| Saturday, April 9th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | the FAQ has the answer |
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| [00:03:00] | marmoset: | where does the faq live? |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | read the topic lately? |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | /topic |
| [00:05:00] | marmoset: | ah, sorry, was looking at the chanserv message |
| [00:05:00] | marmoset: | I get 0 hits for timezone in http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/ |
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| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | just go read it |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Wh . . . ngs_Time.3F\ |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | take the \ off the end, that was a paste error |
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| [00:08:00] | marmoset: | great, thanks |
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| [00:10:00] | Jonker: | Can someone please helpme. I can't load X under my user account. It will only load with root |
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| [00:24:00] | fek: | is a cablerewinder a correct english? |
| [00:27:00] | hadees: | fek, whats a cablerwinder? do you mean a pvr? (personal video recorder) |
| [00:28:00] | fek: | its off-topic. i mean a cable take-up stand |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | cablerwinder == cable re-winder |
| [00:28:00] | ** laga watches fek ** | |
| [00:28:00] | ** laga eats some popcorn ** | |
| [00:29:00] | ** kormoc slirps some soda. ** | |
| [00:29:00] | fek: | this for example: http://www.mgshall.com/graphics/cdrewind.jpg |
| [00:32:00] | amax: | guys,... how bad is it if mythcommflag is at 99% CPU usage? |
| [00:33:00] | amax: | just after finishing a recording (by the way) |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | it's bad, better call a priest to give last rites. |
| [00:33:00] | fek: | i think your computer will explode |
| [00:33:00] | fek: | anyway, you should run |
| [00:33:00] | fek: | run away! |
| [00:33:00] | amax: | how funny |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | in all honestly, it's not a issue imho |
| [00:34:00] | kormoc: | mythcommflag trys to flag the commericals as fast as possable |
| [00:34:00] | amax: | ok |
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| [00:41:00] | amax: | another dumb question,... mebe... from what I'm seeing, its better to run the backend on a different computer than the front end, right? (I see that my front end was using up to 20% CPU) |
| [00:42:00] | lpHooge: | If you have a hardware encoder card the backend needs only very litte cpu. probably the same for DVB |
| [00:43:00] | amax: | i dont :/, i have an ATI TV Wonder VE |
| [00:44:00] | amax: | the backend was using around 45% when recording |
| [00:44:00] | amax: | guess now is the time to think about getting a Hauppauge 25o or 350 :) |
| [00:46:00] | lpHooge: | wel,, 45+20% still leaves the CPU 30% idle, even whenr ecording and watching at the same time. so there shouldn't be a problem, right? |
| [00:46:00] | lpHooge: | err, 35% that is *g* |
| [00:47:00] | amax: | right... but I was doing some tests and I noticed some frames being dropped, I just installed mythTV yesterday, so I still have to tweak it / learn how to fully use it |
| [00:51:00] | lpHooge: | hm. maybe you can adjust the priority of mythbackend or something. I myself have a PVR, so never had a problem with cpu usage |
| [00:52:00] | lpHooge: | but I guess getting a pvr250 now isn't very smart, better wait until support for the 150 is stable, since these are less expensive :-) |
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| [00:53:00] | amax: | yeah, i was reading that. Unless, of course, I can get a real bargain... |
| [00:54:00] | ** kormoc is considering a 350 + 500 ** | |
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| [00:56:00] | defaultr0: | is anyone have problems compiling mythdvd latest cvs? |
| [00:59:00] | defaultr0: | anyone around who has air2pc card? |
| [00:59:00] | amax: | negative |
| [01:00:00] | defaultr0: | :) |
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| [01:00:00] | defaultr0 is now known as defaultro | |
| [01:01:00] | Cromz: | <- pvr 350, time warner ( blech ) digital cable. :> |
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| [01:02:00] | ** defaultro found out from a neighbor who has analog comcast that he's able to watch HD ** | |
| [01:02:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | then he has digital |
| [01:03:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | i went there |
| [01:04:00] | Cromz: | I got digital cable for my computer and hd for my living room tv.. which I'll be letting my wife build the mythbox for that one ;) |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | and he's only payin $11 |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | there is NO HD analog signal |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | period |
| [01:04:00] | ** kormoc points to the airwaves. ** | |
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| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | if he has HD, he has digital |
| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | i know but how come, he hdtv with built in tuner is able to see it |
| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | i saw it with my own 2 eyes |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | HDTV over the air is digital |
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| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | but he's only got analog |
| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | he's only subscribe to basic |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | then it wasn't an HD signal. |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | there is *NO* HD on analog |
| [01:04:00] | defaultro: | it's impossible, it's so clear |
| [01:05:00] | defaultro: | i understand |
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| [01:05:00] | defaultro: | but mchou can explain it too |
| [01:05:00] | defaultro: | and ratio was 16:9 and image was not distorted |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | it could be that the HDTV *DIGITAL* signal is on the cable and he can decode it with his built-in tuner |
| [01:05:00] | defaultro: | when it becomes adveristments, it becomes 4:3 |
| [01:05:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | but if it's HD it ain't analog |
| [01:06:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [01:06:00] | defaultro: | yep, i quite believe you |
| [01:06:00] | defaultro: | so signal is just there |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | that's quite likely |
| [01:06:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [01:06:00] | defaultro: | im hoping that if i get comcast next week or 2, my air2pc will be able to see it |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | with luck :) |
| [01:07:00] | defaultro: | however, he's not able to see FOX channel HD, just cbs, abc and wttw |
| [01:07:00] | defaultro: | do you have air2pc? |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | not yet |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | I have 2 on order |
| [01:08:00] | defaultro: | cool |
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| [01:08:00] | defaultro: | i just don't know what that nxt2002 chip |
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| [01:08:00] | defaultro: | they got rid of it |
| [01:08:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [01:08:00] | defaultro: | that's unfair |
| [01:08:00] | defaultro: | they're putting a better chip |
| [01:09:00] | defaultro: | and it's free shipping too |
| [01:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should put in an order for one |
| [01:11:00] | hadees: | what chip? |
| [01:11:00] | defaultro: | nxt2002 |
| [01:11:00] | defaultro: | that's the chip i have |
| [01:12:00] | hadees: | and there is a better one now? |
| [01:12:00] | defaultro: | on cyberestore website, they mentioned that manufacturer are getting rid of this chips on newer airp2c |
| [01:12:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | I'd hope so, the nxt2002 is obselete |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Free shipping in the US only, bah |
| [01:12:00] | defaultro: | it's unfair because i just bought mine last february |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should get it shipped to a coworker down there and get him to bring it up on his next trip |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | there's nothing "unfair" about it |
| [01:13:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | you bought a product |
| [01:13:00] | defaultro: | i hope i can exchange it |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | now the product is discontinued, and the replacements aren't available yet |
| [01:13:00] | hadees: | defaultro, or just sell it on ebay right now |
| [01:13:00] | defaultro: | i'm waiting for their reply |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | and somehow this is unfair to you? |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | why the hell should they exchange it? |
| [01:13:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [01:13:00] | defaultro: | i know |
| [01:13:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [01:14:00] | defaultro: | i'll just keep it and buy a new one |
| [01:14:00] | defaultro: | so i'll have 2 tuners |
| [01:14:00] | defaultro: | unfortunatley, i don't have enough pci slots |
| [01:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is never enough pci slots/bw |
| [01:14:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [01:14:00] | defaultro: | anyways, im going to order the spdif connector |
| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh if I order one maybe it will be shipped by the time I'm done with all the European stuff I have to do for work so that I can get around to installing it :) |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: buy a DVB-T card while you're in Europe :) |
| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been considering that too |
| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | since they are more common and from what I'm t]old |
| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | \cheaper over there |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wonder if there is anything else over there I might want that is harder to get over here |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | BSG? :) |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | HEH |
| [01:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | well I was thinking more of a technical sense |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | ah JEEEEEZ. |
| [01:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh bt was all that was needed for the BSG stuff :) |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | 72 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 14 not upgraded. |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | Need to get 115MB of archives. |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | fuuuuck |
| [01:20:00] | amax: | somebody just ran apt-get... |
| [01:20:00] | Randall64: | Microcenter has non-hideous powered usb2 hubs for $13. |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | this is on my fileserver. |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | haven't done it in a while |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | it's gonna upgrade all of X. |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:21:00] | amax: | Beirdo, where are you getting your digital from? is it satellite or cable? |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have digital right now |
| [01:21:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, what's the diff between dbv-t and dbv-s? |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | one letter |
| [01:21:00] | amax: | oh, i thought you had from what you said about getting the air2pc cards |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | -t is terrestrial broadcast |
| [01:22:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | -s is satellite |
| [01:22:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | -c is cable |
| [01:22:00] | defaultro: | oh, i didn;t know that one |
| [01:22:00] | Randall64: | -p is carrier pigeon |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | amax: I said I have 2 on order :) |
| [01:22:00] | defaultro: | am i correct that our air2pc isnt a dvb card? |
| [01:22:00] | pigeon: | did someone call? |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | I can receive Buffalo HDTV signals over the air |
| [01:22:00] | amax: | aaahhhh |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | and likely digital on my cable line |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: read the FAQ :) |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | I see the minion stayed 20s longer than the boss :) |
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| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, it's upgrading like everything |
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| [01:41:00] | maddhaggis: | I'm BACK!!! |
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| [01:43:00] | maddhaggis: | Hmm... All is Quiet... They must have died. |
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| [01:46:00] | amax: | in reality, they are hoping that by not answering, you might go away... |
| [01:46:00] | amax: | <g> |
| [01:46:00] | maddhaggis: | Not a chance |
| [01:46:00] | maddhaggis: | I'm a desperate man |
| [01:47:00] | maddhaggis: | HD-3000 is the bain of my existance. |
| [01:48:00] | Randall64: | bane |
| [01:48:00] | maddhaggis: | yes |
| [01:48:00] | Randall64: | brain |
| [01:48:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [01:48:00] | ** maddhaggis sucks at spelling werdz ** | |
| [01:49:00] | ** Randall64 learns how to swap out optical drive and install 2nd hard drive in his new powermac ** | |
| [01:49:00] | ** GotD0t watches reruns of old scifi episodes ** | |
| [01:50:00] | maddhaggis: | Is it true that the new macs are based off of the linux kernel? |
| [01:50:00] | GotD0t: | nope |
| [01:50:00] | GotD0t: | osx is BSD based ;-) |
| [01:50:00] | Randall64: | madd: and it's a mach microkernel thing, with a freebsd userland |
| [01:50:00] | maddhaggis: | yummy |
| [01:50:00] | Randall64: | The closest you get to linux is installing stuff with fink (apt for OS X). |
| [01:51:00] | maddhaggis: | nice |
| [01:51:00] | maddhaggis: | no thank you |
| [01:51:00] | GotD0t: | or using the OS X version of portage |
| [01:51:00] | Randall64: | Wait a minute. My eyes starting itching when I switched over to this crappy CRT. |
| [01:51:00] | Randall64: | I clearly have justification for a new LCD. |
| [01:51:00] | GotD0t: | haha |
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| [01:52:00] | maddhaggis: | I have a 72' plasma that I use for my second computer. |
| [01:52:00] | Randall64: | I almost ripped the itchy bastards out when they woke me up at 5AM this morning. |
| [01:52:00] | maddhaggis: | just kidding |
| [01:52:00] | Randall64: | You have a yacht for a display? |
| [01:52:00] | maddhaggis: | no |
| [01:52:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [01:53:00] | Randall64: | a BIG yacht |
| [01:53:00] | maddhaggis: | LG makes a 72" |
| [01:53:00] | maddhaggis: | $100,000 |
| [01:53:00] | GotD0t: | theres a BIG difference between 72' and 72" |
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| [01:53:00] | maddhaggis: | no joke |
| [01:54:00] | ** maddhaggis sucks with gramatical symbols too ** | |
| [01:54:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [01:54:00] | A|: | anyone from the .uk handy? |
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| [01:55:00] | maddhaggis: | I was born in Scotland, Does that help? |
| [01:55:00] | GotD0t: | i just bought a book written by someone in the UK? |
| [01:55:00] | GotD0t: | does that help |
| [01:55:00] | A|: | heh |
| [01:55:00] | Randall64: | I do a convincing accent. |
| [01:55:00] | port80: | I have an avermedia 771 card in my debian unstable box running 2.6.10 . I have modprobed dvb-core, dvb-bt8xx, etc etc. But I cannot find device /dev/dvb/* |
| [01:55:00] | A|: | wondering if anyone knows of Dizzee Rascal |
| [01:55:00] | port80: | I have Apr 8 23:42:38 TV kernel: DVB: registering frontend 0 (Zarlink MT352 DVB-T)... in my messages log |
| [01:55:00] | A|: | hip hop artist from the uk |
| [01:55:00] | GotD0t: | i know him.... and im not even from the UK |
| [01:56:00] | maddhaggis: | He's my uncle |
| [01:56:00] | Randall64: | I saw the black eyed peas the other day on Conan and they freaked me out a little. |
| [01:56:00] | port80: | do I need to mknod? |
| [01:56:00] | GotD0t: | haha Randall64 |
| [01:56:00] | GotD0t: | they're sexy |
| [01:56:00] | A|: | he is in town tonight, thinking of hitting up the show, but not that familiar with his shit |
| [01:56:00] | maddhaggis: | Fergie is hot |
| [01:56:00] | GotD0t: | GO! |
| [01:57:00] | GotD0t: | hes good shit A| |
| [01:57:00] | ** port80 checks if his mic is on *tap* *tap* ** | |
| [01:57:00] | A|: | ever seen him live? |
| [01:57:00] | GotD0t: | uhh |
| [01:57:00] | GotD0t: | not hardly |
| [01:57:00] | maddhaggis: | I saw him dead once |
| [01:57:00] | maddhaggis: | back in the 80's |
| [01:58:00] | maddhaggis: | PCP is bad for you |
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| [01:59:00] | Mrgoose: | does the sync problems happen when you trancode to divx? |
| [02:02:00] | rpete: | actually yes, I haven't been able to transcode to divx to my satisfaction yet |
| [02:03:00] | Mrgoose: | y not |
| [02:04:00] | maddhaggis: | defaultro: Are you listening? |
| [02:06:00] | daved_: | is there any commandline arg to mythtv to make it start playing livetv ? |
| [02:07:00] | Mrgoose: | rpete: quality satisfaction |
| [02:08:00] | rpete: | Mrgoose, I get what appears to be tearing in the divx |
| [02:08:00] | rpete: | but I've only tried a minute or so of video, so I don't know if a/v sync would be a problem or not |
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| [02:09:00] | Mrgoose: | tearing? |
| [02:09:00] | daved_: | is there any commandline arg to mythtv to make it start playing livetv ? |
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| [02:11:00] | rpete: | daved_, doesn't mythtv do that, as opposed to mythfrontend? |
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| [02:12:00] | daved_: | no |
| [02:13:00] | Mrgoose: | tearing? |
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| [02:15:00] | rpete: | daved_, mine does, so shrug |
| [02:15:00] | daved_: | mine just goes to main menu |
| [02:16:00] | rpete: | so it does the same thing as mythfrontend? |
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| [02:18:00] | daved_: | yeah |
| [02:18:00] | rpete: | what does 'type mythtv' say? |
| [02:18:00] | daved_: | this is kinda frustratiing because im trying to do this on a machine in the living room |
| [02:19:00] | daved_: | from a machine in my office (ssh'd in) |
| [02:19:00] | daved_: | machine in living room has no kb |
| [02:19:00] | rpete: | perhaps it's been aliased or symlinked |
| [02:19:00] | daved_: | it's another binary, it's there, different sizes even |
| [02:19:00] | daved_: | this is cvs head myth |
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| [02:20:00] | rpete: | funky, since I can recall (0.11 or thereabouts) up to my present 0.17, mythtv has been live tv |
| [02:20:00] | daved_: | it was for me too |
| [02:20:00] | daved_: | i went to head to fix the timechange weirdness |
| [02:21:00] | daved_: | *shrug* |
| [02:21:00] | daved_: | will figure it out later |
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| [02:24:00] | Geckofiend: | mythtv != mtyhfrontend that's never changed |
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| [02:26:00] | zamboni: | man cartoons never looked so good! |
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| [02:30:00] | Cromz: | Geckofiend: hey thanks for your contrabution in this great app ;) I'mma loving MythTV :) |
| [02:31:00] | Geckofiend: | heh thanks |
| [02:31:00] | zamboni: | any 2.6.12 kernel users here with a pvr-250? |
| [02:31:00] | zamboni: | just got mine going |
| [02:31:00] | zamboni: | very slick this hw compression |
| [02:31:00] | Cromz: | from the time I've been in here.. I never see anyone say thanks.. so I thought I would. |
| [02:32:00] | Cromz: | and to all the dev people. |
| [02:32:00] | zamboni: | cheerz and amen! |
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| [02:37:00] | quink: | if my program guide is off by an hour, is that something i fix in mythsetup? |
| [02:38:00] | amax: | guys, when I play live TV it is jerky, when I exit mythtv I see a bunch of prebuffer timeouts, i was able to solve it (kinda) by lowering my resolution, is there a better way / different way to solve this? |
| [02:38:00] | quink: | does 3d stuff work fine on the computer? |
| [02:39:00] | quink: | like glxgears |
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| [02:39:00] | amax: | mmm, it should, it has an nvidia card but... well,... ah! i need to install the nvidia driver... thanks |
| [02:39:00] | quink: | heh |
| [02:39:00] | amax: | quink, the FAQ has something on your question. Apparently a problem with Qt |
| [02:41:00] | quink: | while someone is here, does anyone else have menu speed problems in mythmusic? |
| [02:42:00] | metusine: | oh yes |
| [02:42:00] | metusine: | that's what i keep asking in here |
| [02:42:00] | quink: | i found a fix, once |
| [02:42:00] | quink: | but lost it |
| [02:42:00] | quink: | something i edited in my xorg.conf and it sped thigns up to normal |
| [02:42:00] | metusine: | it's pretty much unusable for my 10,000 song collection |
| [02:42:00] | quink: | same here |
| [02:42:00] | metusine: | i think normal is slow |
| [02:42:00] | quink: | i have 50gigs of music |
| [02:43:00] | quink: | well, then i mean usable |
| [02:43:00] | metusine: | is there a way to make it use dir structure instead of alphabetic lists? |
| [02:43:00] | quink: | somethign with qt or xv or soemthign like that i forget exactly as i am not completely familiar |
| [02:43:00] | quink: | not that i am aware of |
| [02:43:00] | metusine: | it sucks ass having to scroll down to s-z |
| [02:43:00] | quink: | yeah |
| [02:43:00] | metusine: | i figure the speed issues are mostly just getting data from mysql |
| [02:43:00] | quink: | i am just gonig to delete a shitload of my stuff |
| [02:44:00] | quink: | i got all my music from my boss, he made me digitize 2boxes of cds(about 400) |
| [02:44:00] | metusine: | freevo seems to handle music and videos much better |
| [02:44:00] | quink: | plus i did my dads collection of a few hundred for xmas a year ago |
| [02:44:00] | quink: | but the majority of it is shit |
| [02:44:00] | quink: | so i need to purne |
| [02:44:00] | metusine: | yeah |
| [02:44:00] | metusine: | i have my collection scattered over a few pc's |
| [02:44:00] | metusine: | dupes all over |
| [02:44:00] | metusine: | misnamed |
| [02:44:00] | metusine: | etc etc |
| [02:45:00] | quink: | i have no dupes |
| [02:45:00] | quink: | and its quite organized |
| [02:45:00] | quink: | even ran albumart tool to get all cd covers |
| [02:45:00] | metusine: | going to speed a weekend soon just moving it all into one place and tidying it |
| [02:45:00] | metusine: | oh |
| [02:45:00] | metusine: | on a tangent |
| [02:45:00] | quink: | heh |
| [02:45:00] | quink: | have albumart on your stuff? |
| [02:45:00] | metusine: | can you make myth grab stills from avi's for mythvideo |
| [02:45:00] | metusine: | all the full cd's |
| [02:45:00] | quink: | dunno |
| [02:46:00] | maddhaggis: | cucumbers taste better pickled. |
| [02:46:00] | maddhaggis: | oops sorry |
| [02:46:00] | metusine: | heh |
| [02:47:00] | maddhaggis: | has anyone managed to get the HD3000 to work on a 64bit system w/ FC3? If so how? |
| [02:52:00] | quink: | is it true .18 is coming otu soon? |
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| [02:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | quink: Yeah |
| [02:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Isaac was intending on are release this weekend. so even if not this weekend it will be very soon |
| [02:55:00] | metusine: | mmm |
| [02:55:00] | metusine: | anything interesting new |
| [02:55:00] | metusine: | ? |
| [02:57:00] | Delemas_: | hmm I'm trying to use nuv2avi to archive some myth content. I'm getting a segfault from lame in the process. Anyone remember how to turn this off temporarily? *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0855d330 *** |
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| [03:01:00] | quink: | from what i gather its just bugfixes/maintenance, right? |
| [03:06:00] | Delemas_: | Ah here we go I have to MALLOC_CHECK_=0 |
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| [03:16:00] | Netslayer: | got a problem |
| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | i share /mnt/raid/video with all the myth boxes in the house |
| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | and for some reason the masterbackend sharing the nfs is acting up |
| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | i'm getting: rror: myth://192.168.1.28:6543/1388_20050408180000_20050408190000.nuv file not found |
| [03:17:00] | quink: | did the raid volume go bad? |
| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | on all the boxes but i can go /mnt/raid/video/.. and copy it fine |
| [03:17:00] | quink: | any funky errors in dmesg? |
| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | nah i can copy the video fine from this box |
| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | nope |
| [03:18:00] | quink: | i had problems where my lvm share went bad, one drive of 3, i could copy most of stuff just fine |
| [03:18:00] | quink: | had to copy certains files to see it error out |
| [03:18:00] | Netslayer: | i did include NFS v3 support last week in my kernel .. that shouldn't have done this |
| [03:19:00] | Delemas_: | database corruption? |
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| [03:19:00] | Netslayer: | Delemas, as soon as i restart the nfs server on the master backend all goes well |
| [03:19:00] | Netslayer: | ie the actual daemon |
| [03:19:00] | zamboni: | Netslayer how large is the file? |
| [03:20:00] | Netslayer: | i have NFS server support built as a module and loaded, and nfsv3 built in |
| [03:20:00] | Netslayer: | ~1.8GB |
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| [03:24:00] | Netslayer: | hrm ok i'm wrong that doesn't fix it |
| [03:24:00] | Netslayer: | i don't get it |
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| [03:27:00] | zamboni: | Netslayer: I guess you've tried to manually load the module and or lookeed at the dmesg output? |
