drive now reports to the os that it is a dvd-r drive |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | changed the firmware??! |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | no no no |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | ure not getting me |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | the drive can still burn |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | it changed the BOOKTYPE of the actual media |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | from a -rw to a -r |
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| [00:28:00] | riksta: | so i can no longer format it! |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | now that's messed up |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | exactly man |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | just that one disk? |
| [00:28:00] | riksta: | jsut that one yeah |
| [00:29:00] | riksta: | i have never heard of anything as crazy ever |
| [00:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's messed up |
| [00:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | bad media? |
| [00:29:00] | riksta: | well |
| [00:29:00] | riksta: | it worked 5 times before |
| [00:29:00] | riksta: | i could wipe it |
| [00:29:00] | riksta: | and stuff |
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| [00:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | depends on what's on it |
| [00:30:00] | riksta: | was just an iso9660 f/s with a tar.bz2 file on it |
| [00:32:00] | Majestic12: | Anyone know if one *has* to use a mod chip to use the xbox as a front end for mythtv? Is the mod chip the only way to use the xbox? |
| [00:33:00] | riksta: | afaik you don't?! |
| [00:33:00] | riksta: | isn't there a way to remove the hdd |
| [00:33:00] | Majestic12: | yea it's *locked* somehow though... |
| [00:34:00] | riksta: | oh, well i'm honestly not the best person to be telling you |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | crap crap crap! |
| [00:34:00] | riksta: | but i was under the impression that its possible |
| [00:34:00] | riksta: | hi Beirdo mate |
| [00:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | crap? |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, crap |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | I removed some code I shouldn't have :) |
| [00:35:00] | riksta: | backup son, backup! |
| [00:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | crap |
| [00:35:00] | JeepJerk: | got the sound working, thanks |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I have the old code |
| [00:35:00] | riksta: | right MrSpiffy |
| [00:35:00] | riksta: | time to try your crazy suggestion :) |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | but I totally reorganized the code, so... |
| [00:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | good luck riksta |
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| [00:36:00] | riksta: | brb, for another lockup i guess :) |
| [00:36:00] | riksta: | ever the optimist (cough) |
| [00:36:00] | JeepJerk: | for some reason mythbackend is unable to run mythcommflag |
| [00:36:00] | riksta: | brb |
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| [00:36:00] | JeepJerk: | says command not owund |
| [00:36:00] | JeepJerk: | found even |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | it's likely not on your path when running |
| [00:37:00] | JeepJerk: | but its there, and its in the path |
| [00:37:00] | JeepJerk: | its in /etc/profile |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think that will necessarily do it |
| [00:37:00] | JeepJerk: | any suggestions? |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | how are you running the backend? |
| [00:38:00] | JeepJerk: | service |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | edit the /etc/init.d file |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | and put it in the PATH in there |
| [00:38:00] | JeepJerk: | ok |
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| [00:40:00] | JeepJerk: | think that got it, thanks |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | no problemo |
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| [00:42:00] | JeepJerk: | I'll buy you a beer next time I see you |
| [00:42:00] | JeepJerk: | :P |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh :) |
| [00:45:00] | JeepJerk: | so you know anyone who's made an HP DE100C into a myth frontend? |
| [00:46:00] | JeepJerk: | cause I'm about to go try cracking it to get linux on it |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | no clue |
| [00:46:00] | JeepJerk: | alright |
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| [00:46:00] | JeepJerk: | later man, thanks again |
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| [01:09:00] | riksta: | well, what a nightmare that was! |
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| [01:09:00] | riksta: | anyway it seems to be detecting the cards again, so ill run tvtime in a window, but i wont hold my breath i can forsee more IRQ lockups! :( |
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| [01:10:00] | riksta: | bttv0: IRQ lockup, cleared int mask [bits: FMTCHG* VSYNC* HSYNC* OFLOW* HLOCK* VPRES* 6* 7* I2CDONE* GPINT* 10* RISCI* FBUS* FTRGT* FDSR* PPERR* RIPERR* PABORT* OCERR* SCERR*] |
| [01:10:00] | riksta: | god damn |
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| [01:11:00] | riksta: | bttv0: timeout: drop=2 irq=1260/39508, risc=37544034, bits: VSYNC HSYNC OFLOW FBUS PPERR OCERR SCERR |
| [01:11:00] | riksta: | bttv0: reset, reinitialize |
| [01:11:00] | riksta: | bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 . ok |
| [01:11:00] | riksta: | what does that mean |
| [01:17:00] | riksta: | looks like it's holding out.....for now |
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| [01:27:00] | mini-morfic: | when i tell mythtv to use ALSA:default as audio output device it likes none of the mixers, saying it cant access them, other apps, including tvtime happily play audio using alsa, is there anywhere more info on mythtv+alsa? |
| [01:27:00] | riksta: | use "default" as mixer |
| [01:27:00] | riksta: | its on the wiki |
| [01:33:00] | CygnusX1_: | HAs anyone had any luck getting the remote for a PVR150 retail working? |
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| [01:37:00] | mini-morfic: | using default as mixer still doesnt work, it even works w/o any keystrokes being processed then exits with a "there was a error processing video" |
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| [01:46:00] | mini-morfic: | riksta: thanks, i still dont see it on wiki, now trying ALSA:default as device, and default as mixer i still have mythtv "lock up" (it doesnt react to keystrokes till it exits with an error regarding having problems processing video) |
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| [01:48:00] | StringBlade: | mini-morfic: 'default' didn't work for me as a mixer with ALSA:default as the device – I just ended up turning off controlling the internal volume (the check box above the mixer settings) |
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| [01:52:00] | Cromz: | with all this junk I'm running.. I'm still getting around 40fps with nuvexport to vcd :) |
| [01:53:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: ok, trying it off, and since my tuner mysteriously now works (think "i havent changed anything") id be set if this "just worked" ;) |
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| [01:54:00] | StringBlade: | in my case it worked fine because I use digital out that doesn't go through that mixer anyway |
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| [01:54:00] | StringBlade: | but I think the only thing it'll affect is your ability to control the volume from within myth |
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| [01:58:00] | mini-morfic: | i could live with that till i can find a real fix |
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| [01:58:00] | mini-morfic: | right now i need to figure out my program guide offset |
| [01:59:00] | mini-morfic: | thanks StringBlade |
| [02:00:00] | mini-morfic: | oh and of course how to keep sound from staying on when i exit mythtv |
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| [02:21:00] | mini-morfic: | that's interesting, i set ALSA:default as device, default as mixer and control Line, i can see it does control line but internal control mutes Line when i adjust it up or down, so how can i get it to keep capture on and not mute Line? |
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| [02:22:00] | StringBlade: | mini-morfic: have you tried alsamixer? |
| [02:22:00] | StringBlade: | outside of myth |
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| [02:29:00] | mini-morfic: | any mixer outside works, like i can control it and whatever volume level i set it to is what mythtv then is at when i hit [ or ] , but when i do that it adjusts the level and mutes Line (i dont hear anything, it would still capture however) |
| [02:30:00] | mini-morfic: | somewhere i read i need to listen to capture, but quite frankly didnt get how i would achieve that |
| [02:31:00] | StringBlade: | listen to capture? |
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| [02:31:00] | StringBlade: | I assume if you're capturing on the line in, then you'd listen to line output |
| [02:31:00] | StringBlade: | by that statement |
| [02:32:00] | StringBlade: | so in alsamixer (or whatever) you'd set line as your capture and then unmute the line out |
| [02:33:00] | catphish: | i now have an automated tuning option in my frontend, its very cool |
| [02:34:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: correct, i capture Line and unmute and all is good, if i use [] to say listen to a quiet passage or turn volume down to hear what wife says it mutes Line again, requiring me to switch back to alsamixer to unmute it :) |
| [02:35:00] | mini-morfic: | if mythtv didnt mute Line, all would be good now |
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| [02:37:00] | catphish: | mini-morfic: u need to start mythfrontend with the line unmuted |
| [02:37:00] | catphish: | at least thats what i did with a similar problem and it was fine |
| [02:37:00] | catphish: | it kept muting my master output cos it was muted when i started the frontend |
| [02:37:00] | StringBlade: | mini-morfic: so are you using 'default' for your mixer or did you turn the mixer off? |
| [02:38:00] | mini-morfic: | i retried with default as my mixer |
| [02:38:00] | StringBlade: | does this happen with no mixer settings? |
| [02:38:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: id have to check, cause i dont know if the [] keys work w/o a mixer |
| [02:39:00] | mini-morfic: | catphish: trying that too |
| [02:39:00] | catphish: | kk |
| [02:40:00] | StringBlade: | that's what I'm thinking. no mixer settings wouldn't allow you to change the volume (or mute) but it certainly wouldn't mute it — you'd need to amp/tv remote to mute unless your sound is coming out of your pc speakers |
| [02:40:00] | StringBlade: | s/to/the/ |
| [02:43:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: then it wont do it and it doesnt touch volume either |
| [02:43:00] | mini-morfic: | catphish: if i turn on Line then it wont turn it off |
| [02:43:00] | mini-morfic: | also it leaves it on when i exit mythtv |
| [02:43:00] | catphish: | yeah, its supposed to leave it alone... |
| [02:43:00] | mini-morfic: | it should unmute Line, let me watch tv, then mute it when i exit |
| [02:44:00] | catphish: | why would it want to do that? |
| [02:44:00] | mini-morfic: | cause that is how tuner apps typically work |
| [02:44:00] | catphish: | nah |
| [02:44:00] | catphish: | myth takes input from the tuner even when the frontend isnt running |
| [02:45:00] | mini-morfic: | then how can i tell the backend to unmute when front end connects and mute when it disconnects |
| [02:45:00] | catphish: | why would u ever want to mute it? |
| [02:46:00] | mini-morfic: | cause who wants it running when you are not watching it? |
| [02:48:00] | StringBlade: | as it was explained to me in the #alsa forum, the sound is either there or it isn't on a device (such as line in) you simply feed that information to an output device or a file when you want it – it never stops per se |
| [02:48:00] | catphish: | which volume setting are we talking about |
| [02:48:00] | StringBlade: | that said, I'm not sure exactly how myth handles sending audio to the output |
| [02:48:00] | mini-morfic: | catphish: Line |
| [02:48:00] | catphish: | line in from the tuner? |
| [02:48:00] | mini-morfic: | yes |
| [02:48:00] | StringBlade: | 'cause I don't have any mixer settings, but myth starts sending audio data when I Watch TV and stops when I exit |
| [02:48:00] | catphish: | that should always be on |
| [02:48:00] | catphish: | that way myth can get data when its recording |
| [02:49:00] | StringBlade: | wait a sec, the audio from the tuner should be coming in with the mpeg data on /dev/video0 |
| [02:49:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: that would work too, but when i tried w/o mixer it left it on when i closed it |
| [02:49:00] | StringBlade: | line in is the line in on your sound card |
| [02:49:00] | StringBlade: | so unless you have some line out from your card to the line in of your sound card, I don't see how the tuner sound could be line in |
| [02:50:00] | mini-morfic: | this thing came with a patch cable, if i dont have to use it that would work too |
| [02:50:00] | catphish: | the only controls that ever need to change are the pcm mute and pcm level on the dsp output |
| [02:50:00] | StringBlade: | so you *do* have a line coming out of your video card into your sound card? |
| [02:50:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: i do |
| [02:50:00] | StringBlade: | exactly |
| [02:51:00] | catphish: | and that should always be active |
| [02:51:00] | StringBlade: | yes, the line in will always have sound on it |
| [02:51:00] | StringBlade: | what you probably want to do is unplug that line and just use the sound from the tuner that's mixed in with the video from /dev/video0 |
| [02:52:00] | StringBlade: | then you don't need to worry about the capture device or the line out |
| [02:52:00] | StringBlade: | the only thing you'll worry about is the alsa pcm out level |
| [02:52:00] | mini-morfic: | ok let me pull it and see if i get sound back |
