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Thursday, June 2nd, 2016, 00:38 UTC
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[05:03:37] dekarl: \o/ https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/0.29/
[05:04:16] dekarl: mythtv 21 minutes ago Successfully built
[05:05:19] tgm4883: Nice
[05:07:12] dekarl: Wily isn't updated because its 15.10 and superseded by Yakkety, correct?
[05:11:02] tgm4883: Hmm
[05:11:13] tgm4883: Wily should still get builds
[05:14:35] tgm4883: Wait no you are right
[05:14:49] tgm4883: Wily got 0.27 and 0.28
[05:14:56] tgm4883: That's it
[05:17:24] dekarl: then this is wrong http://people.ubuntu.com/~tgm4883/repos-support-list.png too. lists 0.29 as supported on 15.10
[05:19:05] tgm4883: dekarl: probably due to the short time when 0.28 was released before 16.04 came out
[05:21:11] dekarl: possibly, just trying to point out that the graphic, the textual description of the rules behind it and the PPA don't match at the moment
[05:21:33] dekarl: I don't mind it being corrected into either direction
[05:23:07] dekarl: http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos still refers to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline, stuarta is the reason for disabling the timeline still present?
[05:25:22] dekarl: also still refers to http://smithers.mythbuntu.org/~autobuild/daily_mythtv.txt which is now at http://people.ubuntu.com/~tgm4883/daily_mythtv.txt
[05:46:52] dekarl: fyi the new xmltv grabber for international schedules direct listings has just been released https://sourceforge.net/p/xmltv/mailman/xmltv . . . #msg35131159 (hi rmeden)
[05:48:13] rmeden: hi dekarl! when I heard the beep I thought I screwed up the release!
[05:48:49] rmeden: looking through the changelog for the README, it's really amazing how quiet things have been... except for the new grabber anyway
[05:48:53] rmeden: no wonder it's been so long
[05:49:31] tgm4883: dekarl: png should be fixed next build. I've updated both links on the page too
[05:50:08] tgm4883: dekarl: also, we do daily builds of xmltv, so that should be automatically done
[05:58:24] dekarl: rmeden: most grabbers are moving towards proper APIs instead of wildly scraping around, that helps with stability. e.g. I wrote the _pt_meo grabber in one day because a nice API with liberal ToS was available and it has seen very little changes since then
[06:06:32] dekarl: reminds me to request removal of XMLTV from the german wikipedia as they still have all the smut on the page about being a den of ToS violaters. /me adds it to TheList
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[07:36:14] stuarta: dekarl: i have no idea why the timeline is disabled
[07:37:20] stuarta: tgm4883: question, is 0.27 still built for the previous lts?
[07:38:36] stuarta: dekarl: tbh, the wiki which referrs to it sounds massively outdated
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[07:58:37] stuarta: #12784
[07:58:37] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12784 **
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[08:18:10] stuarta: hah! the arbitrary deadline for 0.28.1 was 3 days ago.....
[08:18:17] ** stuarta changes deadline **
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[09:26:27] ** stuarta yawns **
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[09:28:31] JohnLBergqvist: Atlas seem to be now looking (At least in V3 anyway) for patterns in how often a grabber sends requests & give you a 503 for a few secs once it hits a threshold
[09:28:41] JohnLBergqvist: which borks XMLTV
[09:28:56] JohnLBergqvist: crafty beggars
[09:29:41] JohnLBergqvist: currently the grabber gets data for each channel once every second/half second. however even if I set that to say every 5 secs, it still kicks me off after 10/15 or so succesfull requests
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[09:30:48] JohnLBergqvist: but if i randomise the delay (if I get a 503 error) and then try again, it'll get the channel info
[09:30:52] stuarta: dekarl: ^^^ thoughts
[09:31:48] JohnLBergqvist: I think at the very least, someone (not me because I don't know enough perl) should convert the xmltv grabber to V4
[09:31:56] JohnLBergqvist: Honir's completely dissasppeared off the Horizon
[09:32:35] JohnLBergqvist: so its no use asking him IMO
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[09:46:02] JohnLBergqvist: was anything said in my absence?
[09:47:29] stuarta: JohnLBergqvist: nope
[09:48:04] JohnLBergqvist: ok
[09:48:30] stuarta: JohnLBergqvist: you can always review http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/
[10:00:16] JohnLBergqvist: thanks
[10:10:22] SteveGoodey: New user on the wiki!
[10:14:04] stuarta: !!!
[10:14:31] stuarta: i'd put money on that user being a spammer
[10:15:10] JohnLBergqvist: You in the UK Stuart? If so, what grabber do you use for your EPG data? EIT or one of the XMLTV ones?
[10:15:11] stuarta: wonder if we need a captcha or something
[10:15:21] stuarta: JohnLBergqvist: yes, i exclusively use EIT
[10:16:08] JohnLBergqvist: ah OK.
[10:16:26] JohnLBergqvist: I hate eit's policy of putting the first line of the description as the Subtitle :/
[10:16:38] JohnLBergqvist: yet annoyingly, it's not consistent either
[10:22:36] stuarta: writing fixups is like trying to hit a moving target
[10:23:06] stuarta: you get them working just right, and some new monkey puts them in differently, so the subtitles no longer get pulled out right
[10:31:21] stuarta: seriously, who still uses that channel icon lookup script??? clearly people do, since i see it's useragent string in the logs
[10:40:00] ** stuarta facepalms **
[10:40:16] stuarta: used -s rather than -x on my cherrypick. doh!
[10:46:48] ** stuarta encourages his backend machine to build faster **
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[11:47:55] JohnLBergqvist: which script is this? the one in the backend setup that uses lyngsat logo?
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[16:42:06] rmeden: dekarl: grabber APIs are getting more common, but that's because data sources make APIs available. It's always better to use an API vs a scraper for both the user and data source. In addition the XMLTV project doesn't accept scrapers against sites that prohibit it, which has become common.
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