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Monday, April 4th, 2005, 00:00 UTC

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schmots:

Light at the end of the tunnel..

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schmots:

After searching through the zap2it list I found the right term to search for my problem

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sarahemm{SA}:

cool :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

fixed?

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Urgo:

so this time zone problem... how do we fix it? :)

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Urgo:

the hour off thing

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jdrogers:

getting sooo close to having everything work

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jdrogers:

and I ALSO hate tuner cards

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Urgo:

schmots, you were talking about it earlier according to the logs :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

am i the only one not having any problems with the time?

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sarahemm{SA}:

jdrogers: heh :) trying to get this new one i just got working.. it's Not :P

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sarahemm{SA}:

i think i need to patch my kernel, which i've done and am rebuilding now..

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Urgo:

guess so sarahemm =]

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jdrogers:

I'm not having time issues, but we don't do DST here in AZ

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Urgo:

:)

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A|:

az and hi know what its about

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sarahemm{SA}:

ahh.

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A|:

the USA should switch to two time zones

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A|:

mainland that is

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Cromz:

ours and thiers time zones? :)

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A|:

heh

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Urgo:

so no one knows how to fix it? heh

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Urgo:

I agree changing times is dumb

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jdrogers:

personally, I think there should be one world time zone and no daylight savings, and if that means working hours in your area are 1am to 10am, so be it

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Urgo:

lol

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A|:

utc for life

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opello:

so i somehow broke mythtv, went back to the original db after backing the 'broke' state one up — what tables do i need to recover so that i have all of my recorded shows back in the 'clean' db?

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jdrogers:

does anyone have jumpiness/freezing when using the EPG with livetv?

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jdrogers:

opello, good question.. if anyone knows, I'm writing down for future reference

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opello:

heh, i wish i knew

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Cromz:

there is a table called recorded

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opello:

is that the only one i need?

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schmots:

Ok.. here is what I need.. in mythtvsetup there is an xmltv off set section. Howerver it doesn't matter how much I change it nothing is different... do I have to empty the "programs" table and then mythfilldatabase after changes to the offset?

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Cromz:

that's the one that keeps track of shows you have recorded yes.

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opello:

excellent

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opello:

how about the bitrate and those settings/

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opello:

for the recording profiles

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Cromz:

opello: I had one in there that was hmm not in there any more.. I had to find it and delete it out of the database. cause I changed stored locations ;)

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opello:

heh

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Cromz:

the tables in the database are labeled pretty well as to what they are.. like... Table recordingprofiles in database mythconverg

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Urgo:

so no one knows how to fix the US time zone issue with programs being 1 hour early?

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jdrogers:

just a dumb question, but the date on your system is correct, right?

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schmots:

Urgo I am working on that too.

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Urgo:

yeah it is

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schmots:

yes date on system is right

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Cromz:

Urgo I had to find a tz that was one hour behind me to fix mine. it's a bad work around.

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Urgo:

maybe its a zap2it probelm?

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schmots:

problem is GNT doesn't follow daylight savings...

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Urgo:

Cromz: I was thinking of that..

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jdrogers:

so if the time is correct, then it must be the data that is 'off'

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jdrogers:

so have you double checked that zap2it data has been updated?

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opello:

Cromz: ah, yes – thanks :| sorry for the ignorance there

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schmots:

Cromz do you still use ntp to handle time?

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Cromz:

not really.. I was about to scream this morning and last night trying to fix mine. mine was 2 hours off.. but it's all better now.. least till tuesday when it's off again.

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Cromz:

schmots: ya

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jdrogers:

sometimes even the tvguide channel is screwed up for a couple days as I remember

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T`:

hey guys, does anyone know how to fix the scheduel info to the day light savings issue?

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schmots:

hehe

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T`:

my chanel info is all wrong due to the 1hr DST setting :/

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jdrogers:

lol

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Cromz:

now that mine is fixed.. when I run mythfilldatabase it should correct it for tuesday and the rest of the data.. but we'll see or I could just drop the programs data and refill the database. lol

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T`:

did mythfilldatabase but it gives some error

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schmots:

changing the timezone lines up the program group right.. but of course.. now the time is wrong.

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GreyFoxx:

I didn't have to touch a thing with regards to DST

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Urgo:

GreyFoxx: its 8:26pm where you are?

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GreyFoxx:

Correct

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Cromz:

mine happened before the time change lol I rebooted and it was off.. dunno what cause it yet.

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T`:

Marking repeats...found 2194

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T`:

Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window...found 11

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T`:

2005-04–03 19:26:49.297 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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T`:

2005-04–03 19:26:49.304 Using protocol version 14

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T`:

ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 18376, errno = 32

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schmots:

Same here..

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T`:

i got that error while doing mythfilldatabase

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T`:

can someone tell me how to fix it please?

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schmots:

I have tried to adjust the time offset in the setup menu.. but it doesn't seem to do anything.

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jdrogers:

I find that lots of things I change in the setup menu take no effect

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psm321:

hi

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psm321:

how do i adjust for DST?

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psm321:

(my program guide is off by an hour)

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Urgo:

seems to be the question of the night :)

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jdrogers:

hehe, this just keeps getting better

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schmots:

This seems to be a major issue.. you would think there would be a solution somewhere.

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psm321:

well whats the answer? :)

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T`:

yea, please put the answer in topic ;)

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psm321:

my timezone is set correctly

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Urgo:

the answer is: ??????????

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psm321:

and my system clock changed automatically

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jdrogers:

so, I'm still asking, are we sure its not an error with the zap2it data?

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psm321:

but my program guide is off, and rerunning mythfilldatabase didnt help

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Cromz:

maybe drop the data from the database in table programs.. and re-fill the data?

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schmots:

jdrogers not an error with zap2it.. zap2it sends out its data in GMT

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Urgo:

jdrogers: I haven't looked at the raw data, but on their website vrsion its right

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GreyFoxx:

psm321: Mine too, and all my guide data is lining up perfectly. I didn't have to do anything last change, or either of last years changes either

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schmots:

and the softwre that mytht uses to dl adjusts it

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jdrogers:

ah, ok

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Urgo:

I've never had TZ problems either before

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Urgo:

I've been running myth for at least two other TZ changes

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jdrogers:

I suspect then that it has to do with how each of your systems stores time

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Urgo:

my timezone WAS set to EDT (EST5EDT). I just changed it to EST to see if that helped but it didn't

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psm321:

mine is set to EST5EDT

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psm321:

which i believe is the proper setting

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Urgo:

yeah I think so too psm

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psm321:

so theres no definite answer yet

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T`:

also, i can't quit mythfrontend

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T`:

anyonw know how i can fix it?

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T`:

clicking Yes, Exit now wont do iot

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T`:

s/iot/it

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schmots:

ssh in and as root run killall mythfrontend

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psm321:

i just set up a manual record for malcolm+simpsons+sketch... hopefully there'll be a fix by then

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T`:

schmots, i am using it on my desktop

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T`:

schmots, i killed it and it dies, but it wont quit next time

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T`:

schmots, its didnt hang up btw.. i can go back to the menu and watch TV if i wanted to

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jdrogers:

GreyFoxx, is your system time set to GMT or your timezone?

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psm321:

or i guess i could set my clock an hour back for now

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T`:

jdrogers, i have mine to EST.. db is all messed up

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psm321:

but that would probably mess with the ongoing recording

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jdrogers:

yeah, but GreyFoxx has everything working correct, so I'm trying to see what the diff is

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T`:

oh

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GreyFoxx:

jdrogers: to my timezone

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GreyFoxx:

Set during install, not touched otherwise

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schmots:

I even formated and rebuilt my box today

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T`:

schmots, wow! just for mythtv?

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psm321:

GreyFoxx: to the EDT version or the on-EDT version?

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psm321:

*non-EDT

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GreyFoxx:

not on Eastern

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psm321:

err sorr

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GreyFoxx:

ADT, Atlantic

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schmots:

myth is all I have this box doing.

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schmots:

Maybe only EST is messed up.

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psm321:

maybe

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jdrogers:

GreyFoxx, what dist?

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GreyFoxx:

Slackware

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** Urgo is running gentoo **

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** psm321 hopes theres a fix soon... lots of things recorded on sunday night **

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jdrogers:

does slack use tzconfig?

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** psm321 is running gentoo too **

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T`:

i can't click on any button in Myth it seems.. likei can't click on the options when i start mythsetup

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schmots:

anyone in here not on the US east cost and have the problem with the program guide?

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T`:

thats the reason why i can't also quit mythfrontend

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T`:

it doesnt seem to get my input

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T`:

anyone know how i can fix this issue?

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GreyFoxx:

jdrogers: I have a tzselect, and timeconfig, but not tzconfig

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GreyFoxx:

I set the timezones during install, and never touch them again

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GreyFoxx:

and I haven't had a call from the 15 or so myth installs I've put out there to complain so I am assuming they are all working too

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Urgo:

T, what OS are you running?

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jdrogers:

hehe

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** jdrogers goes off to read up on how different dists keep track of time **

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T`:

Urgo, fc3

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Urgo:

k

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T`:

the input mechanism for buttons is messed up

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Urgo:

so gentoo and fedora are effected

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T`:

i can however goto watch TV, etc.

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Urgo:

at least :)

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T`:

browse schedule, etc. too

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GreyFoxx:

and of course the 15+installs of myth out ther eI have are all slackware as well. varying from 9.1 through to 10.1

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schmots:

jdrogers.. with the /etc/drift file

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schmots:

provided ntpd is running.

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schmots:

... anyone with debian affected?

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jdrogers:

I'm running debian, but don't have DST

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sarahemm{SA}:

well, composite in works... tuner doesn't... hrm.

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spr:

schmots, it looks like it's a bug with qt 3.3.4 (details on the mailing list).

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spr:

I'm having problems here

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spr:

(MDT)

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Urgo:

k

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Urgo:

so its not just EST then

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schmots:

umm... have a link to that mailing list info?

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spr:

hold on...

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Urgo:

http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users/

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schmots:

so does the mailing list say there might be a fix?

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spr:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . nabb;#122621

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Urgo:

http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-April/082657.html

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Urgo:

they say EST fixes it

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spr:

some dirty hacks to the source.

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psm321:

oh, i am running ntpd if that matters

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GreyFoxx:

Hrm, I'm running 3.3.4 compiled from source with no problem

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** Urgo is not running ntpd **

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Urgo:

I just have a cronjob to do rdate -s at night

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psm321:

but my system clock is correct anyways so that cant be it

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** sarahemm{SA} isn't running regular clocksync stuff because older versions of myth died horribly if you stepped the time while it was recording... **

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Urgo:

yeah

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Urgo:

thats why I do it at 4am

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sarahemm{SA}:

i have a script that runs at 0400 every morning that checks if myth is recording, and if not sync with ntpdate... it syncs most days then, and keeps it good enough :)

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Urgo:

I never record anything then

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psm321:

i think its mythfilldatabase

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sarahemm{SA}:

ahh

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sarahemm{SA}:

we do once in awhile, so i wrote a script to check if it's recording and only sync time if it's not

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psm321:

Grabbing data for Sun Apr 3 2005 offset 1

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psm321:

From : Mon Apr 4 05:00:00 2005 To : Tue Apr 5 05:00:00 2005 (UTC)

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psm321:

so its still using a 5 hour offset

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Urgo:

hmm

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Urgo:

you are right

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** psm321 has to go... **

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psm321:

i'll be back later

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psm321:

and i'll try to sign on from the pace i'm going to... depending on how busy it gets

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Ralpha6:

can anyone recommend a good IR blaster and remote?

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schmots:

ok.. couple of isses this list talks about.. one is an error in datadirect.cpp you can make a change to fix it.. but I don't seem to have a datadirect.cpp

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Cromz:

Ralpha6: I bought that $12 one from the ir blaster site.. and using the grey hauppauge remote works good for me.

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** sarahemm{SA} built one **

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schmots:

build a datadirect.cpp?

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sarahemm{SA}:

err.. no, ir stuff :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

sorry

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schmots:

This program guide thing is driving me nuts..

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hadees:

Ralpha6, niveus remote

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hadees:

Ralpha6, it uses rf (it also is a universal ir remote)

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Ralpha6:

thanks Cromz and hadees

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Cromz:

Ralpha6: http://www.irblaster.info/ ;) I'm lazy didn't want to break out the soldering iron and stuff.. lol why reinvent the wheel

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Cromz:

course I need another serial port.. :/ so I can put my bottlerocket x10 controller back to work lol the mobo I got only has 1 on it. cause who uses serial ports anymore?

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jdrogers:

Cromz, I have one of those.. been thinking of controlling the actual tv using the power button on the remote

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sarahemm{SA}:

schmots: err.. datadirect.cpp is in lib/libmythtv/datadirect.cpp

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sarahemm{SA}:

in your source tree

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Cromz:

jdrogers: I only found 1 module.. had it on the kitchen light. made my wife lazy.. lol turned on at 7pm and off at 11pm. course it probilly had issues with the timezone LOL j/k

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Urgo:

ohh

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Urgo:

I think I might have fixed it

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Urgo:

http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-April/082741.html seems to look promising

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Urgo:

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Virgin /etc/localtime

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opello:

i saw that one :/

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opello:

i didn't really like that idea

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opello:

i tried the mysql TZ env var one too ... but it didn't work

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schmots:

man found a solution I though would work.. just rolling back qt to 3.3.3.. but even rpm yelled saying mysql required 2.2.4

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schmots:

3.3.4

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Urgo:

I didn't want to roll back QT

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Urgo:

would take too long :)

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opello:

40 mins to build :)

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Urgo:

Sat Aug 21 05:32:58 2004 >>> x11-libs/qt-3.3.3

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Urgo:

merge time: 43 minutes and 27 seconds.

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Urgo:

Sun Mar 27 01:42:15 2005 >>> x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r2

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Urgo:

merge time: 38 minutes and 55 seconds.

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Urgo:

true

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schmots:

fedora core.. even a "rpm --upgrade --force qt.rpm didn't do it..

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GreyFoxx:

I just checked 2 systems, 1 running 3.3.3 and one running 3.3.4 and both are working fine timewise+myth

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schmots:

of course the qt.rpm was a real file.

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opello:

genlop :)

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Urgo:

indeed

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Urgo:

gotta love it

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opello:

yup

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Urgo:

I just finally upgaded qt one damn week ago too lol

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Urgo:

if only I waited longer =]

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Cromz:

I was reading somewhere that qt maybe part of the issue with the enter key not working in the selects. but works in the menus.. I just grab my remote if I need to ;)

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bjohnson:

does play dvd play a dvd from the backend machine or the frontend machine?

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GreyFoxx:

the frontend

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Cromz:

probly from the frontend. cause you config what device it is in the frontend.

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Urgo:

well changing my TZ to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Virgin worked for me

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Urgo:

and it syncs to the correct time with time.nist.gov too still

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Urgo:

just using AST instead of EST5EDT now

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schmots:

but is the time right on screen?

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Urgo:

yes

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Urgo:

# date

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Urgo:

Sun Apr 3 20:09:16 AST 2005

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schmots:

what did you do to change the time?

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Urgo:

in gentoo

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Urgo:

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Virgin /etc/localtime

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schmots:

I suck at fedora core

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schmots:

no gentoo on this box.

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schmots:

wait... tconfig...

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schmots:

tzselect rather... man I hate redhat

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Urgo:

hehe

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hadees:

so i am missing data for today

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hadees:

anyone else have that problem?

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schmots:

so your using the virgin island

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schmots:

UK or US?

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hadees:

US

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hadees:

so how can i fix this...

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Urgo:

hmm

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Urgo:

US probably

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Urgo:

america

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Urgo:

America/Virgin

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Beirdo:

I guess today is the day where we see how many people have their timezones wrong

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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schmots:

mine was right.. I am making it wrong.

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opello:

indeed, mine was right too, US/Central

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sarahemm{SA}:

Beirdo: heh. mine seems fine :)

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Beirdo:

US/Central isn't a timezone

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Beirdo:

CST6CDT is

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schmots:

well time is fixed... program list still off.. doh.. I have to clear and redownload don't I.

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GreyFoxx:

I just checked 10 seperate myth installs and all seem to be happy

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opello:

and...

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opello:

opello@inspiron ~ $ md5sum /usr/share/zoneinfo/CST6CDT /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central

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opello:

15dfb869e437999666a9ad37b8df71fb /usr/share/zoneinfo/CST6CDT

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opello:

15dfb869e437999666a9ad37b8df71fb /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central

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bjohnson:

yeah frontend

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** opello thinks they're the same enough **

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schmots:

do I just end the backend and mythfilldetabase or do I have to delete the programs list

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bjohnson:

but I can't figure out how to select the proper audio track

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bjohnson:

I just get the director commentary

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schmots:

welp.. emptied programs table..

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schmots:

running mythfill...

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opello:

if i set it to CST6CDT, will it magically work if i refill the db?

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hadees:

so did anyone figure out how to fix the time zone problem with zap2it

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sarahemm{SA}:

hmm....

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sarahemm{SA}:

now i'm worried :P

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sarahemm{SA}:

is anyone not having problem?

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Beirdo:

hadees: there's no problem here

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GreyFoxx:

None here, nor on the 10 myth installs I just checked

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hadees:

Beirdo, i have the time zone right, my computer clock is UTC and my time zone is chicago

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opello:

Beirdo: do you use the _STn_DT to symlink? does it specifically check for those or something?

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hadees:

Beirdo, so what do i need to change then?

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Beirdo:

why are you using UTC on your system clock?

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Beirdo:

set it to the correct timezone, and let er rip

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sarahemm{SA}:

GreyFoxx: okay, cool.

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opello:

aha

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sarahemm{SA}:

mine seems okay, i was worried...

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Beirdo:

I use EST5EDT

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Beirdo:

I don't trust the America/Blah ones

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hadees:

because the timezone adjusts it

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bjohnson:

what is a transcoding daemon? I have transcode but it isn't a daemon

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opello:

there's also US/Central, which is what i use as it's more descrpitive — and i checked when i switched to those that they were the same files

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opello:

i'll try to not use UTC for the hwclock though

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Beirdo:

hadees: so what does date report

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hadees:

Sun Apr 3 19:23:42 CDT 2005

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hadees:

but the tv guide is an hour behind

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hadees:

this seems to me to be a zap2it problem

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Beirdo:

works fine here

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Beirdo:

clear your guide and reload it

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hadees:

i didn't have any data for today

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hadees:

then i refreshed it with mythfilldatabase

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captmiddy:

I am having a problem with time since my clock shifted last night, is there an easy way to fix this?

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sarahemm{SA}:

gah

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sarahemm{SA}:

we need to put this in the channel topic :P

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hadees:

how do i clear the data?

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opello:

how do you clear it? just DELETE FROM program ?

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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Beirdo:

yes.

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schmots:

I go into mysql via phpmyadmin and do an empty on the program table

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Beirdo:

and shutdown your backend or it might go apeshit

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Urgo:

hmm

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schmots:

really.. I though your backend was supposed to be running when you did a mythfilldatabase

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Beirdo:

I meant when you empty the table

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schmots:

ah.. I have never seen to have any trouble when I erase mine..

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captmiddy:

is there a quick way to truncate a mysql table?

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hadees:

i think this is the problem, From : Sun Apr 3 06:00:00 2005 To : Mon Apr 4 06:00:00 2005 (UTC)

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hadees:

its not looking for the time after adjusting it for the time zone

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hadees:

so i guess the only way to fix this is to change the hardware clock to local

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schmots:

my hardware clock was local

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GreyFoxx:

I've got all my clocks set to local

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Urgo:

hmm. How often does the scheduler run? I have the times in the guide right but it looks like its still set to record the wrong times

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Beirdo:

Urgo: restart your backend

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Urgo:

using America/New_York

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Urgo:

k Beirdo, thanks

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Urgo:

hmm still didn't help

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captmiddy:

I dropped my programs table, refilled the database, and restarted the backend, still listing shows an hour early

[01:35:00]

Urgo:

example: in guide it says 24 is on tomorrow at 9pm. but under recorded programs (using mythweb) it says its on at 8pm

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schmots:

Grey I have all my clocks to local to... still have a screwed up program guide

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opello:

hadees: i did that, still no fix

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Urgo:

argh this is pissing me off lol

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opello:

the times are right, but the guide data is an hour shifted into the past

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jemarcks:

hmmmm.. looks like daylight savings time nuked mythtv somehow lol

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Cromz:

schmots: I used America/Menominee ( sounds like something from the muppets ) but mine is right now. CST/CDT

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schmots:

what is your normal timezone?

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Cromz:

CST/CDT

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schmots:

see I am EST/EDT

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schmots:

-5

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** sarahemm{SA} too **

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Cromz:

oh I thought you was cst/cdt sorry hehe

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opello:

Cromz: that fixed it?

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Cromz:

ya

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** sarahemm{SA} is set to Canada/Eastern and has no issues **

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Cromz:

I ran mythfilldatabase --refresh-today to see and it's all lined up.

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hadees:

opello, there no linking?

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** topping just brought home a couple xboxen for frontends **

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schmots:

umm canda eastern... and your in the states right Ma'am

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opello:

hadees: the guide isn't 'right' — trying that 'switch zones' fix ...

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sarahemm{SA}:

no, i'm in Canada.... Eastern.

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sarahemm{SA}:

cool topping

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sarahemm{SA}:

they work well

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topping:

sarahemm{SA}: running softmod?

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schmots:

ummm.. sarahemm.. what time is it by you?

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sarahemm{SA}:

soldered the jumpers and flashed the bios topping

[01:45:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

still, no mod chip

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sarahemm{SA}:

schmots: 2046ish

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schmots:

welp... Gonna switch the timezone to our neighbors to the north of this virgian island doens't fix it.

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schmots:

ya'll follow daylight savings?

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Randall64:

I wonder why fc3 is modprobing parport_pc on ppc64.

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topping:

sarahemm{SA}: can i pm you?

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Beirdo:

wonder why you don't ask in #fedora

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opello:

Cromz: ick, that did fix it :) but i'd like a fix using the 'right' timezone

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hadees:

do the upcoming recordings link to the program?

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Beirdo:

opello: exactly what is your timezone set to

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opello:

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Menominee /etc/localtime

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Beirdo:

sigh

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captmiddy:

tried canadian eastern, still getting wrong times

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opello:

that's what Cromz said worked for central – you have a 'real' fix?

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opello:

i'll gladly try it

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Beirdo:

EST5EDT for Eastern

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Beirdo:

CST6CDT for Central

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opello:

they're the same zoneinfo files!

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schmots:

besihds tzselect how do you change timezones in fedora core?

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Beirdo:

ln -s

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schmots:

that does work?

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Beirdo:

opello: well have fun then

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opello:

Beirdo: i'm trying it, if it works then the mythfilldatabase program isn't properly doing something

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captmiddy:

it seems it is in the fill function

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hadees:

opello, it is mythfilldatabase

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Beirdo:

mythfilldatabase has always worked fine here

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hadees:

2005-04–03 19:51:33.352 mythfilldatabase: Listings Download Started

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hadees:

Refreshing Today's data

[01:51:00]

hadees:

Retrieving datadirect data...

[01:51:00]

hadees:

Grabbing data for Sun Apr 3 2005 offset 0

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hadees:

From : Sun Apr 3 06:00:00 2005 To : Mon Apr 4 06:00:00 2005 (UTC)

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** Beirdo shrugs **

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opello:

Beirdo: didn't work, but i didn't restart anything

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opello:

need to restart the backend?

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Beirdo:

YES

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captmiddy:

I am checking in mysql itself

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hadees:

but date is Sun Apr 3 19:53:00 CDT 2005

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Beirdo:

if you mess around with system time, you need to restart the backend

[01:53:00]

Beirdo:

what distros are you guys using (in case there's a common factor)?

[01:53:00]

opello:

and completely refetch data?