| [02:53:00] | mini-morfic: | ok patch cable dead |
| [02:53:00] | mini-morfic: | i mean unplugged |
| [02:53:00] | StringBlade: | make sure PCM is unmuted in alsamixer |
| [02:54:00] | StringBlade: | you should only get sound then when you start watching tv (reading from /dev/video0) |
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| [02:56:00] | mini-morfic: | unmuted but no sound now, using ALSA:default, no mixer |
| [02:57:00] | StringBlade: | do you get sound with 'cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg' ? |
| [02:59:00] | mini-morfic: | while watching tv? no |
| [02:59:00] | GotD0t: | you know you can run mplayer directly off /dev/video |
| [02:59:00] | StringBlade: | yeah |
| [03:00:00] | StringBlade: | mini-morfic: what's your .asoundrc look like? |
| [03:00:00] | StringBlade: | feel free to use http://pastebin.com if it's big |
| [03:00:00] | StringBlade: | you should probably have an entry like this: |
| [03:01:00] | StringBlade: | # Control device (mixer, etc.) for the cmipci card |
| [03:01:00] | StringBlade: | ctl.digital { |
| [03:01:00] | StringBlade: | type hw |
| [03:01:00] | StringBlade: | card 0 |
| [03:01:00] | StringBlade: | } |
| [03:02:00] | StringBlade: | well, maybe not that |
| [03:02:00] | StringBlade: | since that's for digital |
| [03:03:00] | StringBlade: | this is an excellent page for understanding ALSA: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/DigitalSoundHowTo |
| [03:03:00] | StringBlade: | but it's geared toward digital out |
| [03:03:00] | StringBlade: | so I you'll have to play with stuff a bit |
| [03:06:00] | mini-morfic: | well i went to alsa-project.org went to my turtle beach santa cruz and pasted the tiny .asoundrc |
| [03:06:00] | mini-morfic: | i am on that page, all i see is nforce2/4 and dmix stuff, |
| [03:06:00] | mini-morfic: | ill go back to step one |
| [03:07:00] | mini-morfic: | check what i might have forgotten module wise |
| [03:07:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, I was just going to suggest: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ as an asoundrc starting point |
| [03:08:00] | StringBlade: | once you find your card (and more specifically your driver) there's a sample asoundrc file that should work for non-digital sound |
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| [03:19:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/ . . . odule=cs46xx i got the most basic defenition they give as example on that page |
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| [03:42:00] | mini-morfic: | hm, it's late, ill have to deal with the patch cable some longer, till i can get the sound from the device not via Line in |
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| [03:47:00] | mini-morfic: | thanks for all the help and patience |
| [03:48:00] | StringBlade: | sorry I don't know alsa better |
| [03:48:00] | catphish: | tra-la-la-la-la-la-la-a |
| [03:48:00] | mini-morfic: | StringBlade: likewise ;) |
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| [03:49:00] | mini-morfic: | could be so many things, udev issue, i never had udev or bttv in linux before, so all sorts of things could be the case, anytime i see something gentoo specific i keep on adding on |
| [03:49:00] | mini-morfic: | 'night, it's late already |
| [03:49:00] | catphish: | cya |
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| [04:15:00] | mechtn: | hey guys |
| [04:15:00] | mechtn: | whats happening |
| [04:15:00] | mechtn: | i've not found a ton of info on mythtv and my ati wonder pro card |
| [04:16:00] | mechtn: | so i was wondering if it will be able to record a show while i'm watching tv on another channel |
| [04:18:00] | xris: | mechtn: doesn't matter what card you have. one tuner == one channel. |
| [04:18:00] | mechtn: | oh ok cool.. that answers that |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | only decent dual-tuner card I know of is the pvr-500 |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | support is beta, but it works for some people |
| [04:25:00] | mechtn: | hrm, i got fedora core 3 installed |
| [04:25:00] | mechtn: | you think i'll have a hard time installing? |
| [04:29:00] | Cromz: | xris: nuvexport :) rocking.. had all the crap running on my system and still getting about 40fps to vcd ;) |
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| [04:33:00] | defaultro: | good evening xris, what did you select for your commercial flagging or skip? |
| [04:33:00] | catphish: | is "I'm in mythlib draining" a problem? |
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| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I've run out of nuv2avi energy today |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | libmp3lame decoding is blowing away the thread it's running in, and I can't figure out why... I'll have to look at it tomorrow night |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | probably something REALLY stupid |
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| [04:51:00] | cold_boot: | i'm having a weird problem |
| [04:52:00] | cold_boot: | mythfrontend won't schedule a recording on my one system |
| [04:52:00] | cold_boot: | but mythweb will on that same system |
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| [05:16:00] | GG26: | ./setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.17.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [05:16:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: you using mythmusic wiht alsa? |
| [05:16:00] | GG26: | so i googled and added /usr/local/lib to that ld.so file |
| [05:16:00] | GG26: | doesnt help |
| [05:17:00] | GG26: | and yes the so exists in there |
| [05:17:00] | mishehu: | GG26: did you run ldconfig? |
| [05:17:00] | GG26: | aha! brilliant. thank you mishehu |
| [05:17:00] | catphish: | GG26: why dont you install it |
| [05:18:00] | Beirdo: | no, I don't use alsa |
| [05:19:00] | mishehu: | hmmm. |
| [05:19:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: why not? |
| [05:19:00] | mishehu: | OSS is deprecated ;-) |
| [05:19:00] | Beirdo: | so what? |
| [05:19:00] | Beirdo: | it works |
| [05:19:00] | catphish: | alsa does have a lot of issues |
| [05:20:00] | catphish: | and oss ist depreciated, oss-free is |
| [05:20:00] | catphish: | but it still works |
| [05:20:00] | cold_boot: | what card do u have |
| [05:20:00] | catphish: | i thought about buying oss but i couldnt get it running under gentoo |
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| [05:21:00] | mishehu: | I've had very few, if any, issues... and i've used alsa since before it was known as alsa... back when it was the gravis ultrasound project drivers |
| [05:22:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [05:22:00] | Beirdo: | oy, I should go to bed |
| [05:22:00] | catphish: | everything has issues |
| [05:22:00] | mishehu: | but nonetheless, mythmusic is an exception to the programs I run. it seems to require an .asoundrc file... which I made. |
| [05:22:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: night |
| [05:22:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: nah, sleep when you're dead |
| [05:22:00] | mishehu: | you'll have all eternity then. |
| [05:22:00] | catphish: | my mythtv requires an asoundrc |
| [05:22:00] | Beirdo: | just put the new AMD64 3000+ onto the motherboard and into the Sonata |
| [05:22:00] | catphish: | unfortunately the sameascoundrc breaks mythmusic |
| [05:22:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: antec sonata piano case? |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | but I don't feel like wiring it all up tonight |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | Yup |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | my 4th :) |
| [05:23:00] | catphish: | cya Beirdo |
| [05:23:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: nice case. unfortunately the power supply that comes with it is only a 20 pin atx... |
| [05:23:00] | ** catphish isnt sleeping tonight ** | |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | I ain't goin anywhere yet |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | umm |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | no it isn't |
| [05:23:00] | catphish: | alright |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | it has the +12V connector too |
| [05:24:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: you were able to get a 24 pin ATX connector on yours? |
| [05:24:00] | Beirdo: | There's no such thing |
| [05:24:00] | catphish: | i thought there was only 1 atx connector |
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| [05:24:00] | Beirdo: | ATX connectors come in one style |
| [05:24:00] | mishehu: | no. there is a 24 pin ATX. |
| [05:24:00] | catphish: | theres an addon connector, 4 pin 12v |
| [05:24:00] | mishehu: | no no no |
| [05:24:00] | mishehu: | it's a new ATX standard. |
| [05:24:00] | Beirdo: | then it's not ATX |
| [05:24:00] | catphish: | well i've never seen one |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: atx 2.0 perhaps |
| [05:25:00] | catphish: | so i wouldnt b disapointed if my case didnt copme with one |
| [05:25:00] | Beirdo: | what motherboard uses it? |
| [05:25:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, how's cvs today? |
| [05:25:00] | Beirdo: | all the new AMD64 ones use the standard |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: look at the A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo. it's not got a 20 pin ATX power connecter on it. |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | from asus |
| [05:25:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: check it out, try it and tell us :) |
| [05:25:00] | defaultro: | :)_ |
| [05:25:00] | catphish: | its still a versioning sustem |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | I have two systems here that use the new 24 pin ATX connectors. |
| [05:26:00] | GG26: | shoudl you run setup as root or user |
| [05:26:00] | catphish: | user can run it |
| [05:26:00] | catphish: | (i think) |
| [05:27:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: google ATX 2.0 24 pin |
| [05:27:00] | mishehu: | you'll see that it is very much out there. |
| [05:27:00] | catphish: | seems pointless to me |
| [05:27:00] | catphish: | ATX does its job nicely |
| [05:27:00] | GG26: | Database error was: |
| [05:27:00] | GG26: | Driver not loaded |
| [05:27:00] | mini-morfic: | ok, no offset is one hour ahead of me, auto is one hour ahead, +1 and -1 are off too, Spurs game kept me awake, figured might as well try to fix one more thing |
| [05:27:00] | GG26: | i have mysql running and i have the database created |
| [05:27:00] | catphish: | and u need the 12v near the cpu anyway |
| [05:27:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [05:28:00] | Beirdo: | it's been fine for every board I've used so far |
| [05:28:00] | catphish: | dunno how much power an a64 uses |
| [05:28:00] | catphish: | but i wouldnt want it run accross the mobo |
| [05:29:00] | defaultro: | wow, LIBVERSION = 0.18 |
| [05:29:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: proc idles at about 34 deg. celcius. I'm happy so far. ;-) |
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| [05:29:00] | Beirdo: | sweet, huh? |
| [05:30:00] | mishehu: | running dual boot. will need to get my hands on winxp 64bit when it comes out, and in the meantime I've thrown regular x86 winxp... then tomorrow i hope I have time to throw slackware on it. |
| [05:30:00] | catphish: | i want an a64, but i really see no need to buy one |
| [05:30:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: definitely. and it's damn fast. |
| [05:30:00] | mishehu: | got the 3500+ |
| [05:30:00] | catphish: | mishehu: duwnload the beta |
| [05:30:00] | Beirdo: | fast, quiet and low temperature |
| [05:30:00] | mishehu: | catphish: do you have athlons already? |
| [05:30:00] | catphish: | has to be worth a try |
| [05:30:00] | catphish: | i have ath XPs |
| [05:30:00] | mishehu: | catphish: am debating. usually with the betas you have to reinstall when the "stable" release comes out. |
| [05:31:00] | mishehu: | so it's additional work. |
| [05:31:00] | catphish: | yes |
| [05:31:00] | catphish: | depends whather ur in a hurry really |
| [05:31:00] | catphish: | but i like playing with new stuff |
| [05:31:00] | catphish: | and it probably performs better |
| [05:31:00] | mishehu: | catphish: put it to you this way, I have an Athlon XP 3200+... it *idles* at about 50 deg. celcius... that's already reason to replace it. ;-) |
| [05:32:00] | catphish: | i understand, my athxp 3000 is water cooled |
| [05:32:00] | mishehu: | one thing I don't understand is, I threw in 4 dimms of pc3200 ram, and the bios detects it as ddr 333.... it should be detecting as ddr 400... |
| [05:32:00] | catphish: | maybe one of them was mislabeles |
| [05:32:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [05:32:00] | catphish: | *mislabeled |
| [05:32:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [05:33:00] | mishehu: | or perhaps there's a bug in the bios code. |
| [05:33:00] | catphish: | try manually setting the speed |
| [05:33:00] | mishehu: | catphish: there was voltage setting, no speed setting |
| [05:33:00] | Beirdo: | which motherboard? |
| [05:33:00] | catphish: | mine has speed setting in the bios |
| [05:33:00] | catphish: | and my mobo is uber cheap |
| [05:34:00] | catphish: | but oh well |
| [05:34:00] | catphish: | try putting them in 1 at a time |
| [05:34:00] | doggkruse: | how much ram is typically good for a combo front/backend? |
| [05:34:00] | catphish: | im running one with 512 3200 |
| [05:34:00] | catphish: | no trouble |
| [05:35:00] | doggkruse: | hmm |
| [05:35:00] | doggkruse: | i have 512 |
| [05:35:00] | doggkruse: | but it all seems to be used |
| [05:35:00] | catphish: | linux uses all ur ram |
| [05:35:00] | catphish: | its supposed to |
| [05:35:00] | doggkruse: | and I get quite a bit of swapping |
| [05:35:00] | catphish: | now thats odd |
| [05:35:00] | doggkruse: | it's supposed to use all? |
| [05:35:00] | catphish: | what cpu? |
| [05:35:00] | doggkruse: | via c3 |
| [05:36:00] | catphish: | actually i lie, my ram's not full |
| [05:37:00] | catphish: | my myth box has 512 ram |
| [05:37:00] | doggkruse: | not swapping at the moment but I just rebooted |
