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Monday, July 26th, 2021, 00:11 UTC
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[14:03:43] peterbennett: stuarta: The old upnphttp returns content-length on a HEAD request, the new one assumes chunked encoding and does not
[14:04:20] stuarta: that in itself should not trigger auto download surely??
[14:04:25] peterbennett: stuarta: I can get the content-length by using http1.0 on the new server. to suppress chunking.
[14:04:51] peterbennett: So which is the correct behaviour ?
[14:05:12] peterbennett: No the download is fine I fixed it
[14:05:30] peterbennett: I am on to the next subject, getting the length of a download file using HEAD
[14:06:06] peterbennett: leanfront uses HEAD to get the length of a download before starting
[14:06:48] stuarta: iirc, http 1.1 requires chunking support
[14:06:56] stuarta: 1.0 i don't believe so
[14:07:16] stuarta: i think the default is to "guess" http 1.1 support
[14:07:21] stuarta: which may or may not be correct
[14:07:27] stuarta: but is irrelevant to the length
[14:07:38] peterbennett: Right, but IMHO chunking should only be used if you have an unknown length, with a file you have a known lonegth
[14:08:09] stuarta: chunking is also good for downloading big files, and the ability to resume iirc
[14:08:13] peterbennett: a file download should not use chunking ?
[14:11:31] stuarta: dunno, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunked_transfer_encoding seems to think it's for streaming
[14:11:36] stuarta: gotta step out for a bit
[14:11:38] peterbennett: New code seems to do chunking for over 100K
[14:54:41] peterbennett: HEAD gives the correct length if you specify --range 0-
[14:55:00] peterbennett: Perhaps range overrides chunking
[14:56:46] peterbennett: In my experience, chunking is useful if you have dynamic content and you don't know what the final length will be when you start sending
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[15:05:05] stuarta: peterbennett: reading that wikipedia link the primary use case is streaming
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[15:09:23] stuarta: peterbennett: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7230#section-3.3.2 also makes interesting reading for when a content length header should or should not be included
[15:09:27] peterbennett: stuarta: I think it is OK, the HEAD return is different from the old server., but I suppose is valid
[15:09:41] stuarta: "A sender MUST NOT send a Content-Length header field in any message that contains a Transfer-Encoding header field.
[15:09:44] stuarta: "
[15:09:50] peterbennett: Right
[15:09:59] stuarta: http 1.1 includes chunking, and therefore would have a TE header
[15:10:13] stuarta: so if you don't want chunking, use http 1.0
[15:11:04] peterbennett: It seems specifying --range 0- (i.e. entire file) also works to turn off chunking
[15:11:30] stuarta: which ever works best for you
[15:12:04] stuarta: although i can see how chunking would help to support seeking
[15:16:00] peterbennett: I guess ranges are a more precise method of getting specific parts
[15:16:09] stuarta: exactly what they are for
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[18:54:36] stuarta: hmmm polaris isn't getting an ip address on it's network
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[19:10:21] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: kmdewaal pushed 1 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/213a . . . c4c78870ea9d
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[19:22:07] stuarta: fyi, because of polaris not getting an ip address, themes is offline. i've raised a ticket with osuosl
[19:38:11] DevMythNotifyBot: COMMIT: kmdewaal pushed 1 commit(s) to branch master: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/c4c7 . . . d63398aafbe6
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