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Thursday, February 24th, 2022, 00:00 UTC
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[10:46:32] paul-h: Looks like we may have failed to get v32 in 22.04 the s390x build failed
[10:47:17] stuarta: it should never be on that arch
[10:47:35] paul-h: We don't build for that architecture in any of the PPA's
[10:47:43] stuarta: for good reason
[10:48:23] paul-h: It may be a Ubuntu or debian restriction?
[10:48:32] stuarta: i have no idea
[10:48:49] stuarta: wonder if mario or thomas can shed some light
[10:50:25] paul-h: Thomas never replied but Mario was trying to get something sorted
[10:51:12] paul-h: I can ask him if we can drop s390x but that doesn't fix the problem for other big endian architectures
[10:51:41] stuarta: don't we build on one of the arm BE arches?
[10:52:01] paul-h: It appears to be one of Scotts cleanup commits from a month ago
[10:52:12] ** stuarta facepalms **
[10:52:51] stuarta: are all the PPA builds only on LE architectures?
[10:57:11] paul-h: For the PPA's we only build for amd64, arm64 and sometimes for armhf but for the main Ubuntu distro builds it gets built for arm64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el and s390x
[10:57:50] stuarta: is there a hard requirement for it to be on all arches? (i guess that's what you were asking earlier)
[10:58:11] paul-h: That's what I'm wondering
[10:58:46] stuarta: i recall from a long time ago packages could be excluded from certain arches, just no idea if that is still the case
[11:05:02] paul-h: I think this is the problem commit https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/9ad66156 it fails on line 1495
[11:14:58] stuarta: certainly doesn't look right, the original code is doing a bswap_dbl, and that's using a quint64 conversion
[11:18:35] paul-h: The old code did have #define bswap_dbl(x) bswap_64(x) though
[11:18:49] stuarta: oh
[11:19:05] stuarta: revert it for the moment? it's in NVR which nobody uses anyway
[11:19:28] stuarta: hopefully we can get a build in before the cutoff
[11:20:30] paul-h: I thought about doing that but have no way to do a test a build for that arch
[11:24:53] stuarta: nope, but as you say, it used to work, that the offending line and it only affects BE arches in a code path that if we are lucky has 1 user
[11:25:41] stuarta: and we make it a target for v33 that NVR goes away
[11:28:15] stuarta: unless the actual fix is removing the double casts, since bswap_dbl is actually bswap_64
[11:28:51] paul-h: Doesn't wont to cleanly revert must be some other later changes
[11:30:23] stuarta: joy
[11:32:03] stuarta: rpi is LE, so that won't help
[11:32:22] stuarta: and i really don't fancy using qemu to run an emulated s390x
[11:43:19] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: paul-h pushed 1 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/8129 . . . dd3dcfbb7b30
[11:47:46] stuarta: paul-h: fixes/32 as well??
[11:48:55] paul-h: Yeah I was just waiting to see if the master builders complete OK
[11:49:03] stuarta: wise
[12:21:18] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: paul-h pushed 1 commit(s) to branch fixes/32: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/2372 . . . 28d360e98916
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[13:56:15] hampton: Looks like the only available BE versions of Debian are mips (32 bit) and s390x (64 bit).
[13:57:03] SteveGoodey: Thanks for getting V32 released, well done.
[14:04:43] DevMythNotifyBot: issue opened by marillat, "Add ffmpeg patch for atomic detection": https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/issues/499
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[14:24:43] stuarta: interesting issue the from christian marillat
[14:24:48] stuarta: *there
[14:26:18] hampton: I've had to tweak -latomic before for one of the platforms. Maybe that would have prevented the problem.
[14:27:36] stuarta: quite possibly. he knows his stuff
[14:47:12] peterbennett: hampton: Will you apply that or would you like me to do it since it is ffmpeg? It needs to be put in the FFmpeg repo as well so it is there for the next resync.
[14:48:04] peterbennett: The MythTV/FFmpeg repo,
[14:49:21] peterbennett: Actually it will be in the next resync anyway, if it is in the main ffmpeg.
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[15:33:09] stuarta: !trout self
[15:33:09] ** MythLogBot slaps self with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **
[15:33:09] ** DevMythNotifyBot slaps self with a trout on behalf of stuarta **
[15:33:17] stuarta: :-p
[15:34:12] peterbennett: trout?