| [05:37:00] | mishehu: | catphish: I'll have to test it later. I did a mistake of adding ram and updating bios at the same time... not a very scientific method ;-) |
| [05:37:00] | catphish: | its only got 50 free |
| [05:37:00] | doggkruse: | http://wireless.kicks-ass.org/phpsysinfo |
| [05:37:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: which mobo? |
| [05:39:00] | catphish: | doggkruse: thats healthy |
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| [05:40:00] | catphish: | doggkruse: thats healthy |
| [05:40:00] | Beirdo: | I'll show you healthy... |
| [05:41:00] | doggkruse: | so its okay to have < 6 mb free? |
| [05:41:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: asus a8n-sli deluxe |
| [05:41:00] | catphish: | i think so |
| [05:41:00] | ** Beirdo rams a shredded wheat down catphish's throat :) ** | |
| [05:41:00] | catphish: | mine only has 50 |
| [05:41:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu; ahh. you planning to run SLI? |
| [05:41:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: not really. but I got a good price on the mobo. |
| [05:41:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: that wasnt very nice |
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| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | catphish: I know :) It was fun though |
| [05:42:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [05:42:00] | mishehu: | but the board has nforce4 on it |
| [05:42:00] | catphish: | ooo |
| [05:42:00] | catphish: | (thats me being impressed) |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, you can get nforce4 without wasting money on SLI that you won't use :) |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | but if the deal was good :) |
| [05:43:00] | ** catphish sets the topic to "hardware discussion" ** | |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | yeah, no kidding. |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | SLI has to be the most marketing oriented drivel ever..... |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | My winblows box has nforce4 |
| [05:43:00] | mishehu: | better than no discussion no? |
| [05:43:00] | catphish: | i wasnt complaining, merely poking fun at it |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | and I have one nforce3 in production, and a second that should be soon |
| [05:43:00] | mishehu: | ah ok |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | and an nforce2 |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:44:00] | mishehu: | (e)nforce |
| [05:44:00] | mishehu: | heh. |
| [05:44:00] | catphish: | i have an nforce something in my desktop |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | what sw in the next two years will even use SLI? |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | hi Beirdo, question about this screenshot, http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/epgvideo.png, how do I get those logos shown on my mythtv? |
| [05:44:00] | catphish: | u cant |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [05:44:00] | catphish: | defaultro: u need to find a link that works |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | works for me :) |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | mchou, saw neighbor's comcast and regular analog. He's got a HDTV with built-in tuner. He can display 3 HD channels |
| [05:45:00] | Beirdo: | I think there's a script in contrib that sucks them down |
| [05:45:00] | catphish: | a |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | mchou, what do I do to let it show? |
| [05:45:00] | catphish: | sorry my irc client left the comma in |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | 3 HD channels. What a waste |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | but he's only paying the basic |
| [05:46:00] | catphish: | id like to get logos actually |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | defaultro: ead the docs. need d/l icons. |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | logos. whatever. |
| [05:46:00] | catphish: | defaultro: look in the channels table in the database |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | then? |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | which column? |
| [05:46:00] | catphish: | use ur brain |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [05:46:00] | catphish: | there may or may not be one for logo |
| [05:46:00] | catphish: | if there is, then that one |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | bam, gotcha, icon is NULL |
| [05:47:00] | catphish: | otherwise maybe u need to put them in a folder somewhere |
| [05:47:00] | catphish: | RTM(cos i havent) |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | what should the value? |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you dont record the world poker tour? :) |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | np |
| [05:47:00] | catphish: | maybe a path to a logo? |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you should :) |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | i need to buy another air2pc |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | i'm having conflicts now :) |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | i also need to add my other 40g |
| [05:48:00] | catphish: | id love to see live tv in the myth main menu, MCE style |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | but couldnt find a nice howto |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | I get conflicts with 3 tuners |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:48:00] | catphish: | but im in no position to write that patch |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | speaking of which, you guys really think air2pc will arrive on time? |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | we'll see |
| [05:48:00] | ** catphish has no idea what air2pc is? ** | |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | when are they telling you? |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | right now cyberestore says june. |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | oh no |
| [05:48:00] | mini-morfic: | Why is my guide an hour ahead after Daylight Savings Time? <--- looks like im gonna have to kiss Beirdo's feet if his stuff fixes this Qt bug that is no longer |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | that's dog long |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | my stuff? |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:49:00] | catphish: | mini-morfic: the qt thing is fixed in cvs |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't do anything to fix it, Isaac did, I think |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | defaultro: if you have antenna you dont need cable for HD. |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | in fact cable sux. |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [05:50:00] | catphish: | well isnt isaac the clever one :p |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | i'm getting more hd than comcast |
| [05:50:00] | Beirdo: | cable blows |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | question though |
| [05:50:00] | Beirdo: | you have to pay for it and stuff |
| [05:50:00] | catphish: | i wanna get my sky digital (uk sat) into myth |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | assuming i get the high definition package, will air2pc be able to capture it? |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | you dont need high def pkg. basic gets you HDTV. |
| [05:51:00] | catphish: | how much cabability does myth have for decoding encrypted chans? |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | i also want the non-local broadcast like discovery |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | catphish: none |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | if you want premium content like hbo, air2pc wont be able to record it. |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | catpish, none |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | and it won't |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | oh why? |
| [05:51:00] | catphish: | why not? |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | why not mchou? |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | because it's illegal, catphish |
| [05:51:00] | catphish: | no it isnt |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | because it will be encrypted QAM, not clear QAM. |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [05:52:00] | Beirdo: | DMCA |
| [05:52:00] | Beirdo: | it would be illegal. |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | but im a little confuse mchou |
| [05:52:00] | catphish: | my sat receiver decodes my sat chans |
| [05:52:00] | catphish: | thats not illegal |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | so the receiver will be proprietary? |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | it will have a decoding mechanism that matches their patterns? |
| [05:53:00] | Beirdo: | if you can find a DVB card that works with whatever CAM card they use in the UK, you might be able to do it, catphish |
| [05:53:00] | Beirdo: | but if the card won't decrypt for you, it won't happen |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | defaultro: what proprietary?? No clear qam tuner will be able to tune encrypted QAM. That's why the industry came up with CableCRAP (CARD) |
| [05:53:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: makes sense |
| [05:53:00] | mini-morfic: | catphish: thanks (you mean Qt 3.3.4 is no longer worked around i hope) , but im sure you agree i should work out my sound issues before i go and run the cvs version, no? :) |
| [05:53:00] | catphish: | mini-morfic: it definitely works |
| [05:53:00] | catphish: | im using it |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | mchou, so that means, i'm forced to get their receiver then? |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you wanna record hbo use pvr 250 :) |
| [05:54:00] | mini-morfic: | Beirdo: the patch that gets applied in gentoo only when you unmask a version that is still masked |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | but i want discovery's highdef |
| [05:54:00] | catphish: | i can understand that using a soft cam is illegal in the usa if it involves reverse engineering encryption to create |
| [05:54:00] | Beirdo: | mini-morfic: you lost me |
| [05:54:00] | mini-morfic: | wow 1 yr anniversary just passed and it is still masked |
| [05:55:00] | mini-morfic: | Beirdo: * Applying mythtv-0.17-qt334-dst-fix.patch ... [ ok ] |
| [05:55:00] | Beirdo: | talk to Cardoe about that whenever he gets back on the internet |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | i know someone here does decryption but doesn't want to tell us :) |
| [05:55:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use Gentoo for myth |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | defaultro: nope. You just have to get a receiver that's cablecard capable. And that wont ever exist on a PC. |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | assuming i get a cablecard, what's next |
| [05:56:00] | mini-morfic: | and i cant read dates, 2005, not 2004, ;P |
| [05:56:00] | Beirdo: | softcam is illegal, and is forbidden on this channel. |
| [05:56:00] | Beirdo: | those who want to discuss that can do so elsewhere :) |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | defaultro: I doubt anyone can decrypt encrpted QAM on a PC unless you do development for "sanction" company. |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [05:57:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: i understand, altho it isnt illegal here |
| [05:57:00] | catphish: | im not gonna argue :p |
| [05:57:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think it technically is in Canada either, but let's not put the poor Yanks in harm's way |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: softcam aint illegal in Canada :) |
| [05:58:00] | Beirdo: | it depends on what it's used for, in some situations, it likely is |
| [05:58:00] | catphish: | lots of places it isnt, unfortunately i respect that mythtv is developed in the usa |
| [05:58:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't like the DMCA, be thankful you aren't subject to it :) |
| [05:58:00] | catphish: | actually i think the usa is the only place ur not allowed to reverse engineer encrypted stuff |
| [05:58:00] | Beirdo: | no, there are others too |
| [05:58:00] | catphish: | i think dmce is ridiculous |
| [05:59:00] | catphish: | since it prevents me from using myth to decode chans i pay for |
| [05:59:00] | Beirdo: | in some places it's illegal to do ANYTHING with encryption |
| [05:59:00] | catphish: | actually thats true |
| [05:59:00] | Beirdo: | you pay to use the reciever |
| [05:59:00] | mishehu: | remember folks, DMCA stands for "Darth Maul Corporate Agenda" |
| [05:59:00] | Beirdo: | so use the reciever and an analog card. |
| [06:00:00] | Beirdo: | I thought it was "Dumb Meatheads Control America" |
| [06:00:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [06:00:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: they're not so dumb if they can push that thru |
| [06:00:00] | Beirdo: | the people who allowed it sure are though |
| [06:00:00] | Beirdo: | and yet you bleating sheep voted them in again :) |
| [06:01:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: they're not dumb. the people who voted for them are dumb... the elected are smart, but very greedy. |
| [06:01:00] | mishehu: | and easily bought for the right sum. |
| [06:01:00] | ** catphish watched the us election, it seemed to me that neither side have any policy other than defaming the other side ** | |
| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | they aren't smart |
| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | they are wilet |
| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | wiley even |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | mchou, I need your help |
| [06:01:00] | mishehu: | a coyote may be wiley ;-) |
| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | many of them are dumber than a bag of bricks |
| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | especially that Shrub fellow |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | wiley coyote :) |
| [06:02:00] | catphish: | i consider mysels smarter than a bag of bricks, and almost as smart as 2 bags of bricks |
