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Wednesday, May 9th, 2018, 00:06 UTC
[00:06:12] jpabq_: Yeah. Hopefully this means that google will push it more, and it will start doing better.
[00:10:29] peterbennett: I wonder if I should try that application process. I am not sure where it leads.
[00:12:29] peterbennett: Since I don't have an android developer play account, I don't even know what that is.
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[01:11:01] markspieth2: doesn't say much about specs though.
[01:13:57] markspieth2: tomsguide has a description from a month ago s905x based which is not so good if thats accurate.
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[09:29:14] stuarta: #11477
[09:29:14] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11477 **
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[12:43:44] stuarta: well it's being hammered, but it's just about coping
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[13:21:44] hampton: What's hammering it?
[13:28:28] stuarta: hard to tell
[13:53:15] stuarta: requesting rss format for tickets it doesn't seem to like. they often timeout after 2 minutes
[13:59:56] stuarta: typically they are old tickets being walked by web crawlers
[14:17:28] hampton: Limit to the well known ones with robots.txt?
[14:17:46] hampton: Until you figure it out
[14:18:23] stuarta: already have pretty heavy limits on them
[14:18:44] stuarta: i'm happy in that it seems to have survived much much better than before
[14:23:44] gigem: peterbennett, markspieth: I hope that means Google has other, un-announced, partners lined up to make better devices. I'd heard a few months ago that Channel Master was coming out with an ATV-based DVR for cord cutters, but haven't heard anything about it since. At least Google is still trying to support ATV.
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[16:14:54] MythNotifyBot: Service: 08HTTP Trac is 07Down – 08Connection Timeout
[16:29:30] MythNotifyBot: Service: 08HTTP Trac is 07Up – 08HTTP 200 – OK
[16:35:56] peterbennett: stuarta: trac appears to be down. Getting the nginx error.
[16:36:51] peterbennett: stuarta: Ok it is working again.
[16:58:46] gigem: peterbennett, markspieth: Here's what I'm thinking for MediaCodec display profiles. MediaCodec Surface: we'll use whatever the decoder returns. MediaCodec High Quality/Normal/Slim: we'll take the decoder output and convert it for use with OpenGL. In both cases, we'll auto-detect or use a white list to detect if hardware deinterlacing is being done and whether it's single or double rate. If hardware
[16:58:48] gigem: deinterlacing isn't being done for the non-surface profiles, we'll use the specified OpenGL deinterlacing. What do y'all think?
[17:00:08] peterbennett: gigem: Yes sounds about right. Hopefully not much conversion is required.
[17:01:18] gigem: Okay. If markspieth agrees, I'll try to start setting that up. When do you think you'll try to use ffmpeg 4.0?
[17:01:26] peterbennett: gigem: I am planning to start with testing the integration of FFmpeg into the Mythtv repo using a subtree to make sure it works, on my repo
[17:01:47] peterbennett: gigem: I am planning to use ffmpeg master
[17:02:38] peterbennett: If nothing goes south on my repo I will do the same on mythtv devel/ffmpeg-resync branch, and then finnally on mythtv master branch
[17:02:42] gigem: I still have concerns with that, but we'll see how it goes. The master part, not the subtree part.
[17:03:11] peterbennett: I think that ffmpeg master is more reliable than MythTV master.
[17:03:58] peterbennett: We need to be careful with pulling new ffmpeg master, not to do it before a release cutoff
[17:04:48] peterbennett: If we use ffmpeg release branch then I believe the subtree pull will not work to switch to a new ffmpeg branch
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[17:06:24] peterbennett: I checked and FFmpeg release branches are branched off from master anyway, so worst case we could restrict to those branch off points in ffmpeg master for our pulls.
[17:07:31] gigem: That would be nice (ffmpeg master being stable). As I said, we'll see. I'm really keen to get the MediaCodec support into the Android port. I just wish I had more time to devote to it. My TODO list has been growing exponentially lately. :(
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[19:48:39] stuarta: peterbennett: it was under a sustained heavy load for at least the last 4hrs of my working day
[19:48:55] stuarta: it coped an awful lot better than previously
[19:50:54] peterbennett: stuarta: I wonder why the load is so heavy
[19:51:20] peterbennett: stuarta: anyway thanks for all the work on the web site.
[19:51:32] stuarta: mainly web crawlers
[19:51:52] stuarta: some queries are particularly heavy.
