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Thursday, May 26th, 2022, 00:50 UTC
[00:50:33] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: bennettpeter pushed 1 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/7460 . . . 8dba74061a90
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[02:19:47] hampton: MythHead: What do you need the external recorder for? MythTV can record directly from the HDHR Prime.
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[05:07:51] MythHead: hampton: I've been fighting with the direct recording in v31/HDHR-prime for months, and something is wrong, imho. see here -> https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4872
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[12:49:04] hampton: I've had a HDHR3–6CC with direct recording in my setup since 2011 (which would be release 0.24 according to the release note archive) and rarely had a damaged recording. I have no idea why your experience is so different.
[13:21:34] stuarta: this looks like a dubious topic https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4862
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[13:41:29] SteveGoodey: Yeah Bill and I talked about this. He OK'd it and I moved it into Off-Topic but I think it needs deleting as Bill said spaces were inserted to evade spam filter.
[13:42:58] stuarta: almost certainly to avoid spam filter, not to mention why are they "advertising" streams???
[13:45:04] SteveGoodey: Now deleted.
[13:46:42] SteveGoodey: I knew I should have deleted it, just needed a kick up the bum to get it done.
[13:46:53] stuarta: thanks
[13:48:54] SteveGoodey: No, thank you. :-)
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[15:18:32] peterbennett: Next up: Job Queue (Global)
[15:37:19] stuarta: what was the issue you had with the date picker?
[15:39:18] peterbennett: date-picker – when you get it from the service api it did not refresh the value on screen.
[15:39:39] stuarta: as in the inital value?
[15:39:50] peterbennett: The observable did not carryu through to the screen
[15:40:03] stuarta: it should, that's weird
[15:40:36] peterbennett: The interface is first initialized with 00:00 and defaul and then the api is supposed to overwrite that with the value from the DB
[15:40:54] peterbennett: I was still seeing the 00:00 on screen until I clicked the field
[15:41:19] peterbennett: The after clicking the field the actual value from the DB showed.
[15:41:46] peterbennett: I got around it by adding another subscriber top the getsetting
[15:42:13] stuarta: ah you need to start with an uninitialized observable and handle that in the view
[15:42:24] stuarta: rather than initializing it statically
[15:43:00] stuarta: perhaps look at the program guide as an example (as that uses a date picker too)
[15:44:16] stuarta: eg https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . onent.ts#L15
[15:44:55] stuarta: and the corresponding html file handles the fact that the observable isn't yet ready
[15:45:21] peterbennett: ok thanks
[15:46:55] peterbennett: Does your guide data picker need to get its start date from the DB?
[15:47:30] peterbennett: The date picker would be fine in my case if I didn't have to initialize it from the API.
[15:47:33] stuarta: no, but it needs the date to get the data
[15:47:53] stuarta: i'm initializing the dateformat from the translation engine, which is similar
[15:48:26] peterbennett: I see, Ok I will take a look
[15:52:14] stuarta: essentially i've had to separate out the calls for the guide data to a standalone function, which i can then call from various places in response to events, (such as ngOnInit(), translation change and date picker close)
[15:52:39] stuarta: each time, the guide then updates as appropriate
[15:53:23] peterbennett: Sound complicated
[15:53:45] stuarta: not really
[15:54:29] stuarta: pages changes are essentially event triggered
[15:55:28] stuarta: helps if you have at least a high level understanding of events in the dom
[16:00:03] stuarta: hmmm, why did i create loadData() when i could just have used fetchData()
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[16:29:29] peterbennett: So should we name observables with a $ sign ?
[16:31:41] stuarta: that's the convention yes
[16:31:47] stuarta: (from angular)
[16:36:50] peterbennett: OK I did not know that until I aw your code, I will bear that in mind
[16:40:42] stuarta[m]: And the ! Indicates it is not expected to be initialized in the constructor
[16:44:23] peterbennett: Yes the ! is something required, but the $ is just a convention.
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[18:53:10] MythHead: hampton: To be fair, there's lots of variables, most of which I've tried tweaking over the past 3 months. My HDHR/ATSC tuners are fine, the cable are not. I'm have a pair of  HDHR3-CC ( 20220203 firmware ), my provider is comcast. Ubuntu 20 LTS backends.
[18:53:46] MythHead: How did you have HDHR3's supported in 0.24? They weren't supported in 0.29, didn't function directly for me until 0.31.
[18:55:40] MythHead: (most recently I even tried attenuators, since I have a node+0 box right outside my house, and my signal is usually +0.0 to +6.0 db – I dropped the signal to -10 range, didn't make any difference)
[18:57:00] MythHead: Current recording, for example:
[18:57:01] MythHead: Signal Strength 100% (5.6 dBmV)
[18:57:01] MythHead: Signal Quality 100% (39.8 dB)
[18:57:02] MythHead: Symbol Quality 100%
[19:10:28] hampton: All I know is I bought the HDHR3–6CC in 2011 and don't remember every having problems with it. I have Verizon with a pair of CableCards in the HDHR3-CC. I have upgraded the firmware over the years, and its currently using the 20220203 release.
[19:11:00] hampton: I started live tv, and am seeing this: Signal Strength100% (1.5 dBmV) Signal Quality100% (37.1 dB) Symbol Quality100%
[19:25:28] MythHead: yeah, that's good strong signal. Anything over 0.0db is pretty strong. Over about 12db is a problem, can overload rcv's, you're in a good range.
[19:27:05] MythHead: Do you record much? We average somewhere around 15 programs a day, (auto-expires, several heavy users here)
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[19:46:51] hampton: I probably record about half that, except during the olympics when I have recordings going 24/7 on multiple channels for 3 weeks.
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[20:50:18] jpabq: gigem: I was not aware the inputgroups worked like that. Is that "automatic" with the tools in cardutil?
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[21:44:48] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: stuarta pushed 1 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/8dba . . . 7d6a554f1e51
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[22:52:06] jpabq: It looks like there is a bunch of stuff in mythtv/programs/mythbackend/servicesv2 that was just copied from V1? For example, I see v2captureCard but it does not look like it is actually wired up?
[22:54:55] jpabq: There is v2input.h, but there is no separate support of cardinput anymore, right?
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