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| [06:02:00] | mechtn: | hello |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | I think I'm gonna shit a brick :) |
| [06:02:00] | catphish: | hello mechtn |
| [06:03:00] | mechtn: | man i'm trying to follow this howto but this is a pretty hard thing to do for a complete newb |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | mchou, familiar with adding a new harddisk to an existing volume group? |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [06:03:00] | cold_boot: | ok what distro are u runninh |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | pretty simple |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:03:00] | catphish: | its 6am, im in no state to help a complete n00b sorry |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | should I start with pvcreate |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM, defaultro |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | cmon dude |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | stop talking :) |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | kidding |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | defaultro: yeah, rtfm. |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | argh |
| [06:04:00] | Beirdo: | the LVM HOWTO is well written |
| [06:04:00] | Beirdo: | just read it |
| [06:04:00] | GG26: | QMYSQL3 driver not loaded .... i'm runing mandrake... what am i missing |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | i read it |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | but my confusion is |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | defaultro: takes you thru step by step. |
| [06:04:00] | catphish: | defaultro: read it again |
| [06:04:00] | catphish: | it'll be clearer |
| [06:04:00] | mechtn: | no problem catphish |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | when i need to format it as xfs |
| [06:04:00] | mechtn: | i'm going to try a few things and then head to bed :p |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | also, do i need to unmount my existing volume group |
| [06:05:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you use growxfs command :) |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | i didn't see those in the howto |
| [06:05:00] | mchou: | defaultro: it's there. |
| [06:05:00] | mishehu: | xfs, a great filesystem for huuuuge files. |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | RTFMA |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | growxfs? but i have to add it to an existing volume group |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | (again) |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | gah! |
| [06:05:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: RTFMA == "read the fucking manual, asshole" ? |
| [06:05:00] | mini-morfic: | GG26: looks like you are missing mysql support in Qt |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | you add the disk as a physical volume |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | defaultro: I thought you adding disk to existing volume group. |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: no... RTFM again |
| [06:06:00] | catphish: | again |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:06:00] | catphish: | but i feel i prefer asshole |
| [06:06:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: ah |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | that is xfs |
| [06:06:00] | mini-morfic: | GG26: beirdo link in topic, scroll way down, should explain it |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | then you add that physical volume to a virtual group |
| [06:06:00] | mechtn: | ok cool, dmesg | less shows my ati tv wonder |
| [06:06:00] | mechtn: | thats good |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | then you grow the logical volume of choice |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | but does it know already that it's xfs? |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | then you grow the filesystem |
| [06:07:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: that lvm? |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | or does it automatically do it for me |
| [06:07:00] | mishehu: | I actually haven't used xfs anywhere yet. |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | when I execute growxfs |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | mishesu, shut up :) |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | defaultro: I believe it just grows to as big as it can |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | they're answering for me |
| [06:07:00] | mishehu: | normally ext3 or reiser suit my needs |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | XFS is a filesystem you can use on top of LVM |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | exactly |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | but |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | im currently using xfs on top of lvm |
| [06:08:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: are u a dev? or do u just run this chan? |
| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | but would like to add a harddisk to the existing lvm using xfs |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | catphish: Beirdo is god. |
| [06:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:08:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo is gawd of #mythtv-users |
| [06:08:00] | ** xris thinks that Beirdo is "almost" a dev. ** | |
| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | here, /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 on /video type xfs (rw) |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | but *is* a dev for nuvexport. |
| [06:08:00] | mishehu: | not necessarily any other channel... |
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| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | that's where I want to add the other harddisk |
| [06:09:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: READ the HOWTO and comprehend it |
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| [06:09:00] | defaultro: | do i need this tool, mkfs.xfs? |
| [06:09:00] | defaultro: | am gonna read it again :) |
| [06:09:00] | xris: | defaultro: probably |
| [06:09:00] | Beirdo: | only if you are creating a new filesystem |
| [06:09:00] | mechtn: | ok i just did my apt-get install mythtv-suite :) |
| [06:09:00] | kormoc|sushichef is now known as kormoc | |
| [06:09:00] | mechtn: | here goes lol |
| [06:10:00] | defaultro: | so you're saying that if i already have an existing xfs on the other harddisk(example hda), i don't need mkfs.xfs on my other harddisk (hdb)? |
| [06:10:00] | defaultro: | growxfs will do it for me? |
| [06:11:00] | Beirdo: | did you set it up with LVM to start with? |
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| [06:12:00] | doggkruse: | defaultro: have you already added the pv to the group? |
| [06:12:00] | defaultro: | LVM is setup and it's been running for 3 months now |
| [06:12:00] | defaultro: | im already using it for mythtv /video |
| [06:12:00] | defaultro: | i just want to add a new harddisk to it |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | then read the howto |
| [06:12:00] | doggkruse: | all you need to do is xfs_growfs /video if you have already added the new disk to the group |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | we've already told you the steps |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | not yet added disk to the group |
| [06:13:00] | Beirdo: | and the howto drags you through the details |
| [06:13:00] | doggkruse: | oaky.. |
| [06:13:00] | Beirdo: | what more do you want from us? |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | im just making sure that i am doing the proper order of steps |
| [06:13:00] | doggkruse: | okay, I will walk you through it |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | so first step is to add the disk to the group, then growxfs it, right? |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | yes |
| [06:14:00] | Beirdo: | read the howto |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | so no need for pvcreate? |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | first use pvcreate |
| [06:14:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | yes |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | pvcreate /dev/whatever |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | then |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, forgive me |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | vgextend my_volume_group /dev/whatever |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | you've been like this before :) |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:14:00] | Beirdo: | for not reading the fucking manual when told repeatedly to do so? |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | then growxfs? |
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| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | yes |
| [06:14:00] | Beirdo: | why should I be forgiving? |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:14:00] | doggkruse: | that shgould do it |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | not quite |
| [06:15:00] | doggkruse: | but I have never done it with xfs :) |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | pvcreate |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | vgextend |
| [06:15:00] | doggkruse: | just ext3 |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | lvextend |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | thanks Beirdo |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | then growxfs |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | bam ;) |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | no need to umount it? |
| [06:16:00] | doggkruse: | it says for xfs it must be mounted |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | thanks guys |
| [06:16:00] | doggkruse: | it will complain if it should be unmounted |
| [06:16:00] | doggkruse: | np |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:16:00] | Beirdo: | run man xfs_growfs |
| [06:16:00] | doggkruse: | let us know how it goes |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | sure |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | im testing .18 first |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | just finished installing it |
| [06:17:00] | doggkruse: | its out? |
| [06:17:00] | doggkruse: | cool |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | cvs |
| [06:17:00] | Beirdo: | 0.18 isn't released yet. |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | 2005-04–11 00:14:23.244 mythbackend version: 0.18.20050409–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [06:17:00] | doggkruse: | oh |
| [06:17:00] | doggkruse: | lol |
| [06:17:00] | Beirdo: | you are testing CVS |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | im using cvs |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | yep, testing |
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| [06:17:00] | Beirdo: | it's not 0.18 until it's released |
| [06:17:00] | doggkruse: | i loose track of the version nums cause I always am using cvs |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | im happy with last 3 days cvs |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | so for sure, this will be better |
| [06:18:00] | catphish: | i was about to ask does the version get incrememnted before or after release |
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| [06:19:00] | catphish: | the protocol number gets incremented at some point |
| [06:20:00] | mini-morfic: | yes ! the guide shows the right time now |
| [06:23:00] | catphish: | mini-morfic: told u so |
| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | once I get nuv2avi all squared away again, I'll likely be doing some real mythtv dev work |
| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | we shall see |
| [06:25:00] | catphish: | i think im going to get into mythtv dev work |
| [06:25:00] | catphish: | im finding my way around the code |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | looks like this cvs is hose, first time to livetv and I got this, 2005-04–11 00:27:24.541 Unknown command: CORDER |
| [06:26:00] | catphish: | my myth box is almost finished, just cant get nuv2disc working |
| [06:27:00] | catphish: | i have a very hacked mythtv-setup that does automatic dvb tuning from within the frontend |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | that be jams toy :) |
| [06:27:00] | catphish: | whos that? |
| [06:28:00] | catphish: | might have to bug him/her about a very odd error |
| [06:28:00] | mini-morfic: | now this is better, audio and video out of sync |
| [06:28:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [06:28:00] | mini-morfic: | this patch cable solution is bad with a dvr |
| [06:28:00] | catphish: | i love dvb |
| [06:29:00] | mini-morfic: | the cat test unfortunately does not make a good mpg |
| [06:29:00] | mini-morfic: | xawtv -hwscan does show /dev/video0 however |
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| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | jams wrote nuv2disc |
| [06:29:00] | mini-morfic: | /dev/video0: OK [ -device /dev/video0 ] |
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| [06:30:00] | catphish: | oh yeah hot him |
| [06:30:00] | catphish: | *got |
| [06:30:00] | mini-morfic: | you hot him ;) |
| [06:30:00] | catphish: | shut it |
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| [06:30:00] | mini-morfic: | :) |
| [06:31:00] | catphish: | who wrote nuvexport? |
| [06:32:00] | ** laga points at xris and beirdo ** | |
| [06:33:00] | catphish: | ah chris did |
| [06:33:00] | catphish: | the other one |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | xris wrote it |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | then rewrote it |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | and I helped with the rewrite |
| [06:34:00] | catphish: | ah then im in the right place |
| [06:34:00] | catphish: | any idea why the command: |
| [06:34:00] | catphish: | nuvexport --mode=dvd -v_bitrate 2358 -a_bitrate 384 --quantisation 5 --confirm --starttime=20050405210000 --chanid=2011 --path=/myth/nuv2disc/nuv2disc-skin/tmp/04052100_CSI_-_Crime_Scene_Investigation _ |
| [06:34:00] | catphish: | would reply: |