| [03:27:00] | Netslayer: | nfsd: last server has exited |
| [03:27:00] | Netslayer: | nfsd: unexporting all filesystems |
| [03:27:00] | Netslayer: | that is repeated |
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| [03:28:00] | Netslayer: | this is nuts, i can go into the dir mounted right on this box and get, touch files |
| [03:28:00] | Netslayer: | and myth can't find them |
| [03:28:00] | Netslayer: | can i run the frontend in a super verbose debug mode? |
| [03:29:00] | zamboni: | thats a good question, but I dont know.... |
| [03:29:00] | zamboni: | my myth box and experienc eis only days old |
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| [03:30:00] | zamboni: | I do know that I have mesed up the databases a whole lot in th epast few days |
| [03:30:00] | zamboni: | and dropped them out at least 5 times |
| [03:30:00] | Netslayer: | 2005-04–08 19:30:02.783 write->11 548 QUERY_CHECKFILE[]:[]24[]:[]Day 4: 10:... |
| [03:30:00] | Netslayer: | Error: myth://192.168.1.28:6543/1388_20050408180000_20050408190000.nuv file not found |
| [03:30:00] | Netslayer: | mythfrontend -v all |
| [03:30:00] | flouger: | is there a way to do a global hue color change? |
| [03:30:00] | rpete: | looking in root directory? |
| [03:31:00] | zamboni: | yeah the mount point is consistent? |
| [03:31:00] | zamboni: | ?? |
| [03:31:00] | Netslayer: | i have the mount point setup perfectly, i've been using this setup for years |
| [03:31:00] | Netslayer: | /mnt/raid/video/... is the mounted dir |
| [03:31:00] | Netslayer: | it's set at that in all the frontends |
| [03:32:00] | Netslayer: | the only thing i changed last week was the nfs module in the masterbackend kernel |
| [03:32:00] | Netslayer: | it didn't have v3 built in so i built it in |
| [03:32:00] | rpete: | Netslayer, when you run mythtvsetup, and go to general settings, what does it say the capture directory is set to? |
| [03:32:00] | Netslayer: | /mnt/raid/video |
| [03:32:00] | rpete: | and that's mounted on the backend? |
| [03:33:00] | Netslayer: | yup |
| [03:33:00] | Netslayer: | this is odd, if i press it a lot of times it starts playing |
| [03:34:00] | flouger: | bah i dont want to set the hue for every channel |
| [03:34:00] | Netslayer: | my backend is filling with these too 2005-04–08 19:34:24.978 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| [03:35:00] | Netslayer: | this is definitly another bug |
| [03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Netslayer: I've seen a lot of mention of the "Unknown command" issue on the -dev list |
| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | you might want to check the archives for that olne |
| [03:36:00] | rpete: | flouger, you can do it with mysql easily |
| [03:36:00] | Netslayer: | found the exact post |
| [03:37:00] | Netslayer: | nfs, unknown error and nfs |
| [03:37:00] | flouger: | i dont mysql though ill look in the forums |
| [03:38:00] | rpete: | flouer, mysql -u mythtv -h HOSTNAME -p mythconverg |
| [03:38:00] | rpete: | hostname being your backend |
| [03:38:00] | rpete: | then, update channel set hue = XXX; |
| [03:38:00] | rpete: | where XXX is the hue you want |
| [03:38:00] | flouger: | thnks |
| [03:38:00] | rpete: | worked? |
| [03:40:00] | flouger: | eh forgot my mysql password |
| [03:40:00] | flouger: | what was the default one |
| [03:40:00] | Netslayer: | ya it's not fixed yet |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | the default is mythtv |
| [03:41:00] | flouger: | i logined to it using root |
| [03:42:00] | flouger: | how do i select the database |
| [03:42:00] | rpete: | use mythconverg; |
| [03:43:00] | flouger: | thanks |
| [03:43:00] | flouger: | sorry for the stupid questios |
| [03:43:00] | rpete: | it's okay, I had to look up the update syntax :-) |
| [03:43:00] | rpete: | don't use sql often enough |
| [03:44:00] | zamboni: | I nevr feed the sqls in my neighbourhood |
| [03:44:00] | zamboni: | hate sqls they ruin my garden |
| [03:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | We feed squirrels everyday :) |
| [03:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gives the cats something to chitter at through the window :) |
| [03:45:00] | rpete: | our cats are fascinated when they see other cats outside |
| [03:45:00] | zamboni: | ahh a stragedy |
| [03:45:00] | rpete: | maybe even a bit jealous |
| [03:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | rpete: heh |
| [03:46:00] | port80: | I have been googling for about three weeks now but I cannot find a way to get my avermedia 771 card to work under mythtv |
| [03:46:00] | port80: | there are posts about saying just do XYZ, but I cannot get it to work |
| [03:46:00] | rpete: | of course they're really just pussies as heart, once one got outside and we found her crying to get back in by the window |
| [03:47:00] | port80: | does anybody here have that card working? |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | rpete: Mine too. |
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| [03:55:00] | port80: | If somebody can read this then please kick me. At least then I'll know that nobody can help me, not that I'm on ignore. |
| [03:55:00] | rpete: | sorry port80 I cannot kick you |
| [03:55:00] | ** lpHooge kicks port80 ** | |
| [03:55:00] | rpete: | no one watching has avermedia 771, so they say nothing |
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| [03:56:00] | zamboni: | rpete is wise |
| [03:57:00] | port80: | rpete, that's fair. But I asked a question two hours ago an nobody responded then either |
| [03:57:00] | zamboni: | same thing |
| [03:57:00] | Cromz: | so like I'm having this problem.. samba and cups.. er.. wait.. I mean I forget that while I'm watching recordings that I can skip past the commecials ;) lol |
| [03:57:00] | zamboni: | no one has one .. a t least anyone active on the channel when you asked |
| [03:57:00] | rpete: | ask again later :-) |
| [03:58:00] | zamboni: | aye |
| [03:58:00] | rpete: | or try the mailing list maybe |
| [03:58:00] | port80: | so nobody has had to mknod with their cards? |
| [03:58:00] | port80: | rpete, I haven't posted but have read through everything I could find in the last three weeks |
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| [03:59:00] | lpHooge: | probably most/all people run either devfs oder udev, so no need for mknod |
| [03:59:00] | zamboni: | port80 are you using udev by chance? |
| [03:59:00] | port80: | debian unstable 2.6.10 kernel |
| [04:00:00] | zamboni: | yes so I suspect udev is installed |
| [04:00:00] | port80: | I'll have to check |
| [04:00:00] | port80: | I'm not sure how to check for that |
| [04:00:00] | lpHooge: | look if udevd is running |
| [04:00:00] | zamboni: | so its a case where you do not have ps ax | grep udev |
| [04:00:00] | port80: | I did roll my own 2.6.10 as well with udev, but it had nxd6000 complaints |
| [04:01:00] | zamboni: | so you removed it udev? |
| [04:01:00] | port80: | no udev it look like |
| [04:01:00] | zamboni: | I had a lot of trouble with udev & hot[plug not enumerating the devices |
| [04:01:00] | zamboni: | when I came to 2.6 kernels |
| [04:02:00] | zamboni: | so I stole the ubuntu ufev configs |
| [04:02:00] | port80: | just installing now |
| [04:02:00] | zamboni: | udev |
| [04:02:00] | port80: | ahh |
| [04:02:00] | port80: | yep |
| [04:02:00] | zamboni: | and things worked better |
| [04:02:00] | zamboni: | didnt feel like crafting the missing scrips |
| [04:02:00] | zamboni: | me lazy |
| [04:03:00] | zamboni: | myt now I should make one for ivtv |
| [04:03:00] | zamboni: | man these hw cards roick! |
| [04:03:00] | port80: | will scantv work for dvb? |
| [04:03:00] | zamboni: | at least for encoding |
| [04:03:00] | zamboni: | think not |
| [04:03:00] | port80: | I really should have spent more on a better card |
| [04:03:00] | zamboni: | might |
| [04:04:00] | zamboni: | but its a sat card |
| [04:04:00] | zamboni: | right? |
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| [04:04:00] | port80: | dvb-t |
| [04:04:00] | zamboni: | or istit terristrial |
| [04:04:00] | zamboni: | ah |
| [04:04:00] | quink: | anyone know the encoding differences in mythdvd between good medium excellent ? |
| [04:04:00] | zamboni: | dunno if the tables are there |
| [04:04:00] | port80: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_TUNER(index=0;name="";type=unknown;capability=0x0 [];rangelow=0;rangehigh=0;rxsubchans=0x0 [];audmode=MONO;signal=0;afc=0): Invalid argument |
| [04:05:00] | port80: | that comes up when I test with scantv and xawtv |
| [04:05:00] | zamboni: | there ya go |
| [04:06:00] | flouger: | how do i save the changes in mysql |
| [04:06:00] | flouger: | or is it done automaticly |
| [04:07:00] | zamboni: | port80 you've seen this thread? maybe something useful in it:http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /000365.html |
| [04:07:00] | rpete: | flouger, they are saved |
| [04:07:00] | flouger: | bah when i went through and changed them in mysql they all got set to 0 somehow |
| [04:07:00] | flouger: | ill deal with it tomorrow |
| [04:08:00] | port80: | thanks zamboni |
| [04:08:00] | rpete: | flouger, what did you change them to? |
| [04:08:00] | zamboni: | np |
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| [04:10:00] | port80: | okay so I just restarted with udev running and modprobed the modules, now I have /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0, should I just install mythtv and hope it works? Or is there another way before I do that? |
| [04:10:00] | port80: | (to test) |
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| [04:11:00] | zamboni: | you can get mplayer or xine to try to read the device |
| [04:11:00] | AranC23: | azap is needed first, iirc |
| [04:12:00] | zamboni: | or use some tools from the shell |
| [04:12:00] | port80: | *nods* |
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| [04:40:00] | ** FairWtns walks in and cracks a beer. ** | |
| [04:41:00] | FairWtns: | Sup ppl. |
| [04:42:00] | xris: | beer? |
| [04:42:00] | xris: | you didn't have anything more sophisticated? ;) |
| [04:43:00] | xris: | you get bonus points for port, mead or scotch. |
| [04:44:00] | FairWtns: | Nah. |
| [04:45:00] | FairWtns: | Just a heiny. |
| [04:45:00] | FairWtns: | And no, nothing more sophisticated. |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | well, at least it's european beer. |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | (sort of) |
| [04:45:00] | FairWtns: | It's the best store bought beer that's universally available. :) |
| [04:45:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone here cut commercials and conver to divx? |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | sam smith is easily obtained. |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: xvid, and yes. |
| [04:46:00] | FairWtns: | Speaking of which, remember when I was talking to you a while ago about the upcoming scheduled in mythweb? |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | FairWtns: sort of. |
| [04:46:00] | Mrgoose: | xris: how long does it take for say a 30 minute show, and what do you use to cut commercials, and do the audio/video stay in sync? |
| [04:46:00] | FairWtns: | I was having loading problems because I have a *ton* of schedules (most of which conflict, but I just let myth sort it out). |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: what kind of recording? nuv or mpeg2? |
| [04:46:00] | Mrgoose: | mpeg2, but its a .nuv . Pvr-250 |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | FairWtns: ? |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: .nuv means nothing, they all are (I curse the devs once again for not making a distinction for mpeg files) |
| [04:47:00] | Mrgoose: | because when i use nuvexport to mpeg2->mpeg2 cut my shizzle is out of sync |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | really? |
| [04:47:00] | Mrgoose: | yep |
| [04:47:00] | FairWtns: | Anyway, I found that if I just edited scheduled_recordings.php and set the default values to only show scheduled and conflicts it loads 10x faster. |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | talk to Beirdo, he handles that part of nuvexport. |
| [04:47:00] | Mrgoose: | yea i have talked to him |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | FairWtns: get your cookies working properly and you won't need to edit the file. |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | they'll stick with your session. |
| [04:47:00] | Mrgoose: | so i was gonna just try to do xvid and see how that works out |
| [04:48:00] | FairWtns: | Oh, no sh<beep>. |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: in that case, you can edit within myth |
| [04:48:00] | FairWtns: | Wonder what's up w/my cookies then. |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | FairWtns: you follow the directions in README? |
| [04:49:00] | Mrgoose: | xris: how long does it usually take you to convert and should i use nuvexport to do it? |
| [04:49:00] | ** FairWtns looks at xris quizzically. ** | |
| [04:49:00] | FairWtns: | Guess I should read the README. :) |
| [04:49:00] | ** FairWtns goes off to RTFRM. ** | |
| [04:50:00] | FairWtns: | Wow. That's quite complete. Thanks xris. |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: with noise reduction enabled, it takes my 2.4G p4 about 4 hours to encode a half hour show (without commercials) in ffmpeg xvid. |
| [04:54:00] | xris: | slightly more than half that if you turn off noise reduction, or if you enable fast noise reduction (look in nuvexportrc) |
| [04:54:00] | xris: | FairWtns: it's the single most common problem people have with mythweb. |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | which is why I'm dealing away with the cookies in the next version (when I have time to write it) and going to a user-based auth system |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | xris: 4 hours |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | wow |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: xvid/divx are heavy on the CPU if you want quality. |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | yea |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: oh, I forgot to mention that I use dual-pass... so half of that if you just use normal vbr. |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | so what do the people who be releasig tv recordings for groups use? |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | I like all of my files to come out the same size. |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | the illegal ones? usually xvid from a direct satellite dvb mpeg file. |
| [04:56:00] | Mrgoose: | oh |
| [04:56:00] | Mrgoose: | cause they have rips out |
| [04:56:00] | Mrgoose: | about 15 minutes after a show is over |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | in which case you wouldn't need noise reduction. they're also probably using windows-based tools like tmpgenc that are faster. |
| [04:56:00] | Mrgoose: | ahh |
| [04:57:00] | Mrgoose: | so if i was using digital cable i wouldn't need noise reduction |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | if you had clear QAM, yes. |
| [04:57:00] | Mrgoose: | QAM? |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | I can probably do without it with my svideo input from my Dish receiver. |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | QAM == the format used by digital cable. clear QAM is unencrypted. |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | encrypted cable can't be recorded (legally or easily) |
| [04:58:00] | FairWtns: | I really have to look into HDTV recording, fast. Before that flag goes into effect. |
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| [04:58:00] | xris: | FairWtns: yeah. hmm, I should spend some time working on setting up a friend's server for him so I can guilt him into buying me an air2pc card. |
| [04:58:00] | FairWtns: | It just seems to like you need much more horsepower to deal with that. |
| [04:59:00] | zamboni: | cable systems in NA are mostly digicipler II I think |
| [04:59:00] | ** kormoc makes a note to not accept too much help from xris ;) ** | |
| [04:59:00] | Beirdo: | zamboni: not so sure about that |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | zamboni: we don't discuss illegal stuff here. |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | kormoc: lol. he's rich, I don't feel bad. |
| [04:59:00] | zamboni: | not discussing illegal stuff |
| [04:59:00] | zamboni: | no sir |
| [04:59:00] | kormoc: | heh, gotcha |
| [04:59:00] | Beirdo: | not yet, but it's only a quick step away |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | zamboni: just saying not to take that conversation too much further. |
| [04:59:00] | zamboni: | talking about how to is another stry |
| [05:00:00] | zamboni: | roger |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | anyway, Mrgoose, the svcd/dvd/dvcd encoders with nuvexport are pretty fast as long as you turn off noise reduction. noise reduction is just slow no matter what you do. |
| [05:01:00] | Mrgoose: | my audio/video gets out of sync there |
| [05:01:00] | Mrgoose: | i'll try tmpenc in windows |
| [05:01:00] | Mrgoose: | you ever heard of virtualdub |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [05:02:00] | Mrgoose: | could i use that? |
| [05:02:00] | FairWtns: | Alright. I'm out. May the .18 be with you. |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | I don't think it's an encoder. |
| [05:02:00] | Mrgoose: | ? |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | when I used to do svcd ripping, I used it in conjunction with tmpgenc to get svcd's |
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| [05:02:00] | xris: | maybe it's different now. |
| [05:02:00] | Mrgoose: | hrmm |
| [05:03:00] | xris: | anyway, if you're getting sync issues, then you have something else wrong with your setup. |
| [05:03:00] | Mrgoose: | dunno |
| [05:03:00] | xris: | ok, food time. |
| [05:03:00] | Beirdo: | sooooo close |
| [05:04:00] | Beirdo: | now it's not crashing |
| [05:04:00] | Beirdo: | it's deadlocking or something |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Any idea why when installing Solaris 9 , doing a full software oem install (1.4gigs) would result in an install using up only 980Megs of space and not include the development libraries ? |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | This is bugging me |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | the development stuff needs to be added specifically, I think |
| [05:05:00] | AranC23: | GreyFoxx: did it really install the stuff from the second disk? |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | can't remember the magic for it off hand |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | AranC23: Used a DVD, it was all on the one disk |
| [05:06:00] | AranC23: | ahh... no idea then... I have to install solaris 9 on 6 machines next week... I hated the solaris 8 installer |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: I was offered 4 install options, each including more stuff than the last |
| [05:06:00] | Beirdo: | we use jumpstart, so... |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | so I just installed the full one which was suppose to include the development apps/libraries |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | AND the dvdrom popped out so I can't do it again and only pick the development install |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | until I pop into the office tomorrow |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never had this happen before on god knows how many solaris installs I've done over the years |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | and a few installs with this same dvd |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | now I wanna killa something :) |
| [05:08:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [05:08:00] | Beirdo: | I FINALLY have nuv2avi not crashing :) |
| [05:09:00] | Beirdo: | don't work again yet, but I'm getting there |
| [05:09:00] | Mrgoose: | cool |
| [05:10:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, no wonder I'm hungry... |
| [05:10:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't eat dinner. |
| [05:10:00] | ** Beirdo is a dumbass sometimes ** | |
| [05:12:00] | ** zamboni has burned a few pots and pans while playing at the computer ** | |
| [05:16:00] | ** Mrgoose has burned a few blunts while playing at the computer ** | |
| [05:16:00] | zamboni: | any chance of a save/restore default settings/dbase button making it into mythtv? |
| [05:17:00] | zamboni: | for bozos like me? |
| [05:17:00] | AranC23: | I've killed two settings tables recently with boneheaded statements like update settinngs set data='xine blah blah blah'; |
| [05:18:00] | AranC23: | who needs a where clause? |
| [05:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure it won't be in as a button |
| [05:19:00] | Beirdo: | that would be a PITA to implement |
| [05:19:00] | AranC23: | best bet is daily mysqldump's of the mythconverg database, imo |
| [05:20:00] | zamboni: | yeah or everytime you go into it to fiddle around? |
| [05:20:00] | zamboni: | from the frontend or setup |
| [05:21:00] | zamboni: | dumpthedatabase |
| [05:21:00] | AranC23: | I never think I'm going to hork anything, so I rarely remember to do one manually unless I'm upgrading. Which is why I had to automate it to protect myself from me. |
| [05:21:00] | zamboni: | a good idea |
| [05:22:00] | zamboni: | AranC23 you use a cronjob? |
| [05:22:00] | zamboni: | or a feature of mysqld itself? |
| [05:23:00] | AranC23: | just a cronjob |
| [05:23:00] | Mrgoose: | handjob |
| [05:23:00] | zamboni: | sounds good |
| [05:23:00] | zamboni: | lol |
| [05:24:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
| [05:24:00] | Mrgoose: | handjobs are so 7th grade |
| [05:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | make a cron that puts a `date +%w` in the filename and pipes the output of mysqldump through gzip so that way you can keep 7 days worth of compressed backups in only one line of code. :) |
| [05:25:00] | zamboni: | I had to tolerate them until the 8 grade in the porch of my first gf |
| [05:25:00] | zamboni: | man Diana Rigg was really hot in her day |
| [05:25:00] | AranC23: | Captain_Murdoch: I just use the date and find -mtime +15 or whatever to delete them |
| [05:26:00] | AranC23: | but I hadn't thought of the %w... you wouldn't even need a script for that |
| [05:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no need to even delete if you use only the day of the week in the filename. :) |
| [05:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I always have 7 days of backups and my script even loads my backup into my dev database so I know my backups are good and my dev DB always has guide data, etc. |
| [05:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | more complicated that most need though, the 1 line is enoug for most and it can even be right in the crontab like you say. |
| [05:29:00] | AranC23: | I just found out today that my script was looking for mysql.txt in the wrong place (it moved sometime since I wrote it) and the content of my backups was the help output of mysqldump :) |
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| [05:33:00] | hackmeister: | I switched my mythtv box to a room with cable and reset my channel setup, now I can't change the channel or schedule a recording, any ideas? |
| [05:33:00] | hackmeister: | I'm thinking I might of corrupted my database |
| [05:34:00] | AranC23: | if all you did was clear channel settings in mythtv-setup, it seems unlikely anything would be corrupted by that |
| [05:35:00] | hackmeister: | Yeah, I cleared then re-setup for cable, new guide is there and populated correctly |
| [05:36:00] | Mrgoose: | should i choose xvid over divx |
| [05:36:00] | AranC23: | used the correct input in input connections and didn't accidentally enter something in the changer program field? |
| [05:38:00] | hackmeister: | AranC23, it looks ok, when I try to change the channel I get '0 minutes min' in the browse field |
| [05:39:00] | hackmeister: | can't change channel |
| [05:40:00] | AranC23: | what card? |
| [05:40:00] | hackmeister: | hauppauge 350 |
| [05:41:00] | AranC23: | might shut down mythbackend and try ptune.pl |
| [05:41:00] | Mrgoose: | John Paul was a P.O.P.E |
| [05:41:00] | hackmeister: | ok |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mrgoose: uhhhh ok :) |
| [05:44:00] | hackmeister: | AranC23, I can change the channel with ptune.pl, when I start mythtv it starts on the last channel I was on |
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| [05:46:00] | AranC23: | I guess I'd just clear the channel and card settings and set it all up again... I'm sure helpful huh? :) |
| [05:47:00] | hackmeister: | AranC23, at least you attempted :) |
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| [06:45:00] | xris: | Beirdo: $20 for a relatively new american oak 50 gallon wine barrel sound like a good deal? ;) |
| [06:45:00] | klpt_: | hey, does mtd run on the frontend or on the backend? |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | 1–2 years old, probably only one batch of wine through it. |
| [06:45:00] | klpt_: | that sounds pretty good to me |
| [06:46:00] | xris: | klpt_: yeah, it's a good deal. just need to figure out if I can actually USE such a barrel |
| [06:46:00] | wswanson: | anyone here at the moment using DVB? |
| [06:46:00] | xris: | 50 gallons is a LOT of cider. |
| [06:46:00] | klpt_: | yes indeedy |
| [06:46:00] | xris: | but oak aged cider is oh so good. |
| [06:46:00] | klpt_: | hmm... I wouldn't know |
| [06:46:00] | klpt_: | I'll take your word for it |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | I occasionally put toasted oak chips in my cider. adds a nice flavor. |
| [06:48:00] | wswanson: | argh, finally enough signal, but no fe_has_lock....using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0' |
| [06:48:00] | wswanson: | tuning to 105000000 Hz |
| [06:48:00] | wswanson: | video pid 0x0000, audio pid 0x0000 |
| [06:48:00] | wswanson: | status 00 | signal 685c | snr a885 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | |
| [06:49:00] | Beirdo: | xris: sounds good |
| [06:49:00] | Beirdo: | what kinda wine? |
| [06:49:00] | xris: | dunno |
| [06:49:00] | xris: | apparently they come from a winery in eastern wa that went belly up after a year. |
| [06:49:00] | Beirdo: | I assume you'd be getting it locally :) |
| [06:49:00] | xris: | one of my medieval friends got 11 of them |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | I'd need some way to attach it to my car, and it's a LONG drive (4–5 hours) |
| [06:50:00] | Beirdo: | borrow a pickup truck or a station wagon |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | but a damn good deal. most wineries sell off their old barrels (5–8 years old) for about $50. |
| [06:50:00] | Beirdo: | minivan... |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | heh |
