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Monday, November 21st, 2016, 00:22 UTC
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[02:55:29] jya: dmfrey: ffmpeg
[03:10:44] dmfrey: jya: thanks, that is what I was thinking. Do you happen to know the flag to enable mpeg2 video decoding?
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[03:11:04] dmfrey: --enable-decoder=mpeg-2 or something like that
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[03:37:48] jya: dmfrey: what exactly do you want to do, mpeg2 encoding or decoding?
[03:37:56] jya: have you ever used libavcodec before?
[03:38:28] jya: by default ffmpeg will have a mpeg2 decoder, it's been there for ages
[03:40:32] kukks: just to report back about my current findings regarding DVB-T2 HD in Berlin: (sorry about my confusion about all this new stuff)
[03:40:52] kukks: Very recent git master: i also see (very) long tuning times when switching between *any* TV-live channels. Viewing HD-Live with mythfrontend still not possible.
[03:41:26] kukks: Now comes the somewhat strange part. I switched back to recent "fixes/0.28" – and tried again the KODI MythTV PVR (3.4.7). That frontend is now able to display the DVB-T2 HD stuff...
[03:42:13] kukks: But that's *not* stable. When switching around between channels – sometimes i get "channel not available". Next time all is fine. I get get the impression, that "tuning delay" (or retries) play a role here. Sorry, I'm really new to this stuff :-)
[03:49:56] dmfrey: jya: i'm trying to get ffmpeg cross compiled for android so I can provide playback in MythTV Player without having to drop out to something like VLC.
[03:50:01] dmfrey: strictly decoding
[03:50:04] kukks: as i already mentioned – when using "fixes/0.28" – *mythfrontend* cannot display HD-live
[03:50:36] dmfrey: maybe its somthing in my configure statement, i will pastebin it
[03:51:04] jya: if you plan on using the ffmpeg utility, then you don't have to worry about the input format, only what you want to convert to
[03:51:46] jya: but I'm confused why you would bother with converting the video if you do a "mythtv player"
[03:51:56] jya: why not use the original mythtv decoder?
[03:52:07] dmfrey: jya: http://pastebin.com/3WDGCDTZ
[03:52:25] jya: for any ffmpeg related question, you should ask on #ffmpeg
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[03:52:47] dmfrey: this is for the android app
[03:52:48] jya: what you're doing has little to do with mythtv
[03:53:14] dmfrey: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mythtv.android
[03:53:45] jya: great, but why would you want to decode with the ffmpeg utility first.. decode into what?
[03:54:27] jya: if all you want to do is play a video (recording or otherwise), why would you need to use ffmpeg ?
[03:54:40] dmfrey: With the current playback available on android, mpeg2 decoding is not possible
[03:55:01] jya: ok, then use the service API and convert that into a HLS stream
[03:55:02] dmfrey: They now have an opensource media player called ExoPlayer
[03:55:10] jya: just like what the iOS AppleTV app is doing
[03:55:22] jya: android has a mpeg2 decoder FWIW
[03:55:29] dmfrey: I do support HLS, but some users don't want to do HLS
[03:55:53] dmfrey: they claim backends aren't powerful enough perform the transcode
[03:56:15] jya: or maybe not :)
[03:56:48] dmfrey: certain android tv boxes have a hardware decoder for mpeg2, but phones don't
[03:56:49] jya: and they think that their poor android device will be more powerful to do that?
[03:57:13] dmfrey: i know, i agree, it is going to kill the batter faster
[03:57:31] dmfrey: I have been just dropping out to VLC
[03:57:49] jya: can you extend the ExoPlayer with new decoder?
[03:58:05] dmfrey: yes
[03:58:20] jya: is there a ffmpeg (libavcodec really) based one?