| [06:34:00] | catphish: | Please specify both a starttime and chanid. |
| [06:34:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm |
| [06:35:00] | Beirdo: | not sure. xris overhauled a lot of the command line argument stuff |
| [06:35:00] | catphish: | either im being a muppit, or something is wrong |
| [06:35:00] | Beirdo: | try without the = ? |
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| [06:38:00] | catphish: | it looks right with the =, but i'll try it |
| [06:40:00] | catphish: | who's paul? |
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| [06:42:00] | mchou: | god, mandrake is so stupid. They renamed themselves mandriva. |
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| [06:42:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [06:42:00] | Gumby: | mchou: wow, you are so stupid. hehe. its been in the works for months. |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | I knew a rename was coming, but "Mandriva???" |
| [06:43:00] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [06:43:00] | Gumby: | yeah, its pretty lame |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | that's just ghey |
| [06:44:00] | Gumby: | talked to a guy that works there. they had a few options but the marketting team chose mandriva. |
| [06:44:00] | Gumby: | I think their marketting team should be drawn and quartered for that one |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | that's what happens when you let marketing make decisions. |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | dumbasses. |
| [06:46:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: how does nuvexport know where to find your nuv files? |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | of course Mandrake wasn't such a good name to start with. |
| [06:47:00] | Gumby: | mandrake was a great name. if you knew what a mandrake was/is |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | the plant or the magician? |
| [06:47:00] | catphish: | i thought mandrake was a cool name |
| [06:47:00] | catphish: | altho i always hated it |
| [06:47:00] | catphish: | (the software) |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | I dont want my distro named after a plant. |
| [06:48:00] | Gumby: | the magician name comes from the plant |
| [06:49:00] | Gumby: | plant root to be exactly |
| [06:49:00] | Gumby: | -y |
| [06:49:00] | Gumby: | its actually an herb |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | lol, that's even worse. |
| [06:49:00] | Gumby: | to you maybe |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | all linux distros have crappy names. |
| [06:50:00] | Gumby: | lol |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | SuSE??? |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | wtf? |
| [06:50:00] | Gumby: | you know what they say about opinions |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | make me wanna go to SCO :) |
| [06:51:00] | Gumby: | its probably best to actually know what a naeme stands for also before having an ipinion about it |
| [06:52:00] | Gumby: | oh. ..now THATS a great name |
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| [06:55:00] | Beirdo: | catphish: the same way that myth does |
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| [06:58:00] | catphish: | ok |
| [06:58:00] | catphish: | of course it has to consult the database for the program names |
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| [07:00:00] | catphish: | is xris around? |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | he might be off having a real life :) |
| [07:01:00] | catphish: | haha what a loser, real life |
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| [07:02:00] | catphish: | i just found myself reading his mate's cider recipe |
| [07:02:00] | catphish: | i can go do real life soon actually, its 7am |
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| [07:05:00] | defaultro: | -L37G didn't work but -L+37G worked |
| [07:06:00] | defaultro: | bam, thanks Beirdo |
| [07:06:00] | defaultro: | i've added the new harddisk successfully |
| [07:06:00] | defaultro: | but i executed fdisk first before pvcreate |
| [07:08:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: found a typo in nuvexport-0.2 |
| [07:08:00] | Beirdo: | only one? |
| [07:08:00] | catphish: | i maybe out of date by now tho |
| [07:09:00] | catphish: | oh well i'll fix it |
| [07:10:00] | Beirdo: | send xris an email, or to me, it will get fixed... |
| [07:11:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: for some reason i thought nuvexport was going to be stableish :p |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | it is stable |
| [07:12:00] | Beirdo: | what are you talking about? :) |
| [07:12:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [07:12:00] | mini-morfic: | haha, i had sound in mythtv that turned on when mythtv started, to bad screen stayed black and X froze |
| [07:13:00] | catphish: | i'm actually wearing a t-shirt that says "i can only please 1 person a day, today is not your day" |
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| [07:17:00] | mjunkiexl: | I upgraded to 2005.0 — now my lirc is hosed. Only thing in /dev is /dev/lircd ... added symlinks at /dev/lirc0 and /dev/lirc ... it seems to working, just no recognition of the remote at all |
| [07:17:00] | abarbaccia: | hey, im using an asus pundit and for some reason when i press keys on the remote in myth, the screen pauses, flickers and then does the action. It shouldn't be doing this. Any sudgestions? |
| [07:17:00] | mjunkiexl: | PVR-250 remote ... which shows as being registered fine in dmesg .... |
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| [07:22:00] | catphish: | mjunkiexl: check all the modules are loaded |
| [07:22:00] | mjunkiexl: | catphish — yup, lirc_i2c and lirc_dev loaded |
| [07:23:00] | catphish: | if i2c is the right driver: |
| [07:23:00] | catphish: | when u insert it, you should get some dmesg activity |
| [07:24:00] | mjunkiexl: | dmesg: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 || bttv: driver version 0.9.15 loaded || bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture || lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) || ivtv: i2c attach [client=Hauppauge IR,ok] |
| [07:24:00] | mjunkiexl: | lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10 || _devfs_append_entry(0): dir: "lirc" is not a directory || devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for lirc/0 |
| [07:24:00] | catphish: | theres ur problem |
| [07:24:00] | catphish: | u have something in ur dev called lirc |
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| [07:24:00] | catphish: | and its trying to create a directory there |
| [07:24:00] | catphish: | remove it |
| [07:25:00] | catphish: | and reload the module |
| [07:25:00] | mjunkiexl: | yea — a symlink I tried making to /dev/lircd |
| [07:25:00] | abarbaccia: | catphish, you seem to know a lot about lirc- can you try to help me here real quick |
| [07:25:00] | catphish: | ah u def dnt want that |
| [07:25:00] | catphish: | abarbaccia: yes? |
| [07:25:00] | ServerSage: | So is somebody looking to help a lost soul get his MythTV sound working? :) |
| [07:25:00] | flouger42: | seems like if i click on backend status it just pauses and the webpage becomes unresponsive |
| [07:25:00] | flouger42: | do i need to add mythtv to some group or something? |
| [07:25:00] | catphish: | i finally got my nuv2disc sort of working |
| [07:25:00] | flouger42: | alsamixer |
| [07:25:00] | flouger42: | hit f4 |
| [07:26:00] | abarbaccia: | yea, so i have been trying with a PRV250 and a PVR150 getting the remote to work. I get the same results with each – remote works with irw, but in myth when i press a button on the remote, the screen locks momentarily then flashes and continues |
| [07:26:00] | catphish: | how is your ~/.lircrc setup? |
| [07:27:00] | catphish: | are u using mythtv bindings? |
| [07:27:00] | catphish: | or irxevent? |
| [07:27:00] | catphish: | as long as irw works ur most of the way there |
| [07:27:00] | abarbaccia: | im using lirc and the bindings are correct i assume because myth performs the correct operation after it freezes and flashes |
| [07:28:00] | abarbaccia: | i dont know if its a hardware conflict between 2 devices or somethign – it's extremely odd – especially since im using an asus pundit which a lot of people used and no problems like this before |
| [07:28:00] | catphish: | irxevent maps buttons to keystrokes |
| [07:28:00] | catphish: | u might consider that as an alternative, thats how i do it |
| [07:28:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm |
| [07:28:00] | catphish: | cant really help u with lirc in mythtv |
| [07:28:00] | abarbaccia: | very interesting |
| [07:28:00] | abarbaccia: | i want to try that...can you give me a place to get started? |
| [07:29:00] | mjunkiexl: | catphish — done — but now getting "connection refused" when trying irw |
| [07:29:00] | abarbaccia: | mjunkiexl, is the daemon running |
| [07:29:00] | abarbaccia: | or try chmod on lirc0 |
| [07:29:00] | catphish: | his daemon isnt running |
| [07:29:00] | catphish: | run lircd |
| [07:29:00] | mjunkiexl: | abarbaccia — when i do .. /etc/init.d/lircd start .... it says ok |
| [07:29:00] | mjunkiexl: | but if I try to stop thereafter.. |
| [07:30:00] | mjunkiexl: | [ !! ] |
| [07:30:00] | mjunkiexl: | I have to zap it |
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| [07:30:00] | catphish: | just run lircd at the command line |
| [07:30:00] | catphish: | thats the easy way to start it |
| [07:31:00] | ServerSage: | Hey all – I have a PVR250, and a soundblaster sound card. Sounds play find using aplay on the command line, and in KDE. But when I run mythtv – no sound. I have ALSA:default for my ouput device, and default for my mixer device in Myth. Any ideas? |
| [07:31:00] | mjunkiexl: | catphish — same thing happens |
| [07:31:00] | mjunkiexl: | catphish — I have the KDE lirc extention compiled... so I can tell immediately if it works or not. Every time I fire up the KDE lirc button will report "severed connection" when it tries to connect |
| [07:32:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm |
| [07:32:00] | catphish: | type killall lircd |
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| [07:32:00] | catphish: | then type lircd -n |
| [07:32:00] | abarbaccia: | catphish, whats the process of switching from lirc to irxevent |
| [07:32:00] | catphish: | that'll run al lircd with errors on the screen |
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| [07:33:00] | catphish: | http://www.lirc.org/html/irxevent.html |
| [07:33:00] | catphish: | read that |
| [07:33:00] | mjunkiexl: | ahhhhhh lircd 0.7.0[9163]: could not open /dev/lirc |
| [07:33:00] | mjunkiexl: | lircd 0.7.0[9163]: default_init(): Is a directory |
| [07:33:00] | mjunkiexl: | lircd 0.7.0[9163]: caught signal |
| [07:33:00] | mjunkiexl: | Terminated |
| [07:33:00] | catphish: | u just remove ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [07:33:00] | catphish: | and make ~/.lircrc |
| [07:33:00] | catphish: | ok i see ur problem |
| [07:33:00] | catphish: | mjunkiexl: u need to change ur init script to run: |
| [07:34:00] | catphish: | lircd --device=/dev/lirc/0 |
| [07:34:00] | catphish: | instead of just lircd |
| [07:34:00] | catphish: | its trying to open the folder instead of the device in the folder |
| [07:35:00] | catphish: | theres 2 answers wrapped up in there |
| [07:35:00] | catphish: | hope it helps both of u |
| [07:35:00] | abarbaccia: | catphish, one final question i think – is the config file the same? or do i have to make a new one? |
| [07:36:00] | catphish: | its similar |
| [07:36:00] | abarbaccia: | alright |
| [07:36:00] | catphish: | but u might as well make a new one |
| [07:36:00] | catphish: | read that mage it explains it |
| [07:36:00] | abarbaccia: | im gonna start simple – thanks for the help – i appreciate it – especially if its a work-around for my problems |
| [07:36:00] | catphish: | just remove the old config and follow the guide |
| [07:36:00] | abarbaccia: | i will – thanks a bunch. |
| [07:37:00] | catphish: | remember to run irxevent in the x session somewhere |
| [07:37:00] | ServerSage: | So I assume nobody has any ideas for me? :) |
| [07:37:00] | catphish: | like in konsole for testing |
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| [07:37:00] | catphish: | 1 mo ServerSage missed ur q |
| [07:38:00] | catphish: | Savage-S: that should work |
| [07:38:00] | ServerSage: | catphish – I have a PVR250, and a soundblaster sound card. Sounds play find using aplay on the command line, and in KDE. But when I run mythtv – no sound. I have ALSA:default for my ouput device, and default for my mixer device in Myth. Any ideas? |
| [07:38:00] | catphish: | u sure mythtv has some input sound? |
| [07:38:00] | mjunkiexl: | catphish --- think i'm golden now; the gentoo init.d script for lircd is pretty much hosed |
| [07:38:00] | catphish: | chech all th mixer settings |
| [07:38:00] | catphish: | mjunkiexl: its only 2 places u need to change it |
| [07:39:00] | ServerSage: | I've run alsamixer and turned master and PCM all the way up. |
| [07:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | ebegin "Starting lircd" |
| [07:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/lircd — ${LIRCD_OPT$ |
| [07:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | eend $? |
| [07:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | I tried adding the --device bit after /usr/sbin/lircd |
| [07:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | didnt' work |
| [07:40:00] | ServerSage: | mjunkiexl – /etc/conf.d/lricd |
| [07:40:00] | catphish: | well do the same thing at a command line |
| [07:40:00] | catphish: | lircd -n --device=whatever |
| [07:40:00] | catphish: | and use the tab complete |
| [07:40:00] | catphish: | and see what it says |
| [07:40:00] | ServerSage: | mjunkiexl – Modify that file to read: LIRCD_OPTS="-d /dev/lirc/0" |
| [07:40:00] | mjunkiexl: | ServerSage — oooo!! Thanks! |
| [07:40:00] | ServerSage: | mjunkiexl – no problem. |
| [07:41:00] | ServerSage: | catphish – I've turned up master and PCM all the way in alsamixer. Any other ideas? |
| [07:41:00] | catphish: | im not entirely sure that ur device is at /dev/lirc/0 |
| [07:41:00] | catphish: | ServerSage: are u using line in? |
| [07:42:00] | catphish: | mjunkiexl: ls /dev/lirc/ just to check whats there |
