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| [00:15:00] | hadees: | how is the pvr500 |
| [00:15:00] | GotD0t: | as far as i know its just two pvr150s |
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| [00:48:00] | Randall64: | /dev/disk1s3 149G 63M 148G 1% /Volumes/149GB |
| [00:48:00] | Randall64: | woo, more disk that I could possibly use up |
| [00:48:00] | opello: | heh, you're kidding, right? :) |
| [00:48:00] | Randall64: | no doubt |
| [00:49:00] | Randall64: | That should be good for a while though. I can get to editing video. |
| [00:49:00] | riksta: | i could use that up in a week :) |
| [00:49:00] | Randall64: | on what? |
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| [00:49:00] | riksta: | tv and dvds |
| [00:49:00] | Randall64: | ahh, I don't keep much around |
| [00:50:00] | Randall64: | I just have 60GB in my htpc. |
| [00:51:00] | riksta: | i'm just making a huge tar of my whole drive, as a kinda gentoo stage4 |
| [00:51:00] | riksta: | i bet its gonna be huge |
| [00:52:00] | Geckofiend: | heh 568G 302G 267G 54% /storage |
| [00:52:00] | Randall64: | obscene |
| [00:52:00] | riksta: | lvm or hw? |
| [00:52:00] | Geckofiend: | lvm |
| [00:52:00] | Randall64: | Although I was tempted by some cheapass 300GB drives. |
| [00:52:00] | riksta: | do you find it slow? |
| [00:52:00] | Randall64: | I went with a good, quiet, 160GB |
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| [00:53:00] | Geckofiend: | riksta not at all |
| [00:53:00] | riksta: | i have a quiet seagate 160gb |
| [00:53:00] | Geckofiend: | then again it's not like it has to be fast or anything |
| [00:53:00] | Randall64: | This is a Samsung. The Seagate Barracuda is quite loud. |
| [00:53:00] | riksta: | true |
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| [00:54:00] | Geckofiend: | seagate 7200.7s are VERY quiet |
| [00:54:00] | riksta: | /dev/hdb: ST3160023A: 47 C |
| [00:55:00] | riksta: | thats the model num |
| [00:55:00] | NightMonkey: | Randall64: I found the Barracude to be extremely quiet. |
| [00:55:00] | Randall64: | Evidently I have an ST380013AS |
| [00:55:00] | riksta: | i get no bearing whine or actual working noise, but my western digitals whine like fuck |
| [00:56:00] | Randall64: | My deathstar I put in a firewire enclosure so I could turn it off. |
| [00:56:00] | riksta: | can just do it with acpi? |
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| [00:57:00] | Randall64: | Well, I also swapped it out for an optical drive, and the miniatx cube is quite hot enough w/o it. |
| [00:58:00] | riksta: | i prefer gigabit ethernet and nfs :) |
| [00:58:00] | riksta: | diskless node |
| [00:59:00] | Randall64: | I should get a cat5e cable and try some gigE between my powermac and athlon64. |
| [00:59:00] | riksta: | brb need to get the washing outta the tumble dryer |
| [01:00:00] | Randall64: | I did ip1394 but it was underwhelming. |
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| [01:02:00] | NightMonkey: | The 0.18 update is looking very promising: http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/NewVersion |
| [01:02:00] | NightMonkey: | (still in progress) |
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| [01:04:00] | Marts: | join |
| [01:04:00] | Marts: | oops ;-) |
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| [01:39:00] | AngryElf: | does anybody know anything about mythbackend crashing without any error in 0.17? i seem to be having that problem |
| [01:39:00] | NightMonkey: | AngryElf: Do you have logging level up to All? |
| [01:40:00] | AngryElf: | no? |
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| [01:42:00] | NightMonkey: | AngryElf: Has it run ok in the past, or is this a new install? |
| [01:43:00] | AngryElf: | it worked fine on .16, but i did a fresh install for .17 |
| [01:43:00] | riksta: | AngryElf: check dmesg to see if it's a driver prob |
| [01:43:00] | NightMonkey: | AngryElf: So, it's not worked since your upgrade to 0.17? |
| [01:44:00] | AngryElf: | no, it works, but it crashes |
| [01:44:00] | AngryElf: | i checked out the mailing list, and a couple people thought it happened when commercial flagging was going on |
| [01:45:00] | AngryElf: | and i think that might be my case, although i'm not positive |
| [01:45:00] | AngryElf: | but nobody had a solution that would apply to me |
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| [01:47:00] | riksta: | make sure you are running mythbackend with -v all |
| [01:47:00] | riksta: | to get all the errors |
| [01:48:00] | klpt_: | hey, does anybody here use mythvideo? |
| [01:49:00] | AngryElf: | klpt_ yes |
| [01:49:00] | klpt_: | how do you make categories? |
| [01:50:00] | klpt_: | I've got mythvideo running fairly smoothly, and just have no idea how to get things organized |
| [01:51:00] | AngryElf: | i haven't found a way, and don't have enough videos to troubleshoot it |
| [01:51:00] | klpt_: | ohh. |
| [01:51:00] | klpt_: | oh well |
| [01:52:00] | klpt_: | i've got several seasons of various tv shows, and they're tough to get to when they're all mixed together in the browser |
| [01:52:00] | klpt_: | :( |
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| [01:52:00] | zamboni: | I want nuv2avi to work for me |
| [01:52:00] | klpt_: | what's wrong with nuvexport? |
| [01:52:00] | zamboni: | the noise filter option when applied just hangs |
| [01:53:00] | klpt_: | oh.. ok |
| [01:53:00] | zamboni: | == nothing I mean nothing happens |
| [01:53:00] | zamboni: | havent found out why |
| [01:53:00] | klpt_: | logs? |
| [01:53:00] | xris: | zamboni: --debug |
| [01:53:00] | zamboni: | hmm |
| [01:53:00] | zamboni: | yeah |
| [01:53:00] | xris: | run things by hand |
| [01:53:00] | xris: | watch for errors |
| [01:53:00] | zamboni: | I am |
| [01:53:00] | xris: | if you get an error, email it to me. |
| [01:54:00] | zamboni: | hang on |
| [01:54:00] | zamboni: | okay |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | do you have yuvdenoise installed? |
| [01:54:00] | flouger: | any one know how to setup the sound with a tv wonder pro? |
| [01:54:00] | flouger: | me? |
| [01:54:00] | klpt_: | isn't sound done via the line in on the sound card? |
| [01:54:00] | klpt_: | at least on those cards...? |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | flouger: bttv card? should be a line-out on the tuner. connect it to the line-in on your soundcard |
| [01:55:00] | flouger: | i did that |
| [01:55:00] | flouger: | but i can hear the mic if i turn it up on alsa |
| [01:55:00] | flouger: | but i dont know what device it is going to |
| [01:55:00] | klpt_: | well, you need to select line in as your primary capture source |
| [01:55:00] | klpt_: | using alsamixer |
| [01:55:00] | xris: | flouger: did you follow the installation instructions? |
| [01:55:00] | klpt_: | press F4 |
| [01:56:00] | xris: | afk |
| [01:58:00] | flouger: | ahh f4 is it |
| [01:58:00] | flouger: | thank u |
| [01:58:00] | zamboni: | good question re yuvdenoise |
| [01:58:00] | klpt_: | :) |
| [01:58:00] | flouger: | f4 wasnt in the guide |
| [02:00:00] | riksta: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.2G Apr 10 01:59 stage4.tar.bz2 |
| [02:00:00] | riksta: | my entire install :) |
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| [02:02:00] | AngryElf: | so, deleting a program just caused mythbackend to crash |
| [02:03:00] | AngryElf: | services says "mythbackend dead but pid file exists" |
| [02:03:00] | riksta: | that doesn't mean shit |
| [02:03:00] | klpt_: | uhm... means your pid still exists |
| [02:03:00] | riksta: | look in the logs |
| [02:03:00] | klpt_: | which is a big whoopee |
| [02:03:00] | klpt_: | delete the pid, try again, see why the pid wasn't deleted in the first place |
| [02:03:00] | riksta: | no |
| [02:03:00] | riksta: | christ, look in the myth log |
| [02:05:00] | klpt_: | "see why the pid wasn't deleted" means exactly that |
| [02:05:00] | klpt_: | but w/e |
| [02:05:00] | ** klpt_ is extremely hungry ** | |
| [02:05:00] | riksta: | don't talk crap, anyway it's not the pid, its refering just to the file that stored the pid |
| [02:05:00] | klpt_: | *usually is /var* |
| [02:05:00] | klpt_: | *in |
| [02:05:00] | AngryElf: | i checked the log, there's nothing there, and mythbackend -v all is giving me an error |
| [02:06:00] | klpt_: | and that error is? |
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| [02:06:00] | flouger: | can i change zap2it's database if the stations are wrong? |
| [02:06:00] | riksta: | you have to do "-v all" not "-vall" |
| [02:06:00] | AngryElf: | something about no settings found for the backend server ID, and that i should run setup, but if i restart it from services it works fine |
| [02:06:00] | zamboni: | xris: thanks for the tip I had assumed that the install process of the nuvexport ould echo what was avalaibe and what was desired or optional |
| [02:06:00] | zamboni: | so my ignorance |
| [02:06:00] | riksta: | AngryElf: run it as the same user ? |
| [02:06:00] | AngryElf: | "mythbackend" from the prompt doesn't work either |
| [02:06:00] | klpt_: | have you run setup? |
| [02:06:00] | AngryElf: | yea |
| [02:07:00] | klpt_: | did you delete your db? |
| [02:07:00] | AngryElf: | onpe |
| [02:07:00] | riksta: | AngryElf: run it as the same user |
| [02:07:00] | AngryElf: | if i start it up from the services GUI it works fine |
| [02:07:00] | riksta: | as the service does |
| [02:07:00] | AngryElf: | i only have one user and that's what i'm using |
| [02:07:00] | klpt_: | what is this gui services menu? |
| [02:07:00] | klpt_: | is it a launcher for other apps? |
| [02:08:00] | klpt_: | does it launch as the same user, with the same command? |
| [02:08:00] | AngryElf: | i forget the command line for it.....system-services-config? |
| [02:08:00] | AngryElf: | i got it started as root |
| [02:08:00] | AngryElf: | with the -v all i'll see if i can get it to crash now |
| [02:08:00] | riksta: | of course as root |
| [02:10:00] | AngryElf: | now it's not crashing....maybe cause i ran it as root? or maybe for some other reason i have no idea |
| [02:10:00] | riksta: | no, the services menu will run it as root |
| [02:10:00] | riksta: | just keep it running like that untill it crashes and read the debug output |
| [02:10:00] | flouger: | is there any way to change the channel setting? |
| [02:10:00] | riksta: | surely the services makes it log to something like /var/log/myth/mythbackend.log or something? |
| [02:11:00] | AngryElf: | riksta yea it does i was checking it but it gave no error at all |
| [02:11:00] | riksta: | as i said |
| [02:11:00] | riksta: | wait for it to crash |
| [02:11:00] | riksta: | obviously you aren't doing exactly the same sequence of events this time |
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| [02:12:00] | AngryElf: | yea, so because of that, i'd like to have -v all running all the time, how to i change my boot sequence so that -v all gets applied also? |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | no |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | so fix it so that your service manager logs the output |
| [02:13:00] | ** zamboni wonders why the configure scripts associated with the mythtv environment and tools are muted ** | |
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| [02:19:00] | jonr_: | Does anyone know of a small form factor board and case that is quite and can do HDTV? |
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| [02:23:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: Dunno if this does Myth – http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2317&p=5 |
| [02:24:00] | jonr_: | NightMonkey: That box that they show is wicked cool |
| [02:24:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/hardware/desktop . . . 2440p,00.htm |
| [02:24:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: That one is out now. |
| [02:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Wicked expensive, for a SFF. |
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| [02:25:00] | jonr_: | the anandtech box? |
| [02:25:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: The 2nd link above. |
| [02:26:00] | jonr_: | Ah, I don't like the cubes |
| [02:26:00] | jonr_: | but I think the anandtech box is just under 2000.00 |
| [02:27:00] | jonr_: | insane |
| [02:27:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: It's not out yet, tho. |
| [02:27:00] | jonr_: | NightMonkey: I saw that and they show what I think is the suggested price of the box at the bottom |
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| [02:28:00] | jonr_: | it is a sweet ride but way to expensive for me |
| [02:29:00] | jonr_: | I am moving to HDTV and am trying to find small form factor boxes that can handle it that are quiet. I am thinking maybe liquid cooling might be the only answer for awhile |
| [02:30:00] | GotD0t: | jonr_: why dont you just put a regular machine in a soundproof box ;-) |
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| [02:30:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: Hmm... Doesn't HDTV just need a PCI/AGP card? |
| [02:30:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: If it's still a normal card, than any current SFF box should handle the heat. |
| [02:31:00] | jonr_: | the cpu is at around 80–90% so I was thinking it would get very warm |
| [02:31:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: Finding a well-supported HDTV card for Linux, well, that's another story. |
| [02:31:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: 80–90% of what? |
| [02:31:00] | jonr_: | GotD0t: That is not a bad isea |
| [02:31:00] | jonr_: | idea |
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| [02:32:00] | jonr_: | of processor time |
| [02:32:00] | fryfrog: | air2pc or hd3000? |
| [02:32:00] | GotD0t: | jonr_: it was kind of a joke.... but there was this post on, i believe hackaday.com, about making a soundproof box |
| [02:32:00] | jonr_: | the cpu is at 80–90% used when doing playback |
| [02:32:00] | jonr_: | GotD0t: I read the posts so I didnt catch the joke. :) |
| [02:32:00] | jonr_: | air2pc fryfrog |
| [02:32:00] | NightMonkey: | Is that normal for HDTV playback? No hardware encoding/decoding? |
| [02:33:00] | eco: | Is the PVR250 still the best choice for a TV capture card (I won't need a 350, the box has plenty of horsepower for encoding). |
| [02:33:00] | jonr_: | I dont think there is any encoding |
| [02:33:00] | eco: | *decoding |
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| [02:34:00] | jonr_: | or decoding |
| [02:34:00] | jonr_: | IRC wont let me use a slash before a word |
| [02:34:00] | NightMonkey: | I'm not familliar with the current state of HDTV hardware support in Linux. |
| [02:34:00] | jonr_: | there are 2 cards that I hear about all the time |
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| [02:35:00] | jonr_: | one is the air2pc and the other is hd3000 |
| [02:35:00] | riksta: | air2pc is the better but newer supported |
| [02:35:00] | jonr_: | the air2pc is the better of the two |
| [02:35:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: If you have a SFF that is rated for your CPU, then you still shouldn't have a problem. |
| [02:35:00] | riksta: | and the hd3000s analogue features arent yet supported |
| [02:35:00] | hadees: | there is also firewire from your cable company |
| [02:35:00] | jonr_: | hadees: you would have to know my cable company to hate them |
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| [02:36:00] | hadees: | jonr_, who are they? |
| [02:36:00] | hadees: | the fcc requires it |
| [02:36:00] | jonr_: | GCI |
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| [02:36:00] | hadees: | but most of them won't give it to you with our forcing them |
| [02:36:00] | hadees: | our/out |
| [02:36:00] | jonr_: | they have a box that is a cablebox and pvr that has all the ports in the back disabled |
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| [02:37:00] | GotD0t: | jonr_: everyone hates their cable company... its mandatory for telecom |
| [02:37:00] | jonr_: | and they charge 40 bucks US for basic cable |
| [02:37:00] | jonr_: | lol |
| [02:37:00] | NightMonkey: | I heart my sat company. |
| [02:37:00] | hadees: | just wait till we can get all our tv from internet cable companies |
| [02:38:00] | jonr_: | ours is an Internet cable company |
| [02:38:00] | GotD0t: | well my cable provider will probably be communist-cast soon |
| [02:38:00] | jonr_: | you cant use their cable modem unless you have basic cable |
| [02:38:00] | amax: | hadees, then youll need your cable company to provide broadband... |
| [02:38:00] | NightMonkey: | hadees: "Wait"? |
| [02:38:00] | hadees: | well you can illegally download now but I mean a real cable provider |
| [02:39:00] | GotD0t: | well apparently M$ is testing out TVOIP in south america |
| [02:39:00] | NightMonkey: | hadees: Hmm... don't understand, you mean broadcasts/Movies over the Net? |
| [02:40:00] | NightMonkey: | hadees: God help the poor Internet's core routers. |
| [02:41:00] | jonr_: | If the Internet switches to the Grid it would be no problem |
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| [02:41:00] | klpt_: | gha!! mtd is being retarded |
| [02:41:00] | NightMonkey: | All the Internet needs to do is eat a PowerUp, and it'll be fine, for a while. |
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| [02:42:00] | jonr_: | it needs to use its Thing Ring |
| [02:42:00] | klpt_: | it won't run at boot time from the startup scripts, because it complains about not being able to connect to a mysql server – yet I can run the same startup script from the command line, as the same root user, without anything else running, and it works without a problem |
| [02:42:00] | klpt_: | wtf is that? |
| [02:43:00] | jonr_: | night all |
| [02:43:00] | klpt_: | good night |
| [02:43:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Is the init script switching users? |
| [02:43:00] | jonr_: | thanks for the ideas and help |
| [02:43:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: Night |
| [02:43:00] | jonr_: | NightMonkey: thanks for the excellent adice |
| [02:43:00] | jonr_: | advice |
| [02:43:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: Oh, there's better advice out there ;)! |
| [02:43:00] | klpt_: | NightMonkey: negative |
| [02:43:00] | NightMonkey: | jonr_: But thanks for the compliment :). |
| [02:44:00] | klpt_: | I added a whoami echo to the script, and the script runs as root on boot |
| [02:44:00] | jonr_: | lol, but the "...if the box is rated for the cpu then no problem." was pure genious and I would have never thought of it. ;) |
| [02:44:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: But does the script launch mythbackend as a different user? |
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| [02:44:00] | klpt_: | mythbackend runs on a backend server |
| [02:45:00] | klpt_: | it has been started long ago |
| [02:45:00] | klpt_: | the frontend works fine, I have the systemwide mysql.txt set |
| [02:45:00] | riksta: | that's deprecated now isn't it? |
| [02:45:00] | klpt_: | to a degree |
| [02:45:00] | klpt_: | I have ones for each user as well |
| [02:45:00] | klpt_: | they're all the same file |
| [02:46:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Um, ok, now I'm confused. What is not starting? |
| [02:46:00] | klpt_: | plus, root can run the script after boot and it runs ok |
| [02:46:00] | klpt_: | mtd starts, but complains about needing an sql database to connect to – which is on the (separated) backend |
| [02:46:00] | klpt_: | but it only complains when automatically run from the init scripts |
| [02:46:00] | klpt_: | when the same init script is run by myself at the command line, no complaints, it works great |
| [02:47:00] | klpt_: | the mtd init script is the last in the boot order too, so all filesystems are mounted |
| [02:47:00] | klpt_: | and the init scripts execute as the root user – so it has the same environment that I do |
| [02:47:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Weird. What's your distro? |
| [02:47:00] | klpt_: | Arch linux |
| [02:47:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Don't know that one. |
| [02:47:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Well, you *might* have a different environment, since you have a tty. |
| [02:48:00] | klpt_: | possibly... but I'm having a hard time seeing how a tty would make much of a difference. The only thing I can think of is that the /etc/profile settings haven't been applied yet |
| [02:48:00] | klpt_: | and all that is PATH |