| [06:51:00] | klpt_: | uhaul! take all 11 |
| [06:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:51:00] | Beirdo: | 50 gal, eh? |
| [06:51:00] | Beirdo: | that's a lot of booze to age :) |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | I'd love to get a 15 gallon one. |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | but 50 is a LOT |
| [06:52:00] | Beirdo: | that would be more managable |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | my blacksmith friend has a 20 gallon oak keg with a tap on it. makes the best cider in it..... |
| [06:52:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmm |
| [06:54:00] | Beirdo: | there we go, added more pictures to my gallery page |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | he forgot about a batch for a year and a half at one point. |
| [06:54:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, properly aged :) |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | figured all of the alcohol would have evaporated off, but the opposite had happened. |
| [06:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | was delicious. |
| [06:54:00] | Beirdo: | the complex flavor would be nice |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | that's the cider recipe on my website, btw. |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | I have several bottles over 3 years old now. two that are like apple brandy (too much sugar) from 2000 or 2001 that would be awesome by now. |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | I'd me inclined to get a bourbon barrel and make me some aged whiskey (after moving to New Zealand or something) |
| [06:57:00] | Beirdo: | age it for like 10 years |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | or sherry barrels :) |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | heh |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | you ever tried The Macallen? |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | Macallan? whichever. |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | aged in sherry casks. so damn good :) |
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| [06:59:00] | xris: | nope. haven't really tried all that many |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | it has a real nice finish |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | nice |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | 50 gal, eh? :) |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | that ain't gonna move for quite some time |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | yeah. too big. |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | you'd need to make supports so you can put it on its side |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | might come with, of course |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | too much effort, and not enough room in the garage. |
| [07:02:00] | Mrgoose: | hmm |
| [07:02:00] | Mrgoose: | xris |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | 15gal would be good |
| [07:02:00] | Mrgoose: | im using virtual dub to convert |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:03:00] | xris: | I think you can get a 15 gal one for around $150 new. |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | I'd want used |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | bourbon casks can only be used once for bourbon |
| [07:04:00] | Mrgoose: | hrmm |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | thank you Geckofiend! UPDATE settings SET data=1 WHERE value='ShowGroupInfo'; |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | Beirdo: ahh. well, these would be more for wine, anyway. and usually come with a tap, etc. |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | ahh, true |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | bourbon barrels are good for making scotch though. :) |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | and would give a nice flavor to cider, I bet |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | $35 on ebay |
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| [07:08:00] | Beirdo: | 35" tall, 24" diameter |
| [07:08:00] | Beirdo: | whatever that comes to in gallons |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | nice |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | and they are this year's barrels. |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [07:10:00] | Mrgoose: | how come one pass looks better than two pass? |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: two-pass isn't about the best quality, it's about the best quality in a guaranteed size range. |
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| [07:13:00] | xris: | you could do one pass at 9000kbs and it'd look way better than two pass at 30kbps |
| [07:15:00] | Mrgoose: | ok |
| [07:15:00] | Mrgoose: | so one pass at 2k is kinda low? |
| [07:17:00] | Beirdo: | just try it and see if you like it |
| [07:17:00] | Beirdo: | what's there to lose? |
| [07:17:00] | Mrgoose: | time |
| [07:17:00] | Beirdo: | so start it and go to bed |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | xris: there's some freshly used wine barrels on ebay for $25 |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | in Napa |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: lol |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | a bit further of a drive |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | but a smaller barrel :) |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | 29"x37" |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | I think that might be 50gal come to think of it |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | you should be able to fit that in your car easily |
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| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | then there's this... too bad it's in Australia :) |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . 977&rd=1 |
| [07:23:00] | xris: | that's nice |
| [07:23:00] | Beirdo: | yah |
| [07:24:00] | Beirdo: | just over 1gal though |
| [07:24:00] | Beirdo: | but nice |
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| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | 50gal of booze just boggles the mind though |
| [07:26:00] | Beirdo: | but I think you got plenty of space :) |
| [07:26:00] | Beirdo: | wonder what oak-aged mead is like? |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | if nothing else, you could use one to catch rainwater |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | or to hold compost or something :) |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | a lot of uses for a $20 barrel |
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| [07:30:00] | xris: | I have two plastic rainbarrels already. |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | and it's just so... celtic |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | and my composter should arrive on monday. :) |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | but yes. they make good landscaping if you use them correctly. |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | hey, quit being sensible |
| [07:30:00] | xris: | oak aged mead would be good if it was dry mead. |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | you can use it for all sorts of things. |
| [07:31:00] | xris: | yeah. but I can think of other good uses for $20. :) |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | you think? I guess the vanillins would work well in mead |
| [07:31:00] | xris: | plus whatever it'd cost me to fit my yakima rack onto the camry instead of the echo. |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | what, no friends with a minivan? |
| [07:32:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: go buy a minivan |
| [07:32:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [07:32:00] | kormoc: | nah, that's okay :P |
| [07:32:00] | Beirdo: | damn, was worth a try |
| [07:33:00] | Beirdo: | xris: with a few bungee cords, it might even fit in the trunk |
| [07:33:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:33:00] | xris: | trunk needs to hold the cooler, 2 corny kegs and my co2 tank |
| [07:33:00] | Beirdo: | they are just over 3ft high (standing) and 2ft in diameter |
| [07:33:00] | rpete: | anyone with a universal remote they really love? looking at logitech harmony 659 |
| [07:34:00] | Beirdo: | and not a chance in HELL you'll be able to lift a 50gal barrel |
| [07:34:00] | Beirdo: | full of booze that is |
| [07:34:00] | Beirdo: | they weigh 110lbs empty |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | and 5gal of water is 80lbs if I remember right |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | so 50 gal of water... 800lbs + 110lbs for the barrel. nigh on a tonne |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | or is my conversion wrong? |
| [07:36:00] | Beirdo: | 1L water = 1kg |
| [07:36:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I must have it wrong. |
| [07:36:00] | Beirdo: | 1gal ~= 4.5L, correct? |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | 4.5 * 50 = 225L |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | 8.3 lbs per gallon for water. |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | so 225kg for water |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | 12 lbs for honey. heh. |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | 225kg * 2.2 = 500lbs |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | or so |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | OK, my memory was bad |
| [07:38:00] | Beirdo: | either way. 400–500lbs of liquid + 110lb of oak |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | that fucker ain't going anywhere unless you have equipment to move engine blocks... and a pickup truck to put it in |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | and I think the standard barrel's actually 59 gal |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | so... :) |
| [07:40:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:40:00] | xris: | yet another reason not to get it. heh |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | hey |
| [07:40:00] | xris: | 5 full gallons is enough |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | quit talking sense :) |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | how will we ever start a winery without a barrel or two :) |
| [07:41:00] | Beirdo: | it would make a damn nice planter too |
| [07:41:00] | defaultro: | what's the most reliable working commercial flag option? I set it to ALL and it still doesn't seem to skip or jump exactly to the next scene |
| [07:42:00] | Beirdo: | cut it in half, and you have two nice planters for plants you don't want to take over your garden |
| [07:42:00] | rewster: | ok this is driving me insane, can't get any audio or change channels out of my PVR 350 |
| [07:42:00] | rpete: | defaultro, is it just on one show? |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | i couldnt recall |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | but sometimes it works but way off |
| [07:43:00] | Beirdo: | xris: I *LIKE* http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . 424&rd=1 |
| [07:43:00] | defaultro: | rpete, let say the guy is still talking, and it will skip at once |
| [07:43:00] | defaultro: | so what I do is rewind :( |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | iirc, blank is checked or enabled |
| [07:44:00] | rpete: | oh, you playback with commercials autoskip |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
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| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | i show menu and I select the 4th choice |
| [07:44:00] | rpete: | hm, never done that so there could be commercials I don't know are flagged |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | is that the proper way to do it? |
| [07:44:00] | xris: | Beirdo: nice. |
| [07:44:00] | xris: | I think I prefer clear crystal these days, though |
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| [07:45:00] | xris: | wife likes them better, too. |
| [07:45:00] | Beirdo: | there is that, but I *love* cobalt blue glass |
| [07:45:00] | Beirdo: | the glasses I have now have cobalt blue stems |
| [07:46:00] | rpete: | this reminds me of Sideways |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | xris, do all HD broadcast come with AC3 audio? |
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| [07:49:00] | Beirdo: | goooogle |
| [07:49:00] | defaultro: | :) |
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| [07:50:00] | defaultro: | ah, looks like ac3 is standard for hdtv |
| [07:50:00] | xris: | defaultro: I don't know anything about hd |
| [07:51:00] | defaultro: | it's ok |
| [07:51:00] | defaultro: | xris, have you tried compiling the latest cvs? |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | what about you Beirdo? |
| [07:52:00] | Beirdo: | have you? |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | yep but i have a question |
| [07:52:00] | Beirdo: | I last compiled a few days ago |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | specifically on mythtdvd |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | it's failing |
| [07:53:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use that |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | so you don't play dvd within myth? |
| [07:53:00] | Beirdo: | why would I? |
| [07:53:00] | Beirdo: | I have a DVD player that does a far better job |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | what do you use? |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | oh ok :) |
| [07:54:00] | Beirdo: | imagine that, someone using a DVD player to play DVDs :) |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | i think, i should just revert back to what i was doing before |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | the reason i want to do it is because i read a thread that quality will be better on htpcs |
| [07:55:00] | defaultro: | but looks the same to me |
| [07:55:00] | defaultro: | i won't waste my time then |
| [07:55:00] | Beirdo: | why would it be better using general purpose hardware than on purpose-made hardware? |
| [07:56:00] | Beirdo: | that strikes me as a crock of shit |
| [07:56:00] | rpete: | yeah, I bought a nice dvd changer a few weeks ago, it's a huge step up |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | due to the card being used |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | when is hd-dvd player out? |
| [07:56:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: that's precisely why it will be worse |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | i hope prices of those hd-dvd players will go down |
| [07:57:00] | Beirdo: | DVD players are single-purpose, and if you buy a decent one, it will be nearly impossible to get better than that. |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | and there is still a debate between media, either hddvd, blueray or hdv :9 |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [07:58:00] | xris: | plus, my dvd player has component output, my mythbox doesn't |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | component is nice |
| [07:58:00] | Beirdo: | yes, that too :) |
| [07:58:00] | xris: | the hd dvd media is still a couple of years away from standard adoption, though |
| [07:58:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ie, don't buy the $29 ZWRQIG Inc. special purchase this week at Walmart. :) |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [07:58:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | i've read hdv and it's about a size of our existing dvd but has 1.3 terabyte of space |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | japan made |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | but pricey |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | so for sure that's gonna be out |
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| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | consumer always dictates it :) |
| [07:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I've got almost enough Marriot Rewards points to get the Sony 400 DVD/CD changer for free, debating whether to get that to hook up to my projector. |
| [07:59:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | im planning to buy a projector too :0 |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:00:00] | xris: | I wonder if it's easily possible to get some recordings from my pvr-150 tomorrow... force things to record on this specific card. |
| [08:01:00] | xris: | defaultro: I hope you have a dark room |
| [08:01:00] | xris: | anyone know how to force a recording to go on a specific card? |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | yep, i do have |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | i don't know if I should sell my mitsubishi hdtv |
| [08:02:00] | xris: | defaultro: then cool. get yourself a good screen, too. makes all the difference. |
| [08:02:00] | Beirdo: | xris: the simplest way would be to use the other card for livetv then schedule a recording |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:02:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | this sucks. I'm testing a patch for that LiveTV ringbuffer bug and 3:00am rolls around and what I was watching is over and some Murad acne infomercial comes on and I've got at least 5–10 more minutes till the bug will show up. <MIXER type='VOLUME' name='MASTER' value='0'> |
| [08:02:00] | xris: | defaultro: you can send it up to me. (actually, my wife would kill me if I got a bigger tv — nowhere to put it) |
| [08:03:00] | xris: | Beirdo: setting the priority higher on my pvr-150 wouldn't work? |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | Captain Murdoch, what is this LiveTV ringbuffer bug? |
| [08:03:00] | Beirdo: | it should |
| [08:03:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris, not sure if you can force a recording unless you want to mess with priorities. |
| [08:03:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | defaultro: yeah |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | im planning of selling it at $900 |
| [08:03:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: I don't mind messing with priorities — I can just stop the slave backend if I don't want it to record (it's on my local workstation). |
| [08:03:00] | Beirdo: | you can always force a recording. make the other tuners busy :) |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | anyways, yeah, what's that bug? |
| [08:03:00] | xris: | I need to manually change channels, anyway. |
| [08:04:00] | Beirdo: | if you want to do it on an ongoing basis, priority would be your best bet |
| [08:05:00] | xris: | ok. so higher priority or lower? |
| [08:05:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you just want to test, you can go into livetv, it will use the highest cardid if you have that setting on and will prefer local tuners if possible (I think) even without the setting on. |
| [08:05:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | not sure, Bruce gave a good description of that on the mailing list recently. |
| [08:06:00] | xris: | well, unfortunately, it'll then go with local no matter what. |
| [08:06:00] | xris: | mythtv-setup says it'll go with the higher value. |
| [08:07:00] | xris: | so if I set it to 1, it should be fine. |
| [08:07:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | checkout this post, it might help. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . tion;#110359 |
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| [08:09:00] | xris: | odd, says I'm low on disk space. heh. |
| [08:10:00] | xris: | 27G free |
| [08:11:00] | xris: | ahh, so that priority setting really does nothing, then |
| [08:12:00] | xris: | and I'd have to delete/recreate my card inputs in order to make them sort properly. |
| [08:12:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | defaultro: the bug is that after the ringbuffer wraps on the backend, there can be errors at random times that cause the safe_read() error message as well as side-effects on the frontend. it's a problem on the frontend giving bad data to the backend. my fix seems to have worked. |
| [08:13:00] | xris: | oh well. I'll just set both machines to record the same thing tomorrow. heh |
| [08:15:00] | xris: | gotta say, man, the pvr-150 looks good. |
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| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | Captain, that's cool |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | so prolly, i can apply that patch too |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | im using the latest cvs to |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | too |
| [08:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm going to commit it to CVS in a few minutes. |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | what do i have to do, cvs update? |
| [08:17:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | just testing a little more. |
| [08:17:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah |
| [08:17:00] | defaultro: | bam |
| [08:17:00] | defaultro: | ;) |
| [08:17:00] | defaultro: | what about this issue |
| [08:17:00] | defaultro: | when changing channels in mythtv, sound gets losts |
| [08:17:00] | defaultro: | in livetv i mean |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | anyone here uses comcast hsi? |
| [08:18:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | don't know, probably that stream stuff, I never watch LiveTV. :) |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, im reading comcast's laws about setting up servers in your premise, they prohibit it |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | are they really strict on that? |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | they aren't laws |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | their Terms of Service |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | hey fry |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | hey :) |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | are you using comcast/ |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | i've run servers from comcast, bellsouth and a few others |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | as long as they don't know, they won't care |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | and even the ones i've seen that knew, didn't care either |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | as long as they don't notice it? |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | basically it gives em an out |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | an out? |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | what do you mean? |
| [08:20:00] | fryfrog: | you aren't allowed to have a server, so if you have one and lose money when there is an outage due to lost traffic... |
| [08:20:00] | fryfrog: | you can't blame em |
| [08:20:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | probably care more about P2P bandwidth than your mail/ssh/http server. :) |
| [08:20:00] | fryfrog: | or if you are hogging bandwidth, they find a server, they kick you off and say "hey, against tos" |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | ah ok |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | coz back in 2001, i was under AT&T that became comcast, i was running mail and http |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | tos says a lot of stuff is against their tos :) |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | most people ignore it |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | i had it for 2 years with no complaints from them |
| [08:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | cox even says no IPSEC |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | ahah |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | i'm only concered about http and mail |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | see, they put some dumb shit in there |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | bell south blocks port 25 |
| [08:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | might use the word VPN, can't remember exactly. |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | so its quite hard to do mail serving behind them |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | coz im planning to get comcast again |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | my mail server is kind busy |
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| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | coz i have about 45 emails addresses |
| [08:22:00] | fryfrog: | i just use gmail :) |
| [08:22:00] | fryfrog: | i have 50 invites still i'm never gonna use too :) |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | i separated them out coz i can't handle the load |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | just mythtv-users, we get about 100–150 a day |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | so i named it as me-on-mythtv |
| [08:23:00] | fryfrog: | christ |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | others are me-on-mssql, me-on-ethereal, me-on-metasploit and so on |
| [08:23:00] | fryfrog: | i couldnt do the myth mailing lists |
| [08:23:00] | fryfrog: | to much crap :0 |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | mythtv-users is so much |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | it's a waste |
| [08:24:00] | fryfrog: | i don't know why they don't just have a forum |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | exactly |
| [08:24:00] | fryfrog: | everyone uses it AS a forum now, search wise |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | gossamer |
| [08:24:00] | fryfrog: | why bother with forcing people to use email to reply? |
| [08:24:00] | rpete: | there's mythtvtalk.com, but it seems to lag the mailing list by a month or so :-) |
| [08:24:00] | fryfrog: | oops, potpie time! |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | Captain, how is it going? |
| [08:25:00] | fryfrog: | Would someone mind commenting on the mini-thumb navigation system at http://fryfrog.com/gallery-clean/Demo1/aad |
| [08:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | just testing. want to make sure it didn't break anything so I'm trying to jump around LiveTV a bunch then letting it run for a while, etc.. |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, look at my email to cyberestore :) |
| [08:25:00] | fryfrog: | compared with the one http://fryfrog.com/gallery-clean/Demo2/abz |
| [08:26:00] | fryfrog: | you might have to flip a few photos to see the difference |
| [08:26:00] | fryfrog: | brb |
| [08:29:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | defaultro, I see another way to fix it so I want to make sure it doesn't matter which I do. |
| [08:31:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [08:31:00] | defaultro: | so for sure, once i cvsup tomorrow, it's there? |