| [07:42:00] | mjunkiexl: | bash-2.05b# ls /dev/lirc* |
| [07:42:00] | mjunkiexl: | /dev/lircd |
| [07:42:00] | mjunkiexl: | /dev/lirc: |
| [07:42:00] | mjunkiexl: | 0 |
| [07:42:00] | ServerSage: | catphish – My feed from cable is coming in over the cable connector on the back. Nothing is plugged into line in, I assumed it would get the sound from taht. |
| [07:43:00] | catphish: | if it isnt dvb, u probably need line out on the tv card to line in on the sound card |
| [07:43:00] | catphish: | mjunkiexl: then try what ServerSage said |
| [07:43:00] | catphish: | i've got to go, talk later |
| [07:44:00] | mjunkiexl: | I did... seems to work, though the KDE lirc thingy is a little buggy... will probably just --oneshot emerge it |
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| [07:47:00] | ServerSage: | I don't have a lineout. :( |
| [07:47:00] | ServerSage: | catphish – no line out on the PVR250 that I can see. :( |
| [07:57:00] | abarbaccia: | catphish, you have no idea how much i owe you – you fixed my month long problem in 10 minutes!!! |
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| [12:00:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Who's got XvMC on nvidia working without their frontend crashing? |
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| [12:15:00] | the-FoX: | hi all |
| [12:15:00] | the-FoX: | does anyone knows how to use epg data from dvb-t in mythtv ? so i can few it in mythweb too ? |
| [12:33:00] | JoeyLemur: | Hmm... so far so good with KnoppMyth. |
| [12:36:00] | the-FoX: | and how ? i am using knoppmyth R12 |
| [12:37:00] | JoeyLemur: | Well, the "so far" being that the initial install was mostly painless. Haven't tried getting the TV-Out on my PVR350 working yet. |
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| [12:49:00] | JoeyLemur: | We get tv, in color even. Now, to get X to go through the TV-Out... |
| [12:51:00] | JoeyLemur: | And it looks like there's a script to do that. Sweet. |
| [12:51:00] | the-FoX: | how is it called ? |
| [12:51:00] | JoeyLemur: | http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3886&highlight= |
| [12:51:00] | the-FoX: | why not use tv out of graphic adapter ? |
| [12:52:00] | laga: | re |
| [12:52:00] | the-FoX: | what card do you use ? |
| [12:52:00] | JoeyLemur: | Don't have one. Using the on-motherboard VGA right now. |
| [12:52:00] | the-FoX: | i see... |
| [12:52:00] | JoeyLemur: | The PVR-350 is sorta the whole point to this exercise... :) |
| [12:53:00] | the-FoX: | it's a analog card right ? |
| [12:55:00] | JoeyLemur: | It's got video inputs, an audio input, even has a tuner on it. Handles MPEG compression and decompression, and then sends audio/video back out. |
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| [13:05:00] | JoeyLemur: | Ok, that's odd. Purple and green. |
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| [13:18:00] | fridge: | I want to use a different source for my radar images than weather.com, can I just set up a cronjob to overwrite ~/.mythtv/MythWeatherradar.jpg ? or would there be more to it than that? |
| [13:19:00] | JoeyLemur: | Good question... I'll want to grab from the NWS at some point myself. |
| [13:20:00] | fridge: | I've written a small script & set up the cronjob, I'm at work, so I'll have to wait until I get home to see if it works or not |
| [13:22:00] | JoeyLemur: | I'd poke at the MythWeather source to see how it gets the radar data, perhaps disable it and recompile, and then implement your cronjob. |
| [13:22:00] | JoeyLemur: | But this is a very unskilled opinion. :) |
| [13:23:00] | fridge: | well |
| [13:23:00] | fridge: | I'm running off packages atmo |
| [13:23:00] | fridge: | and don't want to taint the setup with source builds if I can avoid it |
| [13:23:00] | fridge: | for it'll forever commit me to upgrading via source |
| [13:23:00] | JoeyLemur: | Understandable. |
| [13:29:00] | JoeyLemur: | YES! Green and purple gone! |
| [13:29:00] | ** JoeyLemur @snoopydances ** | |
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| [13:36:00] | the-FoX: | did someone know what will be new on 0.18 ? |
| [13:39:00] | laga: | yeah, but they got killed by the FBI because they knew too much |
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| [13:41:00] | the-FoX: | oh fck |
| [13:41:00] | the-FoX: | so i don't want to know anything |
| [13:42:00] | laga: | hey NemLappy^ |
| [13:42:00] | laga: | do you happen to be german? ;) |
| [13:43:00] | laga: | the-FoX: did you lookj in the wiki? |
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| [13:48:00] | Robasaur: | anyone around? |
| [13:48:00] | Robasaur: | trying to decide on a distribution to use |
| [13:48:00] | Robasaur: | ive had it with mandrake and want to get rid of it |
| [13:49:00] | JoeyLemur: | I just got KnoppMyth up and going pretty easily |
| [13:49:00] | the-FoX: | what about knopMyth from www.mysettopbox.tv with debian ? |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Robasaur: You will find a lot of varied opinions on that |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | It depends on what you want |
| [13:49:00] | Robasaur: | well |
| [13:49:00] | Cromz: | more like what you know well enough :O |
| [13:49:00] | Robasaur: | at this point mandrake is just having probs having all the libraries to do a proper compile |
| [13:50:00] | Robasaur: | and apparently the ones i need dont exist |
| [13:50:00] | Robasaur: | i was thinking gentoo |
| [13:50:00] | Robasaur: | any thoughts |
| [13:50:00] | Cromz: | alot of people use it. |
| [13:50:00] | Cromz: | I see them asking questions in here about things and gentoo |
| [13:51:00] | Robasaur: | well this linux box although i like to play around with most anything....i really wouldnt mind just the simplest approach to getting myth running |
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| [13:51:00] | Robasaur: | hehe |
| [13:52:00] | Robasaur: | so i guess im just wondering which one seems to give people the least probs before i go tearing down my system again |
| [13:52:00] | agd5f: | if you emerge mythtv on gentoo, will it build with lirc support by default, or do you need to add lirc to your use flags first? |
| [13:52:00] | Robasaur: | its really only going to be used for myth mostly anyways |
| [13:53:00] | fridge: | hmm, that doesn't seem to work |
| [13:53:00] | Robasaur: | Cromz what do you use? |
| [13:53:00] | Cromz: | personally I use fedora and used the myth(tv)ology guide and had little to no problems. fedore core 3 X86_64 |
| [13:53:00] | Robasaur: | hmm |
| [13:54:00] | JoeyLemur: | Now, for me, the myth(tv)ology guide and FC3 gave me nothing but grief. |
| [13:54:00] | Cromz: | JoeyLemur: heh I read it like twice before I started and during the install.. :) |
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| [13:54:00] | JoeyLemur: | Except for the bits and pieces of the guide I'm grafting onto my KnoppMyth install. |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | agd5f: emerge -pv mythtv |
| [13:56:00] | Robasaur: | well a buddy of mine uses gentoo just for everyday use...and he seems to be more than happy with it... |
| [13:56:00] | the-FoX: | has anyone tested epia boards as a mythtv server and frontend ? |
| [13:56:00] | Robasaur: | maybe i'll just go that route to see |
| [13:58:00] | JoeyLemur: | I'm kinda worried about my mini-itx box. Its a Pentium-4 board, and I have my old Northwood core P4–2.4 (533 bus) in it. |
| [13:58:00] | JoeyLemur: | A bit overkill along with the PVR-350, but hey. I'm worried about the heat, tho. |
| [13:59:00] | the-FoX: | i am thinking of building a small epia M or esp based mini multimedia pc with passive cooling. so i would like to know if it is possible and anyone got it working |
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| [15:12:00] | mechtn: | welp, the apt-get install mythtv-suite wokred 100% |
| [15:13:00] | ** JoeyLemur is having *fun* trying to get his IR transmitter working... ** | |
| [15:13:00] | mechtn: | my system found my ati wonder pro card as conexant winfast tv2000 xp |
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| [15:28:00] | mechtn: | hey anyone here? |
| [15:29:00] | mechtn: | this is really confusing |
| [15:29:00] | mechtn: | mythtvsetup isnt doing right for me i dont think |
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| [15:48:00] | mechtn: | i got a problem saying.. |
| [15:48:00] | mechtn: | could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? |
| [15:48:00] | mechtn: | where do i find the IP address of this server? |
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| [15:54:00] | dfgh: | Where does mythtv get the channels frequencies from? (trying to debug why mythtv tunes into the wrong channel when starting, and why I can't change channel) |
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| [16:08:00] | ikaro: | hi \o |
| [16:11:00] | truls: | wonder if it'll be possible sometime to create mythplugins using pyqt |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | hi \o/ |
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| [16:14:00] | ikaro: | i need some help tuning the channels please. |
| [16:14:00] | ikaro: | I have not been to lucky with ptune :/ |
| [16:16:00] | ikaro: | i guess it must be some 'issue' with the ivtv driver.. |
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| [16:27:00] | truls: | hmm, maybe today is the day i dare to apt-get upgrade to 0.17... |
| [16:27:00] | truls: | *swallow* |
| [16:27:00] | truls: | any good pointers as to prepare myself? so i can rollback or recover if the upgrade goes completely to heck? |
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| [16:33:00] | ikaro: | i get sound from the channels, but no image. |
| [16:34:00] | ikaro: | looks like the output isnt right .. |
| [16:39:00] | ikaro: | ... |
| [16:40:00] | ikaro: | anyone knows which output should I use on a pvr350 to how in the monitor ? |
| [16:40:00] | ikaro: | how/show |
| [16:41:00] | mechtn: | could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? |
| [16:41:00] | mechtn: | where do i find the IP address of this server? |
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| [16:44:00] | Anduin: | truls – backup your db |
| [16:46:00] | amax: | mechtn, you sound like a scratched LP.... when you set your backend you mustve entered an IP... if not, just use localhost. |
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| [17:32:00] | hadees: | what does everyone here use to backup files on your mythtv boxes? |
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| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | morning, xris |
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| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | if you mean the video files, nothing |
| [17:41:00] | xris: | hadees: I use rsnapshot, but not on the video files. |
| [17:41:00] | hadees: | xris, huh? |
| [17:42:00] | hadees: | what version of ivtv are people running? i have been holding off on .3 |
| [17:44:00] | ** xris doesn't use ivtv ** | |
| [17:44:00] | hadees: | xris, really? you use bttv |
| [17:45:00] | hadees: | damn i didn't think anyone did that anymore |
| [17:45:00] | xris: | but on my test box (pvr-150) I use .3.2u since it's the only one that works. |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | 0.2.0–63_rc3e here |
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| [17:46:00] | xris: | hadees: rsnapshot.org — just a basic snapshotting program based on rsync. gives me hourly/daily/weekly snapshots using hard links so they only take up the size of a little over one backup total. But I don't back up my video files. |
| [17:47:00] | hadees: | cool |
| [17:47:00] | xris: | rsnapshot rocks. even works with windows boxes using cwrsync |
| [17:48:00] | hadees: | xris, does it know how to restore or do you have to do that by hand? |
| [17:48:00] | hadees: | and how about backing up the database do you just backup the files? |
| [17:49:00] | xris: | hadees: it's a snapshot program, not a backup program. |
| [17:50:00] | xris: | and yeah, I point rsnapshot at that, too. |
| [17:50:00] | xris: | it's not perfect, but it's better than nothing |
| [17:50:00] | hadees: | xris, hmm what about a sql dump and rsync that file |
| [17:50:00] | xris: | hadees: I believe that it has hooks that let you do that. |
| [17:50:00] | xris: | I don't bother, not enough priority. |
| [17:50:00] | hadees: | xris, cool |
| [17:51:00] | hadees: | xris, well i hope to set this up once and never again |
| [17:51:00] | xris: | I have a 40G drive on my workstation that runs backups on all of my machines (and each machine running backups of itself). |
| [17:51:00] | xris: | works like a charm |
| [17:51:00] | hadees: | so i posted this in the dev channel but no one is really around, so here is a question, the stuff i used to write the winamp visualization came from xmms-winamp plugin, anyway it appears a header in that came from winamp's sdk now the header is like 9 lines but I am not sure what i should do, can i just rewrite it slightly diffrent and be okay? |
| [17:52:00] | hadees: | what does everyone think in here |
| [17:52:00] | hadees: | xmms-winamp is gpl but that header should have never made it in there |
| [17:53:00] | ** xris hasn't a clue ** | |
| [17:53:00] | xris: | perhaps it's generic enough that it doesn't matter? or rewriting it somewhat differently would be covering your a$$ |
| [17:54:00] | hadees: | xris, i would say it is pretty much worth nothing |
| [17:54:00] | hadees: | i hate this crap |
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| [18:01:00] | kormoc: | hadees, if the winamp header is gpl, then don't worry bout it imho. |
| [18:12:00] | hadees: | kormoc, i don't think it is, i think its part of the sdk agreement |
| [18:13:00] | kormoc: | hadees, yeah, then I'd rewrite it or use something else, just to be safe. |
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| [18:57:00] | beavis: | :( mythmusic doesn't support non-ascii in cddb file names |
| [18:58:00] | zamboni: | I wish there was some unified libavcodec, or unless I've missed something somewhere |
| [18:58:00] | zamboni: | make sense? |
| [18:59:00] | zamboni: | my ffmpeg segfaults for example |
| [18:59:00] | zamboni: | not always but .... |
| [18:59:00] | zamboni: | sometimes |
| [19:00:00] | zamboni: | a real bugger to trach down, for this user |
| [19:03:00] | ** xris loves trac ** | |