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| [02:48:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Are you seeing a connection attempt on your backend when the script executes at boot? |
| [02:48:00] | klpt_: | I doubt it, but let me check |
| [02:49:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Well, the .profile wouldn't get executed, for one thing. |
| [02:49:00] | NightMonkey: | doh |
| [02:49:00] | klpt_: | :) |
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| [02:50:00] | klpt_: | the backend does not register a connection attempt from the init script |
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| [02:50:00] | klpt_: | when run at init |
| [02:50:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: So, perhaps it can't find the mySQL client libs? |
| [02:50:00] | klpt_: | that's a possibility |
| [02:50:00] | klpt_: | let me look at the vars set in the profile, to see if there's anything pertinent |
| [02:50:00] | klpt_: | mmm, polska kielbasa |
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| [02:52:00] | klpt_: | hmmm |
| [02:52:00] | klpt_: | hostname has been set... network has been started |
| [02:52:00] | klpt_: | the only thing not done when that script is run is the full PATH |
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| [02:52:00] | klpt_: | which doesn't matter since the proggy is running |
| [02:53:00] | klpt_: | yeah... I'm really not seeing a godo reason why it would die |
| [02:53:00] | klpt_: | *good |
| [02:54:00] | eco: | Am I current in my assumption that the bt879 chipset cards are be best of the bt8xx cards? |
| [02:54:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Perhaps turning up the debugging on mtd? I don't use mtd, so don't know how that's done – command-line option or elsewhere. |
| [02:54:00] | klpt_: | it simply runs as mtd -d |
| [02:54:00] | klpt_: | from the command line |
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| [02:55:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Gotta be able to get it to tell you what mysql params it's trying to use. |
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| [02:55:00] | klpt_: | indeed |
| [02:55:00] | klpt_: | which is what /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt is for, no? |
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| [02:56:00] | klpt_: | as is /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Actually, for me, it might be in ~mythtv/.mythtv as well. Dunno for your setup. |
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| [02:58:00] | klpt_: | yeah, I have the "myth" user that actually runs mythfrontend, that user has the file as well |
| [02:58:00] | klpt_: | but it's all the same mysql.txt |
| [02:58:00] | klpt_: | everywhere |
| [02:59:00] | klpt_: | I have an idea |
| [02:59:00] | klpt_: | brb |
| [03:00:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: Well, here in Gentoo-land, the init scripts do switch mythbackend over to the non-root myth user ID. |
| [03:00:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: But, dunno about Arch. |
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| [03:03:00] | flouger: | any one knows if the ir port on the audigy sound cards works under linux? |
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| [03:07:00] | klpt_: | well, it doesn' t matter who mythbackend runs as, it matters who mtd runs as. I don't think when it runs from the init scripts that it checks the global mysql file at all... which is totall weird. |
| [03:08:00] | klpt_: | I think I've nailed it, hold on while I test |
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| [03:11:00] | NightMonkey: | klpt_: So, the significant thing in what I mentioned was that the script makes it run as a non-priv user, so perhaps Arch does the same with mtd. |
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| [03:14:00] | finley: | I'm having display problems on my wife's Inspiron 2500. A picture is worth..., well, here it is: http://thefinleys.com/mythtv.jpg |
| [03:15:00] | finley: | it's only acting as a client. |
| [03:15:00] | finley: | how do i fix the display? |
| [03:17:00] | finley: | in the image, you can see "Family Guy" playing on the far left, then the blue field, then part of the desktop on the right. |
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| [03:18:00] | klpt_: | no, arch doesn't do the same thing with mtd, I ought to know, I wrote the script and am the package maintainer |
| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | :p |
| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | also |
| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | I figured something else out |
| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | myth is storing the global info in /.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | not in /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | now here's another weird one |
| [03:19:00] | amax: | durn it! I played with the IP settings in the mythsetup and mythfrontend program, now I am getting the MYTH_PROTO_VERSION errors, is there a way to fix this? :/ |
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| [03:19:00] | klpt_: | myth proto version...? did you upgrade to cvs on only some boxen? |
| [03:20:00] | amax: | klpt_: no, using 0.17 from debian packages |
| [03:20:00] | klpt_: | hmm |
| [03:20:00] | finley: | anybody ever seen this before?: http://thefinleys.com/mythtv.jpg |
| [03:21:00] | daved: | um wtf |
| [03:21:00] | klpt_: | yeah really |
| [03:21:00] | klpt_: | did somebody set scan displacement way the hell wrong? |
| [03:22:00] | klpt_: | that looks even more fargled than displacement could do |
| [03:22:00] | quink: | it'd be nice if myth had a 'screen saver' or something |
| [03:22:00] | quink: | for projection tvs and the sort |
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| [03:23:00] | klpt_: | it's called X |
| [03:23:00] | klpt_: | automatically blanks after X minutes, unless you turn it off – which I haven't |
| [03:23:00] | fryfrog: | i don't think you can change the IP in mythsetup once you have started actually using it |
| [03:23:00] | quink: | klpt_: not what i mean |
| [03:23:00] | quink: | it'd be nice if myth understood it was sitting at the main menu and just went to a default screensaver |
| [03:24:00] | amax: | fryfrog: yes, it looks like that, I will check the actual data in the mysql tables to see if I can change it somewhere |
| [03:24:00] | quink: | but as soon as you are watching a show, it deactivates even though you are technically idle |
| [03:24:00] | quink: | something that'd work wtiht he remote |
| [03:24:00] | klpt_: | the X screen saver is exactly what you want |
| [03:24:00] | klpt_: | it does just that |
| [03:24:00] | quink: | really? |
| [03:24:00] | fryfrog: | how come you can see the bed through the picture? |
| [03:24:00] | klpt_: | it doesn't kick in when there's media playing |
| [03:24:00] | quink: | hm |
| [03:25:00] | klpt_: | but comes on when there's no activity and a static image |
| [03:25:00] | quink: | does it deactivate with infrared stuffs? |
| [03:25:00] | klpt_: | it's one of the xset parameters |
| [03:25:00] | klpt_: | if you do something that triggers myth to do something, it comes off |
| [03:25:00] | klpt_: | mine was set up default that way |
| [03:25:00] | klpt_: | with a blank time of 10 min |
| [03:25:00] | quink: | hm |
| [03:25:00] | quink: | i might have to do that |
| [03:25:00] | quink: | but i am way too lazy to plug a keyboard into my system, so i tend to not bother with lots of stuff |
| [03:25:00] | quink: | unless i can do it via ssh |
| [03:25:00] | klpt_: | http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?xset+1 |
| [03:26:00] | klpt_: | mine comes out of screen saver when I do something through lirc as well |
| [03:26:00] | klpt_: | xset s blank |
| [03:26:00] | quink: | the dpms stuff casued problems for me, it'd not come out of that unless i sued a keyboard |
| [03:26:00] | klpt_: | dpms is bad for myth, but just a normal screen blank should be no problem |
| [03:27:00] | klpt_: | esp because tv's don't generally handle dpms too well |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | ah. |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | heh |
| [03:27:00] | finley: | klpt_: i know i've got dpms on, lemme try turning it off. |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | oh well i might rework stuff for .19 cause i hear it has major changes in the works |
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| [03:27:00] | klpt_: | .19? |
| [03:27:00] | klpt_: | we're not up to .18 yet |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | i nkow |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | but .18 is suposed to be more bugfix |
| [03:27:00] | klpt_: | heh |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | .19 they are re-writing the gui and whatnot |
| [03:27:00] | quink: | or so i gather from the mailing lists |
| [03:28:00] | klpt_: | heh, I subscribe, but I'm far too lazy to read that torrent of posts, I just search it when I need something |
| [03:28:00] | klpt_: | yay gmail search |
| [03:28:00] | klpt_: | xset s length period |
| [03:28:00] | klpt_: | should be what you're looking for |
| [03:28:00] | quink: | yeah i just searched the lists |
| [03:28:00] | klpt_: | xset s 300 |
| [03:29:00] | klpt_: | I think would set the blank time to 5 minutes |
| [03:29:00] | klpt_: | and xset s blank would be sure the screensaver was just a blank screen |
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| [03:29:00] | quink: | and to undo that xset s reset? |
| [03:29:00] | klpt_: | these settings must be applied every boot though |
| [03:29:00] | klpt_: | I think so |
| [03:29:00] | quink: | oh |
| [03:29:00] | ** klpt_ shakes fist ** | |
| [03:29:00] | klpt_: | those things should be default anyway |
| [03:30:00] | riksta: | anyone got an updated set of myth cvs ebuilds |
| [03:31:00] | quink: | i need to find a good way to backup my mythdvd stuffs too |
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| [03:31:00] | quink: | up to 64gigs of dvds. |
| [03:32:00] | klpt_: | dvd burner time! |
| [03:32:00] | klpt_: | hey, how do you start mtd on boot? |
| [03:32:00] | finley: | dpms off didn't fix my funky problem. |
| [03:33:00] | quink: | klpt_: 15dvds, no thanks |
| [03:33:00] | klpt_: | heh, I did a massive file server backup – burned 80 dvd's |
| [03:33:00] | quink: | my myth comptuer is the fileserver atm |
| [03:33:00] | quink: | i had 500gigs of space, until i lost a drive |
| [03:34:00] | eco: | Are WinTV Go!'s any good? |
| [03:34:00] | amax: | wow, when will you guys watch all that TV? :D |
| [03:35:00] | amax: | 64 gigs, 500 gigs!!! |
| [03:35:00] | amax: | 80 dvds! |
| [03:35:00] | quink: | amax: 500gigs total space, i had 2x160gig drives 'mirrored' in a way |
| [03:35:00] | quink: | and my 'media' drive is 200gigs with music and tv |
| [03:35:00] | quink: | every dvd i watch i rip |
| [03:35:00] | quink: | i only have 100gigs set aside for tv recording :P |
| [03:35:00] | quink: | www.optimusprimal.com/phpsysinfo |
| [03:36:00] | amax: | :) just teasing. I use my mythtv box to tape, watch and delete... if I like something that much, I buy the DVDs. :D |
| [03:36:00] | quink: | good thing my backup drive was the one that died : |
| [03:36:00] | klpt_: | I certainly don't, if I snagged something off the air, it's mine mine mine mine mine |
| [03:36:00] | quink: | now that does suck |
| [03:36:00] | quink: | backups...poof |
| [03:37:00] | quink: | and 25gigs of tv |
| [03:37:00] | quink: | anyways af |
| [03:37:00] | quink: | k |
| [03:37:00] | quink: | back when .18 is out :P |
| [03:37:00] | klpt_: | haha |
| [03:37:00] | klpt_: | that'll probably be a while |
| [03:38:00] | finley: | help! Trying to get my pregnant, soon to be confined to bedrest, wife's notebook working as mythtv client. My notebook works fine w/mythtv, but her display is funky: http://thefinleys.com/mythtv.jpg |
| [03:38:00] | finley: | any ideas? |
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| [03:39:00] | riksta: | it wont be a while |
| [03:39:00] | ** FairWtns just showed the girl her new mythbox system. Priceless. ** | |
| [03:43:00] | klpt_: | where does mythdvd store it's settings? |
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| [03:47:00] | ** xris just made his first recording with a pvr-150 ** | |
| [03:47:00] | klpt_: | worked ok? |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | much better than my bttv card |
| [03:47:00] | fryfrog: | nice :) |
| [03:47:00] | fryfrog: | what ivtv version? |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | we'll see how it goes through nuvexport/xvid |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | fryfrog: 0.3.2u, I think |
| [03:47:00] | fryfrog: | groovy |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | svideo works, finally |
| [03:47:00] | fryfrog: | cvs of myth? |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | of course. |
| [03:48:00] | fryfrog: | does the tuner? or does only svideo matter? |
| [03:48:00] | fryfrog: | (to you) |
| [03:48:00] | FairWtns: | xris:If you can ever get an ivtv recording to go through nuvexport flawlessly. Let me know. My settings apparently generate bad mpegs. |
| [03:48:00] | xris: | I only need svideo |
| [03:48:00] | xris: | tuner apparently worked long before svideo did. |
| [03:48:00] | xris: | well, before svideo was color. |
| [03:48:00] | xris: | composite worked first. |
| [03:49:00] | xris: | FairWtns: for cutting commercials, or anything in general? |
| [03:49:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [03:49:00] | xris: | it's still not live in my mythbox (running it on my workstation as a slave backend), but at least it does seem to work. |
| [03:49:00] | FairWtns: | xris:Pretty much all. I've tried a bunch (dvd burning being my favorite attempt) but it just borks and gives me a running time. Haven't really looked into it to tell the truth. But I know that I've had 'improper' mpegs in the past. |
| [03:50:00] | klpt_: | hey, how does one get mkiconmap.pl working? |
| [03:50:00] | klpt_: | mine runs and doesn't error at all, but also doesn't seem to make an iconmap.xml file |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | klpt_: I followed the instructions and it worked great for me. |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | but I know very little about it. |
| [03:50:00] | klpt_: | do you use datadirect or xmltv? |
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| [03:51:00] | xris: | datadirect |
| [03:52:00] | klpt_: | and did you run it from the frontend or the backend? |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | same thing |
| [03:52:00] | klpt_: | ahh |
| [03:52:00] | klpt_: | ok |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | but backend is probably best. |
| [03:52:00] | klpt_: | well, I tried from the backend, and got a successful mesage, but no map file |
| [03:52:00] | klpt_: | oh well |
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| [04:13:00] | StringBlade: | xris: so svideo is working in u? |
| [04:13:00] | StringBlade: | from what I was reading it looked like u had broken some stuff with the 150s |
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| [04:30:00] | phillip37: | hi everybody |
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| [04:31:00] | StringBlade: | hi phillip |
| [04:31:00] | StringBlade: | how's it going? |
| [04:31:00] | Randall64: | Man, Lost is just full of plot twists. |
| [04:31:00] | phillip37: | i have been tying to get my visionplus dvb-t tv card to work with mythtv without luck as yet can anyone tell me what software will work with windows xp so that i can be assured that the tv card actually works at all |
| [04:32:00] | Randall64: | The best show on TV atm, if you've seen all of BSG. |
| [04:32:00] | phillip37: | no luck yet stringblade |
| [04:32:00] | amax: | phillip37: my guess is the card brought some software with it? |
| [04:32:00] | phillip37: | yeah but the stupid cd has a crack in it |
| [04:33:00] | phillip37: | and without knowing what the name of the software is i can't download it at all |
| [04:33:00] | amax: | :| check the manufacturers website then |
| [04:33:00] | phillip37: | i am doing that now |
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| [04:43:00] | StringBlade: | amax: do you use ALSA with myth? |
| [04:45:00] | amax: | StringBlade: yep |
| [04:45:00] | StringBlade: | n/m |
| [04:45:00] | StringBlade: | heh |
| [04:45:00] | StringBlade: | I just figured it out |
| [04:45:00] | StringBlade: | I had been using /dev/dsp |
| [04:45:00] | amax: | what are you using now? :) |
| [04:45:00] | StringBlade: | but I switched to ALSA:default but myth was complaining about /dev/mixer |
| [04:45:00] | amax: | ah |
| [04:45:00] | StringBlade: | so I unchecked 'use internal controls' |
| [04:46:00] | StringBlade: | since I'm using S/PDIF out anyway |
| [04:46:00] | StringBlade: | now it's working fine |
| [04:46:00] | amax: | i think I destroyed my mythtv installl by changing the IPs in the configuration |
| [04:46:00] | StringBlade: | now if only I could get xmms to work with ALSA instead of hogging the audio device |
| [04:46:00] | StringBlade: | that's not good |
| [04:46:00] | amax: | indeed |
| [04:46:00] | StringBlade: | just for fun? |
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| [04:47:00] | amax: | well, no, I didnt know that changing IPs was a big no no, untill I did it. :( |
| [04:47:00] | StringBlade: | you have separate front/backends? |
| [04:47:00] | StringBlade: | so you changed the IP in myth or of the actual box? |
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| [04:48:00] | amax: | no, what happened is I set it up with an IP, my local IP, then I unplugged the computer to test it on a TV, I dont have internet next to that tv, so I switched the IPs to 127.0.0.1, and when I wanted to switch back I got the bad proto thing. |
| [04:48:00] | amax: | changed the ip of both |
| [04:49:00] | amax: | if worse comes to worse, I'll just reinstall everything, its not like I don't know how to now. :) |
| [04:49:00] | StringBlade: | so I take it my first question was 'yes' and you changed the IP of the frontend? |
| [04:49:00] | amax: | yes |
| [04:50:00] | StringBlade: | can't move the tv to the computer? |
| [04:50:00] | amax: | nope, its a 27" wega |
| [04:50:00] | StringBlade: | and try it with the computer hooked up to the ethernet? |
| [04:50:00] | StringBlade: | hea-vee |
| [04:50:00] | amax: | thats an understatement |
| [04:50:00] | StringBlade: | not as bad as a 36" though |
| [04:51:00] | StringBlade: | no smaller tvs? |
| [04:51:00] | StringBlade: | or you want to test out the HD? |
| [04:51:00] | amax: | no... nope, only that one. :( |
| [04:51:00] | amax: | no HD |
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| [04:51:00] | amax: | :( I just installed mythtv two days ago |
| [04:51:00] | StringBlade: | yeah |
| [04:51:00] | amax: | so I am still in the steep part of the learning curve |
| [04:51:00] | StringBlade: | you should pick up a wireless card and a wireless router :-) (802.11g) |
| [04:51:00] | StringBlade: | that's what I'm running here |
| [04:52:00] | StringBlade: | 11b is too slow for streaming video |
| [04:52:00] | StringBlade: | but g should work |
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| [04:52:00] | StringBlade: | not to mention you'll be set if you ever get a notebook with built-in wireless |
| [04:52:00] | amax: | :) I have a g router, so I just need the wireless card |
| [04:52:00] | StringBlade: | there you go |
| [04:52:00] | amax: | i do have the laptop, but it doesnt have a TV out. :( |
| [04:52:00] | StringBlade: | seems like the easiest solution to me |
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| [04:53:00] | amax: | i was thinking about the laptop solution, as it is, my wife is ADAMANT about NOT having a pc next to the tv |
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| [04:54:00] | StringBlade: | how 'bout behind it? |
| [04:54:00] | amax: | no space, we live in a very small 800 sqft apartment |
| [04:54:00] | StringBlade: | do you have a component rack? |
| [04:54:00] | rpete: | xbox! |
| [04:55:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, make something useful out of Microsoft junk |
| [04:55:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [04:55:00] | amax: | yay, the frontend is working now. The re-install worked. :D |
| [04:55:00] | amax: | hmmm,... no space, besides all my pcs are VERY noisy |
| [04:55:00] | StringBlade: | well noise can always be taken care of :) |
| [04:55:00] | ** amax drools at having a watercooled system ** | |