[03:58:44] dmfrey: yes, i have an ffmpeg extension in there to handle the ac3 audio
[03:59:26] dmfrey: they have extensions for vp9 and a bunch of others
[03:59:32] jya: well, surely there's nothing more to do decode mpeg2 then
[03:59:41] jya: just reuse the same decoder as for ac3
[03:59:49] jya: it's pretty much the same thing
[04:00:10] jya: note that I know nothing about exothing
[04:00:11] dmfrey: https://github.com/google/ExoPlayer, check out the code in the demo directory
[04:01:12] dmfrey: as a start i was trying to get ffmpeg to do it all, but I must be configuring it wrong
[04:01:27] dmfrey: i posted that pastebin above
[04:03:39] jya: you should ask on #ffmpeg or #ffmpeg-devel even if someone has developed a ExoPlayer Renderer
[04:03:52] jya: reading the dev docs, that's what you need
[04:04:01] dmfrey: i will, thanks
[04:04:05] jya: ffmpeg will not do what you want to do
[04:04:15] dmfrey: oh, ok
[04:04:18] jya: you're confused about what ffmpeg can or can't do I think
[04:04:42] dmfrey: yeah, i agree
[04:04:58] jya: ffmpeg , the executable, is a utility allowing you to process a media file (resize, transcode, filter etc)
[04:05:47] jya: FFmpeg the project, provides a sets of APIs used to decode / encode videos via libav* libraries. ffmpeg utility, uses those libav* libraries
[04:06:13] dmfrey: i cross compiled it for arm and it is being used as the renderer for ac3 audio
[04:06:19] jya: to write a ExoPlayer Renderer, you'll need to write one, or find one already developed, that is using those libs
[04:06:27] jya: here, all you'll need is libavcodec
[04:06:44] jya: where is the source code of this ac3 renderer?
[04:07:17] jya: I doubt it would be using ffmpeg (the exe)
[04:08:09] dmfrey: one sec, i will grab a link
[04:08:50] dmfrey: https://github.com/google/ExoPlayer/tree/rele . . . sions/ffmpeg
[04:09:58] dmfrey: in the readme it describes cross compiling it. i add --enable-decoder=ac3 and now the player plays the audio, just no video
[04:10:19] dmfrey: i tried then adding --enable-decoder=mpeg2video, but that didn't resolve it
[04:12:36] dmfrey: ok, i am seeing just an audio renderer with that code, which uses ffmpeg
[04:13:00] dmfrey: so I think i need to write a video renderer
[04:14:27] dmfrey: i was definitely mixing up which piece was doing what
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[04:25:46] jya: dmfrey: yeah, there's only audio in both the java and the jni
[04:25:53] jya: doesn't seem too complicated to do
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[04:34:23] dmfrey: jya: thanks for your help
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[10:00:03] stuarta: pushed a change that should fix the build failures
[10:03:18] jya: stuarta: just tried to push mine :)
[10:03:26] stuarta: jya: doh, apologies
[10:03:56] jya: no worries... i also had to bump the ABI
[10:03:58] stuarta: thought you had finished for the day
[10:05:07] jya: i had to stop, kids duties :)
[10:05:16] stuarta: haha, know that well
[10:05:25] jya: i think i got all mythconverg covered now
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[10:31:44] stuarta: jya: covered in what way?
[10:34:55] jya: stuarta: it was broken from a change I did in 0.28 almost 2 years ago. If the width wasn't a multiple of 32, what would come out would garbage.
[10:35:12] stuarta: :-/
[10:35:19] jya: Additionally, nuv encoder was broken, rtjpeg compressor was broken.
[10:35:39] stuarta: shows how much they are used these days if nobody noticed
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[10:35:50] jya: And I found some videos like HDR ones, reencoding would have also been broken.
[10:36:16] jya: Oh people did notice. There were a few bugs about HLS streaming being broken.
[10:38:40] stuarta: i mean they didn't seem to notice for nuv & rtjpeg
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[11:47:39] stuarta: jya: would switching any avpicture_fill calls to AVPictureFill help to later transition to the current ffmpeg API?
[11:49:23] jya: Not sure.. but likely less.. I want to rely less and less on Ffmpeg data type, and use our own instead. So just modifying the wrapper is all we need.