[15:34:40] stuarta: google the monty python fish slapping dance :-p
[15:34:41] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D\-< **
[15:34:42] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D|-< **
[15:34:43] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D/-< **
[15:34:44] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D|-< **
[15:35:05] stuarta: lousy. must fix that
[15:36:26] peterbennett: OK that was odd
[15:36:36] ** stuarta rofl **
[15:36:47] stuarta: classic 70's british humour
[15:36:47] peterbennett: dance
[15:36:49] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D\-< **
[15:36:50] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D|-< **
[15:36:51] ** DevMythNotifyBot dances: :D/-< **
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[15:37:08] stuarta: i can see it, but it's rubbish, this is better
[15:37:31] peterbennett: and now for something completely different ...
[15:37:37] stuarta: *\o/*
[15:37:45] stuarta: \o/*/*
[15:37:52] stuarta: *\*\o
[15:37:54] stuarta: *\o/*
[15:38:16] peterbennett: >:o
[15:40:46] peterbennett: trout Vladimir Putin
[15:41:47] stuarta: nneds the !
[15:43:16] peterbennett: trout Vladimir Putin !
[15:43:25] stuarta: before trout
[15:43:35] peterbennett: !trout Vladimir Putin
[15:43:35] ** MythLogBot slaps Vladimir with a Putin trout on behalf of peterbennett... **
[15:43:36] ** DevMythNotifyBot slaps Vladimir with a trout on behalf of peterbennett **
[15:43:55] stuarta: curious
[15:44:17] peterbennett: Not quite right
[15:44:43] stuarta: nope
[15:49:34] stuarta: never seen a Putin trout if i'm honest :-p
[15:50:45] peterbennett: !trout Putin Rainbow
[15:50:45] ** MythLogBot slaps Putin with a Rainbow trout on behalf of peterbennett... **
[15:50:45] ** DevMythNotifyBot slaps Putin with a trout on behalf of peterbennett **
[15:51:47] peterbennett: !trout Putin Greenback Cutthroat
[15:51:47] ** MythLogBot slaps Putin with a Greenback Cutthroat trout on behalf of peterbennett... **
[15:51:47] ** DevMythNotifyBot slaps Putin with a trout on behalf of peterbennett **
[15:52:07] hampton: peterbennett: Please apply the patch. aed0d8c91c can probably be removed afterwards, but would need testing.
[15:53:56] peterbennett: hampon: OK will add to master and fixes/32
[16:21:08] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: bennettpeter pushed 1 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/dd3d . . . 85d37a59152f
[16:21:08] DevMythNotifyBot: issue closed by bennettpeter, "Add ffmpeg patch for atomic detection": https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/issues/499
[16:25:55] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: bennettpeter pushed 1 commit(s) to branch fixes/32: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/28d3 . . . 56275b303bf7
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[17:04:56] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: linuxdude42 pushed 6 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/85d3 . . . aee8a0d8ac0f
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[18:09:57] paul-h: Just catching up – So the armhf builds are now failing?
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[18:40:13] stuarta: paul-h: they failed before the s390 ones
[18:40:20] stuarta: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_te . . . ld_state=all
[18:40:38] stuarta: no wait, the timestamp is later
[18:42:14] stuarta: it's the same githash, so it's clearly a "when the builder got around to it" thing
[18:45:34] paul-h: Mario did say he re-tried the armhf build because it looked initially like a temporary builder error but it appears it's not
[18:46:09] stuarta: i'm hoping that with the 2 changes that have gone it it'll sort the next build for both
[18:47:47] paul-h: I've temporarily enabled both the failing arch on the master PPA so hopefully we can get it working there first then get Mario to update and retry the official distro builds
[18:48:43] paul-h: They are currently building https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+recipe/mythtv-daily-33
[18:49:33] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: rcrdnalor pushed 1 commit(s) to branch fixes/31: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/ce31 . . . 7e4ce1ba987c
[18:50:43] paul-h: We can play about with the master PPA builds to get it working without pissing to many people off hopefully
[18:50:46] stuarta: good idea, both fixes are in master too
[18:51:21] stuarta: tbh, we should probably leave it enabled on the PPA builders. none of us have s390x hardware
[18:59:12] stuarta: back later
[19:00:38] paul-h: armhf is still failing in configure
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[19:42:47] stuarta: back
[19:43:29] stuarta: s390x still failed, but a different error this time
[19:45:52] peterbennett: Surely nobody would run MythTV on S/390.
