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Friday, August 17th, 2018, 01:08 UTC
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[02:27:35] gigem: jpabq: I just tried wifi on both of my shields. I have 2.4 GHz, 802.11n with the shields about 10 and 30 feet away from the access point. Everything worked, but things like playback startup, skipping and ff/rew were noticably slower than when wired to me. Anyone that hasn't seen the wired responsiveness, though, probably wouldn't care.
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[03:40:59] jpabq: gigem: thanks for testing it. I am curious: do you actually use ff/rew that much? Or, are you actually talking about jump and skip?
[04:34:26] gigem: jpabq: I use both ff/rew and jump/skip extensively. Basically, anything that required network traffic was noticably slower. That shouldn't be a surprise. Gigabit wired is *much* faster than 20–30 Megabit wifi.
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[06:46:49] markspieth2: jpabq: power eth over power adapters work very well with mythtv too. better than older cat5.
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[07:25:33] stuarta: markspieth2: eth over power??? used them lots until i could install proper cable
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[08:31:05] stuarta: tpowa: apologies kick you instead of a spammer from #mythtv-users
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[08:37:21] markspieth22: stuarta: easier than running a 2nd one down walls. latest ones are very fast and low latency.
[08:38:05] stuarta: markspieth22: i have a very long drill bit and externally rated ethernet cable, and i've gone around the walls of my house
[08:38:11] stuarta: (very common here in the UK)
[08:45:21] markspieth22: I havent got one of those yet. would need to be 2m+ for my walls to get through the 3 studs in the way. too many gadgets in the lounge/tv room.
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[08:46:00] stuarta: i think my drill bit is a good 60cm long
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[09:08:03] stuarta: hmmm, according to trac milestones the vague plan was to release 29.2 at the start of the month, clearly haven't done that
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[13:32:21] hampton: /me builds an Arch vm
[13:32:32] ** stuarta is doing the same **
[13:32:42] stuarta: i've already run the playbook
[13:33:00] stuarta: commented out urlgrabber and perl-upnp (iirc)
[13:33:46] hampton: I didn't realize the playbooks worked on arch. Which package manager does it use?
[13:35:49] stuarta: pacman
[13:37:09] stuarta: i'm not a fan of how you have to install it. i understand giving people a choice, but to the extreme of making them choose everything, boot loader, how to configure network, getting dns info etc etc
[13:37:35] stuarta: rebuilding initrd on installtion?? this stuff should be automatic
[13:38:00] ** stuarta apologizes to tpowa **
[13:38:10] hampton: Yeah, this is a little painful following their installation page.
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[13:39:29] stuarta: yeah the playbooks do debian, ubuntu, fedora, freebsd, arch, opensuse
[13:39:32] stuarta: i think that's all
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[13:41:39] stuarta: oh i forgot centos
[13:43:06] stuarta: woot checkout complete
[13:43:42] stuarta: samplerate is not in the playbook...
[13:43:44] ** stuarta adds **
[13:44:03] hampton: won't boot. :-(
[13:44:17] stuarta: ah you skipped the install boot loader section just like me ;-)
[13:50:23] stuarta: hampton: you will need this https://pastebin.com/nbfTpg2b
[13:51:46] stuarta: now why isn't this complaining about libbluray when it's not installed
[13:52:08] stuarta: ah that's because i haven't rerun configure yet
[13:52:11] stuarta: me--
[13:52:51] stuarta: you can ignore that pastebin for the moment
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[14:05:49] stuarta: hampton: btw. same goes for the freebsd playbook. that needs some updates after dropping the internal copies of external libs
[14:07:43] stuarta: hampton: try this for arch https://pastebin.com/2HJyPiM5
[14:08:56] stuarta: i'll commit this
[14:11:37] stuarta: need to handle AUR builds of urlgrabber and perl-net-upnp
[14:11:44] stuarta: todo_list++
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[14:15:58] hampton: I just had to do manual interface configuration...