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opello:

gentoo

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captmiddy:

gentoo here as well

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Beirdo:

and I know hadees is gentoo

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Beirdo:

well there's the common link :)

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captmiddy:

well didn't someone else mention fedora core up above?

[01:54:00]

opello:

what are you using, out of curiosity

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Beirdo:

FC1

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schmots:

I am fc3

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captmiddy:

schmots: are you having problems as well?

[01:55:00]

schmots:

yeah.

[01:55:00]

schmots:

trying timezone number 4

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Urgo:

yay! got it working!

[01:56:00]

schmots:

nope... not working.

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captmiddy:

how?

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schmots:

anyone have a suggestion for American/New_york time zone to get it working?

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Urgo:

sec captmiddy

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schmots:

I am not in Central time.

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schmots:

I am Eastern Time.

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Urgo:

schmots: didn't work

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Urgo:

schmots: because thats EDT

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captmiddy:

are you saying that it only works if you make it think you are EST?

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Beirdo:

schmots: EST5EDT

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schmots:

what?

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Beirdo:

period

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schmots:

how do I do that in fedora core?

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Beirdo:

that's the damn timezone

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schmots:

I can do it in debian... I can do it gentoo... Redhat is all messed up.

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Beirdo:

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT /etc/localtime

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schmots:

as root?

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captmiddy:

schmots: yes

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Urgo:

http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZKnjUi89.txt

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Urgo:

check that for what I did

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schmots:

ok.. did now just kill backend and restart it.

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Beirdo:

Urgo: that's just wrong

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Beirdo:

you aren't in the Virgin Islands

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schmots:

or do I have to reboot?

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Urgo:

no reboots needed

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Urgo:

but yeah Beirdo, I know..

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Urgo:

Beirdo: but I'm going away for a week tomorrow morning

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Urgo:

I need a fix now :)

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Urgo:

and this works currently.. hopefully they wont "fix it for real" tomorrow :)

[02:01:00]

opello:

Grab complete. Actual data from Wed Apr 13 06:00:00 2005 to Thu Apr 14 06:00:00 2005 (UTC)

[02:01:00]

opello:

Clearing from Wed Apr 13 00:00:00 2005 to Thu Apr 14 00:00:00 2005 (localtime)

[02:01:00]

opello:

doesn't look like it's working for DST? or am i misreading

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Urgo:

6–6 is right for you opello

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Urgo:

err

[02:02:00]

Urgo:

no

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Urgo:

5–5

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opello:

yeah

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Urgo:

4–4 is what I'm using now

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schmots:

ok.. ln'd edt5est to localtime.. killed and restarted backend...

[02:03:00]

opello:

Beirdo: still nope

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schmots:

runing mythfilldatabase --refresh-today

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schmots:

when that stops.. I will restart the front end and hope for the best.

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|rt|:

schmots is your guide data off by 1 hour as well?

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|rt|:

i've run into this as well

[02:05:00]

schmots:

yeah

[02:05:00]

schmots:

its a qt issue.

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|rt|:

already tried the run mythfilldatabase

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schmots:

you have to fudge your timezone to get it right...

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schmots:

so I hear.

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|rt|:

yeah that appears to be the case....i downgraded qt as someone said this worked for them but didn't fix it

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captmiddy:

a qt issue?

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|rt|:

apparently it's a myth issue though as most qt programs do not have this problem

[02:05:00]

schmots:

problem with the way qt 3.3.4 counts time.

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schmots:

front end starting... here goes everything.

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|rt|:

qt did recently change this behaviour and my guess is that myth just isn't dealing with this change properly

[02:06:00]

schmots:

YEEEESSSSSS

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captmiddy:

well not much I can do about that then

[02:07:00]

GreyFoxx:

schmots: I don't think it's QT as I have systems using 3.3.2 through 3.3.4 all working fine

[02:07:00]

Beirdo:

I'm running qt 3.3.3, no problems here

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schmots:

its working its working.

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|rt|:

the odd thing is myth does record the proper channel at the proper time

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captmiddy:

schmots: what di dyou do to fix it?

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|rt|:

the guide is just off by an hour

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|rt|:

so this problem is just in how the db is being parsed and displayed in the front end

[02:08:00]

GreyFoxx:

I've checked 11 systems, running different versions of slackwre from 9.1 through 10.1, using QT 3.3.2 through 3.3.4, and all set to Canada/Atlantic, all set to the system clock as localtime, and not one is having this problem

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|rt|:

in the guide

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schmots:

ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT /etc/localtime

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Urgo:

what timezone are you in again for real schmots?

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captmiddy:

|rt|: the database has the wrong times too

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opello:

that didn't do it for me in CST6CDT

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|rt|:

ah well my box seems to be recording stuff properly

[02:09:00]

|rt|:

the guide is just off by an hour

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opello:

at least the guide is off :/

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Cromz:

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StringBlade:

as a non-timezone-related question, anyone ever use a non-hauppauge remote with the hauppauge IR receiver? and did you have to do anything special in LIRC to get it to recognize the other remote?

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opello:

Cromz: yeah, i did, and i cleared the data, and it's still an hour 'left'

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Cromz:

opello: doh!

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captmiddy:

apparently the hauppauge receiver will only respond to the singals from the hauppauge remotes

[02:11:00]

StringBlade:

captmiddy: according to LIRC's FAQ, they say any RC5 remote should work. Has Hauppauge changed the protocol they use?

[02:12:00]

opello:

`date` is right, guide says john q on cbs started at 7pm

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opello:

however, it started at ... 8, 12 minutes ago

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captmiddy:

no idea, I just know that the instructions from lirc I saw was that it would only respond to the signals that its own remote will transmit

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StringBlade:

meh, ok

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captmiddy:

so if you remote transmits the same singal it will work apparently

[02:13:00]

StringBlade:

captmiddy: do you know if it's possible to have two IR receivers hooked up and working at the same time? (one Hauppauge and one UIR serial)

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StringBlade:

basically, I'd like to move away from my Hauppauge remote to a universal remote I've got

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captmiddy:

StringBlade: never seen that possible

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StringBlade:

using an IRman

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StringBlade:

yeah, that's what I thought

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StringBlade:

since LIRC is compiled for only one type of receiver/transmitter

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captmiddy:

I made one of the homemade IR receivers though to replace my Hauppauge one completely

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StringBlade:

essentially IRman is a homebrew receiver

[02:15:00]

StringBlade:

just costs more :-)

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captmiddy:

I wouldn't be so sure it really costs more

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captmiddy:

I didn't have any of the supplies to make one, so I had to buy everything including the soldering iron

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StringBlade:

this is just an interrim solution though anyway – I'm looking to buy a MyBlaster to replace all the above

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StringBlade:

'cause I need a transmitter to control my Dish receiver

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StringBlade:

and I'm just not good enough with soldering my own components to build an ir transmitter

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StringBlade:

though the circuit diagram doesn't look that difficult

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captmiddy:

I will say this, my joints were really ugly but they worked.

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hadees:

Beirdo, well its works now, now i am kind of wondering why that worked, i had the right time zone before and the onlything that wasn't working was mythfillbackend

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captmiddy:

hadees: what did you do to fix it?

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Beirdo:

hard to say...

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|rt|:

well mythweb is also off an hour

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|rt|:

which makes it sound like a database problem

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captmiddy:

the database is the problem

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captmiddy:

I went into mysql at the command line and the database has the wrong times

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captmiddy:

could probably write a script to change all the times by an hours but it would be ugly and time consuming

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|rt|:

and the next mythfilldatabase would undo it

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captmiddy:

true

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Urgo:

To fix the time problem for EST: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZKnjUi89.txt

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captmiddy:

I am curious why the offset in mythsetup doesn't seem to work

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opello:

i manually set it in the database, it doesn't seem to matter at all

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captmiddy:

Urgo: does the time on your computer still show the right time?

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Urgo:

yes captmiddy

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captmiddy:

I use this computer for work as well

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Urgo:

# date

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Urgo:

Sun Apr 3 21:24:28 AST 2005

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Urgo:

its 9:24 now

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Beirdo:

Urgo: that doesn't fix the problem

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Urgo:

fixed it for me

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Beirdo:

that fucks everything up

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|rt|:

that hides the issue

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Beirdo:

you aren't in AST

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Beirdo:

you are in EDT

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Urgo:

so?

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Urgo:

=]

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opello:

Beirdo: your solution still hasn't worked for me...

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Urgo:

but all the times are working

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GreyFoxx:

especially sind ast is not valid right now :)

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Beirdo:

so you may be fine with it, but it's not the right way to fix it

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Urgo:

I'm fine with it until a real solution is presented. It works for now

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captmiddy:

well it certainly isn't a solution, it would be nice to know why it is doing it so that a real solution can be found

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|rt|:

refreshing today's listings seems to have fixed it here

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|rt|:

atleast in mythweb

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captmiddy:

I have refreshed today, purged the entire program table and refreshed the entire database, dropped my listings and replaaced with a new set. If I keep my timezone as it should be it doesn't work

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|rt|:

captmiddy: what version of QT?

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|rt|:

i went back to 3.3.3 here dunno if that has anything to do with it or not

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captmiddy:

I am on 3.3.4

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|rt|:

i'm about to upgrade back to 3.3.4

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|rt|:

so we'll see if the problem resurfaces

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captmiddy:

looks like a jump back to 3.3.3 is in my future

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captmiddy:

http://www.phpexamples.net/component/option,c . . . 513~0145.htm

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gr8nash-home:

hi guys.. anyone useing an HD3000 for OTA HighDef?

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captmiddy:

that says it is because QT fixed a bug in its date mechanisms for 3.3.4, but looks like myth was probably working around it

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|rt|:

got a could not be found on that url

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captmiddy:

odd...works here

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captmiddy:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-318546-h . . . -mythtv.html

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|rt|:

yeah i already saw that one

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|rt|:

that's why i tried to go back

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captmiddy:

I can't rebuild everything I would need to right now, I run KDE on this machine, so I will just ignore the problem for now

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gr8nash-home:

let me rephase the question in hopes of sparking memeory.. has anyone heard of a local OTA HD channel not working in myth

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gr8nash-home:

all my channels work but 1 channel..it works with mplayer not with MYTH

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opello:

looks like older qt is the way to go

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captmiddy:

gr8nash-home: I haven't read anything about such a problem, but I don't have an HD card so can't say Ihave any real experience

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gr8nash-home:

captmiddy ok no problem.. =)

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gr8nash-home:

im sure they must broadcast alittle differnt and its screwing myth up

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gr8nash-home:

its on 3 different HD boxes i have buildt.. and sometimes it work ok in myth.. most of the time "waiting to long for buffer read"

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gr8nash-home:

ohh well bleeding edge sucks =)

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captmiddy:

|rt|: yea, and when I get a chance I will recompile the important things to go back to 3.3.3, or maybe someone will have a patch for myth to make 3.3.4 work okay

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GreyFoxx:

why would you need to compile more than just qt to switch qt versions?

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opello:

static linking?

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poonj:

hey guys, anyone here get dvb to work?

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GreyFoxx:

I suppose, but not a very common issue :)

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captmiddy:

no because KDE libs compiles fixes based on QT version

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GreyFoxx:

yay my kid fell asleep. I can put her to bed now

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captmiddy:

so they work around bugs in QT in the KDE Defines,

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hadees:

schmots, you should restart your clock

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Agrajag-:

poonj: yeah im using dvb

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poonj:

Agrajag-: I'

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GreyFoxx:

Captain_Murdoch_: Ahh. Not a dedicated myth box ?:)

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GreyFoxx:

errr captm: Ahh. Not a dedicated myth box ?:)

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captmiddy:

no

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poonj:

Agrajag-: I'm trying to use dvb with pcHDTV 3000. my question is...do I need ot still setup the aliases in modules.conf for the device?

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captmiddy:

I had a dedicated box which kept crashing so I moved my tv card to my workstation

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poonj:

Agrajag-: or do I leave it out entirely and have the dvb software take over?

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GreyFoxx:

captmiddy: Ahhh. Ok, cause otherwise KDE would be a mahjor waste :)

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captmiddy:

yup

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captmiddy:

I recently got a new motherboard for the old dedicated box, so I will likely move back to a dedicated box and use the workstation as a secondary slave

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Agrajag-:

poonj: no idea, i dont use a pchdtv.. but im pretty sure you would still need aliases, you still need the modules loaded and all

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captmiddy:

an amd 2500+ with 512M of ram is a bit overkill for just a frontend

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poonj:

Agrajag-: okay

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poonj:

I'm getting a blank screen using dvb...but I don't know if its because I'm loading both the dvb and the old v4l2 drivers

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poonj:

or if its because I'm loading the modules incorrectly

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GreyFoxx:

captmiddy: heh

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StringBlade:

is there any way to restart a process that dies besides using 'respawn' in inittab? Mythfrontend keeps dying on my after several hours of inactivity as soon as I try to do something. I just want it to restart automatically.

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dlstsux:

hi, is there a way to fix my tvlistings? daylight savings time made them all off by an hour. i can't figure it out

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captmiddy:

dlstsux: version of QT?

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dlstsux:

captmiddy let me see

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dlstsux:

1:3.3.4–5.0.2.kde

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captmiddy:

dlstsux: apparently 3.3.4 has a fix for an old qt bug which mythtv had been working around and the work around is now causing a time shift

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dlstsux:

capt would demping the database tomorrow then redoing it fix this?

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dlstsux:

demp=dumping

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captmiddy:

not sure, I dumped my program listing and refilled the database and it didn't solve anything

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schmots:

dlstsux.. yes

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schmots:

what timezone are you in?

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dlstsux:

PDT

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dlstsux:

i spent hours last night trying to figure this out:)

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schmots:

try this..

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schmots:

ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime

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schmots:

then stop and restart your backend.

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schmots:

then do a mythfilldatabase --refresh-today

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schmots:

than start yoru front end.

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schmots:

the EST version of that worked for me.

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captmiddy:

I guess I am lucky, I only have 1 program scheduled today and nothing till Wednesday again

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captmiddy:

schmots: are you using 3.3.4 of qt?

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dlstsux:

ok letm e see

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schmots:

sigh.. yeah

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dlstsux:

thanks

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schmots:

yeah..

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schmots:

I only built my myth box yesterday... image how mad I was when the program guide scr

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schmots:

stopped working.

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schmots:

after 4 hours

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captmiddy:

schmots: what distro?

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schmots:

I am unfortunatly a fedora core 3 user

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schmots:

but only for myth

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dlstsux:

ok trying this out:)

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captmiddy:

this seems rather odd that 3.3.4 works on some distros but not others, but then with all the patching the distros do to packages who is really that surprised

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dlstsux:

i'm on fc2 myself

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dlstsux:

mythtv .16

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dlstsux:

.17 didn't seem to fix it

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dlstsux:

so i went back to what i knew was stable for me

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schmots:

did you try that timezone thing.. thats all that fixed it for me.

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schmots:

I worked all weekend on this.

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dlstsux:

scho: filling the database now:)

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GreyFoxx:

captmiddy: I'm running qt 3.3.4 (manually compiled) on Slackware with no problems

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captmiddy:

GreyFoxx: not very surprised, it could be a gentoo patch that is causing my grief

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dlstsux:

schmots same problem here:(

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GreyFoxx:

I was waiting to see if I would run into any and happily, none. I was expecting a flood of calls from people who I have setup with myth boxes but so far they are all working fine

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dlstsux:

i'll just dump the database tomrrow then redo it

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schmots:

dlstsux... did you stop and start yoru backend?

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dlstsux:

yea

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schmots:

sorry..

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schmots:

it worked for me.

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dlstsux:

but before i filled the database

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dlstsux:

should i have done it after?

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dlstsux:

schmots it's ok. thanks for the help.

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dlstsux:

let me start/restart it again

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schmots:

yeah stop backend.. start backend.. fill db.. start frontend.

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schmots:

all of that after you link the timezone.

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|rt|:

schmots: well i'm running gentoo

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|rt|:

for the time being things are ok here

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schmots:

if that still doesn't do it.. just hang in here for a bit.. then someone else from your timezone will also no the timezone to use.

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|rt|:

but AT 3.3.4 is recompiling now

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schmots:

it seems to be a cross between 3.3.4 and timezone.

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|rt|:

AT = QT

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Beirdo:

boy, the FUD level here is high today

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captmiddy:

|rt|: did you have to rebuild mythtv after you changed qt to 3.3.3?

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StringBlade:

Beirdo: if it makes you feel any better, I didn't do anything any my MythTV changed right along with the clock

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StringBlade:

FC3 here

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Beirdo:

so did mine

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Beirdo:

and pretty well anybody else who had things configured right :)

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StringBlade:

dunno, maybe Gentoo is weird – never used it

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** sarahemm{SA} 's backend and frontends are all gentoo **

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sarahemm{SA}:

no clock issues

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dlstsux:

so you guys think it's worthwild to compile qt myself?

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captmiddy:

sarahemm{SA}: which version of qt are you up to?

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sarahemm{SA}:

i don't think i've touched it since i installed... lemme check.

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sarahemm{SA}:

3.1.2-r4 it looks like

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captmiddy:

sarahemm{SA}: well there you go, that is old enough that the problem wasn't fixed yet in QT

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sarahemm{SA}:

err...

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sarahemm{SA}:

so the problem being fixed broke it?

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GreyFoxx:

still doesn't explain all the systems running 3.3.4 that are not seeing this

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emes:

anyone gotten mythfrontend to work on ppc?

[03:05:00]

emes:

i compiled it, but it crashed when playing video

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dlstsux:

are you guys sure i'ts not a mysql issue instead of a qt one?

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emes:

i assume it's getting messed up with the edianness

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sarahemm{SA}:

emes: .17 is supposed to work cleanly.. that's the ver you're trying?

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captmiddy:

dlstsux: guess it could be

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emes:

no, my backend is .16

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sarahemm{SA}:

err.. okay.

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sarahemm{SA}:

iirc frontends on ppc just started working in .17

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captmiddy:

dlstsux: what version of mysql are you running?

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emes:

ok

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Beirdo:

you are already one version behind, emes

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dlstsux:

3.23.58–9.1

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captmiddy:

I am on 4.0.24

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emes:

Beirdo: tell the gentoo people to mark .17 stable

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Beirdo:

why should I?

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emes:

so people stop using .16?

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sarahemm{SA}:

emes: .16 works just fine on x86 :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

ppc is still very new for myth.

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captmiddy:

emes just mark it stable for yourself and report it on bugs.gentoo.org that you think it is stable

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** GreyFoxx fires on Dr Who and feels like a kid again **

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sarahemm{SA}:

if you want to run it, you're still free to. there's an ebuild..

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dlstsux:

i tried .17 last night and i had problems with mythweb's manual record option

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dlstsux:

i ran back to .16

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** sarahemm{SA} is still running on .16.. **

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emes:

ok, fine fine :P

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sarahemm{SA}:

have been for a couple months, no issues really.

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Randall64:

emes: Trying to install FC3 currently. I'll let you know :)

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dlstsux:

me also. it's been really stable.

[03:09:00]

dlstsux:

besides this time issue

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** emes boots back to os X for the .16 mythfrontend **

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dlstsux:

i'll just dump then redo the database tomorrow

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dlstsux:

and keep my fingers crossed

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Randall64:

emes: You're not running 0.17?

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emes:

Ralpha6: no

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** Randall64 coughs **

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emes:

oops

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emes:

tab completion :)

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Beirdo:

anyone who is still running 0.16 shouldn't be expecting much support

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Randall64:

nope

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StringBlade:

Is it just me, or are several of the MythTv themes missing the "recording_options" screen? PurpleGalaxy, MinimalistWide, and Visor come to mind

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Randall64:

I'm all kinds of tired of restarting this install.

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** sarahemm{SA} runs it, but expects little support :) **

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sarahemm{SA}:

the CC issue has been there since like .12 so i doubt .17 will fix it :)

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Beirdo:

sarahemm{SA}: you'll need to work from CVS at some point to make patches though

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sarahemm{SA}:

yep.

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sarahemm{SA}:

my devel backend is going to run cvs

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sarahemm{SA}:

the live backend for the house will run the latest stable

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Beirdo:

which is 0.17

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Beirdo:

:)

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sarahemm{SA}:

well, something close to the latest stable ;)

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sarahemm{SA}:

i need to coordinate the upgrade to .17 with solar soon.

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topping:

sarahemm{SA}: is your xbox 1.6?

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sarahemm{SA}:

1.5

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sarahemm{SA}:

why?

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topping:

mine are 1.6, looking to get a primer

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Randall64:

I wish yaboot didn't utterly fail with double //

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topping:

no flash on 1.6

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topping:

first run of this stuff is always slowwww

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sarahemm{SA}:

ahh =-/ i dunno.

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topping:

ever heard of any channels that people chat about?

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sarahemm{SA}:

cool.

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sarahemm{SA}:

just discussed the upgrade plan to .17 with solar, we'll do it tonite.

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Beirdo:

neat

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sarahemm{SA}:

and if i could get the #@%*ing TV card working in the devel box... *giggle*

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Beirdo:

maybe it needs a bit more $@$!ING

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tyir:

anyone here I can ask a couple simple hardware questions?

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sarahemm{SA}:

lol Beirdo

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sarahemm{SA}:

i can get a black screen, but i can't even get *static* on it... it's weird.

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: i can try.

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StringBlade:

Beirdo: is there someplace I can find more info about how to create a Theme?

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Beirdo:

dunno

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tyir:

thanks, my situation is I have a box PIII 933/256MG ram, with a vid card that has no Tv-out, which I want to turn to a mythtv box

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StringBlade:

oh, I got the feeling you were one of the main developers of this thing

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Beirdo:

I help out some, but I have no clue on the themes

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tyir:

So from what I have read, the best thing to do is either get a Hauppauge PVR-350 or a PVR-250 with a Nvidia 5200 with Tv-out, or something

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Beirdo:

Geckofiend would likely know more if he's in

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: yep, that sounds about right.

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StringBlade:

just trying to figure out why the 'blue' theme and 'default' themes have about 100+ files in their respective folders, but the other themes have somewhere between 30 – 50

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: the alternative is to get a plain tv card and encode into MPEG in software.

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tyir:

would the second one (PVR-250 with Nvidia with TV-out) allow recording while watching live tv of another channel?

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sarahemm{SA}:

no...

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sarahemm{SA}:

you still only have one tuner

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sarahemm{SA}:

you need as many tuners as you want streams of video at once

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tyir:

Ok, right, that's what I had thought

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sarahemm{SA}:

to record (1) and watch live tv (2) you need either two PVR-250s or the new dual-tuner PVR-500 (which isn't well supported yet)

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tyir:

Right

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sarahemm{SA}:

also, you probably dont' care, but the PVR-xxx cards don't reliably support closed captioning yet.

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jams:

StringBlade, most of that is images

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dlstsux:

hmm are most people that have issues with teh time change people that are fedora?

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dlstsux:

maybe it's the rpm's

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topping:

i thought the 500 was functionally equivilent to two 150's, no?

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jams:

really the two main files to get you started are theme.xml and ui.xml

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StringBlade:

jams: yes, but some of it must be layout/config. I want to "unbreak" visor so I can record shows — it complains the theme does not have a 'recording_options' screen

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thor:

dlstsux: nope, I had it on gentoo here. Downgrading qt to 3.3.3, restarting backend, and running mythfilldatabase fixed it for me.

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sarahemm{SA}:

topping: it is, yes.

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tyir:

SO what would the nvidia card do *exactly*. So the Hauppauge takes the video in from cable, encodes it, and stores to the HD, and the Nvidia would play it back in realtime and sent it to the TV through the Tv-out?

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sarahemm{SA}:

exactly tyir.

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topping:

the 150 is pretty stable over the last month

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sarahemm{SA}:

almost-realtime. few seconds lag usually iirc.

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sarahemm{SA}:

topping: yes, but the PVR-500 isn't quite there yet :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

it's almost equivelant, but not quite i guess.

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tyir:

But the PVR-350 could do both in just the one PCI card, right?