[19:46:47] stuarta: no they wouldn't, but the build put forward to be included in 22.04, failed on s390x and armhf, neither of which we target
[19:47:42] hampton: I would like to get a big-endian builder going. (As soon as I can get my server updated.)
[19:47:55] peterbennett: Does it fail on raspberry pi? That is armhf?
[19:49:05] stuarta: no that's armv7
[19:49:31] peterbennett: oh ok
[19:50:36] stuarta: paul-h: the quickest thing might still be to get mario to exclude s390x and armhf
[19:51:39] DevMythNotifyBot: issue assigned by rcrdnalor, "TV grabber ttvdb.py fails at tvdb_api:auth": https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/issues/498
[19:51:42] DevMythNotifyBot: issue milestoned by rcrdnalor, "TV grabber ttvdb.py fails at tvdb_api:auth": https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/issues/498
[19:52:23] DevMythNotifyBot: issue labeled by rcrdnalor, "TV grabber ttvdb.py fails at tvdb_api:auth": https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/issues/498 Labels: "version:v31-fixes" "component:mythtv:metadata"
[19:52:24] DevMythNotifyBot: issue labeled by rcrdnalor, "TV grabber ttvdb.py fails at tvdb_api:auth": https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/issues/498 Labels: "version:v31-fixes" "component:mythtv:metadata"
[19:55:40] peterbennett: hmmmm: "Raspberry Pi Type 3 has 64-bit CPU, but its architecture is not arm64 but armhf." from stack overflow
[19:55:53] peterbennett: armhf stands for "arm hard float", and is the name given to a debian port for arm processors (armv7+) that have hardware floating point support.
[19:56:37] stuarta: yes, so a slight difference.
[19:56:47] stuarta: the armhf build was a different issue to the s390x
[19:57:10] ** peterbennett Fires up the raspberry pi **
[19:58:03] stuarta: i took my out of the build network. decided not to leave it running full time anymore. it's done 2+ years
[19:59:17] peterbennett: dpkg --print-architecture
[19:59:17] peterbennett: armhf
[19:59:47] peterbennett: uname -a
[19:59:48] peterbennett: Linux tardis 5.10.63-v7+ #1496 SMP Wed Dec 1 15:58:11 GMT 2021 armv7l GNU/Linux
[19:59:48] ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1496 **
[20:00:58] stuarta: sweet. be interesting to see if it builds
[20:01:14] peterbennett: I'll let you know in a few hours
[20:01:23] stuarta: that's the downside of the rpi
[20:02:00] peterbennett: It should be possible to cross-compile on a pc but I never figured that out.
[20:02:17] peterbennett: android cross compile takes only a few minutes
[20:03:27] stuarta: that would be nice if it could be done
[20:03:54] stuarta: i tried emulating arm with qemu once. the cpu speed was set to something ridiculously low
[20:04:02] stuarta: so it took forever
[20:04:20] peterbennett: LVR was cross-compiling but he was building qt s well with some patches of his own
[20:05:47] peterbennett: I will build fixes/32 and see what happens
[20:06:31] peterbennett: I have a raspberry pi 3, I want to get the latest 4 but they are unavailable.
[20:09:01] paul-h: I asked Mario last night could we remove s390x and he said "s390x is on for all packages, it will block migration for anything."
[20:12:36] paul-h: The armhf build never gets to the build part it's failing in configure
[20:12:56] peterbennett: My rapsberry pi build got past configure fine
[20:13:06] peterbennett: If is in the make now
[20:13:13] peterbennett: it is in the make now
[20:21:42] peterbennett: There is an IBM Z14 on sale on ebay for $250,000. That would do for testing the s390x build.
[20:22:14] hampton: I'll chip in $2.50. ;-)
[20:23:48] peterbennett: It says "or best offer, free shipping".
[20:25:05] stuarta: bet that thing weighs a ton
[20:25:29] peterbennett: No returns, pay with VISA or Mastercard. How many people have a $250,000 credit limit?
[20:26:45] ** stuarta rofl **
[20:27:19] peterbennett: Condition:--“Refurbished – IBM Banded”
[20:29:16] peterbennett: It looks about the size of a refrigerator
[20:34:08] stuarta: probably a full rack
[20:36:33] ulmus-scott: z12, a little older but more reasonable price https://www.ebay.com/itm/313146096757
[20:37:04] ulmus-scott: looks like its deeper than a normal refrigerator
[20:37:25] stuarta: yeah, they are a full size rack typically found in datacentres
[20:38:49] peterbennett: I have a credit card that could buy that one.
