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| [08:09:15] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [17:12:53] | hampton: | good afternoon |
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| [19:06:00] | jpabq: | I take it we are sticking with freenode? At least for now? |
| [19:32:09] | stuarta: | for the moment, nobody seemed too bothered when i asked before |
| [19:32:50] | stuarta: | and then there is the question over libera chat vs oftc |
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| [20:15:04] | stuarta: | jpabq: did you end up finding the web port on the backend for the webserver under development? |
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| [20:33:52] | jpabq: | stuarta: Yes, port 6744 works to show the Hello World. I have not spent much time on it yet, though. |
| [20:34:32] | stuarta: | np, just wanted to make sure you could at least see it's working |
| [20:36:57] | jpabq: | 8081 / 8091 do not seem to do anything — at least from a browser. |
| [20:37:07] | stuarta: | they are frontend ports |
| [20:37:16] | stuarta: | you will only see them when the frontend is running |
| [20:38:12] | stuarta: | there isn't (and never was) much there. a basic status page, and an on screen remote |
| [20:38:20] | jpabq: | Ah! Indeed. |
| [20:38:54] | stuarta: | which is what made it a good point to start the conversion from :) |
| [20:39:03] | stuarta: | which i now want to rewrite |
| [20:39:04] | stuarta: | again |
| [20:39:08] | stuarta: | oh well |
| [20:39:59] | jpabq: | stuarta: so, to be clear, the plan is to replace the :6544 interface with new Services API code? |
| [20:40:23] | stuarta: | tl;dr -> yes |
| [20:40:26] | stuarta: | longer version |
| [20:40:57] | stuarta: | we need to replicate the current api end points (maintaining API compatibility) under the new webserver infra |
| [20:41:27] | stuarta: | removing all usage of QtScript / QtScriptEngine |
| [20:41:47] | stuarta: | that's phase 1 |
| [20:42:07] | stuarta: | in parallel we can start work on a replacement to mythfrontend |
| [20:42:31] | stuarta: | at some point, we run out of existing API with which to replicate the existing webfrontend |
| [20:42:36] | stuarta: | which brings us to phase 2 |
| [20:42:50] | peterbennett: | Is there a separate web server for API from the web interface to backend? |
| [20:43:09] | stuarta: | where we have to extend the API, to provide information that previously made internal use of QtScript |
| [20:43:25] | stuarta: | peterbennett: no, it's all intertwined |
| [20:43:50] | peterbennett: | I can help out with this, but I have not been much involved to now |
| [20:44:01] | stuarta: | sure |
| [20:44:23] | peterbennett: | Also I have a vested interest – my leanfront uses the API exclusivley. |
| [20:44:49] | stuarta: | peterbennett: you'll need a copy of devel/http, the "new" code lives on <backend_port> + 200 = 6744 (by default) |
| [20:45:00] | stuarta: | right now, there are no api endpoints |
| [20:45:09] | stuarta: | but these we need to start adding |
| [20:45:31] | jpabq: | We are switching to QJEngine, I assume? |
| [20:45:43] | stuarta: | no, no engine at all, pure API calls |
| [20:46:09] | jpabq: | That is what markk started on? Or was he building on your work? |
| [20:46:14] | peterbennett: | So what is running on 6744 now? Is the web interface to mythbackend there? |
| [20:46:18] | stuarta: | the webfrontend however, makes heavy use of QtScript |
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| [20:46:32] | stuarta: | peterbennett: a "hello world" to prove it's working |
| [20:47:11] | stuarta: | where it all gets "funky" is certain URL's belong to the Services API, and certain URL's belong to the webfrontend |
| [20:47:35] | stuarta: | oh and there is a whole bunch more related to SSDP/UPnP |
| [20:47:53] | peterbennett: | The current API has a lot of magic that takes the class you have defined for an API an magically transforms the result into xml or jsno. |
| [20:48:02] | peterbennett: | Do we need to replace all that? |
| [20:48:12] | stuarta: | which is currently like a siamese twin with the existing http code |
| [20:48:15] | peterbennett: | s/jsno/json/ |
| [20:48:58] | stuarta: | peterbennett: the new webserver does that stuff automatically too |
| [20:49:10] | stuarta: | what is unfinished, is the auto wsdl generation |
| [20:50:18] | peterbennett: | Is the auto wsdl done with some prepackaged code ? There must be something available. |
| [20:50:29] | stuarta: | this is an example of how to hook an API url endpoint into the webserver -> https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/0f833 . . . ffececedf1d9 |
| [20:50:47] | stuarta: | peterbennett: it was previously done with magic |
| [20:51:11] | stuarta: | it partly works, but isn't identical to what was being generated before (hence unfinished) |
| [20:52:41] | stuarta: | here is where we instantiate the actual "new" webserver, and hook up "hello world" -> https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/9e733 . . . 6f0fb331cef7 |
| [20:53:13] | peterbennett: | OK I will build the devel/http and take a look at those |