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topping:

ah ok

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topping:

hehe

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jams:

StringBlade, look in those two files I mentioned

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: exactly.

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jams:

most likely ui.xml

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StringBlade:

jams: I looked at them...they weren't exactly self-explanitory :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: plus, the -350 does MPEG2 decoding in hardware. the Nvidia card relies on the software to decode the MPEG

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StringBlade:

jams: some comments would be nice

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tyir:

SO if i didn't have a TV-out card (which I dont) it would probably be best to get the PVR-350?

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: if you only want one tuner, yes.

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tyir:

I wouldn't want ot game or play DVDS or anything

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tyir:

but if I wanted two tuners, I coudl get a 350 and a 250... or I could wait a bit and see hor support for 500 turns out?

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tyir:

see how support

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dhofstra:

StringBlade: might give this a lookover http://stealthboy.dyndns.org/~msherman/mythtv_theme_howto.html

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dlstsux:

ok i still have the 3.3.3 rpm here

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dlstsux:

i wonder if it wll break my kde 3.4 setup

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: exactly.

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dlstsux:

going backwards

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sarahemm{SA}:

knowing the community, i bet -500 support will be fairly stable fairly soon.. but who knows.

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tyir:

Cool... thanks a bunch

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sarahemm{SA}:

welkies! :)

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** sarahemm{SA} still back in software encoding cheap-tuner land :P **

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tyir:

Oh, sorry, one more thing

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jams:

StringBlade, just checked what your looking for is in ui.xml

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StringBlade:

jams: yeah, I just found it too

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tyir:

SO with one tuner, I could record, and watch the recording in (near-real)time

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StringBlade:

need to check visor for it now

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tyir:

with 2, I could record one, and watch another, or record 2, and be watching one of the recorded shows?

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StringBlade:

dhofstra: thanks — ironically, the section I need is TODO ;P

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tmorton:

Beirdo, whats up man

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Beirdo:

not much

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: exactly.

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Mrgoose:

yo

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sarahemm{SA}:

hihi Mrgoose

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psm321:

hey guys... do we have a DST fix yet?

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CoolerQ:

psm321, I was just about to ask about DST... so it's a know bug?

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CoolerQ:

s/know/known/

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psm321:

seems like it

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CoolerQ:

I restarted mythbackend/apache and still everything is shifted an hour

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Beirdo:

Jeeez

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psm321:

nobody seemed to have a definite answer... it was working for some people and not for others

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psm321:

Beirdo: ?

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Beirdo:

if none of you people put in a bug, it will not even get looked at

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Beirdo:

first

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Beirdo:

are you sure your timezone is set right?

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CoolerQ:

the computer shows

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psm321:

mine is set to EST5EDT

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CoolerQ:

hercules vhosts # date

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CoolerQ:

Sun Apr 3 22:40:12 EDT 2005

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psm321:

and the clock is correct

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Beirdo:

secondly, what version of myt?

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Beirdo:

myth even

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psm321:

cvs after 0.17

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CoolerQ:

the clock is correct, and it knows EDT now

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CoolerQ:

mine is 0.17 release

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Beirdo:

some people were saying it might be a Qt bug or some sorts

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Beirdo:

drop the contents of your programs table, and re-run mythfilldatabase

[03:45:00]

Beirdo:

see if that helps

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Beirdo:

after which, restart the backend

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CoolerQ:

is it safe to drop the table completely?

[03:45:00]

CoolerQ:

or should I just DELETE FROM programs; ?

[03:45:00]

Beirdo:

many of us have no issues at all

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Beirdo:

delete from

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tyir:

sarahemm{SA}: another question: in the Gentoo mythtv guide I read through, the sample config was with a PVR-350 with a Geforce TV-out.. what would be the point of a Tv-out card if you had a 350?

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Beirdo:

I said drop the CONTENTS :)

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topping:

well, that was an unentertaining waste of a day

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CoolerQ:

but you said drop :)

[03:46:00]

topping:

xbox 1.6... not usable

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topping:

lol

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psm321:

Beirdo: could you give me what commands to run? i'm not very good with mysql

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CoolerQ:

it's safe to delete the contents... it's not going to screw up scheduled recordings?

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: imaybe it was an older guide?

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psm321:

i got the feeling that the problem stems from mythfilldatabase because:

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Beirdo:

your scheduled contents will be wrong

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: output on the -350 took awhile to be supported... these days, i see no reason to use a config like that.

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psm321:

Grabbing data for Sun Apr 3 2005 offset 1

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psm321:

From : Mon Apr 4 05:00:00 2005 To : Tue Apr 5 05:00:00 2005 (UTC)

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CoolerQ:

but there's no program IDs or anything that will be screwed up by trashing it?

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tyir:

sarahemm{SA}: oh, ok, thanks again :D

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Beirdo:

don't think so, you will be filling the database after

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sarahemm{SA}:

welkies tyir :)

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psm321:

so mythfilldatabase still thinks offset is 5 hours

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psm321:

when it should be 4

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StringBlade:

psm321: my mythfilldatabase also shows 5, but in the schedule it really is the correct time

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Mrgoose:

any idea why i get sound when i watch live tv, but when im playing a dvd in xine i dont get any sound?

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psm321:

ok so is this right: mysql -u mythtv -D mythconverg -p

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psm321:

and then DELETE FROM programs;

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psm321:

?

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Beirdo:

it might be "program" not "programs"

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psm321:

ok

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Beirdo:

but other than that, yes

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psm321:

and then do i mythfilldatabase first or restart backend first?

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psm321:

or do i kill backend before the delete?

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StringBlade:

mrgoose: is xine set up to the same audio device as Myth?

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Beirdo:

best to kill the backend, yes

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Mrgoose:

StringBlade: dunno, how do i check

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Beirdo:

then mess with it, then restart it

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CoolerQ:

says

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CoolerQ:

Grabbing data for Sun Apr 3 2005 offset 1

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CoolerQ:

From : Mon Apr 4 05:00:00 2005 To : Tue Apr 5 05:00:00 2005 (UTC)

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StringBlade:

mrgoose: run xine and open up the settings dialog

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CoolerQ:

it's running...

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StringBlade:

mrgoose: you may have to change the detail level to "master" or something like that to see more stuff on the audio tab

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Mrgoose:

all i see in the audio tab is speaker arrangment

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StringBlade:

mrgoose: are you using digital output or regular line out?

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Mrgoose:

regular line out

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StringBlade:

mrgoose: ok, hang on. I'm on the wrong PC — gonna leave and come back on the right one ;) BrB

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CoolerQ:

Beirdo, mythfilldatabase whined that it couldn't talk to mythbackend...

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psm321:

same here

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sarahemm{SA}:

heya CoolerQ :)

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Beirdo:

then restart the backend, then fill

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Beirdo:

whatever works

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psm321:

my guide is still off by an hour... no change

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CoolerQ:

Beirdo, it's still got the wrong times, even after running mythfilldatabase again

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CoolerQ:

sarahemm{SA}, hey, what's up?

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Beirdo:

meh

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Beirdo:

works fine here

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Beirdo:

go put in a bug report

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psm321:

Beirdo: whats ur timezone?

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Beirdo:

EST5EDT

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CoolerQ:

how do you check your timezone?

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sarahemm{SA}:

CoolerQ: not much :) started hanging out here too awhile back... more action here than in #linpeople lately :)

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Beirdo:

date

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CoolerQ:

date reports just EDT for me

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Beirdo:

OK

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Beirdo:

so your timezone is right

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Beirdo:

what version of qt?

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CoolerQ:

Beirdo, it's affecting mythweb in addition to the frontend

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Beirdo:

so?

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tyir:

sarahemm{SA}: If I just had the -350, with no videocard with TV-out, would the TV-out of the -350 be able to show things other than the saved video files? (i.e. the mythtv interface)

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Beirdo:

mythweb gets its data from the backend

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EruditeHermit:

hi, I used to have working sound, but after an upgrade, mythtv tells me that /dev/dsp is in use so it starts without sound. If I try to use ALSA instead of OSS, I get a really low pitched voice (probably a sampling rate problem). Can anyone help?

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CoolerQ:

the backend uses Qt?

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Beirdo:

yes

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CoolerQ:

ah, okay

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Beirdo:

sigh

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** CoolerQ looks for the right incantation to find the version **

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psm321:

its a qt 3.3.4 problem

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Beirdo:

it *might* be

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psm321:

k

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psm321:

that seemed to be the conclusion on the mailing list

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CoolerQ:

x11-libs/qt

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CoolerQ:

Latest version available: 3.3.4-r3

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CoolerQ:

Latest version installed: 3.3.4-r3

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Beirdo:

has anyone bothered to bug report it?

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LghtSword:

I've spent the last 2 hours googling and reading forums on how to fix this and every suggestion that worked for someone else, failed for me

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LghtSword:

all I want to do is fix a time offset problem in the guide caused by daylight savings time

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LghtSword:

it sounds so trival

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LghtSword:

*trivial

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Beirdo:

use an older version of qt

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, I think you're in the same boat as me and psm321 :)

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LghtSword:

i'm using datadirect

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poonj:

hey Beirdo: if I don't have qt, would mythbackend fail to work?

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LghtSword:

I've tried everything short of trashing the entire db and losing my recordings

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LghtSword:

its off by 1 hour

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Beirdo:

if you don't have qt, you can't run ANY of myth

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, we know

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poonj:

ummm...well it ran..

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LghtSword:

well does anyone know why???

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poonj:

so I must have QT then

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Beirdo:

LghtSword: get an older version of qt

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LghtSword:

what does qt have to do with time?

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CoolerQ:

I'm searching for a bug

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psm321:

lightsword: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-April/082649.html

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CoolerQ:

it seems it hasn't been reported

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gate_:

anyone know where I can find some info on getting my audigy2 to work with a bttv based card. I am having a heck of a time with audio. I can make a SB Live 5.1 work with I mute the line in and master

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LghtSword:

I can't downgrade my qt, I'm using the one that came with my distro from an rpm

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psm321:

i'm trying the workaround that changes datadirect.cpp

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CoolerQ:

psm321, link?

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psm321:

i'll let you guys know if it works for mee

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Beirdo:

well then, unless it gets properly bug reported, I wouldn't expect it to get fixed

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CoolerQ:

I'm writing up a bug report right now

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psm321:

CoolerQ: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-April/082703.html

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LghtSword:

so this is a bug in mythtv?

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Cromz:

Beirdo: you should make a tztools next ;) lol j/k :)

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LghtSword:

or qt as I'm reading

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Beirdo:

I think it's a bug in qt (according to some) that myth had a workaround for

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Beirdo:

when it got fixed in qt, the workaround breaks things

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CoolerQ:

psm321, that's a hack that's going to break in 6 months :)

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Beirdo:

or something

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LghtSword:

my qt is qt3–3.3.4–3

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psm321:

CoolerQ: yes i know

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psm321:

CoolerQ: but it'll work for now

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LghtSword:

I can code, I'd rather recompile mythtv every 6 months than have a nonworking system now

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psm321:

CoolerQ: and i'll be on a newer mythtv by then anyhow

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CoolerQ:

Beirdo, does this classify as a blocker?

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LghtSword:

would you have to refill the db for that hack to take effect?

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slePP:

man.. mythtv was working good for like 2 days

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slePP:

then mysql hung

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Beirdo:

how would I know ;)

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** slePP _hates_ mysql **

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Beirdo:

slePP: it's all your fault, no doubt

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slePP:

nah

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slePP:

it was just sitting there

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CoolerQ:

Beirdo, does blocker mean "doesn't run" or "doesn't do what it's supposed to do"? :P

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slePP:

and then nothing worked, even from local mysql clients.

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slePP:

blocker means 'without this, we can't go forward' :>

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slePP:

(to me)

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CoolerQ:

without working guide data, can we go forward? :P

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psm321:

ok, that hack fixed things for me

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Beirdo:

guide data works fine for many of us

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Beirdo:

make sure you specify all the pertinent versions

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LghtSword:

ok I put the hack in there and I'm recompiling libmythtv

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GreyFoxx:

I'd love to know why I'm not seeing this problem on any of the myth installs I've checked that use the "bad" qt version

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LghtSword:

so you have to downgrade QT to officially fix it huh?

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GreyFoxx:

Me? I've done nothing to fix it. Since it hasn't affected me at all

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GreyFoxx:

and I've checked several other myth installs I've done for people and none seem to be showing this

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Beirdo:

which is why I say be sure to include all version info

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CoolerQ:

GreyFoxx, what timezone are they set to?

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psm321:

GreyFoxx: and they all use qt 3.3.4 and a DST timezone?

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CoolerQ:

GreyFoxx, ls -lhad /etc/localtime

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Beirdo:

including qt version, distro, etc

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GreyFoxx:

CoolerQ: Canada/Atlantic. AST4ADT

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GreyFoxx:

psm321: half of them are using 3.3.4 in the AST (now ADT with the time change) timezone

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CoolerQ:

maybe it's a bug with EST only

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CoolerQ:

and not AST

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LghtSword:

yea I'm using EDT

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LghtSword:

and I got the problem

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tyir:

Hey, quick question about the TV-out of the Hauppauge PVR-350, could it be used for both the MPEG playback AND for displaying X/Mythtv interface onto the TV? Or would I need a separate Tv-out card?

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sarahemm{SA}:

tyir: myth yes, X no, iirc.

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GreyFoxx:

tyir: It will do X+Myth as well

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sarahemm{SA}:

it'll do plain X?

[04:15:00]

GreyFoxx:

Yes

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sarahemm{SA}:

cool :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

alrightie, that's nifty then.

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tyir:

thanks, so it should work with just 1 PVR-350 card then?

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LghtSword:

so is this a bug that is only in 3.3.4 or was it that they just FIXED a bug that was working in mythtv's favor?

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tyir:

for 1 video stream at a time

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, they just fixed a bug that mythtv was expecting to be there

[04:16:00]

LghtSword:

ah

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LghtSword:

man libmythtv takes awhile to compile...

[04:17:00]

LghtSword:

at least I'll be able to fix this in time to record robot chicken :-)

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psm321:

sarahemm{SA}: i wouldnt recommend it if you'll have other input cards too... when i tried 3 months ago it was really slow playing non-MPEG video

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CoolerQ:

Beirdo, http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268

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tyir:

psm321: you're talking about using the 350? WHat do you mean, other input cards?

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sarahemm{SA}:

psm321: ahh. our backend is just a backend anyway.. we'll get a 500 eventually.

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GreyFoxx:

tyir: He means if you are using bttv card as well as the input on the 350

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tyir:

bttv is the driver support for another type of video-grabber? Other than the PVR-x50s, I mean

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CoolerQ:

psm321, add yourself as a CC to http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268

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LghtSword:

that hack from the mailing list (time+3600) didn't work for me

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candc540:

hey if dmorgan comes back i'm here so let hime know if any of you see him

[04:25:00]

LghtSword:

do I have to refill the database for it to work?

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candc540:

k

[04:25:00]

candc540:

just do this

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candc540:

lghtsword: type mysql -u root mythconverg

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LghtSword:

what's the password

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LghtSword:

the default one for mythtv

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GreyFoxx:

mythtv

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LghtSword:

dammit it didn't let me on

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LghtSword:

hold on maybe I changed it

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GreyFoxx:

mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg

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candc540:

then i think it's uh

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LghtSword:

yea that worked

[04:27:00]

candc540:

then there's a delete command

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candc540:

can't remember exactly\

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LghtSword:

lol..

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GreyFoxx:

what are you trying to delete ?

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candc540:

uh delete program;

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candc540:

program from myth database

[04:28:00]

GreyFoxx:

delete from program;

[04:28:00]

LghtSword:

I can do this in mysqlcc

[04:28:00]

candc540:

yeah

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candc540:

thats it

[04:28:00]

LghtSword:

just delete the program table?

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candc540:

yeah t

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candc540:

then mythfilldatabase

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CoolerQ:

DELETE FROM program;

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candc540:

you're fixed

[04:28:00]

LghtSword:

ok

[04:28:00]

candc540:

no time change probs

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LghtSword:

running filldb now

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LghtSword:

I sure hope this works

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LghtSword:

crap the backend wasn't running when I started the mythfilldb

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LghtSword:

I started it about 10 seconds into it, will that mess things up?

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candc540:

just start it

[04:30:00]

candc540:

shouldn't

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LghtSword:

ok

[04:30:00]

candc540:

it should try to connect a couple times

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candc540:

i think

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LghtSword:

yea I think its ok

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LghtSword:

gonna go to the bank while this is goin bbl

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candc540:

ok

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candc540:

should work

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candc540:

and be fixed when you get back

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CoolerQ:

if the backend wasn't running when you started filldb, then run filldb again after you start the backend

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psm321:

CoolerQ: what do you mean about the CC?

[04:31:00]

CoolerQ:

add your e-mail in the CC field

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CoolerQ:

so that any comments left on the bug are e-mailed to you

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CoolerQ:

so you can track the progress of the fix

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poonj:

anyone here use a pcHDTV 3000?

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CoolerQ:

poonj, I am

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poonj:

hey coolerQ: do you have it setup using the 2.0 drivers?

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poonj:

using dvb as well?

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CoolerQ:

nope

[04:34:00]

CoolerQ:

I'm using the old ones

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CoolerQ:

the new ones don't have QAM support :)

[04:34:00]

poonj:

1.6?

[04:34:00]

CoolerQ:

I think it's 1.6

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poonj:

I'm trying to use the 2.0 drivers, and I ahve no idea what needs to be done other than compile and install the drivers

[04:35:00]

poonj:

the documentation doesnt' even seem to exist..

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poonj:

anyhow, I guess thats what I'll do next time becasue the DVB thing is killing me...as well as the V4L2

[04:35:00]

poonj:

they have 2 sets of modules built into one set

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poonj:

iand I don't even know what is needed and whats not needed...but anyhow..I guess thats the wise thing to do

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CoolerQ:

QAM support is fun on 1.6 :)

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poonj:

well, I'm not using QAM

[04:36:00]

poonj:

just OTA

[04:36:00]

poonj:

CoolerQ: does QAM support exist in their default code?

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CoolerQ:

nope

[04:38:00]

poonj:

how did you get it to work?

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candc540:

anyone know of an app for x that will let me use my remote to start apps?

[04:38:00]

candc540:

like red button start mythtv blue button start xmms

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candc540:

etc

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CoolerQ:

poonj, there's a post in the forum with microcode you need to upload to the card

[04:39:00]

poonj:

I see..

[04:39:00]

poonj:

so you basically have to flash the card?

[04:39:00]

CoolerQ:

basically

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CoolerQ:

the card is designed for it

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CoolerQ:

from what I understand, every time you modprobe the driver, it loads microcode into the card... you just have to tell it to load different ucode than the default

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LghtSword:

it works!

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poonj:

I see

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LghtSword:

thanks a bunch guys

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poonj:

but I'm not going for QAM

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poonj:

what are the advantages of using DVB?

[04:41:00]

poonj:

compared to v4l?

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candc540:

NP

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candc540:

that will be $20 US

[04:41:00]

candc540:

i take paypal

[04:41:00]

candc540:

j/k

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candc540:

:P

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LghtSword:

haha

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candc540:

just promise you'll enjoy mythtv

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candc540:

and be sure to spread the wisdom

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LghtSword:

I already do

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LghtSword:

today was the first real problem I've had with it

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LghtSword:

apart from a few dvd burning issues

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GreyFoxx:

blah, I'm bored

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LghtSword:

ok I'm out

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LghtSword:

cya & thanks again

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Beirdo:

GreyFoxx work on some code :)

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GreyFoxx:

Maybe

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GreyFoxx:

I could use this time to resetup my dev box, or I could read, or I could sleep.... hrm

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psm321:

CoolerQ: it wants me to create a bugzilla account... i think i'll just check back once in a while

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charli3:

can i work mythtv with my silver dish network uhf remote?

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CoolerQ:

okie dokie

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gr8nash-home:

any knoppmyth users in here?

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gr8nash-home:

rather.. and hd3000 knoppmyth users in here?

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candc540:

i can't get my damn remote to work with xmms

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candc540:

why?

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candc540:

it works with myth

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candc540:

is there a lirc room somewhere?

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GreyFoxx:

try asking in #xmms

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GreyFoxx:

mode #lirc

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candc540:

ahh good idea

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GreyFoxx:

there is a #lirc

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Reepicheep:

Is there a know problem with daylight savings time not working correctly?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

Affects some, but not others

[04:53:00]

Reepicheep:

that's what I figured..

[04:53:00]

GreyFoxx:

lots of hacks n work arounds but nothing official to clear it up

[04:53:00]

Reepicheep:

it affects me :(

[04:54:00]

Reepicheep:

is it a myth issue or a qt issue?

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GreyFoxx:

Kinda both IF the current thinking is correct

[04:54:00]

GreyFoxx:

QT fixed a bug that myth was working around

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GreyFoxx:

All of the people complaining have been running QT 3.3.4

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Reepicheep:

give me one sec i will see what i am running

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LghtSword:

yea I think that little delete from program stunt messed up my database :-(

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LghtSword:

twice now after browsing through the guide while watching tv, the entire kernel froze up completely

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Reepicheep:

yeap i got qt 3.3.4

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LghtSword:

no mouse, no nothing

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LghtSword:

I had to use alt+printscr+r

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LghtSword:

or whatever key it is to reboot

[04:57:00]

LghtSword:

maybe this is a sign I should just take out my tv card and step on it

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StringBlade:

bah, Beirdo: I lied, I have qt 3.3.4 and apparently my guide is off by an hour as well :(

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LghtSword:

I'm refilling the db again but I doubt this will work

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LghtSword:

and I re-emptied the table "program"

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, you patched your datadirect.cpp?

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LghtSword:

I don't understand how mythtv can all of a sudden be causing kernel lockups

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StringBlade:

Greyfoxx: the DELETE FROM program; affects 0 rows. That doesn't seem right.

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LghtSword:

CoolerQ, yes

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LghtSword:

I just emptied it in mysql

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, and the new version is installed?

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LghtSword:

LghtSword, 0.17

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GreyFoxx:

StringBlade: That looks about right to me

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CoolerQ:

here's what I did that worked:

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GreyFoxx:

ignore the affects 0 rows :)

[04:59:00]

CoolerQ:

mythbackend stop

[04:59:00]

CoolerQ:

mythfilldatabase

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CoolerQ:

mythbackend start

[04:59:00]

CoolerQ:

mythfilldatabase

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LghtSword:

I thought it had to be running???

[04:59:00]

LghtSword:

ahhh

[04:59:00]

CoolerQ:

I think it's best to run it once with it stopped and once with it started

[04:59:00]

LghtSword:

has anyone else ever seen mythtv's guide cause the whole system to freeze?

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GreyFoxx:

no

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LghtSword:

I also noticed right before that, the guide was getting slow to update

[05:00:00]

LghtSword:

like when I was using the arrow keys it seemed sluggish

[05:00:00]

LghtSword:

I'm seriously about to just stop using this system altogether

[05:00:00]

candc540:

ugh #xmms people are A$$ HOLES

[05:00:00]

StringBlade:

Greyfoxx: I must be missing something else because the mythfilldatabase still says 5:00 (UTC) instead of 4:00 (or doesn't that display change?)

[05:00:00]

candc540:

no help

[05:00:00]

CoolerQ:

my guide always seems sluggish, but I've never had it freeze

[05:00:00]

LghtSword:

ever since I put this damn tv card in here, I've had nothing but problems in linux

[05:00:00]

CoolerQ:

StringBlade, mythfilldatabase doesn't display changes

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LghtSword:

and there's nothing in the logs

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StringBlade:

candc540: do you have a .lircrc in your home directory?

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candc540:

yep

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candc540:

i just did something simple

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LghtSword:

it froze twice in a row too

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candc540:

do i need a remote = in the .lircrc

[05:01:00]

StringBlade:

did you use 'xine --keymap=lirc > xine.lircrc' and edit/copy that?