| [04:56:00] | StringBlade: | just ask ol' newegg |
| [04:56:00] | amax: | but I would spend a lot of cash on that |
| [04:56:00] | StringBlade: | I would think that would be noisy |
| [04:56:00] | StringBlade: | 'cause of the pump |
| [04:56:00] | amax: | with all the gurgling? |
| [04:56:00] | amax: | hehe |
| [04:56:00] | StringBlade: | but I did see a silent water cooled system |
| [04:56:00] | StringBlade: | very cool (no pun intended) |
| [04:56:00] | StringBlade: | though it took up a fair amount of floor space |
| [04:56:00] | amax: | yes, the whole case is a heat dissipating thing |
| [04:57:00] | amax: | hmmm, is there a vga2svideo converter? that might be what I need to make this work with 802.11g |
| [04:57:00] | StringBlade: | yes, I believe so |
| [04:57:00] | StringBlade: | $50 |
| [04:57:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [04:58:00] | StringBlade: | not really |
| [04:58:00] | StringBlade: | I don't know the price |
| [04:58:00] | amax: | let me google it. :D |
| [04:58:00] | StringBlade: | but there's an adapter for pretty much anything |
| [04:58:00] | StringBlade: | however, video cables and adapters are outrageously priced |
| [04:58:00] | finley: | speaking of notebooks: |
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| [04:58:00] | finley: | help! Trying to get my pregnant, soon to be confined to bedrest, wife's notebook working as mythtv client. My notebook works fine w/mythtv, but her display is funky: http://thefinleys.com/mythtv.jpg |
| [04:58:00] | StringBlade: | love to help you finley |
| [04:58:00] | StringBlade: | but I have no idea why that is |
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| [04:59:00] | amax: | they are all HUGE boxes |
| [04:59:00] | StringBlade: | they way it is |
| [04:59:00] | StringBlade: | sure |
| [04:59:00] | StringBlade: | completely different wireing |
| [04:59:00] | finley: | StringBlade: thx. you've had a look at the snapshot then? |
| [04:59:00] | StringBlade: | yeah |
| [04:59:00] | StringBlade: | pretty crazy |
| [04:59:00] | finley: | yup. |
| [04:59:00] | PoeticIntensity: | got a dumb question for ya'll. |
| [04:59:00] | StringBlade: | thought the background you have makes it kinda look like you're looking through the tv to what's behind it |
| [04:59:00] | finley: | however, notebook as client is working great for me. |
| [05:00:00] | amax: | finley: just cross your eyes... :) |
| [05:00:00] | finley: | amax: heh |
| [05:00:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm trying to get transcode to work.... and I can get to the GUI for it just fine... |
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| [05:00:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I can toggle the options with space-bar or enter keys... but when I'm done with my settings... How do I get it to actually transcode? |
| [05:00:00] | PoeticIntensity: | (rip dvd menu) |
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| [05:01:00] | StringBlade: | finley: have you tried posting to the mailing list with your problem? |
| [05:01:00] | PoeticIntensity: | there's no "Click here to rip" option.... Am I missing something extremely obvious? |
| [05:01:00] | ** amax needs to get a new tvtuner card, his good 'ol trusty ATI TV Wonder VE is not good enough now ** | |
| [05:01:00] | finley: | if someone's thinking of buying a notebook, i'd definitely recommend going for an nvidia chipset over ati, if possible. much better documentation, less hassle, for svideo out. |
| [05:02:00] | finley: | StringBlade: may have a long time ago, but it can be hard to describe without the photo (which I obviously hav now). |
| [05:02:00] | finley: | i'll try agian. |
| [05:02:00] | amax: | finley: i have an nvidia card on this computer, I just plugged it into the tv, fired it up and it worked. No tweaking, no mucking |
| [05:02:00] | StringBlade: | amax needs a pvr-150 or 300 |
| [05:02:00] | amax: | indeed I do, somethin that comes with a remote would be nice too! |
| [05:02:00] | finley: | amax: yup. have an ati radeon 8500 been trying to get working right for months. |
| [05:02:00] | StringBlade: | finley: yeah, just include the link in your email |
| [05:02:00] | StringBlade: | 150 does |
| [05:02:00] | finley: | amax: plugged in an nvidia today, and boom, there it is. |
| [05:02:00] | StringBlade: | so does the 300 I think |
| [05:03:00] | finley: | StringBlade: thx, string. will do. |
| [05:03:00] | StringBlade: | finley: so this picture is coming out of an nvidia card? |
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| [05:04:00] | finley: | StringBlade: nope — different box. |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | have you tried installing the NVidia drivers supplied by NVidia instead of the stock drivers with xorg? |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | oh |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | ok |
| [05:04:00] | PoeticIntensity: | at the bottom of my screen it says "0 Process Selected Title" |
| [05:04:00] | finley: | StringBlade: nvidia on the master box. working fine w/nvidia proprietary drivers. |
| [05:04:00] | PoeticIntensity: | any takers? |
| [05:04:00] | finley: | StringBlade: box in question has i810 chipset. |
| [05:04:00] | PoeticIntensity: | should be an easy fix... I'm sure I'm missing something obvious. |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | Sorry PoeticIntensity – don't use the transcode feature |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | I don't |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | i mean |
| [05:04:00] | StringBlade: | not suggesting you shouldn't :) |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | what other options do I have for ripping? |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm a total n00b. |
| [05:05:00] | StringBlade: | depends |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | (sorry) |
| [05:05:00] | StringBlade: | I use vobcopy |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm on gentoo... |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | just emerged it yesterday. |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | have a pvr-250 coming in the mail... |
| [05:05:00] | StringBlade: | well, ripping from myth, your options are limited I think |
| [05:05:00] | PoeticIntensity: | time to get serious about learning how to get my media collection into myth and get it working right. |
| [05:06:00] | PoeticIntensity: | yeah... right now I'm just trying to get it to rip using myth. |
| [05:06:00] | PoeticIntensity: | You use myth, Stringblade? |
| [05:06:00] | StringBlade: | well, at one point I actually ripped the main title of a DVD using myth's ui |
| [05:06:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [05:06:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm positive I'm missing something stupid.... |
| [05:06:00] | StringBlade: | but since then I've rebuilt myth from source |
| [05:06:00] | StringBlade: | I didn't care for it anyway |
| [05:06:00] | StringBlade: | it was pretty slow |
| [05:06:00] | StringBlade: | vobcopy is much faster |
| [05:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | you know the "hit here to continue" or "next" or something..... it doesn't exist. |
| [05:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | vobcopy.... |
| [05:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | you using gentoo? |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | no |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | FC3 |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | but you can compile the source |
| [05:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | hrmm.... wonder if vobcopy is in portage. |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | it's very easy |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | yes it is |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | at least according to Google |
| [05:07:00] | StringBlade: | first hit: Gentoo-Portage – vobcopy |
| [05:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | yup.... just found it. |
| [05:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | :) |
| [05:08:00] | StringBlade: | if you're looking to backup the entire DVD as it is (mirror) it's great for that |
| [05:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | and myth will use the format for vobcopy? Does it do an exact duplicate? |
| [05:08:00] | StringBlade: | that's what I do |
| [05:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | probably takes up quite a bit of space.... |
| [05:08:00] | StringBlade: | but playing that back is much harder — still struggling with it myself from myth |
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| [05:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | ah.... |
| [05:08:00] | StringBlade: | you can choose what you want to copy |
| [05:08:00] | PoeticIntensity: | crud. |
| [05:08:00] | StringBlade: | you can just grab the vobs |
| [05:09:00] | PoeticIntensity: | does it compress at all? |
| [05:09:00] | PoeticIntensity: | or just straight copy? |
| [05:09:00] | StringBlade: | I don't think it compresses it |
| [05:09:00] | StringBlade: | but lemme check, one sec |
| [05:09:00] | PoeticIntensity: | okay... thanks, man. |
| [05:10:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, not it doesn't do compression |
| [05:10:00] | amax: | ok, tonite I'll have the big test... im recording a full 2:30 hours... hope it works. :D |
| [05:10:00] | StringBlade: | but you can find other programs to do that if you want |
| [05:10:00] | StringBlade: | oooooooooh |
| [05:10:00] | StringBlade: | :-0) |
| [05:10:00] | StringBlade: | good luck |
| [05:10:00] | amax: | :D thanks |
| [05:10:00] | StringBlade: | Poetic: what are you looking to do with your copies? |
| [05:11:00] | StringBlade: | just rip them to play the main title? |
| [05:11:00] | StringBlade: | do you want menus? |
| [05:11:00] | StringBlade: | do you want special features? |
| [05:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | ummm..... |
| [05:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | menus would be *great* |
| [05:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | (I found the answer to my problem.... there's something wrong with my configuration) |
| [05:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | however.... yeah... |
| [05:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | if I could load it up just like the original DVD, that'd be awesome. |
| [05:11:00] | StringBlade: | then you'll need to use vobcopy (or something like it) and keep it uncompressed (between 5Gb and 7Gb per movie) |
| [05:11:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm looking for a complete PVR solution for my basement theater... |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | *sheesh*.... |
| [05:12:00] | StringBlade: | well myth is the PVR part |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | looks like I'm gonna have to buy a couple more HDs. |
| [05:12:00] | StringBlade: | heh |
| [05:12:00] | StringBlade: | HD space is cheap |
| [05:12:00] | StringBlade: | I've got .5Tb |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | luckily, you're right. |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | 500 megs? or 5000? |
| [05:12:00] | StringBlade: | 500G |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | duh. |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | yup. |
| [05:12:00] | PoeticIntensity: | G not M |
| [05:12:00] | StringBlade: | right |
| [05:13:00] | Polydwarf: | string, do you use lvm, then? |
| [05:13:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I've got 160.... |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | I use vobcopy -m -o /path/to/saved/movie |
| [05:13:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'm gonna look at vobcopy. |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | Polydwarf: hells yes |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | :-) |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | Poetic: you'll also need ogle or xine to play back with menus |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | they're the only two than correctly handle them |
| [05:13:00] | PoeticIntensity: | mplayer no workie? |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | I like xine myself |
| [05:13:00] | Polydwarf: | hehe... A big part of me wants to start hacking the myth code to support multiple directories for recordings.. |
| [05:13:00] | StringBlade: | not with menus, no |
| [05:13:00] | PoeticIntensity: | poo. |
| [05:13:00] | PoeticIntensity: | :) |
| [05:14:00] | PoeticIntensity: | and myth is configurable with xine? |
| [05:14:00] | StringBlade: | Polydwarf: subdirectories of the recordings folder doesn't work? (I haven't tried it) |
| [05:14:00] | PoeticIntensity: | (man... lots of questions... I've just gotta start playing with the darn thing) |
| [05:14:00] | StringBlade: | Poetic: yes it is |
| [05:14:00] | PoeticIntensity: | nice. |
| [05:14:00] | StringBlade: | I use xine instead of mplayer in myth |
| [05:14:00] | StringBlade: | well, mythvideo |
| [05:14:00] | Polydwarf: | well, the db structure doesn't support it, last time I looked |
| [05:14:00] | Polydwarf: | mythvideo does, I think. |
| [05:14:00] | Polydwarf: | but, not tv functions. |
| [05:14:00] | StringBlade: | go in to the setup -> video manager and then set the default player to xine instead of mplayer |
| [05:14:00] | PoeticIntensity: | allright, string.. THanks for your help. I've gotta run... I"m sure I'll be in and out tons in the near future, though. |
| [05:15:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, I know mythvideo will recurse subdirectories |
| [05:15:00] | StringBlade: | have fun |
| [05:15:00] | StringBlade: | good luck |
| [05:15:00] | Polydwarf: | mythmusic does too... Just not pvr, which is what I would really want it for. :) |
| [05:15:00] | StringBlade: | right now I've set up a gallery dir that will only contain symlinks to the files I want displayed in the video gallery |
| [05:16:00] | StringBlade: | the code isn't that bad to hack into |
| [05:16:00] | Polydwarf: | I got turned off on lvm after a corruption on my / partition forced me to reinstall and I couldn't figure out how to get the dumb lvm volume remounted. :) |
| [05:16:00] | StringBlade: | I've already done it for mythvideo |
| [05:16:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [05:16:00] | StringBlade: | and I've never used QT |
| [05:16:00] | StringBlade: | well LVM has saved me a couple times from stupidity already |
| [05:16:00] | StringBlade: | failed drives is always a pain |
| [05:17:00] | Polydwarf: | mythfilldatabase, for a while, had it hacked in that by default it would remap all channels to what came off of datadirect.. First hack was to put in flags to disallow that. :) Of course, a day or two later, someone else had done ti and committed it. |
| [05:17:00] | StringBlade: | but my recording parition was 75G and my tv buffer was 75G |
| [05:17:00] | StringBlade: | and that was a little big for a buffer |
| [05:17:00] | Polydwarf: | 75g? I would say so. |
| [05:17:00] | StringBlade: | so I just recreated the logical volume and now my recording is 120+ and my buffer is 4 |
| [05:18:00] | StringBlade: | heh |
| [05:18:00] | Polydwarf: | wouldn't you have to lose everything on the previous recorded volume, if you didn't copy it off? |
| [05:18:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [05:18:00] | StringBlade: | but it was an empty buffer |
| [05:18:00] | StringBlade: | in this case |
| [05:18:00] | StringBlade: | so I had nothing to lose |
| [05:18:00] | StringBlade: | but LVM made it really easy to resize the partitions |
| [05:19:00] | Polydwarf: | Yeah.. I have 90 some odd gig of recordings... If I fill this drive up, it's going to be a pain to switch to lvm. :) |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | also easy to add new drives to the physical group |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | actually I had 80gigs of music |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | then I added two drives |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | made them lvm |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | copied the music over |
| [05:19:00] | amax: | guys, what about raid5? i would use it ;) |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | then made the old drive half lmv |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | lvm |
| [05:19:00] | StringBlade: | software raid is slow |
| [05:20:00] | Polydwarf: | well, yeah.. if I had hardware raid 5, I'd like it. |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | and hardware raid 5 is expensive |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | :-) |
| [05:20:00] | amax: | how expensive? :D |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | VERY expensive |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | just ask Google |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | well, I"m out. Gotta go to bed or I'll be sleeping alone tomorrow night |
| [05:20:00] | StringBlade: | :-) |
| [05:20:00] | amax: | i thought you could get a raid card for like 100–150 bucks... let me talk to google. :D |
| [05:20:00] | Polydwarf: | g'night |
| [05:21:00] | amax: | nite! |
| [05:21:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, but one that supports 5? |
| [05:21:00] | StringBlade: | eh, I'll check the chat logs tomorrow to see what you came up with |
| [05:21:00] | amax: | i didnt look that much into that. I only have one HD :) |
| [05:21:00] | StringBlade: | :-) |
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| [05:22:00] | Polydwarf: | I do know that a friend of mine at work tried to get a hardware ide raid card but couldn't get it working under linux |
| [05:22:00] | Polydwarf: | I also don't know what raid levels it supported |
| [05:22:00] | amax: | :| |
| [05:25:00] | amax: | i dont know,... i found one that says: As a 4 channel ATA133 RAID adapter, the RocketRAID 454 supports up to 8 IDE hard disk drives, and provides multi level RAID support including RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, JBOD. The RocketRAID 454 is a high quality, cost-effective solution for your mass storage needs. |
| [05:25:00] | amax: | and its only 125 CAD |
| [05:25:00] | Polydwarf: | raid 10? |
| [05:25:00] | amax: | i'll go check their website |
| [05:26:00] | Polydwarf: | post the link. |
| [05:26:00] | Polydwarf: | I'm curious too. :) |
| [05:26:00] | amax: | http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=11 . . . Technologies |
| [05:26:00] | amax: | thats the store where I got the price from |
| [05:26:00] | mishehu: | I generally prefer 3ware raid cards... |
| [05:26:00] | Polydwarf: | wow.. how green. |
| [05:26:00] | mishehu: | decent price, nice support. |
| [05:26:00] | amax: | yeah :D yeah, 3ware are good |
| [05:27:00] | mishehu: | and certainly are better than that SIIG that is on my asus mobo, and which I doubt is hardware raid... |
| [05:28:00] | amax: | :D |
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| [05:29:00] | amax: | well, i think that 125 CAD is not a bad price,... |
| [05:29:00] | Polydwarf: | that same card is cheaper by a few bucks at other stores (Search froogle for it) |
| [05:29:00] | Asciiwhite: | hey fellas, what are you guys using for hdtv output to a tv ? |
| [05:29:00] | Asciiwhite: | i've tryed matrox with directfb with little success... |
| [05:29:00] | Polydwarf: | I'm not... I'm poor, so I don't have hdtv. :) |
| [05:30:00] | Polydwarf: | a friend of mine is going to be trying dvi, but he doesn't have eveyrthing yet. |
| [05:30:00] | Polydwarf: | (nvidia card) |
| [05:30:00] | amax: | Polydwarf: i like buying localy, thats why I went to that site. :) That way, if it doesnt work or breaks, I can always drop it off |
| [05:30:00] | Polydwarf: | ahh. |
| [05:30:00] | Asciiwhite: | i've used nvidia for output but its not very good |
| [05:30:00] | Polydwarf: | ascii, nvidia which? dvi? |
| [05:30:00] | Asciiwhite: | any suggestions for cards with good quality. |
| [05:30:00] | Asciiwhite: | no |
| [05:30:00] | Asciiwhite: | svid |
| [05:30:00] | Asciiwhite: | geforce fx 5200 |
| [05:30:00] | Polydwarf: | I actually like the svideo output off of my nvidia card |
| [05:31:00] | Polydwarf: | mine's a cheap geforce 4000 :) |
| [05:31:00] | amax: | Polydwarf: mine too, and it looked good when I used it on my 27" tv |
| [05:32:00] | Polydwarf: | the biggest tv is my 32 in the living room, and even after going through a switchbox, it looks good. |
| [05:32:00] | Polydwarf: | took some tweaking around, but in the end, it was good. |
