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[00:36:00] lavid: i'm a little fuzzy about the pcHDTV 3000, i know this isn't exactly a support forum for it but does anyone know if it can recieve regular analog cable? i've read things that say it has a NTSC tuner but i haven't really figured out if it will let me watch just regular ol' comedy central
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[00:38:00] Geckofiend: yes it will. but myth doesn't have any way of knowing your two tuners are really one so it can casue issues
[00:39:00] lavid: good, cause i'm using a SFF case and 1 pci is all i got, as for the 'issues' is there some place that will walk through the setup so i can get old tv and hd?
[00:39:00] fryfrog: http://fryfrog.com/gallery/ResistorSex
[00:40:00] fryfrog: someone pointed me to those in a forum and i thought they were so funny i needed to preserve them :)
[00:40:00] lavid: hahahahaaa!
[00:42:00] ** Randall64 wonder wtf is wrong with his dns **
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[00:43:00] fryfrog: who's dns?
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[00:44:00] Randall64: I'm sure you've met him.
[00:45:00] poser: I have been having a problem with mythfrontend on a remote machine.. I get the error when running as a user but while root it is fine: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[00:46:00] poser: is there a problem with permissions when I run as a user? the user mythtv is on the backend machine
[00:46:00] mishehu: poser: that's a mysql error
[00:46:00] mishehu: mysql user access to a database has nothing to do with what's in /etc/passwd
[00:47:00] mishehu: appearantly you must have configured something under root that you didn't configure under the user...
[00:47:00] fryfrog: poser: that could be a few things, could you describe your backend / frontend layout?
[00:47:00] fryfrog: do you have a backend and multiple frontends?
[00:48:00] poser: well I use the backend as a frontend also..
[00:48:00] poser: yeah.. I use my computer as a frontend sometimes
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[00:48:00] fryfrog: so when you setup your backend, what ip did you point it to in mythsetup?
[00:48:00] fryfrog: "localhost" or its real ip?
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[00:49:00] poser: the real ip I believe
[00:49:00] fryfrog: k, thats good
[00:49:00] fryfrog: i think you just need to check the host mask for your mysql user
[00:49:00] fryfrog: pop on as root "mysql -u root -p mysql"
[00:49:00] poser: fryfrog: I've upgraded mythtv since then though
[00:50:00] fryfrog: then do umm, "select user,host from users;" i think?
[00:50:00] fryfrog: i suck at mysql, usually use phpmyadmin :)
[00:50:00] fryfrog: your mythtv user is probably (in mysql) "mythtv@localhost"
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[00:52:00] poser: the thing is that I had it working before I switched distros.. but it still works on remote machine as root
[00:52:00] fryfrog: what is the host portion of your mysql mythtv user?
[00:52:00] fryfrog: is it "mythtv@<ip here>" or is it "mythtv@localhost"
[00:52:00] poser: I'm not sure waht you mean?
[00:53:00] fryfrog: mysql stores its users in its own db
[00:53:00] poser: on which machine?
[00:53:00] fryfrog: the one running mysql
[00:53:00] fryfrog: only one of them should be, probably your backend
[00:53:00] poser: well.. the error says mythtv@localhost
[00:53:00] poser: let me see
[00:55:00] poser: do you mean in the mysql.txt file?
[00:55:00] poser: of the mythtv dir?
[00:56:00] fryfrog: no
[00:56:00] fryfrog: IN MYSQL
[00:56:00] fryfrog: for like the 8th time :p
[00:56:00] fryfrog: "mysql -u root -p mysql"
[00:56:00] poser: yeah.. I thought so but I don't really now how to do the query
[00:56:00] fryfrog: then try "show tables;"
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[00:56:00] fryfrog: then i think "select * from <usertable>;"
[00:56:00] fryfrog: that'll show you way to much info, i think you want to see "user" and "host"
[00:57:00] fryfrog: so "select user,host from <usertable>;"
[00:57:00] fryfrog: i forget what the user table is, but it'll be obvious from "show tables;"
[00:57:00] Randall64: mythconverg is the db
[00:58:00] fryfrog: right, but that's not where mysql's user tables are
[00:58:00] fryfrog: they are in the "mysql" db
[00:58:00] poser: alright.. I got the stuff
[00:58:00] Randall64: ahh, I should pay attention
[00:58:00] fryfrog: so what does it say for host for the mysql users?
[00:58:00] fryfrog: in mine, i have one for "localhost" and one for "10.0.1.%"
[00:58:00] poser: they are all localhost except a % for mythtv but there is also ones for localhost
[00:59:00] poser: and another for mythtv at 10.0.1.%
[00:59:00] fryfrog: okay, thats good
[00:59:00] fryfrog: so, now which system are you unable to log onto mysql remotly from?
[00:59:00] fryfrog: the local machine running hte backend, or your other computer?
[00:59:00] poser: the other computer as frontend
[01:00:00] fryfrog: okay, on the other computer try "mysql -u root -p -h <ip of backend> mythconverg"
[01:00:00] fryfrog: i think you've already said that works
[01:01:00] poser: access denied.. but I can run mythfrontend as root
[01:02:00] Randall64: Is creating ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt a new feature in 0.17?
[01:02:00] poser: when I said that I had that file.. I meant in the /usr/share/mythtv
[01:02:00] Randall64: Whatever is in ~/.mythtv will override the system mysql.txt, fwiw.
[01:03:00] Randall64: Which can be annoying if you didn't realize it was there.
[01:03:00] poser: ok.. it works now
[01:03:00] fryfrog: someone said there was a fix for the being off an hour in the mailing lists?
[01:03:00] poser: I had no idea that one existed or even overrided the other one in /usr/sahre
[01:04:00] poser: thanks fryfrog for the help and Randall
[01:04:00] Randall64: fryfrog isn't responsible for me!
[01:04:00] fryfrog: ahahah
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[01:04:00] fryfrog: you're welcome for Randall64 :)
[01:04:00] Randall64: I'm a person too!
[01:05:00] fryfrog: did someone say there was an issue with myth and being off by 1 hour?
[01:05:00] fryfrog: my date is right on the pc, and the time is right in the listings but the programs are shifted back an hour
[01:05:00] Randall64: fryfrog: downgrading Qt is easiest I think, but you can go to cvs myth too
[01:05:00] fryfrog: i'm on cvs myth now
[01:05:00] fryfrog: from yesterday
[01:05:00] fryfrog: should i just update to todays?
[01:05:00] Randall64: I should really get mythtv running again.
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[01:18:00] fryfrog: does anyone know if mythtv-0.17-qt334-dst-fix.patch is in recent cvs?
[01:18:00] fryfrog: already?
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[01:28:00] Beirdo: I think so
[01:28:00] Beirdo: read the commits list archives
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[01:28:00] Beirdo: time for me to go the hell home :)
[01:28:00] Beirdo: and work on nuvtools again
[01:35:00] defaultro: fryfrog, what does that patch fixes?
[01:36:00] fryfrog: ah, commits list good idea ;)
[01:36:00] fryfrog: aparantly it fixes some time offset issues
[01:36:00] fryfrog: my EPG and recordings were starting 1 hour early
[01:36:00] defaultro: Beirdo, someone told me this morning that the fix to the cracky audio on the latest cvs is to set the recording to TS
[01:36:00] fryfrog: but the clock is right
[01:36:00] defaultro: ok
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[01:36:00] Beirdo: meh
[01:36:00] xris: yay. mythtv trac.  :)
[01:37:00] Beirdo: heh
[01:37:00] defaultro: hi xris
[01:37:00] Beirdo: unofficial of course
[01:37:00] xris: heya
[01:37:00] defaultro: what do you mean?
[01:37:00] xris: of course.
[01:37:00] defaultro: what is a mythtv trac?
[01:37:00] xris: http://svn.wilsonet.com/projects/mythtv/
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[01:37:00] xris: jarod set up an example server.
[01:37:00] defaultro: so do you agree with the TS solution?
[01:37:00] daved_: my mythtv has been screwed up since the timechange, what do i need to do?
[01:37:00] Beirdo: and way not up to date
[01:38:00] Beirdo: daved_: read the FAQ
[01:38:00] defaultro: i wish Test Director was free
[01:38:00] ** xris goes to play outside for awhile. **
[01:39:00] ** defaultro tries to reinstall the latest cvs and use TS recording **
[01:40:00] Mrgoose: anyone found a solution to keep mpeg2 in sync after cutting commercials?
[01:41:00] daved_: Beirdo, rather than patching mythtv can i just upgrade to cvslatest?
[01:41:00] Beirdo: yes
[01:41:00] Beirdo: AFAIK, that should do it
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[01:47:00] wswanson: anyone on today that is doing atsc qam over cable?
[01:48:00] Mrgoose: anyone found a solution to keep mpeg2 in sync after cutting commercials?
[01:48:00] Beirdo: why don't you just ask a third time, maybe you'll be back in Kansas
[01:51:00] wswanson: beirdo; I updated your wiki today — native (linux kernel) support exists for pchdtv starting 2.6.12rc1 last month — up to rc2 now... but I am still figuring out this azap, fe_has_lock jargon....
[01:51:00] Beirdo: 2.6.12rc1 isn't exactly... stable from what I heard.
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[01:51:00] Beirdo: well done, BTW
[01:51:00] wswanson: even so, what a pain in the arse... especially if you want atsc over cable qam....
[01:52:00] wswanson: so far rc2 has been up for about 12 hours — let's see if it stays up without a lock.  ;)
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[02:01:00] GotD0t: is there any explanation as to why my mp3s would sound really distorted coming through mythtv but i dont hear the distortion with other audio sources (downloaded movies, tv recordings, tv playback, etc)
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[02:05:00] NightMonkey: daved_: Wow, help direct someone to the right place, and get called a dick. Awesome.
[02:06:00] defaultro: hey guys, how do I make mythfrontend to become the top window? I want it to be on top of the KDE taskbar
[02:06:00] GotD0t: ?
[02:06:00] defaultro: or how do we disable KDE taskbar?
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[02:09:00] Beirdo: by not using KDE would be the smartest way
[02:10:00] defaultro: yeah, i used blackbox
[02:10:00] defaultro: now, what file should i modify so that it start my irexec?
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[02:10:00] cold_boot: hello
[02:10:00] GotD0t: hi
[02:10:00] defaultro: I used autostart something in kde
[02:11:00] Beirdo: .Xsession, I think
[02:11:00] cold_boot: i'm having some problems with my listings from zap2it
[02:11:00] Beirdo: read the FAQ
[02:11:00] cold_boot: its seems they don't have the correct offset for daylight savings time
[02:11:00] Beirdo: read the FAQ
[02:11:00] defaultro: cool
[02:14:00] wswanson: perhaps a stupid question — what is us-cable-hrc over standard us-cable --- ?
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[02:17:00] GotD0t: is there any explanation as to why my mp3s would sound really distorted coming through mythtv but i dont hear the distortion with other audio sources (downloaded movies, tv recordings, tv playback, etc)
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[02:32:00] LittleWashu: Did you guys have to emerge ivtv to install mythtv?
[02:33:00] Beirdo: GotD0t try turning down your volume
[02:33:00] cold_boot: depends on your tv tuner
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[02:34:00] LittleWashu: hummm, what if it's a pixelview
[02:35:00] GotD0t: Beirdo: but why would the volume cause the problem, because if i grab the sound off my mp3 player and go through the same stereo system as my myth box it doesnt cause the distortion
[02:35:00] GotD0t: and the mp3s are exactly the same on my mp3 player as on my hard disk
[02:36:00] cold_boot: ok how do i set an offset for my timezone in mythsetup?
[02:37:00] fryfrog: ivtv is mainly for the pvr250 and 350 cards
[02:37:00] fryfrog: you'd prolly need to know more than just the brand to figure out what drivers it uses
[02:38:00] fryfrog: cold_boot: is your epg and stuff off by one hour?
[02:42:00] cold_boot: yeah
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[02:46:00] fryfrog: i just had to deal with it
[02:46:00] cold_boot: how?
[02:46:00] fryfrog: stopped mythbakcend, cleared programs table, upgraded to latest cvs, started mythbackend, ran mythfilldb
[02:47:00] fryfrog: i think there is also a patch you can apply to standard 0.17 release
[02:47:00] fryfrog: but i couldn't find it and i already use cvs anyway
[02:47:00] cold_boot: this is kind of a major oversite
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[02:56:00] slePP: has anyone found that mythtv crashes a lot with -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer as compile options?
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[03:01:00] cold_boot: no
[03:01:00] ** Tommck_ is excited because he ordered his PVR-500 today **
[03:02:00] rpete: I'd like to know if the tuners are any improvement over the 250
[03:02:00] rpete: probably not noticably, is my guess though
[03:02:00] Tommck_: rpete – no idea
[03:02:00] rpete: what are you using now?
[03:03:00] fryfrog: how is pvr 150 and 500 support now?
[03:03:00] Tommck_: 2 pcHDTV 3000s
[03:03:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – it sounds like it's good.
[03:03:00] rpete: heh, downgrade then
[03:03:00] Tommck_: jarod wilson has 150s and 500s working...