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| [08:37:00] | defaultro: | Aight captain, im very sleepy now |
| [08:37:00] | defaultro: | I'll talk to you later |
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| [08:45:00] | Beirdo: | bed |
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| [08:55:00] | wswanson: | anyone know where you are supposed to get the datadirect accounts for mythmovietime? |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | direct data? |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | what is mythmovietime anyway? |
| [08:56:00] | fryfrog: | is that a new module in cvs? |
| [08:56:00] | wswanson: | local movie listings in your information menu |
| [08:56:00] | wswanson: | in cvs |
| [08:56:00] | fryfrog: | ah, neat |
| [08:56:00] | wswanson: | I see that it comes from the same folks as zap2it |
| [08:56:00] | wswanson: | for the tv schedules |
| [08:56:00] | wswanson: | but it seems to use a different account |
| [08:57:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [08:58:00] | wswanson: | i really like the mini-thumb btw |
| [08:59:00] | fryfrog: | did you have a preference on which style of navigation you liked? |
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| [09:00:00] | wswanson: | ah, let me check both |
| [09:00:00] | fryfrog: | the first kept the current image centered, the second kept the same thumbs and only flipped to the next block when you got to the last one |
| [09:00:00] | fryfrog: | er, i may be wrong about which was first/second :) |
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| [09:02:00] | wswanson: | ah, i like it to keep the active photo centered in the thumbs best |
| [09:02:00] | fryfrog: | thanks :) |
| [09:02:00] | wswanson: | definately. |
| [09:02:00] | wswanson: | :) |
| [09:02:00] | fryfrog: | so far that seems to be the most popular |
| [09:02:00] | wswanson: | good stuff-- i would definately use the thumb deal — been using gallery for years |
| [09:03:00] | fryfrog: | i'm hoping it gets into 1.5.1 :) |
| [09:03:00] | fryfrog: | everything is done in a G1 way |
| [09:03:00] | fryfrog: | it adds options to the config wizard and to each album property |
| [09:03:00] | wswanson: | i hope so too — i'd like to use it. ;) |
| [09:03:00] | fryfrog: | if you'd like to see the options, you can log in as "demo / demo" :) |
| [09:04:00] | fryfrog: | i'm excited about it, i suck at programming so it took me quite a while to get this going :) |
| [09:04:00] | wswanson: | this seems weird behaviour... |
| [09:04:00] | wswanson: | if at http://fryfrog.com/gallery-clean/Demo2/abz |
| [09:04:00] | wswanson: | and click thumb to right of active thumb |
| [09:04:00] | wswanson: | all thumbs change and 3 thumbs show up |
| [09:05:00] | fryfrog: | i don't see what you mean? |
| [09:05:00] | wswanson: | ah, guess it doesn't matter — because i like the centering best anyway. ;-) and it doesn't seem to do it |
| [09:05:00] | fryfrog: | the one you just showed me was the centering one |
| [09:05:00] | wswanson: | sorry, wrong link. http://fryfrog.com/gallery-clean/Demo2/abz |
| [09:06:00] | wswanson: | ug |
| [09:06:00] | wswanson: | my copy and paste isn't working. |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | hahah |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | Demo1? |
| [09:06:00] | wswanson: | go to 1/aad |
| [09:06:00] | wswanson: | then click on far right thumb |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | ah, yeah you only see 3 |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | thats cause there are like 18 images and the blocks are in groups of 5 |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | (for example |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | let me show you the other way that can look |
| [09:06:00] | fryfrog: | its 1 line of code |
| [09:07:00] | wswanson: | [using synergy between windows and linux — sometimes after giving someone a quick unreal ass-kicking, my copy & paste only works from linux, but not to it... oh well. |
| [09:07:00] | fryfrog: | refresh |
| [09:07:00] | wswanson: | I see.. maybe if it made it obvious that -> to the right of here is next album |
| [09:07:00] | wswanson: | but i see your point |
| [09:08:00] | fryfrog: | ah you mean some how show that the first/last is the link to the next block of images? |
| [09:08:00] | fryfrog: | instead of it just looking like another image? |
| [09:08:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery-clean/Demo1/aad |
| [09:08:00] | fryfrog: | go there and then click one back |
| [09:08:00] | fryfrog: | thats why i don't like THAT method |
| [09:08:00] | fryfrog: | see how it shifts all the thumbs over 1 instead of flipping to a whole nother block? |
| [09:09:00] | wswanson: | ya. definately like centered best — but moving to next album marker could still apply |
| [09:09:00] | wswanson: | better run — before my wife kills me |
| [09:09:00] | fryfrog: | see ya :) |
| [09:09:00] | wswanson: | :) good stuff. take care |
| [09:09:00] | fryfrog: | thanks for feedback |
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| [09:34:00] | jonw: | mornig |
| [09:39:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | what card? |
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| [10:04:00] | metusine: | heh |
| [10:04:00] | metusine: | would have to be an aussy with a nick like that |
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| [10:12:00] | fryfrog: | anyone have any weird stability issues with mythtv? |
| [10:12:00] | fryfrog: | crashing, garbled sound/video :/ |
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| [10:48:00] | prodigy7: | good morning |
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| [11:16:00] | fryfrog: | ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Bad file descriptor |
| [11:16:00] | fryfrog: | i'm getting that while generating thumbs for mythweb :/ |
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| [11:30:00] | JoeyLemur: | I've got a PVR-350 and I'm running on Fedora Core 3, trying to following the instructions on www.wilsonet.com. I have video coming in and back out to the TV, but there's garbage covering the tv output... |
| [11:30:00] | JoeyLemur: | Horizontal lines of multicolored static. |
| [11:32:00] | metusine: | does anyone have built in lirc going? |
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| [11:40:00] | jonw: | hi all, anyone know where to get old versions of the technotrend firmware ? (or can I use the new one – 2.17g?) |
| [11:57:00] | jonw: | is this a bad time of day ? lol |
| [11:58:00] | stoffel_: | probably too early for the US |
| [11:58:00] | JoeyLemur: | Just a bit. 6am Central, and I really should be going to bed... |
| [11:59:00] | jonw: | ahh, ok damn timezones ! |
| [12:00:00] | ** JoeyLemur now has X11 on his TV, and notes that its hideously overscanned. ** | |
| [12:01:00] | jonw: | ok last try ... then I cry |
| [12:02:00] | ** jonw sobs inconsolably ** | |
| [12:03:00] | jonw: | all i need is firmware – can I find it – can I **** ! |
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| [12:50:00] | Der_Ollie_: | http://phpfi.com/57195 |
| [12:50:00] | jonr_: | What is the slowest system that could support just playback of recorded video? |
| [12:50:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Any clues whats going wrong here ? |
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| [13:01:00] | stoffel: | Der_Ollie_: see the -users and -dev lists for fixes |
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| [13:07:00] | Der_Ollie_: | I have neither access to the -users nor to the dev lists. |
| [13:10:00] | stoffel: | there are public archives available |
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| [13:12:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Then take google, search for the error string and you will find nothing... |
| [13:12:00] | Der_Ollie_: | http://www.google.com/search?q=[sub-mythmusic . . . amp;oe=UTF-8 |
| [13:13:00] | stoffel: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo on the bottom |
| [13:15:00] | jonw: | omg, i'm gonna shoot myself soon – can anyone point me in the right direction to solve a firmware issue re hauppague/technotrend nova device please ? |
| [13:15:00] | Der_Ollie_: | I have to read that all ? You're joking. |
| [13:17:00] | stoffel: | Klick here, klick here, klick here -> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/ <- |
| [13:18:00] | jonw: | thanks, have trawled through that and now understand more but there doesn't seem to be ANY copies of the versions of the driver it suggests using _anywhere_ |
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| [13:18:00] | hvdkooij: | Hi |
| [13:19:00] | hvdkooij: | Is anyone using a DVB-C card with MythTV? |
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| [13:26:00] | jonw: | i've been using linux for about 8 years now, as a sysadmin – and getting these devices to work is a complete joke |
| [13:26:00] | jonw: | i think i'm gonna blow the damn thing away and install windows |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | have fun |
| [13:28:00] | jonw: | that still requires not having kernel: tda1004x: firmware upload complete | kernel: tda1004x: DSP failed to initialsed. |
| [13:28:00] | Der_Ollie_: | There is obvoiusly no solution for the mainvisual.h errors. |
| [13:29:00] | laga: | Der_Ollie_: that's what you get for going with CVS |
| [13:29:00] | laga: | Der_Ollie_: file a bugreport |
| [13:29:00] | stoffel: | you obviously missed it, Der_Ollie_ |
| [13:29:00] | Der_Ollie_: | What did it missed ? |
| [13:29:00] | Der_Ollie_: | -ed |
| [13:29:00] | stoffel: | line 65, change public Visual to public MythTV::Visual |
| [13:30:00] | Der_Ollie_: | They changed a variable ? |
| [13:30:00] | stoffel: | after changing /usr/local/include/mythtv/output.h |
| [13:31:00] | stoffel: | in output.h change #include <visual.h> to #include <mythtv/visual.h> |
| [13:31:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Try it by yourself. |
| [13:32:00] | stoffel: | i did and mythmusic compiled fine |
| [13:32:00] | stoffel: | didn't use it yet |
| [13:32:00] | stoffel: | though |
| [13:32:00] | Der_Ollie_: | #include <qptrlist.h> |
| [13:32:00] | Der_Ollie_: | #include <mythtv/visual.h> |
| [13:33:00] | Der_Ollie_: | It's already changed. |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | ININn hj mhmm hmit yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | it yet |
| [13:35:00] | stoffel: | ? what happened ;) |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | doh, my kid loveds that cut n paster |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:35:00] | stoffel: | hehe |
| [13:35:00] | Der_Ollie_: | /usr/local/include/mythtv/visual.h |
| [13:36:00] | Der_Ollie_: | You have it at the same location ? |
| [13:37:00] | stoffel: | sure |
| [13:37:00] | Der_Ollie_: | You have the mythtv-Main-Programm from the CVS yesterday ? |
| [13:38:00] | stoffel: | did you ran make distclean after the changes? |
| [13:40:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Sure. |
| [13:40:00] | Der_Ollie_: | But especially for you, I will do it again. |
| [13:40:00] | Der_Ollie_: | All occuring problems so far were already problems with path-adaptions. |
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| [13:53:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Same error again, stoffel. |
| [13:53:00] | Der_Ollie_: | 4071 Jan 26 07:01 mainvisual.h |
| [13:54:00] | Der_Ollie_: | md5sum mainvisual.h |
| [13:54:00] | Der_Ollie_: | 6672642dd40df2aecdf1a03d93c9904d mainvisual.h |
| [13:56:00] | jonw: | right well i've officially given up on a linux based mmedia box. oh well. see you around & thanks for the help. |
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| [14:00:00] | stoffel: | Der_Ollie_: any old mythtv header files in /usr/include around? |
| [14:01:00] | stoffel: | and line 65 of mythmusic/mythmusic/mainvisual.h looks like this: class MainVisual : public QWidget, public MythTV::Visual ? |
| [14:05:00] | Der_Ollie_: | With a ? at the eol ? |
| [14:05:00] | Der_Ollie_: | end of line ? |
| [14:05:00] | Der_Ollie_: | That differs from my cvs-checkout |
| [14:06:00] | stoffel: | of course not |
| [14:07:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Curious... I didn't change anything manually there. |
| [14:09:00] | Der_Ollie_: | So your version of mainvisual.h and mine should be different. |
| [14:09:00] | stoffel: | so you didn't: 14:29 stoffel+> line 65, change public Visual to public MythTV::Visual |
| [14:10:00] | Der_Ollie_: | So I did not, because I first changed the include-Path. |
| [14:10:00] | Der_Ollie_: | It is CVS. |
| [14:11:00] | Der_Ollie_: | We have to live with it. |
| [14:12:00] | Der_Ollie_: | But okay, thanks a lot, this was it. |
| [14:12:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Just a simple Myth. |
| [14:13:00] | tstm: | Hmm.. does anyone know if the newest CVS works with DVB TS mode at all? |
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| [14:52:00] | Der_Ollie_: | Weils bei stable tarballs nix zu raten gibt. |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | Der_Ollie_: wrong window ;) |
| [14:53:00] | Der_Ollie_: | I see. |
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| [16:04:00] | LinuxMafia: | hello |
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| [16:13:00] | jvs: | good afternoon |
| [16:13:00] | birmaan: | afternoon |
| [16:13:00] | jvs: | I got 0.17 running fine |
| [16:14:00] | jvs: | but live tv still hangs every 3 seconds, and the picture is lagging behind the sound |
| [16:14:00] | birmaan: | jvs,just discovered mythtv so...can really help you out |
| [16:15:00] | birmaan: | But like what Iam reading |
| [16:15:00] | jvs: | hehe, yeah its cool |
| [16:16:00] | jvs: | I couldnt get 0.16 working, but 0.17 works |
| [16:16:00] | birmaan: | aha |
| [16:16:00] | birmaan: | jvs,and what kind of os do you use? |
| [16:17:00] | jvs: | gentoo linux |
| [16:18:00] | birmaan: | Thats nice |
| [16:18:00] | jvs: | you? |
| [16:18:00] | birmaan: | Want to get started with GEntoo to |
| [16:18:00] | birmaan: | suse |
| [16:19:00] | jvs: | nice |
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| [16:22:00] | captmiddy: | jvs: what video card, tv card...? |
| [16:22:00] | birmaan: | is away |
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| [16:22:00] | birmaan: | oeps |
| [16:22:00] | birmaan: | sorry |
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| [16:27:00] | LinuxMafia: | hello |
| [16:28:00] | LinuxMafia: | i deleted mythsetup default , can i get back to them? |
| [16:28:00] | LinuxMafia: | jvs: You there |
| [16:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | can any one tell me port numbers in general setup ? |
| [16:37:00] | jvs: | yeah |
| [16:37:00] | jvs: | sorry |
| [16:37:00] | jvs: | pctv stereo |
| [16:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | jvs: can You plz tell me |
| [16:38:00] | jvs: | 866Mhz, 512MB RAM |
| [16:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | the ports numbers |
| [16:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | in general setup |
| [16:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | i erased them accidently |
| [16:38:00] | jvs: | one moment |
| [16:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | ok thanks |
| [16:38:00] | jvs: | captmiddy: sorry, been in the kitchen |
| [16:39:00] | jvs: | server port? |
| [16:39:00] | jvs: | 6543 |
| [16:39:00] | LinuxMafia: | por server runs on , port the server shows staus on |
| [16:39:00] | LinuxMafia: | and the other one |
| [16:39:00] | jvs: | status: 6544 |
| [16:40:00] | jvs: | but I guess you could set whatever you want |
| [16:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | thansk |
| [16:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | alot |
| [16:40:00] | jvs: | np |
| [16:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | how about the master one? |
| [16:42:00] | jvs: | 6543 |
| [16:42:00] | jvs: | the backend says I should check the "four software encoder settings" |
| [16:42:00] | jvs: | well I did |
| [16:43:00] | LinuxMafia: | thansk so much |
| [16:43:00] | jvs: | np |
| [16:43:00] | LinuxMafia: | thanks so much due |
| [16:43:00] | LinuxMafia: | dude* |
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| [16:43:00] | jvs: | is a PIII 866 to slow for live tv? (backend and frontend) |
| [16:47:00] | laga: | which card? |
| [16:47:00] | jvs: | pctv stereo |
| [16:47:00] | laga: | i'd say it's too slow. i'm currently tinkering with a bttv card. |
| [16:47:00] | laga: | i cant give you any information yet since my box just froze |
| [16:48:00] | jvs: | hmm, I thought it might be too slow for recording, but not for livetv |
| [16:48:00] | jvs: | damnit |
| [16:48:00] | laga: | livetv records and plays the recording back at the same time |
| [16:48:00] | laga: | thus, it eats even more cpu |
| [16:48:00] | jvs: | watching tv using tvtime works just amazingly fine |
| [16:49:00] | jvs: | oooohhh |
| [16:49:00] | laga: | yeah. |
| [16:49:00] | jvs: | no |
| [16:49:00] | jvs: | I meant smthg different |
| [16:49:00] | jvs: | I cant even watch tv |
| [16:49:00] | captmiddy: | jvs you may want to look into using a pvr based card like the pvr250 or even a 500 |
| [16:49:00] | captmiddy: | if you want to keep using the 866, but even then you may be a little slow due to decoding |
| [16:50:00] | jvs: | I thought livetv was the term for plain watching |
| [16:50:00] | captmiddy: | a 350 would be your best bet though |
| [16:50:00] | captmiddy: | no |
| [16:50:00] | captmiddy: | it still encodes then decodes |
| [16:50:00] | captmiddy: | to allow for pausing and rewind |
| [16:50:00] | jvs: | hmm |
| [16:50:00] | jvs: | I thought this would be a problem |
| [16:51:00] | jvs: | but now I cannot even just watch tv |
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| [16:51:00] | jvs: | it works using other tvprograms though |
| [16:51:00] | captmiddy: | right |
| [16:51:00] | captmiddy: | because they don't encode a roll back buffer |
| [16:51:00] | jvs: | oh, and mythtv does? |
| [16:52:00] | captmiddy: | which is why a pvr 250 would work because it has hardware encoding so you only have to decode in software |
| [16:52:00] | jvs: | even if I do not need it? |
| [16:52:00] | captmiddy: | ys |
| [16:52:00] | captmiddy: | yes |
| [16:52:00] | jvs: | oh, I didnt know that |
| [16:52:00] | captmiddy: | it is designed to act similar to a Windows MCE or TiVo like device |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | you can add tvtime to the menu. |
| [16:52:00] | captmiddy: | there is that option |
| [16:53:00] | jvs: | I know, but I thought I could "just" watch tv too |
| [16:53:00] | captmiddy: | not on a slow machine without any hardware assistance either at encode or decode |
| [16:53:00] | jvs: | hmm, getting a pvr card is the best solution anyway |
| [16:53:00] | captmiddy: | yup |
| [16:53:00] | jvs: | would also solve my remote probs |
| [16:53:00] | captmiddy: | yup |
| [16:53:00] | captmiddy: | and you can get them for under $100 |
| [16:53:00] | jvs: | could someone then explain the difference between a pvr 150 and 250? |
| [16:54:00] | captmiddy: | not familiar with the 150, only the 250, 350 and 500 |
| [16:54:00] | captmiddy: | I have 2 250s |
| [16:54:00] | captmiddy: | and the 500 is like 2 250s in one card |
| [16:55:00] | captmiddy: | the 350 is a 250 with hardware decode and tv out, as well as an fm tuner |
| [16:55:00] | birmaan: | 350 cost $199... |
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| [16:55:00] | jvs: | hmm a 250 costs 167 Euros here |
| [16:55:00] | captmiddy: | look around online |
| [16:55:00] | captmiddy: | there are cheaper prices for it |
| [16:55:00] | jvs: | a 150 only 86? |
| [16:55:00] | captmiddy: | just not familiar with the 150 |
| [16:56:00] | captmiddy: | looks like the 150 has a nicer remote |
| [16:56:00] | jvs: | I have checked their website |
| [16:57:00] | jvs: | and all the descriptions are the same :) |
| [16:58:00] | captmiddy: | looks like it is just missing the videocd encoder in hardware |
| [16:58:00] | captmiddy: | if you look at the compare products button |
| [16:58:00] | captmiddy: | but make sure that it works with linux |
| [16:58:00] | rewster: | I think the 150 is only now getting support in ivtv |
| [16:59:00] | jvs: | I doNew low cost design. Same video quality as the WinTV-PVR-250 at a lower cost. |
| [16:59:00] | jvs: | -I do |
| [16:59:00] | jvs: | but its half the price |
| [17:04:00] | jvs: | and when I would need DVB I could get a cheap soft. card and put it infront of the pvr150 |
| [17:04:00] | jvs: | still cheaper |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | jvs: you're BTW always welcome to join #mythtv-de := |
| [17:05:00] | jvs: | coming |
| [17:05:00] | jvs: | Im getting a pvr150 |
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| [17:13:00] | AndyCap: | Hmm, is there any easy way to make mythweb read only? |
| [17:17:00] | opello: | i was wondering about that, and what it'd take to get the 'backend status' working |
| [17:18:00] | AndyCap: | Mm, a new idea popped into my mind. Mythguest, allowed to do most, but not edit my recording and all recordings added will have a lower priority than mine. :-P |
| [17:18:00] | AndyCap: | opello: doesn't backend status work for you? |
| [17:19:00] | opello: | no, a php error that i've not looked into much yet |
| [17:19:00] | AndyCap: | ok |
| [17:20:00] | ** AndyCap was lazy and installed mythtv packaged by atrpms, mythweb worked out of the box ** | |
| [17:20:00] | AndyCap: | and it's very nice. thank you! :) |
| [17:20:00] | opello: | heh |
| [17:20:00] | opello: | i emerged it :) |
| [17:21:00] | LinuxMafia: | any one can help me |
| [17:22:00] | LinuxMafia: | i can not make this mythtv to work |
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| [17:25:00] | LinuxMafia: | WB Spida |
| [17:25:00] | LinuxMafia: | Spida: DID You get mythtv working? |
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| [17:28:00] | zamboni: | hello Berio & co |
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| [17:29:00] | zamboni: | say Beiro: tried out your nuv2avi tool but it complains about not enough memory |
| [17:29:00] | zamboni: | and wont run |
| [17:29:00] | zamboni: | and since it build I assume configure & friends knows what it needs |
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| [17:29:00] | LinuxMafia: | any one can help me |
| [17:30:00] | zamboni: | make me an offer I can t refuse |
| [17:30:00] | zamboni: | lol |
| [17:30:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: mythfilldatabase fails |
| [17:30:00] | zamboni: | hmm |
| [17:31:00] | zamboni: | error message? |
| [17:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: i have an acount on zap2it |
| [17:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: yes |
| [17:31:00] | zamboni: | what is th eerror message |
| [17:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [17:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | Authorization failed. |
| [17:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | Grab complete. Actual data from Grabbing XMLTV data using |
| [17:31:00] | zamboni: | small only not big pastes |
| [17:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | ok |
| [17:32:00] | zamboni: | a ceretain amount of the Auth Fails is okay..are yu paitent enough for a 5 or 10 minute wait? |
| [17:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | i have an account , and i entered my accoutn info in video input of mythsetup section |
| [17:32:00] | zamboni: | when you launch mythfill |
| [17:32:00] | zamboni: | yes |
| [17:33:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: yes |
| [17:33:00] | zamboni: | so it loops with the error message? |
| [17:33:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: yes |
| [17:33:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: and i can not start mythtv , it says server backend ip error |
| [17:33:00] | zamboni: | check your lgin info? |
| [17:34:00] | zamboni: | and general config |
| [17:34:00] | AndyCap: | opello: ah, seems creating a user in mysql with only select privilege on mythconverg works ok |
| [17:34:00] | zamboni: | sounds like you may have a boobo in either he IP setup |
| [17:34:00] | zamboni: | or name |
| [17:35:00] | AndyCap: | Assuming mythweb doesn't do anything funny outside mysql. |
| [17:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: in generalsetup i have 127.0.0.1 |
| [17:36:00] | zamboni: | hmmm |
| [17:36:00] | opello: | AndyCap: ah |
| [17:36:00] | zamboni: | whats in you r hosts.allow file? |
| [17:36:00] | opello: | AndyCap: then how do you make changes though? |
| [17:36:00] | AndyCap: | opello: oops, seems it still can delete recordings. |
| [17:36:00] | zamboni: | /etc/hosts.allow |
| [17:36:00] | AndyCap: | opello: you don't |
| [17:36:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: and in mythsetup where i have to put my account info ? only in video sources right? |
| [17:36:00] | AndyCap: | opello: that was the point of having it read only for me. :P |
| [17:37:00] | zamboni: | umm yeah |
| [17:37:00] | opello: | AndyCap: ah :) i guess you could write something based on the user they logged in with in php to draw some of the controls |
| [17:37:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: i dont have host.allow |
| [17:37:00] | zamboni: | Im surprized that mythfilldatabase doesent run |
| [17:37:00] | zamboni: | in /etc |
| [17:37:00] | zamboni: | ?? |
| [17:38:00] | zamboni: | ls /etc/host* |
| [17:39:00] | AndyCap: | opello: that would be a better solution. I was just looking for a quick hack to show it to my friends |
| [17:39:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: host.conf hostname hosts |
| [17:39:00] | opello: | AndyCap: i just asked that they not muck with it :) |
| [17:39:00] | zamboni: | which distro? |
| [17:39:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: gentoo |
| [17:39:00] | AndyCap: | opello: Well, if I ask some of them will. :P |
| [17:39:00] | zamboni: | hmmm |
| [17:40:00] | opello: | heh |
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| [17:41:00] | AndyCap: | I guess I should get a better understanding of the actual mythtv protocols before I declare it safe. :) |
| [17:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: no idea? |
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| [17:45:00] | zamboni: | LinuxMafia so you say you have no /etc/hosts.allow file |
| [17:45:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes |
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| [17:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: and i dont know what the hell this server backend ip error omes from |
| [17:46:00] | zamboni: | LinuxMafia: have you looked here? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [17:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | comes* |
| [17:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: yes |