| [05:32:00] | amax: | what type of tweaking? |
| [05:32:00] | Polydwarf: | overscan, that sort of thing. |
| [05:33:00] | Asciiwhite: | are there any suggestions from myth developers on what to use? |
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| [05:33:00] | amax: | ok |
| [05:34:00] | amax: | Asciiwhite: i would think that if they are smart, they will avoid giving any type of suggestion :) |
| [05:34:00] | Polydwarf: | ascii, I dunno. |
| [05:34:00] | Polydwarf: | I would tend to agree with amax... what you don't say can't get you in trouble. |
| [05:34:00] | amax: | they might say what they have, but to suggest... |
| [05:34:00] | Polydwarf: | At least, I tell myself that. :) |
| [05:34:00] | amax: | agreed |
| [05:35:00] | Asciiwhite: | heh ok |
| [05:35:00] | Cromz: | alot of the forums / messages talk about using the capture cards output.. like on the 350.. :P but I dont' have mine setup that way cause I run dual monitors. and I'm a newb to myth. |
| [05:37:00] | amax: | well, that RAID card seems to be well supported by its manufacturer |
| [05:37:00] | Polydwarf: | I only have a 250.. no tv out on it. so, I got a cheap geforce 4 card. |
| [05:38:00] | Cromz: | bah. .I need to get nuvexport working agian. it's not talking to my database :/ heh damn dst and me not knowing enough haha |
| [05:38:00] | Polydwarf: | It's still a 100/125 bucks (US/Can)... After the money plunked down for a pvr250 and a big harddrive, it's a bit much. |
| [05:38:00] | ** amax goes to the hauppauge site to see the card he will buy (eventually) ** | |
| [05:38:00] | Polydwarf: | I'd rather hack the code to support multiple directories. :) |
| [05:39:00] | Asciiwhite: | its a shame directfb isnt soo well supported, tv output is great. |
| [05:39:00] | Cromz: | I have a 3ware sata 8 port card. with 6 by 200's I have myth using it as temp and recorded show storge :) runs good. |
| [05:39:00] | Polydwarf: | jeez... I would hope so. :) |
| [05:40:00] | Asciiwhite: | with a matrox card anyway. |
| [05:41:00] | Asciiwhite: | does anyone know if vdr has a channel somewhere ? |
| [05:41:00] | amax: | is there a video card that has mpeg decoding? |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | the pvr350 does decoding+tvout |
| [05:41:00] | Polydwarf: | amax, most recent nvidia cards do, though whether it works with myth is a day-by-day question |
| [05:41:00] | Randall64: | Most cards have some sort of acceleration that benefits mpeg playback. |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | And of course XvMC on nvidia cards |
| [05:42:00] | amax: | rgr, thanks |
| [05:42:00] | Randall64: | and XvMC on via chipsets :) |
| [05:42:00] | Randall64: | I wonder if it works yet. |
| [05:42:00] | ** Polydwarf likes xvmc, when it works.. :) ** | |
| [05:42:00] | eco: | Is WinTV-Go decent? |
| [05:42:00] | amax: | well, for me, the best bet would be the 350, as GreyFoxx suggests |
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| [05:43:00] | Cromz: | the 350's are nice.. I use the ir in on that card. and a serial ir for my cable box. it all works nicely. |
| [05:43:00] | Asciiwhite: | GreyFoxx: works with hdtv ? |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Asciiwhite: nope |
| [05:44:00] | Polydwarf: | I use a serial receiver and transmitter... The reciever on my 250 apparently was tuned specifically for the pvr250 remote, which is pretty crappy |
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| [05:46:00] | Asciiwhite: | anyone here used vdr ? |
| [05:46:00] | Polydwarf: | not me |
| [05:47:00] | hadees: | is the pvr350 picture really that much better then tv-out on my nvidia card? |
| [05:48:00] | amax: | hadees: send me your video card to compare... :p |
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| [05:48:00] | hadees: | hehe well i keep hearing about crisp |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: The picture is pretty much flawless imho |
| [05:49:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, how does it display diffrent? |
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| [05:49:00] | Asciiwhite: | hows OSD? |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: It just has better quality tv out. I'm not sure what you mean by how it displays different |
| [05:50:00] | hadees: | and isn't there a problem with like xvid |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: You can't use Xv to aid in video playback, so it's more CPU usage to playback xvid/non mpeg2 items |
| [05:51:00] | amax: | GreyFoxx: the Q is, can you stream non mpeg items through it? |
| [05:51:00] | Asciiwhite: | ive got a 1.2 ghz box with 500 ram been sitting here for over 2 years now to be used for a mythtv box :) |
| [05:51:00] | Asciiwhite: | i've given up with matrox output. so pvr350 is the way to go ? |
| [05:52:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, well I don't know you see my video quality is kind of bad but I think thats just the cable source in my apt, the nvidia displays the mythtv menu screen i think very well |
| [05:52:00] | Asciiwhite: | would 1.2ghz suffice for xvid etc playback? |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Asciiwhite: Certainly |
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| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | amax: You can display pretty much anything, but anything other than mpeg2 will use a lot more CPU than mpeg2 content |
| [05:53:00] | hadees: | mabey i'll end up getting one, everyone thinks its better |
| [05:54:00] | amax: | GreyFoxx: rgr |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got some mpeg2 decoder cards here that I've used and I can play xvid/divx etc on them without it killing my system. But I've never tried on a350 |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | amax: "rgr" ? |
| [05:55:00] | Asciiwhite: | would i need two dvb cards if i say wannted to watch one transponder then record off another? |
| [05:55:00] | amax: | i would think so.. |
| [05:55:00] | amax: | Asciiwhite: check the 500 |
| [05:57:00] | Polydwarf: | well, I'm off. g'night all |
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| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, speaker of mpeg2 decoders. Time to shutdown this frontend and install one |
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| [06:11:00] | amax: | wowza,... a solid 50% when recording from tv. :( i need the 350, or at least the 150. :D |
| [06:12:00] | amax: | anyway, nite guys. |
| [06:13:00] | Randall64: | oh, fuck you, alsa |
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| [06:33:00] | chuggachuu: | new PVR-250 $120 CDN .. good price ? |
| [06:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Certainly not the worst I've need |
| [06:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wow, Isaac is going patch commit crazy |
| [06:36:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: All power to the CVS drive! |
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| [07:13:00] | CygnusX1_: | I just signed up for Datadirect....it says my sub expires in July...are they ending it, or, do they just require reregistration every couple of months? |
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| [07:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | they make you fill out a little survey every so many months |
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| [07:14:00] | fryfrog: | what he said |
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| [08:00:00] | CygnusX1_: | Anyone with knoppmyth get it working with a pvr 150? (I have installed the ivtv driver which supports the 150) |
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| [08:47:00] | cm1: | px-tv402u rocks from govideo, buy from mythtv is all green/pixelated.. i can only find a single post that mentions changing transcode settings? |
| [08:48:00] | cm1: | err.. s/govideo/gorecord |
| [08:54:00] | cm1: | sweet |
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| [09:14:00] | ikaro: | morning |
| [09:24:00] | fryfrog: | hi! |
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| [09:32:00] | ikaro: | what do guys use to tune the channels ? |
| [09:33:00] | fryfrog: | the up and down key! |
| [09:47:00] | orv: | you could use numbers. :) |
| [09:56:00] | CygnusX1_: | Hello. Are any of you using knoppmyth and the pvr 150? |
| [09:57:00] | orv: | sorry no. |
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| [10:23:00] | ikaro: | i got a channel list from my cable provider, there it says: 24N channel – S13 – 345,25 |
| [10:23:00] | ikaro: | then i do this: ptune.pl --channel S13 --freqtable pal-europe --frequency 345,25 |
| [10:23:00] | ikaro: | but i only get static |
| [10:25:00] | ikaro: | how can I scan and preset all the available channels ? |
| [10:25:00] | ikaro: | there are over 50 channels on this package and trying to guess each one of them takes alot of time, specially when using the freqs they supply dont help much. |
| [10:26:00] | stoffel_: | ikaro: try SE13 instead of S13 |
| [10:27:00] | ikaro: | yeh .. same thing static only. |
| [10:27:00] | stoffel_: | shouldn't you either supply --channel OR --frequency but not both? |
| [10:28:00] | ikaro: | using ptune-ui gives the same result. |
| [10:28:00] | ikaro: | frequency table now pal-europe-west |
| [10:28:00] | ikaro: | Channel changed to SE13, freq = '245250' |
| [10:29:00] | stoffel_: | and with --frequency instead of --channel? |
| [10:30:00] | ikaro: | says channel 4 not in pal-europe |
| [10:31:00] | ikaro: | its the same thing |
| [10:32:00] | ikaro: | using S13 or --requency |
| [10:32:00] | ikaro: | Ch.SE13: 245250 3924 |
| [10:32:00] | ikaro: | ptune.pl --channel SE13 --freqtable pal-europe-west |
| [10:33:00] | ikaro: | if I use this: ptune.pl --freqtable pal-europe-west --frequency 24525 |
| [10:33:00] | ikaro: | i get this: Frequency: 24525 392.4 |
| [10:37:00] | ikaro: | anyone can help ? |
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| [11:46:00] | markit: | anyone from Italy? qualche italiano qui? |
| [11:47:00] | Asciiwhite: | no pale englaze |
| [11:47:00] | Asciiwhite: | er, no pale italiano |
| [11:48:00] | markit: | Asciiwhite: the italian phrase was the same as the english one ;) |
| [11:49:00] | markit: | I would like to find an italian to have advices about harware to buy that works fine in italy |
| [12:19:00] | fek: | moin |
| [12:24:00] | beavis: | how can i reverse a patch? |
| [12:26:00] | stoffel: | patch -R -pXYZ my_patch |
| [12:26:00] | stoffel: | also see man patch |
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| [12:37:00] | markit: | is it better having a frontend + backend PC, o try to find a PC that is enough powerfull but yet silent to use as a frontend/backend? |
| [12:38:00] | markit: | I would like to put inside 2 x 200 gb for my dvd library and tv recording |
| [12:39:00] | ** markit fears so much software patents in europe, sigh ** | |
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| [13:33:00] | ** JoeyLemur grumbles. ** | |
| [13:35:00] | JoeyLemur: | Why is it so bloody difficult to get this thing to use the correct a/v input... |
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| [14:07:00] | RoCkY: | i have hauppauge PVR 150 remote, and irw is recording presed buttons right but mythtv does not react to remote ? (i copyed valit config to $HOME/.mythtv/lircrc) |
| [14:08:00] | RoCkY: | is there anything im missing here in the configuration of mythtv? |
| [14:10:00] | ** JoeyLemur is too busy trying to figure out why his PVR-350 keeps getting set for input 4 when he wants input 6. ** | |
| [14:10:00] | RoCkY: | :-( |
| [14:11:00] | JoeyLemur: | And no matter what its set to, I'll hit 'Watch TV' and it'll play a second or so of video, no audio, and then freeze up. |
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| [14:28:00] | JoeyLemur: | Hmm... better. Getting 15 seconds of audio and video before it goes back to the menu. |
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| [14:45:00] | lpHooge: | RoCkY: AFAIK this only works if mythtv is compiled with lirc support |
| [14:47:00] | RoCkY: | lpHooge : I use debian packages of mythtv, any ideas how could i check if lirc support is in? |
| [14:47:00] | lpHooge: | other than asking someone who knows? no, sorry |
| [14:47:00] | stoffel: | see if ldd /usr/bin/mythfrontend shows liblirc |
| [14:55:00] | RoCkY: | stoffel : it show liblirc_client.so.0 => /usr/lib/liblirc_client.so.0 (0xb6777000) guess thats that ... |
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| [15:02:00] | pointer-gaim: | I searched the MLs a couple days ago...and only found a couple posts asking if support would be forthcoming |
| [15:03:00] | pointer-gaim: | I have IPTV service....and I'd really hate to convert the digital stream to analog in the set-top-box...and then convert it back in my myth box... |
| [15:07:00] | Randall64: | morning morning morning, it's morning! |
| [15:09:00] | pointer-gaim: | Randall64: I'm resisting the urge to wake up |
| [15:09:00] | pointer-gaim: | hehe |
| [15:09:00] | Randall64: | Look at the sunshine! |
| [15:09:00] | Randall64: | It's Spring! |
| [15:10:00] | Cromz: | blah and I'm working.. Sprint sming.. :> |
| [15:10:00] | Randall64: | I too need to get some work done today. |
| [15:10:00] | Randall64: | But first, let me bend alsa over and wish it a good morning. |
| [15:11:00] | Randall64: | *heart stops* |
| [15:11:00] | Randall64: | My CC bill with the dual G5 on it arrived. |
| [15:11:00] | Cromz: | I'm recovering a redhat linux about a 100gig drive. and there is a ntfs raid5 that the fools kept running for like 4 days in a crap mode. :/ |
| [15:12:00] | Cromz: | the the raid 5 is only 4 60gigs.. so.. that's like 180gig total. |
| [15:13:00] | Cromz: | heh live of a data recovery engineer :P |
| [15:13:00] | Cromz: | er life I mean |
| [15:14:00] | JoeyLemur: | Is there any way of figuring out the mapping between the numbers that a PVR-350 uses for identifying its inputs, and what MythTV calls them? |
| [15:16:00] | Cromz: | JoeyLemur: yes. there is a file in (redhat varaint) /etc/lirc.conf that would be the input, and in your ~/.mythtv/lircrc that's what myth uses on mine I had to go in and make sure they all were the same names cause the files I got from myth(tv)ology wasn't correct. |
| [15:17:00] | JoeyLemur: | Ah... I've been following/beating my head against the same guide. |
| [15:18:00] | JoeyLemur: | Er, I'm referring to the AV inputs, not the remote control... |
| [15:18:00] | Cromz: | really I found that guide pretty easy.. and my setup is alittle differant, mine is fc3–64, sata raid of 1 terrabyte, dual monitors, sa2000 cable box. |
| [15:18:00] | JoeyLemur: | (although I have been having issue with the remote buttons too) |
| [15:19:00] | JoeyLemur: | I've got a SA2100... at some point I'll try figuring out how to get the serial IR xmitter to work with it... |
| [15:20:00] | Cromz: | what kind of troubles you got with the av inputs? |
| [15:20:00] | JoeyLemur: | I know that I want input 6 (as in, ivtvctrl -p 6) |
| [15:21:00] | JoeyLemur: | I have no idea what Myth calls it. |
| [15:21:00] | Cromz: | cause on mine, mythsetup, I tell the tuner to go to 3, and the video input to use the tuner. but you might be using the composite inputs.. |
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| [15:21:00] | JoeyLemur: | I'm using the SVideo input. |
| [15:22:00] | Cromz: | in mythsetup there is a option for that, under the video input.. |
| [15:23:00] | JoeyLemur: | I've got S-Video 0 through 3, Composite 0 through 4, and Tuner 0. |
| [15:23:00] | Cromz: | ya I see.. hehe |
| [15:23:00] | Cromz: | it's probly s-video-0 |
| [15:24:00] | Cromz: | it's the 6th one down if you use zero relitive numbering. |
| [15:24:00] | Cromz: | at least on mine :> |
| [15:25:00] | Cromz: | your best best is to try s-video-0 |
| [15:26:00] | JoeyLemur: | And I still have a problem where I hit 'Watch TV', and it plays for 15 seconds before going back to the main menu... |
| [15:28:00] | Randall64: | Anyone happen to have snd_via82xx actually working? |
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| [15:29:00] | Randall64: | This retarded irc network has lilo's fingerprints all over it. |
| [15:29:00] | ** Randall64 jumps ** | |
| [15:30:00] | lpHooge: | Randall64: I think i use that module... |
| [15:30:00] | Cromz: | VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller |
| [15:30:00] | Randall64: | It worked at some point, now I just don't get anything with everything unmuted and jacked up in a mixer. |
| [15:30:00] | lpHooge: | *runs lsmod* yep, I do |
| [15:31:00] | Cromz: | I cheated I looked at my phpsysinfo page.. lol |
| [15:31:00] | Randall64: | Could there be any more mixer channels? |
| [15:32:00] | Cromz: | Randall64: what pvr card you using? |
| [15:33:00] | Cromz: | on mine I had to mute line, line-in as Surround. |
| [15:33:00] | Cromz: | pvr350 |
| [15:33:00] | lpHooge: | Randall64: I had to add the option ac97_quirk=0 to the module to make it working |
| [15:34:00] | Randall64: | Cromz: Well, atm that doesn't matter, since it never produces _any_ sound. |
| [15:35:00] | Cromz: | oh |
| [15:36:00] | Cromz: | sorry only half watching / reading :/ so I'll shutup and go back to the recovery I'm working on. |
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| [15:39:00] | RoCkY: | i got lirc working with xmms, and i have config in .mythtv/lircrc ... and myth still does not respond to remote :( |
| [15:40:00] | Randall64: | finally |
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| [15:41:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v Geckofiend | |
| [15:41:00] | Geckofiend: | RoCkY just use irxevent and be done with it. |
| [15:41:00] | ** Geckofiend wonders why people insist on making shit harder than it is ** | |
| [15:42:00] | RoCkY: | irw is registering remote controler if that's what you mean |
| [15:42:00] | JoeyLemur: | Grrr... this is seriously annoying me. SVideo-0 is number six in the list (zero based) and I'm still getting static on 'Watch TV' |
| [15:42:00] | Geckofiend: | RoCkY no irxevent, send keys to ANY app instead of worrying about them all having lirc support |
| [15:43:00] | RoCkY: | :-) cool... |
| [15:43:00] | RoCkY: | ill try that out... i saw irxevent conf in myth examples ill try with that one |
| [15:44:00] | FairWtns: | Geckofiend: We could all just buy a Tivo you know, that would be easier. :) We're all about making shit harder than it is. It just depends on the 'why' to make sure it's worth it. :D |
| [15:47:00] | JoeyLemur: | If it requires you to spend two goddamned days to get practically nowhere, it MUST be good. |
| [15:48:00] | FairWtns: | Hehe. |
| [15:48:00] | FairWtns: | I'm working on day 5 of getting back to where I was before I started fscking with stuff. Now that's worthwhile. |
| [15:49:00] | ** JoeyLemur about to give up on this vile Fedora Core "how to" and try KnoppMyth ** | |
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| [15:56:00] | StringBlade: | anyone have any luck with the 0.3.2u drivers for color svideo on a 150 card? |
| [15:59:00] | JoeyLemur: | ...well, crap. ivtvctl -a shows me the input id number and the name that mythtv pulls. This doesn't make me happy, I'm still getting static... |
| [16:00:00] | JoeyLemur: | Because its still set to the tuner for some reason. |
| [16:00:00] | StringBlade: | Joey: which card do you have? |
| [16:00:00] | JoeyLemur: | PV-350 |
| [16:00:00] | JoeyLemur: | PVR-350, that is |
| [16:00:00] | StringBlade: | right\ |
| [16:01:00] | StringBlade: | I can tell you what I did to get the 150 running in FC3 |
| [16:01:00] | StringBlade: | but I don't know if that'll help |
| [16:01:00] | JoeyLemur: | Please. I'm out of ideas here. |
| [16:01:00] | StringBlade: | I take it you read Jarod's guide |
| [16:01:00] | JoeyLemur: | Yeah |
| [16:01:00] | StringBlade: | but it didn't work 100% for me |
| [16:01:00] | StringBlade: | which ivtv drivers are you using? |
| [16:01:00] | JoeyLemur: | Ditto. |
| [16:02:00] | JoeyLemur: | Uh... hang on. |
| [16:02:00] | JoeyLemur: | pvr48wdm_1.8.22037 |
| [16:02:00] | StringBlade: | er |
| [16:03:00] | StringBlade: | actually I meant 0.3.2u or whatever |
| [16:03:00] | JoeyLemur: | Oh, yeah, that's the card firmware. Dur. |
| [16:04:00] | JoeyLemur: | Hang on... |
| [16:04:00] | StringBlade: | np |
| [16:06:00] | JoeyLemur: | Watch closely as I flail trying to learn how to figure out package versions. |
| [16:06:00] | StringBlade: | oh, you installed ivtv from a package? |
| [16:06:00] | JoeyLemur: | apt-get install ivtv |
| [16:06:00] | StringBlade: | rpm -qa | grep ivtv |
| [16:06:00] | JoeyLemur: | Per the How-To |