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[03:03:00] Tommck_: rpete – downgrade?
[03:03:00] Tommck_: my friend just got his 150 working with Myth yesterday..
[03:03:00] Tommck_: I think the ivtv gjys have done their job nicely
[03:03:00] rpete: just kidding, I'm sure you'll have them all going at once
[03:04:00] Tommck_: rpete – yeah... 2 HD OTA & 2 DirecTV :)
[03:04:00] ** Tommck_ is going to be watching LOTS of TV :) **
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[03:05:00] rpete: I rarely have to resolve conflicts with single tuner, so I guess pvr500 wouldn't help much
[03:05:00] defaultro: hey guys, anyone experiences this in livetv, sound goes away when you change to another channel. Then once you exit watching and hit watch tv again, you will now get sound
[03:05:00] defaultro: hi Tommck
[03:05:00] Tommck_: rpete – you're not watching enough TV then :)
[03:05:00] Tommck_: hey Delemas
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[03:05:00] Tommck_: oops.. hey defaultro :)
[03:05:00] defaultro: huh
[03:05:00] defaultro: :)
[03:05:00] Tommck_: defaultro – I have the same prob with live TV
[03:05:00] defaultro: oh ok
[03:06:00] defaultro: rpete, were you the one who told me about changing PS to TS?
[03:06:00] defaultro: this morning?
[03:06:00] Tommck_: my friend told me that he fixed that by switching to straight ALSA sound instead of the OSS wrappers for it
[03:06:00] rpete: no, not me
[03:06:00] defaultro: oh ok
[03:06:00] defaultro: Tommck, cool
[03:06:00] defaultro: how do we do that?
[03:06:00] Tommck_: defaultro – he said his sound card setting is "ALSA: default" now and it works fine.
[03:06:00] Tommck_: inside the front end setup.
[03:06:00] defaultro: oh ok
[03:07:00] defaultro: we then have to setup asoundrc file
[03:07:00] Tommck_: for some reason, mine doesn't have that listed, even though I have ALSA support
[03:07:00] Tommck_: defaultro – I guess... dunno
[03:07:00] defaultro: oh, you have to create it manually
[03:07:00] Tommck_: oh?
[03:07:00] defaultro: yeah
[03:07:00] Tommck_: This project never ends :)
[03:07:00] defaultro: :)
[03:08:00] Tommck_: there are SOOO many things I need to do for this thing...
[03:08:00] defaultro: it just a simple text file that you put in ~/
[03:08:00] Tommck_: I think my wife's jealous of the Myth boxes :)
[03:08:00] defaultro: should be hidden type too
[03:08:00] defaultro: lol
[03:08:00] defaultro: .asoundrc
[03:09:00] Tommck_: defaultro – got any links on how this is set up?
[03:09:00] defaultro: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/asoundrc.txt
[03:09:00] defaultro: but i saw a site which has better explanation
[03:09:00] Tommck_: figures jarod's site would have something :)
[03:09:00] defaultro: i'll have to search for it again
[03:09:00] Tommck_: cool
[03:09:00] defaultro: i found it in mythtv.info
[03:10:00] defaultro: http://home.comcast.net/~alf_park/mythtv.html
[03:10:00] fryfrog: sounds like there was some drama recently on the myth mailling lists :)
[03:10:00] Tommck_: fry - ?
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[03:11:00] defaultro: i have to order the SPDIF cable soon
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[03:12:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – to what are you referring?
[03:12:00] defaultro: or should I just by the audigy card?
[03:12:00] Tommck_: defaultro – what do you have now?
[03:13:00] defaultro: builtin AC97
[03:13:00] defaultro: from nforce3 board
[03:13:00] Tommck_: ah.
[03:13:00] defaultro: why?
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[03:13:00] Tommck_: I'm using a Chaintech AV-710 with optical S/PDIF
[03:13:00] defaultro: pci card?
[03:13:00] fryfrog: that guy who wanted to fork so that he could make branches with svn?
[03:13:00] Tommck_: defaultro – was wondering why you'd buy something else if you already have s/pdif
[03:13:00] Tommck_: defaultro – yeah.. cheap too
[03:13:00] defaultro: ok
[03:13:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – ah :)
[03:13:00] fryfrog: but it looks like jarod is going to help with branches?
[03:14:00] defaultro: it has spdif support but i just don't have the connector
[03:14:00] Tommck_: defaultro – it was $26
[03:14:00] defaultro: ok
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[03:14:00] fryfrog: to tell you the truth, i've always hated how cvs was more often stable than the real releases
[03:14:00] defaultro: the connector im buying has the coax and optical out
[03:14:00] phillip37: hi anybody here using a visionplus tv card at all
[03:14:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – yeah. I'm with you on that.
[03:14:00] defaultro: fryfrog, i agree
[03:14:00] defaultro: that's why im using cvs
[03:14:00] Tommck_: I was psyched that 0.17 was releasing, but it was much worse than CVS pre-release
[03:14:00] fryfrog: me too :)
[03:15:00] defaultro: however, march 29 cvs is a little problematic
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[03:15:00] fryfrog: yeah, i had a nice stable cvs about 1 month before .17
[03:15:00] defaultro: glad i found a work around for hd issue
[03:15:00] fryfrog: shoulda stuck with it prolly
[03:15:00] defaultro: FOX channel was so choppy
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[03:15:00] fryfrog: i'm getting backend seg faults :(
[03:15:00] defaultro: then someone this morning to change PS to TS
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[03:15:00] Tommck_: yeah... ever since I upgraded to 0.17 and all the CVS after, I get the audio blowout on channel change thing defaultro was talking about.
[03:15:00] defaultro: and now FOX is fine
[03:16:00] defaultro: yeah
[03:16:00] defaultro: :(
[03:16:00] Tommck_: it's a minor nuisance, since I don't watch things live much
[03:16:00] fryfrog: PS to TS?
[03:16:00] Tommck_: If I wanna watch it live, I watch it right off the antenna
[03:16:00] defaultro: and I don't know if developers sees our post in mythtv-users
[03:16:00] fryfrog: oh, MPEG TS?
[03:16:00] defaultro: yeah
[03:16:00] defaultro: TS
[03:16:00] defaultro: that fixed the choppiness
[03:16:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – no idea what those are... watching pcHDTV 3000 cards
[03:16:00] fryfrog: i think i'll switch to that when i get home :)
[03:16:00] ** KarlosII_ taunts people in ecitement of gettings his 7mb dowload upgrade from his Cable ISP. :) **
[03:16:00] defaultro: it fixed it
[03:17:00] defaultro: the guy that told me got it from the dvb mailing list
[03:17:00] ** Tommck_ slaps KarlosII_ for even _having_ a cable modem :) **
[03:17:00] defaultro: from a dvb developer
[03:17:00] KarlosII_: haha
[03:17:00] defaultro: so there is something wrong with the dvb code in mytht
[03:17:00] KarlosII_: DOCSIS 2.0 rulz
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[03:19:00] defaultro: Tommck, http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/DigitalSoundHowTo
[03:20:00] defaultro: but im still confuse on how to get the right value for PCM HW:0,2......
[03:20:00] fryfrog: where do you change to MPEG TS?
[03:20:00] fryfrog: in recording profiles?
[03:20:00] defaultro: run myth-setup
[03:20:00] fryfrog: or under mythsetup hardware tuners?
[03:20:00] defaultro: number 2
[03:20:00] defaultro: capture cards
[03:20:00] fryfrog: kk
[03:20:00] defaultro: stop backend first
[03:20:00] Mrgoose: anyone figured out how to keep mpeg2 in sync after cutting commercials?
[03:20:00] defaultro: then run setup
[03:20:00] fryfrog: k
[03:21:00] defaultro: fry, familiar with asoundrc
[03:21:00] fryfrog: no :)
[03:21:00] defaultro: it's ok
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[03:21:00] fryfrog: alsa is my arch memisis
[03:21:00] fryfrog: if gentoo didn't have "alsaconf" i'd be screwed
[03:22:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – why is that just a gentoo thing?
[03:22:00] fryfrog: i dunno is it?
[03:22:00] Tommck_: I know Suse 9.1 doesn't have it
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[03:23:00] Tommck_: KarlosII_ – I don't even have cable
[03:23:00] rpete: fryfrog, stream type mpeg ts is in recording profiles
[03:23:00] Tommck_: fryfrog – I was wrong
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[03:24:00] ** KarlosII_ and shaw has just upgrade to 7mb **
[03:25:00] Tommck_: KarlosII_ – I would beat a nun to death with the spine of a baby seal for Comcast's signal
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[03:28:00] Beirdo: WTF?
[03:29:00] Beirdo: how did 684 end up in my channel list...
[03:29:00] Tommck_: Beirdo - ?
[03:29:00] Beirdo: on analog cable?
[03:29:00] Tommck_: hehe..
[03:29:00] Tommck_: I got channel 2002 in my DirecTV list :)
[03:29:00] Beirdo: good for you
[03:29:00] Beirdo: analog cable only goes to 125 :)
[03:29:00] ** Tommck_ feels the love **
[03:29:00] Beirdo: or something like that :)
[03:30:00] Tommck_: Beirdo – DirecTV only goes to the 900s... that is TWO THOUSAND TWO
[03:30:00] Beirdo: uh huh
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[03:30:00] Beirdo: GODDAMNED ZAP2IT!
[03:31:00] Beirdo: I have the digital cable lineup in as well but only the analog part
[03:31:00] Beirdo: as channel 6 sucks shit on one of my tuners
[03:31:00] Beirdo: they re-added all the digital channels to the lineup
[03:31:00] Beirdo: this will take a while to fix
[03:31:00] Beirdo: bastards
[03:32:00] Tommck_: Beirdo – they've readded channels to my DirectTV a bunch of times too. I don't know why they're doing that.. probably a bug
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[03:34:00] Beirdo: I think I know why
[03:34:00] fryfrog: Where was MPEG TS/PS in mythtv-setup?
[03:34:00] Beirdo: Rogers redid the lineup
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[03:35:00] Tommck_: ah
[03:35:00] Beirdo: now I have to clean this shit up
[03:35:00] Tommck_: fun fun
[03:36:00] Tommck_: anyway... I'm outta here... have fun Beirdo
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[03:37:00] LittleWashu: do you guys have to reactivate zap2it?
[03:38:00] Beirdo: you have to renew it if that's what you are asking
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[03:40:00] fryfrog: anyone have time to poke through myth menus to tell me where you flip from MPEG TS to MPEG PS is? I'm trying to do it remotly with my gf and its not working so well :)
[03:40:00] fryfrog: is it un settings of FE, under recording profiles?
[03:40:00] awb4422: When I try to play dvd's, I get an error related to not having rights to /dev/hda (my dvd drive). This used to work actually, but it stopped recently. Any ideas as to what I can do to give rights to my user?
[03:40:00] tetsuo__: Has anybody here had any luck with a PVR-150?
[03:40:00] awb4422: My user is in the cdrom and disks group btw..
[03:40:00] fryfrog: i thought it was in mythtv-setup, option 2 on a card
[03:41:00] Beirdo: yes, in recording profiles
[03:41:00] fryfrog: ah, recording profiles
[03:41:00] fryfrog: kk, lemme get her in there :)
[03:43:00] tetsuo__: when i do a 'lspci' all i get is: Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder
[03:43:00] tetsuo__: is this correct?
[03:43:00] fryfrog: yah, looks like a pvr 250?
[03:43:00] fryfrog: or is that a 150?
[03:43:00] tetsuo__: it's a 150
[03:43:00] tetsuo__: but i can't get the video to work for the life of me
[03:43:00] fryfrog: you using ivtv 0.3 line?
[03:44:00] tetsuo__: not sure. how do i check?
[03:44:00] fryfrog: "modinfo ivtv"
[03:44:00] fryfrog: you would have compiled ivtv 0.3.x if you have it, so you almost certainly don't
[03:46:00] tetsuo__: yea, i had video and sound working on my wintv-go-plus, and i thought this upgrade would be seemless
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[03:47:00] tetsuo__: it's acutally a 150, is this going to cause problems?
[03:47:00] fryfrog: the 150 and 500 are like, alpha supported by ivtv's alpha line 0.3.something
[03:47:00] fryfrog: the pvr 250/350 is what has "aokay" support
[03:48:00] fryfrog: search google for "ckennedy ivtv" and try his 0.3.x (latest dev) branch
[03:53:00] tetsuo__: yea, i went to buy the 250, but the store didn't have any. so i just bought this one.
[03:55:00] defaultro: do we need to restart mythfrontend if we create a new asoundrc file?
[03:55:00] defaultro: s/create/created/
[03:56:00] rpete: seems likely
[03:56:00] defaultro: ok
[03:56:00] rpete: or not
[03:57:00] fryfrog: if you have to restart anything for asoundrc, i'd have thought it'd be alsa
[03:57:00] fryfrog: but it might be a good idea to restart the FE too
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[03:58:00] rpete: the driver doesn't read it, the library should
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[04:00:00] defaultro: hey guys, this worked, aplay -D analog english.au
[04:01:00] defaultro: however, ALSA:analog didn't worked, any clues?
