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Tuesday, January 15th, 2019, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:05] gigem: jpabq: I'm curious too. I've been wanting to do my own theme for some time. I've tweaked my own copy of Blue Abstract to adjust the few things most important to me but would like to go much further. Every time I look at the details of doing an entire theme, though, it's so daunting that I push it back down my TODO list.
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[09:25:04] MythBuild: Build master-ubuntu-18_10–64bit #8 is complete: Failure [failed 'make install' (failure)] – https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/#builders/75/builds/8
[09:25:04] ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8 **
[09:25:07] MythBuild: Build cppcheck-master #63 is complete: Failure [update (failure)] – https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/#builders/40/builds/63
[09:25:07] ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/63 **
[09:36:19] stuarta: sigh. ENOSPACE
[09:41:10] stuarta: \o/ clear out old buildslave work dir
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[10:07:54] MythBuild: Build cppcheck-master #64 is complete: Success [build successful] – https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/#builders/40/builds/64
[10:07:54] ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/64 **
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[11:10:54] stuarta: is the gallery plugin deprecated or not?
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[11:29:43] stuarta: hmmm, we pass --enable-all to the plugins configure, which enables even deprecated plugins such as mythgallery
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[13:26:14] dizygotheca: stuarta: mythgallery still works and never got officially deprecated
[13:26:56] dizygotheca: stuarta: I suspect it will blow up when markK removes QtOpenGL.
[13:28:03] dizygotheca: stuarta: So you may want to disable it on his build, unless we want to see what fails
[13:28:32] dizygotheca: stuarta: Maybe it should be deprecated in v30 release notes ?
[13:31:36] stuarta: dizygotheca: it's already blown up on all of the build workers
[13:31:44] stuarta: (for mark's branch)
[13:33:20] stuarta: not to mention the opengl code in it makes some huge assumptions which haven't been valid for a while
[13:33:37] stuarta: (or are only valid under specific conditions)
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[13:43:12] dizygotheca: stuarta: Oh yeah! That's not OpenGL though, more MythDialogs. He removed some other really old stuff as well.
[13:43:44] stuarta: yes that's where it's blown up this time
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[19:57:50] gigem: Do we have any NFS (or Samba) experts in the house? Due to a disk space shortage, I've been forced to move some long-term recordings to an "Archive" storage group mounted via NFS onto my master backend. I'm getting hit by occasional deadlocks due to a stat call hanging when the backend queries storage group free space when the NFS server is stuck. This is despite using "soft" in the mount options. I
[19:57:52] gigem: suspect I need to also use very, low values for "timeo" and "retrans". Can anyone recommend good values for those and any other options I should use?
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[20:10:32] mark____: stuarta: did I break everything?
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[20:53:41] peterbennett: gigem: NFS just hangs if the server cannot be contacted. In my experience it will hang forever and I have not found any way out of that.
[20:56:00] peterbennett: gigem: markspieth: Android build on fixes/30 fails with "libmythbase-30.0.so does not exist". The file is actually called libmythbase-30.so and is there. Not sure where this goes wrong. If nobody is looking at it I will comb through the script to try figure it out.
[20:57:10] jheizer: mount
[20:57:18] jheizer: bah, wrong window
[20:59:34] gigem: peterbennett: That's been my experience with NFS as well. Does Samba perform any better?
[21:00:26] gigem: peterbennett: I've not yet tried to build Android with fixes/30, only master. Search for any hardcoded "30" in mythbuild.sh first.
[21:00:41] peterbennett: Samba performs better but file permissions links and other things do not work well
[21:01:44] peterbennett: gigem: I think it is the export MYTHLIBVERSION=${SOURCE_VERSION%%-*} and export MYTHLIBVERSION=${MYTHLIBVERSION#v}
[21:02:07] gigem: That shouldn't be a big problem. I just need mythbackend to be able to read the files from a server that occasionally hangs.
[21:02:29] peterbennett: SOURCE_VERSION is now V30.0 where before it was pre-30 or something
[21:03:16] peterbennett: Umm – reading from a server that is hung never works well :)
[21:03:59] gigem: peterbennett: Sounds likely. Try removing .* from the end.
[21:04:06] peterbennett: NFS hangs if your server has been shut down or suspended but Samba is a little more intelligent and returns an error
[21:04:29] peterbennett: gigem: Yes I will try changing that.
[21:05:42] gigem: In this case the server is hung and won't respond to ping. I'm not physically there so I can't check the specific error.
[21:05:58] peterbennett: gigem: yesy it is landing up with MYTHLIBVERSION as 30.0
[21:07:32] gigem: stuarta: ^^^ Perhaps we should have called the release 30.0 to be consistent whenever release 30.1, 30.2, ...
