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[13:43:39] stuarta: afternoon all
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[14:23:37] Steve-Goodey: stuarta: How are your Olympic recordings going?
[14:24:08] stuarta: Steve-Goodey: i stopped them after it started deleting a lot of my other recordings
[14:24:16] stuarta: filled ~2Tb in 3 days
[14:25:17] stuarta: what concerns me most at the moment is the scheduler is blocking the backend to the extent that the frontend thinks it's gone offline
[14:25:34] Steve-Goodey: Blimey, that's going some. How were you going to watch all that? Or wasn't that the idea?
[14:25:54] stuarta: i wasn't expecting it to consume that much space
[14:26:12] stuarta: i was going to cherry pick recordings at my leisure
[14:26:19] stuarta: now i've deleted the log
[14:26:22] stuarta: *lot
[14:31:48] jheizer: at 182 recordings I'm going to have to start deleting some soon too
[14:32:22] jheizer: I followed you and disabled comm flagging even though I could keep up. Just seemed wasteful.
[14:33:47] stuarta: gigem: have you ever seen the scheduler blocking frontend operations like i've been describing?
[14:34:04] stuarta: jheizer: my commflagging was 2 days behind, that didn't help either
[14:34:37] jheizer: haha yeah. I was usually about an hour behind. But figured what's the point.
[14:36:50] jheizer: looks like I'm at 1.8TB used
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[14:50:52] pvr4me: Good morning. Donno if anyone looked at the logs; I’ve got an OS X 0.28 test system up. Looks like a couple of bugs. Should I create one umbrella bug report or separate ones?
[14:54:29] stuarta: pvr4me: are they related or completely independent?
[14:56:15] pvr4me: Independendent. One is the AppleRemote fails to initialize. Another is that mythtv-setup and mythfrontend sometimes stop responding to the keyboard. (Possible this is related to running in a VM.)
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[14:57:44] pvr4me: Also think there may be video playback problems trying to use VDA. Again, need to try more and it could be related to running in a VM.
[15:00:09] pvr4me: Also have another guy testing—need to figure out if we’re seeing the same things or not.
[15:05:04] stuarta: i'd say one for the remote, one for the stop responding to keyboard
[15:05:15] stuarta: if you identify the vda issue, then one for that too
[15:06:20] pvr4me: OK. May be later today before I post anything
[15:06:49] stuarta: is it too much to hope you have patches for any of them?
[15:08:05] pvr4me: Yeah, sorry…I’m no c/c++ developer. Best I can do is to try to give detailed bug reports.
[15:08:54] pvr4me: (You may remember that I do the MacPorts packaging and supplied the OS X buildbots.)
[15:08:58] stuarta: no worries
[15:09:06] stuarta: yeah i remembered
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[17:29:14] gigem: stuarta: No, not to my knowledge. What were your schedule times again? I believe there have been others in the past with far worse times that didn't report similar problems. I think your problem might be something new.
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[17:31:03] pvr4me: Argh, I don’t think there is a problem with the Apple Remote. The IR receiver hardware is not presented to the VM I’m using so the code rightfully failed trying to initialize it! Sorry for the noise. (It did get me to dig out my old Apple Remote and verify that it works with my production 0.27.5 system.)
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[17:34:32] pvr4me: stuarta: re the possible keyboard problem, is there a logging option that might help? I tried verbose=gui but it seems to be mainly related to theming issues?
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[20:54:44] jafa: heads up – FOX is asking the FCC to lock things down to prevent non-approved apps from displaying FOX content
[20:54:50] jafa: "The Commission representatives indicated that they were seriously considering a revised approach to this proceeding that would ensure that all of Fox’s and other programmers’ valuable content would remain inside of, and under the control of, apps developed exclusively by multichannel video programming distributors (MVPDs) with whom programmers have a direct contractual relationship. The Commission staff also stressed that th
[20:54:50] jafa: ird party platforms, when distributing these MVPD apps, would be required to honor and abide by all of the terms and conditions set forth in programmers’ licenses with MVPDs."
[20:55:22] jafa: "provide programmers with effective means to enforce compliance with their licensing agreements, and ensure that programmers can continue to engage with their viewers"
[20:55:47] jafa: "We also expressed support for a rule construct in which programming at all times remains inside of an MVPD-controlled app, which we said was the only way of ensuring that the security of content is not jeopardized"
[20:56:13] jafa: (FOX representatives)
[20:57:47] jafa: looks like the CVCC isn't helping much here
[21:00:32] jafa: "remains inside of" means DRM requried at all times
[21:02:16] jheizer: :/
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[21:48:35] gary_buhrmaster: jafa: Do you have the fcc doc reference?
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[22:09:09] gary_buhrmaster: jafa: (nevermind, found the ex-parte doc in ref to mb 16–42). This appears mostly consistent with what Fox has been doing with (for example) FiOS. They do not want to lose this when (whatever) STB replacement/alternative happens.
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[22:24:45] gary_buhrmaster: jafa: And if I am reading this correctly (which I may not be), I would expect it is likely Fox's position will hold sway here, as the next gen STB was never targeted to eliminate content restrictions imposed by the copyright holders.
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