| [19:03:00] | mishehu: | zamboni: you sure your cpu isn't overheating? |
| [19:03:00] | mishehu: | I've had problems when transcoding with ffmpeg or transcode with segfaults when the cpu is too hot. |
| [19:04:00] | ** xris thinks that mythtranscode+ffmpeg is faster for mpeg-based files than for real nuv files. ** | |
| [19:04:00] | mishehu: | nipplevideo files are distracting |
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| [19:06:00] | xris: | Beirdo: kormoc just pointed out that maybe ffmpeg packages don't enable mmx, etc. |
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| [19:07:00] | zamboni: | misheuh sure of that |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | that would be stupid |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | Beirdo: it would be. but it'd be in line with what redhat does with i386 packages. |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | downloading the src.rpm now to look at the spec |
| [19:08:00] | zamboni: | mishehu for example its hasnt been over 36° C since last summer |
| [19:08:00] | zamboni: | and never gets above 46°C |
| [19:09:00] | zamboni: | Beirdo do you have a more recent ver of nuv2avi newer that 0.02? |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | not that works yet |
| [19:10:00] | zamboni: | ok |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | 0.0.3 is out, but it's fubar |
| [19:10:00] | zamboni: | I see |
| [19:10:00] | zamboni: | break a leg |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | I'm about 90% done fixing it I think, hopefully will finish tonight |
| [19:11:00] | zamboni: | goodie |
| [19:12:00] | ** zamboni to date Ive had better luck with mencoder when it comes to transforming nuppelvideo to a commonly readable format ** | |
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| [19:16:00] | chickeneater: | hey Beirdo |
| [19:16:00] | directhex: | i feel i'm probably just being idiotic here, but how do i delete a channel from the channel editor? |
| [19:16:00] | chickeneater: | I went to the LBGP last weekend |
| [19:16:00] | chickeneater: | http://lastlee.com/stuff/lbgp/P4090461.JPG |
| [19:16:00] | chickeneater: | that's me wearing a $10,000 Grand Prix helmet |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [19:17:00] | chickeneater: | it was pretty cool |
| [19:18:00] | chickeneater: | I got vip tickets from my uncle |
| [19:18:00] | chickeneater: | probably worth $800 |
| [19:19:00] | chickeneater: | I had pit suite tickets and reserved seat tickets for friday, saturday, sunday, and also Toyota Hospitality tickets |
| [19:19:00] | chickeneater: | it was sweet |
| [19:19:00] | chickeneater: | and garage pass |
| [19:20:00] | chickeneater: | I didn't actually have tickets to get a private tour, but my uncle hooked me up with his friend/pkv team manager |
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| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [19:22:00] | chickeneater: | and I got a signed hat by Jimmy Vasser |
| [19:23:00] | mechtn: | hehe i got the mythbackend to work finally |
| [19:24:00] | mechtn: | and mythfrontend started without errors |
| [19:24:00] | mechtn: | now just to get the cable hooked up and test her out |
| [19:24:00] | mechtn: | mythfilldatabase didnt work right |
| [19:26:00] | ProtocoLD: | did you register an account with zap2it ? |
| [19:27:00] | mechtn: | umm.. hehe |
| [19:27:00] | ** mechtn runs around in circles ** | |
| [19:27:00] | mechtn: | and if i didnt? :P |
| [19:28:00] | zamboni: | it wont work without an account |
| [19:29:00] | zamboni: | been there done that |
| [19:29:00] | mechtn: | i dont see a place to signup for an account |
| [19:29:00] | zamboni: | its in the docs |
| [19:30:00] | zamboni: | you need an id # from the docs and an email address |
| [19:30:00] | mechtn: | i've read so many docs i'm not sure which one to look at hehe |
| [19:31:00] | mechtn: | i been following a FC3 HOWTO with using apt-get |
| [19:31:00] | zamboni: | yeah its a large doc collection, but consider: its a pretty complex piece of coding |
| [19:32:00] | zamboni: | Look at: Configuring the Zap2it.com DataDirect Service |
| [19:37:00] | ProtocoLD: | mechtn : http://tvbb.zap2it.com/newuser.php?Cat= |
| [19:37:00] | mechtn: | i found it |
| [19:38:00] | mechtn: | ok its working.. pulling it down now |
| [19:38:00] | mechtn: | so i really didnt read much about that site |
| [19:39:00] | mechtn: | i know it says my subscription will expire |
| [19:39:00] | mechtn: | whats up with the site... is it a test site they are doing or something? |
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| [19:40:00] | zamboni: | normal message |
| [19:40:00] | zamboni: | everyone gets that |
| [19:40:00] | zamboni: | dont know why |
| [19:41:00] | zamboni: | but it probably leaves them room to manouver(sp) should they go to a pay system |
| [19:41:00] | zamboni: | (conjecture) |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | zamboni: way off base |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | they get you to give them marketing research info to renew it |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | free for us, free research for them |
| [19:43:00] | mechtn: | i hit ctrl+x and killed the mythbackend |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | and keeps us from screen scraping their servers to death |
| [19:43:00] | mechtn: | now i cant restart another one cause port wont bind |
| [19:43:00] | mechtn: | how do i kill that process completely in memeory |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | kill -9 pid |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | where pid is the process id of what you are trying to kill |
| [19:44:00] | zamboni: | well I qualified my uninformed opinion :) |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Damn I seriously need to kill someone today |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are certain people in this world that just need a good beating once in a while |
| [19:45:00] | zamboni: | do tell |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | zamboni: A real idiot customer that I got roped into dealing with who is A: Arrogant, B: Stupid, C: Ignorant and overly demanding, and C: I want to kill him |
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| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | C&C |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [19:47:00] | mechtn: | ok i've got it working |
| [19:47:00] | mechtn: | except i dont have video hooked up to it |
| [19:47:00] | mechtn: | hehe cause i'm here at work.. |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | how comes it's always when you call someone stupid, or make of of their spelling that you do it yourself ?:) |
| [19:48:00] | zamboni: | so let me guess: GreyFoxx youre in the computer business in some way? |
| [19:48:00] | zamboni: | ) |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | You are correct |
| [19:48:00] | zamboni: | yep |
| [19:48:00] | zamboni: | gave that up |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though I am seriously considering another career |
| [19:48:00] | zamboni: | have a really really small clientel base nowadays |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sick of people |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: it's your come-uppance |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | people suck |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | especially customers |
| [19:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx has a pretty low opinion of the average persons IQ ** | |
| [19:49:00] | zamboni: | you in th eHardware or software/dev side? |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | buncha no-talent assclowns |
| [19:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | zamboni: basically yes |
| [19:50:00] | zamboni: | theI always found that female clients were reasonable and know what theyre doing and know why theyre asking for advice |
| [19:51:00] | zamboni: | its their biyfriends/spouses that are the PITA's |
| [19:51:00] | zamboni: | boyfriends |
| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:51:00] | zamboni: | imho |
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| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | well my users aren't like ISP end users bitching about their cable modem being slow heh, but yeah I've been there |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | men are stupid, we should know that by now. We think with the little head too much |
| [19:52:00] | zamboni: | lol |
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| [20:29:00] | mechtn: | ok quick question |
| [20:29:00] | mechtn: | i hooked the sucker up to a coax cable |
| [20:29:00] | mechtn: | i'm not 100% sure if they have me turned on but they said they do have this connection turned up |
| [20:30:00] | mechtn: | the cable company said.. |
| [20:30:00] | mechtn: | but i get a green screen when i say watch tv |
| [20:33:00] | amax: | why don't you first make sure the coax cable has a signal before asking? |
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| [20:40:00] | mechtn_: | the cable company told me its up :) |
| [20:40:00] | mechtn_: | sorry keep losing internet connection |
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| [20:54:00] | directhex: | gah |
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| [20:54:00] | directhex: | what the hell does "Session management error: could not open network socket" actually MEAN? :/ |
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| [21:02:00] | TheAsp: | is there going to be an updated mythtv package with the daylight savigns time fix? |
| [21:02:00] | TheAsp: | (for debian) |
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| [21:02:00] | mechtn: | jesus i keep getting disconnected over and over |
| [21:02:00] | amax: | i don't see why not TheAsp |
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| [21:08:00] | AranC23: | amax or TheAsp: it seems more likely that the deb packager (matt zimmerman) will make 0.18 mythtv debs when it gets out... I wouldn't expect fixed 0.17 packages, but you should ask him if you really want to know |
| [21:09:00] | TheAsp: | mdz gets pissy |
| [21:09:00] | kossu: | are there any known issues which might cause tv playing (and recording playing) to play partly corrupted video in 0.17 (and 0.17-cvs versions) |
| [21:09:00] | TheAsp: | is 0.18 expected in the next 5 minutes? :) |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:09:00] | AranC23: | 0.18 is expected tuesday |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | chutt saud he'll try to get it out by tuesday evening |
| [21:10:00] | kossu: | I've had the problem for some time and I thought it's ivtv related but now I realized that the recordings are perfect if I watch those with mplayer/xine |
| [21:10:00] | TheAsp: | hmm |
| [21:10:00] | TheAsp: | is there a not so evil workaround till then, or should i roll my own? |
| [21:11:00] | AranC23: | change yr timezone is the easiest thing I think... I rolled me own and got it done all of 2 hours before Axel... I should have just sat on my hands |
| [21:14:00] | directhex: | argh >_< |
| [21:15:00] | ** TheAsp compiles ** | |
| [21:15:00] | directhex: | this is infuriating and maddening. what on god's green earth does "Session management error: could not open network socket" mean? |
| [21:15:00] | TheAsp: | directhex: amazingly pretty much like it says :) |
| [21:15:00] | TheAsp: | directhex: is it a real error? |
| [21:16:00] | directhex: | TheAsp, real enough that mythbackend refuses to start if run from /etc/init.d |
| [21:16:00] | TheAsp: | are you sure it's refusing to start because of that error? |
| [21:16:00] | directhex: | no, not really |
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| [21:16:00] | TheAsp: | directhex: because it's normally not a problem |
| [21:16:00] | directhex: | if i su to mythtv, i can start mythbackend manually though |
| [21:16:00] | directhex: | which is odd |
| [21:17:00] | TheAsp: | directhex: which dist? |
| [21:17:00] | directhex: | debian |
| [21:17:00] | amax: | permissions on the database? |
| [21:17:00] | directhex: | oh wait, here we are, looks like database password issues |
| [21:17:00] | TheAsp: | heh |
| [21:18:00] | ** TheAsp is pissed ** | |
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| [21:18:00] | ** TheAsp missed ST: TOS ** | |
| [21:19:00] | TheAsp: | looks like i recorded buffy or sompn instead |
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| [21:19:00] | laga: | TOS? |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | oh |
| [21:19:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | the original series? |
| [21:20:00] | TheAsp: | yeah |
| [21:25:00] | directhex: | aha. dodgy .mythtv/mysql.txt files cluttering up the system & causing me to want to hurt things |
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| [21:33:00] | TheAsp: | argh, patch didnt work |
| [21:34:00] | amax: | TheAsp, you need to truncate the program data |
| [21:34:00] | amax: | and re-download it |
| [21:34:00] | TheAsp: | no |
| [21:34:00] | TheAsp: | it didnt compile |
| [21:34:00] | TheAsp: | the patch i found |
| [21:34:00] | truls: | whats a nice way to define alsa in myth 0.17? Alsa:default stopped working |
| [21:35:00] | TheAsp: | truls: works for me |
| [21:35:00] | truls: | strange... |
| [21:35:00] | TheAsp: | truls: ALSA:default |
| [21:36:00] | TheAsp: | amax: do you have a copy if the patch you could send me? |
| [21:36:00] | amax: | negative |
| [21:36:00] | truls: | TheAsp: in 0.17? |
| [21:37:00] | TheAsp: | truls: yes. |
| [21:37:00] | TheAsp: | truls: is your build built with alsa? |
| [21:37:00] | truls: | hm.. i get i mixer attach eror |
| [21:37:00] | truls: | TheAsp: i guess so, using the binaries for debian |
| [21:37:00] | truls: | i'd be surprised if they weren't |
| [21:37:00] | TheAsp: | truls: thats what im using |
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| [21:38:00] | truls: | TheAsp: what do you have set up as mixer device? |
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| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | master |
| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | ? |
| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | ohh |
| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | probably default |
| [21:40:00] | truls: | i.e. "ALSA:default"= |
| [21:40:00] | truls: | ? |