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[04:15:00] tetsuo__: fryfrog, when i run "ivtvfwextract.pl" should i run that against the pvr250?
[04:15:00] tetsuo__: i downloaded the pvr150*.exe, and the script didn't like that
[04:16:00] fryfrog: what do his docs say?
[04:16:00] fryfrog: i don't have a 150, so i udnno
[04:16:00] fryfrog: you can send me yours :)
[04:18:00] tetsuo__: yea, i'm having a hard time finding docs on the 150
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[06:11:00] rootymacknoob: hey fellas
[06:12:00] rootymacknoob: can anyone suggest a good card to use with myhttv for wide screen godo quality output.
[06:12:00] rpete: widescreen meaning htdv?
[06:12:00] rootymacknoob: well hdtv and dvb standard
[06:12:00] rpete: and you're talking about output only?
[06:12:00] rootymacknoob: some channels are htdv
[06:12:00] rootymacknoob: yeah
[06:13:00] rootymacknoob: ive got a dvb card already that works with mythtv
[06:13:00] rootymacknoob: but i want to use output to my tv with high quality, and currently my geforce quality isnt good.
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[06:13:00] rootymacknoob: i've got a matrox g550 but i cant seem to get it to work with mythtv.
[06:13:00] rootymacknoob: works with vdr though nicely.
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[06:15:00] rootymacknoob: followed some of those mythtv qt-embedded howtos a while ago, but couldnt get anything past the myth screen to play on the tv.
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[06:19:00] rootymacknoob: any suggestions ?
[06:20:00] ** rpete waits for someone with actual hdtv to speak up **
[06:24:00] rpete: well, come back during business hours :-)
[06:24:00] rootymacknoob: hehe
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[06:39:00] Beirdo: gah, too many damn parameters for ffmpeg encoding :)
[06:39:00] rootymacknoob: pfft, what has ffmpeg done for you latley
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[06:44:00] Uberbot: Hi all.
[06:44:00] Uberbot: I'm thinking about storing my myth database on a remote server (that gets backed up)
[06:45:00] Uberbot: All I have to do is modify /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt right?
[06:45:00] Uberbot: If so, how do I encrypt the dbpassword?
[06:46:00] kormoc: I don't think you do
[06:46:00] Uberbot: So, what value do I use?
[06:46:00] Agrajag-: you can't
[06:46:00] kormoc: the password
[06:46:00] Agrajag-: you should tunnel the connection via ssh or something
[06:46:00] Uberbot: In plaintext?
[06:46:00] Agrajag-: yeah
[06:47:00] Uberbot: I own the network, so that's not a concerfn.
[06:47:00] Uberbot: Sounds like a plan to me.
[06:47:00] Uberbot: Thanx.
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[06:51:00] tetsuo__: what can i do about my picture being off center? i see a 1" gap on the top and on the left
[06:51:00] xris: holy crap. color svideo on my pvr-150
[06:53:00] xris: apparently I have to reboot after compiling/installing the driver.
[06:54:00] defaultro: xris, it's working now?
[06:54:00] xris: apparently
[06:55:00] defaultro: bam
[06:55:00] defaultro: i have the fox channel 32 fixed now on latest cvs
[06:55:00] defaultro: i changed the setting from PS to TS
[06:55:00] defaultro: and it fixed the very choppy audio
[06:56:00] defaultro: however, changing channels in livetv, sometimes, I don't get sound until I quit and livetv again
[06:56:00] defaultro: any ideas about that?
[06:56:00] defaultro: Tommck is also experiencing the same issues
[06:59:00] xris: ooh, and mythtv works with it on livetv
[07:00:00] defaultro: huh
[07:01:00] xris: I guess this means that I need to take some time and upgrade my mythbox.
[07:02:00] xris: blech.. but w00t!
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: defaultro: is this with dvb? my mum told me about sometimes not getting sounds until quit/rewatch
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: i didn't believe her because i've never seen it
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[07:05:00] Agrajag-: maybe she was right
[07:06:00] defaultro: dvb, yep
[07:07:00] defaultro: using the latest cvs
[07:07:00] defaultro: but i have already experience this before even with the old cvs
[07:07:00] defaultro: but not as bad as today
[07:08:00] defaultro: and also, i don't know why i have to change recording from PS to TS to fix a choppy channel
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: yeah im on .17
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: when you changed that – do you get a really long delay when starting to watch livetv?
[07:08:00] defaultro: yeah
[07:08:00] defaultro: takes about 6 seconds
[07:08:00] defaultro: :(
[07:08:00] defaultro: sometimes longer
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: yeah.. i got that too, so changed it back
[07:09:00] defaultro: change back what? version?
[07:09:00] Agrajag-: no, back to PS
[07:09:00] defaultro: oh
[07:09:00] defaultro: it's already taking long even if it was in PS
[07:09:00] defaultro: sometimes 4 seconds
[07:09:00] Agrajag-: oh ok.. there's that other setting.. open the card on demand instead of all the time
[07:09:00] Agrajag-: that made it faster for me too
[07:10:00] defaultro: ah
[07:10:00] defaultro: i've seen that
[07:10:00] lotia: folks at a reasonably high bitrate using a pvr-500 card, what kind of capacity would i get from a 300gb hd?
[07:10:00] defaultro: where is it again
[07:10:00] Agrajag-: as in.. dont open it on demand.. open it all the time
[07:10:00] defaultro: it's not checked iirc
[07:10:00] Agrajag-: in the setup
[07:10:00] Agrajag-: as in mythsetup or whatever it's called now
[07:10:00] defaultro: ok
[07:10:00] defaultro: so default is what?
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: i think to have it open all the time
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: i changed it to open it on demand so other apps could use dvb card when myth wasn't watching livetv/recording. but that made it slower to watch livetv, so i chagned it back
[07:12:00] defaultro: oh so then, i don't need to change anything
[07:13:00] defaultro: what hd capture are u using?
[07:13:00] fryfrog: defaultro: watching recordings takes a long time for me too
[07:13:00] fryfrog: defaultro: is yours set to use libmpeg2 ?
[07:13:00] fryfrog: (or ffmpeg)?
[07:14:00] fryfrog: i was using libmpeg2 and it would sometimes take 30–60 seconds to play
[07:14:00] fryfrog: i switched back to ffmpeg and it was up to 5–10
[07:14:00] fryfrog: of course, mplayer opens em instantly so i don't get wtf is wrong
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[07:20:00] tetsuo__: what can i do about my picture being off center? i see a 1" gap on the top and on the left
[07:21:00] lotia: is 4gb/hr about right for a pvr-250 capturing at high quality
[07:22:00] fryfrog: 2G is prolly closer
[07:22:00] fryfrog: mine is about 2.2G i think
[07:22:00] lotia: thanks fryfrog
[07:23:00] fryfrog: there may be little point turning the quality up for plain old cable
[07:23:00] fryfrog: you could probably transcode that 2.2G down to 1G if you liked
[07:23:00] fryfrog: (to atchive shows)
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[07:23:00] defaultr0: did you guys get disconnected too?
[07:24:00] lotia: fryfog: does transcoding result in any quality loss.
[07:24:00] defaultr0: fryfrog, did you see my message earlier?
[07:24:00] fryfrog: of course it does :)
[07:24:00] fryfrog: defaultr0: i may have missed it, what'd you say?
[07:24:00] fryfrog: i'm pretty sure i missed it
[07:24:00] defaultr0: about delay when playing recording
[07:24:00] fryfrog: ah, no i didn't see it
[07:24:00] fryfrog: did you see MINE?
[07:25:00] defaultr0: i mentioned that i don;t experience any delay when playing a recorded program
[07:25:00] defaultr0: however, i experience it during livetv
[07:25:00] defaultr0: i didn't see yours
[07:25:00] fryfrog: lotia: all lossless encoding loses more information the more you encode it. my cable quality coming in is pretty shitty, so i wouldn't really notice it i dont think
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[07:25:00] fryfrog: defaultr0: what speed cpu?
[07:25:00] defaultr0: am 3000+ athlon
[07:25:00] fryfrog: :/
[07:25:00] defaultr0: ?
[07:25:00] fryfrog: mines just a lowly 1600+
[07:25:00] lotia: fryfrog: do you mean lossy?
[07:25:00] defaultr0: oh ok
[07:25:00] fryfrog: i press enter and see black for about 5–10 seconds
[07:26:00] fryfrog: yes, sorry that was retarded :)
[07:26:00] fryfrog: lossy :)
[07:26:00] defaultr0: oh no, that's a lag
[07:26:00] defaultr0: i see mine within 2 seconds
[07:26:00] fryfrog: ah
[07:26:00] fryfrog: with libmpeg2 or ffmpeg?
[07:26:00] defaultr0: both
[07:26:00] defaultr0: any
[07:26:00] fryfrog: same amount for both?
[07:26:00] defaultr0: yep
[07:26:00] fryfrog: libmpeg was WAY longer for me
[07:26:00] defaultr0: but livetv, takes 4 to 6 seconds
[07:27:00] fryfrog: i guess i should watch cpu usage while i do it, but its annoying
[07:27:00] fryfrog: cause mplayer can play the .nuv files with 0 delay/lag
[07:27:00] defaultr0: do it on an ssh session
[07:27:00] defaultr0: ah
[07:27:00] defaultr0: so mythtv issue
[07:27:00] fryfrog: oh, no i didn't mean seeing the usage was annoying
[07:27:00] fryfrog: i meant that the delay/lag was annoying :)
[07:27:00] defaultr0: ok
[07:27:00] defaultr0: sure it is
[07:27:00] fryfrog: and it only started about a month before .17
[07:28:00] defaultr0: ok
[07:28:00] fryfrog: i hate how you have to use cvs to get a "stable" working copy of myth :p
[07:28:00] defaultr0: mpeg library
[07:28:00] defaultr0: i hear yah
[07:28:00] defaultr0: well, there's so much that needs to be done in myth
[07:28:00] tetsuo__: is there a setting where i could scale my picture. it seems like my new ivtv module doesn't put the picture in the right spot
[07:28:00] defaultr0: glad it's working though
[07:28:00] fryfrog: tetsuo__: what version of ivtv?
[07:28:00] defaultr0: we'll just have to thanks the folks
[07:29:00] tetsuo__: 0.3.3
[07:29:00] defaultr0: my friend is using gbpvr
[07:29:00] defaultr0: i don't know if it's stable
[07:29:00] fryfrog: i only see 0.3.2u?
[07:29:00] fryfrog: nother opensource pvr?
[07:29:00] defaultr0: i think so but for Windows
[07:29:00] tetsuo__: actually your right. i got the wrong version it:0.2.0-rc3g
[07:29:00] fryfrog: oh, bah for winblows
[07:30:00] defaultr0: :)
[07:30:00] defaultr0: my friend got it in very small hours
[07:30:00] fryfrog: tetsuo__: the 150 and 500 really run best under the 0.3.2 line
[07:30:00] defaultr0: fry, what capture card do you use again?
[07:30:00] fryfrog: Is this project open source? No sorry. GB-PVR supports open interfaces, but for now the core engine code is not publically available.
[07:30:00] fryfrog: pvr250
[07:30:00] defaultr0: oh ok
[07:31:00] defaultr0: ok
[07:31:00] defaultr0: the core engine prolly might have been stolen from mythtv
[07:31:00] defaultr0: lol
[07:31:00] fryfrog: i doubt it
[07:31:00] Beirdo: I don't
[07:32:00] defaultr0: :)
[07:32:00] defaultr0: how's your nuvtools doing Beirdo?
[07:33:00] tetsuo__: fryfrog: same thing
[07:33:00] fryfrog: i wonder how one would prove it either way, i have to admit they look pretty similar
[07:33:00] fryfrog: tetsuo__: what is the same thing?
[07:33:00] Beirdo: it's going
[07:33:00] ** defaultr0 just finished sniffing his mitsubishi tv remote via lirc :) **
[07:33:00] defaultr0: cool
[07:34:00] defaultr0: i've added UT2004 and AmericanArmy in button 1 and 2 of my remote :)
[07:34:00] fryfrog: ahha
[07:35:00] tetsuo__: well, the picture is off center, and the color is horrible
[07:35:00] fryfrog: you switched to 0.3.2 alpha line of ivtv THAT quickly?
[07:35:00] tetsuo__: yes, i already had the source.
[07:35:00] fryfrog: you'd have to download it, compile it, rmmod
[07:35:00] fryfrog: oh
[07:35:00] tetsuo__: i just needed to compile it
[07:35:00] fryfrog: and "modinfo ivtv" reports 0.3.2u?
[07:36:00] tetsuo__: yes
[07:36:00] fryfrog: and you rmmod'd and modprobed ivtv?
[07:36:00] fryfrog: already?
[07:36:00] fryfrog: and not just ivtv, all the other modules like tveeprom and tuner and stuff?