[05:01:00]

LghtSword:

booted right back in after the first time and tried doing the same thing and it froze up the whole system

[05:01:00]

StringBlade:

candc540: yes

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candc540:

oh btw it's xmms not xine

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candc540:

can i do a xmms --keymap=lirc > xmms.lircrc?

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LghtSword:

after the mythfilldatabase, I'm gonna try it a third time

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LghtSword:

at this point I'm so pissed off I almost don't even care anymore

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StringBlade:

candc540: yes I *am* a blind idiot

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StringBlade:

I thought xmms needed a plugin to work with lirc

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LghtSword:

what is even crazier is, this didn't happen until I rebuilt the libmythtv with the hack in it

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candc540:

lol ok getting libmikmod.so.2 cannot open shared object file no such file or dir

[05:04:00]

LghtSword:

mythtv never froze not even once

[05:04:00]

candc540:

yeah it does

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, are you sure that's the only change you made?

[05:04:00]

LghtSword:

yes

[05:04:00]

LghtSword:

positive

[05:04:00]

StringBlade:

candc540: unfortunately I don't think xmms is as simple as xine

[05:04:00]

candc540:

yeah me either

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, there's no way that changing the datadirect code could affect the whole system

[05:04:00]

candc540:

they have a xmms-lirc

[05:04:00]

LghtSword:

is there some rule against only rebuilding libmythtv.so?

[05:04:00]

LghtSword:

yea

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candc540:

and installs a irman control

[05:04:00]

candc540:

libir.so

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LghtSword:

maybe my saa7134 driver is just a piece of shit

[05:04:00]

CoolerQ:

LghtSword, did you do it from an already-compiled tree?

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CoolerQ:

LghtSword, or did you just compile libmythtv and nothing else?

[05:05:00]

candc540:

and that has a cool setup program but doesn't get signals from remote

[05:05:00]

LghtSword:

my system has locked up before, but not since I reverted to the default suse kernel

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sarahemm{SA}:

LghtSword: heh, i'm fighting with the saa7134 driver right now.

[05:05:00]

LghtSword:

LghtSword, only libmythtv

[05:05:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

i just get a black screen, no video... hrm.

[05:05:00]

LghtSword:

the rest was cleaned out

[05:05:00]

candc540:

at first it's setup for /dev/ttyS1

[05:05:00]

LghtSword:

but its the same configuration that I built the rest of mythtv under

[05:05:00]

candc540:

so i change to /dev/lirc

[05:05:00]

candc540:

and still doesn't pick up codes

[05:05:00]

candc540:

ugh

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LghtSword:

man..every time I run mythfilldatabase, it seems to take longer and longer

[05:06:00]

LghtSword:

probably cause I'm getting more and more impatient

[05:06:00]

StringBlade:

candc540: are you using an irman or some other UIR device?

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LghtSword:

ok going in, 10 bucks says I freeze again

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candc540:

ahhh nevermind don't think it works with irman

[05:06:00]

candc540:

i think irman is only serial

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candc540:

i'm using the hauppauge connected to the pvr-150 that works with myth

[05:07:00]

LghtSword:

man I almost thought it froze again

[05:07:00]

LghtSword:

but it was just a bad channel

[05:07:00]

LghtSword:

so it went slow

[05:07:00]

LghtSword:

ok let me try it with pageup & pgdown again, and then alt+tab, this is what did it last time

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LghtSword:

it doesn't seem as sluggish now

[05:08:00]

LghtSword:

and alt+tab is doing fine, I got it running right now

[05:08:00]

candc540:

StringBlade how do i find out what my remote name is?

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LghtSword:

maybe I broke the db when I ran mythfilldatabase while the backend wasn't started, and then I started the backend in the middle

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LghtSword:

ok I'm gonna just quit out of mythtv and pretend like this never happened

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LghtSword:

and pray it never does again

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StringBlade:

candc540: it's in your /etc/lircd.conf file

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LghtSword:

I still find it hard to believe that a mysql problem could cause saa7134 to freeze the system

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LghtSword:

I swear tv cards make linux more unstable like windows than any other piece of hardware

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LghtSword:

if I had the money, I'd buy a small cube pc and put the card in that and keep it all separate from my main linux box

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sarahemm{SA}:

that's what we do. backend is just the myth backend, nothing else on there.

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candc540:

ahhh

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sarahemm{SA}:

now i'm trying to get this other tuner working, and having about as much fun as with the first :P

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candc540:

ok i'll have it working in a sec then i think

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sarahemm{SA}:

what card LghtSword

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LghtSword:

sabrent tvfm

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LghtSword:

I should have got hauppage since I've only ever heard good things about it

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sarahemm{SA}:

okay..

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sarahemm{SA}:

i'm using an Asus TV FM 7135 here....

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GreyFoxx:

LghtSword: I've never had a problem with a single machine and any of the many PVR250's or several BTTV cards I've used over the years. So think your issue might be your specific card, specific driver or some sort of weird io/irq conflict

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sarahemm{SA}:

having a lot of issues trying to get it working with saa7134 :P

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LghtSword:

I just think the card is unstable

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LghtSword:

its frozen my kernel numerous times

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Beirdo:

hahaha

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Beirdo:

say "chicken my rooster" in French

[05:13:00]

Beirdo:

"poule ma coq"

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Beirdo:

heh

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LghtSword:

I haven't messed with it enough in windows to determine whether or not its the hardware or the saa7134 linux driver causing the problem though

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LghtSword:

let me check the guide one last time, hoping it doesn't freeze

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LghtSword:

yea I just paged through the whole lineup a few times with no problem

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candc540:

StringBlade

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GreyFoxx:

bah, I need a floppy disk. I should buy a pack of these things. The only ones I have are so old they are all failing

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LghtSword:

what would make sense to me is that maybe one channel got corrupted the first time around and that cause mythtv to crash but the driver itself couldn't handle it

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Beirdo:

GreyFoxx: they are so cheap too :)

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Beirdo:

heh

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LghtSword:

ok well I'm leaving, hopefully I won't be back

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GreyFoxx:

I want to make a new bootdisk for my netbooting devbox and all the floppies Ihave appear to be toast :)

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LghtSword:

cya

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GreyFoxx:

I'll have to grab some tomorrow

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Cromz:

floppies? no cd bootable? :>

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GreyFoxx:

nope no cdrom or dvdrom in that machine :)

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Cromz:

usb? lol us dsl linux..

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Cromz:

lol

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Cromz:

hmm I should see if I can add mythfrontend to dsl linux. and put that on my pen drive..

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GreyFoxx:

why would I boot off usb when a simple etherboot floppy is perfectly fine. Besides I'm using the usb ports and am not buying a hub just for that :)

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Cromz:

dunno. just teasing ya cause floppies are so.. like 90's ahahaha j/k

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Cromz:

so what all is needed for a frontend machine? just the mythfrontend app?

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sarahemm{SA}:

mythfrontend app and dependencies, yep.

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GreyFoxx:

umm X, QT, myth, and if you want myth video mplayer or xine

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sarahemm{SA}:

like qt and mysql client stuff

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Cromz:

I'll have to look into it.. cause dsl is knoppix but trimmed down to around 50meg.

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GreyFoxx:

maybe one of these days I'll setup something to boot a frontend off a cf card for the hell of it

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Cromz:

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ heh a good start :> just needs qt and xine and myth.. but it's only 50meg

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm, ttv doesn't work either.. that rules out any X issues...

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fridge:

I recently did a dist-upgrade, since then mythtv doesn't work correctly, I can't watch live tv and it won't record, in the logs it keeps saying things like "VB#0 WARNING – Transport Stream Continuity Error. PID = 162"

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fridge:

these never appeared before

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fridge:

:(

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GreyFoxx:

Cromz: Hehe half of the crap in the applications list is stuff I wouldn't need so could be trimmed from the 50meg as well :)

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Cromz:

:) I use it at work, cause it'll load a X from a winblows command window. with qemu. I wouldn't mind trying this out just to see.. for like my wife to run a mythfrontend ontop of winblows.. cause she ain't changing over anytime soon

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GreyFoxx:

wonder if I can trick my laptop to boot from my mp3 player

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Cromz:

lol

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Cromz:

should be able to

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Cromz:

if your mp3 player act like a usb pen drive

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GreyFoxx:

it does

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Cromz:

http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details. . . . N-EFD512U20K I got the 256meg version of this one..

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GreyFoxx:

hrm, I found my mp3 player the other day... now I don't remember where I put it :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

d'oh. forgot that this outlet wasn't actually patched through to the cable coming in :P

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sarahemm{SA}:

still didn't help tho....

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hadees:

anyone ever heard of tvdata.com

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hadees:

its like the grand daddy of zap2it and where the guide data comes from i guess

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hadees:

but where else can you buy guide data from, because zap2it gets alot of stuff wrong...

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candc540:

here's a PVR-150 grayHauppauge remote .lircrc file for xmms for all of you red is repeat and blue is shuffle http://www.pastebin.com/266795

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cold_boot:

hello

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sarahemm{SA}:

hi cold_boot

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cold_boot:

i'm having a weird problem mythbackend keeps rebooting my system

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sarahemm{SA}:

well, it's probably a kernel driver, as mythbackend is a user application, and can't do that

[06:04:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

what cards are you using?

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cold_boot:

ati tv wonder ve

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cold_boot:

bttv driver of course

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sarahemm{SA}:

ok.. does it just randomly reboot sometimes, or is it whenever you try to record, or what?

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cold_boot:

when i try to record or watch tv

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cold_boot:

i get a few minutes of vidoe before it reboots

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm.. do other tv applications like tvtime or xawtv do that?

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candc540:

later everyone

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cold_boot:

no

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sarahemm{SA}:

cold_boot: okay, you've tested that? what kernel version? (or non-kernel driver?)

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cold_boot:

2.6.11.6

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm. the usual 'upgrade your kernel' doesn't apply then :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

any patches?

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Cromz:

doh.. was gonna ask candc540 why there was a php header and footer in that. :>

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cold_boot:

no

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm. that's hard then =-/

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cold_boot:

yeah its got me stumped

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cold_boot:

does mythtv still act funny with certain gcc's?

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harryo:

I saw on the ml that guide time problems are a big issue. The answer appears to be to downgrade qt. My question is: if qt 3.3.4 is correct then is Myth working around a problem in 3.3.3?

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akira_work:

I have a very basic setup question, I have adelphia digital cable, and was wondering about the wiring, do I plug the Cat V cable from my wall, directly into my WinTV PVR 150, or does it goto my cable box?

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harryo:

akira_work: you have to either do composite/svideo out to the pvr250 or firewire out to a firewire card

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harryo:

akira_work: excuse me: pvr-150

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akira_work:

your going to have to excuse my ignorance. by composite, do you mean Cat V?

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rpete:

the cable line goes to your box, your box video out goes to the pvr

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harryo:

akira_work: cat 5 is networking. composite is rca connector, svideo is din connector

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akira_work:

right now, the cable from my wall is going directly into my box, i then have s-vid out (from my graphics card) going into my tv, is this the wrong setup?

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rpete:

except that you don't have the box output going into the pvr150 input

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harryo:

akira_work: for digital cable you need RG-6 to cable box, svideo from cable box to pvr-150, svideo from graphics card to TV

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harryo:

akira_work: btw: you also need sound from cable box to pvr-150 and sound from PC sound card to TV

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poonj:

are PVR-150s supported?

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sarahemm{SA}:

mostly :)

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poonj:

cool

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poonj:

maybe I'll buy one of those..

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sarahemm{SA}:

the -150 seems to be more stable than the -500, from what i've heard.

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sarahemm{SA}:

i own neither yet, however.

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akira_work:

alright, so wall wire ----> cable box ----> pvr

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harryo:

akira_work: to TV (make sure you use the correct cables for each connection)

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harryo:

sarahemm: the -500 should be the same as 2 separate -150's. Both have the same problem: no scaling

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm... okay.. so it literally just shows up as two -150s?

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harryo:

sarahemm: check the ivtv mailing list. logs posted show 2 -150s being recognized

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akira_work:

when click on the "watch tv" the screen goes black for a couple of seconds, and dumps me back into the menu

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harryo:

akira_work: what does the log say?

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sarahemm{SA}:

harryo: cool :)

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harryo:

sarahemm: just don't try to do other than 720x480 (either capture or the inset on the program guide)

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sarahemm{SA}:

harryo: cool :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

i'll have to pick up a -500 soonish and start hacking on the cc code then :)

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harryo:

sarahemm: from what I can tell cc is totally different for -150/-500 than -250/-350

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sarahemm{SA}:

and broken on all :P

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harryo:

sarahemm: opinions vary. cc may work on -250/-350. I think other vbi data may have problems (or maybe that's vice-versa)

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm... from what i've heard it doesn't reliably work on the 250–350..

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sarahemm{SA}:

at any rate, we'd like a -500 here to get two tuners (only one PCI slot), so i'll probably pick one up and see what i can get cc-wise from it :)

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harryo:

sarahemm: I think Hans has made some adjustments. driver changes often.

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sarahemm{SA}:

*nods* ok..

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sarahemm{SA}:

Hans is ivtv?

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sarahemm{SA}:

<-- currently in bttv land because of lack of working caption support on the PVR-xxx cards has scared me off heh

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harryo:

sarahemm: check the ivtv archives. he has done the vbi work for ivtv

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sarahemm{SA}:

ok :) cool.

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harryo:

Has anyone downgraded qt in order to get guide data to appear correctly?

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** sarahemm{SA} is running an old Qt and had no issues **

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harryo:

what version? (I assume >= 3.1.0 as recommended)

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sarahemm{SA}:

3.1.2 iirc

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sarahemm{SA}:

that was the latest when i installed, haven't touched it since

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harryo:

have you followed the discussion on the mailing list about 3.3.4 and DST problems?

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sarahemm{SA}:

no, but i've been here and have seen eight million people ask about it :)

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harryo:

so the question is: if this is something that 3.3.4 has fixed and Myth doesn't work with the fixed code then is Myth wrong or is the "fix" not really a fix and Myth is right?

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm. tuner is detected as the same one that's physically on the board, but the frequencies are all off.. using a custom frequency table i get signal, but the channels aren't at the right frequencies...

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sarahemm{SA}:

weird.

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harryo:

sarahemm: using the correct frequency table (us-cable, cable-hrc,..)?

[07:05:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

us-cable, yep.

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sarahemm{SA}:

we're standard here, not hrc or irc

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harryo:

sarahemm: Myth has wrong freqs, xawtv or both?

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sarahemm{SA}:

everything.

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sarahemm{SA}:

using tvtime with a custom freq table i can force it to work...

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sarahemm{SA}:

it's gotta be assuming a wrong crystal frequency on the board or something like that....

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harryo:

sarahemm: not sure about bttv tuner detection. are you sure the tuner matches the physical tuner on the card?

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sarahemm{SA}:

it's not bttv, it's saa7134

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sarahemm{SA}:

and yes, i checked

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sarahemm{SA}:

bttv is in our live system, our devel box is getting an saa7134 'cuz i couldn't find another bttv

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harryo:

sarahemm: what frequency is it trying to set for, say, channel 2?

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Mrgoose:

on my video out , when im watching a dvd. There's like a rolling faint line at all times any one know how to get rid of that

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sarahemm{SA}:

55.25, with the standard table

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sarahemm{SA}:

which is where it should be....

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sarahemm{SA}:

but there's no signal there according to it.

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sarahemm{SA}:

Mrgoose: purple/pink line?

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Mrgoose:

could be , its sorta colorless and faint

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sarahemm{SA}:

i think that might be macrovision related...

[07:20:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

google for macrovision "burst delay"

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harryo:

sarahemm: tuner and saa7134 both have a tuner option you can set. did you set for both?

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sarahemm{SA}:

it's autodetecting correctly.

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harryo:

sarahemm: well, I'm out of ideas ;-)

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sarahemm{SA}:

okay :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

i'll hack away at it some more...

[07:23:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

or give up and get a pvr-500 ;)

[07:23:00]

poonj:

hey guys

[07:24:00]

poonj:

does the pvr-150MCE work with ivtv?

[07:24:00]

poonj:

or just the pvr-150?

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sarahemm{SA}:

should, yes.

[07:24:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

isn't the only one released the MCE?

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akira_work:

digital cable runs NTSC correct?

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harryo:

poonj: I believe both more. your blackmagic may vary

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sarahemm{SA}:

nope, i'm wrong. :)

[07:25:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

poonj: there are reports that the 150 works fine

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: there are multiple standards.. where are you?

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harryo:

akira_work: NTSC is analog. digital cable is digital data over cable media (mpeg2, I believe)

[07:26:00]

akira_work:

California

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harryo:

poonj: better asked on the ivtv mailing list

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opello:

does anyone know which table holds the commercial skip info? or how i could re-run the commercial skip jobs on all of my recordings?

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sarahemm{SA}:

what provider akira_work?

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poonj:

okay

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poonj:

thanks

[07:28:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

anyone here have a -500 yet?

[07:28:00]

opello:

yup

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poonj:

I have a wintv bttv...how bad is the mono sound?

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sarahemm{SA}:

opello: how's it working?

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opello:

sarahemm{SA}: quite nicely, records 2 shows at a time and everything

[07:30:00]

opello:

no cpu usage

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sarahemm{SA}:

cooool :)

[07:31:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

alright, i think we'll have to pick one up soon. hauppage doesn't release any specs for them do they?

[07:31:00]

opello:

yeah 0.0 across on the `uptime` info for it is pretty slick

[07:31:00]

opello:

dunno — someone had the data sheets on the ivtv mailing list

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sarahemm{SA}:

ahh... cool.

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sarahemm{SA}:

opello: i assume there's no cc support on them yet?

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opello:

not yet

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opello:

at least on 0.3.2o

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sarahemm{SA}:

okie.

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akira_work:

Does DTV need a special card? I've got a PVR-150

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xris:

akira_work: DTV? digital? direct?

[07:37:00]

akira_work:

Yes, I have adelphia digital cable

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sarahemm{SA}:

you can hook your cable box's svideo output up to the -150s SVideo input..

[07:38:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

then you use an ir blaster in front of your cable box to let your MythTV machine change the channels on the cable box

[07:39:00]

xris:

akira_work: then you plug the pvr-150 into the cable box through the composite or svideo port, and get an IR blaster to change channels on the cable box.

[07:39:00]

akira_work:

My capture card does not come with a s-vid port. Just and RCA and a TV Connector port (like an antenna port)

[07:39:00]

xris:

or, if you're lucky enough to have unencrypted digital, you could get in line for an air2pc card and go pure digital. (unlikely that it's unencrypted, except for local channels)

[07:40:00]

xris:

RCA == composite

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xris:

and which pvr-150? my MCE has all ports.

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sarahemm{SA}:

hmm, the -150s don't have svideo?

[07:40:00]

xris:

also, the 150 is fairly unstable...

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akira_work:

some do, my doesn't

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm, which one do you have akira_work?

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xris:

sarahemm{SA}: "which pvr-150" is a better question — there are at least 3 different oens.

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fridge:

http://hovil.customer.netspace.net.au/mythbackend.log

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sarahemm{SA}:

that's what i meant xris :)

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akira_work:

actually, it's not even a 150, my mistake, it's a "WinTV GO-Plus"

[07:42:00]

fridge:

can anyone see any obvious reason why the errors started occuring?

[07:42:00]

fridge:

Myth was running fine

[07:42:00]

fridge:

until a few days ago

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: err, okay, that's very different :) That's just a tv tuner card, need to use software encoding.

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sarahemm{SA}:

xris: regular, MCE, BTV?

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fridge:

and started complaingin about "DVB#0 DVB Buffer overflow error detected on read" and similar

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Beirdo:

bedtime

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xris:

akira_work: are you sure that card even works with linux?

[07:43:00]

xris:

sarahemm{SA}: BTV? I know of retail, MCE and low profile MCE.

[07:43:00]

akira_work:

xris: That could be why nothing works.

[07:43:00]

xris:

and as I understand it, each of those has a couple of different possible chipsets

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sarahemm{SA}:

xris: oh, right. the -250 is available in a -BTV, which is specifically for use with BeyondTV and doesn't work with ivtv

[07:43:00]

xris:

akira_work: likely.

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: what chipset?

[07:44:00]

akira_work:

bt878

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sarahemm{SA}:

okay, that *should* work with bttv

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sarahemm{SA}:

have you tried?

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xris:

akira_work: ahh, that's not even a hardware encoder card. standard software encoder settings.

[07:45:00]

akira_work:

yes, i've got the bttv mod installed

[07:45:00]

akira_work:

errr, inserted

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: okay, does xawtv or tvtime work?

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xris:

akira_work: what distro?

[07:46:00]

akira_work:

gentoo

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akira_work:

sarahemm{SA}: i haven't tried xawtv or tvtime yet

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harryo:

xris: did you have the DST problems with the guide?

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: that's the first thing to try..

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sarahemm{SA}:

i'd install xawtv and try running it.

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sarahemm{SA}:

that's the best test to maek sure you have the tv card working before you start worrying about myth.

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harryo:

akira_work: don't forget to loop the audio from the capture card to your sound card

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akira_work:

sarahemm{SA}: alrigt, i'm emerging it now

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sarahemm{SA}:

yay, gentoo.

[07:47:00]

** sarahemm{SA} begins upgrading frontends to .17 **

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xris:

ok, I'll leave you gentoo nuts to your wacky config (why anyone thought that merging BSD and linux setups was a good idea, I don't know)

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akira_work:

haha. haters

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harryo:

xris: are (or were) you running Qt 3.3.4?

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xris:

harryo: apparently I am

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akira_work:

i must admit, we use debian at work, 5 minute installation/upgrades to software are nice

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harryo:

xris: probs w/ time adjustment?

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xris:

akira_work: just giving you a hard time. the config and path bsd-ness is really my only problem with gentoo.

[07:50:00]

xris:

harryo: no, why?

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xris:

I run my own nfs server, it clicked over automatically when I turned my machine on this morning

[07:51:00]

xris:

though qt should have nothing to do with the system clock

[07:51:00]

harryo:

xris: I was running 3.3.4 and change to DST caused my guide to go off by 1 hour. downgrading to 3.3.3 fixed it

[07:51:00]

xris:

ahh. well, I don't run myth much on this box.

[07:51:00]

harryo:

xris: my system time has been correct since I booted this morning. guide didn't work until downgrade

[07:52:00]

xris:

odd

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** sarahemm{SA} is way back at 3.1.2 and it's fine.. **

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harryo:

xris: question is: if 3.3.4 supposedly has a fix for timezones does that mean that Myth is coded wrong or should this be treated as a Qt bug?

[07:52:00]

xris:

well, my mythbox is likely still using an older qt.

[07:53:00]

xris:

not a clue

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sarahemm{SA}:

or it was a qt bug, myth worked around it, and now qt is fixed :)

[07:54:00]

harryo:

xris: it's times like this that I ask myself: "what did Isaac's system do?" (not: "what would Isaac do" since I am not worthy to know ;-) )

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** xris kicks Dishnetwork for downloading program data at the beginning of the show he tried to record. **

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sarahemm{SA}:

xris: how does that work?

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xris:

pops a big thing up on the screen "downloading program data... will take about 2 minutes"

[07:55:00]

** kormoc|zZzZzZ yawns and sleeps **

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xris:

never had that happen during a show while I'm watching, but it sure seems to happen when I want to record something.

[07:55:00]

harryo:

sarahemm: if Qt bug that was fixed then fixing in Myth would mean forcing all users to 3.3.4 if no Qt work-arounds are supported

[07:56:00]

harryo:

xris: wouldn't that be a problem if you had DishDVR?

[07:56:00]

xris:

I guess I'm just going to have to go back to a 3–4 minute preroll

[07:56:00]

xris:

harryo: probably

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sarahemm{SA}:

harryo: or picking up the Qt version in code, and only using the 'fix' if it's older

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xris:

pisses me off. good eats special that airs once or twice per year, and I set it to record BOTH showings, and both are screwed up.

