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[08:36:26] stuarta: morning all
[08:36:46] ** stuarta decides to upgrade main backend system to 18.04.01 "just because" **
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[09:09:19] ijc: stuarta: morning! hampton says you can help with the creation of wiki accounts? Please could you add "ijc" associated with "ijc@hellion.org.uk ", thanks!
[09:10:09] stuarta: ijc: ah, i can enable, allow you to create, then disable again
[09:10:28] ijc: works for me, I've got a moment now to do that.
[09:10:36] ** ijc curses spammers under his breath for a bit. **
[09:11:25] stuarta: ijc: reload the main page, and you should have a create account option
[09:11:29] stuarta: lemme know when you are done
[09:11:37] ijc: on it
[09:12:13] ijc: I'm in, thanks!
[09:12:47] stuarta: and disable again
[09:12:59] stuarta: hampton: when you are awake again, ping me and i'll tell you how to do that
[09:15:09] ijc: Back when I was involved with the Xen project we had our wiki configured so that only users in a certain group could edit pages, and admins would add non-spam people to the magic group upon request (adding was just editing a special wiki page IIRC).
[09:15:10] ijc: It meant that the spammers could create an account but wouldn't be able to edit anything. It was slightly less manual faff than enabling/disabling logins, downside is you still end up with bogus accounts (I believe there is a tool to nuke accounts with no edits after a certain time though).
[09:15:10] ijc: Just an FYI, feel free to ignore ;-)
[09:15:45] stuarta: i'll keep it in mind
[09:16:02] stuarta: for now, this works as the majority of people who contribute already have accounts
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[12:34:06] peterbennett: stuarta: Welcome back :)
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[12:36:02] peterbennett: ijc: Thanks for the feedback, I will be cleaning up the code. If you see any more typos please let me know.
[12:36:13] ijc: np and will do!
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[12:43:03] stuarta: peterbennett: thanks!
[12:46:26] Steve-Goodey: stuarta: You can't have been away, nothing fell over.
[12:47:52] stuarta: :-p
[12:48:09] stuarta: there is hope for the infrastructure then
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[12:54:58] stuarta: peterbennett: is there even a reason to force sw decode with the new vaapi implementation? either it supports and and returns the relevant bits to use, or it fails to init on that stream. please correct me if i'm wrong here
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[13:07:27] peterbennett: stuarta: What is the context of your question? force sw decode?
[13:08:16] peterbennett: stuarta: If there is a stream that is not supported with vaapi2 then it should revert to s/w deocidng.
[13:08:25] peterbennett: decoding
[13:08:48] stuarta: the "this is nonsense" comment in the patch, where basically all of force_sw_decode is commented out
[13:10:08] peterbennett: Oh yes, it seems that is not necessary. I was looking yesterday for an advanced H246 sample to test to make sure it will fail over.
[13:11:28] peterbennett: I have, sometime in the last year, added a bit of code to automatically fail over to s/w decode if the decode fails on 10 sequential packates, and I think that should handle it.
[13:12:19] stuarta: as i understand the ffmpeg api, you can ask if the format can be handled by the hw
[13:12:59] peterbennett: stuarta: I am reverting that and will make it a separate commit, so as not to mix it up with the vaapi2 stuff.
[13:13:26] stuarta: can go in now?
[13:13:56] peterbennett: I would like to test it if anybody knows where I can get a sample of H264 HIGH 10 or one of the others
[13:15:03] peterbennett: That force-sw-decode removing is not related to vaapi2 I just saw it and decided it should not be there.
[13:15:33] peterbennett: It was added by jya so maybe we can check with him.
[13:16:09] ** peterbennett steps away for a while **
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[13:17:25] stuarta: peterbennett: http://www.h264info.com/clips.html ??
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[14:01:44] peterbennett: stuarta: I saw that, but there is no mention of profile high 10 or others. I doubt if they will have those
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[14:08:59] peterbennett: jya: Any idea where I can get sample video H264 High 10 High 422 high 444 etc. for testing?
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[14:50:18] stuarta: peterbennett: i've downloaded a few to examine
[14:51:20] stuarta: definitely some that are h264 high, it's the high 10 that'll be hard to fine
[14:51:22] stuarta: *fnd
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[14:53:33] jya: peterbennett: iirc, some early Intel couldn't do H264 high, even though it was reported that it did.
[14:54:17] jya: For h264, high 10 not all hardware can do it, I'd say the majority we can encounter will likely not.
[14:54:30] jya: Have you tried the bigs bunny site?