[11:49:38] jya: I'll have a look tomorrow at removing all the deprecated call
[11:49:47] stuarta: oh okay
[11:50:05] jya: There shouldn't be much avpicture_fill left now.
[11:51:08] jya: And AvPicture itself is going the way of the dodo. Instead you have AVFrame which starts with the same fields, so you can use an AVFrame in place of an AVPicture
[11:51:15] stuarta: 29 occurances in total
[11:51:18] jya: Provided you cast
[11:51:23] jya: Really?
[11:51:31] stuarta: in mythtv/libs
[11:52:07] jya: I had been through most of them, the one left are the one two deeply linked to ffmpeg API. Like in xvideo for scaling and the like.
[11:52:17] stuarta: yeah i was reading about using AVPicture, sadly i don't know enough about ffmpeg right now
[11:52:52] jya: I'm going to have a go at adding support for the new vaapi filters this week.
[11:52:57] stuarta: oh nice
[11:53:06] jya: Gives fairly advanced deinterlacing options.
[11:53:17] stuarta: so there's a few in the plugins too
[11:53:40] jya: The intel docs indicates that it should be rather straight forward.
[11:55:14] stuarta: the main problem i have with most of the mythtv code, is it's not documented. the lack of comments is appalling, which makes it really hard to understand why something is being done
[12:07:26] stuarta: or even what it's meant to do
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[14:29:07] stuarta: sheesh, i've been working on mythtv for 11 years now...>8–0
[14:35:23] stuarta: #8251
[14:35:23] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8251 **
[14:36:14] stuarta: #10136
[14:36:14] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10136 **
[14:36:49] stuarta: #10784
[14:36:49] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10784 **
[14:37:49] stuarta: right, that's the old quilt patches cleaned up, none of which were needed since fixes have long since been committed
[14:54:09] stuarta: and that's the dev laptop upgraded to f25
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[15:54:40] sphery: So, I think https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12871#comment:5 says that the patch for setting the SQL mode for Perl bindings works as designed. (I'm assuming Allan, who reported success, thought Jason, the original bug reporter, replied with a comment to try the patch.)
[15:55:44] sphery: I'd really appreciate it if anyone who has a working dev system could commit the patch. Thanks.
[15:56:18] sphery: I really need to get mine updated and working so I can help out a bit more...  :(
[16:10:39] stuarta: :shipit:
[16:12:03] stuarta: the more the users see we take their feedback, the more they will help out
[16:31:05] jams: stuarta that statement is more true then you realize
[16:31:21] jams: or maybe it isn't..but it's true :)
[16:48:07] stuarta: jams: i see far too much evidence in various open source projects of "it builds, :shipit:"
[16:48:35] stuarta: or for projects written in interpreted languages "it works on my laptop, :shipit:"
[17:00:09] ** stuarta wanders off **
[17:00:19] jams: oh sure so many project have such low qa standards or none at all
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[19:55:48] dekarl: you have 18bit transport_stream_ids on UK DVB-T? How does that work? (scratching head at https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/pull/124/com . . . 888b4470R108 )
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[22:13:35] enyc: dekarl: not sure but if you'd like me to collect any info from a working UK DVB-T + DVB-T2 combo 0.28 system please do let me know
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[22:25:22] dekarl: enyc: a good start would be NIT/BAT/PAT/PMT/SDT/AIT from one of the new DVB-T2 HD muxes. hexdump + decode would be nice. http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-sdt.html just ./dvbsnoop -n 1 <PID of the table> without -nph (without no hexdump)
[22:31:56] enyc: didn't even realisz ethere was a 'new' mux..... since when?
[22:44:04] dekarl: "new" as in running since March ;)
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[22:46:54] dekarl: I was thinking of this mux https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T2_HD#Senderangebot_Pilotmux
[22:47:59] dekarl: hm, I wonder what signalling is around the substream concept. Haven't really dug into that, yet

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