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[00:06:12] | jpabq_: | Yeah. Hopefully this means that google will push it more, and it will start doing better. |
[00:10:29] | peterbennett: | I wonder if I should try that application process. I am not sure where it leads. |
[00:12:29] | peterbennett: | Since I don't have an android developer play account, I don't even know what that is. |
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[01:11:01] | markspieth2: | doesn't say much about specs though. |
[01:13:57] | markspieth2: | tomsguide has a description from a month ago s905x based which is not so good if thats accurate. |
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[09:29:14] | stuarta: | #11477 |
[09:29:14] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11477 ** | |
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[12:43:44] | stuarta: | well it's being hammered, but it's just about coping |
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[13:21:44] | hampton: | What's hammering it? |
[13:28:28] | stuarta: | hard to tell |
[13:53:15] | stuarta: | requesting rss format for tickets it doesn't seem to like. they often timeout after 2 minutes |
[13:59:56] | stuarta: | typically they are old tickets being walked by web crawlers |
[14:17:28] | hampton: | Limit to the well known ones with robots.txt? |
[14:17:46] | hampton: | Until you figure it out |
[14:18:23] | stuarta: | already have pretty heavy limits on them |
[14:18:44] | stuarta: | i'm happy in that it seems to have survived much much better than before |
[14:23:44] | gigem: | peterbennett, markspieth: I hope that means Google has other, un-announced, partners lined up to make better devices. I'd heard a few months ago that Channel Master was coming out with an ATV-based DVR for cord cutters, but haven't heard anything about it since. At least Google is still trying to support ATV. |
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[16:14:54] | MythNotifyBot: | Service: 08HTTP Trac is 07Down – 08Connection Timeout |
[16:29:30] | MythNotifyBot: | Service: 08HTTP Trac is 07Up – 08HTTP 200 – OK |
[16:35:56] | peterbennett: | stuarta: trac appears to be down. Getting the nginx error. |
[16:36:51] | peterbennett: | stuarta: Ok it is working again. |
[16:58:46] | gigem: | peterbennett, markspieth: Here's what I'm thinking for MediaCodec display profiles. MediaCodec Surface: we'll use whatever the decoder returns. MediaCodec High Quality/Normal/Slim: we'll take the decoder output and convert it for use with OpenGL. In both cases, we'll auto-detect or use a white list to detect if hardware deinterlacing is being done and whether it's single or double rate. If hardware |
[16:58:48] | gigem: | deinterlacing isn't being done for the non-surface profiles, we'll use the specified OpenGL deinterlacing. What do y'all think? |
[17:00:08] | peterbennett: | gigem: Yes sounds about right. Hopefully not much conversion is required. |
[17:01:18] | gigem: | Okay. If markspieth agrees, I'll try to start setting that up. When do you think you'll try to use ffmpeg 4.0? |
[17:01:26] | peterbennett: | gigem: I am planning to start with testing the integration of FFmpeg into the Mythtv repo using a subtree to make sure it works, on my repo |
[17:01:47] | peterbennett: | gigem: I am planning to use ffmpeg master |
[17:02:38] | peterbennett: | If nothing goes south on my repo I will do the same on mythtv devel/ffmpeg-resync branch, and then finnally on mythtv master branch |
[17:02:42] | gigem: | I still have concerns with that, but we'll see how it goes. The master part, not the subtree part. |
[17:03:11] | peterbennett: | I think that ffmpeg master is more reliable than MythTV master. |
[17:03:58] | peterbennett: | We need to be careful with pulling new ffmpeg master, not to do it before a release cutoff |
[17:04:48] | peterbennett: | If we use ffmpeg release branch then I believe the subtree pull will not work to switch to a new ffmpeg branch |
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[17:06:24] | peterbennett: | I checked and FFmpeg release branches are branched off from master anyway, so worst case we could restrict to those branch off points in ffmpeg master for our pulls. |
[17:07:31] | gigem: | That would be nice (ffmpeg master being stable). As I said, we'll see. I'm really keen to get the MediaCodec support into the Android port. I just wish I had more time to devote to it. My TODO list has been growing exponentially lately. :( |
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[19:48:39] | stuarta: | peterbennett: it was under a sustained heavy load for at least the last 4hrs of my working day |
[19:48:55] | stuarta: | it coped an awful lot better than previously |
[19:50:54] | peterbennett: | stuarta: I wonder why the load is so heavy |
[19:51:20] | peterbennett: | stuarta: anyway thanks for all the work on the web site. |
[19:51:32] | stuarta: | mainly web crawlers |
[19:51:52] | stuarta: | some queries are particularly heavy. |
[19:52:01] | stuarta: | such as asking for tickets in rss format |