[21:08:34] peterbennett: Do the libs get renamed for each minor release?
[21:09:40] peterbennett: It looks like for 29 they were not renamed for monir releases
[21:11:38] gigem: I thought they were renamed.
[21:11:47] markspieth: peterbennett: I havent seen this but have only built from master so far. Still working on fontconfig and have that building. Currently a bit time poor but getting there.
[21:13:15] markspieth: gigem: are you using async mount option? Also I still use frontend nfs mountng of the backend so it can find recordings locally. Seek performance is better.
[21:16:03] markspieth: Now myth wont build because of a mix of static and shared libs.
[21:16:42] markspieth: gigem: Also I use UDP nfs as it doesnt block on bad tcp reads (which shouldnt happen locally)
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[21:20:07] jpabq: peterbennett: sphery: When you get a chance, would you do me a favor and look over the new Steppes-large theme? Let me know if you spot any issues ore have any suggestions.
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[21:31:59] stuarta: gigem: i did tag the release as 30.0
[21:32:51] stuarta: mark____: there's is much obsolete code in mythgallery which fell apart after your changes, i will not however say you broke it. it was pretty crappy and barely worked before
[21:33:08] stuarta: gigem: use NFSv4 if at all possible
[21:33:37] stuarta: gigem: your other option is iscsi luns
[21:35:30] stuarta: peterbennett: did you get your head around using Qt as the interface to the windowing system rather than needing glut/glew with NVDEC ?
[21:37:46] peterbennett: stuarta: I won't need the glut and glew – those are used to create the window and such. I just need to lift the code that moves the frame from the GPU to OpenGL
[21:37:47] stuarta: didn't think you would
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[21:58:53] peterbennett: gigem: markspieth: That fixed it. After doing one more build I will commit the fix.
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[22:12:47] peterbennett: gigem: Steppes-large looks good. I should try it on my small screen TV where I am using MythCenter at the moment because the fonts are too small
[22:14:11] gigem: markspieth, stuarta: async doesn't look relevant to me. The mount is rw but write should almost never occur. I don't like mounting on every client — too much work when something changes. Almost all of my frontends are now Shield which would also mean using Samba (I don't think the Shield does NFS). UDP is in my new, mount options to try tonight. This was with NFSv4.
[22:14:51] gigem: jpabq: Steppes-large? Is that with "large" fonts? If so, I'll definitely be checking it out.
[22:21:21] jpabq: gigem: Yes, it is a version with 25% larger fonts. It is Steppes but with a new layout to accommodate the extra room needed.
[22:22:49] gigem: jpabq: Sounds cool.
[22:23:16] peterbennett: jpabq: I see the osd-nav is still small. You could let it use the default osd-nav which is bigger but is on 3 pages.
[22:24:54] jpabq: peterbennett: osd-nav is small? Could you elaborate? I am not sure what you mean.
[22:26:08] jpabq: If you are just talking about (I)nfo, then the fonts I am using are larger than mythcenter-wide.
[22:26:38] gigem: One more thing about my NFS issue. I never felt real comfortable with all the filesystem checking Chris Pinkham added long, long ago to decide where to put a recording right before it starts. The data should be polled in a separate thread and the most recently cached version used by the Scheduler.
[22:29:22] gigem: jpabq: Do you have a new preview image? The ones for Steppes-large and Steppes on github look the same.
[22:29:25] stuarta: todo_list++
[22:29:35] jpabq: gigem: yes, I do.
[22:29:42] gigem: stuarta: Yep.
[22:29:55] stuarta: only ever seems to grow :-/
[22:30:11] ** stuarta is playing with redmine as a potential replacement for trac **
[22:30:42] gigem: stuarta: I started a new list for v31. It's already too big! :(
[22:30:50] stuarta: hahaha
[22:31:06] stuarta: i'm trying to confine my list to infrastructure bits
[22:31:24] jpabq: gigem: peterbennett do you have a suggestion for which "window" to use for the preview image?
[22:31:55] gigem: jpabq: I've personally always liked Watch Recordings since that's where I spend the most time.
[22:32:09] peterbennett: jpabq: Assign enter key to OSDNAVIGATION in playback context. This displays a row of icons for fast forward jump pause etc.
[22:33:10] peterbennett: jpabq: I think the same window as the preview of steppes, so people can see the difference with the large fonts
[22:33:57] ** stuarta waits for a build to hit to see if the new heatsink for the nvme drive will help **
[22:36:41] jpabq: peterbennett: oh, right. I completely forgot about that OSD window — obviously.
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