| [16:07:00] | JoeyLemur: | Grrr. Ok. ivtv-0.2.0–66_rc3i |
| [16:07:00] | StringBlade: | ok |
| [16:07:00] | JoeyLemur: | ...and you make it sound like there's an 0.3 out. |
| [16:07:00] | StringBlade: | now here's where we diverge a little |
| [16:07:00] | StringBlade: | those drivers *should* work for you |
| [16:07:00] | StringBlade: | but you can always try the latest drivers |
| [16:08:00] | StringBlade: | the 0.3.x series |
| [16:08:00] | StringBlade: | I'm using 0.3.2u (but have some sound issues) though 0.3.2i worked fine (but not for s-video) |
| [16:08:00] | JoeyLemur: | The thing is, these drivers do work. If I manually force it to use input 6 (ivtvctl -p 6), I get video. |
| [16:08:00] | StringBlade: | and sound? |
| [16:08:00] | StringBlade: | ok |
| [16:08:00] | JoeyLemur: | And sound. |
| [16:08:00] | StringBlade: | so what's the problem (guessed I missed it in the logs) |
| [16:09:00] | JoeyLemur: | Problem a) a fresh reboot of the system has it going back to input 4 (the tuner), which I don't want |
| [16:09:00] | StringBlade: | ah |
| [16:09:00] | StringBlade: | well, a simple init script can fix that |
| [16:09:00] | JoeyLemur: | Problem b) I hit 'Watch TV' in the frontend, and it runs for 15 or so seconds and then stops. |
| [16:09:00] | StringBlade: | that's a bigger problem |
| [16:09:00] | JoeyLemur: | I had the command in rc.local without success. |
| [16:10:00] | StringBlade: | have you tried installed newer drivers to see if problem b is fixed? |
| [16:10:00] | StringBlade: | s/installed/installing |
| [16:10:00] | StringBlade: | apt-get will only grab the latest stable |
| [16:11:00] | StringBlade: | which is usually what you want |
| [16:11:00] | StringBlade: | but you can download and build your own unstable (i.e. devel) drivers |
| [16:11:00] | StringBlade: | for the 150 and 500 we have to do that |
| [16:11:00] | JoeyLemur: | I wonder if I should just plough the system over and start again from scratch without mucking with packages. |
| [16:12:00] | StringBlade: | that's up to you |
| [16:12:00] | StringBlade: | I use the packages whenever possible |
| [16:12:00] | StringBlade: | because they're easy to upgrade |
| [16:12:00] | StringBlade: | and don't need to be rebuilt with a new kernel |
| [16:12:00] | StringBlade: | btw, what kernel are you using? |
| [16:13:00] | JoeyLemur: | I'm just getting really discouraged. Some assembly required, sure, but then you open the box and find five tons of steel ingots and a sheet describing how to forge it... |
| [16:13:00] | JoeyLemur: | 2.6.10 |
| [16:13:00] | StringBlade: | lol |
| [16:13:00] | StringBlade: | yeah |
| [16:14:00] | StringBlade: | I'm no enouragement then...it took me about a month to get it where I am (though only a week to get it functional) |
| [16:14:00] | StringBlade: | but then again |
| [16:14:00] | StringBlade: | I'm using an brand-spanking new card |
| [16:14:00] | StringBlade: | that wasn't even partially supported at the time |
| [16:15:00] | StringBlade: | as I said yesterday in this channel, this isn't a project for the unmotivated – it's rewarding, but definately a challege |
| [16:15:00] | StringBlade: | hopes of plug-and-play will be dashed here |
| [16:16:00] | Randall64: | I wonder which snd-via82xx parameter will make master/pcm work. |
| [16:16:00] | JoeyLemur: | For me, its a project because between this and upgrading/rehacking my TiVo, I'll take bashing my head against my own linux box. |
| [16:17:00] | StringBlade: | well Joey, I guess I probably won't be much help for you then. All I can suggest is to try out the new drivers (save your current modprobe.conf and stuff) |
| [16:17:00] | StringBlade: | see if that fixes your 15 second thing |
| [16:18:00] | StringBlade: | btw, does the myth output say "prebuffering pause" as the last thing before the freeze? |
| [16:18:00] | ** JoeyLemur switches to the unstable package tree. ** | |
| [16:18:00] | StringBlade: | that's what I was getting after about 1 second, newer drivers fixed that |
| [16:18:00] | StringBlade: | now if only I could get s-video in color :( |
| [16:19:00] | StringBlade: | anyway...gotta run – good luck! |
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| [16:50:00] | Sparky-ma: | anyone feel like helping out a n0ob? |
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| [17:06:00] | monski: | anyone playing around with the pvr-500mce? |
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| [17:07:00] | StringBlade: | Sparky-ma: what's the question? |
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| [17:09:00] | amax: | hey StringBlade, did you read the logs? I found a RAID card for 125 CAD with RAID 0,1,5 and 10. |
| [17:09:00] | StringBlade: | yeah |
| [17:09:00] | StringBlade: | I looked them up too |
| [17:09:00] | StringBlade: | the ones I was thinking of were SATA RAID |
| [17:09:00] | StringBlade: | those are much more expensive |
| [17:10:00] | StringBlade: | around $400USD |
| [17:10:00] | amax: | they also have SATA cards |
| [17:10:00] | amax: | and for the same price, I think |
| [17:10:00] | StringBlade: | interesting |
| [17:10:00] | StringBlade: | well, at any rate, I'm happy with my lvm setup |
| [17:10:00] | StringBlade: | sure I'll lose data if the drives fail |
| [17:10:00] | StringBlade: | but I've had enough failed drives that I know when one's about to go |
| [17:11:00] | amax: | I have to play with it, so that when I buy a bigger HD I can set it up. |
| [17:11:00] | StringBlade: | usually have enough time to save the data |
| [17:11:00] | amax: | :| |
| [17:11:00] | StringBlade: | amax: you use svideo in? |
| [17:12:00] | amax: | negative |
| [17:12:00] | ** amax has a really old ATI TV Wonder VE :) ** | |
| [17:13:00] | amax: | by the way, my 2:30 test recording went well |
| [17:13:00] | StringBlade: | cool |
| [17:13:00] | amax: | i am now waiting for the 1 hour shift fix |
| [17:13:00] | StringBlade: | someone's saying that s-video in color works in 3.2u |
| [17:14:00] | StringBlade: | there's a fix for that |
| [17:14:00] | StringBlade: | in the CVS branch code |
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| [17:14:00] | amax: | i use packages |
| [17:14:00] | StringBlade: | or you're going to wait until Monday? |
| [17:14:00] | amax: | yeah, no point in messing up with compiles, and what not. Besides, its not like I am using it right now. :) |
| [17:14:00] | StringBlade: | just remember you'll need to clear your program schedule in the database and refill it after getting the fix |
| [17:14:00] | StringBlade: | ah, that's my problem...I am using it |
| [17:15:00] | StringBlade: | so it's nice to have the right schedules |
| [17:15:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [17:15:00] | amax: | :D indeed |
| [17:15:00] | amax: | what part of the database do I drop? Is there a command I can run for that? |
| [17:16:00] | StringBlade: | don't drop it, just truncate the program table |
| [17:16:00] | StringBlade: | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [17:16:00] | StringBlade: | then 'truncate program;' |
| [17:16:00] | StringBlade: | and quit |
| [17:17:00] | amax: | o_O what does that do? (mysql noob) |
| [17:17:00] | amax: | the truncate... |
| [17:17:00] | amax: | the first line is your login (I guess I am not as noob as I say I am) :D |
| [17:19:00] | StringBlade: | the truncate eliminates all the rows |
| [17:19:00] | amax: | ah... there's a table called program, and with truncate... yeah |
| [17:19:00] | StringBlade: | standard sql |
| [17:19:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [17:19:00] | amax: | ok |
| [17:19:00] | StringBlade: | I'm not very good with sql either |
| [17:19:00] | StringBlade: | but I can act like a pro |
| [17:19:00] | StringBlade: | ;-) |
| [17:20:00] | amax: | :) |
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| [17:22:00] | amax: | oh well, breakfasta time, i'll ttyl |
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| [17:25:00] | StringBlade: | later |
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| [17:30:00] | StringBlade: | anyone get svideo in working in color on a 150? |
| [17:31:00] | GotD0t: | StringBlade: you say you're not getting color from svideo? |
| [17:31:00] | jemarcks_: | is a 150 harder to get to work with myth than a 250? |
| [17:31:00] | StringBlade: | GotD0t: correct |
| [17:31:00] | StringBlade: | jemarcks_: probably |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | only because the drivers for the 150 are still in progress |
| [17:32:00] | GotD0t: | StringBlade: check the pins on your svideo cable.... |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | the 250 is very stable from what I hear |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | GotD0t: what about them? |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | there's 4 |
| [17:32:00] | GotD0t: | StringBlade: check that they're all there ;-) |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | heh |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | yeah they're all there |
| [17:32:00] | GotD0t: | both ends? |
| [17:32:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [17:32:00] | GotD0t: | hmm |
| [17:33:00] | StringBlade: | it's a known problem |
| [17:33:00] | StringBlade: | but I was wondering if anyone has it working |
| [17:33:00] | GotD0t: | oh |
| [17:33:00] | StringBlade: | in NTSC land at least |
| [17:34:00] | StringBlade: | svideo is so much sharper |
| [17:34:00] | StringBlade: | but I don't really want to watch everything in B&W |
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| [17:44:00] | StringBlade: | w00t! color s-video! |
| [17:45:00] | Cromz: | congratz StringBlade |
| [17:46:00] | amax: | so what did you do? |
| [17:47:00] | Cromz: | StringBlade is to busy watching now to tell.. lol |
| [17:47:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [17:47:00] | amax: | hehe |
| [17:51:00] | Cromz: | cripes.. I figured I'd be killing my cpu usage and stuff.. it's only at 20% with myth front and back ends, vmware with xp pro (for work), kopete and and and lol it's got to be lying to me.. course it's not recording so... |
| [17:52:00] | amax: | Cromz: what tuner card? |
| [17:52:00] | Cromz: | pvr350 |
| [17:52:00] | catphish: | how can i compile only mythsetup? |
| [17:52:00] | amax: | from what ive heard, you should be fine, even while recording |
| [17:53:00] | Cromz: | lol even with xp pro ( the windows pig) running in vmware.. hahaha |
| [17:57:00] | mini-morfic: | do the docs mention anything about the "certificate code" needed to sign up with datadirect/zap2it labs? all i see is mention how i should enter username and password as registered |
| [17:57:00] | Randall64: | Cromz: So vmware doesn't chew up all your cpu while idle anymore? |
| [17:58:00] | Cromz: | Randall64: doesn't seem to. |
| [17:58:00] | opello: | mini-morfic: there was a code i had to type in when i registered, if that's what you mean? |
| [17:58:00] | mini-morfic: | yes |
| [17:58:00] | Cromz: | mini-morfic: that code should only be needed when you sign up for datadirect. |
| [17:58:00] | amax: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 |
| [17:59:00] | Randall64: | Cromz: I've been dicking with qemu lately and it's quite handy, but it's supposedly almost real-time with that x86 linux-only accelerator. |
| [17:59:00] | opello: | i was just getting the link :) |
| [17:59:00] | StringBlade: | LOL Cromz: you're right |
| [17:59:00] | Cromz: | Randall64: I've used that on my pny pen drive to install dsl linux. and learn |
| [18:00:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [18:01:00] | StringBlade: | amax: I removed all (and I mean *all*) the modules that ivtv uses |
| [18:01:00] | StringBlade: | then built 0.3.2u from the unstable package |
| [18:01:00] | StringBlade: | and installed the drivers |
| [18:02:00] | StringBlade: | restarted ivtv and lirc_i2c and it's all good |
| [18:02:00] | mini-morfic: | Cromz: i dont have to? the way i understand it is that i dont get a channel line up w/o it |
| [18:02:00] | Cromz: | mini-morfic: naw.. you only need it to sign up for the service. after that it's just yoru username and passy |
| [18:03:00] | StringBlade: | mini-morfic: first you need to sign up for the data-direct service (that's where you enter the certification code found in the docs). After that, it's just a matter of using your name/pass in the mythtv setup and running mythfilldatabase |
| [18:03:00] | mini-morfic: | Cromz: yes to sign up for the service, i dont have said code, and no mention where to get one/it |
| [18:03:00] | opello: | mini-morfic: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 |
| [18:03:00] | StringBlade: | the code's in the doc |
| [18:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | mini-morfic: It's right in the myth docs |
| [18:04:00] | mini-morfic: | thanks, i missed it :/ |
| [18:04:00] | StringBlade: | Randall64: have you gotten qemu to work with networking |
| [18:04:00] | StringBlade: | ? |
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| [18:05:00] | StringBlade: | mine can find the ethernet device, but can't see the internet |
| [18:05:00] | StringBlade: | so while I can run it, it's not very useful |
| [18:06:00] | Cromz: | mine worked fine, long as it can detect the network card. it can't on my wireless notebook. but on all the wired systems it seems to work |
| [18:06:00] | FairWtns: | Anyone ever have a show that just won't delete? |
| [18:07:00] | StringBlade: | FairWtns: did you delete the file from the HD first? |
| [18:07:00] | FairWtns: | No, shall I do that? The menu's don't seem to want to deal with it. |
| [18:07:00] | StringBlade: | no |
| [18:07:00] | FairWtns: | Figured as such. |
| [18:07:00] | Cromz: | FairWtns: yeah, the database still had it, I changed the location of the store path. |
| [18:07:00] | StringBlade: | if you delete it from the drive, then you can't delete it from myth |
| [18:07:00] | Cromz: | :/ |
| [18:08:00] | Cromz: | I had to delete it from the database manually |
| [18:08:00] | FairWtns: | I guess I'm down to having to remove it from the db manually. |
| [18:08:00] | ** FairWtns is scareded. ** | |
| [18:08:00] | StringBlade: | what did you change? |
| [18:08:00] | StringBlade: | the location of your recordings? |
| [18:08:00] | FairWtns: | I haven't changed anything. That's what's odd. It's just this one show that refuses to go away. |
| [18:08:00] | StringBlade: | anything in the logging output? |
| [18:09:00] | StringBlade: | suggest why it won't delete such as can't find file |
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| [18:09:00] | FairWtns: | looking... |
| [18:10:00] | FairWtns: | Nah. |
| [18:10:00] | FairWtns: | Sadly. |
| [18:10:00] | FairWtns: | Well, let me try the frontend. |
| [18:10:00] | FairWtns: | log that is. |
| [18:10:00] | StringBlade: | yeah |
| [18:10:00] | StringBlade: | that's prolly where it would be |
| [18:11:00] | FairWtns: | Oooh, looks like I'm not logging. |
| [18:11:00] | StringBlade: | eh? |
| [18:11:00] | StringBlade: | how do you turn logging off? |
| [18:12:00] | StringBlade: | I mean when I run mythfrontend it automatically logs to stdout |
| [18:12:00] | StringBlade: | unless I redirect to a file |
| [18:12:00] | StringBlade: | same with the backend |
| [18:12:00] | FairWtns: | StringBlade: I run it in a X startup script, so who knows where that goes. |
| [18:12:00] | StringBlade: | ah |
| [18:12:00] | StringBlade: | /dev/null :) |
| [18:12:00] | FairWtns: | Looks like an error loading "image file"...but that's in the themes dir. |
| [18:13:00] | StringBlade: | try running it from a shell |
| [18:13:00] | StringBlade: | so you can look at the output |
| [18:13:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah, I'm doing that now. No errors. Lessee how to increase the verbosity... |
| [18:15:00] | StringBlade: | -v all |
| [18:15:00] | FairWtns: | I see the delete request... |
| [18:15:00] | FairWtns: | Nothing unusual |
| [18:15:00] | StringBlade: | dunno |
| [18:16:00] | StringBlade: | guess it's to the db then |
| [18:16:00] | StringBlade: | with torch in hand ready to raize it |
| [18:16:00] | FairWtns: | hrm. |
| [18:17:00] | Cromz: | did the premissions get changed on the record show? the files? |
| [18:18:00] | FairWtns: | Good idea. |
| [18:18:00] | Cromz: | heh change them to 777 then try deleting it. lol |
| [18:19:00] | StringBlade: | since raize isn't a word...what's the word for destroying a building? |
| [18:19:00] | FairWtns: | Dunno why root owns all the recordings though. Suppose that's how I have my backend set up. |
| [18:19:00] | opello: | StringBlade: level? |
| [18:19:00] | FairWtns: | StringBlade: Raize is a word, but I think you misspelled it. |
| [18:19:00] | FairWtns: | I think. |
| [18:20:00] | StringBlade: | well, yes, but it sounds like razz |
| [18:20:00] | opello: | raze? |
| [18:20:00] | StringBlade: | mabe |
| [18:20:00] | Cromz: | FairWtns: if your running the backend as root then yeah they'll all be owner root. |
| [18:20:00] | opello: | it's raze |
| [18:20:00] | opello: | (google) |
| [18:20:00] | StringBlade: | yup opello, thanks |
| [18:20:00] | StringBlade: | yup :) |
| [18:20:00] | FairWtns: | Cromz:Always been that way so that's not it. |
| [18:20:00] | opello: | heh |
| [18:20:00] | opello: | level, decimate ... they work too :) |
| [18:20:00] | StringBlade: | FairWtns: is your frontend running as root also? |
| [18:21:00] | FairWtns: | StringBlade:No. |
| [18:21:00] | FairWtns: | But I can delete other recordings just fine. |
| [18:21:00] | ** FairWtns whips out his SQL reference. ** | |
| [18:21:00] | StringBlade: | then trying to delete from a non-root frontend when all the files have root permissions shouldn't work |
| [18:21:00] | StringBlade: | ooh |
| [18:21:00] | StringBlade: | ooops |
| [18:21:00] | StringBlade: | meant to delete that instead of send |
| [18:21:00] | StringBlade: | heh |
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| [18:22:00] | Cromz: | so that sounds like your deleting the show from the database but not the files.. |
| [18:22:00] | Cromz: | not sure why that one won't let you. |
| [18:22:00] | StringBlade: | does the show still show it in the listings or recorded shows? |
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| [18:24:00] | mini-morfic: | mythtv reminds me a lot of beyondtv3 |
| [18:26:00] | FairWtns: | StringBlade:Yeah they're there. |
| [18:26:00] | mini-morfic: | now i see why people like it so much |
| [18:26:00] | FairWtns: | All the recordings belong to the 'users' group, so that must be why myth (a member of users) can delete them. |
| [18:26:00] | StringBlade: | mini-morfic: myth or beyondtv3? |
| [18:27:00] | RoCkY: | anyone using pvr150 with lirc? |
| [18:28:00] | FairWtns: | StringBlade:And chowning the recordings to mythtv:users didn't have any effect. |
| [18:28:00] | StringBlade: | RoCkY: I am |
| [18:28:00] | mini-morfic: | why people like mythtv so much , (i did like beyondtv3 demo, but i had never before laid eyes on mythtv, beyondtv3 looks much like mythtv |
| [18:28:00] | RoCkY: | i compiled latest mythTV , and edited settings.pro to enable lirc and still i cant use remote :( ... while irw registers remote |
| [18:29:00] | StringBlade: | you have the lircrc file in the ~/.mythtv folder? |
| [18:29:00] | RoCkY: | yep... |
| [18:29:00] | RoCkY: | but program name bothers me ... |
| [18:29:00] | StringBlade: | are the button names the same case as your /etc/lircd.conf file? |
| [18:29:00] | RoCkY: | in my file it says programname is mythtv... and i start myth with mythfrontend ? |
| [18:29:00] | StringBlade: | mythtv is right |
| [18:30:00] | StringBlade: | but for me, the buttons had the wrong case |
| [18:30:00] | StringBlade: | mine are all uppercase |
| [18:30:00] | StringBlade: | the ones provided in the file were mixed |
| [18:30:00] | RoCkY: | let me check in the case of lircd.conf and lircrc |
| [18:31:00] | FairWtns: | Your .lircrc has to be in ~/<mythuser>/.lircrc |
| [18:31:00] | StringBlade: | sorry to run on you RoCkY, but I gotta go fix relative's computer. :( |
| [18:31:00] | RoCkY: | i have it symlinked |
| [18:31:00] | FairWtns: | And the case on the buttons depends upon your remotes lircd.conf |
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| [18:31:00] | RoCkY: | string... can youm mail me yout rc ? |
| [18:31:00] | StringBlade: | what's the email? |
| [18:32:00] | RoCkY: | my mail is spole@x.pbf.hr pls... cat $HOME/.lircrc | mail spole@x.pbf.hr |
| [18:32:00] | jasoncohen: | i have a few recordings that i simply can't delete or watch. The preview window is black which leads me to believe it is a blank recording. How do i delete it? |
| [18:32:00] | StringBlade: | better yet |
