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| [02:21:17] | hampton: | warpme_: I agree that Mark was crucial for the video codec work. I am comfortable with code cleanup and GUI work and can figure out a lot of the other stuff, but I don't know the first thing about audio and video codecs. |
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| [09:48:15] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [14:22:55] | paul-h: | stuarta: you've got mail |
| [15:13:03] | stuarta: | paul-h: cool, saw it had come in, but not looked yet. today is my ridiculous meeting day |
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| [15:25:54] | gigem: | Regarding Mark Kendall, I reached out to him by email last week after noticing the tiff on IRC. He didn't reply. I hope he comes back as his work on the frontend and elsewhere is greatly appreciated by me and I'm sure others. |
| [15:28:26] | stuarta: | fingers crossed |
| [15:35:26] | warpme_: | gigem, et al: maybe markk is simply on holidays? |
| [15:37:11] | stuarta: | said he'd had enough on irc and we haven't seen him since |
| [15:37:14] | ** stuarta shrugs ** | |
| [15:46:49] | gigem: | I know he's annoyed by leanfront but that reference on irc didn't seem that egregious. I wonder if something else has been bothering him and that just set him off. |
| [15:48:52] | warpme_: | gigem: for sure one of important factors is rpi approach to foss (and general rpi sw. quality status). |
| [15:49:05] | warpme_: | is->was |
| [15:49:34] | warpme_: | indeed: rpi has lion share on embeeded and on sw. support is NIGHTMARE |
| [15:49:48] | stuarta: | gigem: i suspect a sequence of little things, not once specific thing |
| [15:50:24] | warpme_: | for sure. also i think he was a bit alone with sooo huge project/task |
| [15:51:43] | stuarta: | well he also did multiple things concurrently. like whipped up a new http server, which i now need to work with on backend setup / api etc |
| [15:52:39] | stuarta: | started working out how to graft in a "am i configured" state machine |
| [15:53:03] | warpme_: | yes. i noticed this and infact i was expecting some sort of burnout :-( |
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| [15:53:30] | stuarta: | found weird shit like mythcontext uses mythupnp code to load it's configuration |
| [15:55:09] | peterbennett: | I have not been following all he was doing, and I left the frontend to him since he rejoined, since he was screaming ahead with so much stuff. |
| [15:55:49] | stuarta: | indeed |
| [15:56:07] | peterbennett: | Unfortunately OpenGL is still beyong my understanding. |
| [15:57:14] | stuarta: | i found writing triangle examples (aka opengl's hello world) quite illuminating |
| [15:57:33] | stuarta: | but that's an awful long way from the complexity of the stuff mark was doing |
| [15:58:04] | peterbennett: | I did the basic stuff, but it is tiny baby steps compared to most of what we have |
| [15:58:34] | stuarta: | agreed |
| [16:00:03] | peterbennett: | I would like to use canned code where possible, rather than all the low-level stuff, for example use the VLC api for playback, and some sort of framework for OpenGL. |
| [16:00:24] | stuarta: | apart from vlc, that is what was happening |
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| [16:00:43] | warpme_: | what is most depressing me is that most difficult/advanced things like i.e. DRM planes in Qt are already working really well. infact current state is relly good for v1.0. imho there is single issue holding pre-release: seek in h264. mpeg2/vp8/vp9/hevc are working perfectly all modes all renderers. only h264 is non-working and only in drm. But h264 is 99% of content so for embeeded we are dead. Ehh – it is like: i see |
| [16:00:43] | warpme_: | finish line on hand distance but can't move forward..... |
| [16:01:47] | peterbennett: | Seek in h264 not working? |
| [16:02:38] | peterbennett: | I would like to get rid of the seek table and use something standard, like mkv for our files for example, that has built in seek tables. |
| [16:02:56] | warpme_: | in v4l2_request. in v4l2_m2m works barely. |
| [16:03:13] | stuarta: | peterbennett: thing is mkv is really only relevant if you transcode everything |
| [16:03:29] | stuarta: | these days as most stuff is digital, there isn't really a need to transcode |
| [16:03:54] | stuarta: | haven't done it for probably 10 years |
| [16:04:04] | stuarta: | apart from "lossless" to cut out ad breaks |
| [16:04:22] | stuarta: | which we have never implemented for h264 or other similar advanced codecs |
| [16:04:23] | peterbennett: | stuarta: I have used a user job that converts the ts file to mkv, takes a few seconds. |
| [16:04:35] | stuarta: | fair enough |
| [16:05:29] | peterbennett: | If you have used the program OBS, it records real-time into an mkv file, that you can watch with VLC while it is recording. |
| [16:05:59] | warpme_: | peterbennett: Isn't that having seek table gives us instant seek which is fe differentiator over other players? anyway: myth seek really differentiates for me over other players accordingly to my tests... |
| [16:07:10] | peterbennett: | warpme_: You are right, but I don't mind waiting 1 second for a seek to complete. |
| [16:13:14] | warpme_: | i would say: in myth player there is many such aspects which — when summed – giving killer app (even looking on it only as player). added whole myth concept – still best sol.on market (for me). I would say: tmho we are underestimating potential of myth solution.... |
| [16:32:38] | paul-h: | I'm trying to check/update the radio stream database and when checking many websites I am getting many access denied Error 1020 errors – all from sites using using Cloudflare |
| [16:32:51] | paul-h: | Amyone know what that's all about |
| [16:33:14] | paul-h: | Like this one – http://kink.fm/ |
| [16:34:04] | stuarta: | https://community.cloudflare.com/t/error-1020-help-me/209008 |
| [16:34:41] | paul-h: | Could it be because I'm in the UK and all the failing sites are for USA radio streams? |
| [16:34:53] | stuarta: | possible |
| [16:35:08] | stuarta: | basically it's a firewall denial |
| [16:35:31] | stuarta: | https://community.cloudflare.com/t/community- . . . denied/66439 |
| [16:35:36] | stuarta: | that one is a bit more informative |
| [16:46:33] | paul-h: | OK thanks – don't know why they are blocking me from their websites I can understand they may have to block users to the radio stream from outside the USA but you'd think they would allow access to the website |
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| [17:32:20] | gigem: | peterbennett: 1 second seeks would be a deal breaker for me. I routinely do hundreds of short seeks during sports events. |
| [19:07:23] | markspieth: | i like fast seeks too for similar reasons. leanfront not so good at this. |
| [19:24:13] | gigem: | For clarity, I am in no way opposed to using formats that can embed seek tables. If the recorders could read TS and rewrite to MKV with seek tables on the fly without transcoding, that could be neat. However, mythfrontend must maintain the ability to do fast seeks and real ff/rew. |
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| [21:11:33] | stuarta: | separating the webserver/api parts from upnp is like separating conjoined twins |
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