[07:56:00]

opello:

couldn't the version of qt be detected and optionally activate the workaround?

[07:57:00]

akira_work:

sarahemm{SA}: tvtime works

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harryo:

sarahemm: read the Myth README. I don't think Isaac likes the idea of conditionals for Qt work-arounds

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opello:

heh, guess i had my idea late :)

[07:58:00]

opello:

could be in the configure step

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xris:

anyway, time for me to sleep....

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: cool :) including audio?

[08:00:00]

akira_work:

naw, i actually have to go buy the the wires, i'm using the only wire i have to output from my soundcard to the tv

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sarahemm{SA}:

oh, okay :)

[08:03:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

well, the video part should Just Work with myth as is then :)

[08:03:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

audio is often more of a challenge with bttv.

[08:03:00]

akira_work:

when i "Watch TV" in mythtv, the screen goes blank, when i alt-tab to my console, i see "writeBlock: Invalid socket"

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sarahemm{SA}:

running .17 akira_work?

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akira_work:

.16

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm, me too. *thinks*

[08:10:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

no other messages?

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DIrEctQL:

hi

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DIrEctQL:

i am having problem with schedule being off by an hour due to time change

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DIrEctQL:

how do i fix this

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opello:

downgrade to qt 3.3.3

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akira_work:

sarahemm{SA}: I got it. Now i get to dick around with lirc

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DIrEctQL:

I am using datadirect for schedule pull

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DIrEctQL:

anyone?

[08:12:00]

opello:

02:10 < opello> downgrade to qt 3.3.3

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: what was it?

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akira_work:

sarahemm{SA}: i had to change my card type to: MJPEG

[08:13:00]

akira_work:

quality isn't that great though

[08:14:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

err...

[08:14:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

card type to MJPEG?

[08:14:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

that's odd..

[08:14:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

i didn't think you could do that on software-encoder-ness cards

[08:14:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

only options used to be RT-JPEG or MPEG4 :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

how fast is the box?

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DIrEctQL:

anyone?

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opello:

DIrEctQL: man, i've said it twice to you — downgrade to qt 3.3.3

[08:16:00]

DIrEctQL:

what the hell does qt have to do anything with tv schedule?

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opello:

don't know the particulars, but i'll grab the link

[08:17:00]

opello:

http://www.phpexamples.net/component/option,c . . . 513~0145.htm

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DIrEctQL:

ohhh

[08:18:00]

DIrEctQL:

thanks

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akira_work:

sarahemm{SA}: it's a p4 2.4 w/ 1MB cache

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DIrEctQL:

that explains a bit

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opello:

yeah, i don't know what myth is using in qt for timezone stuff, i figured that'd be standard libs... but oh well :)

[08:26:00]

DIrEctQL:

shoot

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DIrEctQL:

i can't really downgrade

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DIrEctQL:

i aperas some libs are missing

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DIrEctQL:

there is an option to adjust the schedule but it doesn't apear to work

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opello:

the beauty of gentoo let me downgrade quite easily :)

[08:26:00]

DIrEctQL:

yeah

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opello:

yeah, that was on the mailing list too

[08:26:00]

DIrEctQL:

i did too

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DIrEctQL:

but now myth can't find some libs

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opello:

odd

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opello:

i just added >=x11-libs/qt-3.3.4 to package.mask, and emerge -auv qt

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DIrEctQL:

hmm

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DIrEctQL:

what if i set the time zone to utc

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opello:

all of your stuff would record hours late, depending on where you are i'd imagine

[08:32:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

alright, backend upgrading to .17 :) (i love gentoo.)

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DIrEctQL:

guess that option don't work

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sarahemm{SA}:

oops.

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xortch:

after emerging myth weather it doesnt appear on the mythweb site?

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DIrEctQL:

appears forcing time offset doesn't work

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opello:

yeah, i tried that too

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DIrEctQL:

this sucks

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DIrEctQL:

no way out

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DIrEctQL:

:(

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sarahemm{SA}:

mew?

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Dr_Barnowl:

Do you need mtd running to transcode normal TV (and not just DVDs)?

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fridge:

sarahemm{SA}, I can't figure out what has stuffed my myth config, it was working fine until I did a dist-upgrade, now it complains about continuity errors in the DVB stream and thrashes the disks constantly

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sarahemm{SA}:

fridge: meep =-/ i run plain analog cable here so i won't be much help...

[10:40:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

woohoo. two frontends and the backend upgraded to .17 :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

woooohooooooo!!!

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sarahemm{SA}:

'Black background for Closed Captioning' in .17 :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

it's nice that it doesn't interrupt the picture having no background, but it's really hard to read sometimes :P

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sarahemm{SA}:

*cheers*

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fridge:

http://archives.devshed.com/a/ml/200409-74254 . . . g-DVB-errors

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fridge:

don't you hate it when you find other people with the same issues as you

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fridge:

but no solution

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeah =-/

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sarahemm{SA}:

captions look a LOT better, if not completely fixed in .17 :)))

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sarahemm{SA}:

which is odd because it's been broken since before .12 anyway

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Gumby:

any LVM users here? I am trying to activate my LVM but when I try to do so (vgchange -a y) I get the following.....

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Gumby:

Volume group 4474 metadata is inconsistent

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Gumby:

Volume group for uuid not found: lIoGSWjLzjHDN61mdY0yqVbilyBU9xzFSoVzKiy750swPFxT8D0ijXGNAi3FddlG

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fatmatt:

anyone used dvbsnoop?

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Dr_Barnowl:

Don't suppose anyone has a DEC2000-t working with MythTV yet?

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Dr_Barnowl:

Both mplayer and Myth seem to hate it, but you can tzap -r the box and cat the device output to a file just fine.

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fridge:

can you play the resultant file in mplayer?

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Dr_Barnowl:

fridge: Yes, and you can cat my Nova-T and the DEC box at the same time, different channels, with perfect results.

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Dr_Barnowl:

fridge: The DEC is "special" because it can't muster a full transport stream across the USB bus as it's only USB 1.1 ; all the other DVB devices put across the full TS, not just one PS. My hunch is that it's something to do with that.

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AndyCap:

Is PVR-250/350 the best supported tv card for linux or are there other stable options as well?

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AndyCap:

that are available for sale. :-P

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sarahemm{SA}:

they're the best.

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sarahemm{SA}:

the -150 and -500 are newer and not quite as stable, but are good options too it seems.

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sarahemm{SA}:

other stable options mostly require software encoding, like bttv or cx88 cards.

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AndyCap:

well, I'm ok with software encoding as well in this pc, but I've got a cx88 wintv card, and it's not really working great.

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AndyCap:

and as far as I can tell bttv supported cards are getting hard to find?

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeppers, they are.

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** sarahemm{SA} running one now but i've been running myth for a couple years now. **

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AndyCap:

I'd really like a card that doesn't require audio loopback as well so I guess hw encoding is the only option then?

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sarahemm{SA}:

well, some bttv cards don't require audio loopback

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sarahemm{SA}:

i dunno about newer ones.

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AndyCap:

since bttv/cx88 with working audio chips seems rarer than the unicorn. :-P

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laga:

there are a few cards than are supported by btaudio – you wont need a loopback cable then

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sarahemm{SA}:

yep. i use btaudio with my bttv card

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sarahemm{SA}:

ATI TV Wonder (vanilla, no VE, CX, Pro, or anything else)

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AndyCap:

Hehe, now I sound really difficult, but I'm in nicam land as well. :-) so any suggestions for saa7xxxx, bttv, cx88 card with working btaudio?

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sarahemm{SA}:

nicam?

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AndyCap:

sarahemm{SA}: stereo encoding.

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sarahemm{SA}:

i don't know what that is.. sorry :)

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AndyCap:

sarahemm{SA}: some tuners support it and some don't. I'll figure that out if I can find a card.

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AndyCap:

:-)

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sarahemm{SA}:

ahh, ok...

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sarahemm{SA}:

the 'tv wonder' is good here anyway if you can find it.

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sarahemm{SA}:

if you want software encoding anyway.

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sarahemm{SA}:

hardware encoding is better :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

(but may not support closed captioning, if you care)

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AndyCap:

yeah, I guess I should spring for a 250.

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AndyCap:

there is no closed captioning here. They use Videotext (text-tv) for that.

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AndyCap:

but I guess recording the VBI is out of bounds?

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sarahemm{SA}:

right. :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

depends, on the -250/-350 it sort of sometimes works.

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sarahemm{SA}:

but it's not reliable.

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sarahemm{SA}:

the -150 and -500 don't support it at all yet.

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** sarahemm{SA} will eventually get one and start hacking on it, but i've avoided it so far because of that :) **

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sarahemm{SA}:

hence the bttv-ness.

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AndyCap:

Hmm, I have this growing fear that hauppauge will do like most hw manufacturers and suddenly sell PVR-350 and 250 with new chips?

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sarahemm{SA}:

there's already been a few versions.

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sarahemm{SA}:

all are supported of the vanilla -250 and -350 cards

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sarahemm{SA}:

also supported are the 250-MCE and 350-MCE

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sarahemm{SA}:

not supported are the 250-BTV and 350-BTV.

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sarahemm{SA}:

(which are specifically made for use with BeyondTV for some reason)

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AndyCap:

ah, ok.

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sarahemm{SA}:

(note that all this is just from reading docs, mailing lists, FAQs, wikis, and hanging out here way too much, as i don't actually own any of them yet

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sarahemm{SA}:

=^.^=

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AndyCap:

:-) well, thats all I can do for now as well.

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sarahemm{SA}:

*nods*

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AndyCap:

trying to decide. I guess I should build a proper backend and get a couple of PVR-250's and a DVB-s card

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** sarahemm{SA} will get a -500 soon to get dual-tunerness, if she can find any docs on how the VBI interface works. **

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AndyCap:

I guess you want the CC?

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeah. the -250 and -350 used to work, so i'd be confident i could make that work again.. but the -150 and -500 never did, so i'm a bit worried about getting one, finding there's no spec available, and being screwed :P

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** AndyCap is growing paranoid about conexant. **

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sarahemm{SA}:

how so?

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AndyCap:

sarahemm{SA}: they seem to be out to get opensource.. great conspiracy theory forming in my head. winmodems, prism54 wlan softmac, bttv -> cx88, opengraphics card video chip -> no specs.

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AndyCap:

:P

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeah =-/

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sarahemm{SA}:

hauppauge cards don't have open specs either as far as i've seen.. but i need to do more investigation.

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sarahemm{SA}:

someone reported that the -150 and -500 cards use a completely new way of doing VBI too which would suck.

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AndyCap:

well, they haven't broken them deliberately yet either. :-)

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AndyCap:

as far as I know...

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sarahemm{SA}:

heh, so far..

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AndyCap:

DVB seems like a much better idea, but thanks to providers wanting total lock-in it's hard to get access to standard CAM's and smartcards. :-C

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sarahemm{SA}:

yep...

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** sarahemm{SA} on analog cable here. **

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AndyCap:

me too, and they're not getting any of my money until they want to sell me a CAM.

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** sarahemm{SA} nods, yep. **

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AndyCap:

ditto for satellite, and unfortunately DVB-T seems to get railroaded into proprietary crypto for channels that are free to air today.

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeppers.

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AndyCap:

bye bye recording.

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sarahemm{SA}:

s'why we'll stick with analog cable for now :)

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AndyCap:

enter HDMI and bye bye analog recording.

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AndyCap:

:-)

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sarahemm{SA}:

a PVR-500 will get two recording streams out of one PCI slot (we only have one in our backend) :)

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AndyCap:

:)

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AndyCap:

heh, there should be a market for non-interlaced vga monitors that look like tv's, build in a serial remote interface and you're set. :-)

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sarahemm{SA}:

heh :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

i think there should be a market for completely-open-spec multi-tuner hardware encoders

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sarahemm{SA}:

:P

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AndyCap:

mm, that too. I'm optimistic about the opengraphics card though, maybe we'll see more of that later.

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AndyCap:

wonder if the pvr-500 will fit into the pundit-r. It was hard enough to shoehorn the wintv in there.

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sarahemm{SA}:

heh

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** sarahemm{SA} running a regular shuttle-like PC **

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AndyCap:

I'm not the only one with that problem. :-) http://www.geoffholden.com/projects/mythtv/

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AndyCap:

"with a little physical persuasion."

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sarahemm{SA}:

hehe

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AndyCap:

and that's why I should build a proper backend. :)

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** sarahemm{SA} nods **

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sarahemm{SA}:

that's our backend...

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sarahemm{SA}:

the frontends are on each of our laptops (mine and my wife's) and on an xbox in the living room

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AndyCap:

Ah. :-) linux on the xbox?

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeppers.

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AndyCap:

Mm, was wondering if anyone had ported winmyth or something to the xbox, but that's hard to do legally I guess.

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AndyCap:

not that I have an xbox.

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AndyCap:

and running myth on my c64 might be a stretch. :->

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sarahemm{SA}:

heheheee :)

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sarahemm{SA}:

yes, this is true ;)

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sarahemm{SA}:

nope, linux on the xbox works nicely.

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sarahemm{SA}:

and winmyth barely works on PCs....

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AndyCap:

I had a brief affair with windows while testing the cx88 card, I wasn't impressed with the quality of drivers I supposedly paid for.

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AndyCap:

both ati and wintv.

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AndyCap:

but that's all in the past I hope. especially if I spring for a PVR card.

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** sarahemm{SA} nods, yeah... **

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sarahemm{SA}:

the PVR cards seem good overall :)

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AndyCap:

Hmm, in theory I could return the wintv card as well. :-) I should do that. :)

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fridge:

anyone know about loading firmware?

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fridge:

tda1004x: waiting for firmware upload...

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fridge:

tda1004x: firmware upload failed

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fridge:

I thought I had that working at some stage

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fridge:

but can't recall

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fridge:

how the shebang works

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schmots:

Hello

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fatmatt:

anyone know how to translate this into something I can read? DVB signal 4e00 | snr 6200 | ber b4d5d410 | unc b7208fdc

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sarahemm{SA}:

snr is signal to noise ratio, ber is bit error rate, unc is uncorrected blocks

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sarahemm{SA}:

if that helps :)

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fatmatt:

trying to work out what the numbers are... assuming hex or something and I've no idea if signal is a % or something else

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fridge:

signal strength is 30%

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fridge:

roughly

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fridge:

it is hex

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fatmatt:

thats not good is it

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fridge:

it's not fantastic

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sarahemm{SA}:

ber and unc look pretty bad too from that...

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fatmatt:

is there a program that I can run that'll output those numbers continuously while I'm trying to point the antenna in a better direction

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fridge:

tzap/femon

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fatmatt:

oooh femon looks useful

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fatmatt:

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AndyCap:

a laptop with wlan was a good tuning aid for my fathers dish btw. :-)

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fatmatt:

AndyCap: I'm on one now

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fatmatt:

metal roof though, signal has issues getting through that...

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AndyCap:

no more yelling, "back a bit", now it went up again.

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AndyCap:

:-P

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fatmatt:

fridge: the hex calc thing I have is telling me 4e00 is about 20000 how do I get a % out of that?

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fridge:

4e00/FFFF

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fatmatt:

gotcha,

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fatmatt:

thanks, can you tell me how the BER and UNC work? ie whats a good value for them?

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laga:

hey guys, does the pvr-350's decoder also support mpeg-1?

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GreyFoxx:

yup

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laga:

cool, thank you.

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fridge:

BER tells you how corrupted your stream is

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fridge:

high ber = lots of bits are corrupted

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fatmatt:

so a low BER is best, is it a %?

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fridge:

it's a ratio, I guess it could be expressed as a percentage

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fatmatt:

actually, don't worry, I just need to lower it

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fridge:

I get clear decoding with "signal cccc | snr fefe | ber 00001056 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK"

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fridge:

if you want something to compare to as a baseline

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fatmatt:

thanks, most excellent

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laga:

anyone running mdz's packages for debian? do they contain support for DVB?

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fatmatt:

mdz?

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fatmatt:

I'm running debian

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Scorpi:

fatmatt: matt zimmermann?

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laga:

are you using the packages from dijkstra....edu?

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fatmatt:

I've got the djkstra ones yeah

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laga:

cool, and DVB? nice :)

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laga:

thank you very much.

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fatmatt:

deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv

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fatmatt:

yup, they do dvb

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laga:

k

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sarahemm{SA}:

time for sleepies. nini!

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DMJC:

anyone trying to run mythtv on gentoo?

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laga:

some people are even being successfull.

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DMJC:

I'm trying but it's not working

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DMJC:

QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded

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DMJC:

QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QSQLITE

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laga:

install qt-mysql

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DMJC:

there is no package for that in gentoo that I can find in portage

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DMJC:

and I already compiled qt with mysql support

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DMJC:

x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3 +cups -debug +doc -examples -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql

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oc:

DMJC, emerge qt with USE="+mysql"

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oc:

and you've got mysql installed as well?

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DMJC:

yes

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oc:

and started?

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DMJC:

and it still says it can't find the driver

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DMJC:

I started mythtv

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oc:

and mysql?

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oc:

/etc/init.d/mysql start

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DMJC:

yes

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DMJC:

and it comes up with a big blue screen and asks for config options

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DMJC:

and it 2005-04–04 23:38:41.011 Unable to connect to database!

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DMJC:

2005-04–04 23:38:41.012 No error type from QSqlError? Strange...

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DMJC:

couldn't open db

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oc:

try mysql localhost -umythtv -pmythtv

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DMJC:

ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' to database 'localhost'

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oc:

there's more use-flags than that on QT as well

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oc:

yeah red the docs then

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oc:

read

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oc:

mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg

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oc:

is the correct line

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DMJC:

ok that command gets me into a mysql console

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o_cee:

right so it's Qt then.

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o_cee:

the flags you posted for QT is not all of them.

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DMJC:

x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3 +cups -debug +doc -examples -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql +nas -odbc +opengl -postgres +sqlite +xinerama +zlib

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o_cee:

there's a sqllite flag as well, wich i've got disabled at least

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DMJC:

ah k

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o_cee:

dunno if it helps, just comparing to my own

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DMJC:

postgres enabled or not?

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o_cee:

off

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o_cee:

x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r2 -cups -debug -doc -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite -xinerama +zlib

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DMJC:

ok, rebuilding now

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Dibblah:

djmc: You need to unmerge qt, emerge mysql then emerge qt again.

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Dibblah:

Well, that's the easiest, anyway.

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DMJC:

mysql is already installed, why do I need to reinstall it?

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bjohnson:

does transcode REALLY take up to 8 hours to work? it's just a piii 650 here

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GreyFoxx:

bjohnson: Sounds about right :)

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bjohnson:

damn

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bjohnson:

I need to figure out how to cli script this so I can do it on my backend via ssh

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bjohnson:

backend is faster

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DMJC:

hehehe

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DMJC:

local law enforcement here is running an anti-piracy tv campaign

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DMJC:

they are sooo going to fail

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gnome42:

Hi, Is there a mythtv-dev (for development discussion) irc channel around somewhere?

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laga:

#mythtv

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gnome42:

thanks laga

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candc540:

hello everyone

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candc540:

did anyone ever figure out how to get lircmd working?

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candc540:

topping?

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topping:

hey

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topping:

sup?

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candc540:

you ever find out how to get lircmd working?

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topping:

i didn't know i was looking

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candc540:

oh btw made the remote work with xmms yesterday

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topping:

nice

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candc540:

if you wan the conf file i'll send it to you

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topping:

yah that would be great!

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candc540:

since there isn't a shuffle or repeat button on this remote

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candc540:

i used red for repeat and blue for shuffle

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topping:

did you try mplayer at all?

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candc540:

topping: http://www.pastebin.com/266985

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candc540:

nope i can make one for it though

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candc540:

not that hard

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topping:

i have one if you want

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candc540:

ok i'll get it from you later

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candc540:

don't have it installed yet

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candc540:

probably not for a few days

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candc540:

but i want to get lircmd to work

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candc540:

it's supposed to allow you to use the remote as a mouse in x

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topping:

this stuff you sent goes into .lircrc ?

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candc540:

yeah

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topping:

k

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candc540:

just add it to the lircrc

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candc540:

in your /home/user/ dir

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topping:

.lircrc or .mythtv/lircrc ?

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candc540:

.lircrc

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topping:

k

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candc540:

not .mythtv/lircrc

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topping:

right

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candc540:

oh btw you need the lirc plugin for xmms

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topping:

np

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candc540:

and you need to enable it in plugins > General

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candc540:

so if i run lircmd -n

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candc540:

and press buttons, it should give me codes if it's working correctly right?

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topping:

i've never used it

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candc540:

one sec have to restart

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Ivan_Alias``:

i've heard rumors of a great new GUI coming soon for mythtv, is this true or an April fool??

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laga:

it's true.

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laga:

it's scheduled for the 0.19 release from what i'Ve heard.

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laga:

and it's very pretty.

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Ivan_Alias``:

are there any screenshots about?

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topping:

Ivan_Alias``: link?

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visit0r:

how does that differ from the current?

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laga:

there is a demo in CVS. check out mythuitest

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laga:

Ivan_Alias``: screenshots? you need the experience. trust me.

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visit0r:

main differences being?

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laga:

visit0r: opengl. moving icons. transparency fading.

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visit0r:

cool

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topping:

oooh yummy

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visit0r:

eye candy

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topping:

lol how stable so far?

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Ivan_Alias``:

wow, sounds nice :)

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Ivan_Alias``:

i've only been using myth for a weekm and I love it

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FairWtns:

Can anyone tell me why the zap2it grabber is an hour off?

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FairWtns:

Time is right, tyvm ntp.

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zuralin:

daylight savings?

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FairWtns:

Yeah, that's the problem, but since the time is right, how come zap2it is wrong?

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candc540:

can anyone help me figure out why my mythbackend aint starting at boot?

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laga:

topping: dunno.

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FairWtns:

The system time, that is.

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laga:

topping: it's not ready. and i dont how much work has been done.

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laga:

remember, it's not for 0.18, but for 0.19.

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topping:

kewl

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Ivan_Alias``:

@candc540 is it starting too early at boot time?

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candc540:

Ivan_Alias``: dunno

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FairWtns:

I thought mythfill had an offset option, but I don't see it.

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Ivan_Alias``:

that's the problem I had

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guest223:

Hey everyone

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candc540:

Ivan_Alias``, I got a file from someone in here to start the backend and dumped it in my /etc/init.d

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candc540:

and made a sym link to it in /etc/rc5.d

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guest223:

I was wondering if anyone had some documentation on running MythTV on a PC that isn't dedicated to that task?

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Ivan_Alias``:

which flaour of linux are you on?

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candc540:

is there anything else i needed to do to get debian to realize that the file is in there or should it just work?

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candc540:

deb

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Ivan_Alias``:

not sure about deb, but what it he link called in rc5.d?

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Ivan_Alias``:

S99mythbackend ?

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candc540:

i think it was S21mythbackend

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candc540:

that's my problem huh

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candc540:

need it to start after mysql

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Ivan_Alias``:

its just a guess..

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Ivan_Alias``:

but likely

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candc540:

ok brb restarting

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FairWtns:

Ah farg. Wonder how I can fake this until I get back from work

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FairWtns:

I finally get ntp working after 3 months and now zap2it shows me wrong times. Lovely.

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GreyFoxx:

FairWtns: It's not Zap2it. It's currently suspected to be a bug in QT versions lower than 3.3.4 that was fixed in 3.3.4 (that doesn't seem to affect everyone but does affect many) that Myth was working around.

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FairWtns:

Ah

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GreyFoxx:

So supposedly Myth expected the bug, it's no longer there. This is not 100% verified, but is the current thinking

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GreyFoxx:

Personally I've had no problems, nor Beirdo and several others,

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GreyFoxx:

but many have had to deal with it

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FairWtns:

GreyFoxx:Any idea how to fake it until I get back from work? I guess shutdown ntp, set the clock, and hope.