[14:16:09] stuarta: yes. PITA
[14:16:31] hampton: so that I can install dhclient and have it done automatically. :-(
[14:16:55] stuarta: i setup systemd-networkd as that isn't tooooo bad
[14:17:28] hampton: My vm is running init. :-(
[14:17:44] stuarta: mainly dropping a config file, and enabling the service, as well as systemd-resolved, and putting in a symlink for resolv.conf so i get dns resolution
[14:20:07] hampton: I'm out of time for now. I may blow away this vm and reinstall arch when I get back to it.
[14:20:46] stuarta: i think i've covered enough to get the main part of mythtv to build
[14:21:17] stuarta: no idea about the plugins yet
[14:21:36] stuarta: and i'm leaving aside the stuff that needs to come from AUR
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[14:53:30] stuarta: plugins seem to build, apart from the missing perl and python deps which disable a few things
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[15:41:11] stuarta: well freebsd10 took all of 5 minutes to install
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[16:18:09] stuarta: hampton: there are some nasty perl warnings on the updated archlinux buildslave https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . e/logs/stdio
[16:22:08] stuarta: actually looks like it comes from a shipped perl module
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[16:28:32] stuarta: okay freebsd10, shall i use py27-ansible or py36-ansible???
[16:28:43] stuarta: lets try the latter
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[16:30:50] stuarta: and after you install it, it says python 3.x support is beta
[16:30:52] stuarta: sigh
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[18:30:45] hampton: Does your arch vm boot from bios or uefi?
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[19:21:03] stuarta: hampton: plain old bios
[19:21:29] stuarta: i can dump you the libvirt machine definition if it would help
[19:21:36] hampton: meh. reinstalled from scratch and systemd is there. don't know what I did the first time.
[19:22:38] hampton: enabled systemd-netword and systemd-resolved and rebooted. my ethernet is still down. (never used systemd networking before) just trying to chase that down now.
[19:24:07] stuarta: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd- . . . r_using_DHCP
[19:25:42] hampton: That worked. Nice and easy once you know what to do. Thanks.
[19:26:13] stuarta: don't forget the symlink to point /etc/resolv.conf to /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
[19:26:19] stuarta: if you want dns resolution ;-)
[19:27:39] stuarta: dang libfaac doesn't build properly on freebsd10.4
[19:27:41] hampton: :-)
[19:27:50] hampton: installing ansible and git...
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[19:28:37] stuarta: no wait audio/faac doesn't, faac does
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[19:30:40] stuarta: looks like it's moved from ports to a proper package, same with libcec
[19:31:43] stuarta: hampton: i committed everything necessary to get the build to work on arch
[19:32:02] stuarta: only thing missing is urlgrabber and perl-net-upnp which are in the AUR repos
[19:32:19] stuarta: adding support for those to the playbooks is currently filed under "meh"
[19:32:38] ** stuarta wanders off to find food **
[19:32:49] stuarta: whilst freebsd10.4 playbook runs
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[19:41:37] hampton: So should we comment them out? Ansible won't finish installing everything else with them present.
[19:42:54] hampton: I see the perl warnings
[19:43:44] jpabq: hampton: Good price: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-shield-tv . . . ck/6100500.p
[19:44:28] hampton: I saw that in (your?) email. Debating the 15 minute drive over to pick one up.
[19:45:22] jpabq: I am debating buying another one. I don't *really* need it, though.
[19:47:56] hampton: :-)
[19:53:15] hampton: stuarta: Looks good. Should I have vdpau or vaapi support? There doesn't seem to be a libhdhomerun package. :-(
[19:54:38] stuarta: unknown
[19:54:43] stuarta: now i really am going for dinner
[20:06:44] hampton: Hmm, I never explicitly installed vdpau and vaapi, but they're now enabled. I did install a couple of other libraries, so there's a dependency there somewhere.
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