[07:36:00] tetsuo__: no, i did just ivtv
[07:37:00] fryfrog: rmmod all the ivtv modules
[07:37:00] fryfrog: tuner, msp3400, tveeprom ummm
[07:37:00] fryfrog: there are a couple others, should see em in lsmod
[07:37:00] fryfrog: then pop off a 'dmesg -c' and then modprobe ivtv
[07:37:00] fryfrog: then re-run dmesg and put the output in pastebin for me to see :)
[07:37:00] tetsuo__: alright
[07:37:00] fryfrog: i've not seen a 150 get detected by the 0.3.2, so i'd like to see it :0
[07:38:00] tetsuo__: it actually initialised it as a 150, not a 250... which is a start
[07:38:00] tetsuo__: ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
[07:38:00] fryfrog: thats good
[07:38:00] fryfrog: was it seen as a 250 with the 0.2 line?
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[07:40:00] tetsuo__: yea, 0.2 saw it as a 250
[07:40:00] fryfrog: you might want to restart the backend
[07:40:00] fryfrog: actually, you might have wanted to stop the backend, do all the module claring/loading, then start it again :)
[07:40:00] fryfrog: i'm not sure how myth feels about having its video0 taken away while being up :)
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[07:47:00] defaultr0: hey fry, is it easy to configure myth with multiple capture cards?
[07:47:00] fryfrog: yah
[07:47:00] defaultr0: ok
[07:47:00] fryfrog: its almost the same as one capture card
[07:47:00] defaultr0: coz i only have 1 card right now
[07:47:00] fryfrog: just doing it more than one time :)
[07:47:00] fryfrog: what kind?
[07:47:00] defaultr0: air2pc
[07:47:00] fryfrog: gonna get a 2nd air2pc?
[07:47:00] defaultr0: you already have air2pc
[07:48:00] fryfrog: no
[07:48:00] fryfrog: i have 4x pvr 250s
[07:48:00] defaultr0: why 2nd?
[07:48:00] fryfrog: i was asking you what kind you already had
[07:48:00] fryfrog: not me :)
[07:48:00] defaultr0: oh
[07:48:00] defaultr0: lol
[07:48:00] defaultr0: no
[07:48:00] defaultr0: i'm planning to get either 150 or 500
[07:48:00] fryfrog: ah
[07:48:00] defaultr0: then setup another frontend in first floor
[07:48:00] defaultr0: that's gonna be for wifey
[07:48:00] fryfrog: with the extra card?
[07:48:00] defaultr0: :)
[07:49:00] fryfrog: or both cards in one backend?
[07:49:00] defaultr0: just nvidia
[07:49:00] defaultr0: all in the backend
[07:49:00] fryfrog: ah
[07:49:00] fryfrog: how much are the 150s now?
[07:49:00] defaultr0: $70
[07:49:00] fryfrog: nice
[07:49:00] fryfrog: do they work?
[07:49:00] defaultr0: are they stable now
[07:49:00] defaultr0: someone got it to work
[07:49:00] defaultr0: xris got it to work today
[07:50:00] fryfrog: ah
[07:50:00] defaultr0: im also thinking of buying a nice pc case
[07:50:00] fryfrog: maybe i should just sell you one of my pvr 250s :)
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[07:50:00] defaultr0: but i still couldnt accept the price amount of it
[07:50:00] defaultr0: how much?
[07:51:00] fryfrog: prolly like 70–80
[07:51:00] defaultr0: i'll think about it
[07:51:00] xris: defaultr0: "nice case" is $150
[07:51:00] fryfrog: i still owe my friend for one of em
[07:51:00] defaultr0: yeah xris
[07:51:00] defaultr0: :(
[07:51:00] fryfrog: he bought it but didn't need it, so if i sell one i'll just give him the money
[07:51:00] defaultr0: i like the silverstone
[07:51:00] fryfrog: i found a nice case i wanted
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[07:51:00] tetsuo__: fryfrog: http://www.pastebin.com/268748
[07:51:00] fryfrog: was $150 w/o powersupply
[07:51:00] defaultr0: what brand?
[07:52:00] fryfrog: chenbro?
[07:52:00] fryfrog: some no name
[07:52:00] defaultr0: ahanix are expensive too
[07:52:00] fryfrog: it was a "server" case though
[07:52:00] defaultr0: i want something that looks like my yamaha receiver
[07:52:00] fryfrog: had the perfect layout for cooling drives and mb
[07:52:00] xris: fryfrog: chenbro is the same as antec
[07:52:00] defaultr0: something that doesnt look like a pc
[07:52:00] fryfrog: ah, cool
[07:52:00] xris: well, used to be — antec may have started buying other cases now.
[07:52:00] xris: defaultr0: silverstone
[07:52:00] defaultr0: yup
[07:52:00] zissou: Hey, I'm hoping to get a little help on my mythtv install, anyone up for it?
[07:52:00] defaultr0: that's what im looking at
[07:52:00] fryfrog: it had 8 drive slots right in front of the motherboard area with 2 big fans pulling in tons of air
[07:52:00] xris: I want one of theirs, but $150 is a lot for me at the moment. and my pundit works so well
[07:52:00] defaultr0: but still couldnt justify their price
[07:53:00] defaultr0: me too
[07:53:00] ** xris loves his pundit **
[07:53:00] fryfrog: ivtv: Failed to load module cx25840
[07:53:00] defaultr0: how does it look like?
[07:53:00] fryfrog: ivtv: Failed to load module wm8775
[07:53:00] defaultr0: link
[07:53:00] fryfrog: could that be a problem tetsuo__ ?
[07:53:00] xris: defaultr0: first google link for "asus pundit"
[07:53:00] tetsuo__: well, i've never seen wm8775 loaded
[07:54:00] fryfrog: sounds like it doesn't exist
[07:54:00] fryfrog: "modinfo wm8775"
[07:54:00] fryfrog: i don't have a clue about what either of them are
[07:54:00] fryfrog: tuner: Unknown parameter `tuner'
[07:54:00] fryfrog: tuner: tuner type not set
[07:54:00] fryfrog: that doesn't look great either
[07:54:00] fryfrog: tuner: type already set to 2, ignoring request for 50
[07:54:00] fryfrog: are you hardcoding any values when you modprobe?
[07:55:00] zissou: I'm running debian testing on a 867mhz shuttle pc, and my problem is when i run mythtv-setup i get the menu screen and when i hit the "general" button my screen goes black
[07:56:00] tetsuo__: i don't know where the 50 is coming from, in my modules.d/ivtv file, i have it set to 43
[07:56:00] fryfrog: why ?
[07:56:00] fryfrog: remove the hard coding and let ivtv detect it
[07:57:00] fryfrog: tveeprom: tuner = TCL 2002N 6A (idx = 85, type = 50)
[07:57:00] fryfrog: ivtv and tveeprom think its a type 50, what are the chances you are right? I don't see it as likely that a type 43 would be on a new 150 when even new 250's tend to have type 48+
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[08:00:00] zissou: are there any special values you have to input in your XF86config when using your TV as the output other than setting the Horiz / Vert values?
[08:01:00] tetsuo__: fryfrog: i had read in some forums that the pvr150 uses the tuner type
[08:02:00] zissou: could this be why my display goes black when i run the mythtv-setup?
[08:02:00] fryfrog: tetsuo__: a 150 could have any tuner type on it, from like 1 all the way to 52
[08:02:00] fryfrog: zissou: make sure you have it set at a resolution your tv can take, probably 640x480 or 800x600
[08:02:00] fryfrog: also make sure its set at a fixed vert/horiz refresh rate i think (not sure on that)
[08:03:00] fryfrog: tetsuo__: so i would remove any hard coding you are doing for the module
[08:03:00] zissou: its at 800x600, ill give 640x480 a try
[08:03:00] fryfrog: including "Unknown parameter `mpg_buffers'"
[08:03:00] zissou: its strange cause X starts no problem
[08:03:00] fryfrog: zissou: does it work fine on a normal monitor?
[08:03:00] tetsuo__: fryfrog: yea, on the dev mailing lists, they say that the pvr uses the type 43: http://www.poptix.net/ivtv/current/msg00336.html
[08:04:00] zissou: ive tried mirroring the output to tv and monitor and both get blanked out
[08:04:00] fryfrog: what about JUST monitor (for now, for troubleshooting)
[08:04:00] fryfrog: If you load the cx25840
[08:04:00] fryfrog: module from the 0.3.2a driver you will be able to see video with
[08:04:00] fryfrog: tuner=47 (with a 2.6.10 kernel module) or tuner=43 (with the 0.3.2b
[08:04:00] fryfrog: tuner.ko — it doesn't have the tuner type 47 definition but tuner
[08:04:00] zissou: ill give that a try real quick
[08:04:00] fryfrog: type 43 is identical).
[08:04:00] fryfrog: or tuner=39
[08:05:00] fryfrog: looks like he goes through a pretty big range of possible tuner types
[08:05:00] fryfrog: sorry for ugly spam, didn't know it would CR
[08:05:00] fryfrog: i woul dnot hardcode the tuner type
[08:06:00] fryfrog: anyway, really w/o a 150 in front of me to goof around with i'm pretty much stuck at guesses, sorry :(
[08:06:00] tetsuo__: np
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[08:07:00] tetsuo__: well, it's time bed. thanks for the help fryfrog.
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[08:11:00] ** xris kicks that wild rooster who is crowing at midnight. **
[08:11:00] kormoc: heh
[08:12:00] ** kormoc ponders if xris would mind him having a fresh chicken dinner. **
[08:12:00] xris: actually, I offered it to Chris... "probably tastes good"
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[08:15:00] kormoc: hehe
[08:15:00] ** xris wonders why people in the city keep a rooster. **
[08:15:00] xris: or maybe that's why it's now wild and living in my backyard.
[08:33:00] kormoc: heh
[08:34:00] kormoc: someone tried to eat it so it ran off
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[08:41:00] Beirdo: target practise time
[08:41:00] Beirdo: cock-a-doodle-BANG!
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[08:42:00] kormoc: heh
[08:43:00] kormoc: and with that heh, I bid thee a good night
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[11:55:00] metusine: anyone here played much with mythmusic?
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[13:27:00] ProtocoLD: morning people...  :)
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[14:04:00] ikaro: hey
[14:08:00] ikaro: is there some other application to scan for channels, other than xmltv ?
[14:08:00] fatmatt: scan or scantv
[14:09:00] fatmatt: then theres tvtime
[14:09:00] ikaro: tvtime needs the bin drivers from nvidia /ati
[14:11:00] vagwini: np
[14:11:00] vagwini: sorry. wrong window.
[14:11:00] ikaro: so tvtime, xmltv and what else ?
[14:18:00] fatmatt: do you want to see the picture or just scan for frequencies?'
[14:18:00] fatmatt: is it a digital tuner card?
[14:21:00] ikaro: prv-350
[14:21:00] ikaro: tried tv_grab_dk but it fails: getting list of channels: Can't call method "content_list" on an undefined value at /usr/bin/tv_grab_dk line 558, <STDIN> line 1.
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[14:29:00] defaultr0: good morning guys
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[14:37:00] ikaro: gah
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[15:36:00] catphish: anyone know who i might talk to about dvb autotuning code
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[15:46:00] Beirdo: I have no DVB, I get to pass :)
[15:46:00] catphish: might not really be dvb i need
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[15:46:00] catphish: i want to do an autotune from a command line
[15:46:00] Beirdo: dunno
[15:50:00] catphish: im trying to create a plug n play myth box
[15:51:00] catphish: im almost there, except fot the rather vital part that it doesnt autotune
[15:52:00] catphish: g2g cya
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[15:58:00] Baylink: Captain_Murdoch: you said that transcode patch had been committed, right?
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[16:08:00] zamboni: so
[16:09:00] zamboni: is the mysql db stuff buggy?
[16:09:00] zamboni: I twiddled with NTSC/PAL settings back and forth and now I cant get a picture
[16:09:00] zamboni: I can do this easily in tvtime and xawtv
[16:10:00] zamboni: so what gives?
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[16:10:00] zamboni: something gets corrupt beyond repair it seems but is it a binary or some db settings or some xml file chokes
[16:10:00] GreyFoxx: MySQL merely stores the values you give it, it has nothing to do with tuning
[16:10:00] zamboni: yeah but
[16:10:00] zamboni: Im using svideo
[16:11:00] zamboni: ian as I said above ai can toggle back and forth with any othe rapp
[16:11:00] zamboni: app
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[16:11:00] zamboni: so the settings or someting in the bin files are getting mesed up or not prperly passed from the GUI
[16:11:00] Beirdo: "I was messing around and I broke something"
[16:12:00] GreyFoxx: I still don't see how you are connecting MySQL to that problem? Mysql is just storage. It's myth that sends the commands to the card to use NTSC or PAL
[16:12:00] zamboni: yes
[16:12:00] Beirdo: there ARE no settings in "bin files"
[16:12:00] Beirdo: it's all in MySQL
[16:12:00] zamboni: thats what I figured
[16:12:00] GreyFoxx: He probably is thinking of mysql's binary data files
[16:12:00] zamboni: no not at alll
[16:12:00] zamboni: well maybe
[16:12:00] GreyFoxx: zamboni: just use the mysql client to compare the setting from what you expect it to be
[16:12:00] Beirdo: for future reference... if you are gonna mess with settings, get a backup dump of your database first
[16:13:00] zamboni: good plan
[16:13:00] Beirdo: if it's hosed now, go into mythtv-setup and tell it to clear card data, set it up again
[16:13:00] Beirdo: that would be my plan of attack
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[16:13:00] zamboni: my point about is this is not to complain, just to comment on how fragile stuff appears to be
[16:14:00] zamboni: Berido did that and its all the same
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[16:14:00] defaultro: good morning guys, this is the first i've seen mythbackend doing this using the latest cvs
[16:14:00] defaultro: 2005-04–08 10:14:49.801 waiting for a thread..