| [18:32:00] | StringBlade: | one sec |
| [18:32:00] | FairWtns: | For lirc: IR Codes in lircd.conf -> Button names in .lircrc -> keypresses for irexec |
| [18:32:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen:I'm working on manually editing the sql now. Soon as I find my damn reference book. |
| [18:32:00] | StringBlade: | RoCkY: grab the lircd.conf for the 150 from Jarod's guide (he has a link) that's what I used |
| [18:33:00] | RoCkY: | i got that one ;) |
| [18:33:00] | jasoncohen: | can i just delete the sql entry: |
| [18:34:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen:Yep, and the associated .nuv and .nuv.png. |
| [18:34:00] | FairWtns: | I'm trying to find the right delete statement though. |
| [18:35:00] | StringBlade: | RoCkY: http://pastebin.com/269677 |
| [18:35:00] | StringBlade: | ignore the php crap |
| [18:35:00] | StringBlade: | that was added by pastebin |
| [18:35:00] | StringBlade: | ok, gotta run |
| [18:35:00] | StringBlade: | good luck |
| [18:35:00] | FairWtns: | l8r StringBlade. thx |
| [18:36:00] | RoCkY: | bye |
| [18:36:00] | RoCkY: | and tnx allot |
| [18:43:00] | FairWtns: | Anybody think "delete * from recorded where title='Dominick Dunne: Power, Privilege & Justice';" should remove just the rows with that show? |
| [18:44:00] | FairWtns: | A select with the above returns just the one show (only have the 1 of that show recorded) |
| [18:44:00] | Cromz: | it should, always use the select to make sure it's finding the one you want ;) like you did. |
| [18:45:00] | Cromz: | I use webmin and delete the one I had with webmin's mysql plugin. |
| [18:45:00] | lpHooge: | or delete it with mythfrontend... |
| [18:46:00] | Cromz: | lpHooge: it won't delete it, that's why FairWtns is doing it this way :/ |
| [18:46:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns: there actually were no .nuvs to delete |
| [18:47:00] | jasoncohen: | it seems to occur when the nuvs are not there but the database info is |
| [18:47:00] | lpHooge: | if the .nuv file is missing, just touch it, then it will be deletable |
| [18:47:00] | jasoncohen: | and it slows mythweb to a crawl in the recorded programs page |
| [18:47:00] | jasoncohen: | lpHooge: no, i tried deleting it in mythweb & in mythfrontend. It said ok but didn't delete |
| [18:48:00] | Filip^: | i had a similar problem and solved it by making a dummy file with the same name as the missing file. then myth would just delete it |
| [18:48:00] | lpHooge: | have you tried creating the .nuv file (with touch or something)? |
| [18:48:00] | RoCkY: | FairWtns : what's with irexec you mention up there ? |
| [18:49:00] | jasoncohen: | lpHooge: nope. what's touch? |
| [18:49:00] | jasoncohen: | i just used webmin to delete the entries from the recorded table |
| [18:50:00] | lpHooge: | a command. It creates a file if it is missing, otherwise updates it's time I think |
| [18:50:00] | RoCkY: | i check all my configs... all files in place , case sensitivity checked... anything else, cause it's stil not workin... (in xmms it does... i tryed with programname xmms and few buttons) |
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| [18:51:00] | FairWtns: | RoCkY:irexec is the program that translates remote buttons to X keypresses. |
| [18:51:00] | FairWtns: | Ooops. |
| [18:52:00] | FairWtns: | That's wrong. |
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| [18:52:00] | FairWtns: | irexec will run a *program* from a keypress. |
| [18:52:00] | FairWtns: | My bad. |
| [18:52:00] | FairWtns: | I believe irxevent is what I meant. |
| [18:53:00] | RoCkY: | yep irxevent is kinda gule between remote and many programs as i figure ... |
| [18:56:00] | RoCkY: | i just found out only numbers work on remote... guess it's working ... but config is not setup 100% right:( |
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| [18:57:00] | FairWtns: | Paste your lircd.conf and .lircrc to the pastebin and I'll check it out. I've been messing w/lirc quite a bit lately. :) |
| [18:57:00] | CygnusX1_: | Anyone with a PVR150 have trouble with missing the right third of the display...and you fixed it? |
| [18:57:00] | FairWtns: | And I've gotten the database to remove entries. Pretty straightforward. |
| [18:58:00] | Filip^: | CygnusX1_: interface or recordings? |
| [18:58:00] | CygnusX1_: | Both |
| [18:58:00] | Filip^: | did you try repositioning them from the setup screens? |
| [18:59:00] | CygnusX1_: | Filip^, I am using Knoppmyth...I have not seen anyplace where I can do that. |
| [18:59:00] | Filip^: | I'm not familiar with KnopMyth, but go to utilities > setup > appearance > screen settings |
| [18:59:00] | RoCkY: | FairWtns : thank you :-) i found the differences... and im renaming buttons to match in both configs... |
| [19:00:00] | mishehu: | StringBlade: you around? |
| [19:00:00] | RoCkY: | 19:35 <StringBlade> ok, gotta run |
| [19:00:00] | RoCkY: | 19:35 <StringBlade> good luck |
| [19:00:00] | mishehu: | welp, guess not. |
| [19:01:00] | CygnusX1_: | Filip^, Okay, I see that here and will toy with it. Thank you |
| [19:01:00] | Filip^: | CygnusX1_: good luck |
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| [19:02:00] | mishehu: | anyway, I'm trying to run mythmusic with alsa-only. I've got an .asoundrc file in my user home dir which contains: pcm.nForce2 { type hw card 0 } ctl.nForce2 { type hw card 0 } (insert new lines where needed). I try to set Myth to use ALSA:default, and it segfaults. I've also tried ALSA9:default, ALSA:nForce2, ALSA9:nForce2 |
| [19:02:00] | mishehu: | I'm using myth + plugins from cvs as of 3 or 4 days ago |
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| [19:04:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [19:08:00] | FairWtns: | RoCkY:Np. |
| [19:08:00] | FairWtns: | Sup xris. How goes it? |
| [19:08:00] | FairWtns: | Yay. lirc-cvs now has proper support for my remote. Not perfect, but close. |
| [19:09:00] | ** xris just woke up. :) ** | |
| [19:09:00] | FairWtns: | Lazy. Dunno where you are, but even CA should be up by now. |
| [19:09:00] | FairWtns: | I drank like a fish last night and I was still up by 10:30. :) |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | it's only 11 here. |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | same as CA |
| [19:10:00] | FairWtns: | That's not too bad then. |
| [19:10:00] | FairWtns: | Wonder how I make my remote more 'responsive'.... |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc|zzzzzz is now known as kormoc | |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc: | Mornin |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | good afternoon :) |
| [19:13:00] | ** xris curses the rain ** | |
| [19:14:00] | xris: | wait, maybe that's not rain noise I hear. |
| [19:14:00] | FairWtns: | Wtf sounds like rain? |
| [19:14:00] | FairWtns: | A showering from a light-caliber SMG? |
| [19:14:00] | ** FairWtns needs to play more MGS:A! ** | |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | FairWtns: heater is moving a piece of paper around. sounds like rain hitting the top of the metal AC unit next to the window. |
| [19:15:00] | FairWtns: | Aaaah. |
| [19:15:00] | FairWtns: | Isn't heat+paper=bad? |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | not unless 80–90 degree air can ignite paper. |
| [19:16:00] | kormoc: | it could be flash paper, then you'd be in trouble |
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| [19:17:00] | FairWtns: | Alright then, but if I see your connection drop, I'm calling the fire dept. |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | kormoc: flash paper isn't paper, though |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | and it still takes a lot more heat to ignite it. |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | it's fun to play with, though |
| [19:19:00] | mishehu: | blah. mythmusic gives me a headache... and not because of the music I want to play |
| [19:19:00] | kormoc: | welheh |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | mishehu: I ignore mythmusic. it's just WAY too slow for me to use. |
| [19:19:00] | beavis: | amaroK rules :) |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | then again, most of myth's interface is slow for me. |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | mythmusic just happens to be the worst. |
| [19:20:00] | mishehu: | xris: well, speed's not really a problem for me, it's more so having something built into myth for the less-computer-literate people in the house |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | ah |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | OK... |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | well, it takes me about 20–30 seconds per-click to browse into my music library, so it's too slow for me. |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | bought the new case, motherboard, CPU, RAM for the upgrade of my mail server |
| [19:21:00] | mishehu: | cuz me personally, I can use xmms, alsaplayer, and stuff built on xine... |
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| [19:21:00] | xris: | yes |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | this will be the world's bitchiest upgrade |
| [19:21:00] | mishehu: | xris: either you have a slower machine than I, or you have way much more music than I. |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | mishehu: most likely the latter. |
| [19:21:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: what did you get for your mail server? |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | about 30k tracks, I think |
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| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | P3–500 running RH8 -> AMD64 3000+ running ubuntu |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:22:00] | mishehu: | xris: on the order of 10s of thousands of songs? |
| [19:22:00] | beavis: | xris: so what are you using? xmms? amaroK? |
| [19:22:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: what else do you do with the machine besides email? |
| [19:22:00] | mchou: | ok, so who has a working pvr 150/500 working with the tuner? |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | it's my webserver, mail (including spamassassin), news, shell server... |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | hylafax |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | likely a few other services I've forgotton |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | mchou: lots of people on the list, apparently |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | oh, mysql.. |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | tuner was supposedly working before svideo |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | printing.. |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | beavis: I ssh into the box and use xmms |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:24:00] | mchou: | xris: I'd be interested in the tuner picture quality...... |
| [19:24:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: you use any win32 clients for faxing with hylafax? |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | not at this point |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'm trying to get remote faxing working through my voip provider. |
| [19:24:00] | mchou: | xris: wondering if tuner PQ is any better than pvr250...... |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | got REALLY close |
| [19:24:00] | mishehu: | gah, I need to go out to Fry's today to get a dvi cable. I either terribly misplaced my current one or threw it out on accident. |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | i.e. submit jobs to their hylafax server instead of my own |
| [19:25:00] | mchou: | mishehu: expensive mistake :) |
| [19:25:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: hylafax is ok, better than other faxing packages I've seen. but I wish to hell faxes would go the way of the dodo already. |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:25:00] | mishehu: | mchou: it shouldn't be too expensive for the cable... what, $20? |
| [19:26:00] | mchou: | mishehu: I thought a dvi cable is more than that..... |
| [19:26:00] | mchou: | I could be wrong thou... |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: and the most important... it has my tape drive in it for backups |
| [19:27:00] | mishehu: | mchou: well, they start at $20. |
| [19:27:00] | mishehu: | go up to $50. |
| [19:28:00] | mishehu: | I'll probably get a cheapy cable, cuz a sure fire way to find the current cable is to buy a replacement. |
| [19:28:00] | Randall64: | Why does fedora ship this ancient mysql? |
| [19:28:00] | mishehu: | Randall64: probably licensing. |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | Randall64: because they are morons |
| [19:28:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: what type of tape drive you got? |
| [19:28:00] | mchou: | sigh, I need to find a cheap A64 939 combo...... |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: an Exabyte 8505XL |
| [19:28:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: that's a little harsh.. |
| [19:28:00] | ** mishehu put together the Asus 8VN-SLI Deluxe + AMD64 3500+ yesterday ** | |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | plus a DDS3 that I'm thinking of switching to |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | rewster: it's true though |
| [19:29:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: what is the exabyte? |
| [19:29:00] | mchou: | mishehu: nice. But SLI is a wate. |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | there are no licensing issues with mysql |
| [19:29:00] | mishehu: | mchou: I didn't get the board because of the SLI... |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: 8mm. it's 7G native on the correct tapes |
| [19:29:00] | mchou: | mishehu: how much was CPU+mobo? |
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| [19:29:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: there are tons of messages on fedora dev lists that would beg to differ. But ok. |
| [19:30:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: pre mysql 4 was under lgpl I thought, and 4 and up is the dual license scheme. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | rewster: it's licensed GPL, how is there an issue? |
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| [19:30:00] | mishehu: | and yes, the people who decided to ship ancient mysql for fedora are morons. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | the version they ship is at least stable :) |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | how ancient is "ancient?" |
| [19:30:00] | Randall64: | 3.23 |
| [19:30:00] | mishehu: | "Gee, we don't like prepared statements..." |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | mysql-server-3.23.58–4 |
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| [19:31:00] | mchou: | what's wrong with that version? perfectly fine. |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | it's stable |
| [19:31:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: the great pyramid is also quite stable, but it's thousands of years old... |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | so what? |
| [19:31:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | age doesn't matter |
| [19:31:00] | Randall64: | I need mysql for things other than mythtv. |
| [19:31:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: you don't live in a huge stone pyramid do you? ;-) |
| [19:31:00] | mchou: | Randall64: so? compile it yourself. |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | no, I live in a condo building built just after I was born. |
| [19:32:00] | Randall64: | mchou: Err, wtf makes you think I haven't considered that? |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | age isn't everything. |
| [19:32:00] | mchou: | Randall64: cause you still bitching about it? |
| [19:32:00] | Randall64: | mchou: The real question is what is fedora actually doing for me? |
| [19:32:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: no it isn't, but things tend to advance within a few thousand of years... |
| [19:32:00] | mchou: | lol. Fedora doesnt have to do anything for you. |
| [19:32:00] | Randall64: | mchou: wtf do I even bother with you? |
| [19:33:00] | ** Randall64 kicks on ignore ** | |
| [19:33:00] | mchou: | Randall64: you pay for fedora? |
| [19:33:00] | mishehu: | "Ask not what Fedora can do for you, but what you can do for Fedora" ? |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | "Ask not what Fedora can do for you, ask what you are going to replace Fedora with" |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | loo |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | lol |
| [19:34:00] | mishehu: | not that I'd ever run fedora |
| [19:34:00] | mchou: | I've been completely unimpressed by kubuntu. Crashing POS. |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | KDE sucks |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | next.. |
| [19:34:00] | Randall64: | I installed ubuntu on a P4, but I'd like multilib support on my athlon64. |
| [19:34:00] | mishehu: | gnome sucks too. NEXT! |
| [19:34:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: so where's your gnome port of myth? |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | myth doesn't use KDE |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | it uses Qt |
| [19:35:00] | rewster: | it uses Qt |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | Qt != KDE |
| [19:35:00] | Randall64: | Qt is good stuff |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | KDE is built on Qt. |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | and I hate Qt anyways :) |
| [19:35:00] | xris: | Randall64: no, qt has its own huge share of problems, too. |
| [19:35:00] | mchou: | gnome sux just as bad as kde. |
| [19:35:00] | mishehu: | Qt:KDE as GTK:gnome |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: I won't disagree there at all :) |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | GUIs suck |
| [19:36:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: ok.. so is there actually a channel I can get help in? Instead of watching you debug your MUD and declare your hatred for everything? |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | fluxbox rocksa |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | -a |
| [19:36:00] | mishehu: | xris: don't remind me of DST calculation bug... |
| [19:36:00] | mishehu: | I just got over that this weekend. |
| [19:36:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | rewster: do you even have a question? |
| [19:36:00] | RoCkY: | where can i find which keys on keyboard do what? |
| [19:36:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: yeah, asked it several times over the past two weeks but have been pretty much ignored, come back the next day and most of the chatter I see is you. |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | RoCkY: keys.txt |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | RoCkY: keys.txt |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | beat you, laga :) |
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| [19:37:00] | catphish: | rewster: ask now, and i'll tell u why its been ignored |
| [19:37:00] | RoCkY: | cool :-) tnx guys |
| [19:37:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | rewster: so now you'll just sit here and expect us to know what you asked earlier? |
| [19:38:00] | laga: | Beirdo: grr ;) |
| [19:38:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: apparently. We can expect RH to do all the work for us, I expect you to be as efficient. |
| [19:38:00] | rewster: | and as pleasant. |
| [19:38:00] | ** amax knows that many of the things ppl ask in the channel are already in the docs / howtos. Sometimes ppl ask because they are too lazy to read them, sometimes they ask because they didnt see it. :| ** | |
| [19:38:00] | Randall64: | COCKry: keys.txt |
| [19:38:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [19:38:00] | catphish: | efficient and pleasant are mutually exclusive |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | rewster: are you going to ask your question, or just complain that nobody's answering the question you're not asking? :) |
| [19:39:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [19:39:00] | ** kormoc wonders why rewster feels that Beirdo gets paid to offer support... ** | |
| [19:39:00] | rewster: | amax: Ok.. well after reading everything over, and googling for weeks, I started getting hits on the question that I asked from Beirdo's log bot. |
| [19:39:00] | catphish: | lmao |