[14:54:49] peterbennett: jya: I have implemented a different way of detecting that it does not work, so I hope to remove the check and let the decoder detect.
[14:54:50] jya: Otherwise encoding a sample with ffmpeg won't be hard.
[14:55:05] jya: Our user typically use old hardware
[14:55:31] jya: Macos doesn't for a start, nor Windows media foundation
[14:55:38] stuarta: peterbennett: i wonder if that might be why i have a video that locks up the vaapi decoder
[14:56:19] peterbennett: I added code that reverts to s/w decoding if it gets 10 decoding errors in a row
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[14:56:51] peterbennett: stuarta: Try with the latest patch if it still locks up.
[14:57:37] stuarta: sure
[14:58:56] peterbennett: big buck bunny has lots of different frame rates and sizes but does not mention the h264 profile used
[14:59:24] stuarta: i've been downloading various samples and running ffprobe / ffmpeg on them to see what is reported
[14:59:41] peterbennett: I have the chicken and egg situation with live tv.
[14:59:54] stuarta: shoot the chicken, have dinner
[15:00:34] peterbennett: It cant set up deinterlace until it has some video data but it does not get video data until it has finished setting up the display outpur
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[15:04:51] jya: Should we even bother for yuv444 10 bits? I doubt you're going to see it in the wild. Hardware compatibility is so bad, may as well use hevc.
[15:05:05] jya: Support would be the same with half the bitrates.
[15:06:24] jya: Ffmpeg does generate by default yuv444 but 8 bits only.
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[15:20:19] peterbennett: jya: I am hoping it will just switch to s/w decoding if it encounters that. Just want to test to make sure.
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[19:22:28] gigem: peterbennett: This is a followup on a problem I reported earlier. I don't remember if was here or by email. Anyway, current master is crashing relatively frequently on both my and my mom's shields. It's not consistent nor predictable. Sometimes it will happen after 30 minutes or so and sometimes after a few hours. It happens with both mediacodec and software decoding, but perhaps more frequently with
[19:22:29] gigem: software decoding. I suspect the ffmpeg 4.0.2 update as the culprit. I've reverted my mom's shields back to the commit before that. I'll see if it's more stable. I'll try to catch a crash in gdb, but I'm not sure how easy that will be. Do you have any other debugging suggestions?
[19:23:20] peterbennett: gigem: Intermittent problems are always tricky
[19:24:05] peterbennett: So you just get thrown back to the android screen?
[19:46:26] jpabq: peterbennett: gigem: Over the last few days, I have had mythfrontend on the shield freeze a few times. I had to "Force Kill" it, to be able to contiue using it. Each time, timestretch was ingaged and it happend when I tried to jump forward. I will need to firgure out how to use adb so I can figure out where it is locked up.
[19:46:38] jpabq: engaged.
[19:47:54] peterbennett: jpabq: It is set up so you can just use ./gdb.sh and it will connect to your already running mythfrontend
[19:48:20] peterbennett: jpabq: As long as you built it previously and the build files are there.
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[20:01:28] jpabq: peterbennett: Okay, I will give that a try. I did wipe out my files, though, with the intent to rebuild. When I tried last weekend, the libs failed to build, complaining about qtwebkit. I figured I did not delete something I needed to first, and will try again from scratch.
[20:08:30] peterbennett: jpabq: you need to first adb connect to your shield, then ./gdb.sh will access your built libraries, copy them to a new location and invoke gdb remotely.
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[22:32:54] gigem: peterbennett: Yes, exits back to android home screen.
[22:34:09] gigem: jpabq, peterbennett: Yes, I've had those freezes too. The crashes back to home screen have been more common lately, though. I've been mostly using software decoding lately, so the freezes are likely mediacodec specific. The crashed to home screen happen in both.
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[22:38:12] gigem: peterbennett: With the 20180903_1555_livetv_fix.patch vaapi patch, I'm getting ./configure: 7074: ./configure: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then"). It's missing a "; then" at the end of line 7072.
[22:40:01] peterbennett: gigem: OK sorry. I gues I made a change but did not run configure again to test.
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[22:41:06] peterbennett: Thanks I will fix it in my copy
[22:42:18] peterbennett: It was part of my cleanup to make sure you can enable vaapi2 and disable vaapi2, but I did not test it
[22:42:37] peterbennett: sorry – enable vaapi2 and disable vaapi (the old code)
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[22:43:33] peterbennett: I think the crashes are likely when you get the program killed by android for using too much memory.
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