[19:52:11] | peterbennett: | stuarta: Do you have any advice on an issue around configuer ? |
[19:52:32] | stuarta: | which one? the new arch linux one for freetype2? |
[19:52:50] | peterbennett: | stuarta: The old configure accepted basically any option that was valid for FFmpeg, even if it had no relevance to MythTV |
[19:53:08] | peterbennett: | stuarta: Thsi is an email from John Pilkington |
[19:53:34] | stuarta: | lemme look at my email |
[19:53:40] | peterbennett: | The configure now only accepts MythTV options (i.e. ones from ./configure --help) |
[19:54:04] | peterbennett: | email title "rpm build of master fails after ffmpeg refactor" |
[19:54:41] | peterbennett: | So John's build fails because it rejects --enable-libtheora |
[19:55:10] | peterbennett: | MythTV never uses libtheora but the rpm builders thought to require it |
[19:55:37] | stuarta: | btw. with that freetype2 patch. i think it needs coding to handle both new and old ways of finding freetype |
[19:55:59] | peterbennett: | No the freetype2 patch works with old and new versions |
[19:56:12] | stuarta: | really? ok |
[19:56:45] | peterbennett: | The new method uses pkgconfig, whiche was there already before the change |
[19:57:11] | stuarta: | sounds like and improvement |
[19:58:09] | peterbennett: | yes the freetype2 patch removes a bunch of code if you look at it |
[19:58:10] | stuarta: | back to ffmpeg, we do have users who prefer the ffmpeg builds using the external libraries (at least i think we do, no idea how you would verify) |
[19:59:12] | peterbennett: | Yes but according to ffmpeg, libtheora is only fro theora encoding. Maybe that is used in Mythmusic plugin? |
[19:59:19] | stuarta: | so either we make a case with john for not requiring any of those external libraries, and dropping them from his build, or we pass through the relevant bits |
[19:59:26] | stuarta: | doubt it |
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[20:00:14] | stuarta: | i suspect we can make a case for dropping theora |
[20:00:34] | stuarta: | as you say if it's only used for encoding in ffmpeg, we certainly don't encode to that format |
[20:01:00] | peterbennett: | According to john it is part of an rpm build |
[20:01:15] | peterbennett: | And others are also included. |
[20:01:17] | stuarta: | well yes, but only because it's passed into the configure |
[20:01:30] | stuarta: | dunno how much you know about spec files |
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[20:01:57] | stuarta: | but they tell the builders how to build and package the rpm |
[20:02:06] | peterbennett: | So maybe I should get a list from John and just pass them through to the FFmpeg build, that is easy. |
[20:02:52] | stuarta: | yeah. suggest removing theora tho, based on what you've just said |
[20:03:40] | peterbennett: | libvorbis – enables encoding and decoding via external library |
[20:03:57] | stuarta: | libvorbis, libx26[45] is can see why |
[20:04:06] | peterbennett: | libvps enables VP8 and VP9 vie external library |
[20:04:22] | stuarta: | libxvid is pretty similar |
[20:04:49] | peterbennett: | x264, x265, xvid we already support |
[20:05:17] | stuarta: | natively, those flags use and external library for the same thing |
[20:05:29] | stuarta: | some say with difference in quality |
[20:05:37] | stuarta: | tbh i never use them |
[20:06:18] | peterbennett: | So maybe to avoid too much argument I should just allow all the libraries in the spec file – how do I get the list |
[20:06:24] | peterbennett: | ? |
[20:07:22] | stuarta: | he's not said for which distro, so no idea where to look (or google for) |
[20:08:12] | peterbennett: | I will ask him to send me a list |
[20:08:13] | stuarta: | so based purely on the --enable-lib* flags in his email, i would say allow those, ask him to remove libtheora, and as what others there are? |
[20:08:31] | stuarta: | ideally build logs so they can be reviewed |
[20:08:39] | stuarta: | (web link for the above) |
[20:08:48] | peterbennett: | I need the contents of his <snip> |
[20:09:02] | stuarta: | it must be in a git repo somewhere |
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[20:10:01] | gigem: | peterbennett: How about a --extra-ffmpeg-config "whatever the user wants" option with a big caveat emptor? |
[20:11:51] | peterbennett: | gigem: That still means those guys still have to change their scripts, Worth thinking about though. |
[20:13:04] | gigem: | And what's wrong with them having to adjust their own nonstandard use case? |
[20:13:53] | stuarta: | dang, i've just 504'd trac trying to change a ticket milestone |
[20:14:08] | stuarta: | yet, the change took |
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[21:15:10] | ** stuarta grumbles ** | |
[21:43:17] | markspieth22: | gigem: sounds like a plan and any plan is good. |
[21:47:35] | stuarta: | especially a cunning one ;-) |
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[22:31:42] | markspieth: | I love a cunning plan :-) |
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