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| [17:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: i am setting up this mythtv almost from yesteray |
| [17:47:00] | zamboni: | often network access even to localhost will read the access files in /etc |
| [17:47:00] | jemarcks: | Has anybody built a mythtv box with a Silverstone case? |
| [17:48:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: i put the id and pass in mythtsetup |
| [17:49:00] | zamboni: | yes |
| [17:49:00] | zamboni: | thats where it goes |
| [17:49:00] | zamboni: | and you are sure that your login is good? |
| [17:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: yes |
| [17:50:00] | zamboni: | ie you can login at labs.zap2it.com |
| [17:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | i cna login in site right now |
| [17:51:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: do You want me to give You my id and pass |
| [17:51:00] | zamboni: | the exact address as above? |
| [17:51:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: and You try it? |
| [17:51:00] | zamboni: | no |
| [17:52:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: yes i am ther |
| [17:52:00] | LinuxMafia: | e |
| [17:53:00] | LinuxMafia: | Welcome linuxmafia Status: Active |
| [17:53:00] | zamboni: | http://www.zap2it.com/ and labs.zap2it.com are not the same login |
| [17:53:00] | zamboni: | just fyi |
| [17:53:00] | zamboni: | so success? |
| [17:53:00] | zamboni: | good |
| [17:53:00] | LinuxMafia: | Subscription Expires: 2005/07/09 |
| [17:54:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes |
| [17:54:00] | zamboni: | what was it? |
| [17:54:00] | zamboni: | as for the back end not starting up....? |
| [17:54:00] | LinuxMafia: | nothing |
| [17:54:00] | LinuxMafia: | when i go out |
| [17:55:00] | LinuxMafia: | and come back to mythsetup , i dont see my id and pass |
| [17:56:00] | zamboni: | then youre not making it to the finish button and i isnt saving th edata |
| [17:57:00] | LinuxMafia: | it does not have finish |
| [17:57:00] | zamboni: | yippie! nuvexport works! |
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| [17:57:00] | zamboni: | hmm |
| [17:57:00] | LinuxMafia: | sorry |
| [17:57:00] | LinuxMafia: | it has |
| [17:57:00] | zamboni: | ahhha |
| [17:57:00] | LinuxMafia: | and i do make it |
| [17:57:00] | zamboni: | hmmm |
| [17:57:00] | zamboni: | oddd |
| [17:58:00] | LinuxMafia: | it foudn my lineup |
| [17:58:00] | zamboni: | oh well sunshine beckons |
| [17:58:00] | LinuxMafia: | Rogers Cable Inc |
| [17:58:00] | zamboni: | goodluck Linuxmafia! |
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| [17:58:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni, thanks |
| [18:05:00] | monrad: | how do i change the joystick type of xmame in mythgame? |
| [18:05:00] | LinuxMafia: | monrad: wow You got that far , i can not even run mythtv |
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| [18:16:00] | Gorillapond: | MythTV says the correct time, but the program guide an one hour ahead. It also seems the offset in mythsetup does nothing. Suggestions? |
| [18:17:00] | LinuxMafia: | Gorillapond: can You help me? |
| [18:17:00] | stoffel: | reading the -users mailing list starting about two weeks ago, Gorillapond |
| [18:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | stoffel: hi |
| [18:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | i need help adly |
| [18:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | badly* |
| [18:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | i cam confiused |
| [18:19:00] | Gorillapond: | stoffel: Do you recall the subject line? or even a word or two? |
| [18:19:00] | Gorillapond: | "Daylight savings time", I'm guesing |
| [18:19:00] | LinuxMafia: | LouGh OuT LauD |
| [18:20:00] | LinuxMafia: | when i start mythtv i get error |
| [18:20:00] | stoffel: | look for daylight savings time. yeah, right ;) also qt 3.3.4 seems to affect this, a fix is in cvs afair |
| [18:21:00] | klafka: | hey i'm lookin for some personal opinion, do most in the community feel that the pvr-150 in both overall integration (lirc etc...) and driver support (ivtv) is pretty unstable and not really recommended? |
| [18:21:00] | stoffel: | Gorillapond: did you upgrade the qt libs lately? |
| [18:21:00] | Gorillapond: | I followed the MythTV howto |
| [18:21:00] | Gorillapond: | for FC3. |
| [18:22:00] | Gorillapond: | About 2–3 weeks ago. |
| [18:22:00] | Gorillapond: | I havent upgraded anything since. |
| [18:23:00] | LinuxMafia: | all : i am corrently running mythbackend , and ip of backent server is set to 127.0.0.1 , when i run mythtv i get error , "can not connect backend server, is it runng , is the ip correct?" any idea? |
| [18:23:00] | Gorillapond: | LinuxMafia: Is your backend setup, is your database created and mysql started? |
| [18:23:00] | LinuxMafia: | Gorillapond: yes |
| [18:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | Gorillapond: i just runned mythfill |
| [18:24:00] | Gorillapond: | I had an issue trying to solve my timezone issue where backend said it started, but must have died right after |
| [18:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | Gorillapond: and mysql is running too |
| [18:25:00] | LinuxMafia: | * WARNING: "mysql" has already been started. |
| [18:26:00] | Gorillapond: | You dumped the mythtv sql file into mysql? |
| [18:26:00] | Gorillapond: | I really dont know enough to solve anything exotic. |
| [18:26:00] | Gorillapond: | Seeing as I can barely get my timezone business fixed. |
| [18:27:00] | LinuxMafia: | humm i did follow this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [18:28:00] | Gorillapond: | You start mysql, set your root password (for security), dump the mythtv database into mysql, run mythsetup, set it up, then run mythfilldatabase. |
| [18:29:00] | LinuxMafia: | yees |
| [18:29:00] | LinuxMafia: | exactly |
| [18:29:00] | Gorillapond: | I have no idea. :( |
| [18:29:00] | LinuxMafia: | You know what i do it again |
| [18:29:00] | LinuxMafia: | but You know |
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| [18:30:00] | LinuxMafia: | mythfill gived me error if i quit the mythsetup |
| [18:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | i should reboot and see what will hapen |
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| [18:39:00] | Flikker: | I know this isn't myth specific but does anyone know what 88:88 alternating with 8 on my DCT6200 series STB means? |
| [18:41:00] | Gorillapond: | Looks like the newest mythtv for FC3 on ATrpms says: Includes Qt 3.3.4 time change patch |
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| [18:41:00] | Gorillapond: | So my question would be, since a dist-upgrade is going to upgrade a bunch of stuff, would it be wise to stop the software being upgraded? |
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| [18:46:00] | Gorillapond: | and another, should I erase all my channel info and rebuild it? |
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| [18:52:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
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| [18:57:00] | StringBlade: | hello MrGoose |
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| [19:01:00] | StringBlade: | how do I get the version of Apache I'm running? It's at least Apache 2 |
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| [19:02:00] | xris: | StringBlade: using an rpm-based distro? |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | if your server is public, you could always run it through netcraft |
| [19:04:00] | StringBlade: | no |
| [19:04:00] | StringBlade: | I'm pretty sure I built it myself |
| [19:04:00] | StringBlade: | but I got rid of the source tarball |
| [19:04:00] | StringBlade: | :/ |
| [19:05:00] | StringBlade: | in an effort to free up some space |
| [19:05:00] | jams: | httpd2 -v or httpd -v |
| [19:05:00] | jams: | StringBlade, that's for you |
| [19:06:00] | ** xris found a bug in mythweb. blech. ** | |
| [19:06:00] | StringBlade: | what but is that? |
| [19:07:00] | StringBlade: | jams: thanks |
| [19:07:00] | jams: | it will tell you the verion of apache you are running |
| [19:07:00] | StringBlade: | ok, now I can ask my real question :) |
| [19:07:00] | StringBlade: | I'm getting a 500 error with mythWeb |
| [19:07:00] | StringBlade: | using Apache 2.0.53 |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | StringBlade: what's the error log say? |
| [19:07:00] | StringBlade: | php_value |
| [19:07:00] | StringBlade: | unknown |
| [19:08:00] | Gorillapond: | Answer to my second question: Yes, I needed to erase/refill my program data to correct the timing issue |
| [19:08:00] | StringBlade: | [Sat Apr 09 14:06:28 2005] [alert] [client 127.0.0.1] /usr/local/html/mythWeb/.htaccess: Invalid command 'php_value', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
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| [19:08:00] | LinuxMafia: | hi |
| [19:08:00] | StringBlade: | that's really the only thing in the logs |
| [19:08:00] | LinuxMafia: | any one cna help me |
| [19:08:00] | StringBlade: | it was complaining about favicon.ico too, but I created one to shut it up |
| [19:08:00] | LinuxMafia: | can * |
| [19:09:00] | StringBlade: | linuxMafia: what's the question? |
| [19:09:00] | LinuxMafia: | i get warning when i want to start backend server |
| [19:09:00] | StringBlade: | what's the message? |
| [19:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | root is not in the audio group |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | StringBlade: do you have mod_php installed? |
| [19:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | insufficient permissions discovered |
| [19:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | mythbackend may not start correctly |
| [19:10:00] | StringBlade: | xris: I think so, I've got an /etc/php.d and /etc/php.ini and several php options turned on in the httpd.conf file |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | I guess the new instructions for the .htaccess came after .17... basically, you can comment those things out from .htaccess if you set them manually in php.ini |
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| [19:11:00] | xris: | I'm wondering if maybe you didn't compile in php support, though. php_value should work fine with apache2 |
| [19:12:00] | StringBlade: | eh, I guess I'll have to grab it again and re-build |
| [19:12:00] | StringBlade: | or finde the original source |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | StringBlade: no packages available for your distro? |
| [19:13:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: are you following any particular guide to set up myth? the Myth instructions? Jarod Wison's guide? You seem to have some interesting arragements of groups and permissions that I can't even begin to imagine. |
| [19:14:00] | StringBlade: | xris: I'm sure there are |
| [19:14:00] | StringBlade: | but everything else has been compiled manually |
| [19:14:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: yes the gentoo one |
| [19:14:00] | StringBlade: | for my 2.6.11 kernel |
| [19:14:00] | LinuxMafia: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#MySQL |
| [19:14:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: I'm running FC3 and followed (somewhat) Jarod's guide...I"m not familar at all with Gentoo :( |
| [19:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: ok i did work out that waring |
| [19:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: now i have to run mythfrontend |
| [19:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | ? |
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| [19:16:00] | StringBlade: | xris et. al: another side question: I keep getting "Running LogClean" every few minutes though I'm sure I set the log cleaning to a MUCH less frequent value, anything I can do short of turning it off completely? |
| [19:17:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: oh it gives me error , about backend server error |
| [19:17:00] | StringBlade: | linuxMafia: if this is your first time running it, and you've got the backend up and the mySQL database set up, then you need to run mythtv-setup (or mythtvsetup) to configure your tuner and video source |
| [19:17:00] | StringBlade: | then do a mythfilldatabase before running the frontend |
| [19:17:00] | StringBlade: | but that should all be in your guide |
| [19:17:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: ok i did that be4 , i am doing it again |
| [19:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: server ip is 127.0.0.1 is that right? |
| [19:18:00] | StringBlade: | xris: hmm, perhaps I did install apache via rpm |
| [19:19:00] | StringBlade: | linuxmafia: if you're running the frontend and backend on the same machine, yes |
| [19:19:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes i do |
| [19:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | i hope it work |
| [19:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | i am on it almost 2 days |
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| [19:27:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: better grow some more patience...I've been playing with this for nearly a month and while I got it functioning within a week, it's far from what I would consider complete (from a personalized/customized perspective) |
| [19:27:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [19:27:00] | StringBlade: | make sure to search through the mailing lists at Gossamer-threads.com too, those have a LOT of useful information |
| [19:29:00] | StringBlade: | while it's nice to ask people in a channel like this, they get very tired of giving the same information over and over. I try not to ask questions here that I can find in the mailing lists. |
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| [19:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: thanks for info |
| [19:33:00] | StringBlade: | np |
| [19:33:00] | StringBlade: | xris: assuming I don't have PHP installed, can I install it post-installation of Apache, or do I have to rebuild Apache as well? |
| [19:34:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: can You give me the url for mailing lists |
| [19:34:00] | StringBlade: | http://www.gossamer-threads/lists/mythtv |
| [19:34:00] | StringBlade: | hmm |
| [19:34:00] | LinuxMafia: | thanks alot |
| [19:34:00] | StringBlade: | let's try that again |
| [19:35:00] | StringBlade: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv |
| [19:35:00] | StringBlade: | that's better |
| [19:35:00] | xris: | StringBlade: no clue, there. Should be fine after the fact. But if you're using an rpm-based distro, why not just install rpm's? It's so much easier to deal with. |
| [19:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | thanks |
| [19:36:00] | StringBlade: | xris: as it turns out I found the source |
| [19:36:00] | StringBlade: | I know I built it myself |
| [19:36:00] | xris: | ok. but again, why not rpm? |
| [19:36:00] | StringBlade: | apt-get tells me httpd is at the latest version |
| [19:36:00] | StringBlade: | so I probably have 2 installations of apache |
| [19:36:00] | StringBlade: | however, one is set up in /usr/local |
| [19:36:00] | StringBlade: | and that's the one that's been customized |
| [19:37:00] | StringBlade: | by "customized" I mean I have configured all my pages and scripts to work out of the /usr/local/structure for non-myth web stuff |
| [19:37:00] | StringBlade: | in other words: no good reason :) |
| [19:38:00] | flouger: | hmm i have a gforce3 it seems like the nvida flag worked |
| [19:38:00] | flouger: | evven though it said i needed a gforce4 |
| [19:39:00] | xris: | StringBlade: what distro? |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | anyway, for consistency, you should either use the rpm (my personal choice, since it makes upgrading SO much easier), or the source install, not both (ie. remove one of them). If you go with the source, then you'll need to compile php (mythweb works best with php 4.x) |
| [19:41:00] | GotD0t: | how do i change the input? |
| [19:41:00] | StringBlade: | FC3 |
| [19:41:00] | StringBlade: | xris: are you saying php 5 is not a good idea? |
| [19:42:00] | StringBlade: | GotD0t: are you using ivtv? (hauppauge card) |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | StringBlade: I think there are still some lingering issues in mythweb that don't work so well with php5. |
| [19:42:00] | GotD0t: | StringBlade: yes |
| [19:42:00] | GotD0t: | StringBlade: but i want to do it within the mythfrontend |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | they might be fixed in cvs, or maybe in .17. I haven't had any bug reports about them in awhile. |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | just a warning. |
| [19:42:00] | GotD0t: | i know theres a key press i just dont know what it is |
| [19:44:00] | StringBlade: | GotD0t: read keys.txt |
| [19:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | i am getting mad |
| [19:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | i can not run this mythtv |
| [19:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | i followed the howto |
| [19:44:00] | StringBlade: | xris: i'm running out of cvs from a few days ago. I'll let you know if it works after I re-install httpd using rpms |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | ok |
| [19:46:00] | ikaro: | gotd0t, i think its "c" |
| [19:46:00] | StringBlade: | xris: any ideas what I can do about this? |
| [19:46:00] | StringBlade: | Starting httpd: /usr/sbin/httpd: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libaprutil-0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdbm_errno |
| [19:46:00] | StringBlade: | I did a complete removal of httpd and re-install of the rpms |
| [19:46:00] | StringBlade: | and I still get it |
| [19:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | whitch port i should use for server backend? |
| [19:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | any one? |
| [19:46:00] | ikaro: | use the default. |
| [19:46:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: the default |
| [19:46:00] | StringBlade: | unless you have a good reason not to use it |
| [19:47:00] | StringBlade: | then you're on your own |
| [19:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: i erased it by mistake |
| [19:47:00] | beavis: | I'm just trying to start mythuitest. I always get Couldn't find theme. What does it miss? |
| [19:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: what port is the default? |
| [19:47:00] | StringBlade: | you're in the mythtv-setup? |
| [19:47:00] | StringBlade: | or the frontend setup? |
| [19:48:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: mythsetup |
| [19:48:00] | StringBlade: | I forget where that info is located |
| [19:48:00] | StringBlade: | ok |
| [19:48:00] | GotD0t: | thanks ikaro |
| [19:48:00] | ikaro: | gotd0t, np, i was just reading that part in the docs a few min. ago. |
| [19:48:00] | StringBlade: | 6543 |
| [19:48:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: it is in mythsetup > genrel> |
| [19:48:00] | LinuxMafia: | oh |
| [19:48:00] | StringBlade: | status on 6544 |
| [19:49:00] | ikaro: | gotd0t, which card do you have, if I may ask? |
| [19:49:00] | StringBlade: | master server 6543 |
| [19:49:00] | GotD0t: | ikaro: pvr250 |
| [19:49:00] | ikaro: | gotd0t, does it works well ? |
| [19:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: how about the first one |
| [19:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | ? |
| [19:50:00] | StringBlade: | 6543 |
| [19:50:00] | GotD0t: | ikaro: yes |
| [19:50:00] | ikaro: | gotd0t, ok, thanks. |
| [19:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | oh so i got 2 of them the same (6543) |
| [19:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | thanks |
| [19:50:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
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| [19:52:00] | LinuxMafia: | 2005-04–10 10:07:33.872 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)Connection timed out. |
| [19:53:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: is your backend running? |
| [19:53:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: yes |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | and do you have a firewall enabled? (note that fedora does this by default) |
| [19:54:00] | LinuxMafia: | xris: no |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | can you telnet to the port? |
| [19:54:00] | kormoc|zzzz is now known as kormoc | |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | or point a web browser at port 6544 (http status port) |
| [19:55:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: did you ever change the port that backend runs on? |
| [19:56:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: yes i did |
| [19:56:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: i rmeoved it |
| [19:56:00] | LinuxMafia: | i forgot my root password for mysql |
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| [19:58:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: is it the same as your root password? |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | LinuxMafia: that's bad |
| [19:58:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: or 'mysql' |
| [19:59:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: no 'mysql' |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | how about blank? that's usually the default |
| [20:00:00] | ikaro: | taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [20:00:00] | ikaro: | read what ? |
| [20:00:00] | LinuxMafia: | xris: no i set it to some thing b4 |
| [20:01:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: then you may be left with no choice but to remove and reinstall |
| [20:01:00] | StringBlade: | hope you didn't have much you cared about in it |
| [20:01:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: remove mysql? |
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| [20:01:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [20:01:00] | ikaro: | im also getting this: "Decoder not alive, and trying to play.." how come ? anyone can explain ? |
| [20:01:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: goo idea |
| [20:01:00] | LinuxMafia: | i start from begining |
| [20:02:00] | StringBlade: | not really, but if you can't access it, you don't really have a choice |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | LinuxMafia: there's a howto in the mysql manual for resetting it. But I think it only works if you still have the source it was compiled from. otherwise, remove, delete /var/lib/mysql/mysql/ and reinstall |
| [20:03:00] | LinuxMafia: | xris: thatnsk i am using gentoo |
| [20:04:00] | LinuxMafia: | xris: it didnt have mysql dependencies |
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| [20:11:00] | StringBlade: | xris: got it working |
| [20:12:00] | StringBlade: | thanks for your help |
| [20:12:00] | StringBlade: | the error I was getting was because I had symlinks of the same name to the /usr/local/apache2 installation (non-rpm one) |
| [20:12:00] | StringBlade: | removing those and reinstalling httpd fixed it |
| [20:15:00] | ikaro: | anyone here got a pvr350 and got it working with mythtv ? |
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| [20:16:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Yes. |
| [20:16:00] | ikaro: | ok .. thats 1 |
| [20:17:00] | ikaro: | out of 131 nicks .. |
| [20:17:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Lotta people don't respond to open-ended questions like that... |
| [20:18:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Sorry, I mean leading questions. Do you have a problem? |
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| [20:18:00] | ikaro: | yes i have. |
| [20:18:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: Just state it, plz :). |
| [20:18:00] | ikaro: | ive been trying for 3 days to setup my Wintv-pvr350 with mythtv .. but all i get is a black screen. |
| [20:19:00] | StringBlade: | ikaro: the 150 and 250 seem to be most popular around here right now |
| [20:19:00] | ikaro: | ive read countless howtos and docs pages and forums posts all over the web. |
| [20:20:00] | ikaro: | stringblade, indeed, thats why I asked the so called "open-ended" question, if the pvr-350 is not supported or no one got it to work, then I can give up and get something else. |
| [20:20:00] | ikaro: | instead of wasting time trying to get this working :> |
| [20:21:00] | Cromz: | I have fc3 64bit, pvr350 works fine, following myth(tv)ology guide. |
| [20:21:00] | ikaro: | im using gentoo also a64 |
| [20:21:00] | ikaro: | Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping. |
| [20:21:00] | StringBlade: | ikaro: it seems to me the 350 is supported and does work, I just don't know how many people are using it that are here (1 out of your 131) |
| [20:22:00] | ikaro: | messages like those, ive searched and searched, but really no answer to why that happens. |
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| [20:24:00] | Cromz: | I am new to myth, so I doubt I can be very helpfull. sorry. but the win350 does work. I used the yum / apt-get method and that guide. |
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| [20:24:00] | StringBlade: | a consistant theme I'm seeing is a lot of problems from Gentoo users |
| [20:24:00] | StringBlade: | go figure |
| [20:24:00] | ikaro: | yes gentoo is very problematic |
| [20:25:00] | StringBlade: | ikaro: can you do 'cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg' and get video? |
| [20:25:00] | StringBlade: | or whatever device your video card is |
| [20:25:00] | ikaro: | not really |
| [20:25:00] | StringBlade: | meaning you still get a blank screen or static? |
| [20:25:00] | ikaro: | sometimes I just geta file, which aI can play with mplayer, but there is either sound or image in it. |
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| [20:25:00] | StringBlade: | not both |
| [20:25:00] | StringBlade: | and it's random? sound or image? |
| [20:25:00] | ikaro: | just black static |
| [20:26:00] | ikaro: | and sundently something happens, and I start getting these messages about the "Remote encoder not responding" |
| [20:26:00] | ikaro: | and "Decoder not alive, and trying to play.." |
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| [20:27:00] | ikaro: | and then Im stuck there until I reboot and try again with other settings, but to no avail.. ive been doing this for 3 days now. |
| [20:29:00] | mishehu: | hmm... I just updated from 0.17 to CVS from two days ago. I uninstalled all myth 0.17 components, and installed all the new ones. I have libmythmusic.so and libmythvideo.so in /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins. any idea why when I go to "Media Library" I have no options for music or video files? |
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| [20:31:00] | Cromz: | ikaro: I'm guessing cause I really don't know this stuff that well.. sounds like maybe the ivtv driver.. something not right on that. |