| [19:39:00] | catphish: | and the bit question is... |
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| [19:40:00] | amax: | i just think that people come to IRC to get reassurance... thing is, ppl in irc dont care. :/ |
| [19:40:00] | mchou: | we don't care :) |
| [19:40:00] | rewster: | kormoc: I never said I did. But he appears to own the channel, everything in /topic points to his shit. And I come and see pages about a mud. |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | well, I can't even try to answer something you don't ask |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | amax: reassurance about what? |
| [19:41:00] | rewster: | Beirdo: I asked about why myth would freeze changing channels. |
| [19:41:00] | amax: | xris: anything / everything |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | ahh, finally, a question |
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| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:41:00] | mchou: | rewster: cause it's a bug. |
| [19:41:00] | amax: | rewster: bad memory? |
| [19:41:00] | mchou: | simple. |
| [19:41:00] | JeepJerk: | hello everybody |
| [19:41:00] | rewster: | mchou: thanks. |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm. I've never seen it do that. |
| [19:41:00] | catphish: | rewster: problem is, that could be anything |
| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | rewster, what ivtv drivers are you using? what card are you using? anyhing in dmesg or myth's logs that looks out of place? |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | amax: well, then feel reassured about your (hetero|homo)sexuality (pick whichever one is correct).. :) |
| [19:42:00] | JeepJerk: | is there a line? |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | and your choice of haircut (something I need to figure out) |
| [19:42:00] | amax: | xris: :p |
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| [19:42:00] | SuperCatFrog: | hi – when i try to watch a recording i get 005-04–10 19:41:36.063 Broadcasting free space avail |
| [19:42:00] | JeepJerk: | man wait your turn |
| [19:42:00] | SuperCatFrog: | it worked fine yesterday, but now it happens to all my video's – any idea's? |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | there is no "turns" :) |
| [19:43:00] | amax: | I've got a question, how do the 150 and 250 compare to each other? Is it just that the 150 is cheaper and new? Or does it have something more / less than the 250? |
| [19:43:00] | JeepJerk: | they really wanna hear about my pogramming guide havin wrong times |
| [19:43:00] | rewster: | kormoc: Hauppage PVR350, I've tried ivtv 0.2 whatever the latest stable is, rc3i I think, and the 0.3u, and cvs. Occasionally I get a message about the tuner taking too long to pause. |
| [19:43:00] | JeepJerk: | and my recording schedule having different wrong time |
| [19:43:00] | rewster: | have tried as both a user and root and got the same thing. |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | JeepJerk: that's covered in the FAQ :) |
| [19:43:00] | JeepJerk: | and mythweb having other different wrong times |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | amax: that also is in the FAQ |
| [19:44:00] | SuperCatFrog: | oo! is mine in the FAQ? (iirc its not) |
| [19:44:00] | kormoc: | rewster, is your pvr the blackbird chipset or a different one? |
| [19:44:00] | amax: | ive read the faq, i was wondering if theres something else besides what you put there. For example, some people have it working already, don't they? :) |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | JeepJerk: first check to make sure your timezone is set right |
| [19:44:00] | rewster: | kormoc: also, can't get any audio out of myth or catting /dev/video0, I have made sure I am using the ivtv msp3400 driver. |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | amax: I didn't put it there :) Hehe |
| [19:45:00] | amax: | Beirdo: well,... its your wiki, so I have to blame someone. :D |
| [19:45:00] | rewster: | kormoc: it's NTSC, only refernce I've seen to other chipsets I think was for SECAM. Any other way to tell? |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | amax: blame the people who know the answers and don't contribute :) |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | rewster, some pvr cards use the blackbird chipset, which ivtv doesn't support and causes random lockups like that, iirc. You'd have to look at the card itself to tell what chipset it has |
| [19:46:00] | amax: | Beirdo: will do! |
| [19:46:00] | Cromz: | I contribute, but I don't know the answers :O |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | some people apparently have the PVR-150 of some sorts working |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | as I don't have one, I really can't comment too much on it. |
| [19:46:00] | rewster: | kormoc: happen to have any links handy with how to visually tell the diff? I am googling right now. |
| [19:46:00] | ** xris only knows about mythweb and nuvexport... ** | |
| [19:46:00] | mchou: | I wouldnt mind getting a pvr500...... |
| [19:46:00] | ** FairWtns struggles with lirc, which seems to be his own personal deamon (pun intended.) ** | |
| [19:47:00] | xris: | rewster: I think it should say right on the chipset |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | lirc is a bundle of joy, ain't it? |
| [19:47:00] | rewster: | thinking about it I should get knoppmyth or something and see if that works, too. |
| [19:47:00] | catphish: | i've never had a problem with lirc, it just err worked |
| [19:47:00] | FairWtns: | Beirdo:Especially when mixing distro/lirc with cvs/lirc. |
| [19:47:00] | SuperCatFrog: | my problem also occurs when i try to watch livetv |
| [19:47:00] | amax: | yeah, i've got to upgrade my ati wonder ve with something better, and was looking into the 150, 250 and 350... gotta research more. |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | amax: 250 from pcalchemy is your best choice (if you can get one). guaranteed linux-friendly. |
| [19:48:00] | RoCkY: | i find that > and < skip to next mp3 in playlist ... and it says it should rewind or fast forward ? right ? anywhere i can reduce period it skips perhaps? |
| [19:48:00] | amax: | xris: rgr, thanks! |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | otherwise, people have been having more luckwith the 150 lately (retail more so than MCE) |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | but I got my MCE working last week. |
| [19:48:00] | JeepJerk: | Beirdo: its in the right timezone I think |
| [19:49:00] | mchou: | xris: really? |
| [19:49:00] | amax: | xris: the mce comes without a remote, right? |
| [19:49:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm mountain time |
| [19:49:00] | mchou: | xris: no more b&w? |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | amax: no remote, no IR blaster, different chipset. |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | mchou: it all works. |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | OK, JeepJerk... it it quite likely a qt 3.3.4 issue, as outlined on the FAQ |
| [19:49:00] | amax: | b&w on svideo? StringBlade was able to fix that earlier today (he said)... |
| [19:49:00] | mchou: | xris: nice. What was the trick? |
| [19:49:00] | JeepJerk: | I"m running CVS code |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | mchou: driver update. heh. |
| [19:49:00] | amax: | then the retail package is what I want. :D |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | JeepJerk: should be OK then |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | of course, I'm running qt 3.3.3, so I have no issues |
| [19:50:00] | Cromz: | xris: nuvexport huh.. ;) k before I dropped my mythconverg and redid it, I was able to run nuvexort and it ran good.. now I'm getting a Unrecognized mpeg stream type' what would cause that? heh |
| [19:50:00] | amax: | xris: what does this IR Blaster thing do? will that control my cable box so I can record from it? |
| [19:50:00] | mchou: | heh, I think it might be time to get pvr500 :) |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | amax: yes |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | or you can buy one from irblaster.info |
| [19:50:00] | FairWtns: | Beirdo:The /dev entries are sometimes created by modules correct? I.e. /dev/lirc would be created after modprobing lirc. |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | Cromz: doesn't that error tell you to email some stuff to me? |
| [19:51:00] | amax: | xris: negative, I have to buy a new tv tuner, better to go with the complete package. :) |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm, I think so, if you use udev or something |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | Cromz: are you by chance using a non-english version of mplayer? |
| [19:51:00] | FairWtns: | There we go with udev again. |
| [19:51:00] | Cromz: | xris: ya, jsut thought maybe it was something simple I'm overlooking eheh shouldn't be. |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | amax: just be warned that with the 150, it's still VERY beta. |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | Cromz: "ya" to which question? |
| [19:52:00] | JeepJerk: | Beirdo: when I look on MythWeb it gives me a different time (3 hours late) than the frontend scheduler (4 hours early), and either of them are right |
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| [19:52:00] | mchou: | xris: heh, I tought you said you got everything working on 150 :) |
| [19:52:00] | Cromz: | xris: ya to the said to e-mail ;) |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | JeepJerk: wow, I dunno what to check there. |
| [19:53:00] | amax: | xris: beta... rgr |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | mchou: yes. but no guarantees that'll happen at the next driver update. |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | Cromz: so email it to me and I'll fix it. |
| [19:53:00] | mchou: | I found a great deal at staples yesterday...... |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | it's just a string difference. |
| [19:53:00] | amax: | mchou: what deal? |
| [19:54:00] | CygnusX1_: | amax, I am having a bundle of trouble getting the 150 working well. |
| [19:54:00] | Cromz: | xris: I doubt it's a app problem, it's more then likely something I've done during the rebuild. :/ |
| [19:54:00] | mchou: | amax: storage drawers with casters, originally $34, marked down to $7. |
| [19:54:00] | CygnusX1_: | This is my first try at mythtv though. |
| [19:54:00] | amax: | CygnusX1_: what type of problems? |
| [19:54:00] | mchou: | amax: I need organization :) |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | Cromz: that error only happens when nuvexport doesn't recognize the output from mplayer's file-info command |
| [19:54:00] | amax: | mchou: :p |
| [19:55:00] | Cromz: | xris: oh.. ok.. |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | Cromz: which is why I put that "email this to me" thing in there. I just need to know what the string difference is. |
| [19:56:00] | CygnusX1_: | amax, where I am stuck at now, I am missing the right third of my screen and the sound leaves something to be desired. |
| [19:56:00] | amax: | :( |
| [19:58:00] | CygnusX1_: | I have had the best luck with ivtv 0.3.2i...I am going back and trying 0.2.0-rc3i since they have backported 150 support to it |
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| [20:07:00] | ** FairWtns curses that which was once working. ** | |
| [20:08:00] | Cromz: | xris: how much of that file do you want / need? I'm piping that mplayer run line to a txt file and it's at 34meg already. |
| [20:10:00] | RoCkY: | mplayer has to have lirc support ? right ? |
| [20:11:00] | FairWtns: | RoCkY:Not if you configure your .lirc and use irxevent |
| [20:12:00] | FairWtns: | RoCkY:You can either make new entries for "prog = mplayer", and set up different buttons, or just use "prog = CurrentWindow" and configure the keys through mplayer. |
| [20:12:00] | FairWtns: | Then mplayer need not know about lirc. |
| [20:12:00] | CygnusX1_: | I got it recording with the missing third no longer missing. Live TV is still missing the third though. |
| [20:13:00] | Cromz: | xris: see I told you.. :) it's not your issue it was mine.. something with the angel tv series I recorded.. cause it's working fine for another series ;) I'll just have to delete the other one and start that over.. |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | well, if you send me the error, I'll be able to fix nuvexport to tell you WHAT is wrong with it. |
| [20:16:00] | amax: | Guys.. who uses debian here? I have a Sarge box, and did a apt-get install mythtv and it didnt complain about any dependencies. Can this be true? Has anyone tried it? |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | oh nice |
| [20:21:00] | ** Beirdo gives ffmpeg the finger ** | |
| [20:21:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | when nuv2avi tries to write out the packets, the ffmpeg lib stuff goes into an infinite loop |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | bunch of dumbasses |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | they use a linked list, and the next pointer is somehow pointing at the current item |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | would certainly explain why it seems to hang :) |
| [20:25:00] | Geckofiend: | easy endless loop |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | seems that I need to revisit my avformat.h usage :) |
| [20:26:00] | RoCkY: | amax : i got sarge and have myth from packages... no problems installing |
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| [20:29:00] | amax: | RoCkY: sweet! lets see how long that lasts. :| I wouldnt mind having the backend working on my server |
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| [20:32:00] | Sparky-ma: | you still there StringBlade? |
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| [20:33:00] | Sparky-ma: | I managed to get knoppmyth installed |
| [20:33:00] | Sparky-ma: | and after a bunch of dinking around I also managed to get a tv screen with static in it |
| [20:34:00] | Sparky-ma: | I can't figure out how to set the ip and dns address for linux |
| [20:35:00] | Sparky-ma: | and I can't figure out how to get mythtv to auto tune the channels |
| [20:35:00] | Sparky-ma: | the autoscan button is greyed out |
| [20:36:00] | amax: | Sparky-ma: mythtv doesnt autotune... you need to get xmltv or the direct thingy majig thing going... |
| [20:36:00] | Sparky-ma: | ahh |
| [20:36:00] | Sparky-ma: | well then |
| [20:36:00] | Sparky-ma: | how do I set the machines ip and dns addresses? |
| [20:37:00] | amax: | may I suggest you go to the #knoppix channel? |
| [20:37:00] | Sparky-ma: | on this server? |
| [20:38:00] | amax: | but I would strongly recommend you read the documentation at http://mythtv.org/ |
| [20:38:00] | amax: | from start to finish |
| [20:38:00] | Sparky-ma: | nm |
| [20:38:00] | jams: | Sparky-ma, netcardconfig |
| [20:38:00] | JeepJerk: | think if I clear out my program listings and reload them I might get the correct program times? |
| [20:38:00] | amax: | and dont skip any chapters |
| [20:38:00] | Sparky-ma: | thanx jams |
| [20:43:00] | Sparky-ma: | jams |
| [20:43:00] | Sparky-ma: | how do I get to netcardconfig? |
| [20:44:00] | jams: | open an xterm or switch to a console |
| [20:44:00] | jams: | type netcardconfig |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | hmm. |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | seems the threads are quitting and not properly waking up |
| [20:47:00] | Sparky-ma: | I did open xterm and typed that but it says no such command |
| [20:47:00] | FairWtns: | Wonder how .18's going. |
| [20:49:00] | jams: | eh try netca and hit tab a few times |
| [20:49:00] | jams: | you also need to be root |
| [20:51:00] | Sparky-ma: | heh |
| [20:51:00] | Sparky-ma: | ]thanx I just figured that out |
| [20:52:00] | ** FairWtns waves his fist and looks up into the air. ** | |
| [20:52:00] | FairWtns: | LIIIIIRC |
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| [20:53:00] | jams: | heh |
| [20:53:00] | jams: | how many times have we seen that |
| [20:53:00] | FairWtns: | Like a thousand. Today. 900 of which were from me. |
| [20:53:00] | Cromz: | ugh.. xris the output from the mplayer command line is around 88meg, and even compressed it's 16meg. |
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| [20:55:00] | xris: | um, then something's seriously wrong with your mplayer setup. |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | it should be like 2 pages of text. |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | not for TS it isn't, xris |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | oh? |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | it spews like a drunken frat boy |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | maybe that explains it, then |
| [20:56:00] | Cromz: | it says this at the end.. |
| [20:56:00] | Cromz: | Too many video packets in the buffer: (4096 in 1778068 bytes). |
| [20:56:00] | Cromz: | FPS not specified in the header or invalid, use the -fps option. |
| [20:56:00] | Cromz: | No stream found. |
| [20:56:00] | Cromz: | but seems to be with only this one recording so far. |
| [20:57:00] | xris: | sounds like something's f'd up in the recording. |
| [20:57:00] | Cromz: | the file itself it filled with this stuf.f. |
| [20:57:00] | Cromz: | typ: 33282 chan: 44097 size: 434 pad: 70 |
| [20:57:00] | Cromz: | Invalid packet in LMLM4 stream: ch=44097 size=434 |
| [20:57:00] | Cromz: | fpos = 1030656 |
| [20:58:00] | Cromz: | seems to play ok if I play the recording in myth.. :/ |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | how much you wanna bet that's not MPEG anymore |
| [20:59:00] | xris: | heh |
| [21:01:00] | Cromz: | I didn't change anything in the recording method. |
| [21:01:00] | Cromz: | I dunno.. I'll delete this one, see if the any others do it. |
| [21:01:00] | ** KarlosII wonder if anyone knows if there are any big game releases before september 2005 with linux versions of them? ** | |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | of course there were |
| [21:03:00] | ** xris wonders if there are any games worth playing. ** | |
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| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | WOOHOO |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | one step closer |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | now it will do the entire file, then not quit cleanly |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:05:00] | JeepJerk: | mythfilldatabase keeps putting everthing in the wrong times/days |
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| [21:09:00] | JeepJerk: | where does mythfilldatabase compile its time/date from? |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | well, the time on your computer is probably the best guess. |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | but it might be that the timezone is set wrong. |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | or that you're running into the QT-related daylight savings bug. |
| [21:11:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm patched |
| [21:11:00] | JeepJerk: | but its WAAAY off |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | no clue, then |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | your timezone set correctly? |
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| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | OK... now that part works, just got a little issue of a race condition to deal with |
| [21:28:00] | ** KarlosII downloads devils whiskey the bardstale remake :) ** | |
| [21:29:00] | defaultro: | hi Beirdo |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | hi |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | question |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | say I get Digital comcast, will my air2pc be able to capture it? |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | how should I know? |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | I don't get digital comcast, and I don't have an air2pc card |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | hasnt arrive yet |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | when is it arriving? |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | it's possible |
| [21:31:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | they are on backorder |