| [20:53:38] | stuarta: | peterbennett: i'd recommend starting with any API endpoint other than /Status |
| [20:53:53] | stuarta: | it pre dates the services API code, and hand cranks every single bit of output |
| [20:53:56] | peterbennett: | What does the actual web server? Is there a qt component for that? |
| [20:54:14] | stuarta: | code markk wrote, using pure Qt |
| [20:54:39] | stuarta: | it's here -> https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tree/devel/h . . . ythbase/http |
| [20:55:17] | peterbennett: | I hope it caters for incremental downloads, Those work really well with the current backend for leanfront playback and skipping back and forward |
| [20:55:25] | stuarta: | and the resulting server is very nice AFAICT |
| [20:55:50] | stuarta: | well it does have http range support :) |
| [20:56:06] | peterbennett: | OK that should do it. |
| [20:56:42] | stuarta: | original commit of the new code has a decent comment -> https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/c26ad . . . 8a448d223308 |
| [20:57:07] | stuarta: | also pretty much summarizes what i said above |
| [20:58:37] | peterbennett: | How do I make sure what I am doing is not clashing with somebody else? |
| [20:58:50] | stuarta: | talk :) |
| [20:59:19] | stuarta: | so far the only people who have thought about it, is you and jpabq and that started yesterday |
| [20:59:29] | peterbennett: | right |
| [20:59:46] | stuarta: | prior to that it's been me deep down investigating the surgical separation of http & upnp code |
| [21:01:06] | stuarta: | if you take a look at the commit which "converts" the frontend code, and compare the class to the old service API version of the class, you'll see there isn't a huge amount of changes required to make it work |
| [21:01:23] | stuarta: | although you will have to copy it to a new file, otherwise the build will break |
| [21:02:31] | ** stuarta checks and finds skeletons of auto {wsdl,xsd} generation ** | |
| [21:03:25] | stuarta: | peterbennett: btw. i find the new webserver code significantly faster than the old code |
| [21:03:46] | peterbennett: | Good |
| [21:03:49] | stuarta: | :) |
| [21:04:29] | stuarta: | btw. some of the stuff that needs to go into phase 2 (API extension), is stuff to support everything setup does (eg scanning, config etc) |
| [21:04:48] | stuarta: | some of the config stuff is there already in existing API's |
| [21:04:58] | stuarta: | but there is plenty missing |
| [21:05:08] | stuarta: | scanning is a non existant concept in the API |
| [21:05:10] | peterbennett: | So does the web frontend use the api? |
| [21:05:19] | stuarta: | so this is where it gets interesting |
| [21:05:44] | stuarta: | currently the webfrontend is tightly couple to internal QtScript based classes |
| [21:05:54] | peterbennett: | Ideal would be for frontend to use the api and not access the database |
| [21:05:59] | stuarta: | correct |
| [21:06:05] | peterbennett: | This is my model for leanfront |
| [21:06:39] | stuarta: | the "target" configuration is that the API is able to do everything (with authorization as appropriate), and the webfrontend is just a "web app" shipped by the backend |
| [21:07:30] | stuarta: | ie. the current "hello world" evolves to the replacement of the webfrontend, which exclusively uses API calls to do its work |
| [21:08:22] | stuarta: | tbh, leanfront would be a damn good API tester :) |
| [21:09:02] | peterbennett: | On another subject, I have an external recorder script that successfully records from hdmi using a usb-hdmi device that cost around $6 |
| [21:09:16] | stuarta: | \o/ |
| [21:09:20] | peterbennett: | My real difficulty with t is getting the channel tuned |
| [21:09:42] | stuarta: | you are delving back into the past whilst simultaneously going forwards |
| [21:10:05] | stuarta: | that's what all the channel changing scripts and stuff used to be fore |
| [21:10:18] | stuarta: | IR blasters to the cable box to change the channel |
| [21:10:26] | stuarta: | that sort of thing |
| [21:10:42] | peterbennett: | I have comcast and cable-card with ceton device. The ceton is no longer manufactured and cable card seems to be fading out. |
| [21:11:46] | peterbennett: | I do not have a cable box but comcast has an android app for fire tv that does everything the cable box does. |
| [21:12:19] | stuarta: | cool |
| [21:12:36] | peterbennett: | Unfortunately it does not accept keyboard input, only up/down scrolling with several hundred channels |
| [21:12:54] | stuarta: | i'm hoping to get back to some coding in a few weeks, been flat out studying for exams |
| [21:13:36] | peterbennett: | Good luck with that. |
| [21:14:06] | stuarta: | it's on thu and i've only just about finished the course material :( |
| [21:14:18] | peterbennett: | Which exam is that? |
| [21:14:22] | stuarta: | RHCE |
| [21:14:47] | stuarta: | 294 iirc – automation with ansible |
| [21:17:22] | peterbennett: | I worked for Pegasystems and I had to do their certification exams – System architect, Senior systems architect and Lead systems Architect |
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