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| [20:32:00] | ikaro: | cromz, can be. all im doing is guessing |
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| [20:40:00] | Cromz: | :( I finnaly foudn that command to check to see if the ivtv driver is loaded and ikaro left.. not sure it's the same on gentoo but was worth a shot. |
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| [20:40:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [20:40:00] | Cromz: | hey |
| [20:40:00] | kormoc: | lsmod? :P |
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| [20:41:00] | Cromz: | ikaro: not sure it's the same on gentoo but on fc3.. I ran this to see if the ivtv driver sees the card right.. /sbin/lspci -v |
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| [20:42:00] | Marts: | hey guys, having a bit of a weird problem with my 0.17 install on gentoo. I have a pvr 350, and its all working ok, except that every time I try to watch anything in the frontend it complains that it can't open the audio device (not surprising because I haven't put one in) because I want to use the built in audio of the 350 |
| [20:43:00] | Marts: | if I say "continue without audio" then it works fine, with audio, but it's a bit annoying |
| [20:43:00] | Marts: | any ideas? |
| [20:43:00] | ikaro: | cromz, i downloaded the ivtv 0.3 and installed ( rebooted coz thebox locked ) now, again I can start mythtvfrontend and see the programs menu and what seems to be able to change channel, however I see nothing other than static and still no sound. |
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| [20:43:00] | ikaro: | in the mythtvbackend -v im seeing this: prebuffering pause |
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| [20:44:00] | Marts: | I've tried putting /dev/null but that didn't help (it tried to configure it and it failed) |
| [20:45:00] | NightMonkey: | Sorry, AFK. So, I think I've seen more problems from x86_64 users, than from Gentoo users per-se. |
| [20:45:00] | NightMonkey: | But, there is #gentoo-mythtv. |
| [20:45:00] | Marts: | i am using gentoo but x86, not 64 |
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| [20:47:00] | NightMonkey: | So, ikaro, you are using Gentoo on an AMD64 box? |
| [20:48:00] | NightMonkey: | (For your myth box) |
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| [20:48:00] | ** amax is also getting the prebuffering pauses,... (he uses debian) ** | |
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| [20:49:00] | zamboni: | Beirdo are you at the console? |
| [20:50:00] | zamboni: | looking for info on your nuv2avi utility |
| [20:50:00] | zamboni: | I built it but it doesnt run |
| [20:50:00] | zamboni: | says out of memory and a few other things |
| [20:50:00] | NightMonkey: | So, what is the symptom or result of the "prebuffering pause"? |
| [20:51:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, every once in a while pauses on video and sound while watching live tv. |
| [20:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Is it related to disk DMA capability/settings? |
| [20:52:00] | StringBlade: | ikaro: I've had that prebuffering pause before |
| [20:52:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, doubt it, my disk has dma set to 1, that is, on. |
| [20:52:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Do you have DMA "on" on your drive? What does hdparm /dev/{drive} sayy? |
| [20:52:00] | StringBlade: | I'm racking my brains right now to remember how I got rid of it |
| [20:52:00] | zamboni: | StringBlade sounds like something I do often |
| [20:52:00] | StringBlade: | the ivtv drivers you're using (0.3) are which version? |
| [20:52:00] | ikaro: | [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaab7a27f0]00 motion_type at 8 24 |
| [20:52:00] | ikaro: | [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaab7a27f0]00 motion_type at 1 29 |
| [20:52:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, it is on. I was able to get less prebuffering pauses setting the mythfrontend SUID. |
| [20:52:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: And what does "hdparm -iI /dev/{drive}" say? |
| [20:52:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, lemme see,... |
| [20:53:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Ah, yes, that should help. What proc are you seeing? |
| [20:53:00] | ** zamboni is using 0.3.2u and it works with a pvr-250 on kernel 2.6.12-rc1 ** | |
| [20:53:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, give me a sec, im turning on the mythbox. :) what prox am I seeing? what do you mean? cpu usage? |
| [20:53:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: The DMA level is also significant (i.e. udma4 vs. udma5"). |
| [20:53:00] | amax: | s/prox/proc |
| [20:53:00] | ** StringBlade is using 0.3.2i on FC3 working with at PVR-150 kernel 2.6.11-custom ** | |
| [20:54:00] | NightMonkey: | Sorry, I meant to type "What proc are you using?" |
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| [20:54:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, ah! i have an AMD, 1700+ |
| [20:54:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Same here. |
| [20:54:00] | zamboni: | anyone here able to use beirdos nuv2avi utility? |
| [20:54:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, installing the nvidia driver also helped a lot with the prebuffering issues |
| [20:54:00] | ikaro: | i get so much "garbage" in the vterminal .. makes no sense. |
| [20:54:00] | StringBlade: | sorry zamboni – haven't found anything I really wan to keep yet. ;) |
| [20:55:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Sorry, I actually use a 1600. |
| [20:55:00] | zamboni: | cartoons? |
| [20:55:00] | zamboni: | what no cartoons? |
| [20:55:00] | StringBlade: | which ones? |
| [20:55:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, :) |
| [20:55:00] | zamboni: | Looney Tunes ,of course |
| [20:55:00] | StringBlade: | lol |
| [20:55:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: From what program? In what log? |
| [20:55:00] | StringBlade: | only Animaniacs |
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| [20:56:00] | zamboni: | dont know Animaniacs |
| [20:56:00] | ** StringBlade is shocked ** | |
| [20:56:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, as to the results of the hdparm, i am using udam4 (the best the HD has). |
| [20:56:00] | StringBlade: | Animaniacs is only the best kids cartoon because it's really intelligent and for adults too |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro|zzzz is now known as defaultro | |
| [20:56:00] | StringBlade: | too bad it's long gone into rerun land |
| [20:56:00] | zamboni: | who shows it? |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro: | so guys, if we want to capture regular analog comcast, all we need is either pvr150 or 250 right? |
| [20:57:00] | Marts: | rockos modern life is good :> |
| [20:57:00] | ikaro: | nightmonkey, ill put it online. |
| [20:57:00] | StringBlade: | it was on Nickelodeon for a while....don't know where now, maybe Cartoon Network |
| [20:57:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: I think you'd see your problem disappear with udma5. But what does "hdparm -tT /dev/{drive}" give you as the drives throughput? |
| [20:57:00] | zamboni: | Oh |
| [20:57:00] | amax: | defaultro, does the pvr150 work with the latest ivtv? |
| [20:57:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: yup, should work |
| [20:57:00] | ikaro: | nightmonkey, http://ikaro.homepage.dk/log |
| [20:57:00] | StringBlade: | Rocko is good |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | some guys were able to get their 150 working now |
| [20:57:00] | zamboni: | I think -T reads the buffers |
| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | ok StringBlade |
| [20:58:00] | zamboni: | 150 are supposet to work with the dev branch |
| [20:58:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: I'm one of those guys |
| [20:58:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, cached: 393 MB/s buffered: 22 MB/s |
| [20:58:00] | Marts: | defaultro, they 150 and 250 dont have hardware playback, so you need a fairly decent CPU I think |
| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | haven't really seen the interfaces of 150, does it have a coax port? |
| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | Marts, yup, i have |
| [20:58:00] | amax: | defaultro, cool... i can think about buying that card now. :) |
| [20:58:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: That's not "garbage"... ;) Garbage is when you get "$58@#**^***___#" from your modem or something... |
| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | i curently have air2pc and 6600 GT card |
| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | but im considering analog too |
| [20:58:00] | zamboni: | pvr-250 works fine here on a stock slackware 10 without any fanncy nvidia drivers |
| [20:58:00] | Marts: | I got a 350, as I'm trying to use a 700Mhz CPU |
| [20:59:00] | zamboni: | Should be okay |
| [20:59:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Are you using hardware or software decoding? |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | so pvr150 saves the stream as mpg2? |
| [20:59:00] | StringBlade: | Marts: the 150 has a hardware mpeg encoder, but the playback should be no more intense than a normal mpg |
| [20:59:00] | amax: | software, my tv tuner card is an old ATI Wonder VE |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | are there any encoding happening? |
| [20:59:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: yes |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | and it's mpeg 2 format right? |
| [21:00:00] | StringBlade: | I believe so |
| [21:00:00] | StringBlade: | cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | however, it's going to be only 4:3 ratio right/ |
| [21:00:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: I think you need to get your vidcard working first, before worrying about mythtv proper. |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [21:00:00] | StringBlade: | then play back in mplayer |
| [21:00:00] | StringBlade: | not necessarily |
| [21:00:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, software (i think), my tv tuner card is an old ATI Wonder VE |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | is it 480x480? |
| [21:00:00] | StringBlade: | I have mine capturing at 720x480 |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:00:00] | Marts: | yeah, the 1|2|350 all have hardware encoders but only the 350 has a hardware decdoer (I believe) |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | that's correct Marts |
| [21:00:00] | ikaro: | nightmonkey, how would I do that ? |
| [21:00:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: That could be your issue. The 1700 might not have enough horsepower? |
| [21:01:00] | StringBlade: | Marts: right, but the playback isn't overly intensive |
| [21:01:00] | defaultro: | so StringBlade, does pvr150/250 know if it's an interlace or progressive stream? |
| [21:01:00] | Marts: | ah ok |
| [21:01:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: You are using AMD64, right |
| [21:01:00] | NightMonkey: | ? |
| [21:01:00] | StringBlade: | no, I don't think it does |
| [21:01:00] | StringBlade: | but then again |
| [21:01:00] | StringBlade: | I think it's all interlaced |
| [21:01:00] | ikaro: | nightmonkey, correct. |
| [21:01:00] | StringBlade: | myth will deinterlace it for you |
| [21:01:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:01:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, could be,... the front end uses around 25–30% cpu while the backend uses around 40–45... but at times it might go up. That's why I am considering getting a new tuner (Hauppauge 350?) :D |
| [21:01:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | prolly, quality will not be nice on my 1080i output |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | i should scale down X |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | when watching it |
| [21:02:00] | NightMonkey: | ikaro: I haven't heard good reports about ivtv compatibility with that platform, yet. So, you might want to consider another platform, like x86_32. |
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| [21:02:00] | StringBlade: | SDTV quality on an HDTV has always been crappy |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | ah ok |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | so i really have to set the mode then |
| [21:02:00] | StringBlade: | I have my output via DVI to my HDTV |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | that's what i had before but i scrap it |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | due to tearing buy |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | bug |
| [21:03:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Well, for me, the 350 was the right choice, since the CPU was kinda slow, and the quality is very high. |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | i got rid of it by building my own rgbhv cable |
| [21:03:00] | Marts: | if you want to use the 350 tv out, then myth can't deinterlace it (I believe) |
| [21:03:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: But Hauppague isn't a very good copany as far as support for Open Source goes. |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | this is the tearing bug im refering too |
| [21:03:00] | StringBlade: | Marts: right – the 350 out bypasses the computer completely |
| [21:04:00] | defaultro: | http://restricted.dyndns.org/ut2004-tearing.jpg |
| [21:04:00] | defaultro: | that's using DVI and component out |
| [21:04:00] | mishehu: | hmm... I just updated from 0.17 to CVS from two days ago. I uninstalled all myth 0.17 components, and installed all the new ones. I have libmythmusic.so and libmythvideo.so in /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins. any idea why when I go to "Media Library" I have no options for music or video files? |
| [21:04:00] | defaultro: | the proprietary 6 pin ps2 on 6600GT card |
| [21:04:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: what GPU do you have? |
| [21:04:00] | StringBlade: | n/m |
| [21:04:00] | defaultro: | 6600GT |
| [21:04:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [21:04:00] | Marts: | anyone got any idea about my audio problem – I dont want myth to try to use an audio device, because the 350 decodes the audio itself, but I if I leave the audio device blank in the options, it still tries to use it |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | then here |
| [21:05:00] | ** jvs is away: party party hard! ** | |
| [21:05:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: And I don't worry about all the other services on the box interfering with playback or recording, like mySQL, Apache, PHP, commercial cutting, etc. |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | i wrote a howto, http://restricted.dyndns.org/hookingpc2hdtv.html |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [21:05:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, yes, that is why I like the 350 – I should be able to use my server for other stuff too, and as to the support Hauppauge gives... well, as long as there are hackers out there. ;) |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | i've got some screenshots there |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | the reason i wanted to get pvr150 is bcause, im planning to get comcast |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | howver, i don't know if they will stop me from hosting my personal homepage |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | and personal mail server |
| [21:06:00] | StringBlade: | brb |
| [21:06:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: But sometimes Hauppague seems to be directly making life difficult for the devs, by changing hardware specs for the 350 mid-stream. Search Gossamer – look for model number issues with the 350. I have Model 990, which seems to be significant. |
| [21:07:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: But, perhaps the ivtv folks have resolved those issues. |
| [21:07:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, thanks for the heads up. Are there other cards with HW encoders/decoders? |
| [21:08:00] | defaultro: | so guys, when watching your 720x480, what is your X resolution? |
| [21:08:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: There are, but, AFAIK, the Hauppague cards are seen as the best in fidelity. |
| [21:08:00] | zamboni: | 1024X768 here |
| [21:08:00] | amax: | defaultro, they will surely do.. My ISP blocks several ports, 80, 25 and others.. :( |
| [21:08:00] | defaultro: | i meanm your modeline |
| [21:08:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:08:00] | StringBlade: | 960x540p |
| [21:08:00] | defaultro: | amax, your on comcast too? |
| [21:08:00] | zamboni: | haventlooked |
| [21:08:00] | amax: | defaultro, no,... Telus (canadian west coast) |
| [21:08:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:09:00] | defaultro: | i was comcast subscriber about 2 years ago. I was already hosting that restricted website and it was up with no issues. But now, i'm thinking that they have changed their policies |
| [21:10:00] | amax: | you will always have that risk if you go with the 'consumer' package. |
| [21:10:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:10:00] | defaultro: | i'll ask my friend again who is in comcast too |
| [21:10:00] | defaultro: | i know he has a webserver |
| [21:11:00] | defaultro: | so which exact pvr150 should i get? |
| [21:11:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, looks like Hauppauge is like a bank, nobody likes them, but we all need them :) |
| [21:11:00] | defaultro: | mce? |
| [21:11:00] | amax: | as far as I know, the mce doesn't come with a remote control |
| [21:11:00] | defaultro: | it's ok, i have a homebrew remote control |
| [21:11:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Gotta tell you, while things may have changed, comcast had terrible compression on their "Digital Cable" offering. Since I had the PVR-350, I went with Dish, which, while still having compression, seems to be much less artifacts. |
| [21:12:00] | defaultro: | but is it supported? |
| [21:12:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Yeah. Well, their hardware people are obviously top notch. |
| [21:12:00] | defaultro: | Nightmonkey, compression on their digital programs? |
| [21:12:00] | NightMonkey: | to be=to have |
| [21:12:00] | NightMonkey: | defaultro: Yep. Again, that was 2 years ago, though. |
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| [21:13:00] | NightMonkey: | defaultro: Dunno if they've gotten better (or worse). |
| [21:13:00] | defaultro: | if they're doing that, once it's received by our pvr, it's gonna be compressed again, right? |
| [21:13:00] | defaultro: | so Dish Network is ok? |
| [21:13:00] | defaultro: | you're just using the svideo out on the receiver? |
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| [21:13:00] | NightMonkey: | defaultro: Yes, but how much (or little) depends on you. It also depends on how you connect to the cable box – via analog or S-VIDEO, etc. |
| [21:14:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone wanna buy a modded xbox already setup to be a mythfrontend. And also setup to play games? |
| [21:14:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: ping |
| [21:14:00] | defaultro: | well, my existing dish network recv only has svideo and rca out |
| [21:14:00] | NightMonkey: | defaultro: I think everyone does some form of compression. For me, Dish's compression is the least objectionably. |
| [21:14:00] | NightMonkey: | objectionably=objectionable. |
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| [21:14:00] | defaultro: | but yeah, i like the quality of my dish network |
| [21:14:00] | defaultro: | it's clean |
| [21:14:00] | NightMonkey: | defaultro: I use the s-video. That's the best way to go. |
| [21:14:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: I'm using Dish |
| [21:14:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:14:00] | NightMonkey: | brb |
| [21:14:00] | StringBlade: | with composite out |
| [21:14:00] | StringBlade: | the s-video had color problems with the 150 |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | does pvr150 have svideo in? |
| [21:15:00] | StringBlade: | I don't know if that's fixed or not |
| [21:15:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:15:00] | StringBlade: | I think it is fixed |
| [21:15:00] | StringBlade: | but I haven't tried it yet |
| [21:15:00] | Baylink: | Funny this should come up... I was watching Carnival on HBO on Knology Tampa Bay last night... |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | so pvr150 has composite and rca in only? |
| [21:15:00] | Cardoe: | defaultro: can ya do me a favor? |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | sure Cardoe |
| [21:15:00] | StringBlade: | 150 has composite, rca, and svideo in |
| [21:15:00] | Baylink: | and the compression was so hard I could *see* blocks in the background of shots. |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | composite and rca are the same |
| [21:15:00] | Cardoe: | defaultro: tell Beirdo my box blew up so I barely have net access till the new laptop comes in a week. |
| [21:15:00] | Baylink: | Couldn't have been more than 3MBs, I think. |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:15:00] | StringBlade: | right |
| [21:15:00] | defaultro: | isnt't he here? |
| [21:16:00] | defaultro: | prolly you meant, coax, composite and svideo? |
| [21:16:00] | StringBlade: | I meant tuner in, composite in, or s-video in |
| [21:16:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:16:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [21:16:00] | defaultro: | bam |
| [21:16:00] | defaultro: | ;) |
| [21:16:00] | mishehu: | *sigh* |
| [21:17:00] | defaultro: | so pvr150's tuner can capture both ota and cable? |
| [21:17:00] | StringBlade: | mishehu: sorry, I saw your question and I meant to respond |
| [21:17:00] | StringBlade: | mishehu: I don't know the solution, but is your set-up a mix of rpms and compile yourself? |
| [21:17:00] | defaultro: | Cardoe, i already told him |
| [21:18:00] | defaultro: | no response though |
| [21:18:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: if by ota, you mean through the tuner, yes |
| [21:18:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [21:18:00] | defaultro: | what about cable? |
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| [21:18:00] | StringBlade: | Beirdo logs all this...he'll get the message |
| [21:18:00] | mishehu: | StringBlade: straight self-compile |
| [21:18:00] | mishehu: | I run slack here |
| [21:18:00] | StringBlade: | wow |
| [21:18:00] | Cardoe: | alright. well I gotta run |
| [21:18:00] | StringBlade: | haven't dealt with slack in years |
| [21:18:00] | defaultro: | cool |
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| [21:18:00] | StringBlade: | defaultro: yes, using s-video or composite |
| [21:18:00] | defaultro: | StringBlade, what about cable tv in that tuner in? |
| [21:19:00] | StringBlade: | the tuner only tunes 1–125 or something like that |
| [21:19:00] | StringBlade: | only analog stations |
| [21:19:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:19:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [21:19:00] | defaultro: | so setting would be us-bcast |
| [21:19:00] | StringBlade: | all digital cable /dish/directv must come in through the composite or s-video |
| [21:19:00] | StringBlade: | and your box/receiver must tune |
| [21:19:00] | StringBlade: | use |
| [21:19:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:19:00] | StringBlade: | yes I mean |
| [21:19:00] | defaultro: | are you familiar with dvb cards? |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | I just got a MyBlaster for $40 (serial) to control the dish receiver |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | works like a charm |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | no |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | sorry |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | np |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | you can also build a transmitter |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | since you built a remote |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | yeah, i have transmitter too |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | http://restricted.dyndns.org/irblaster.html |
| [21:20:00] | flouger: | bah i wonder if proftpd supports fxers |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | but I'm electronically challeneged |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | :-) |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | it's easy |
| [21:20:00] | defaultro: | i followed lirc.org |
| [21:20:00] | ikaro: | flouger, pure does. |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | not for an idiot |
| [21:20:00] | StringBlade: | where'd you get your parts? RS? |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | some from rs |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | and some from mouser.com |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | i only got the receiver led from mouser.com |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | TSOP1811 something |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | i couldnt remember |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | that's the airplane on top of my hdtv |
| [21:21:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, well I have a breadboard somewhere |
| [21:21:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [21:22:00] | StringBlade: | but I just don't have the confidence or patience |
| [21:22:00] | flouger: | but pro was so easy to setup with gproftpd |
| [21:22:00] | defaultro: | http://restricted.dyndns.org/irrec1.jpg |
| [21:22:00] | StringBlade: | and it certainly wouldn't look very nice |
| [21:22:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [21:22:00] | defaultro: | http://restricted.dyndns.org/irrec7.jpg |
| [21:22:00] | StringBlade: | btw |
| [21:22:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [21:22:00] | StringBlade: | I"ve seen an awful lot on the lists about the MCE |
| [21:22:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:22:00] | StringBlade: | so I don't know if I can recommend that |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | but I got the 1045 (retail) |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | and it's fine |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | i should stay away from it then |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | well |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | 1045? |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | read the lists |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | and decide for yourself |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | never heard of 1045 |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | PVR-150 model 1045 (Retail) |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | MCE is a different model |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | yeap |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | and it only comes with Windows drivers |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | what about 500 |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | for MCE |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | don't know |