| [21:31:00] | defaultro: | is it also possible to record ppv? |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I doubt it |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | not digitally, anyways |
| [21:31:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | i mean, when we pay for a ppv |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | then stream starts being sent |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | it will be encrypted |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | even if we payed for it? |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | quite likely |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | what do you mean earlier, "not digitally"? |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | if you can display it on a normal TV, you can record it |
| [21:33:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | you'd just have to use an analog signal out of whatever device is decrypting for you |
| [21:33:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [21:34:00] | defaultro: | the signal that's coming out of the dish or directv receiver, svideo, is it mpg format 2? |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | svideo is analog |
| [21:34:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:35:00] | defaultro: | ley say we connnect that svideo out to our pvr250 or 150, I've heard from some people here that the card encodes it to mpg2 format. Am I correct? |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | yes. go read up or something :) |
| [21:35:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | that's what the pvr-x50 cards do |
| [21:35:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | svideo, composite, tuner, whatever. |
| [21:36:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | (which is why they're called hardware-encoder cards) |
| [21:36:00] | defaultro: | in some paint application, for jpegs, we can set the lossless quality. Can we do it for this type of cards too by modifying the code in myth? |
| [21:37:00] | defaultro: | i mean, we can set the quality of jpeg to 60% or 80%, even 100% |
| [21:37:00] | xris: | that's what bitrate is all about. |
| [21:37:00] | defaultro: | so what is the current setting for encoding mpegs |
| [21:37:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:37:00] | Cromz: | xris: thanks for trying to assist me ;) it was a bad recording. and no the one I thought it was.. wasn't the one that was playing the one that was corupted didn't play. |
| [21:38:00] | defaultro: | is their a menu driven in mythfrontend that we can set the bitrate? |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | (and btw, jpeg quality isn't really a percentage, it's just a fractional number from 1 to 10 that people represent as a percentage) |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | defaultro: recording profiles |
| [21:38:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:38:00] | defaultro: | ;) |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | Cromz: gotcha. |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | well, glad you figured it out. |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | defaultro: higher bitrate, larger recording, better quality. |
| [21:38:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [21:39:00] | defaultro: | i will look at it now |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | man, 18 hours and only just finishing the first pass of this encode (granted, it's more than a two-hour recording) |
| [21:40:00] | defaultro: | xris, im seeing RTjpeg now |
| [21:41:00] | defaultro: | and RTjpeg quality |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | defaultro: try "hardware encoders" group |
| [21:41:00] | defaultro: | is that the bar i need to change |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | i saw Hardware DVB encoders and I went it |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | went in |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | then saw Default, LiveTV, HighQuality and so on |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | not dvb |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:42:00] | defaultro: | i dont see any hardware encoders group |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | what groups do you have to choose from? |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | should be software, hardware and transcode. |
| [21:43:00] | defaultro: | i clicked Recoding profiles and saw Hardware DVB encoders and Transcoders |
| [21:43:00] | flouger: | any reason y xmame doesnt launch from myth |
| [21:43:00] | defaultro: | so I should select Transcoders? |
| [21:44:00] | defaultro: | I selected that and that's where I found RTjpeg |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | no |
| [21:44:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | transcoders is for after you record if you want to convert to mpeg4. |
| [21:44:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:44:00] | defaultro: | so where should I go |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | you should have "Software Encoders" "MPEG-2 Encoders" and "Transcoders" |
| [21:45:00] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [21:45:00] | defaultro: | that's under what? |
| [21:45:00] | defaultro: | is that in mythtv-setup or mythfrontned? |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | setup, tv setup, recording profiles |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | in frontend |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | im there |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | do you have a dvb card? |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | i only see two |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | Hardware DVB encoder and Transcoders |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | thought you said you had a pvr-250 |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | oh im sorry |
| [21:46:00] | defaultro: | that mixed it up |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | so which one is it? |
| [21:47:00] | defaultro: | ari2pc |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | ok, huge difference. |
| [21:47:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | in that case, you do want dvb encoder card. |
| [21:47:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | and I don't think you get to choose a bitrate with that. hdtv is already encoded at a specific bitrate. |
| [21:47:00] | defaultro: | i see 3 choices |
| [21:47:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:48:00] | defaultro: | there is default, livetv, highquality and lowquality |
| [21:48:00] | defaultro: | what are those? |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | those are the different recording profiles you have to choose from |
| [21:48:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | when you want to record something, you choose one of those. |
| [21:48:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | I don't know how that works with hdtv, though. |
| [21:48:00] | defaultro: | i don't konw that the current config |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | with other cards, you can set the resolution, bitrate, etc. |
| [21:48:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:49:00] | defaultro: | i will try HighQuality |
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| [21:55:00] | kormoc: | xris, have you or your wife ever heard of Chocolate sauerkraut cake? |
| [21:55:00] | Torq: | hey ho |
| [21:55:00] | Torq: | quick q: has dvb subtitle recording gone into cvs yet? |
| [21:58:00] | catphish: | Torq: dont know |
| [21:58:00] | catphish: | look it up on the dev mailing list |
| [21:58:00] | Torq: | i see some talking on the -dev list but it isnt clear about whether its in or not |
| [21:58:00] | Torq: | first thing i looked at... |
| [21:58:00] | catphish: | ah ok |
| [21:59:00] | catphish: | u could just download it |
| [21:59:00] | catphish: | and see |
| [21:59:00] | Torq: | seems some people are having trouble with it. |
| [21:59:00] | xris: | kormoc: not me |
| [21:59:00] | kormoc: | xris, intrested in it? |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | kormoc: sure |
| [22:01:00] | xris: | mennonite recipe? |
| [22:01:00] | kormoc: | Pa dutch recipe, aye |
| [22:01:00] | kormoc: | I just made one, and I was emailing the recipe to my friend, and I thought you might get a kick out of it |
| [22:01:00] | xris: | if nothing else, I'm intrigued.. being a fan of both chocolate and sauerkraut. |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | i had sauerkraut for dinner. good stuff. |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | mmm, hotdogs and sauerkraut. |
| [22:03:00] | kormoc: | I had sauerkraut beer pork ribs and sauerkraut chocolate cake for dinner last night, so yummy |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | good way to start the spring :) |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | heh |
| [22:04:00] | kormoc: | and banana tea bread for breakfast, with a bunch of cream cheese |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | sounds good |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | I think I ought to go for a hotdog :) |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | spicy dogs |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | the thing with the sauerkraut is, you don't get the flavor of the kraut in the cake, but it keeps the cake super moist, it works just as well with white cakes and such, and given I'm a fan of moist cakes, it's my favorate type. |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | I miss them days where you could get coke+hotdog for 25 cents at frys :) |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | geek food. |
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| [22:09:00] | xris: | kormoc: we'll see what jes says to the recipe... given her experience with the more high-class side of things. |
| [22:10:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
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| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna kick the hell outta ffmpeg people |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | xris: you have a 150 MCE, correct? |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | xris: recall how $ you paid for it? |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | $60 from buy.com |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | ($5 coupon, free shipping) |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | xris: good deal. |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | I think 150 retail is around $99. |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | mce is $70 or so normally, though |
| [22:14:00] | mchou: | besides the remote, what's the diff bet retail and mce? |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | retail has the ir blaster iirc |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | and a different chipset (more fun for the driver folks0 |
| [22:14:00] | mchou: | yeah, I was just referring to the card itself. |
| [22:14:00] | jams: | xris you would consider the -latest package of nuvexport stable enough for a knoppmyth release? |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | does it really have a difeerent chipset? sigh. |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | different* |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | mchou: there are about 4–5 different chipsets for the 150 |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | jams: there are some issues with svcd aspect ratio settings, but it's definitely better than previous releases. |
| [22:16:00] | jams: | cool |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | xris: really?? already? I though 150 is relatively new :) |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | thought* |
| [22:16:00] | jams: | thanks |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | damn hauppauge. |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | mchou: it's not hauppauge, it's connexant |
| [22:17:00] | mchou: | xris: hauppauge chose the parts :) |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | jams: nuvexportrc file, too.. so distro types can tweak it as they like. |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | mchou: they didn't have much choice. |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | it's a good card. |
| [22:17:00] | mchou: | unless connexant EOL thechips. |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | anyway, I need to go some housework. really need to clean out my kegs to get ready for filling with alcohol. |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | heh. |
| [22:22:00] | mini-morfic: | if up/down doesnt switch channels, am i innn another "mode" and if so, which way to i get back to watching tv where up down switches channels? (although i just looked again, and hitting O shows a – where i guess a channel number should be, no info, nothing, datacenter imported a listing, program finder shows a full guide, mythfilldatabase ran, what did i not read right?) |
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| [22:31:00] | flouger: | how do i tell mythfrontend not to do the -joytpe 4 |
| [22:31:00] | flouger: | for mythgame |
| [22:42:00] | flouger: | i need to modify myth database for the controler |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | GOD this ffmpeg API is such a PITA |
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| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | looks like I may have to reencode all the audio as MythTV doesn't do it on video frame boundaries |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | and that will be a nightmare |
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| [22:59:00] | JeepJerk: | guess my CVS wasn't as new as I thought, rebuild from CVS fixed it |
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| [23:00:00] | JeepJerk: | can I watch a recordingwhile its recording? |
| [23:01:00] | JeepJerk: | actually a more inportant issue |
| [23:02:00] | JeepJerk: | my audio device keeps getting locked when I view something and can't be accessed again the next time I want to watch something |
| [23:02:00] | ikaro: | my pvr-350 works very nice. |
| [23:02:00] | JeepJerk: | I think I might be addressing the wrong device |
| [23:03:00] | JeepJerk: | I want to address ALSA but I don't think its recognizing "ALSA : default" |
| [23:05:00] | AndyCap: | JeepJerk: yes, you can. afaik. |
| [23:05:00] | Ashlar: | hey.. I have a much newer xbox, and another one that's already soft-modded.. anyone know the command to take an image of the first to lay down on the second? (I can't seem to find a pre-5659 dashboard image to lay down on /dev/hda51) |
| [23:06:00] | jasoncohen (~jason@dhcp-129-64-143-106.dorm.brandeis.edu) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:06:00] | AndyCap: | mchou: Hmm, did you find and any difference between pvr-150 MCE and retail? it seems the MCE has radio. |
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| [23:14:00] | JeepJerk: | Can I get MythTV to use the aRts engine for sound? |
| [23:14:00] | flouger: | any one know how to change the command line startup in mythgame |
| [23:14:00] | ikaro (~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [23:14:00] | flouger: | need to change the joytype from 4 to 1 |
| [23:15:00] | Ashlar: | flouger, with mame selected in mythfrontend, hit info.. or.. you can do like I did and write a shell script to smooth out any differences between what myth spits out and what xmame wants |
| [23:16:00] | flouger: | whats the info button |
| [23:17:00] | AndyCap: | flouger: i |
| [23:17:00] | Ashlar: | on mine, i |
| [23:17:00] | AndyCap: | flouger: depends on what you put in lircrc though |
| [23:17:00] | flouger: | thanks |
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| [23:20:00] | defaultro: | mchou? |
| [23:21:00] | flouger: | any recomendations on cheep ir serial ports? |
| [23:22:00] | Cromz: | irblaster.info |
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| [23:36:00] | jams: | hey Cromz |
| [23:36:00] | Cromz: | xris: how about a nifty feature for mythweb ;) lol on the recording page add a link to run nuvexport with predinfe settings lol j/k |
| [23:36:00] | Cromz: | jams: :) sup |
| [23:37:00] | Cromz: | er predefined settings even. |
| [23:37:00] | jams: | Cromz, pretty sure that's in the long term plan |
| [23:37:00] | jams: | at least he was talking bout it one day |
| [23:38:00] | Gumby (~gumby@S01060050ba84447c.vc.shawcable.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:38:00] | jams: | or something very similiar |
| [23:38:00] | Cromz: | that's what I get for doing tooo many things at once.. nuvexporting, recovering a crap raid, irc and watching tv.. :/ |
| [23:38:00] | Cromz: | kool.. |
| [23:39:00] | jams: | screwed up the client data did ya? |
| [23:39:00] | Cromz: | not me.. I'm a data recovery engineer.. lol I fix what others screw up |
| [23:39:00] | Cromz: | and this weekend I'm on call :'( |
| [23:39:00] | jams: | eh nevermind |
| [23:40:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [23:40:00] | jams: | your work is very interesting..we will have to discuss more about it |
| [23:41:00] | jams: | not right now..but later |
| [23:41:00] | Cromz: | the customer says 'the array chkdsk'd and made a valid filesystem, so we kept it in production and let people access it for about 4 days' now they want thier data.. yeah right. :> |
| [23:41:00] | Cromz: | k |
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| [23:50:00] | ** riksta remembers Cromz's name for when his disks die :) ** | |
| [23:51:00] | Cromz: | damn I love mythweb.. |
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| [23:53:00] | riksta: | me too Cromz |
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| [23:54:00] | riksta: | MrSpiffy: in answer to your question, kinda, but it's very crude and in .NET |
| [23:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh |
| [23:54:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm getting an error message "unable to create AudioOuput" when I try to watch media with alsa |
| [23:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | alsa = pain |
| [23:55:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone know where I should go with this? |
| [23:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | wish it was easier |
| [23:55:00] | riksta: | no pain here |
| [23:55:00] | riksta: | JeepJerk: do you have ALSA:default in your setup and "default" in mixer? |
| [23:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | depends rik – I have it up on my dell but kernel updates killed it |
| [23:55:00] | JeepJerk: | in my mizer? |
| [23:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | went back to 4.6.358 |
| [23:55:00] | directhex: | 2.6.11 hates me |
| [23:55:00] | JeepJerk: | I have ALSA:default yes |
| [23:56:00] | riksta: | yes i have the latest alsa-libs masked off they broke mine too |
| [23:56:00] | riksta: | JeepJerk: you need the mixer changed from /dev/mixer or whatever to default |
| [23:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's the pain part :) |
| [23:56:00] | riksta: | >=1.0.9 is broken for me |
| [23:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | how about a video card with supported tv out for a set top box ? |
| [23:56:00] | riksta: | pvr250 |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | onboard out |
| [23:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | bingo rik – I tried 1.09 to try and fix it – no go |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | 1.0.8 is just fine |
| [23:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | couldn't get the one Im running working on kernel > than 4.6.10x |
| [23:57:00] | JeepJerk: | riksta: that didn't fix it |
| [23:57:00] | JeepJerk: | still the same message |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | JeepJerk: is something exclusively using the sound |
| [23:57:00] | riksta: | like arts ? |
| [23:58:00] | JeepJerk: | prolly |
| [23:58:00] | riksta: | fuser /dev/dsp |
| [23:58:00] | riksta: | you could try that |
| [23:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | JeepJerk, er – is the alsa module loading properly? |
| [23:58:00] | JeepJerk: | can I kill aRts? |
| [23:58:00] | riksta: | see what procs are using the sound device |
| [23:58:00] | JeepJerk: | fuser says no one is using it |
| [23:59:00] | riksta: | visit the wiki there is a full digital sound howto |
| [23:59:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm there |
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