[19:52:01] stuarta: such as asking for tickets in rss format
[19:52:11] peterbennett: stuarta: Do you have any advice on an issue around configuer ?
[19:52:32] stuarta: which one? the new arch linux one for freetype2?
[19:52:50] peterbennett: stuarta: The old configure accepted basically any option that was valid for FFmpeg, even if it had no relevance to MythTV
[19:53:08] peterbennett: stuarta: Thsi is an email from John Pilkington
[19:53:34] stuarta: lemme look at my email
[19:53:40] peterbennett: The configure now only accepts MythTV options (i.e. ones from ./configure --help)
[19:54:04] peterbennett: email title "rpm build of master fails after ffmpeg refactor"
[19:54:41] peterbennett: So John's build fails because it rejects --enable-libtheora
[19:55:10] peterbennett: MythTV never uses libtheora but the rpm builders thought to require it
[19:55:37] stuarta: btw. with that freetype2 patch. i think it needs coding to handle both new and old ways of finding freetype
[19:55:59] peterbennett: No the freetype2 patch works with old and new versions
[19:56:12] stuarta: really? ok
[19:56:45] peterbennett: The new method uses pkgconfig, whiche was there already before the change
[19:57:11] stuarta: sounds like and improvement
[19:58:09] peterbennett: yes the freetype2 patch removes a bunch of code if you look at it
[19:58:10] stuarta: back to ffmpeg, we do have users who prefer the ffmpeg builds using the external libraries (at least i think we do, no idea how you would verify)
[19:59:12] peterbennett: Yes but according to ffmpeg, libtheora is only fro theora encoding. Maybe that is used in Mythmusic plugin?
[19:59:19] stuarta: so either we make a case with john for not requiring any of those external libraries, and dropping them from his build, or we pass through the relevant bits
[19:59:26] stuarta: doubt it
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[20:00:14] stuarta: i suspect we can make a case for dropping theora
[20:00:34] stuarta: as you say if it's only used for encoding in ffmpeg, we certainly don't encode to that format
[20:01:00] peterbennett: According to john it is part of an rpm build
[20:01:15] peterbennett: And others are also included.
[20:01:17] stuarta: well yes, but only because it's passed into the configure
[20:01:30] stuarta: dunno how much you know about spec files
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[20:01:57] stuarta: but they tell the builders how to build and package the rpm
[20:02:06] peterbennett: So maybe I should get a list from John and just pass them through to the FFmpeg build, that is easy.
[20:02:52] stuarta: yeah. suggest removing theora tho, based on what you've just said
[20:03:40] peterbennett: libvorbis – enables encoding and decoding via external library
[20:03:57] stuarta: libvorbis, libx26[45] is can see why
[20:04:06] peterbennett: libvps enables VP8 and VP9 vie external library
[20:04:22] stuarta: libxvid is pretty similar
[20:04:49] peterbennett: x264, x265, xvid we already support
[20:05:17] stuarta: natively, those flags use and external library for the same thing
[20:05:29] stuarta: some say with difference in quality
[20:05:37] stuarta: tbh i never use them
[20:06:18] peterbennett: So maybe to avoid too much argument I should just allow all the libraries in the spec file – how do I get the list
[20:06:24] peterbennett: ?
[20:07:22] stuarta: he's not said for which distro, so no idea where to look (or google for)
[20:08:12] peterbennett: I will ask him to send me a list
[20:08:13] stuarta: so based purely on the --enable-lib* flags in his email, i would say allow those, ask him to remove libtheora, and as what others there are?
[20:08:31] stuarta: ideally build logs so they can be reviewed
[20:08:39] stuarta: (web link for the above)
[20:08:48] peterbennett: I need the contents of his <snip>
[20:09:02] stuarta: it must be in a git repo somewhere
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[20:10:01] gigem: peterbennett: How about a --extra-ffmpeg-config "whatever the user wants" option with a big caveat emptor?
[20:11:51] peterbennett: gigem: That still means those guys still have to change their scripts, Worth thinking about though.
[20:13:04] gigem: And what's wrong with them having to adjust their own nonstandard use case?
[20:13:53] stuarta: dang, i've just 504'd trac trying to change a ticket milestone
[20:14:08] stuarta: yet, the change took
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[21:15:10] ** stuarta grumbles **
[21:43:17] markspieth22: gigem: sounds like a plan and any plan is good.
[21:47:35] stuarta: especially a cunning one ;-)
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[22:31:42] markspieth: I love a cunning plan :-)
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