[16:14:00] defaultro: 2005-04–08 10:14:49.810 waiting for a thread..
[16:14:00] zamboni: the famous log error is
[16:14:00] defaultro: then harddisk led continuously lit
[16:14:00] GreyFoxx: Zamboni what did you do to make the changed ?
[16:14:00] zamboni: VIDIOCMCAPTURE0: Invalid argument
[16:14:00] zamboni: VIDIOCMCAPTURE1: Invalid argument
[16:14:00] zamboni: I dont use a tuner on my card
[16:14:00] zamboni: its broken
[16:15:00] zamboni: si I have a STB boc pal capable
[16:15:00] zamboni: si I have a STB box pal capable
[16:15:00] zamboni: and I did pal mode it worked fine but now it wont work at all
[16:15:00] zamboni: when I tried to switch back to NTSC
[16:15:00] GreyFoxx: So, did you or did you not make this PAL/NTSC change within Mythtv. Or did you do it in the STB
[16:15:00] zamboni: yes back and forth
[16:16:00] zamboni: and back again to NTSC and thats where its broken
[16:16:00] GreyFoxx: It was not a yes or no question. Did you do it in myth or in the stb
[16:16:00] zamboni: both
[16:16:00] zamboni: box and myth
[16:16:00] GreyFoxx: ok
[16:16:00] GreyFoxx: and both are set to the same thing of course
[16:16:00] zamboni: example the ahrdware works fine
[16:16:00] zamboni: tvtome & companty like whateve Itell it
[16:17:00] zamboni: tctime
[16:17:00] zamboni: Ill get the fix but Imjsut wondering is it really that fragile
[16:17:00] zamboni: \=tvtime that is
[16:17:00] zamboni: ??
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[16:18:00] GreyFoxx: I'm stilling trying to figure out how you possibly linked this to a MySQL problem :) But the first thing you need to check is that Myth is attempting to use the correct values to pass down to the card
[16:18:00] zamboni: its so slock to look at tha UI I want to belive its' a ommercial grade product
[16:18:00] zamboni: Im not saying waht the problem is Im trowing out ideas
[16:18:00] zamboni: its not about rationality
[16:18:00] zamboni: or logic
[16:18:00] zamboni: more ==frustration
[16:19:00] zamboni: blather
[16:19:00] zamboni: sorry
[16:19:00] zamboni: <sigh>
[16:19:00] GreyFoxx: It's probably got nothing to do with fragility as much as a potention bug with what is being sent to the card. But your best bet is to check the DB and see what is set there so that you can see what myth thinks the card is
[16:20:00] zamboni: thanks
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[16:20:00] zamboni: I'll do that
[16:22:00] defaultro: hi Greyfoxx
[16:22:00] GreyFoxx: hello
[16:22:00] defaultro: I screwed up 1 channel. Now, I can't record nor see anything for it. What should I troubleshoot?
[16:22:00] GreyFoxx: unscrew up the channel ? :)
[16:22:00] defaultro: i do see the mapping from channel and dtv_multiplex table
[16:23:00] defaultro: :)
[16:24:00] GreyFoxx: What did you do to cause a problem ?
[16:24:00] defaultro: there were 2 entries
[16:25:00] defaultro: i deleted the wrong one
[16:25:00] defaultro: i did a dvb full scan again
[16:25:00] defaultro: but never helped
[16:25:00] GreyFoxx: rerun mythfilldatabase? Or drop all of the channel data and repopulate from scratch ?
[16:25:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
[16:25:00] defaultro: mythfilldatabase is fine
[16:25:00] defaultro: it's is showing the programs
[16:25:00] defaultro: but not the video
[16:25:00] GreyFoxx: all I can guess is to drop all channel data and start that from scratch
[16:26:00] defaultro: in the channel table?
[16:26:00] GreyFoxx: run mythsetup and wipe it. Keep the card settings but let it clear the channels
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[16:26:00] GreyFoxx: then rescan/mythfilldb
[16:26:00] defaultro: ok
[16:26:00] GreyFoxx: and mysqldump a copy of your database as a backup first :)
[16:26:00] defaultro: i'll back it up first
[16:26:00] defaultro: yep
[16:27:00] defaultro: i do remember that i have to populate xmltvids
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[16:27:00] defaultro: lol
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[16:27:00] GreyFoxx: Spamming asshole
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[16:28:00] defaultro: that's pathetic buisness
[16:28:00] GreyFoxx: and most businesses are :)
[16:28:00] defaultro: that kid needs money
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[16:36:00] Beirdo: reminde me to remove those later
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[16:38:00] CyberKnet: meh. leave them.
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[16:42:00] zamboni: so antyone reccomend a decent sql book? one that favours mysql?
[16:42:00] zamboni: anyone
[16:42:00] zamboni: ??
[16:42:00] defaultro: anyone when compiling mythdvd, dbcheck.o(.text+0x27f): In function `performActualUpdate(QString const*, QString, QString&)':
[16:42:00] zamboni: linler failure?
[16:43:00] zamboni: cant find a lib maybe
[16:43:00] defaultro: ok
[16:43:00] zamboni: maybe
[16:43:00] zamboni: whats before the bombout?
[16:43:00] defaultro: i hope not a qt incompatibility
[16:43:00] defaultro: g++ -o mtd logging.o mtd.o serversocket.o jobthread.o dvdprobe.o fileobs.o threadevents.o main.o dbcheck.o moc_logging.o moc_mtd.o moc_serversocket.o -L/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib -ldvdread -lmyth-0.17 -lqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread
[16:44:00] zamboni: hang on
[16:44:00] defaultro: thanks
[16:46:00] zamboni: so and theres no message about a missing header like some.h
[16:46:00] zamboni: ; no such file of directory
[16:47:00] zamboni: some.h being whatever header is missing
[16:47:00] zamboni: could bb the QT stuff
[16:48:00] defaultro: ok
[16:48:00] defaultro: let me see
[16:49:00] defaultro: http://www.pastebin.com/268868
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[16:53:00] zamboni: defaultro: never built that module but fwiw I;m using qt-3.3.2
[16:53:00] zamboni: which distro are you using?
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[16:57:00] defaultro: fedora
[16:57:00] defaultro: 3
[16:57:00] defaultro: i never had any issues with the other cvs
[16:58:00] defaultro: just now with the latest
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[16:58:00] defaultro: looks like i need a newer library
[16:58:00] defaultro: but if i do that, i may break other functionalities
[16:59:00] defaultro: ok, got to go now
[17:01:00] zamboni: god luck
[17:01:00] defaultro: btw
[17:01:00] defaultro: i installed mythweather and mythmusic, it's still not showing it
[17:01:00] zamboni: btw?
[17:02:00] defaultro: by the way :)
[17:02:00] zamboni: yeah
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[17:02:00] zamboni: hmm
[17:02:00] defaultro: all i did before is just install it and rerun mythfrontend and it gets shown
[17:02:00] zamboni: the web stuff is nice but it really drags down my system
[17:02:00] defaultro: but now with the latest
[17:02:00] defaultro: it doesn't show both
[17:02:00] zamboni: with the apache and mysql and the video
[17:02:00] zamboni: hmmm
[17:02:00] defaultro: video?
[17:03:00] defaultro: mine doesn't have video in mythweb
[17:03:00] zamboni: the capture card
[17:03:00] defaultro: how did you get that working
[17:03:00] zamboni: no Im just debating the worth of me intsalling
[17:03:00] zamboni: all the mythweb features
[17:03:00] defaultro: mythweb feature is nice
[17:03:00] zamboni: on a single doo all machine
[17:04:00] defaultro: ah ok, like mine here
[17:04:00] zamboni: yes the guide is slick
[17:04:00] defaultro: much easier to understand than the frontend
[17:04:00] zamboni: my athlon xp200 is reaching its limits
[17:04:00] zamboni: 2000
[17:04:00] defaultro: i can access it even if imin the office
[17:04:00] zamboni: as is my hard drive
[17:04:00] defaultro: you mean cpu
[17:04:00] zamboni: yep
[17:04:00] defaultro: my cpu is only at 37
[17:05:00] defaultro: while playing hd too
[17:05:00] defaultro: and goes to 42 if also recording hd
[17:05:00] defaultro: while watching too
[17:05:00] zamboni: temp is fine on mine in fact gcc stresses the temp a lot higher than myth does
[17:05:00] defaultro: 42 is mytemp
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[17:05:00] defaultro: so any ideas why mythweather doesnt get shown
[17:06:00] zamboni: nope
[17:06:00] defaultro: in the latest cvs?
[17:06:00] defaultro: oh ok
[17:06:00] zamboni: oh
[17:06:00] zamboni: wait
[17:06:00] zamboni: do ui get a blank page
[17:06:00] zamboni: ??
[17:06:00] defaultro: ?
[17:06:00] defaultro: what do you mean?
[17:06:00] zamboni: when you click on mythweather?
[17:06:00] defaultro: i don't even get there
[17:06:00] defaultro: mythweb does show it
[17:06:00] defaultro: though
[17:07:00] defaultro: but when i was using feb23 cvs, it was fine
[17:07:00] zamboni: when you click on the icon nothing happens?
[17:07:00] defaultro: mythmusic, mythweather was there
[17:07:00] defaultro: no, it's not there
[17:07:00] defaultro: there are no listing
[17:07:00] zamboni: any log errors?
[17:07:00] zamboni: hmm
[17:07:00] defaultro: iirc, it's under information center right?
[17:07:00] zamboni: a permission issue maybe
[17:07:00] zamboni: hang on
[17:08:00] defaultro: prolly not permission, it works with mythweb
[17:08:00] zamboni: mines broken until I get the listings reset
[17:08:00] zamboni: all is caos here today
[17:08:00] defaultro: :)
[17:09:00] defaultro: i don't think .18 should be release on monday
[17:09:00] defaultro: will be release ....
[17:09:00] zamboni: .18 being an update to myth?
[17:10:00] ** zamboni is unaware of anything new in the myth pipline **
[17:10:00] ** zamboni is unaware the myth pipline **
[17:10:00] defaultro: huh
[17:11:00] defaultro: prolly, you're not reading
[17:11:00] defaultro: :)
[17:11:00] defaultro: aight, im outa here
[17:11:00] zamboni: what is .18 yu refer to above?
[17:11:00] defaultro: mythtv .18
[17:11:00] defaultro: aight dude
[17:11:00] zamboni: Im reading but just not all about myth
[17:11:00] defaultro: got to go now
[17:11:00] zamboni: caio!
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[17:14:00] Beirdo: morning, Seattle
[17:14:00] Beirdo: :)
[17:14:00] xris: blech
[17:14:00] xris: I almost slept through my alarm. heh.
[17:14:00] kormoc: Mornin Canada.
[17:14:00] Beirdo: heh, I've slept through a few times
[17:14:00] Beirdo: and you went to bed around the same time as I did.
[17:14:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:15:00] xris: yes
[17:15:00] xris: I don't really know how you get along on such little sleep
[17:15:00] Beirdo: :)
[17:15:00] Beirdo: weekends
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[17:16:00] RDMustang: anyone know what would make it so that I can select any buttons on mythtv? I can navigate menus but any butts (such as when you try to quit it asks "No" or "Yes, Exit Now".. I press enter and nothing happens.. to quit I have to switch to a terminal session and kill the program
[17:16:00] RDMustang: can = can't
[17:16:00] kormoc: not sleeping at work inbetween irc chats?
[17:16:00] Beirdo: I sleep about 4–5 hours on weekdays
[17:16:00] Beirdo: and like 12–13 on weekends
[17:16:00] Beirdo: I think my mail server needs more RAM
[17:17:00] zamboni: Baaaaaaaaa
[17:17:00] kormoc: black sheep
[17:17:00] kormoc: oh wait, it's baa baa
[17:17:00] Beirdo: or if you're in Australia... baaaa baaaa BAAAA!
[17:19:00] zamboni: so no reccomendations of a good SQL book? from any of you wizards?
[17:19:00] xris: zamboni: depends on what you're doing.