[20:41:15] stuarta: i'd rather buy this for that amount of money -> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284377120553
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[20:49:20] ulmus-scott: The armhf build can't create an executable file:
[20:49:20] ulmus-scott: #### FFmpeg CONFIGURATION ####
[20:49:21] ulmus-scott: ccache gcc is unable to create an executable file.
[20:49:21] ulmus-scott: If ccache gcc is a cross-compiler, use the --enable-cross-compile option.
[20:49:22] ulmus-scott: Only do this if you know what cross compiling means.
[20:49:22] ulmus-scott: C compiler test failed.
[20:49:49] peterbennett: ccache works on my system
[20:50:25] stuarta: ulmus-scott: the question is why? we would need config.ep from a failed build to understand
[20:50:37] peterbennett: it is in the build. It caches build results to save time
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[20:51:05] peterbennett: Perhaps some missing dependency. Perhaps ccache is not installed
[20:51:31] stuarta: it'll work without it (well it should)
[20:51:44] stuarta: it's just damn slow on repeated builds
[20:51:45] peterbennett: Especially on raspberry pi, ccache is very useful. Rebuilds take minutes instead of hours
[20:53:49] ulmus-scott: Unrelated to the failure, but the packaging script needs updating: it is looking for VERSION which is now SRC_VERSION.
[20:54:18] ulmus-scott: The log https://launchpadlibrarian.net/587706681/buil . . . LDING.txt.gz shows ccache is installed.
[20:55:21] ulmus-scott: Since it seems to be a clean environment for each build, using ccache doesn't do anything.
[20:56:01] stuarta: nope. just one less potential difference
[20:58:26] ulmus-scott: s390x error is: /usr/bin/ld: ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-33.so: undefined reference to `unsigned long qbswap<unsigned long>(unsigned long)'
[20:58:59] peterbennett: The configure attempts to build a simple program int main(void){ return 0; }
[20:59:22] peterbennett: If it fails then t gives that message.
[20:59:37] stuarta: certainly not a sophisticated test
[21:00:24] peterbennett: Perhaps ccache needs some initialization or its default directory is unavailable
[21:01:30] peterbennett: By default it uses a directory $HOME/.ccache
[21:01:55] peterbennett: Maybe they are building without a home directory .. is that possible?
[21:06:12] peterbennett: You can setup a different directory for ccache via a command
[21:13:52] stuarta: if you have no home dir then the shell defaults to '/' and all the usual permissions apply, so you would get permission denied writing out files
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[22:33:37] peterbennett: Change it this way export CCACHE_DIR=$HOME/.ccache
[22:33:56] peterbennett: e.g. export CCACHE_DIR=/tmp/.ccache
[22:35:29] peterbennett: or disable with configure --disable-ccache
[22:37:05] stuarta: but is that even the problem?
[22:37:59] peterbennett: don't know – just know that something went wrong with "ccache gcc"
[22:38:34] peterbennett: disabling it is more likely to solve t than setting the directory
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[22:43:45] paul-h: I think we are pissing up a sloping plank on this one – time to throw in the towel
[22:44:49] peterbennett: My raspberry pi build is still going
[22:49:11] paul-h: Do you have Ubuntu on the pi?
[22:49:23] peterbennett: No it is debian
[22:50:28] peterbennett: What is Mario's role – can he debug it, try disable ccache and see if that resolves it?
[22:51:01] paul-h: The is the old MythBuntu administrator
[22:51:08] paul-h: or one of them
[22:51:56] paul-h: We have very limited access to the LaunchPad builders they are all automated and a lot is out of our control
[22:52:44] peterbennett: I think Thomas Mashos used to be more involved in fixing and setting up the packaging.
[22:52:58] paul-h: If we could see the ep.log or whatever it's called we could see what the problem is but we can't
[22:53:31] paul-h: I've already emailed him he didn't reply so not sure what happened to him
[22:56:22] paul-h: config.ep is what I was thinking of
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[23:10:30] paul-h: Even though the error mentions ccache I think it is a red herring it's much more likely to be a linking problem
[23:15:31] paul-h: Just watched the new Billy Connolly program on Gold – what a legend :)
[23:20:13] paul-h: No one have any further ideas how to fix the two problem builders? I'm out of idea and ready to throw in the towel
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