| [21:40:00] | TheAsp: | i.e. default |
| [21:40:00] | truls: | hm |
| [21:41:00] | truls: | you mean the default setting, which for me is "/dev/mixer", or the string "default"? |
| [21:41:00] | TheAsp: | | MixerDevice | default | committee | |
| [21:41:00] | TheAsp: | | AudioDevice | ALSA:default | committee | |
| [21:42:00] | truls: | TheAsp: thanks, got it working now |
| [21:42:00] | truls: | always scary upgrading when stuff stops working |
| [21:43:00] | TheAsp: | you using a patched version? |
| [21:45:00] | truls: | nope |
| [21:46:00] | TheAsp: | do you do daylight savings time there? |
| [21:46:00] | truls: | yep |
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| [22:05:00] | TheAsp: | ahh |
| [22:05:00] | TheAsp: | debs made |
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| [22:12:00] | kossu: | actually my problem with buggy playback is finally solved.. I compiled mythtv from cvs and now it's perfect |
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| [22:36:00] | truls: | TheAsp: you patch the deb-source? |
| [22:36:00] | truls: | didn't notice any problems at the swap |
| [22:36:00] | truls: | (to daylight savings) |
| [22:37:00] | TheAsp: | yeah |
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| [22:38:00] | gpart: | hi |
| [22:38:00] | gpart: | how do i make mythvideo scan my video-directory for new video-files (avi, mpeg)? |
| [22:40:00] | directhex: | it seems i need to learn some arcane voodoo dabase trickery if i want this to work right |
| [22:40:00] | directhex: | *database |
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| [22:40:00] | TheAsp: | directhex: dd_* missing when you mythfilldb? |
| [22:41:00] | gpart: | i thought there was a menu-option like "scan for movie files" |
| [22:41:00] | gpart: | any ideas? |
| [22:41:00] | directhex: | TheAsp, setting up input via tv_grab_uk_rt doesn't seem to mix very well with setting up channels via the channel editor's scan capability |
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| [22:42:00] | directhex: | so i get wokring channels, or i get xmltv info. that's how it seems, anyway |
| [22:43:00] | TheAsp: | 5ahh |
| [22:44:00] | AranC23: | gpart: it's under setup it's called 'video something' |
| [22:44:00] | AranC23: | manager |
| [22:45:00] | AranC23: | gpart: alternately you can make it show it shows all files without scanning, irrc, but I've never tried that |
| [22:45:00] | gpart: | hmm.. dont find it |
| [22:45:00] | gpart: | i thought i once found it a month ago or so |
| [22:46:00] | directhex: | and really, am i imagining the fact that you can't delete a channel in the channel editor? |
| [22:46:00] | AranC23: | it's in setup, like you are re-configuring your playback settings, it might be under media settings under settings |
| [22:47:00] | AranC23: | gpart: in tintivilius it's Utilities/Setup – Video Manager ... it scans when you enter that |
| [22:47:00] | gpart: | huh, whats tintivilius? |
| [22:47:00] | AranC23: | gpart: not sure how much the theme changes things, tintivilius is a theme |
| [22:48:00] | gpart: | ah okay |
| [22:48:00] | gpart: | ah |
| [22:49:00] | gpart: | got to try that |
| [22:49:00] | gpart: | thank you! |
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| [22:50:00] | GG26: | hey i hope you guys can help me here since #kde is being unhelpful and its a mythtv question but anyways |
| [22:50:00] | GG26: | i'm running makdrake. i build kde 3.4 using konstruct |
| [22:50:00] | GG26: | when i run mythtv setup it cant interface with mysql |
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| [22:51:00] | GG26: | it says that QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | you need libqt-mysql |
| [22:51:00] | GG26: | Unable to open database: |
| [22:51:00] | GG26: | Driver error was: |
| [22:51:00] | GG26: | Driver not loaded |
| [22:51:00] | GG26: | Database error was: |
| [22:51:00] | GG26: | Driver not loaded |
| [22:51:00] | GG26: | yes i know mchou but thats what i'm getting at |
| [22:52:00] | GG26: | i tried urpmi libqt3-mysql |
| [22:52:00] | GG26: | it says everything already installed... well its not. so i manually dl'ed the rpm and installed it and it still isnt anywhere |
| [22:52:00] | GG26: | do i have to bulid it with konstruct somehow? |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | most likely you need to build it. |
| [22:52:00] | GG26: | its messed up because i have the old rpms that urpmi installls and the new kde and qt-x11 stuff |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | well no shit. |
| [22:52:00] | GG26: | do you konw where their homepage is? i googled qt and got all kinda os shit |
| [22:53:00] | stoffel_: | www.trolltech.com maybe? |
| [22:53:00] | GG26: | htanks stoffel_ |
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| [22:56:00] | GG26: | is libqt3-mysql part of qt or part of mysql |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's an addon that's part of Qt if compiled, etc |
| [22:57:00] | GG26: | ok thanks |
| [22:57:00] | GG26: | seems like konstruct should be able to do this somehow |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | screw konstruct |
| [22:58:00] | GG26: | well its kinda late for that |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | it's a qt mysql library for god's sakes. |
| [22:58:00] | GG26: | meaning what |
| [22:58:00] | GG26: | kolnstruct is what i used to build qt |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | meaning it has jack shit to do with konstruct |
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| [23:00:00] | Huschi: | i've got a strange Segmentation fault. after starting mythfrontend i get get a segmentation fault after recognizing that there is no joystick. |
| [23:01:00] | Huschi: | im using mythtv-fronend, mythtv-common, mythvideo and mythdvd on debian. how can i solve this problem? |
| [23:01:00] | A`: | anyone know of a retailer that has air2pc atsc stock? |
| [23:01:00] | mchou: | A`: nobody has them in stock. |
| [23:02:00] | A`: | damn |
| [23:02:00] | mchou: | not even the manufacturer :) |
| [23:02:00] | GG26: | ok so i have /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/lib/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so , and /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/lib/sqldrivers in ld.so.conf and i've run ldconfig |
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| [23:02:00] | GG26: | why the heck do i get that error then |
| [23:03:00] | stoffel_: | another set of qt libs installed? |
| [23:03:00] | ** KarlosII askes what ppl use for a newsgroup reader in linux? ** | |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | GG26: wtf are you using kde3.4 if you dont know what you're doing anyways? |
| [23:03:00] | stoffel_: | KarlosII: a kitchen sink |
| [23:03:00] | GG26: | you dont have to be a fucking asshole |
| [23:04:00] | GG26: | i'm trying to learn |
| [23:04:00] | directhex: | i find netcat works effectively |
| [23:04:00] | GG26: | not be insulted |
| [23:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | KarlosII: tin |
| [23:04:00] | KarlosII: | for console |
| [23:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [23:04:00] | KarlosII: | hmm |
| [23:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't do graphical email/newsgroups |
| [23:04:00] | mchou: | GG26: yeah, I'm sure you're doing a lot of "learning" |
| [23:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | mutt for email, tin for newsgroups, BitchX or ircii for IRC |
| [23:05:00] | GG26: | no thanks so you thats true |
| [23:05:00] | KarlosII: | ty |
| [23:05:00] | GG26: | let me guess, you run gentoo |
| [23:05:00] | directhex: | i'd avoid bitchx if i were you |
| [23:05:00] | ** GG26 smirks ** | |
| [23:05:00] | mchou: | GG26: no, I dont run gentoo. |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: irssi :) |
| [23:06:00] | TheAsp: | KarlosII: pan is nice |
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| [23:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like BitchX, does what I want/need. I've no reason to switch to anything else |
| [23:06:00] | KarlosII: | ty |
| [23:06:00] | directhex: | it's highly insecure? |
| [23:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: In what way? You've got a remote exploit to do something nother than crash the client ? |
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| [23:07:00] | directhex: | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=296535 |
| [23:07:00] | directhex: | now craft some more malicious UTF, given idiotic behaviour |
| [23:09:00] | ** GreyFoxx quotes from that same url " ** | |
| [23:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just as a followup, the problem does not occur for bitchx under |
| [23:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | en_US.UTF-8" |
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| [23:09:00] | directhex: | that's okay then |
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| [23:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | The version he reports against is also from almost 2 years ago, non from 1.1 final. Wonder if it's vulnerable to that under those circumstanbces as we ll |
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| [23:15:00] | hadeees: | wasn't .18 supposed to be released by now? |
| [23:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | delayed |
| [23:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | might be out tuesday night if all goes well |
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| [23:16:00] | hadeees: | GreyFoxx, any big changes in it? |
| [23:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't been following cvs since .17 |
| [23:17:00] | hadeees: | anyone here been using cvs ebuilds since .17 |
| [23:18:00] | JWillis: | Can someone help me with X, I can only start it with the root login |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | cvs ebuilds are the devil, hadeees |
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| [23:21:00] | JWillis: | /msg nickserv register <your-password> |
| [23:21:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, no people just treat them that way |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: no, they are |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | if you mean the ones that cvs update as part of the build |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | EVIL |
| [23:22:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, hehe whatever |
| [23:22:00] | hadees: | just the same as using cvs |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | if they take a snapshot at a particular date, that's fine |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | if it's "just the same", why the hell use an ebuild at all, it's just silly |
| [23:23:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, automated |
| [23:23:00] | hadees: | when i want to update i just run emerge mythtv-cvs |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | EVIL |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, do what you want to your own machine |
| [23:24:00] | hadees: | untill .17 came out i have been using the cvs ebuilds since .14 |
| [23:25:00] | directhex: | anything exciting in 0.18? |
| [23:25:00] | hadees: | directhex, i guess that depends on what you find exciting |
| [23:26:00] | directhex: | anything to make my life easier |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | the new MythToothBrush plugin is pretty sweet |
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| [23:27:00] | hadees: | and MythDouche |
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| [23:28:00] | AranC23: | don't forget mythMailOrderBride |
| [23:28:00] | directhex: | i don't have enough douchebus2 connectors on my motherboard, unfortunately |
| [23:29:00] | hadees: | I am working on a Visualization plugin that will let you use winamp vis in mythmusic but its not going to be ready for .18 |
| [23:29:00] | hadees: | i also am not sure Chutt will accept it |
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| [23:46:00] | mechtn: | hey guys |
| [23:46:00] | mechtn: | i'm finally at home |
| [23:46:00] | mechtn: | its working |
| [23:46:00] | mechtn: | but the color is a little off |
| [23:46:00] | mechtn: | something happened and it threw up a msg saying cant connect to backend anymore |
| [23:47:00] | StringBlade: | is your backend still running? |
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| [23:47:00] | mechtn: | I don't know how to check. |
| [23:47:00] | StringBlade: | ps -ef | grep mythbackend |
| [23:47:00] | StringBlade: | ignore any line that has 'grep mythbackend' |
| [23:48:00] | mechtn: | ya i see it running |
| [23:49:00] | mechtn: | root 4347 1 56 17:34 ? 00:07:39 /usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon - |
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| [23:49:00] | StringBlade: | if you restart the frontend does it still complain about not being able to connect to the backend? |
| [23:49:00] | StringBlade: | and/or is the color problem still there? |
| [23:50:00] | mechtn: | prescaling theme images is taking forever to run now |
| [23:51:00] | mechtn: | i'm running gnome and just starting a terminal and then doing mythfrontend from the prompt |
| [23:51:00] | mechtn: | is that ok to run it that way? |
| [23:51:00] | StringBlade: | don't see why not |
| [23:51:00] | StringBlade: | I do that all the time |
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| [23:52:00] | StringBlade: | btw, can someone explain to me why when I chmod suid the mythfrontend binary and I run myth with the use priority threads settings I still get a "must run as SUID to use priority threads" in the logs? |
| [23:54:00] | mechtn: | hrm when i hit watch tv |
| [23:54:00] | mechtn: | it goes to a blank screen |
| [23:54:00] | mechtn: | and kicks back to the watch tv screen |
| [23:56:00] | StringBlade: | so have you done anything to the settings since you last ran myth? |
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| [23:56:00] | Aerbrax_: | hehe my winxp box |
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| [23:57:00] | mechtn: | no i have not messed with them |
| [23:57:00] | mechtn: | gpomg tp reboot |
| [23:57:00] | mechtn: | going to reboot and see if it does it when i get on the first itme |
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| [23:58:00] | mechtn_: | hrm, it reboots quickly |
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