[17:20:00] zamboni: mythtv maintenance
[17:20:00] zamboni: amd maybe some carreer options ;)
[17:20:00] kormoc: mysql.org's manual :P
[17:20:00] zamboni: yeah soesent seem so gentle though
[17:21:00] zamboni: doesent
[17:21:00] zamboni: Im a thick skulled siort
[17:21:00] zamboni: sort
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[17:22:00] Beirdo: zamboni: likely the O'Reilly book
[17:22:00] Beirdo: they have good books in general
[17:23:00] zamboni: hmmm yeah thats a thought
[17:23:00] zamboni: An Oreilly book and a pint o' Guniess
[17:24:00] ** kormoc recommends a case for what zamboni's getting into. **
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[17:26:00] zamboni: gee its only 1641 pages long
[17:26:00] zamboni: a beast
[17:26:00] zamboni: codex maximus
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[17:32:00] zamboni: well I got my picture back
[17:33:00] zamboni: thanks for the civil and steadying influnces folks
[17:33:00] zamboni: lunch calls
[17:33:00] zamboni: caio
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[17:36:00] cuqui: hi... i've two problems, both with lirc, the first when i select to view a movie with the remote control the movie plays in a background window, the active window remains the myth window
[17:37:00] cuqui: every one has an idea wath's happens
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[17:49:00] candc540: how yall doin today
[17:49:00] candc540: :P
[17:49:00] candc540: it's FRIDAY
[17:50:00] candc540: happy Friday everyone :)
[17:50:00] kormoc: mornin
[17:51:00] candc540: and i get to move tonight too how fun is that
[17:51:00] candc540: so i'll be without internet access for about 24 hours which kinda sucks
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[17:52:00] candc540: man this sucks
[17:52:00] laga: yeah, fridays rock.
[17:53:00] laga: 24 hours? man, this is hard.
[17:53:00] candc540: i learn how to fix problems with pvr-150s and get the remotes working and nobody needs help setting em up anymore.. oh well
[17:54:00] candc540: laga, yeah no internet 24 hours is pure hell
[17:54:00] candc540: hmmmm <evil plan> write a howto for debian pvr-150 and put wrong instructions in so that users come here for my help :P
[17:55:00] RoCkY: LOL
[17:55:00] laga: there are public places where you can get internet access. or fire up kismet and sniff for open access points
[17:55:00] laga: dude, there has to be a way!
[17:55:00] RoCkY: there is always a way :-)
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[17:55:00] javajunky: lo :)
[17:56:00] javajunky: is mythmusic in cvs currently broken ?
[17:56:00] laga: probably
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[17:57:00] javajunky: ;) er right <g> ..
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[17:57:00] RoCkY: candc540 : what about that howto for debian , any drafts for it or just idea?
[17:59:00] davis: hello
[18:01:00] davis: i need some help with the i910 chipset sound.
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[18:05:00] klpt_: good day everyone
[18:10:00] Beirdo: is it?
[18:10:00] klpt_: well.. over here it is
[18:10:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:10:00] klpt_: sunny, about 60
[18:10:00] ** Beirdo is just stressed out as usual **
[18:10:00] klpt_: fahrenheit
[18:11:00] Beirdo: only 48F here
[18:11:00] klpt_: well, Beirdo, you'll laugh at me for this – but I took my myth system slackware, and then arch again
[18:11:00] klpt_: and I think I know what the problem is
[18:11:00] klpt_: with arch that is
[18:11:00] Beirdo: pebcak?
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[18:11:00] candc540: RoCkY, just an idea
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[18:11:00] klpt_: no, I hope it's not the pebcak or the 1D 10 T
[18:11:00] RoCkY: candc540 : do you have pvr 150 ?
[18:11:00] candc540: yeah
[18:11:00] klpt_: but I think it's mysql
[18:12:00] klpt_: slackware uses mysql 4.0.x
[18:12:00] klpt_: arch uses 4.1.x
[18:12:00] candc540: RoCkY, yes i have a pvr-150
[18:12:00] klpt_: and an strace shows that myth dies while trying to access mysql and not finding the libs it wants
[18:12:00] RoCkY: candc540 : and what are problems with pvr 150 ? i just got one today...:)
[18:12:00] klpt_: didn't ivtv just add support for the 150 and 500?
[18:12:00] klpt_: as in... a few weeks ago?
[18:12:00] candc540: wow compiling the kernel and watching a dvd and chatting on irc made the sound skip for half a millisecond
[18:12:00] klpt_: omg
[18:12:00] RoCkY: candc540 : ivtv 0.3.2 by some people works
[18:13:00] candc540: no probs
[18:13:00] candc540: works great
[18:13:00] candc540: for me that is
[18:13:00] RoCkY: cool:-) that's great news:)
[18:13:00] candc540: i dunno if it will work great for your purposes but works for mine
[18:13:00] RoCkY: candc540 : which kernel branch do you use ? 2.6 ?
[18:13:00] candc540: (recording watching livetv and remote
[18:13:00] candc540: 2.6.8 right now
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[18:13:00] candc540: i think
[18:13:00] RoCkY: remote is hauppauges one with lirc ?
[18:13:00] candc540: wait that's my laptop dunno about my desktop but i think it is 2.6.8
[18:13:00] candc540: yep
[18:14:00] candc540: the one with the hauppauge remote
[18:14:00] candc540: ir blaster don't work though
[18:14:00] candc540: hvae to wait for someone to figure that out and write something for it
[18:14:00] RoCkY: cool:-) im such a lucky bastard :) i got a piece of hw and it's supported :)
[18:15:00] RoCkY: what's that ir blaster thing?
[18:15:00] klpt_: emits IR pulses when compy says so – usually via rs232 or usb
[18:15:00] candc540: thanks klpt_
[18:15:00] candc540: :)
[18:15:00] klpt_: controls TV, set top boxes, etc
[18:15:00] RoCkY: yep i got that... but what r the issues?
[18:15:00] candc540: i'm trying to compile a kernel right now
[18:15:00] RoCkY: remote works ? right ?:)
[18:15:00] candc540: that dont work RoCkY but remote does
[18:16:00] candc540: so IR input works IR output doesn't work
[18:16:00] RoCkY: :-) ok
[18:16:00] ** candc540 is listening to Tiesto Live in Concert II **
[18:16:00] candc540: :P
[18:17:00] RoCkY: what would i need output for anyways... ?
[18:17:00] RoCkY: i mean IR output ...
[18:18:00] candc540: for digital cable box or satellite receivers
[18:18:00] candc540: cause the 150 is only a analogue card
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[18:20:00] RoCkY: ok, guess im very uninformed concerning this stuff , or very stupid:) cause i dont c what would remote need to recive (the output part) if it sends ok (and box recives) ??? i will not use pvr 150 with digital cable or satelite anyhow...
[18:21:00] candc540: then don't worry you're all set
[18:22:00] candc540: just download drivers for the card follow instructions to the letter and let me know if you need help
[18:22:00] candc540: but RTFM before asking for help :P
[18:24:00] RoCkY: ok tnx:-) thanks for the rtfm :-)
[18:30:00] candc540: well if you really do rtfm there are no surprises and all works as it says it should if not then let me know when you get confused and i'll help you through it and then you'll actually learn something like i did
[18:31:00] klpt_: wow punctuation
[18:32:00] RoCkY: of course:) i like rtfm, i just bumped here (dont irc very often) to c what's up with pvr 150 ... cause very few folks talked about it on forums/usenet :-(
[18:32:00] javajunky: hmmm what version of QT does myth now need to compile ?
[18:33:00] klpt_: 3.3.3 and up seems to work fine
[18:33:00] klpt_: haven't tried older
[18:34:00] javajunky: dang, not that then
[18:38:00] javajunky: ah, fixed mythmusic...nice one.
[18:39:00] klpt_: hey, what versions of mysql are you guys using?
[18:40:00] javajunky: 4.0.21–7 I think
[18:41:00] klpt_: thanks
[18:41:00] klpt_: anybody (successfully) using a 4.1.x series mysql?
[18:41:00] candc540: nothing is up with pvr-150 just all info on net is very old
[18:41:00] candc540: and mine works great like i said
[18:41:00] candc540: tuner and all
[18:43:00] archie_: i'm having problems getting mythtv to work with a type 47 tuner
[18:44:00] archie_: the tuner seems to be working fine by itself and so is the framebuffer
[18:44:00] klpt_: that's the type I have
[18:44:00] archie_: but when I try to record anything or watch livetv it won't change the channel
[18:44:00] klpt_: which ivtv are you using?
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[18:44:00] archie_: and after about 30 seconds it times out
[18:45:00] archie_: i've tried both the 0.3 and the 0.2 drivers
[18:45:00] klpt_: do you have ivtv support compiled into mythtv? what about permissions on the devices?
[18:45:00] archie_: i'm using the deb package for it
[18:45:00] klpt_: uhm... ok
[18:45:00] archie_: i'm running it as root currently so perms are an issue
[18:45:00] klpt_: tbh, I have no idea what the debian devs have for options for myth
[18:46:00] klpt_: does the ivtv output in dmesg or /var/log/messages say anything interesting?
[18:46:00] archie_: the same package works fine for my type 2 tuner in another machine
[18:46:00] klpt_: which firmware rev are you using?
[18:47:00] archie_: same one as the other machine, will that be a problem?
[18:47:00] archie_: i don't really have a windows machine right now to gte the firmware with
[18:47:00] archie_: but the tuner changes channels with ptune.pl
[18:47:00] klpt_: you can extract them from the hauppage driver release
[18:47:00] klpt_: I didn't use a windows box either
[18:48:00] klpt_: and you get video
[18:48:00] klpt_: ?
[18:48:00] archie_: when it is viewed with cat /dev/video0 > /dev/video16
[18:48:00] klpt_: and what about to a file, and not to the fb?
[18:48:00] archie_: works fine to a file also
[18:48:00] klpt_: and so the problem is purely in myth?
[18:48:00] klpt_: what does the backend log say?
[18:49:00] archie_: seems to be with myth
[18:49:00] archie_: Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such device"
[18:49:00] archie_: but there is that device
[18:50:00] klpt_: and it is /dev/video0, not /dev/v4l/video0?
[18:50:00] archie_: /dev/video0 is what i was using with cat
[18:51:00] archie_: i have no /dev/v4l directory
[18:51:00] klpt_: ok
[18:51:00] klpt_: well, that all looks good....
[18:51:00] klpt_: I honestly don't know why it doesn't work
[18:52:00] archie_: oh wait, i think i figured it out
[18:52:00] klpt_: try setting perms to 666 on the device anyway
[18:52:00] klpt_: ?
[18:52:00] archie_: i think the backend started before the drivers loaded
[18:52:00] klpt_: oh, you're not starting it on the command line while debugging?
[18:53:00] klpt_: that would certainly cause the problem
[18:53:00] archie_: i thought i tried that last night but i guess not
[18:53:00] klpt_: try restarting mythbackend manually
[18:53:00] archie_: the machine keeps kernel panicing
[18:53:00] klpt_: and check the log to make sure it opened the device ok
[18:53:00] klpt_: kernel panicing? why?
[18:53:00] archie_: so it get reboot all the time
[18:53:00] klpt_: is the hardware unstable?
[18:53:00] archie_: i don't have a clue why it is kernel panicing
[18:53:00] klpt_: do a memtest86 on it
[18:54:00] archie_: it isn't even my machine, it belongs to my friend
[18:54:00] archie_: i told him i'd set up mythtv on it...and it turned in to a bigger pain that I expected
[18:56:00] javajunky: its usually the hardware thats the pain, not mythtv itself :)
[18:56:00] javajunky: having said that, your friend is mad if he thinks he'll be able to maintain it without your help ;)
[18:57:00] archie_: he's a good linux guy but just never messed with mythtv
[18:57:00] archie_: and he told me he had an "older" tuner...and i kinda assumed type 2 like mine
[18:57:00] klpt_: :)
[18:59:00] archie_: the machine is junk though in my opinion
[18:59:00] ** xris kicks javascript's a$$ again... molds it to his needs. **
[18:59:00] klpt_: javascript.... :(
[19:00:00] klpt_: like qbasic for the web
[19:01:00] riksta: haha
[19:01:00] archie_: thanks for the help...sometime just talking about what isn't working with someone else is super helpful
[19:01:00] klpt_: sure thing, though I didn't fix anything
[19:01:00] klpt_: was the boot order the problem
[19:01:00] klpt_: ?
[19:01:00] archie_: i believe so
[19:01:00] klpt_: well... give it a try and report back
[19:01:00] archie_: i'm going to mess with the boot order so it come up right
[19:02:00] archie_: but i have lots of other stuff i *need* to get done today
[19:02:00] archie_: but i'm definately happy to see it workin
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[19:06:00] davis: anybody familar with the snd_hda_intel driver here?
[19:06:00] klpt_: not I
[19:06:00] davis: i am wondering if it is a mythtv problem or a alsa problem why I can not "listen" to tv with mythtv, but I can capture audio and sound with the haupage card.
[19:07:00] AndyCap: Hmm, horribly stupid question, but is "Channel number" the frequency in HZ?
[19:07:00] davis: no
[19:07:00] davis: its a table lookup entry to the frequency.
[19:07:00] davis: channel 3 corresponds to some frequencey.
[19:08:00] AndyCap: davis: mm, do you know where to find this table?