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candc540:

nope no go Ivan_Alias``

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GreyFoxx:

FairWtns: Not really

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GreyFoxx:

I watched so many attempts to fix it last night that I have no idea which worked for people

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GreyFoxx:

I checked my box, and 10 of the 15 or so installs I've done for people and none had the problem so I never really had to deal with it

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guest223:

anyone knowledgable with Nvidia cards here?

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guest223:

the 5200 to be exact...

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zuralin:

just ask your question...

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FairWtns:

GreyFoxx:Interesting. Mythfill does talk about an offset, but it's like 14 or so, which doesn't make sense

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FairWtns:

Actually, now it's offset '1'

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guest223:

Trying to get vga and the composite to work in parallel, but its either or right now it seems

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FairWtns:

Alright, I'll leave ntp off and hope.

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FairWtns:

Glad I didn't deliver the new mythbox to the girl yet.

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Faithful:

anyone got tv_grab working for DVB-T in AU?'

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candc540:

note to self: Debian's default run level is 2 not 5 like FC3 so in order to make the backend run at boot it must have a sym link to the file in /etc/init.d placed in the /etc/rc2.d dir

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candc540:

restarting now

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candc540:

:)

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FairWtns:

Default is 2? That's odd. 3 is usually normal, 5 X.

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Faithful:

candc540: How'd you go with LIRC?

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candc540:

good

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candc540:

just trying to get lircmd working now

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Faithful:

?

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candc540:

but have lirc working with myth and with xmms

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candc540:

lircmd is the lirc mouse daemon

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Faithful:

Ah... Oj

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Faithful:

Ok

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candc540:

sends mouse commands to x

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candc540:

want to get that working

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candc540:

:)

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Faithful:

why?

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candc540:

but have no /dev/lircmd when i should

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candc540:

dunno just so i can use the mouse to open close apps

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Faithful:

Ok...

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candc540:

is there an app or daemon that will allow me to assign buttons to open apps?

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candc540:

someone think about an answer while i restart please :)

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FairWtns:

candc540 should be looking for irexec methinks.

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FairWtns:

candc540: man irexec

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FairWtns:

Gotta run

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Ivan_Alias``:

anyon here using the ati remote with myth?

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DonLKSAB:

Yes

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Ivan_Alias``:

DonLKSAB: Do you have all the buttons working? play ff rw etc?

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DonLKSAB:

When watching TV yes

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DonLKSAB:

I think so :-)

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Ivan_Alias``:

coo, did you need to compile a kernel module to get that working?

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DonLKSAB:

Nope

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Ivan_Alias``:

so how do you map the buttons? or are you just using the cursorkeys?

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DonLKSAB:

Buttons? in the GUI?

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DonLKSAB:

Im using the arrow keys to navigate

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Ivan_Alias``:

ok, yes Ihave that much working too, but I've heard you can get all the buttons working but you need to make changes to ati_remote.c and recompile

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Ivan_Alias``:

this Im having trouble with

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DonLKSAB:

I havent done that

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DonLKSAB:

I like it as it is :-)

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Ivan_Alias``:

yes, its already very good

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fek:

hi

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Malebolge:

'Lo all

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Malebolge:

Question: Has anyone managed to make the HD-3000 work in QAM mode w/ the 1.6 drivers? ATSC works great, now I want to hose my production system ;-)

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zamboni:

every day I come here in the hope that Ill find someone who is using a compro TVMATE PVR/FM card with myth

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zamboni:

but since no one here has sofar said so, and anyone then make a reccomendation on a decent low budget PVR card NTSC tuner capable

[17:49:00]

GreyFoxx:

Well, decent and low budget generally are not used in the same sentence, let alone that how you define them can vary from others :)

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zuralin:

you get what you pay for

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zamboni:

yeah Im afraid of that truth

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zamboni:

Im tempted to go with the 65$CAD compro TVMATE

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zamboni:

the tuner on my zoltrix doesent work at all or is just not sensitive

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zuralin:

persoanlly if your not gonna shell out the money to buy a decent card i wouldnt buy one at all

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zamboni:

used to pich up stations with it...snowwy

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catphish:

morning afternoon or evening all

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catphish:

lol @ xris

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catphish:

anyone know if mythsetup auto tining can be initiated from a command line?

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catphish:

*tuning

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purplefro1:

Has anyone else noticed that the Cartoon Network schedule is off by an hour?

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catphish:

lots of schedules are off by an our atm

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zamboni:

the clock changed over this weekend

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catphish:

including all of mine

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catphish:

lots of ppl can fix it by emptying the program table of the database and rerunning filldatabase

[18:01:00]

purplefro1:

Yeah, I remember that, but is this a bug in mythtv, or zap2it?

[18:01:00]

zamboni:

spring == spring forward 1 hr

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zamboni:

umm

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catphish:

depends

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zamboni:

dunno

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purplefro1:

Dammit, that's why time should always be represented as "seconds since epoch".

[18:01:00]

catphish:

if u havwent refilled the database then its a bug in the user

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zamboni:

lol

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catphish:

if u have then its probably in mythtv

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zamboni:

the zap2it is kinda kool

[18:02:00]

purplefro1:

I didn't realize that user intervention was required. It's not liek it pops up a window and says "I'm too stupid to do this on my own".

[18:02:00]

zamboni:

heh

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catphish:

lol

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catphish:

theres no code to automatically adjust stuff then the time changes

[18:02:00]

catphish:

u have to wipe the listings

[18:02:00]

purplefro1:

Is there a URL that shows me how to empty the tables so mythfilldatabase will fix it?

[18:02:00]

catphish:

and refetch them

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zamboni:

umm maybe I run nto so that takes care of the ysy clock

[18:02:00]

zamboni:

sys

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catphish:

purplefro1: u know how to get a mysql prompt?

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purplefro1:

yup

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catphish:

run 'delete from program;' on the database

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zamboni:

mysql

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catphish:

that'll erase all ur tv listings

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catphish:

then just fetch them again

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purplefro1:

ok, I'm running mythfilldatabase now.

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catphish:

kk

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zamboni:

kk?

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zamboni:

ka ka?

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catphish:

la la?

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zamboni:

ha ha

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** catphish is a funny guy **

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zamboni:

no doubt

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purplefro1:

Hmm, this is odd.

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zamboni:

do tell

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catphish:

lol

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purplefro1:

The new data loaded by mythfilldatabase still has the wrong time for cartoon network shows.

[18:07:00]

CyberKnet:

I just found out about GasBuddy =)

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zamboni:

and I guess yiur systime is right?

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catphish:

u sure its ok for the other channels?

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catphish:

or do u only watch cartoon network ;)

[18:08:00]

purplefro1:

System time is correct.

[18:08:00]

purplefro1:

It's unix.

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** zamboni would also start and stiop the mysql daemon **

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zamboni:

yeah but ...

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purplefro1:

Well, it's 1:10 pm in US/Eastern eh?

[18:09:00]

zamboni:

yep

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catphish:

g2g

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purplefro1:

Balls, it appears Cartoon Network AND nickelodeon are both an hour off.

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zamboni:

hmmm

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purplefro1:

And disney.

[18:12:00]

purplefro1:

Looks like all my shit is busted.

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zamboni:

ah well time to throw it all away and get a tivo

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zamboni:

:)

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purplefro1:

yeah, right.

[18:13:00]

zamboni:

I take donations

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GreyFoxx:

purple : Are you using Qt 3.3.34 ?

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GreyFoxx:

oops

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GreyFoxx:

3.3.4

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purplefro1:

yes I am.

[18:15:00]

GreyFoxx:

You can try reverting to 3.3.3, clearing your program table(be sure to stop mythbackend first), then start mythbackend, then run mythfilldb again

[18:15:00]

GreyFoxx:

SEems to have worked for a lot of people

[18:16:00]

purplefro1:

Hmm, I didn't stop mythbackend just now.

[18:16:00]

xris:

CyberKnet: meadbrewer.com pulls in the highest per-click. sucks that the main forevermore.net ads are just uninteresting. maybe if I start up this cooking-gadget review blog, it'll get some interesting ads.

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GreyFoxx:

If the reports are right, as long as you have 3.3.4 it will still have the problem, but go aheaed and try without change QT first

[18:17:00]

CyberKnet:

xris: Start cross posting between your sites... "And if you liked that article, check out article xyz and zyx.com; below is a preview..."

[18:18:00]

CyberKnet:

s/xyz and zyx/xyz at zyx/

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xris:

yeah. except that they're all on the same IP, so google treats them differently

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CyberKnet:

xris: Cross-pollenating in that manner will add some more diversity to your content and yeild potentially more interesting ads.

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xris:

ahh

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xris:

well, it's there now in my news section, I think. meadbrewer doesn't really have anything other than a placeholder yet.

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CyberKnet:

xris: Might be in a bit of a bind there, I guess.

[18:21:00]

CyberKnet:

xris: At least you have multiple sites from which to generate cross pollenation.

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CyberKnet:

=)

[18:21:00]

xris:

heh

[18:21:00]

xris:

I own so many domains. heh.

[18:21:00]

xris:

actually, not really. my wife owns more.

[18:21:00]

CyberKnet:

I have to put up stories about adwords, and rants about mice

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purplefro1:

Balls, it looks like I'll have to revert QT.

[18:22:00]

nullstring:

using knoppmyth, I try to do the auto install, but it dumps me to a command prompt, with an error, could this be just a corrupt iso that i downloaded?

[18:23:00]

nullstring:

ahh, screw it, gentoo myth, here I come

[18:24:00]

zamboni:

nullstring at what point

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zamboni:

??

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nullstring:

very beginning

[18:24:00]

zamboni:

like the boot process?

[18:24:00]

zamboni:

or as myth loads

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xris:

CyberKnet: occurs to me that it's probably because meadbrewer.com has the lowest traffic, and thus the best ratio.

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nullstring:

err, beginning of the install

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Beirdo:

more to the point.... what error

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Beirdo:

we aren't clairvoyant

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nullstring:

I was kind of talking at myself

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nullstring:

in any case

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nullstring:

I am pretty sure the knoppix route will be too constrictive

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** zamboni owns a crystal ball **

[18:25:00]

nullstring:

I have some odd hardware in my box

[18:25:00]

zamboni:

hmmm

[18:25:00]

CyberKnet:

xris: That is probably true. Actually I noticed once I posted photos of my neice and sent them to my family that their refreshes and page views with no ad clicks made other ad clicks worth less. You may be on to something there.

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nullstring:

I was kind of hoping it would just work, so I wouldn't have to pack a lunch to wait for gentoo

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zamboni:

what does the los say like dmesg or messahes opr syslog

[18:26:00]

zamboni:

messages

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zamboni:

maybe theres a clue

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xris:

CyberKnet: well, they say straight out that the payout relates to the imprint:click ratio

[18:26:00]

nullstring:

speaking of hardware, there doesn't happen to be an info page about the tv wonder pro somewhere?

[18:26:00]

nullstring:

like, should I even bother, if I can't get the damn rf remote working

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zamboni:

*shrug*

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CyberKnet:

xris: I didn't mean to infer a conspiracy or secret...

[18:28:00]

xris:

yeah. I just thought it was more common knowledge.

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CyberKnet:

It probably is =)

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xris:

the formula is "cost of the ad word" * "impression-click-ratio forumula"

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catphish:

back

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nullstring:

err, am I missing something, or are the docs for mythtv install in gentoo's official site missing a lot of steps?

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catphish:

give me a link

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catphish:

and i'll tell u

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CyberKnet:

and the best impression:click ratio you can get with current browsers is 1:!

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CyberKnet:

1:1

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nullstring:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/#doc_chap1

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CyberKnet:

(they seem to reload the js even if you click back)

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nullstring:

or is that already assuming you have done your emerge xorg qt mysql mythtv?

[18:35:00]

catphish:

err yeah like all of it lol

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catphish:

i think its just problem solving

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catphish:

asuming u know what ur doing

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catphish:

its not finished anyway

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nullstring:

that is what I figured

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nullstring:

I was kind of hoping for an install guide similar to gentoo's basic install

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nullstring:

which learned me good on a lot of things

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nullstring:

they normally have outstanding documentation

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gr8nash:

anyone know any VERY good patches to apply to the 2.6.11 kernel for MYthtv?

[18:39:00]

nullstring:

holy 500k download batman

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Mrgoose:

anyone use amd64 with mythtv?

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catphish:

nullstring: mythtv install in gentoo is simple emerge mythtv

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catphish:

anything other than that is highly specific to ur hardware etc

[18:40:00]

nullstring:

they changed the deps?

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purplefro1:

I have an amd64.

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nullstring:

before you had to have qt and some other things emerged beforehand

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mtjs:

if I watch live tv, I have a still frame and then nothing anymore...

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nullstring:

myhsql and all that

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mtjs:

can someone tell me what to do ?

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purplefro1:

can you change channels?

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der_Angler:

hello everybody

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der_Angler:

i've got a problem with the cvs-files

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der_Angler:

totday i donwloaded the cvs-files of mythtv and wanna to compile on my fedora core 2 system

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der_Angler:

but i only got that error:

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der_Angler:

audiooutputdx.h:10:21: windows.h: file or directory not found

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der_Angler:

audiooutputdx.h:12:20: dsound.h: file or directpry not found

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der_Angler:

audiooutputdx.h:44: error: 'HINSTANCE' is used as a type, but is not defined as

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der_Angler:

a type.

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der_Angler:

audiooutputdx.h:45: error: 'LPDIRECTSOUND' is used as a type, but is not

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der_Angler:

defined as a type.

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der_Angler:

audiooutputdx.h:46: error: 'LPDIRECTSOUNDBUFFER' is used as a type, but is not

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der_Angler:

defined as a type.

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xris:

sounds like you need alsa-devel

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der_Angler:

make[2]: *** [audiooutput.o] Fehler 1

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der_Angler:

make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/mythtv-cvs/mythtv/libs/libmyth'

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der_Angler:

make[1]: *** [sub-libmyth] Fehler 2

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der_Angler:

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/mythtv-cvs/mythtv/libs'

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der_Angler:

make: *** [sub-libs] Fehler 2

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xris:

der_Angler: also, next time, use pastebin/ca

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xris:

pastebin.ca

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Riff-Raff:

looks like you are compiling for windows

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der_Angler:

Fehler means error

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CyberKnet:

xris: On a roll today, eh? Perhaps you can explain why my system suddenly accellerates sound/video, then freezes up for up to a minute, lather; rinse; repeat

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catphish:

hey thats a handy site

[18:54:00]

** CyberKnet has a log file from the front end handy **

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xris:

CyberKnet: you should know that I don't really know anything about compiling.

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CyberKnet:

xris: Heh. My problem isn't about compiling though... =)

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Riff-Raff:

did you run ./configure and qmake mythtv.pro?

[18:55:00]

xris:

CyberKnet: it's compiled code, isn't it?

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CyberKnet:

hah

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xris:

therefore, out of my league. :)

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** zamboni thinks all alsa drivers should be built outside of the linux kernel tree **

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der_Angler:

so, on I#ve got "alsa-lib-devel" already installed

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xris:

der_Angler: ./configure ? does it show the appropriate setup?

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zamboni:

what about plain alsa-lib ?

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splat1 is now known as splAt1

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zamboni:

is alsa-libpdevel a superset?

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GreyFoxx:

Mutt: ml-mythtvusers [Msgs:677 New:566 3.1M]

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GreyFoxx:

ARrrrrggggg: Too much mail

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der_Angler:

configure yes

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der_Angler:

alsa-lib also installed

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nullstring:

so much hungry

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nullstring:

mebbe there is some ramen

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Gumby:

mmmmm... ramen

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nullstring:

indeed

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nullstring:

not only ramen, but real imported ramen, from the oriental market

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Gumby:

yum

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Gumby:

has anyone here heard of or experienced the issue with the live tv ringbuff causing the backend too crash when it gets full? Any fix to that yet?

[19:05:00]

Gumby:

It happens on two of my three boxes.

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Gumby:

the backend also crashes due to my NFS share on occasion as well. Specifically when I am deleting files from mythweb and sometimes from the frontend

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Tommck:

my friend's trying to install MythTV for the first time.. (I'm on the phone with him) and the mc.sql file doesn't seem to create any tables or anything. When he goes into mysql (correct database) and does a "show tables", it returns an empty set.

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Malebolge:

Gumby: mine also crashes when ring is full

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Tommck:

is this new functionality?

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Tommck:

0.17 (not CVS)

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Gumby:

Tommck: have him check what is in the mc.sql

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Tommck:

Gumby – it doesn't have any table creations in it or anything..

[19:12:00]

Tommck:

just the DB creation

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KillerBunny:

Its absolute.

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Gumby:

Tommck: lemme check whats in mine... one sec

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Tommck:

create db... grant all... create temp tables... flush privs... done

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KillerBunny:

As far as i know, read it in the readme.

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Tommck:

(grant create temp tables)

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KillerBunny:

You only need to be sure that you have the correct grants.

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Tommck:

no instance of "create table" in the file

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KillerBunny:

Tommck, it create the tables it self.

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KillerBunny:

try to run the program.

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Gumby:

Tommck: run mythtv-setup as the user that is going to run mythtv

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Gumby:

the script should create and fill the DB

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Tommck:

that just doesn't seem normal

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KillerBunny:

AND RTFM.

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Gumby:

why not?

[19:15:00]

KillerBunny:

its all there.

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Tommck:

is it possible, if he had the "<" as a ">" in the installation that it would have dumped a small mc.sql with the code to create an empty database?

[19:15:00]

Gumby:

Tommck: the mc.sql file is simple for the db creation. it doesnt create any tables

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Gumby:

its 5 lines long... thats it

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Tommck:

ok.. cool

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GreyFoxx:

mc.sql doesn't create tyhe tables

[19:16:00]

KillerBunny:

Its for the grants, because you want the mythtv user to have access to the db.

[19:16:00]

Gumby:

so like Ive already said. run the setup and that will create the tables

[19:16:00]

Gumby:

or do as KillerBunny suggested and RTFM :)

[19:17:00]

Tommck:

he's reading the FM... where does it talk about creating a user called "mythtv" ?

[19:17:00]

Gumby:

why do you need a user called mythtv?

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Tommck:

it's complaining about being able to access the DB

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schmots:

you don't.. you just need the user you run mythfrontend as to have access to the video folder.

[19:18:00]

Tommck:

when running mythtv-setup it says "select preferred language"

[19:18:00]

schmots:

the myth / myth user is a mysql only account.

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Tommck:

then says "cannot connect to the data"

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schmots:

do you have mysql installed?

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Tommck:

and has "mythtv" for the user...

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Gumby:

and running

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Gumby:

hehe

[19:18:00]

Tommck:

yes... it's installed.

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schmots:

did you run the setup for sql?

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Gumby:

schmots: is the sql db on the same box?

[19:18:00]

Tommck:

where does it talk about creating a mysql user named "mythtv" ?

[19:18:00]

Gumby:

err

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Gumby:

Tommck:

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schmots:

Tommck what distro are you using?

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Tommck:

Gumby – it's running or the database file would have failed

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Tommck:

SUSE 9.2

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schmots:

Tommck nope.. first part of mythtv can run with out the db.

[19:19:00]

Tommck:

oh.. crap bitten by console error output again.

[19:19:00]

schmots:

Tommck will this box do anything but mytht?

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stealth:

how can i use digital capture from my bt87x card? i have snd_bt87x loaded and i can alsamixer -c 1 and set the TV Tuner to CAPTUR, i set /dev/dsp1 in mythsetup also but still no sound. There is a lot of noise may the sound be on composite instead of tv?

[19:19:00]

flexy:

I'm using the myth build in lirc support, can I run irxevent at the same time and have them both working at the same time?

[19:19:00]

Tommck:

it's complaining about the qt3-mysql package

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Tommck:

schmots – yep

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schmots:

Tommck then for a really easy setup.. switch to Fedora core 3 and follow the howto at www.wilsonet.com

[19:20:00]

Gumby:

schmots: for an easier install use knoppmyth

[19:20:00]

Gumby:

lol

[19:20:00]

schmots:

you will need a highspeed net access though.

[19:20:00]

schmots:

knoppmyth didn't work for me.

[19:20:00]

Tommck:

schmots – I said "yes"... it will do anything but myth...

[19:20:00]

schmots:

trust me I would have rather been debian based.

[19:20:00]

Gumby:

works great here. hehe

[19:21:00]

Gumby:

I have 1 knoppmyth box and two debian boxes

[19:21:00]

schmots:

yes it will do anything but myth??? not an english major were you?

[19:21:00]

schmots:

I have a Debian server, a gentoo workstation, debian laptop, and fedora mythbox.

[19:21:00]

Tommck:

schmots – you said "will it do anything but myth?".. I said "yes"

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Tommck:

you then assumed I meant "no" :)

[19:21:00]

Tommck:

you weren't an english major were you? :)

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schmots:

nope.. I was a comms major

[19:22:00]

schmots:

Graphic Design.. but I can't draw so I am system engineer

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schmots:

s/system/a system

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Tommck:

:)

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schmots:

Tommck there is a mysql setup file.. let me see if I can find what its called.

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schmots:

mc.sql

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schmots:

do these things..

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zamboni:

mysql < mc.sql

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schmots:

# mysql -u root mysql

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schmots:

mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('ROOT_PWD') WHERE user='root';

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schmots:

mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

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schmots:

mysql> quit

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Tommck:

schmots – all done

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schmots:

$ mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.17/database/mc.sql

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Tommck:

schmots – also done

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zamboni:

and do yourself a favour install the phpmyadmin package

[19:27:00]

schmots:

and then enter the password you gave in the update user line.

[19:27:00]

schmots:

so you already imported the mc.sql file?

[19:27:00]

schmots:

that should have setup the mysql mythtv user.

[19:28:00]

schmots:

and you ran mythtvsetup before running mythfrontend?

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Tommck:

schmots – yep

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Tommck:

and it complained about connecting to the database

[19:28:00]

schmots:

and you are starting mythbackend before mythfrontend.

[19:28:00]

schmots:

ah.. database local?

[19:28:00]

Tommck:

schmots – local database... never ran front end or back end..

[19:28:00]

Tommck:

get the error running setup

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schmots:

you select language.. and then you get an error?

[19:29:00]

schmots:

about not being able to connect to the db.

[19:29:00]

Tommck:

yep

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Tommck:

right

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schmots:

is the mysqld service running?

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schmots:

ps aux |grep mysql

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schmots:

should return several lines.

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schmots:

or you could always try restarting the service.

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schmots:

/etc/init.d/mysqld restart

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zamboni:

cool thing about the phpMyAdmin is it lets you be king of the database no matter who you are logged in as

[19:31:00]

schmots:

zamboni only if you have a master password account.

[19:31:00]

zamboni:

yep thats true

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Tommck:

schmots – it's running

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schmots:

did you restart it?

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schmots:

restart it and try again.

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Tommck:

just a sec

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Tommck:

the exact erorr is "QMYSQL3 driver not loaded"

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Tommck:

(restarted... same prob)

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Tommck:

found the issue

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zamboni:

tada

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Tommck:

the qt3 package for Suse doesn't support mysql.. it's a separate RPM

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Tommck:

but everything compiles without it... which is the messed up thing

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Tommck:

that was it...

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zamboni:

(slackwere slackware ra ra ra)

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Tommck:

huh?

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zamboni:

an aside rooting for slackware

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Tommck:

Does one still specify PVR 250/350 for a 150?

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Gumby:

150's are unsopprted (officially)

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Tommck:

Gumby – and?

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Gumby:

unsupported

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Gumby:

and... good luck getting it to work if you cant figure out a simple DB table population

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Tommck:

Gumby – go fuck yourself

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zamboni:

oh oh

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nullstring:

such anger

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Gumby:

lol

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Mrgoose:

anyone use amd64 with mythtv?

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Gumby:

naw, to be honest I am spent. the gf just left.

