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Wednesday, September 13th, 2017, 00:06 UTC
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[08:02:22] stuarta: morning all
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[09:04:56] stuarta: so now have a simplified reproducer for vaapi on wayland not working, which uses just basic X / GLX calls and libva calls, and the issue still exists
[09:21:23] stuarta: curious why vainfo works tho
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[20:50:52] stuarta: evening all
[20:52:12] peterbennett: Evening
[20:57:51] gigem: Afternoon. :) Do either of you have any comments regarding the inputnames stuff I brought up yesterday? If nobody else cares, I'll just keep it as a local change.
[20:57:55] stuarta: so i narrowed down my vaapi issue under wayland, made a simple reproducer which works on f25, fails on 26 under wayland and works under xorg and fired it off to the fedora maintainer
[20:58:10] stuarta: gigem: i must have missed that
[20:58:30] gigem: I'll post a link from the logs shortly.
[20:59:53] peterbennett: gigem: I did not see that.
[20:59:57] stuarta: basically the vaapi issue isn't ours, nor is it unique to us (hits just about every media type player)
[21:00:14] gigem: peterbennett: Also, do you have any idea if the openmax used on the nvidia shield has deinterlacing more comparable to the rpi or desktop invidia graphics? I've been loosely following your rpi work, but I'm much more intrigued by running mythtv on the shiled.
[21:00:24] peterbennett: gigem: I already posted a patch for the slow setup that I think addresses it with minimum disruption
[21:01:20] peterbennett: gigem: I am not familiar with "nvidia shield"
[21:01:52] gigem: peterbennett: Cool. I'll check out your patch.
[21:02:29] stuarta: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/
[21:02:49] peterbennett: gigem: I think MythTV will not be compatible with openmax implementations other than RPi. The openmax on RPI has many customizations that do not apply elsewhere.
[21:03:09] ** stuarta puts it on the rainy day list **
[21:03:12] gigem: peterbennett: It's an AnroidTV box from nvidia with an arm cpu but perhaps their own graphics. It's the Cadillac of small stbs.
[21:03:27] stuarta: personally, i'd like to be able to support stuff like that, but we have a *long* way to go
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[21:04:14] gigem: I figured/hoped they used vdpau, but when I downloaded and unpacked the sdk, all I saw was openmax.
[21:04:43] stuarta: wonder which openmax implementation it is...
[21:04:59] peterbennett: I was contemplating whether we could support an "external" player somehow so that we don't have to deal with all the decoding rendering stuff on different types of boxes
[21:05:33] stuarta: ah, it can use vulkan
[21:05:51] peterbennett: Gotta go now. Bye
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[21:06:23] stuarta: gigem: the more i dig into our graphics code, the more it needs a broom putting through it
[21:07:12] gigem: stuarta (and peterbennett if you come back): The inputname stuff is on http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2017-09-12/ beginning at [21:13:45].
[21:07:27] stuarta: that was suggested by (iirc) mark kendall years ago, but at the time there was resistance (i think due to variable quality opengl support)
[21:07:36] stuarta: now i think the time is right
[21:08:46] gigem: That's an area of code I've mostly tried to avoid, but yeah, I kind of agree with you. There are plenty of player APIs around that we could hook into and concentrate on adding our own value elsewhere.
[21:09:19] stuarta: we seem to be carrying a horrible amount of legacy crap
[21:09:32] stuarta: which qt can abstract away for us
[21:09:43] stuarta: qtpainter hides much
[21:10:12] ** stuarta has been experimenting with the "modern" qt opengl interfaces **
[21:11:05] stuarta: gigem: is the limited space for display really an issue?
[21:11:37] stuarta: i suppose the only place i see anything other than an input number is in mythweb which shows me the input name
[21:15:52] gigem: stuarta: I've been paying attention and know you've been trying some interesting stuff. :) I'll hopefully have more time for such things myself sometime in the not too distant future. I recently dipped my big toe into retirement by reducing my hours. I expect to dive in the rest of the way some time next year.
[21:16:25] stuarta: yeah, i really need to finish off the alcor migration before i dip any more toes....
[21:16:43] gigem: stuarta: All of the themes I use only have about two characters room. Those themes are mainly my own version of BlueAbstract and MythCenter.
[21:18:06] stuarta: your suggestion seems reasonable
[21:18:29] gigem: stuarta: Also, being the "scheduler guy", I realize I pay way more attention to how and which inputs get used than does the typical user.
[21:18:37] stuarta: i would maybe add if (inputname.isEmpty()) use input id/num
[21:19:01] stuarta: such that any user would effectively see no change if they didn't have inputnames set
[21:20:12] gigem: Which suggestion? To use first and last characters? If I do any of it, I'll make inputname mandatory in some way with constraint checks to make sure the full and abbreviated names are unique.
[21:20:52] stuarta: i'm just considering how that effects users who have never bothered to set an inputname
[21:21:27] stuarta: i guess simple is on upgrade set inputname = inputnum if the inputname is already empty
[21:21:46] stuarta: i'm fine with the first/last character thing
[21:22:03] gigem: There already is handling for when the user didn't provide a name. Yeah, I would just fill it in on schema upgrade then require it to remain set there after.
[21:23:09] gigem: Great. Thanks for your input. I'll continue with what I've started then.
[21:23:47] stuarta: for reference, i set my card inputnames to things like, dvb-t, dvb-s2, or satellite, terrestrial
[21:33:22] stuarta: sheesh, now i want an nvidia shield
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[22:04:22] gigem: stuarta: I've got mine set to things line HVR2250–0, ITV6–3 and HDHR-2.
[22:05:28] gigem: Yes, the 2017 shield costs more than most everything it competes against, but it sure looks nice and powerful.
[22:11:55] stuarta: be a lovely target platform for a frontend
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