[19:08:00] davis: i got mine from the ivtv cvs
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[19:08:00] davis: but you can also get it from debian via apt.
[19:08:00] davis: are you on debian perhaps?
[19:09:00] AndyCap: no, I'm not, fc3. trying to figure out how to set up my channels in mythtv.
[19:09:00] candc540: did i miss aything?
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[19:10:00] davis: its a perl script library.
[19:14:00] Coume: evening room
[19:14:00] davis: hello
[19:14:00] Coume: hiya laga
[19:14:00] davis: i have a haupage card.
[19:14:00] ** Coume is away fighting with laptop **
[19:14:00] davis: when I watch tv, should I be using the audio out on my soundcard or the haupage card?
[19:16:00] Coume: what hauppaugge?
[19:16:00] davis: 350
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[19:16:00] davis: it captures audio and video when I cat /dev/video
[19:16:00] Coume: soundcard
[19:16:00] davis: to a mpeg file and playback later in xine.
[19:17:00] davis: but when I "watch tv" on the computer monitor from ATI video card I don't get audio on my soundcard.
[19:17:00] ** laga hands coume some handy tools. a knife, a flak, a panzerfaust... **
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[19:18:00] davis: red needle baby.
[19:18:00] davis: davis wonders if laga knows the reference.
[19:19:00] Coume: davis, it's not a prbl config in Mythtv?
[19:19:00] davis: i dont know.
[19:19:00] davis: i have problems with regular audio anyway.
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[19:19:00] davis: i wonder if the sound card is so new that the driver is very limited function at this point.
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[19:20:00] kossu: davis, are you sure mythtv is not setting your adio card volume to zero when you start watching tv?
[19:20:00] davis: it might be.
[19:20:00] Coume: davis, if you do mplayer /dev/video0 do u get live tv with sound?
[19:20:00] davis: i dont know how to adjust the volume once mythtv starts.
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[19:20:00] laga: davis: sorry, dunno
[19:20:00] Coume: kossu, exactly or the digital thingie
[19:20:00] davis: Coume: dont know.
[19:20:00] laga: yeah. the digital thingie was it, i bet.
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[19:21:00] davis: Coume: but cat /dev/video > foo.mpg will capture sound and audio for playback later in xine.
[19:21:00] laga: .oO(...this is a criggin' computer. ..)
[19:21:00] laga: s/c/f/
[19:21:00] Coume: davis, try mplayer /dev/video0
[19:21:00] davis: laga: the red needle is the what level 4 medics get in Return to Castle Wolfensteinn – Enemy Territory
[19:21:00] davis: Coume: ok.
[19:21:00] Beirdo: Hmmm.
[19:21:00] kossu: davis, I think F9 and F10 will adjust volume.. you can also try to start a mixer application and use alt+tab to switch to it from mythtv and check if the volume is zero
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[19:22:00] Beirdo: A64 3000+ for $186, or A64 3200+ for $240 (Canadian)
[19:22:00] klpt__: yay to my isp
[19:22:00] davis: Coume: its downloading now.
[19:22:00] davis: in meantime, I will try F9 and F10
[19:22:00] kossu: davis, it's actually F10 and F11 to adjust volume (F9 to mute)
[19:22:00] davis: brb
[19:22:00] davis: ok.
[19:22:00] Coume: yep and check config for the digital thingie
[19:22:00] laga: davis: oh, ok.
[19:23:00] Coume: I don't remember the exact name :)
[19:23:00] laga: Beirdo: you could easily overclock the 3000+ to reach that level, i guess ;)
[19:23:00] Beirdo: I don't overclock
[19:23:00] davis: bummer
[19:23:00] ** laga drools at an 4000+ **
[19:23:00] davis: volume is 100% and mute is off.
[19:24:00] Beirdo: I want the machine faster than it is now (P3–500) and cooler. Hence AMD64
[19:24:00] laga: yeah.
[19:24:00] laga: well. the 3000+ has the most mhz per euro, at least here in germany. i usually go with the "sweet spot"
[19:25:00] Beirdo: yeah, the 3200 is in my build server and my windows box
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[19:25:00] AranC23: Someone mentioned that yesterday... I had no idea that Athlon64's made an improvement over Athlon-xps in temps
[19:25:00] kossu: davis, maybe you should start a mixer app and check volume levels there (at least main, and wave volumes)
[19:25:00] Beirdo: I'll likely try to get the 3000 and end up with a 3200
[19:25:00] kossu: AranC23, the new athlon64 line runs much cooler than any pentium or other athlon
[19:25:00] kossu: 939 socket athlons
[19:26:00] Beirdo: 939 rules...
[19:26:00] AranC23: and yet the conventional wisdom on the mythtv-users list is still that a P4-HT is the best bet?
[19:26:00] Beirdo: WAY WAY WAY cooler
[19:26:00] davis: ok two things.
[19:26:00] Beirdo: my build server runs between 25C and 25C
[19:26:00] Beirdo: 35C rather
[19:26:00] kossu: currently all pentiums have huge problem with heat
[19:26:00] ** kormoc 's doesn't **
[19:26:00] Beirdo: AMD64 rules
[19:26:00] kossu: (I mean newer pentium processors)
[19:27:00] kormoc: heh
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[19:27:00] davis: with mixer I can only set it to 0 or 100% with this driver. I need to figure out if its /dev/dsp or what.
[19:27:00] laga: yeah. prescott sucks.
[19:27:00] kormoc: even if I ran the newest, I wouldn't, damn good hsf.
[19:27:00] Beirdo: and of course, I'll need another Sonata
[19:27:00] kossu: davis, that sounds like a digital output maybe?
[19:27:00] AranC23: I think you can still buy northwood p4s, but they cost more.
[19:27:00] davis: not having fully functionality with audio in windows is problem.
[19:27:00] AranC23: for less cache
[19:27:00] davis: Coume: about mplyaer.
[19:27:00] laga: i got my celeron 2.4ghz for 70 euro. good deal, i guess.
[19:27:00] davis: when I do mplayer /dev/video, I get this error:
[19:27:00] ** kormoc likes the sound of the new p4-m desktop procs. **
[19:27:00] davis: File not found: '/dev/video0'
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[19:28:00] kossu: athlon64 is really advanced processor (compared to pentiums).. it runs as fast as pentiums with much smaller clock speed.. it also has embedded memory controller which makes it even faster
[19:28:00] davis: maybe a perm problem.
[19:28:00] davis: what do you have setup for perms/owenership of /dev/video?
[19:28:00] AranC23: kossu: I'm aware of it's advantages, but still many people seem to prefer it to the AMD64 for decoding HD content, on the mythtv-users list that is. Maybe that's changed...
[19:28:00] kossu: davis, check if you have /dev/video0
[19:29:00] laga: kossu: BTw. there is an adapter for pentium-m. you can put them in socket 478 boards then.
[19:29:00] davis: i have dev/video0
[19:29:00] davis: i was root when I did the capture for xine playback.
[19:29:00] davis: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6 2005-04–09 14:25 /dev/video -> video0
[19:29:00] kossu: AranC23, HT probably is very good for such a thing.. because it appears as a dual processor for the OS
[19:29:00] davis: does mplayer need to be able to open the video device for writing?
[19:30:00] davis: crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2005-04–09 14:25 /dev/video0
[19:30:00] davis: let me relogin?
[19:30:00] kossu: davis, I have more restricted permissions for /dev/video0 and it works
[19:30:00] davis: ok brb. i addded davis to user group video.
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[19:32:00] candc540: RoCkY, you get it figured out yet?
[19:34:00] davis: well, after I relogged in I tried doing mplayer /dev/video and it shows video but no audio.
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[19:36:00] davis: http://pastebot.nd.edu/168
[19:36:00] davis: that pastebot shows my info when I do the mplayer test.
[19:42:00] kossu: davis, as far as I can tell there seems to be nothing wrong
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[20:01:00] davis: kossu: same here. except nothing comes out speaker.
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[20:07:00] RoCkY: candc540 : im downloading knoppmyth to try it out first, and im rtfm-ing in the mean while
[20:07:00] RoCkY: sh*t
[20:07:00] RoCkY: :(
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[20:13:00] Ragge: Is trying out MythBrowser.. But after I browse a site and goes back to mythmenu I cant go to another site. Have to restart the frontend to "fix it". Am I the only one with the problem?
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[20:19:00] hadees: hahaha, http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3117 . . . nav=0qq6XpfR
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[20:21:00] Beirdo: http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20050408-004/page.asp
[20:21:00] Beirdo: yay
[20:21:00] Beirdo: transit strike here we come
[20:21:00] Beirdo: greedy assholes
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[20:27:00] dmorrigan: Hullo all
[20:29:00] dmorrigan: I have a problem I cannot figure out: I have a backend system that has "forgotten" how to change channels. It has the change channel script in the mythtvsetup but doesn't seem to call it
[20:30:00] dmorrigan: Anyone have this problem before?
[20:31:00] hadees: dmorrigan, does the script work from the command line?
[20:32:00] dmorrigan: Yes it does
[20:32:00] dmorrigan: As the myth user and root
[20:33:00] hadees: dmorrigan, and you double checked you have it right in the config
[20:34:00] dmorrigan: Yep
[20:34:00] hadees: dmorrigan, whats the frontend and backend print out when you try to change channels
[20:35:00] dmorrigan: Nada
[20:36:00] dmorrigan: Hmmm...Maybe I should have waited to ask here...Just found an obscure reference to my error
[20:36:00] dmorrigan: Fixed it
[20:37:00] dmorrigan: My source ID for my card was different from the sourceid in the channel teble
[20:37:00] dmorrigan: *table
[20:37:00] dmorrigan: Works now
[20:38:00] dmorrigan: Thanks for trying hadees
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[20:59:00] Vantage: hi, i'm having a weird issue with my myth box at the moment. Because my digital cable provider change the channel listings around, I had to delete the channel listings and recreate them. However, since then my external change channel script doesn't work from within mythtv (works fine from cli)
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[21:00:00] Vantage: also, the tuner seems to auto-select after two digit input (before I could enter 3 digits no problem before auto-select kicked in)
[21:00:00] conreyt: I've got an odd problem. not sure I understand what is happening.... When I cat /dev/video0 >/path/file.mpeg it creates a file with nothing in it.... Not sure what is occuring. I suppose that a more accurate place to look for assistance would be the ivtv supprt however as I'm trying to get tis up and running any assistance would be appriciated....
[21:01:00] Geckofiend: conreyt sounds like an ivtv driver issue not a mtythtv issue...
[21:01:00] Geckofiend: have you tried the ivtv mailing lists or chat channels?
[21:02:00] conreyt: Geckofiend: chat channels are quiet, and sifting though the mailing lists has turned up a few leads but nothing substancial that I could find.
[21:03:00] Der_Ollie_: Obviously the driver isn't loaded correctly. You should check the options, load the related modules and should also have a look into your logfiles what the ivtv-Driver is saying when coming up.
[21:04:00] AndyCap: hm, is anyone here using lirc with dev/input (saa7134 with terratec cinergy remote) evtest shows the remote working on /dev/input/event1 but irw just sits there if I try it.
[21:04:00] conreyt: Der_Ollie_: I believe that the modules are loaded correctly and I'm seeing the card recognized in the mseg log
[21:04:00] Der_Ollie_: Let me see in query.
[21:05:00] Der_Ollie_: Or nopaste or anywhere else
[21:08:00] conreyt: I've got the contents of the section in the /var/log/dmesg that pertains to card how should I show to u.
[21:09:00] hadees: conreyt, http://pastebin.ca/
[21:12:00] conreyt: hadees: http://pastebin.ca/9127
[21:14:00] hadees: do 'modprobe -r ivtv'
[21:14:00] hadees: then do 'modprobe ivtv ivtv_debug=255'
[21:14:00] hadees: then put up another pastebin
[21:16:00] conreyt: hadees: no return
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[21:19:00] sozto: has anyone had problems installing mythmusic from cvs?
[21:19:00] conreyt: hadees: what am I pasting up again
[21:20:00] stoffel: compiling rather. sozto? see the posts on the mailing lists
[21:20:00] sozto: stoffel, yes compiling... i'll check them out
[21:20:00] stoffel: either -dev or -users can't remember which one right now
[21:21:00] hadees: conreyt, the ivtv part of dmesg
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[21:22:00] conreyt: hadees: http://pastebin.ca/9128
[21:24:00] hadees: conreyt, in another terminal run tail -f /var/log/messages
[21:25:00] hadees: then try to cat from /dev/video0 again
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[21:25:00] hadees: see if anything comes up
[21:26:00] AndyCap: Ok, I got lucky and found a configuration file for lirc that works
[21:30:00] conreyt: hadees: http://pastebin.ca/9130
[21:31:00] conreyt: hadees: -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 0 2005-04–08 15:28 ahcrap.mpg
[21:34:00] sozto: stoffel, thanks for the tip... getting somewhere now :)
[21:34:00] conreyt: hadees: not even sure what that means lol
[21:35:00] hadees: conreyt, um if you don't know what it means you shouldn't be using unix, however i don't have a clue whats up
[21:35:00] stoffel: sozto: np
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[21:36:00] hadees: conreyt, you sure /dev/video0 exists and you can read from it
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[21:39:00] conreyt: hadees: I'm sure that video0 exists however, It's a ln from video right now...... Do I need to recreate?