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zamboni:

someone here does

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zamboni:

lol

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zamboni:

Gumby and all bent outta shape?

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Gumby:

Tommck: have you bothered looking at the pvr150 support in mythtv before you try and use it?

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Gumby:

zamboni: not as much as she is

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Tommck:

Gumby – yes

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Gumby:

then you should know which tuner type you need to choose

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Tommck:

Gumby – My friend (for whom I'm speaking right now) already has it working with IVTV

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Gumby:

if any at all

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Tommck:

You know... this is called the "user-to-user support channel".. if you don't want to support me, then don't

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Gumby:

Tommck: there is user support and there is.. I am too lazy to figure it out for myself so I am going to go ask someone else

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Tommck:

Gumby – the documentation on the 150 and 500 is fragmented (much like the rest of Myth documentation).. I know there are people in here who use the 150 (for instance xris, who just logged in) and it would be a lot faster asking than going to mythtv.org.. then mythtvwiki.info and then wilsonet.com and then googling for an answer

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nullstring:

you are hereby damned to spend the next 200 years answering the same stupid question, constantly

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Gumby:

lol

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Gumby:

hear hear

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Tommck:

nullstring – nobody said he has to respond

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schmots:

sorry was setting up a SCO laptop.. did I miss anything.

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purplefro1:

Downgrading to QT 3.3.3 solved my "off by 1 hour" schedule problem.

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nullstring:

just general shenannigangs

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Gumby:

purplefro1: qt solved that? strange

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nullstring:

err, one too many gs there

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schmots:

purplefro1 what timezone are you in?

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purplefro1:

Yeah, it was suggested by someone else in this channel. I'm in US/Eastern.

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Gumby:

interesting

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schmots:

wanna way to fix it with out downgrading.

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purplefro1:

Well, I've already downgraded, but give me a clue anyway.

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schmots:

ln -s /usr/share/timeinfo/EST5EDT /etc/localtime

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purplefro1:

Why is EST5EDT different than US/Eastern?

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schmots:

That way you stay with 3.3.4..you stay in your timezone and you get myth..

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schmots:

EST5EDT I believe accounts for the bug in 3.3.4

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purplefro1:

Oh.

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schmots:

or lack of bug rather.

[19:49:00]

purplefro1:

This is why time should almost always be stored as "seconds since epoch".

[19:49:00]

schmots:

thats whats wrong.. Myth is accounting for a bug that is gone now.

[19:49:00]

schmots:

epoch? january 1 1970?

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purplefro1:

I've seen SO many problems in time.

[19:50:00]

purplefro1:

Yeah, epoch=Jan 1 1970.

[19:50:00]

schmots:

man mythweb is nice.

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rhygin:

time is stored in seconds since the epoch, your TZ and /etc/localtime just determine how it's displayed/formatted

[19:50:00]

schmots:

I ssh into my home network.. I forward port 80.. I schedual stuff to be recorded.

[19:51:00]

rhygin:

the problem is that Qt had a problem, the myth dev's added a work around, Qt was fixed and in turn broke the workaround from the myth dev's

[19:51:00]

schmots:

Man.. now that I have myth working... I need a way bigger harddrive.

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purplefro1:

rhygin is right about UNIX time. It eliminates ambiguities on the day of the time change, and also bypasses the issue of what time zone you are in, especially useful if you're managing hosts in multiple time zones.

[19:52:00]

schmots:

built myth on an old system lieing around.. got it up to 256megs of ram.. p2 400 but only a 30 gig harddrive.. which only gave me 20 gigs for /video

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purplefro1:

schmots, I recommend you look into LVM. When you use an LVM partition with reiserfs, it's possible to grown and shrink filesystems with the system live.

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schmots:

I am just going to rebuild this system down the road in a new box.. and into a shuttle case.. and I will usr LVM then.

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purplefro1:

I use LVm for /usr, /var, /home, and /home/video.

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Gumby:

I finally figured out my LVM problems yesterday

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schmots:

on this box only /var and /video will grow.

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Gumby:

everytime I rebooted the LVM would break

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Gumby:

turns out it was cause /dev/cdrom0 was pointing to /dev/hdd

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purplefro1:

weird.

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Gumby:

everytime I rebooted it'd tell me that one of the uuid;'s couldnt be found.

[19:55:00]

Gumby:

deleted the symlink and the problem is gone

[19:56:00]

schmots:

what determins where myth gets the screenshot for recorded shows?

[19:56:00]

purplefro1:

I think there's a setting for "how many seconds into the program".

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Jam-Laptop:

hi, i seem to have messed up my guide data, is there an easy way to empty it so i can rerun mythfilldatabase?

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purplefro1:

According to what I've been told, if you can fire up the mysql shell, you can "delete from programs".

[19:58:00]

purplefro1:

If all your stuff is off by 1 hour, that's not enough.

[19:58:00]

Jam-Laptop:

lol

[19:58:00]

purplefro1:

There's a deeper bug.

[19:58:00]

Jam-Laptop:

that is my problem

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Jam-Laptop:

well, that was a problem. now myth has decided i have guide data til 2033

[19:58:00]

Jam-Laptop:

dunno where it got that from

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purplefro1:

Evidently there is a bug in earlier versions of QT that mythtv had a workaround for. 3.3.4 fixed the bug, and broke the mythtv workaround.

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Jam-Laptop:

aaaah

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purplefro1:

I downgraded QT to version 3.3.3 , cleared out my programs table, and re-ran mythfilldatabase, but I've been told there's an easier solution:

[20:00:00]

purplefro1:

Try changing /etc/localtime from a symlink to US/Eastern into a symlink to EST5EDT.

[20:00:00]

Jam-Laptop:

erm, im in the UK

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schmots:

hehe

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purplefro1:

OK, then most of what I said is likely useless.

[20:01:00]

schmots:

Jam do you follow daylight savings there?

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Jam-Laptop:

:-/

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purplefro1:

Try the "delete from programs"; stop mythbackend ; start mythbackend; mythfilldatabase

[20:01:00]

Jam-Laptop:

schmots: yes, thats what screwed it up

[20:01:00]

schmots:

... You need to find a better timezone to use.

[20:02:00]

schmots:

Lots of people have found others to use.. some can be permit changes.. some only till myth has a fix.

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GeckoFiend:

schmots myth has a fix. you just need to be running CVS for it

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schmots:

oh yeah.. already?

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schmots:

I am only running .17

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schmots:

I think.

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candc540:

I Fixed it

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schmots:

but I switched my timezone to EST5EDT and I work fine now.

[20:13:00]

candc540:

mythbackend is running correctly

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candc540:

at boot that is

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candc540:

someone gave me a init.d script for mythbackend and it was looking for it in the wrong location

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candc540:

but default run level for debian is 2 not 5

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schmots:

yeah even with x kinda stupid huh.

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candc540:

for anyone interested

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schmots:

you can change that really easy though.

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Gumby:

hrm.. how can you tell which runlevel you currently are in

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candc540:

now if i could only figure out how to get lircmd working

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schmots:

just edit your rc.S file and change the id:2:initdefault: line

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schmots:

runlevel

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schmots:

you use the runlevel command.. you should get something like C 2

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candc540:

mine is N 2

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Gumby:

N 2

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schmots:

N.. thats what it is.

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candc540:

you must be running debian Gumby

[20:15:00]

schmots:

the first character is your last runlevel.. second your current.

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candc540:

:)

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Gumby:

:)

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schmots:

N means you havn't switched runlevels.. to switch just use

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schmots:

init #

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schmots:

where # is the runlevel you want to enter.

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Gumby:

or telinit

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candc540:

ohh init 6

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candc540:

:)

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candc540:

hahaha

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schmots:

yeah.. that will work...

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candc540:

that would be funny

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schmots:

easier to do init 1 ; init 3

[20:16:00]

schmots:

same basic thing as a reboot.

[20:16:00]

candc540:

ok do an apt-get install mythtv

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schmots:

but much faster.

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candc540:

then do a 'init 6'

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candc540:

:)

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schmots:

you still have to edit your /etc/rc.S file

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purplefro1:

The traditional default run level is 3, but tradition doesn't matter for shit to people who grew up on linux.

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schmots:

or /etc/rc/rc.sysint if your using fedora

[20:17:00]

schmots:

traditionally runlevel was 2.

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schmots:

3 came to be cause of networking.

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schmots:

2 allowed for serial connections.

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candc540:

Gumby, you having problmes with mythbackend running at startup?

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purplefro1:

Ah, I'm showing my newbieness. Everything had a network when I started :)

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Jam-Laptop:

did you say the program guide data is stored in the 'program' table?

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Gumby:

candc540: none at all

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schmots:

1, s, S = single user/maintance

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purplefro1:

yes, program, or maybe it's programs.

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candc540:

oh thought you might have been

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schmots:

2 = user defined

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Jam-Laptop:

my sql is a little rusty ;)

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purplefro1:

mysql usually has completion, so you can press TAB to complete the name.

[20:18:00]

schmots:

3 = multi user with networking

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schmots:

4 = user defined

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schmots:

5 = x

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schmots:

0 = off 6 = reboot

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** xris is setting up the first seattle MUG meetup. **

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schmots:

and I have never learned what 7,8 and 9 do

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candc540:

Jam-Laptop, mysql -u mythtv -p mythtv mythconverg

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purplefro1:

"delete from program" blows away all the program listings, so mythfilldatabase will load them all over.

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candc540:

Jam-Laptop, 'delete from program;'

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candc540:

exit or quit

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Jam-Laptop:

candc540: im in the sql console, it says there is no program or programs table

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candc540:

then mythfilldatabase

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Jam-Laptop:

there programs.<something here>

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purplefro1:

Are you connected to the mythconverg database, or another database?

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Jam-Laptop:

mythconverg

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schmots:

jam do you have myphpadmin?

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purplefro1:

try just "delete from programs;

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candc540:

did you ever get mythfilldatabase to work?

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Jam-Laptop:

got it

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Jam-Laptop:

cheers

[20:20:00]

Jam-Laptop:

im being newbish

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Jam-Laptop:

...

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candc540:

:) np

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candc540:

btw what card u have?

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purplefro1:

I was a newbie once.

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schmots:

anyone here running mythtv on anything lower than a p2 400?

[20:20:00]

candc540:

I still am, I just learn fast :)

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Jam-Laptop:

im using a UK digital tv card from Happuage

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Jam-Laptop:

that was a bitch to get working ;)

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candc540:

nice i want a digital but none that i know of in the us

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candc540:

what drivers does it use Jam-Laptop

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Jam-Laptop:

cx8800

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candc540:

anyone know of a digital card in the USA?

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purplefro1:

From what I've heard, much of the USA digital cable is encrypted.

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Jam-Laptop:

this is digital terrestrial, our cable and satellite digital is encrypted

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candc540:

ahhh

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purplefro1:

Until the CableCard stuff hits the shelves (which the FCC rolled back by a year) we I think are doomed.

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Jam-Laptop:

that gonna come with a smart card decoder?

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purplefro1:

I'm just assuming that Microsoft will force some Vendor to create a Cable-Card accepting TV tuner card for their Media Center PC.

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Jam-Laptop:

aaah

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purplefro1:

Then it's just a question of beating the specs out of the company, or reverse-engineering it.

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Jam-Laptop:

wonder if we'll ever get a digital satellite card for the uk, that would rock. DVB-T is very limited

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zamboni:

DVB cards dont they work over there in the UK?

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Jam-Laptop:

yeah

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Jam-Laptop:

im using one

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zamboni:

lie the ones out of germany

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Jam-Laptop:

but satellite is encrypted, we dont get free to air satellite

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zamboni:

oh

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zamboni:

no FTA in the UK?

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candc540:

purplefro1, and it will only work with mce we'll all have to reverse it

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Jam-Laptop:

FTA?

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Jam-Laptop:

aah

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Jam-Laptop:

free to air

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zamboni:

yep

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Jam-Laptop:

yes, but its terrestrial

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Jam-Laptop:

not via satellite

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zamboni:

hows your spanish,french?

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Jam-Laptop:

you can get there free to air channels, and a free card to decrypt them but for license reasons they are transmitted encrypted

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candc540:

anyone ever try to figure out the ir blaster on the pvr cards

[20:26:00]

Jam-Laptop:

erm, pretty poor tbh

[20:26:00]

candc540:

mine has an ir blaster

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candc540:

i want it to work so i can get it to control the digital cable box

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candc540:

it would be ncie

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candc540:

*nice

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Laurens_:

hi all! can sombody help me with an crashing mythbrowser? when i open a page and want to return to the bookmark manager the selected bookmark becomes white and myth hangs. Any idea?

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** zamboni wonders what a mythbrowser is **

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Jam-Laptop:

yeah that one passed me by too

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zamboni:

Jam-Laptop wher are you in the U.K?

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candc540:

is there such a device that works with mythtv that will control my digital cable box?

[20:30:00]

zamboni:

lirc probably

[20:30:00]

candc540:

homemade or otherwise?

[20:30:00]

Laurens_:

mythbrowser, a browser for mythtv?

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Jam-Laptop:

zamboni: usually manchester (my myth box is) but im currently in Newcastle

[20:31:00]

zamboni:

good beer

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zamboni:

gulp!

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zamboni:

ajhhh

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Jam-Laptop:

newcastle or manchester?

[20:31:00]

Laurens_:

geuss no one has installed ;)

[20:31:00]

zamboni:

and football, of course

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Jam-Laptop:

;)

[20:31:00]

zamboni:

ver see the film Fever Pitch?

[20:31:00]

Jam-Laptop:

unfortunately not

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Jam-Laptop:

i know the book though

[20:32:00]

zamboni:

romantic comedy about a football fan

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Jam-Laptop:

yeah

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zamboni:

entertaining

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zamboni:

Laurens_ can you be more specific

[20:32:00]

Jam-Laptop:

might have to check it out

[20:32:00]

zamboni:

mythfrontend?

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Jam-Laptop:

im assuming its a thing that lets you view web pages through myth?

[20:33:00]

zamboni:

good watch with the wife/gf

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Jam-Laptop:

god damn it it still thinks everything is an hour early

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Laurens_:

well when i select an bookmark from my list, the page opens and the mythbrowser works fine. I can browse all the html sites in myth. But when i return (by pressing ESC) to the bookmark-part of mythbrowser, myth hangs! The current selection in mythbrowser-bookmarks becomes white and then myth yust hangs

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Laurens_:

on the background i see the kde libs do various things and after a while myth hang it says: DCOPServer : slotSuicide() -> Exit

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Jam-Laptop:

no idea Laurens_, sorry

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Laurens_:

:( allright thanks!

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laga:

akira_work: fuck yourself. thank you.

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kormoc:

such vauglar language so early!

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laga:

it's 9:40pm for me ;)

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laga:

21:39 -!- akira_work (Fuck You)

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laga:

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laga:

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laga:

that's what i meant.

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kormoc:

ya, I know :P

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kormoc:

I just felt like making a randomish comment.

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Jam-Laptop:

its official, my time zone is buggered

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laga:

kormoc: well, ok.

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Ivan_Alias``:

can anyone tell me how I get the buttons in mythtv to work, its the qt issue with the buttons going down but not registering when I press enter?

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Ivan_Alias``:

i need to downgrade qt, but im not sure how

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Ivan_Alias``:

in fedora

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schmots:

Ivan on what screen?

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schmots:

the next back finish buttons?

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Ivan_Alias``:

yep

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schmots:

alt+n for next

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schmots:

alt+c for cancel

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schmots:

alt+b for back

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schmots:

alt+f for finish

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Ivan_Alias``:

yes, I can get around it with those commands, but I know there is a way to fix this..

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schmots:

seems a small issue.. how often do you have to change your settings?

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Ivan_Alias``:

well exiting the frontend doesnt work either

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schmots:

ah

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schmots:

yeah.. only my remote lets me do that.

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Ivan_Alias``:

one of my boxes is fine, its running qt 3.3.4–2.0.3

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Ivan_Alias``:

I just cant remember how I downgraded it!

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der_Angler:

hello

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der_Angler:

i've got problem with today cvs and fedora core 2 ... somebody can help me i hope!!!

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der_Angler:

when watching liveTV with dvb-s or watching a dvb-s recording i got a normal sound but slow-motion pictrue

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der_Angler:

and frontend give me following error:

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der_Angler:

2005-04–04 21:57:35.349 prebuffering pause

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der_Angler:

2005-04–04 21:57:35.760 Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!

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der_Angler:

2005-04–04 21:57:35.769 Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!

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der_Angler:

somebody know what to do???????????

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visit0r:

I think there was some kind of option for this in the menu where you set audio settings

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laga:

i think it was in the playback section. extra audio buffering. i wonder how that helps with audio buffer overflow – but then again, i odnt know anything about this stuff

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visit0r:

same here

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der_Angler:

audio settings doesn't change anything

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der_Angler:

some other idea

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Dr_Barnowl:

anyone know the input.h define for the key that bears the "#" symbol?

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gr8nash:

anyone know what /dev/DVBWHATEVER to like to /dev/video* for myth to use hd3000 dvb drivers?!?

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davis:

any ivtv us4ers here?

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** Gumby ducks behind the nearests shrub **

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Dr_Barnowl:

gr8nash: Which version of MythTV you on?

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gr8nash:

.17 atm

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davis:

Gumby: dammit gumby

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Gumby:

lol

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Gumby:

I use it, probably cant help you with it much though

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davis:

heh

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davis:

when I try to run ivtvfwextract, I get a failure when it runs.

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Gumby:

whats the failure?

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davis:

cant open /tmp/ivtvex.2051/hcwPVRP2.sys

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Gumby:

ahh, Ive seen that before. I really cant remember how I fixed it. sorry

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davis:

ok. lets go to the great google. many thanks.

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mag0o:

i had to edit ivtvfwextract, make my own tmp directory, and put hcwPVRP2.sys in the tmp directory

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davis:

i thought about doing that. lets try it.

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davis:

did you also notice that the case is different on the letters after the hcw part?

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mag0o:

yes

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davis:

i tweaked the perl script to fix that, but it didn't help.

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Ralpha6:

davis: what card you running the script for

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davis:

350

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Ralpha6:

I know for the 500 you don't have to run the script, the driver is HcwMakoA.ROM which just needs to be copied to /lib/modules

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Ralpha6:

and which ivtv drivers btw

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mag0o:

davis: heres what i did – http://pastebin.ca/8798

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davis:

i got it working.

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davis:

i did as mag0o said.

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mag0o:

;)

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davis:

i made a dir and copied it by hand.

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Ralpha6:

coolio

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davis:

many thanks.

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schmots:

I just noticed something... after tommorow.. all my program times are wrong.

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schmots:

by a couple hours.

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schmots:

But today and tommorow seem right.

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Malebolge:

gr8nash: try using /dev/dtv2

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schmots:

scratch that.. just today is right.

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mag0o:

daylight savings maybe?

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Malebolge:

is anybody using HD-3000 for qam here?

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schmots:

maybe I only did a mythfilldatabase --refresh-today after fixing my timezone..

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schmots:

emptying programs and doing a new fill.

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schmots:

noo.. I had the timezone thing fixed yesterday.. Now it seems its all broken again.. even today is messed up again.

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: I had that too ; you on grab_uk_rt?

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kdsf:

here are a few error messages, that i get from the shell windows when i execute mythfrontend http://geocities.com/sajubien/frontend.txt

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schmots:

no.

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schmots:

USA

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kdsf:

and mythbackend http://geocities.com/sajubien/backend.txt

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schmots:

datadirect

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kdsf:

i am trying to get help from the mailing group but they are no help

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davis:

welp cat/dev/vide0 > first_capture has snow.

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davis:

i guess that is good.

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schmots:

do you have an antenna/cable feed hooked up davis?

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kdsf:

any ideas?

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davis:

test_ioctl -p 0 or 5

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schmots:

I use 4 I think.

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davis:

i have a vcr hooked up on the tv input.

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: I had a load of dupes that were one hour early.

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schmots:

Dr_Barrnow yeah.. cause of daylight savings.. but I had it fixed last night...

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: I just truncated the program table and refilled it ; but I had to do it several times.

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davis:

same thing.

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davis:

i need to get a tv hooked up.

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davis:

maybe my vcr or tape is bad.

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kdsf:

anybody? ideas?

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davis:

thanks a bunch. see you tomorrow.

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kdsf:

i have a winfast ledtek tv2000xp

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kdsf:

running FC3

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kdsf:

tested it w/ tvtime, and get a picture, but when i go to watchtv, it gives me a black screen, and those are the error messages

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kdsf:

help?

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mtjs:

hi

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kdsf:

hi

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kdsf:

are you smart?

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kdsf:

i need help

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** kormoc blinks. **

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kormoc:

Wow, what a way to guage things.

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mtjs:

I've reinstalled myth .17 and now if I press pause I don't see the % that the buffer is full

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mtjs:

it only says --

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mtjs:

kormoc: buy a new card like a pvr 350 and install gentoo

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kdsf:

ahh...kormoc seems smart

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mtjs:

then I'll help

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kdsf:

or...

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kdsf:

u see my 2 error files>

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kdsf:

?

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kdsf:

i get a bunch of errors when I go to watch tv on mythfrontend

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kormoc:

mtjs, I already run gentoo, just need a pvr card rather then my old ratty bttv :P

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kormoc:

kdsf, I'm taking a gander.

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mtjs:

kormoc: that was against kdsf :)

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mtjs:

sorry :)

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kormoc:

mtjs, hehe, tis okay :P

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mtjs:

kormoc: gentoo rulez for install :)

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kormoc:

kdsf, First of all, it appears that there's something fishy with your ivtv drivers

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kdsf:

i dont use the ivtv driver

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kdsf:

i have a winfast ledtek tv2000xp

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kdsf:

bttv

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

IVTV_IOC_G_CODEC:: Bad address

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kormoc:

correct me if I am wrong, but that's a IVTV error, not a bttv

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mtjs:

kormoc: :)

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kdsf:

hmm...i guess i missed that...umm...i feel noob, but what do i do?

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kormoc:

well, I'd start with lsmod and make sure you don't have ivtv loaded

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mtjs:

kdsf: keep feeling noob and install windows and use a windows pvr

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mtjs:

kdsf: how long are you installing already ?

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kdsf:

how ong am i installing?

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kdsf:

what do you mean?

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mtjs:

how long in time

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mtjs:

are you trying to install mythtv ?

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kdsf:

have it installed, but trying to get it working, been trying on and off for about 2 weeks

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kormoc:

kdsf, likly myth is installed fine, you just need to get your drivers working correctly.

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kdsf:

well...tvtime works fine with it

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GeckoFiend:

kdsf you didn't tell myth you had a hardware encoder did you?

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mtjs:

kdsf: mythtv is a little more complex than tvtime :)

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schmots:

ummm so program guide was an hour behind yesterday morning.. I changed timezones.. did a refresh, refill.. and it was right.. for yesterday and today... noticed tommorow was WAY off.. cleared database.. did a reload.. off by an hour again.

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kdsf:

ok, all i did was run mythtvsetup and filled out verything in there

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kdsf:

thats the only configuration i did

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Beirdo:

schmots: serves you right for using the wrong timezone :)

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Ralpha6:

kdsf: if you're not using ivtv drivers then you should stop them from loading

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kdsf:

im not sure how...

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kdsf:

lsmod is supposed to list all the modules you hav installed, right?

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kdsf:

theres no ivtv in there

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Ralpha6:

yes

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kdsf:

so..?

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Ralpha6:

dmesg | grep ivtv if that returns a bunch of stuff then ivtv drivers are being loaded

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kdsf:

nope, doesnt return anything

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kormoc:

grep for bttv and see what it's saying?

