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| [11:59:44] | stuartm: | gigem: ah, well yes, no amount of defensive programming can protect against the curse of a syntax error |
| [12:00:14] | stuartm: | (ok, not strictly true) |
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| [14:12:11] | gigem: | stuartm: Yes, though, the error message from Qt could be a little more specific. It reminds of a 1970s era Fortran compiler that also just reported 'syntax error'. It was left as en exercise for the user to then actually find the offending line themselves. |
| [14:53:19] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: re: Frontier copy protection. Well, it is *an* answer. Even if not one anyone likely wants to hear. I presume you now have to make some decisions and plans. |
| [14:54:29] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: Was not one of the (in)famous fortran error messages a IHO210I (which was a program termination because "something bad happened")? |
| [15:04:03] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: re: Frontier copy protection. And while I can foresee some "interesting" replies on -users, this actually sounds like something you might wish to share there for planning purposes by others (and I do hate it when I end up being right about these things). |
| [15:07:21] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: And (while I almost never watch sports, so I do not care that much) I found out that Comcast is only streaming those dedicated basketball/soccer channels in their markets. Showcasing their X1 boxen using non-linear programming distribution methods. |
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| [15:09:59] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: The end of linear programming on Cable (i.e. CableCARD devices) is starting to become real (even if FCC rules require support for another half dozen years or so). |
| [15:17:13] | bill6502: | dblain: please see: https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12782#comment:38 . Is there a proper solution, or do we tell Arch gcc6/Qt5.{6,7} users to use Qt5.5? |
| [15:18:17] | bill6502: | I know of 2 other indexOfClassInfo() uses that I didn't treat and don't know what else may be similar to it. |
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| [15:22:01] | gigem: | gary_buhrmaster: Yes, I am planning to share this latest news with -users. My plan is to go back to Tivo when Frontier starts locking down the existing channels that I watch. The new channels don't really interest me too much. Also, I do have one HD-PVR/STB available when needed. When everything goes streaming, the need for a traditional DVR will pretty much be gone. |
| [15:22:46] | gigem: | gary_buhrmaster: Oh, one more point regarding the locked down Olympic channels. What's the point when NBC is already streaming everything on-line? |
| [15:23:56] | gigem: | gary_buhrmaster: I don't recall running into an IHO210I error. The compiler I referenced literally just said "syntax error". |
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| [15:50:11] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: The point of the channels is so you can watch them on TV? For Comcast, you need their X1 box to watch on TV (yes, depending on your TV/etc. you can cast the stream to the TV, but some people want it watch it on the BIG SCREEN)? |
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| [15:51:52] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: That is (obviously) a guess. Trying to figure out what Comcast is actually thinking is not something I wish to invest a lot of effort in (and clearly sometimes the left hand of Mr. Roberts seems to not talk to the right hand). |
| [15:55:01] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: And as for Frontiers choice of protecting everything, well, it is (was?) the TWC way, and a lot of other cable companies. Their position was that if they have to pay(*) they wanted to restrict how you could share |
| [15:56:40] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: (*) And, while in most markets OTAs are copy-freely per one set of FCC rules, there is another set of FCC rules that allow even OTA to be marked copy-protected if the MSO is under "retransmission consent" (which means the MSO is paying). |
| [15:58:13] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: So I think there is an argument to be made to allow MSOs to even mark OTAs as copy-protected. That argument will likely happen if "a-la-carte" pricing allows customers to pick and choose channels (including OTA channels). |
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| [16:14:38] | gigem: | gary_buhrmaster: You're not telling me anything I don't already know. FWIW, my hope is that when (not if) everything goes streaming, there will be a sufficiently competitive market to give us real choices. |
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| [16:16:45] | gary_buhrmaster: | gigem: Hope springs eternal, to be dashed on the rocks below. |
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| [16:45:23] | gigem: | gary_buhrmaster: Yes, if only our politicians couldn't be bought out so easily. :( |
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| [21:13:01] | gigem: | jpabq: Have you decided anything regarding your channel problems? |
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| [21:26:06] | jpabq: | gigem: I have not had time to look at it. I ran into some other unexpected behavior with that 'recorder', so will get back to it when that is solved. Probably not until after the Olympics, though. |
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| [21:59:16] | gigem: | jpabq: Okay. |
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