[21:39:00] AranC23: my recordedmarkup table is 80MB and contains markups for programs recorded in 2003
[21:40:00] CyberKnet: xris: weather on mythweb is not interpreting "T-Showers" it is showing the unknown graphic
[21:40:00] CyberKnet: reference zip 74110 weather on tuesday apr 12
[21:42:00] conreyt: hadees: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Apr 8 13:30 video -> video0
[21:42:00] conreyt: crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 Apr 8 13:29 video0
[21:42:00] conreyt: crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 1 Apr 8 13:29 video1
[21:43:00] AranC23: what portion of the code is supposed to remove the recordedmarkup entries? shouldn't they go away on delete? I don't even have any shows on there from 2004, let alone 2003
[21:43:00] xris: CyberKnet: there may be a bug about that. dunno how to fix it, I haven't really looked at the weather module
[21:43:00] CyberKnet: xris: Oh. I thought maybe it just didn't know about t-showers
[21:44:00] CyberKnet: xris: to be honest though, I didn't go into the code. It was easier to tell you =P
[21:45:00] xris: CyberKnet: that could be true. it probably needs a new icon created with the proper name.
[21:46:00] CyberKnet: xris: I'll check in mythtv tonight and see if it also has the same issue... if so then we'll just wait until the mythweather theme maintainers add it =P"
[21:46:00] conreyt: hadees: how do you test weather you could read from it?
[21:47:00] CyberKnet: I think it's just a weathertypes.dat update actually. I'll look into it.
[21:48:00] xris: CyberKnet: ok
[21:49:00] hadees: conreyt, did you run the script test_ioctl
[21:49:00] hadees: to set everything up?
[21:49:00] hadees: and installed the firmware from Hauppage
[21:51:00] AranC23: hmm... it looks like recorded markup has add 26K rows today alone from around ~6 shows.. I did just switch to the All commercial detection method
[21:53:00] CyberKnet: xris: Assuming that the id in that file corresponds to the filename of the image on weather.com then we need to add a line "11,T-Showers,thunshowers.png"
[21:54:00] CyberKnet: and that will take care of it
[21:54:00] xris: ahh
[21:54:00] xris: sounds good
[21:54:00] CyberKnet: need a patch, or you want to just take care of it?
[21:54:00] xris: part of mythweb? send me a patch so I don't forget.
[21:54:00] ** CyberKnet attempts a patch **
[21:54:00] xris: cvs diff -u
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[21:54:00] xris: very easy
[21:55:00] CyberKnet: I think that maybe the numbers in there dont directly correspond... we'll see
[21:59:00] Beirdo: stupid laptop
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[22:06:00] CyberKnet: dammit. My wife is on the computer.
[22:06:00] Beirdo: so? :)
[22:06:00] CyberKnet: I need to set up email on this box to go through cox smtp
[22:07:00] Beirdo: go give her some lovin
[22:08:00] CyberKnet: I'm at *work*
[22:08:00] Beirdo: excuses, excuses
[22:09:00] ** CyberKnet curses at his mythbox **
[22:09:00] xris: CyberKnet: what kind of geek are you with only one computer at home?
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: xris: three
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: but only one running windows with remote desktop
[22:09:00] xris: ah
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: for me to log into to send an email
[22:09:00] ** xris only has one windows machine, too. **
[22:09:00] Beirdo: ssh
[22:09:00] Beirdo: silly boy
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: I *am* ssh'd into my linux box at home
[22:10:00] xris: CyberKnet: nevermind, I'll wget it.
[22:10:00] Beirdo: mutt
[22:10:00] xris: wait, send me the link again
[22:10:00] CyberKnet: xris: No, I'll just use hotmail instead
[22:10:00] Beirdo: :)
[22:10:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: Never used it before. Thought about installing pine though.
[22:10:00] chickeneater: Beirdo: where are you in Canada?
[22:10:00] Beirdo: mutt's lighter weight and easier to use remotely
[22:11:00] Mrgoose: what up fools
[22:11:00] Beirdo: chickeneater: just under 1km from the CN Tower
[22:11:00] CyberKnet: would you mind helping me set it up to send mail through my isp?
[22:11:00] Beirdo: muhahaah
[22:11:00] chickeneater: Beirdo: is that east of west Canada?
[22:11:00] Beirdo: I could, but then I'd have to kill you
[22:11:00] Beirdo: Toronto
[22:11:00] chickeneater: ahh
[22:11:00] chickeneater: I saw a show on west Canada
[22:11:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: ass
[22:12:00] chickeneater: Alberta -> B.C. -> Yukon
[22:12:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: what mail daemon are you planning on using?
[22:12:00] chickeneater: maybe Seskatchewan (sp?)
[22:12:00] Beirdo: Saskatchewan
[22:12:00] Beirdo: you were damn close :)
[22:12:00] chickeneater: heh
[22:12:00] xris: where saskatoonberries come from.  :)
[22:13:00] chickeneater: it was cool
[22:13:00] Beirdo: or as my friends call it... "suckasskatoon
[22:13:00] Beirdo: "
[22:13:00] kormoc: I always like to call it, saskathisdamnnameistoodamnlong.
[22:13:00] xris: lol
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[22:14:00] Beirdo: Hmmmm.
[22:15:00] Beirdo: my writing thread dies on the FIRST packet it gets off the queue
[22:15:00] Beirdo: nice
[22:18:00] Baylink: Ick
[22:18:00] Beirdo: this is a PITA
[22:21:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: I just want an MTA really
[22:21:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: I want to use Cox mail daemon
[22:21:00] Beirdo: ah
[22:22:00] Beirdo: postfix is likely your best bet over all.
[22:22:00] Beirdo: some people swear by exim
[22:22:00] CyberKnet: just to send mail?
[22:22:00] CyberKnet: I dont even want to read mail.
[22:22:00] Beirdo: and I wouldn't ever subject you to sendmail even though I use it
[22:22:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:22:00] Beirdo: you want to send mail via a smarthost
[22:22:00] Beirdo: that nearly requires you to run a server
[22:22:00] CyberKnet: no, I just want to send mail via SMTP
[22:23:00] Beirdo: hmm
[22:23:00] CyberKnet: I'm trying to keep this simple, you know =)
[22:23:00] Beirdo: I think either Pine or mutt should be able to point directly at the SMTP server
[22:23:00] CyberKnet: however, you are free to tell me to fuck off and die as this is not your problem =)
[22:23:00] Beirdo: oh hell
[22:24:00] AranC23: ssmtp is what you want
[22:24:00] Beirdo: I need \n in those log messages :)
[22:24:00] AranC23: it's a send-only sendmail replacement
[22:25:00] AranC23: basically all it does is send to a smarthost or mailhub
[22:27:00] Beirdo: OK...
[22:27:00] Beirdo: interesting
[22:31:00] Beirdo: Enqueued 0x8d4280 onto queue 0x785070
[22:31:00] Beirdo: Dequeued 0x786030 off queue 0x785690
[22:31:00] Beirdo: Enqueued 0x145d onto queue 0x7859a0
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[22:31:00] Beirdo: OK, where is it that I'm enqueuing something that's been corrupted :)
[22:31:00] Beirdo: that pointer's obviously borked
[22:32:00] ** kormoc points in the vague direction of east-north-east **
[22:32:00] kormoc: somewhere over that way is where it's enqueuing
[22:32:00] Beirdo: heh
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[22:36:00] Beirdo: type I in vidReencode
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[22:36:00] Beirdo: getting there
[22:37:00] Beirdo: log prints rule
[22:37:00] Beirdo: muhahah
[22:38:00] Beirdo: OK, it's hitting code it shouldn't...
[22:42:00] CyberKnet: does this page render horrifically slow on firefox for anyone else: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/ . . . Fedora/RPMS/
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[22:43:00] stoffel: slow, but not that slow
[22:43:00] stoffel: my transcode process is way slower
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[22:45:00] CyberKnet: hmm.. firefox 1.1 on winxp took about 5 minutes
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[22:45:00] CyberKnet: msie rndered it in about 2s
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[22:46:00] CyberKnet: I hate to open it, but I needed the url to an rpm and the rpm was WAY down the list, and firefox had only gotten up to the t's
[22:46:00] CyberKnet: in 5 minutes
[22:47:00] Beirdo: oooh, look
[22:47:00] Beirdo: how pretty
[22:48:00] Beirdo: error, non monotone timestamps 33 >= 2
[22:48:00] Beirdo: error, non monotone timestamps 33 >= 3
[22:48:00] Beirdo: error, non monotone timestamps 33 >= 3
[22:48:00] Beirdo: error, non monotone timestamps 33 >= 4
[22:48:00] Beirdo: WTF?!
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[23:00:00] CyberKnet: patch should be sending now
[23:00:00] CyberKnet: mutt is now configured to use msmtp to send mail... which works for me very well.
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[23:15:00] xris: CyberKnet: I got ti. so that 47 number or whatever it is fixes the problem?
[23:15:00] xris: s/ti/it/
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[23:18:00] CyberKnet: xris: Yes
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[23:19:00] amax: hi! I installed mythTV yesterday from debian packages, my guide is off by an hour, and ive seen that there is a fix in CVS, but... I don't know how to get, compile, etc. from CVS. Is there a howto on CVS for debian? :)
[23:20:00] xris: google maps boggles my mind.
[23:20:00] Geckofiend: xris pretty sweet isn't it?
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[23:21:00] Geckofiend: amax you might as well wait till sunday .18 should be out by then
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[23:22:00] amax: Geckofiend, OK! thanks.
[23:22:00] xris: Geckofiend: you can get sat images of the individual little direction-giving zooms.
[23:22:00] xris: not that they're as useful as the vector images, but it's darn cool
[23:22:00] amax: Geckofiend, are updates for debian released every couple of weeks or how do you know it will be updated by then?
[23:23:00] Geckofiend: amax well, I don't...
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[23:25:00] amax: :/
[23:26:00] kormoc: Beirdo, hey, you should run irc stats for this channel (http://pisg.sourceforge.net/ is a good one to use)
[23:26:00] xris: amax: isaac has said that he wants to release .18 this weekend. which likely means sunday night.
[23:26:00] xris: but more likely, it'll be mid-week next week.
[23:27:00] amax: xris, thanks
[23:28:00] Beirdo: could do, kormoc
[23:28:00] amax: now, i assume the debian packages are compiled for 386, would there be a big difference if I compiled it for my K7?
[23:29:00] kormoc: Beirdo, it'd be cool
[23:30:00] Beirdo: I'll look at it in a bit. if it will parse the logs that the logbot spits out, it may be doable :)
[23:31:00] kormoc: pisg has a cool thing where you can whip up a format template and then it can phrase that format, so even if it doesn't out of the box, it shouldn't be too hard, I wouldn't think :)
[23:32:00] Beirdo: yeah
[23:32:00] Beirdo: cool
[23:33:00] Beirdo: well, I wanna fix nuv2avi first :)
[23:33:00] kormoc: heh, yeah, no hurrys :)
[23:37:00] GotD0t: how do i convert the mpeg2s from my pvr-250 into mpeg4?
[23:38:00] Beirdo: <set FoulWords="ass fuck bitch">
[23:38:00] Beirdo: haha
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[23:46:00] xris: Beirdo: xml error — no closing tag
[23:46:00] Beirdo: heh
[23:47:00] Beirdo: that's the pisg config format
[23:47:00] xris: ahh
[23:47:00] xris: lamers
[23:47:00] Beirdo: and the default setting for FoulWords. nice default ;)
[23:47:00] xris: they forgot shit
[23:47:00] xris: and fishhead
[23:47:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[23:47:00] Beirdo: but apparently, they are into ass fucking bitches
[23:48:00] xris: yes
[23:48:00] kormoc: brings a new meaning to rolly polly fishheads.
[23:48:00] Beirdo: now if I could figure out why this asshole program is crapping out
[23:49:00] xris: heh
[23:49:00] Beirdo: now it's dying in a malloc
[23:49:00] Beirdo: I don't get it
[23:49:00] xris: ick
[23:52:00] Beirdo: wonder if something's not being 64-bit safe or something
[23:54:00] Beirdo: found a memory leak though
[23:54:00] Beirdo: heh
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[23:56:00] Beirdo: error, non monotone timestamps 32 >= 22error, non monotone timestamps 32 >= 23error, non monotone timestamps 32 >= 24
[23:56:00] Beirdo: a bunch of that shit too sometimes
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[23:58:00] marmoset: Hi, I think my guide data has been off since the time change, but the machine has the correct date, where do I start looking to find out what's got a wrong time?
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[23:59:00] Beirdo: start with reading the damn topic :)
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[23:59:00] marmoset: I did, and went to the mailinglist archive, and came up with stuff from quite a while ago, and none of it seemed appropriate (/etc/localtime appears to be correct)

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