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candc540:

i think i'm gonna be sick

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Beirdo:

kdsf: you likley told the setup program that you have an MPEG2 encoder card, which you don't

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Beirdo:

you have a V4L card

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candc540:

i went to chinese food for lunch found (i think) a roach leg in my white rice

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Beirdo:

meh

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candc540:

how gross is that

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kdsf:

omg

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Beirdo:

a little extra protein

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kdsf:

i just figured it out

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kdsf:

...in the mythtvsetup, i had it under mpeg2 encoder card

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candc540:

i found em in soy sauce bottles before but in my rice that's gross

[22:02:00]

kdsf:

and changed tiv4l card

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kdsf:

yea

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kdsf:

wow...

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kdsf:

thanks

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candc540:

Beirdo

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candc540:

another one never to return again

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kormoc:

Mmm... Roach Legs...

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candc540:

do you get many repeats in here?

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Beirdo:

repeats?

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candc540:

or just a bunch of people that come get help never to return again

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kormoc:

So much like crunchy frog legs...

[22:03:00]

Beirdo:

like people asking the same damn question someone else did?

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kormoc:

yeah, all the time.

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Beirdo:

oooh, there's a fair number of people that stick around and help :)

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jonr_:

Is the only difference between the HD3000 and the Air2PC HDTV cards is that the Air2PC can pick up weaker OTA signals better?

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Beirdo:

go read the FAQ

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jonr_:

I have

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gr8nash:

that and everyone makes villians outta the pchdtv guys

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Beirdo:

the air2pc is a better designed card

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Beirdo:

and currently is unavailable

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jonr_:

I know. :(

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candc540:

i try to help :)

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candc540:

when i can

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jonr_:

I could back order but am afraid I will get one with the BC flag

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jonr_:

They say it won't but I have amazing luck

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Beirdo:

Hmm

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candc540:

Beirdo any device (home made or other) that can be implemented with mythtv to change the channel on your sat/tv box when its going to record?

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Beirdo:

I think tonight maybe I'll work on nuv2avi some

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candc540:

or anyone else for that matter

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Beirdo:

yes

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kormoc:

candc540, look up ir blasters.

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candc540:

will the pvr-150 integrated ir blaster work?

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candc540:

the retail version has one

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: Hey, are you using DVB?

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candc540:

kormoc do they work via lirc? and do you need a special plugin for mythtv

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: I think I worked out why the EPG data is all fsked up

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kormoc:

candc540, donno, I don't have one, I just know that's what they are called and what they do :P

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candc540:

lol

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Dr_Barnowl:

Does the "use on-air EPG" feature actually work for DVB?

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jonr_:

candc540: try this link http://www.irblaster.info/ it is what I use and it works very nice

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candc540:

thanks

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jonr_:

np

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schmots:

Dr why

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schmots:

I just gleared and reloaded my programs.. and while I thought I had this fixed last night.. its broken again today.

[22:18:00]

schmots:

Dr_Barnowl why do you think the program guide is messed up?

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: It's the on-air EPG feature (at least, it is for me)

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schmots:

?

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: You on DVB?

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schmots:

Whats DVB/

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Dr_Barnowl:

Digtal Video Broadcast... Digital TV (called Freeview here in UK)

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jonr_:

Well, maybe in June I will have my Air2PC card. :)

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schmots:

no I am not

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: What kind of tuner do you have?

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schmots:

pvr-350

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: Ah... well, for me, the damn thing was filling my database with EPG data as well as XMLTV data.

[22:20:00]

schmots:

that has nothing to do with the program guide

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jonr_:

Has anybody seen this? A cheap HDTV from Phillips, http://www.outlet.philips.com/b2c_redesign/b2 . . . uery=30PW850

[22:20:00]

jonr_:

H99&shop=OUTLET&x=14&y=11

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schmots:

the tuner that is

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jonr_:

http://www.outlet.philips.com/b2c_redesign/b2 . . . uery=30PW850

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jonr_:

H99&shop=OUTLET&x=14&y=11

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: I just checked, the duplicate entries had different text ; they match the EPG data on my setb top box.

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: But I guess that's not helping you :(

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schmots:

I don't have duplicate entries.

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jonr_:

well, you'll have to cut and pastet the full URL, sorry for the double, just trying to see if I could get it on one line

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schmots:

I have everything one hour off.

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schmots:

it was working last night..

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schmots:

it was one hour off yesterday.. I fixed it last night.. now its off again.

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Dr_Barnowl:

schmots: How's your timezone stuff set up? I messed around with ntpd for a bit, thinking it was timezone problems (we are on DST here too)

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schmots:

ln -s /usr/share/timeinfo/EST5EDT /etc/localtime

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schmots:

well I have to head home.. maybe I will figure it out in front of the box not just over ssh

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schmots:

exit

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Malebolge:

Anybody using HD-3000 for QAM here?

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Mrgoose:

http://orifice.net/1207

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captmiddy:

Dr_Barnowl_: are you having time problem?

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Dr_Barnowl_:

captmiddy: Nope, it was the on-air EPG filling my database with GMT-timed dupes

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candc540:

ok anyone in here do any programming?

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candc540:

as in writing drivers

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candc540:

i'm looking into maybe trying to figure out the PVR-150 IR Blaster

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topping:

ooooh yum

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candc540:

just need to find out where the heck to start

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candc540:

i would love to get that thing working

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topping:

i'd start with finding out the chipset

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topping:

find datasheets

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topping:

then see if you can ring it up

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candc540:

does hauppauge have anything like that posted on their site?

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topping:

they have something on the cx blah blah that is in there

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topping:

but i'm not sure if the irblaster is a secondary chip

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sarahemm{SA}:

hihi

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topping:

hi sarahemm

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candc540:

hey sarahemm

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topping:

candc540: methinks that the irblaster is the same chip on the 150/250/350/500

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candc540:

help us make a driver or something for the PVR-150 ir blaster

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candc540:

yeah me too

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sarahemm{SA}:

doesn't the ir hardware just hang off a GPIO of the main ASIC?

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candc540:

i dunno

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candc540:

i have no clue i'm just gonna go for it and try to figure it out even though i have no clue what the hell i'm doing or where to start

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candc540:

i just need help being pointed in the right direction

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candc540:

it should be like the other card the uh

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sarahemm{SA}:

0.17 seems to fix closed captioning finally! :)

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topping:

well, if it's gpio, then you are going to get into wakeup timers and whatnot

[22:58:00]

candc540:

AverMedia M179 or the bttv/Brooktree card

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candc540:

shouldn't it

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topping:

sarahemm{SA}: what card?

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sarahemm{SA}:

topping: what what?

[22:59:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

what card what?

[22:59:00]

topping:

what card are you getting CC with?

[22:59:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

oh, bttv.

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topping:

:)

[22:59:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

myth was corrupting captioning information in older versions tho

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topping:

ah

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sarahemm{SA}:

it was readable but took extra brain power.

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candc540:

sarahemm{SA}, shouldn't it be like the Avermedia M179 (ir blaster GPIO)

[22:59:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

now it's nice and clean :o)))

[22:59:00]

abracadabra:

getting super slow transfer speeds on a samba share between xp & fc3 any ideas?

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sarahemm{SA}:

candc540: who knows

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candc540:

i think it is

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topping:

go candc540, go!!!

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topping:

:-)

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candc540:

lol

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candc540:

topping: got a link to the uh thing on the hauppauge specs?

[23:01:00]

candc540:

can't find it now

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sarahemm{SA}:

there's specs?

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candc540:

apparantly according to topping

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topping:

the 150 just had specs released on the connexant chip a few weeks back

[23:01:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

the specs are open? woo!

[23:01:00]

candc540:

check this crap out

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candc540:

http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php

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topping:

search the gossamer threads for ivtv

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candc540:

good info on setting up ir blasters

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candc540:

can you see if you can find it for me topping?

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topping:

um, not at the moment

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candc540:

i gotta send an email at work

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topping:

sry

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candc540:

np

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gr8nash:

anyone use DVB and HD3000 here?

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gate__:

whats the average size of a 1 hour show if using a pvr 250.

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candc540:

who cares gr8nash we just want our pvr-150 ir blasters to work

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candc540:

:)

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candc540:

j/k

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candc540:

depends on the bitrate gate__

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gr8nash:

3 gig but can GREATLY vary

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gr8nash:

candc540, im so close i can taste it

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topping:

gr8nash: where did you get your card from?

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sarahemm{SA}:

3 *gig*?

[23:05:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

3 *gig*?

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sarahemm{SA}:

yikes. i'm used to like 750mb :P

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GotD0t:

haha

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GotD0t:

me to sarahemm{SA}

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topping:

gig = very big

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topping:

big big gig

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gr8nash:

topping, www.pchdtv.com

[23:06:00]

topping:

gr8nash: cool, thanks!

[23:06:00]

gr8nash:

i have been using it under 4vl for 5 months now

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** topping is wishing that he bought one of these instead of the boat anchors (xboxes) for front-ends **

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sarahemm{SA}:

topping: bought one of what?

[23:09:00]

topping:

bought a couple of xbox consoles yesterday, but they are 1.6

[23:09:00]

abracadabra:

so?

[23:09:00]

topping:

can't do much with em

[23:09:00]

abracadabra:

what's bad about 1.6?

[23:10:00]

topping:

can you?

[23:10:00]

abracadabra:

of cours eu can

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topping:

YAY!!

[23:10:00]

abracadabra:

course u *

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topping:

can i softmod them?

[23:10:00]

abracadabra:

bah

[23:10:00]

abracadabra:

softmod

[23:10:00]

abracadabra:

pffft

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topping:

i'll hardmod it np

[23:10:00]

abracadabra:

chip it

[23:10:00]

topping:

any favorites?

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abracadabra:

xenium

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** abracadabra wonders if he should ask his question again.... **

[23:11:00]

topping:

and that will let me load enough linux for myth frontend?

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sarahemm{SA}:

abracadabra: i didn't hear it the frist time, so :)

[23:12:00]

topping:

no idea on the samba from me

[23:12:00]

topping:

might ask on #fedora

[23:12:00]

topping:

they are very helpful i've found

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abracadabra:

should be more than enough

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abracadabra:

i forget xactly but i think you got a 4mb flash on it

[23:13:00]

abracadabra:

askig in fedora now

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topping:

coolio... thanks!! i was getting all sad b/c i already broke the seals and couldn't return it

[23:13:00]

abracadabra:

no response

[23:13:00]

abracadabra:

i think they are all asleep

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topping:

yah, they'll be back later

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topping:

they go pretty late

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abracadabra:

nah.. i think they all ingoring me

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candc540:

gr8nash, you're working on the ir blaster?

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topping:

abracadabra: sometimes the active ones don't know and you have to ask again in an hour

[23:15:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

what's the issue abracadabra ?

[23:15:00]

topping:

have you sniffed the network with ethereal yet?

[23:15:00]

gr8nash:

candc540, no im not

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gr8nash:

im wokring on DVB with the HD3000

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abracadabra:

sarahemm{SA} getting 3.5mb transfer speed on a 100mb network fc3-xp samba share

[23:16:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

3.5mbit or mbyte?

[23:16:00]

abracadabra:

abracadabra <- linux newb

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abracadabra:

mB

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abracadabra:

byte

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abracadabra:

heh

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sarahemm{SA}:

hrm.. that's not *too* bad.

[23:17:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

what do you get on other shares?

[23:17:00]

topping:

abracadabra: xenium ICE or S.P. ICE

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topping:

?

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abracadabra:

xp-xp is fine at least 20–30 with other stuff happening on my network

[23:18:00]

topping:

i can solder, just don't know if i should

[23:18:00]

abracadabra:

topping xenium

[23:18:00]

abracadabra:

topping if you are worried about soldering they have a solderless adpater for 1.6 too

[23:19:00]

topping:

not worried at all

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Mrgoose:

how cna i burn a 3gb divx file to a dvdiso

[23:19:00]

abracadabra:

D0 point is really the only "tricky" one if you can call it that

[23:19:00]

candc540:

oh

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candc540:

ok

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candc540:

good

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candc540:

well actually damn

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candc540:

now i have to research

[23:19:00]

abracadabra:

scrape it first with xacto to get the coating off down to copper

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candc540:

:)

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abracadabra:

Mrgoose nero?

[23:20:00]

Mrgoose:

no

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candc540:

topping: where was i that i should search?

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sarahemm{SA}:

abracadabra: uhh... you can't push 20–30Mbyte over 100Mbit ethernet.

[23:20:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

there's not that many bits per second availble :P

[23:20:00]

abracadabra:

hmm

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sarahemm{SA}:

(unless you're using 2–3 bit bytes of course *giggle*)

[23:20:00]

topping:

candc540: i found it in the archives for the ivtv module

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sarahemm{SA}:

the total available before overhead is like 12

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sarahemm{SA}:

then there's overhead for each layer

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abracadabra:

umm

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abracadabra:

then BWmeter must be fux0red

[23:21:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

or it's reporting in Mbit.

[23:21:00]

candc540:

got a url?

[23:21:00]

abracadabra:

capital B

[23:21:00]

candc540:

if so i can search there

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sarahemm{SA}:

abracadabra: *shrug* i dunno then. but in 100Mbit, there's not 30Mbytes.

[23:21:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

so even with zero overhead you can't do that.

[23:21:00]

abracadabra:

hmm

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candc540:

nevermind i think i found it

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abracadabra:

bwmeter is lying to me then

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** abracadabra shrugs **

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GreyFoxx:

30mbytes = ~ 240Megabit :)

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** sarahemm{SA} nods, sounds like it. **

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abracadabra:

hmm

[23:22:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

you are on 100mbit and not gig, right?

[23:22:00]

abracadabra:

maybe i have gigabit and i don't know it

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abracadabra:

:D

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sarahemm{SA}:

heh.

[23:22:00]

abracadabra:

nah it's 100

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sarahemm{SA}:

k.

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GreyFoxx:

30megabit is reasonable though

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** sarahemm{SA} is glad she has a 1.5 xbox that's flashable.. mew. **

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topping:

hehe

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GreyFoxx:

Hrm, go to the gym or finish setting up new dev box.

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** GreyFoxx thinks the new dev box can wait **

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** topping gets his motorcycle back on the road tomorrow, yay! **

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** sarahemm{SA} finally got her new dev box up, then upgraded her live box to .17, which fixed the issue with CC she was going to fix hehe **

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

saved you a bit of trouble

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sarahemm{SA}:

Beirdo: captioning works fine in .17 :)

[23:25:00]

Beirdo:

for bttv?

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeah. now i just have to get a PVR-500 and work in captioning support :)

[23:25:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

Beirdo: yeah.

[23:25:00]

Beirdo:

cool

[23:25:00]

Beirdo:

good to know

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sarahemm{SA}:

yeppers :)

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GreyFoxx:

I killed mine a couple weeks ago when I reinstalled my backend. I only bothered to resetup the frontends.

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** sarahemm{SA} is Happy! **

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Mrgoose:

anyone here cut commercials?

[23:25:00]

topping:

sarahemm{SA}: aren't you going to have to get ivtv dealing with captions first?

[23:25:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

err..

[23:25:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

that's what i just said :)

[23:26:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

that's what i meant anyway.

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topping:

ahhh okee

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topping:

:)

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sarahemm{SA}:

i'll put it in our development box and work on that before we put it in the live box.

[23:26:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

bttv works fine for now, but two tuners would be nice

[23:27:00]

Mrgoose:

heh

[23:27:00]

Mrgoose:

anyone cut commercials from mpeg2, or use amd64?

[23:27:00]

** sarahemm{SA} cuts in mpeg4 on celeron heh **

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candc540:

topping, any clue who posted it?

[23:27:00]

Mrgoose:

sarahemm{SA}: what do you use to do it?

[23:27:00]

topping:

hmm, did you search on the chip name

[23:27:00]

topping:

?

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candc540:

cx88?

[23:27:00]

topping:

no, it's cxXXXXX

[23:28:00]

topping:

i don't remember the digits tho

[23:28:00]

candc540:

ugh

[23:28:00]

candc540:

lol

[23:28:00]

candc540:

i don't have my computer here or i'd open and look

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topping:

sry i don't have any of the info either :(

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schmots:

Ok.. it doesn't mater what I do.. I can't change my timezone

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schmots:

I ln EST5EDT to /etc/localtime but date still says EDT

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Beirdo:

as it should

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Beirdo:

you are in EDT right now

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Beirdo:

EST5EDT does DST automatically

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schmots:

ah

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schmots:

then why is my program guide still an hour behind

[23:30:00]

Beirdo:

what version of qt?

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schmots:

ehhm... 3.3.4

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sarahemm{SA}:

downgrade to 3.3.3

[23:30:00]

Beirdo:

that's why

[23:30:00]

captmiddy:

schmots: what distro?

[23:30:00]

schmots:

I tried to downgrade.. but I can't

[23:30:00]

schmots:

fedora core 3

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Beirdo:

well then put up with your guide being wrong

[23:30:00]

schmots:

which I hate.. but it was the fastest way to myth.

[23:30:00]

captmiddy:

well I have a patch against 0.17 that fixes this

[23:30:00]

schmots:

?

[23:30:00]

schmots:

really?

[23:30:00]

captmiddy:

but you will have to compile mythtv yourself

[23:31:00]

schmots:

thats easy enough.. made sure to install the dev packages.. have gcc and make and the like

[23:31:00]

GreyFoxx:

schmots: bullshit. if it takes you more than 2–3 hours to install Linux (slackware) + Myth then you are doing something wrong :)

[23:31:00]

Beirdo:

heh

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schmots:

GreyFoxx.. I am a gentoo users

[23:31:00]

schmots:

user

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captmiddy:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87947

[23:31:00]

GreyFoxx:

There ya go

[23:31:00]

Beirdo:

so use gentoo, silly

[23:31:00]

captmiddy:

schmots: there is a patch there for you

[23:31:00]

captmiddy:

just take the patch not the ebuild

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sarahemm{SA}:

and with gentoo you can be up and running with a new myth system in slightly under 240 hours ;)

[23:32:00]

GreyFoxx:

heh

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Beirdo:

captmiddy: if you made that patch, be sure to send it to mythtv-dev mailing list

[23:32:00]

abracadabra:

lol

[23:32:00]

captmiddy:

I pulled the patch from the changes made to CVS today

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Beirdo:

oh

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Beirdo:

K

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abracadabra:

240 hours or 240 minutes? :P

[23:32:00]

Beirdo:

if you are going to compile anyways, use CVS

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captmiddy:

I just backported it to 0.17

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abracadabra:

i need to record something tonite

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captmiddy:

CVS and me have had bad experiences in the past

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abracadabra:

;)

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GreyFoxx:

Mutt: ml-mythtvusers [Msgs:750 New:637 3.4M] ARGgggg 90 more than just 3 hours ago

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schmots:

is that patch part of cvs total?

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captmiddy:

schmots: ?

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schmots:

If I switch it to gentoo and compile from cvs is that already part of it/

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captmiddy:

it is in cvs

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captmiddy:

I didn't make the patch really, I just backported it

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schmots:

any reason not to run cvs?

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captmiddy:

it is up to you if you want to run cvs

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sarahemm{SA}:

schmots: may not be as stable as the releases..

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schmots:

gonna try some stuff.. be back later.

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Beirdo:

the releases are just snapshots of CVS at particular times

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candc540:

hey anyone got a link for the pvr-150 datasheet

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candc540:

i need info for the ir blaster in particular

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candc540:

topping: link on web is not there anymore

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abracadabra:

hmmm bwmeter is giving me diff results than dumeter

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abracadabra:

grrr

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Beirdo:

muhahaha

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topping:

candc540: what's the name of the chip again?

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Beirdo:

you think it will be on the web easily accessible?!

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sarahemm{SA}:

Beirdo: people were saying it was posted to the ivtv list..

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abracadabra:

9.8mB vs. 21.3mB

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abracadabra:

:/

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sarahemm{SA}:

abracadabra: weird.

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Beirdo:

that doesn't mean it's meant to be used, they may have gotten it illicitly

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sarahemm{SA}:

you can't push 20mB heh

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sarahemm{SA}:

Beirdo: *nods*

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candc540:

cx23416

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abracadabra:

9.8mB is considered good for a 100mB net?

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candc540:

i think

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sarahemm{SA}:

almost too good, yes.

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Beirdo:

and as it's connexant, almost assuredly that's the case

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abracadabra:

that's xp-xp tho

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Beirdo:

9.8mB is exceedingly slow

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Beirdo:

get your units right

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abracadabra:

seems exceedingly slow to me

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topping:

CX25843

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candc540:

it is topping?

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abracadabra:

9.8mB/sec

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Beirdo:

9.8 millibyte is slower than a 300baud modem

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abracadabra:

lol

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Beirdo:

get your units right

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Beirdo:

:)

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abracadabra:

well

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sarahemm{SA}:

abracadabra: uhh.... with zero overhead you'd hit like 12

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abracadabra:

maybe the people that wrote BWmeter should label them right

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abracadabra:

but

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sarahemm{SA}:

so 10MBps is very good.

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Beirdo:

then sent them a turd

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** abracadabra dccs them a turd **

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Beirdo:

10 megabyte/s is decent for 100mbit ethernet

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abracadabra:

something aint right tho

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abracadabra:

brb

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Beirdo:

that's 80% of capacity

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sarahemm{SA}:

and if that's actual file transfer speed, there's lots of overhead on top of that with smb/cifs

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abracadabra:

132MB shouldn't take 15minutes to ransfer

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abracadabra:

i'm transfering a 132MB avi

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sarahemm{SA}:

uhh...

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candc540:

i guess it is topping that's it

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candc540:

:)

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abracadabra:

it's at 15min and still going

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candc540:

need to find it now

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sarahemm{SA}:

at 10MBps that should take 13 seconds

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sarahemm{SA}:

or so

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akira_work:

would an irda device built into my capture card show up in 'lspci'?

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sarahemm{SA}:

you're not gettin 10MBps then.

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topping:

wow, i guess i should have saved it off

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sarahemm{SA}:

akira_work: no.

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abracadabra:

10millibits/sec then

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abracadabra:

lol

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sarahemm{SA}:

usually they're hung off the GPIOs

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akira_work:

the only thing i have yet to get working is my remote

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** abracadabra wonders if picobits/sec is a industry term **

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topping:

http://www.conexant.com/servlets/DownloadServ . . . ?FileId=1814 ?

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topping:

no

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abracadabra:

average transfer rate: 130kB/sec

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akira_work:

i2c uses the SMBus correct?

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Beirdo:

no

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abracadabra:

maximum transfer rate: 9.58mB/sec

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Beirdo:

SMBus is based on I2C

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Beirdo:

not all I2C is SMBus

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akira_work:

i've got my lirc mod's inserted, but when i run 'irw' and press the keys on my remote(s) nothing comes up

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sarahemm{SA}:

what card?

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candc540:

hey topping check this out http://eklund.to/wiki/index.cgi?PVR150_I2C_IR_Remote

[23:49:00]

abracadabra:

on the fc3 box?

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candc540:

akira_work, yeah what card?

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akira_work:

wintv-go-plus

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akira_work:

i have exhausted the forums.

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sarahemm{SA}:

you have the i2c modules loaded and the specific module for your card?

[23:50:00]

sarahemm{SA}:

and you have lircd.conf set up?

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akira_work:

yes

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sarahemm{SA}:

okay...

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sarahemm{SA}:

i dunno then :) we use wireless keyboards around, no remotes yet.

[23:51:00]

candc540:

topping, nothing there just a one page spec sheet with no technical data

[23:51:00]

topping:

yah that's too bad

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topping:

i would ask on the ivtv list

[23:52:00]

topping:

i can't find it either

[23:52:00]

topping:

i wish i saved it

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Beirdo:

sarahemm{SA}: me too. IR keyboard all the way :)

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topping:

it was just within the last six weeks

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candc540:

hmmm

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candc540:

hey akira_work

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candc540:

what distro?

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candc540:

is lircd running

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candc540:

akira_work, you need help?

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akira_work:

candc540, sorry, i was reading up, i use gentoo

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abracadabra:

hmmm

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abracadabra:

transfer initiated from xp is 3 times faster than when initiated from fc3

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