| [21:23:00] | LinuxMafia: | ok |
| [21:23:00] | LinuxMafia: | back |
| [21:23:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:23:00] | StringBlade: | working Mafia? |
| [21:23:00] | LinuxMafia: | i want to start from begining |
| [21:24:00] | StringBlade: | sounds good |
| [21:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: no just installed mysql |
| [21:24:00] | defaultro: | so is .18 coming out on Monday? |
| [21:24:00] | StringBlade: | that's the rumor |
| [21:24:00] | defaultro: | dude, this hobby is very expensive |
| [21:24:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [21:24:00] | StringBlade: | yes it is |
| [21:24:00] | defaultro: | now i got to buy an spdif connector |
| [21:24:00] | StringBlade: | it's really not cost-effective |
| [21:25:00] | defaultro: | then i have to buy nice pc case |
| [21:25:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, a nice HTPC case is my next purchase |
| [21:25:00] | StringBlade: | like the look of the SilverStone LC10, but it's noisy and I'd like a built in IR receiver |
| [21:26:00] | NightMonkey: | It doesn't have to be very expensive. But, what are you comparing it to? |
| [21:26:00] | StringBlade: | I can fix the noise problems with different case fans |
| [21:26:00] | StringBlade: | renting a DVR from your cable/sat provider |
| [21:26:00] | StringBlade: | amortized over many years, this is cheaper |
| [21:26:00] | StringBlade: | but as an at-once purchase, the other hardware is cheaper |
| [21:27:00] | StringBlade: | for example |
| [21:27:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Wow, and less featureful. |
| [21:27:00] | StringBlade: | if you didn't have an extra computer lying around, you'd have to buy everything |
| [21:27:00] | StringBlade: | I know a pundit is about $250, right? |
| [21:27:00] | StringBlade: | so that's pretty cheap |
| [21:27:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Yeah, I only go by total cash outlay over time. That's the only way to really compare fairly. |
| [21:27:00] | StringBlade: | true |
| [21:28:00] | StringBlade: | but you might want to count the headache and frustration of getting it together |
| [21:28:00] | StringBlade: | for me, I call that fun |
| [21:28:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [21:28:00] | amax: | StringBlade: thats the fun part :) |
| [21:28:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: And with a cheap shuttle, an older processor, and a PVR-X50 card, you can really do well. |
| [21:28:00] | StringBlade: | but all I'm saying is this is not a simple solution for just anyone |
| [21:28:00] | ** amax agrees with StringBlade ** | |
| [21:28:00] | StringBlade: | you have to have a fair amount of knowledge and patience |
| [21:28:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Oh, for sure. If you can't build a MythTV box, there's always Tivo. (well, until Tivo goes under/gets bought/etc) |
| [21:29:00] | StringBlade: | that said, I think most (if not everyone) here falls under the knowledgable/patient/uber-geek type |
| [21:29:00] | StringBlade: | prob with TiVo is you have to pay for the service |
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| [21:29:00] | StringBlade: | at least, that's my prob with it |
| [21:29:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: KnoppMyth appears to be getting close. But, no, you can't order a "MythTV Extreme" Dell box, or something. |
| [21:30:00] | StringBlade: | MythTV offers a few things that appeal to me the most: infinite expandability (both in HDD space and backend/frontends) |
| [21:30:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: So, the hardware gathering does require some research that is well outside the range of the average Circuit City shopper. |
| [21:30:00] | StringBlade: | it's free as in speech |
| [21:30:00] | StringBlade: | and it's a challenge |
| [21:30:00] | StringBlade: | with a rewarding result |
| [21:31:00] | StringBlade: | bragging rights to those who can't build it themselves but really like the look of it |
| [21:31:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [21:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists |
| [21:31:00] | StringBlade: | doesn't seem like mysql was completely removed :) |
| [21:31:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Yes, you pay for Tivo, and it doesn't even deliver high quality recordings at it's highest res. Even Replay didn't do 720x480 at the highest res, AFAIK. |
| [21:31:00] | amax: | StringBlade: where I live you can't get tivo,... so mythTV is the only option. :D |
| [21:32:00] | StringBlade: | NightMonkey: exactly...and I want my widescreen :) |
| [21:32:00] | StringBlade: | what good is an HDTV set with 480x480? |
| [21:32:00] | StringBlade: | bah |
| [21:32:00] | StringBlade: | amax: Canada? |
| [21:32:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Well, if you need something to hold down the carpet better, I guess it might be better at that ;). |
| [21:33:00] | StringBlade: | lol |
| [21:33:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: i did remove it |
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| [21:33:00] | flouger: | when i launch xmame it immeditaly disappers |
| [21:33:00] | amax: | StringBlade: yep |
| [21:33:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: now worked :P |
| [21:33:00] | StringBlade: | amax: whereabouts? east or west? |
| [21:33:00] | amax: | StringBlade: west coast, vancouver |
| [21:33:00] | StringBlade: | nice |
| [21:33:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Did you remove the DB files? |
| [21:33:00] | StringBlade: | my uncle lives there too |
| [21:33:00] | ikaro: | i get sound now .. |
| [21:34:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: You could just drop the DB from within MySQL. |
| [21:34:00] | amax: | StringBlade: nice city, ppl don't know how to drive tho |
| [21:34:00] | ikaro: | using ptune-ui .. but i guess the pal-europe isnt right, coz i dont get any image. |
| [21:34:00] | StringBlade: | amax: I think that is true in many cities — and the whole state of New Jersey |
| [21:34:00] | amax: | StringBlade: :) |
| [21:35:00] | StringBlade: | amax: never been to Vancouver myself :( |
| [21:35:00] | StringBlade: | amax: I'm state-side over by Toronto |
| [21:35:00] | amax: | StringBlade: if you come, try doing it in summer for the celebration of lights, best fireworks ever! |
| [21:36:00] | StringBlade: | amax: sounds good |
| [21:36:00] | StringBlade: | amax: maybe I'll stop by and see your Myth set-up, :D |
| [21:37:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: no i didnt , but i removed the whole directory |
| [21:37:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Which "whole directory"? |
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| [21:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i did rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/myth* |
| [21:38:00] | flouger: | is there a mame image downloader yet? |
| [21:38:00] | amax: | StringBlade: let me finish it, and sure! let me know when you're coming! :D I just started two days ago, so I still have a lot to do. |
| [21:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | what should i do |
| [21:39:00] | StringBlade: | amax: and you have it all working already :o |
| [21:39:00] | LinuxMafia: | custom identifier or the other one (in mythsetup) |
| [21:39:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: So, if, in mysql monitor, you do a "show databases;" what do you see? |
| [21:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: right now? |
| [21:40:00] | amax: | StringBlade: yep. :D |
| [21:40:00] | StringBlade: | anyone ever tried ripping a DVD (mirror image) to the HD and playing it back with mythvideo? |
| [21:41:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Sure, why not. |
| [21:41:00] | StringBlade: | amax: impressive! |
| [21:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | mysql> show databases |
| [21:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | -> |
| [21:41:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Note the semicolon in my example |
| [21:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | oh sorry |
| [21:42:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: np :) |
| [21:42:00] | amax: | StringBlade: it was like a proof of concept when I decided to do it. I had everything I needed, so I slapped everything into a computer and followed the instructions. I am a debian user and had the tuner card already working on a computer with tvtime, I knew how to set up alsa too... |
| [21:42:00] | LinuxMafia: | | mysql || mythconverg || test |
| [21:42:00] | StringBlade: | amax: that helps |
| [21:42:00] | amax: | StringBlade: and other than small prebuffering problems, its working great. |
| [21:42:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [21:43:00] | StringBlade: | amax: which card again? |
| [21:43:00] | amax: | StringBlade: an ATI TV Wonder VE |
| [21:43:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: So, to get past that error, say "drop mythconverg;" ONLY IF YOU REALLY WANT TO. |
| [21:43:00] | amax: | i had to play with the tuner setting, it autodected wrong |
| [21:43:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i did past that error , now i am in mythsetup |
| [21:44:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Oh. Nevermind, then. |
| [21:44:00] | StringBlade: | amax: cool. A success story for the non-Hauppauge cards. |
| [21:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: should i check use Wak-On-Lan? |
| [21:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: or the other one |
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| [21:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | ? |
| [21:44:00] | phillip37: | hello everybody |
| [21:45:00] | amax: | StringBlade: i will post something in my blog... when I set it up. :) hahaha, so many projects, so little time. |
| [21:45:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Since you are asking, I'd leave it off ;). |
| [21:46:00] | phillip37: | i have a small problem i have a vision plus dvb-t high deffinition tv card when i try to scan for channels i recieve this message it says error tuning to transport does anyone know what this means at all any help most appreciated |
| [21:46:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: so how about the other one custom one , leave that one off too? |
| [21:46:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: did you check the mailing lists for the answer already? just curious |
| [21:46:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Hmm... don't know what you are refferring to there. Are you following the docs? |
| [21:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: yes , i am doing http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#MySQL |
| [21:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: it did not mention any thing there |
| [21:47:00] | phillip37: | hi stringblade i have but because this is only the first time i have used linux/mythtv i have no idea what i am looking for at all ok |
| [21:49:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: well, you're looking for the answer — same as you're looking for here, search for terms in your problem 'dvb' 'HDTV' or 'high definition' and maybe the error message |
| [21:49:00] | StringBlade: | any combination of those terms or alone |
| [21:50:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: The official docs are here: http://mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall |
| [21:50:00] | StringBlade: | i mean separate |
| [21:50:00] | phillip37: | ok stringblade |
| [21:50:00] | zamboni: | phillip37 I gues you have the card hooked up to a data stream? |
| [21:50:00] | phillip37: | what does the transport mean does that mean the antenna at all |
| [21:50:00] | phillip37: | whats data stream |
| [21:50:00] | zamboni: | yes |
| [21:50:00] | zamboni: | antenna in you r case its a terreestrial net right |
| [21:51:00] | zamboni: | ? |
| [21:51:00] | phillip37: | if you mean do i have it hooked up to the internet then ys it is hooked up to the net |
| [21:51:00] | phillip37: | im not sure what sort of antenna we have |
| [21:51:00] | phillip37: | could that be the problem |
| [21:52:00] | phillip37: | all i can say is when we scan for the channels the signal strength is absolutey 0 |
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| [21:56:00] | StringBlade: | hmm phillip37, if you have no signal, it's hard to tune, right? ;) |
| [21:56:00] | StringBlade: | are you using rabbit ears or a cable? |
| [21:56:00] | phillip37: | i am using a cable direct from the antenna |
| [21:57:00] | phillip37: | no splitter boxes nothing else just antenna to mythtv box |
| [21:57:00] | phillip37: | less than 14 feet from antenna to mythtvbox |
| [21:57:00] | zamboni: | so do you have a stB from the provider? |
| [21:57:00] | phillip37: | antenna has line of sight to tv towers ok |
| [21:58:00] | phillip37: | whats an stb |
| [21:58:00] | zamboni: | set top box |
| [21:58:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: have you hooked it up to a TV to make sure it has a signal? |
| [21:58:00] | zamboni: | yes |
| [21:58:00] | zamboni: | good idea |
| [21:58:00] | phillip37: | if you mean do i get tv channels on the tv then the awnser is yes |
| [21:59:00] | phillip37: | all of them |
| [21:59:00] | phillip37: | i should mention that i am in brisbane queensland australia |
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| [22:01:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: stb = Set Top Box (i.e. cable box) |
| [22:02:00] | phillip37: | ahh yes i do have a standard set top box |
| [22:02:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: this time looks differnet |
| [22:02:00] | StringBlade: | linuxMafia: good different? |
| [22:02:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: yes |
| [22:02:00] | phillip37: | it gets all the digital channels but not the high deffinition channels ok |
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| [22:02:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: mythfill works at first time |
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| [22:03:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: and mythsetup has sircle icons |
| [22:03:00] | LinuxMafia: | circle* |
| [22:04:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: which did you run first? mythfilldatabase or mythsetup? |
| [22:04:00] | LinuxMafia: | mythsetup |
| [22:04:00] | LinuxMafia: | then mythfilldatabase |
| [22:04:00] | StringBlade: | ok |
| [22:04:00] | LinuxMafia: | it that right? |
| [22:04:00] | StringBlade: | just checking |
| [22:05:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [22:05:00] | LinuxMafia: | cool |
| [22:05:00] | LinuxMafia: | then this frontend? |
| [22:05:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: so the antenna is for the HD? |
| [22:05:00] | LinuxMafia: | no no mybackend |
| [22:06:00] | phillip37: | stringblade this antenna is for the mythtv box nothing else |
| [22:06:00] | StringBlade: | ah |
| [22:06:00] | phillip37: | thats all it is their for |
| [22:06:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: you should have mythbackend running when you run mythfilldatabase |
| [22:07:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: yes just figure that out |
| [22:07:00] | phillip37: | it does not go to another tv or anything like that at all ok |
| [22:07:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: do You have a sattelite reciver? |
| [22:07:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: sorry, I was just generally troubleshooting – I know nothing about the dvb cards :( |
| [22:07:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: yes |
| [22:07:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: and can i wahtch all channels in your pc , |
| [22:08:00] | LinuxMafia: | like different channel thatn what tv is showing |
| [22:08:00] | phillip37: | ok stringblade thanks for your help anyway |
| [22:08:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: I don't understand your question |
| [22:09:00] | StringBlade: | you'll be able to see whatever you can see on your regular tv |
| [22:09:00] | StringBlade: | nothing more |
| [22:09:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: let say You Are watching channel 3 on tv , can You watch different channel on pc? |
| [22:09:00] | phillip37: | bye everynody i am going to try and fine out some more information about my problem ok bye |
| [22:09:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: assuming your TV and PC have separate receivers, yes – otherwise no |
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| [22:09:00] | StringBlade: | phillip37: good luck |
| [22:09:00] | StringBlade: | damn |
| [22:10:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: the satellite receiver must do the tuning, not your tuner card |
| [22:10:00] | StringBlade: | same with a STB for digital cable |
| [22:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: oh i got that |
| [22:11:00] | StringBlade: | so in order to change the channel with myth, you'll need an IR blaster to send the change channel command to the receiver |
| [22:11:00] | StringBlade: | otherwise you'll need to change the channel yourself on the receiver |
| [22:11:00] | zamboni: | or a remote control in hand |
| [22:11:00] | LinuxMafia: | thanks for info |
| [22:11:00] | ** zamboni is still working on his blaster ** | |
| [22:11:00] | zamboni: | have been for months |
| [22:11:00] | amax: | what about the serial connection some cable / satellite boxes have? |
| [22:12:00] | zamboni: | what about them? |
| [22:12:00] | gr8nash-home (~basketoju@24-53-230-214.losaca.adelphia.net) Quit () | |
| [22:12:00] | amax: | can you control the box through it? |
| [22:12:00] | zamboni: | some have depends |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | some boxes, depends on if the provider disables them or not |
| [22:12:00] | zamboni: | for ex there was someone who wrote a yutil to control a pansat 300 series |
| [22:13:00] | zamboni: | but it was a homebrew project and I cant find the url |
| [22:13:00] | amax: | :/ |
| [22:13:00] | zamboni: | Id like to get my dsr4200 working for american pbs |
| [22:13:00] | zamboni: | on kuband |
| [22:13:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Are you building your own blaster? |
| [22:13:00] | zamboni: | slowly |
| [22:14:00] | zamboni: | parts Im scabbing from junked stuff |
| [22:14:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Do you have some other way to control your box? |
| [22:14:00] | zamboni: | hand remote |
| [22:14:00] | flouger: | anyone have problems getting xmame to launch? |
| [22:14:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Do you use MythTV with that setup? |
| [22:15:00] | zamboni: | yes myth is just a slave to the box |
| [22:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Yikes. |
| [22:15:00] | zamboni: | takes in the svideo |
| [22:15:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Why don't you buy one? |
| [22:15:00] | zamboni: | Yikes? |
| [22:15:00] | zamboni: | buy what ? |
| [22:15:00] | zamboni: | an lirc blaster? |
| [22:15:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: I have the MyBlaster serial – works great. |
| [22:15:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Yes. |
| [22:15:00] | zamboni: | ho much? |
| [22:15:00] | flouger: | how much do those ir things cost |
| [22:16:00] | zamboni: | $$ |
| [22:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Hold on a sec, let me check. |
| [22:16:00] | amax: | url? :) |
| [22:16:00] | zamboni: | serial portis on my machine are in short supply |
| [22:16:00] | zamboni: | so a usb model would be cool |
| [22:16:00] | NightMonkey: | http://www.mytvstore.com/product_id_004.html |
| [22:16:00] | zamboni: | ohho |
| [22:17:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Oh, well, USB support isn't as good, I believe. |
| [22:17:00] | amax: | 40 bucks is not bad, is it? :) |
| [22:17:00] | zamboni: | too xpensive for my tastes |
| [22:17:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: They reccomend getting a USB->serial converter. |
| [22:17:00] | zamboni: | that Ii can do |
| [22:17:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Wow, you won't trade months of work for $40? |
| [22:17:00] | zamboni: | but w xchange and taxes its pushing 65 bux CAD |
| [22:18:00] | zamboni: | Im unemployed |
| [22:18:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Sorry, man. |
| [22:18:00] | zamboni: | so Im doing whatever I can n the cheap |
| [22:18:00] | zamboni: | Im not |
| [22:18:00] | zamboni: | sorry |
| [22:18:00] | amax: | zamboni: the CAD is strong... its more like 60! :D |
| [22:18:00] | zamboni: | I like Bohemia |
| [22:18:00] | zamboni: | yeah okay 60 is still high |
| [22:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | hi zamboni |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | all I need to do iis buckle down aand get thje parts |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | and sloder away |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | sloder |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | solder |
| [22:19:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Hmm... they have it in stock in their Toronto store – is it still that high a price there? |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | sorry |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | maybe not |
| [22:19:00] | NightMonkey: | What'll the parts and solder cost you? |
| [22:19:00] | zamboni: | Im in Montreeal |
| [22:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | zamboni: Are you looking to use this to send out IR signals or receive/both ? |
| [22:20:00] | zamboni: | prolly about 15 bucks |
| [22:20:00] | zamboni: | Id like both |
| [22:20:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Yes, and Toronto is in Canada, too ;) . |
| [22:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause to just make something to send out costs $10-$15 of radio shack parts and 15 minutes with a soldering iron |
| [22:20:00] | zamboni: | there ya go |
| [22:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Well, to each their own way. |
| [22:21:00] | zamboni: | ratShack here nolonger exists as such and doesent have the ir led I need |
| [22:21:00] | zamboni: | so its gotyta come from diggikey or mouser |
| [22:21:00] | LinuxMafia: | ohhhhhhh God same error i got |
| [22:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I bought parts for 2 when I made one. Costs a total of $20CAD. I don't even use it heh |
| [22:21:00] | NightMonkey: | An error from God? |
| [22:21:00] | NightMonkey: | Or God got the same error? |
| [22:21:00] | zamboni: | GreyFoxx where are you In Canada? |
| [22:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Halifax |
| [22:22:00] | zamboni: | Ayw |
| [22:22:00] | zamboni: | aye |
| [22:22:00] | NightMonkey: | Wow, God uses MythTV. |
| [22:22:00] | zamboni: | but tinkers with freevo |
| [22:22:00] | NightMonkey: | Better get those patches in soon. |
| [22:22:00] | NightMonkey: | Or there's a fierce judgement a-comin'. |
| [22:23:00] | zamboni: | my local ratShack has got diddly wehr nit comes to electronics |
| [22:23:00] | StringBlade: | yup, mine too |
| [22:23:00] | zamboni: | and even the major electronic suplliesers here in mTL look at me funny when I ask them for the emmeter dioed |
| [22:23:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: So, what's the problem? |
| [22:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | zamboni: Yeah, they all got rid of most of that stuff. You need to order them from the website. most have simple stuff like ir leds and such |
| [22:23:00] | StringBlade: | and the diddly they have is expensive |
| [22:24:00] | zamboni: | hmm Ill consider looking but you do know the us parent shut down the Canadian rat Shack |
| [22:24:00] | zamboni: | shut down |
| [22:24:00] | StringBlade: | NightMonkey: you can't use the USB MyBlaster with linux |
| [22:24:00] | StringBlade: | the drivers are proprietary |
| [22:24:00] | StringBlade: | and there aren't any for linux |
| [22:24:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Right. That's why they say, if you must use USB, get the Serial version and use a USB->Serial converter. |
| [22:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | zamboni: uhhhh when was this: I was in Radio shack last night and everything "appearred" normal |
| [22:25:00] | StringBlade: | right |
| [22:25:00] | zamboni: | yeah then ya gota get lirc to speak usb |
| [22:25:00] | StringBlade: | well if lirc spoke Hauppauge, I'd already have blaster |
| [22:25:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [22:25:00] | zamboni: | it was a news item a while back hang on |
| [22:25:00] | StringBlade: | and I wouldn't have had to buy the extra MyBlaster |
| [22:25:00] | zamboni: | mee too |
| [22:26:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: Um, I don't think so. Let me look at my script. |
| [22:26:00] | NightMonkey: | zamboni: I don't think the script they provide cares about LIRC. It talks directly – but let me check. |
| [22:26:00] | StringBlade: | fwiw, I seem to recall hearing something about RadioShack in the news |
| [22:26:00] | zamboni: | GreyFoxx http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/200 . . . -050324.html |
| [22:27:00] | zamboni: | NightMonkey bring it on! |
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| [22:27:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Yeah, it doesn't use lirc. It uses a standard serial port to issue commands. |
| [22:28:00] | StringBlade: | oh, right |
| [22:28:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: So, a USB->Serial converter, with the proper Linux drivers, will create a serial /dev entry, which the provided channel changing script will use. |
| [22:28:00] | StringBlade: | you mean the Serial -> USB? |
| [22:28:00] | zamboni: | yeah |
| [22:29:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: The USB device that provides serial ports. |
| [22:29:00] | StringBlade: | my only complaint with the MyBlaster is they built a black housing with a black power cord and a beige serial cable! |
| [22:29:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: That's poor, yes. |
| [22:30:00] | zamboni: | biege to match atypical case and black to disappear |
| [22:30:00] | StringBlade: | maybe |
| [22:30:00] | StringBlade: | except the beige sticks out like a sore thumb on the black housing |
| [22:30:00] | zamboni: | lol |
| [22:30:00] | StringBlade: | and it would plug into the back of the beige case, so who cares what color it is |
| [22:30:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: Could use a Magic Marker to color it black, or paint ;). |
| [22:30:00] | StringBlade: | lol |
| [22:30:00] | StringBlade: | yeah, like Meet The Parents |
| [22:31:00] | StringBlade: | just spray paint it |
| [22:31:00] | NightMonkey: | StringBlade: There you go. :) |
| [22:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: didnt wokr |
| [22:31:00] | LinuxMafia: | same error |
| [22:31:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: what's the error? |
| [22:31:00] | zamboni: | so no one here user nuvexport? man with noise reduction the programme just sith there and doesnet process a frame |
| [22:31:00] | zamboni: | sits |
| [22:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | 2005-04–10 12:47:23.079 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [22:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | Connection timed out. |
| [22:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| [22:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | in the setup program and set the proper IP address |
| [22:32:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Is the mythbackend running" |
| [22:32:00] | NightMonkey: | ? |
| [22:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes |
| [22:32:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: yes |
| [22:33:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: but it was running from b4 , i forgot to stop it |
| [22:33:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: "netstat -lnp| grep 6543" |
| [22:34:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Do you get anything from that? |
| [22:34:00] | StringBlade: | zamboni: Beirdo could help if he were here :/ |
| [22:34:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: And are you running the backend on the same box as the frontend? |
| [22:34:00] | zamboni: | yeah I think Im missing a lib |
| [22:34:00] | zamboni: | or an option setting somewhere |
| [22:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: yes they are same |
| [22:35:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: And the output from that command? |
| [22:35:00] | zamboni: | drum roll |
| [22:35:00] | StringBlade: | lol |
| [22:35:00] | NightMonkey: | ;) |
| [22:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: no |
| [22:35:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: So, it's not running... |
| [22:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: nothing |
| [22:35:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i just stopped it |
| [22:36:00] | StringBlade: | oh, I thought LinuxMafia was just being defiant |
| [22:36:00] | zamboni: | lol |
| [22:36:00] | LinuxMafia: | LouGh OuT LauD |
| [22:36:00] | StringBlade: | no netstat for you! |
| [22:36:00] | NightMonkey: | Wow. |
| [22:37:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, LinuxMafia, you shouldn't have that Nick... just teasing... |
| [22:37:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: is there awy to do mythsetup , like it is first time running it? |
| [22:37:00] | zamboni: | Thats the ld name of the linuxpackages.net crew |
| [22:37:00] | zamboni: | s/ls/old |
| [22:37:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: You mean clear the DB? |
| [22:37:00] | StringBlade: | zamboni: substitution failed |
| [22:38:00] | zamboni: | wa wa |
| [22:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: eactly |
| [22:38:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: how can i do that? |
| [22:38:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Yes, do this (wait until I say "done" to start): |
| [22:38:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: mysql -p {then enter your password} |
| [22:39:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: k |
| [22:39:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: drop database mythconverg; |
| [22:39:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: exit |
| [22:39:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: mythsetup |
| [22:39:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: You're done. |
| [22:40:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: You are removing the entire database, so if you had something in it you'd like to preserve.... |
| [22:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | thanks alot |
| [22:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | o i didnt have |
| [22:40:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: np ;) |
| [22:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | no i did not have |
| [22:40:00] | LinuxMafia: | but i wonder soemthing |
| [22:40:00] | NightMonkey: | Man, twice today I've had the perverse pleasure of telling people to delete their entire myth DB. |
| [22:41:00] | NightMonkey: | And they actually did it! >:) |
| [22:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | when i do mythsetup |
| [22:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | database configuration comesup |
| [22:41:00] | StringBlade: | NightMonkey: today – mySQL; tomorrow – the WORLD! |
| [22:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | how can i do the wake-on-lan one |
| [22:41:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: which version of MythTV are you running? |
| [22:41:00] | amax: | NightMonkey: ive seen people deleting their whole HD because someone suggested it... :| |
| [22:42:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: What do you mean, "do"? |
| [22:42:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: I'm not that evil. |
| [22:42:00] | amax: | :) |
| [22:42:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: there are two options |
| [22:42:00] | LinuxMafia: | first one is |
| [22:42:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: However, that can be the proper response to some questions ;). |
| [22:43:00] | LinuxMafia: | 1) use custom identifer for forntend preference |
| [22:43:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: Some people need their lessons delivered with force... |
| [22:43:00] | amax: | NightMonkey, they do. |
| [22:43:00] | zamboni: | LinuxMafia thats there for when your card and MoBo support it |
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| [22:44:00] | daved: | is it currently possible to get hd signal into mythtv from directv? |
| [22:44:00] | NightMonkey: | amax: I'm the one to give those kind of lessons, though, beacuse I dislike paying lawyers... |
| [22:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | 2)use Wake-on-Lan to wake database |
| [22:44:00] | amax: | :) |
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| [22:44:00] | StringBlade: | daved: no |
| [22:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: how can i use the second one |
| [22:44:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Are you familliar with WOL? |
| [22:44:00] | StringBlade: | HDTV from anything but OTA is not possible |
| [22:44:00] | StringBlade: | even in windows |
| [22:44:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: not at all |
| [22:45:00] | amax: | LinuxMafia, is your mythTV working? |
| [22:45:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: You need a NIC that supports it, and a BIOS that does, as well. |
| [22:45:00] | LinuxMafia: | amax: no |
| [22:45:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: for first one what i have to use as idnetifer |
| [22:45:00] | amax: | LinuxMafia, then why bother with advanced settings? |
| [22:45:00] | LinuxMafia: | identifer* |
| [22:45:00] | LinuxMafia: | amax: i have to chose one of them , no? |
| [22:46:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN |
| [22:46:00] | amax: | LinuxMafia, why don't you leave whatever is there as a default? |
| [22:46:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: I'm with amax. Why make life hard? |
| [22:46:00] | amax: | everything has a default |
| [22:46:00] | amax: | leave it as it is, and if it doesnt work, then muck with it... |
| [22:46:00] | amax: | as some people say, if it aint broke, don't fuck with it |
| [22:46:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Get it working, then tweak later. |
| [22:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | amax: i do but it returns to same place |
| [22:47:00] | amax: | then leave it LinuxMafia |
| [22:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | amax: but i get error |
| [22:47:00] | ** amax sighs ** | |
| [22:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | Unknown database 'mythconverg' |
| [22:47:00] | LinuxMafia: | let me paste it is paste site |
| [22:47:00] | amax: | and you are confident a WOL setting is messing up your database |
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| [22:48:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Really, you need to follow the docs. |
| [22:48:00] | amax: | ooh, another vancouverite |
| [22:48:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: And I mean the mythtv.org docs. |
| [22:48:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: you've dropped your database table, remember? You need to go back to the step that creates the database and continue from there |
| [22:48:00] | amax: | LinuxMafia, yes, read the docs... I did that two days ago, and I have my mythTV box working. :D |
| [22:49:00] | LinuxMafia: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/mCjKmK43.html |
| [22:49:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i am doing that i sware |
| [22:49:00] | zamboni: | {helps to habe a little linux knowhow} |
| [22:49:00] | zamboni: | s/habe/have |
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| [22:49:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade oh |
| [22:50:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: let me go backk and check again |
| [22:50:00] | amax: | linux, have you seen: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [22:50:00] | daved: | StringBlade: what's the problem part of the non-ota hdtv equation? |
| [22:50:00] | amax: | grrr... LinuxMafia , check that link! |
| [22:51:00] | daved: | bandwidth? |
| [22:51:00] | zamboni: | daved what sort of output does the dtv ird have for HD? |
| [22:51:00] | StringBlade: | daved: encryption |
| [22:51:00] | zamboni: | componet(3) |
| [22:51:00] | daved: | StringBlade: not true.. i can just tap into the component outs of my satellite receiver |
| [22:51:00] | zamboni: | yeah but if yu have a sub and a component out |
| [22:52:00] | ** amax is out for a while.... good luck guys. ** | |
| [22:52:00] | daved: | StringBlade: so if i have a receiver that decrypts and gives me component outs i can do it? |
| [22:52:00] | zamboni: | Id say so |
| [22:52:00] | StringBlade: | daved: perhaps, I don't really see why not |
| [22:52:00] | StringBlade: | I thought you were asking if an HD signal could be tuned |
| [22:52:00] | zamboni: | just need the apropriate card in the box |
| [22:52:00] | daved: | StringBlade: are there cards that will take just a pure component in? |
| [22:52:00] | daved: | that's really what i was asking |
| [22:53:00] | StringBlade: | I haven't seen component in, no |
| [22:53:00] | StringBlade: | but then again |
| [22:53:00] | StringBlade: | I haven't looked for it |
| [22:53:00] | daved: | yeah me neither |
| [22:53:00] | daved: | was hoping someone here had |
| [22:53:00] | LinuxMafia: | amax: i am doing this -->http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#MySQL |
| [22:53:00] | StringBlade: | the only HDTV cards I know of are pcHDTV and another card for Windows |
| [22:53:00] | LinuxMafia: | amax: and i read it 5 times already |
| [22:54:00] | zamboni: | Linuxmafis It might be better to expand your reading a little --other docs |
| [22:54:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia have you re-created your DB tables yet? it should be something like: mysql < mc.sql |
| [22:54:00] | zamboni: | or put it all down for a day get some sleep and try again |
| [22:54:00] | zamboni: | later |
| [22:54:00] | zamboni: | that often works for me |
| [22:55:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: yes |
| [22:55:00] | LinuxMafia: | it llooks better now |
| [22:56:00] | ** zamboni would like a 4:2:2 decoder card of some ilk for fta sports ** | |
| [22:56:00] | StringBlade: | so now you can verify your settings in mythtv-setup |
| [22:56:00] | StringBlade: | and then run the backend and run mythfilldatabase |
| [22:56:00] | zamboni: | and 4:2:2 net backhauls |
| [22:56:00] | StringBlade: | there really shouldn't be much for you to do in mythtv-setup because you've already defined your input source and your video source right? |
| [22:57:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes StringBlade ii did this mysql -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [22:57:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: just to be safe, better restart your backend |
| [22:57:00] | StringBlade: | then run mythfilldatabase |
| [22:57:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: i did zap it |
| [22:58:00] | StringBlade: | when that's done running, try to start the frontend |
| [22:58:00] | metusine: | mmm |
| [22:58:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: should i start backend befor mythfilldatabase? |
| [22:58:00] | LinuxMafia: | in docs it is after |
| [22:58:00] | metusine: | myth can be a pain when you setting it up for the first time |
| [22:58:00] | StringBlade: | before |
| [22:58:00] | mishehu: | it would be really nice if myth didn't need OSS sound support. |
| [22:58:00] | LinuxMafia: | metusine: yes really it is painful |
| [22:58:00] | metusine: | still, you learn more this way =) |
| [22:59:00] | visit0r: | mishehu: it doesn't |
| [22:59:00] | metusine: | mishehu: it doesn't |
| [22:59:00] | visit0r: | :) |
| [22:59:00] | metusine: | heh |
| [22:59:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [22:59:00] | mishehu: | visit0r: it segfaulted and told me not to disable OSS support unless I'm not running on Linux. |
| [22:59:00] | StringBlade: | yeah mishehu: I'm using ALSA |
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| [22:59:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: so i stop the mythfilldatabase? |
| [22:59:00] | metusine: | i think you need a recentish version though |
| [22:59:00] | StringBlade: | meh |
| [22:59:00] | metusine: | isn't .18 due out shorttly? |
| [22:59:00] | mishehu: | cvs from a couple days ago... |
| [22:59:00] | StringBlade: | you can if you want if it takes a really long time |
| [22:59:00] | metusine: | mishehu: you should be sweed |
| [23:00:00] | metusine: | mishehu: you should be sweet |
| [23:00:00] | metusine: | have you got alsa going outside myth? |
| [23:00:00] | metusine: | have you set myth to use alsa? |
| [23:00:00] | StringBlade: | mishehu: are you using digital out? |
| [23:00:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: last time it gave me error at the end , said it can not connect the backend |
| [23:00:00] | StringBlade: | from your sound card |
| [23:00:00] | StringBlade: | right |
| [23:00:00] | metusine: | have you got you sound levels turned up? |
| [23:00:00] | StringBlade: | LinuxMafia: that's why the backend has to be running first |
| [23:00:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Have you tried KnoppMyth? |
| [23:01:00] | LinuxMafia: | StringBlade: last time i think it was running firts |
| [23:01:00] | mishehu: | StringBlade: nope. |
| [23:01:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: no |
| [23:01:00] | StringBlade: | mishehu: then the ALSA asoundrc file is very simple |
| [23:01:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Lotta people like it, and it doesn't require as much tweaking to just get running, or so I hear. |
| [23:02:00] | mishehu: | StringBlade: myth only gives me options of /dev/dsp, /dev/adsp, /dev/sound/dsp, and /dev/sound/adsp under its setup... |
| [23:02:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: is it nice? |
| [23:02:00] | visit0r: | mishehu: ALSA: spdif works for me |
| [23:02:00] | metusine: | mishehu: you need to type it in manuaally |
| [23:02:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: http://mysettopbox.tv/ |
| [23:02:00] | StringBlade: | /dev/dsp is what you'll use |
| [23:02:00] | metusine: | ALSA:defualt is what i use |
| [23:02:00] | StringBlade: | but it will be ALSA |
| [23:02:00] | StringBlade: | or |
| [23:02:00] | StringBlade: | you can use metusine's setting |
| [23:02:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [23:02:00] | visit0r: | metusine: have you compiled the ALSA support? |
| [23:03:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: And it looks like its been recently updated, as a bonus. |
| [23:03:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: thansk takking a look |
| [23:03:00] | StringBlade: | here's a ridiculously simple .asoundrc file: http://pastebin.com/269406 |
| [23:03:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: It might help you "cut through the crap" of setup. It's not without some configuration, but it get's the basics out of the way. |
| [23:04:00] | mishehu: | metusine: what alsa device do you have it set for? |
| [23:04:00] | mishehu: | there's a few pcm devices in /dev/snd, and I don't remember what is for what purpose. |
| [23:04:00] | metusine: | i didn't need to do anything other than ALSA:default |
| [23:04:00] | mishehu: | ah |
| [23:04:00] | mishehu: | I'll try that. |
| [23:04:00] | metusine: | but i have only the one soundcard i think |
| [23:05:00] | metusine: | they really should fix that |
| [23:05:00] | metusine: | or at least |
| [23:05:00] | StringBlade: | here's a great guide for digital ALSA sound: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/DigitalSoundHowTo |
| [23:05:00] | metusine: | make ppl read the documentation :p |
| [23:05:00] | beavis_ (~beavis@p54A7831A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit ("Verlassend") | |
| [23:06:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: is it only for knopix? |
| [23:06:00] | mishehu: | ALSA:default doesn't work. blah. time to read stringblade's link. |
| [23:06:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: cause i dont have it on portage |
| [23:08:00] | NightMonkey: | ... |
| [23:08:00] | NightMonkey: | geez. |
| [23:08:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: It's not Gentoo. |
| [23:09:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i use gentoo |
| [23:09:00] | StringBlade: | ok all, see you later gotta run |
| [23:09:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: It's its own bootable CD Debian/MythTV knoppix-like distribution. |
| [23:09:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: but i really want to get this mythtv working |
| [23:09:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Well, do you care more about the distro, or getting MythTV working? |
| [23:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i dont want to reboot every time i want to record |
| [23:10:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: I don't think they require that. |
| [23:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: xawtv is working |
| [23:10:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Oh, you don't have a dedicated MythTV box. |
| [23:10:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: no , i have a pc |
| [23:11:00] | LinuxMafia: | only one |
| [23:11:00] | NightMonkey: | lol |
| [23:11:00] | LinuxMafia: | :P |
| [23:11:00] | NightMonkey: | OK. Well, then, that's not what you want. |
| [23:11:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: i am behind a router though |
| [23:11:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: OK. Well, then, that's not what you want. |
| [23:12:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Me too. So? |
| [23:12:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: We are all behind a router. Probably several. ;) |
| [23:12:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: yes |
| [23:13:00] | LinuxMafia: | i dont know why it can not connect the backend |
| [23:13:00] | LinuxMafia: | do i have to configure the frontend too? |
| [23:13:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Argh. Is. It. Running? |
| [23:14:00] | LinuxMafia: | no |
| [23:14:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: What does "netstat -lnp| grep 6543" say? |
| [23:14:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: If it is not running, then nothing else will work. |
| [23:14:00] | LinuxMafia: | i was doing mythfilldatabase |
| [23:14:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: mythbackend is the core component of MythTV. |
| [23:14:00] | LinuxMafia: | it gave me error at the end |
| [23:15:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: What error? |
| [23:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | 2005-04–10 13:29:22.518 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [23:15:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Oh, if it's the error I'm thinkging of, it doesn't matter. |
| [23:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| [23:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | in the setup program and set the proper IP address. |
| [23:15:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: It is expected – because you are only filling the database, and mythbackend indeed isn't running. |
| [23:15:00] | LinuxMafia: | backend dose not running |
| [23:16:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes |
| [23:16:00] | LinuxMafia: | now i have to run the backend |
| [23:16:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: So, just move on in your setup. |
| [23:16:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Follow the docs again. |
| [23:17:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: frontend comes up |
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| [23:17:00] | LinuxMafia: | now i have to clcik whatch tv? |
| [23:18:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Sounds good to me? |
| [23:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | no setup? |
| [23:18:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Of what? |
| [23:18:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Did you already do all the other setps? |
| [23:18:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Try it! |
| [23:18:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes |
| [23:19:00] | LinuxMafia: | but i have not configure the frontend |
| [23:19:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: I don't think you have to. |
| [23:19:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: You can tweak the settings later, if you want. |
| [23:19:00] | LinuxMafia: | wow |
| [23:19:00] | LinuxMafia: | wow |
| [23:19:00] | LinuxMafia: | something difernt |
| [23:20:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: I don't remember having to do anything much to mythfronted. But, I changed insignificant things later (skins, font, etc.) |
| [23:20:00] | LinuxMafia: | i here |
| [23:20:00] | zamboni: | and obey |
| [23:20:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: i here, too! |
| [23:20:00] | LinuxMafia: | i hear something |
| [23:20:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Hopefully from your TV. |
| [23:20:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes |
| [23:20:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Or PC. |
| [23:21:00] | LinuxMafia: | i have to change to vido-s |
| [23:21:00] | LinuxMafia: | how can i do that |
| [23:21:00] | LinuxMafia: | ? |
| [23:21:00] | zamboni: | the c key |
| [23:22:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: thanks |
| [23:23:00] | LinuxMafia: | it does not change |
| [23:24:00] | zamboni: | that means you probably did not bind the svideo outpuyt to aywhere |
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| [23:24:00] | zamboni: | svideo input |
| [23:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: sorry |
| [23:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | not s-vide |
| [23:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | not s-video and not tv |
| [23:24:00] | LinuxMafia: | the other one |
| [23:24:00] | zamboni: | composite? |
| [23:25:00] | zamboni: | the c key toggles between availanle inputs |
| [23:25:00] | LinuxMafia: | yes yes |
| [23:25:00] | zamboni: | available |
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| [23:26:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: i remeber there is some place that i can chane i |
| [23:26:00] | LinuxMafia: | change the default |
| [23:26:00] | zamboni: | go for it |
| [23:27:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: is it in mythsetup? |
| [23:27:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Bingo. |
| [23:28:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: cool , kill the front end ,kill the backend , mythsetup , and , backend , fronted? |
| [23:28:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: Looks right to me. |
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| [23:29:00] | zamboni: | mythsetup indeed it is under input connections |
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| [23:30:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: NightMonkey Be RiGhT BaCk for a sec + thansk so much |
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| [23:32:00] | zamboni: | good luck LinuxMafia |
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| [23:39:00] | flouger: | hmm where do i state where the audio is coming in at |
| [23:39:00] | mishehu: | I set up .asoundrc in my user dir, containing: pcm.nForce2 { type hw card 0 |
| [23:40:00] | mishehu: | } pcm.nForce2 { type hw card 0 } |
| [23:40:00] | mishehu: | and set myth to use ALSA:default as the sound device. it still segfaults complaining that it can't access the sound device. |
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| [23:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: thanks |
| [23:41:00] | LinuxMafia: | zamboni: i had to start mythfill |
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| [23:41:00] | flouger: | eh |
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| [23:44:00] | flouger: | how do i get mythtv to use my mic as the input |
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| [23:47:00] | NightMonkey: | LinuxMafia: np ;) (sorry, in another channel) |
| [23:48:00] | LinuxMafia: | NightMonkey: np too :P |
| [23:49:00] | NightMonkey: | flouger: You want to do kareoke over your favorite shows? |
| [23:49:00] | NightMonkey: | flouger: ;) |
| [23:51:00] | flouger: | my tvwonderpro card |
| [23:51:00] | flouger: | has a audio out that i hear sound out off |
| [23:51:00] | flouger: | and i dont get any otherwise from the card |
| [23:53:00] | flouger: | o well im gona go eat |
| [23:53:00] | flouger: | bbl |
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