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| [06:18:59] | dekarl: | stuarta, ty |
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| [07:59:17] | stuarta: | dekarl: np |
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| [09:43:49] | stuarta: | #12762 |
| [09:43:49] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12762 ** | |
| [09:44:04] | stuarta: | so lazy, can't even be arsed to scrollback to find the link |
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| [10:20:39] | ** stuarta ponders switching the rpi from nfs to iscsi based storage ** | |
| [10:24:06] | stuarta: | i really don't want to use nfsv3 if i can avoid it |
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| [10:28:34] | ** stuarta tries it just to prove a point ** | |
| [10:40:26] | stuarta: | well that was boring and exceedingly slow |
| [10:40:49] | stuarta: | time to tried wired, rather than wireless connectivity |
| [10:41:14] | stuarta: | tho that is only 100Mb/s |
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| [10:44:47] | JohnLBergqvist: | I'm getting a segfault on mythbackend (latest 0.28-fixes) whenever I load the 'recordings' page in MythWeb – I think when it generates img previews? |
| [10:46:32] | stuarta: | if you grab a backtrace we should be able to track it down |
| [10:46:57] | stuarta: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [10:53:34] | JohnLBergqvist: | just recompiling now. |
| [10:53:45] | JohnLBergqvist: | any log level/verbosity you'd like me to use? |
| [10:53:55] | JohnLBergqvist: | mythpreviewgen seems to work on its own |
| [10:54:11] | JohnLBergqvist: | although I do get OMX errors |
| [10:56:34] | stuarta: | well if you think it's going to be in mythpreviewgen, you might be able to steal the command line out of the logs and just run that |
| [10:59:39] | JohnLBergqvist: | what log level would the mythpreviewgen commands show up in the logs at? |
| [10:59:51] | stuarta: | that i dunno |
| [11:00:05] | stuarta: | but you did say the backend crashes didn't you?? |
| [11:00:10] | JohnLBergqvist: | Even so, surely if that fails, that wouldn't cause the whole mythbackend to keel over would it? |
| [11:00:17] | stuarta: | so it's not likely to be the previewgen itself |
| [11:00:19] | JohnLBergqvist: | surely it'd just move on to the next one |
| [11:01:12] | stuartm: | JohnLBergqvist: this is with a RAspberry Pi backend? |
| [11:01:42] | JohnLBergqvist: | No. |
| [11:01:56] | JohnLBergqvist: | Regular x86_64 Arch Linux install |
| [11:02:00] | JohnLBergqvist: | never had any problems so far. |
| [11:02:28] | JohnLBergqvist: | so its a bit odd. |
| [11:02:33] | JohnLBergqvist: | Perhaps it's a damaged recording? |
| [11:02:42] | JohnLBergqvist: | ill know more in a minute once it's compiled. |
| [11:04:33] | stuarta: | JohnLBergqvist: quite possibly a damaged recording, but that shouldn't take down the backend |
| [11:04:40] | JohnLBergqvist: | yeah. |
| [11:08:16] | JohnLBergqvist: | hmm, aside from recompiling mythtv with compile-type=debug, do I need to have any other stuff installed aside from gdb |
| [11:08:24] | JohnLBergqvist: | it's saying that it can't find the debugging symbols in mythbackend |
| [11:16:34] | stuartm: | though you said you had omx errors? |
| [11:17:45] | JohnLBergqvist: | in Mythpreviewgen yes |
| [11:18:05] | JohnLBergqvist: | ive got a dgb trace now, let me link that |
| [11:18:15] | stuartm: | didn't know any distros were even shipping with openmax ... except for those designed for use with the RPi |
| [11:19:05] | stuarta: | stuartm: the bellagio implementation is being shipped in quite a few |
| [11:19:19] | JohnLBergqvist: | i'm using Arch btw |
| [11:19:32] | stuartm: | huh, guess I'm behind on my reading :) |
| [11:19:46] | JohnLBergqvist: | GDB Log: http://pastebin.com/576tyhpx |
| [11:20:44] | JohnLBergqvist: | Backend Log: http://pastebin.com/EWeERj11 12:16:24 was when I visited the mythweb recordings page, whereupon the backend segfaults |
| [11:21:48] | stuarta: | interesting, it's crashed in the upnp stack |
| [11:22:45] | stuartm: | services |
| [11:23:30] | stuartm: | libupnp yes, but that's a historical artefact, it's actually in the services API |
| [11:23:44] | stuartm: | which is odd, since mythweb doesn't use the services API |
| [11:24:06] | JohnLBergqvist: | Mythpreviewgen does though? |
| [11:24:14] | JohnLBergqvist: | which mythweb calls? |
| [11:24:18] | stuartm: | no, mythpreviewgen uses the internal protocol |
| [11:24:22] | JohnLBergqvist: | oh right |
| [11:24:38] | JohnLBergqvist: | it still crashes under upnp |
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| [11:25:34] | stuartm: | missing detail of what request to the service API triggered the crash |
| [11:25:59] | JohnLBergqvist: | hmm |
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| [11:26:51] | stuartm: | -v http might help |
| [11:30:44] | JohnLBergqvist: | this is before it segfaults: 2016-05–10 12:29:10.437561 I [27294/27352] HttpServer74 servicehost.cpp:314 (ProcessRequest) – ServiceHost::ProcessRequest: GetPreviewImage : GET /Content/GetPreviewImage?ChanId=9931&StartTime=2016-05–09T21%3A58%3A00 &Height=56&Width=100& |
| [11:33:54] | JohnLBergqvist: | yes, its crashing when the preview is generated in the internal webserver too |
| [11:35:53] | JohnLBergqvist: | if i try to access: BACKEND_IP:6544/Content/GetPreviewImage?ChanId=9931&StartTime=2016-05– 09T21%3A58%3A00&Height=56&Width=100& |
| [11:35:56] | JohnLBergqvist: | it'll crash. |
| [11:37:06] | JohnLBergqvist: | although interesting there are previews generated for it in the filesystem :/ |
| [11:37:11] | JohnLBergqvist: | which weren't there before |
| [11:40:01] | JohnLBergqvist: | This is what happens when I run mythpreviewgen on that file. |
| [11:40:01] | JohnLBergqvist: | http://pastebin.com/3yy09pfK |
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| [11:42:19] | JohnLBergqvist: | so it generates the preview image, yet then segfaults |
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| [11:52:48] | JohnLBergqvist: | trying it on other files which I know have worked before and it's still crashing :/ |
| [11:55:16] | stuarta: | doh |
| [11:56:52] | JohnLBergqvist: | now i'm worried i've changed something without realising it -_- |
| [11:58:18] | JohnLBergqvist: | any ideas before I reformat? :( |
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| [12:01:55] | JohnLBergqvist: | The preview generation appears to be working fine within mythfrontend itself |
| [12:02:19] | JohnLBergqvist: | but of course it generates them at a different size to either mythweb or the internal web server, so it's not really a workaround for now. |
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| [12:12:06] | JohnLBergqvist: | Aha! I've fixed it. |
| [12:12:30] | JohnLBergqvist: | An upgrade of qt5-base from 5.6.0–4 -> 5.6.0–5 casued the problem. |
| [12:12:38] | JohnLBergqvist: | Rolling back has got rid of it. |
| [12:13:30] | JohnLBergqvist: | stuarta & stuartm rolling back from qt5-base 5.6.0–5 to 5.6.0–4 has fixed the problem for me. |
| [12:21:04] | stuartm: | ok, so mythweb uses the services API to get the preview image, I'd forgotten that |
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| [12:22:34] | JohnLBergqvist: | It happens in the internal webserver too. |
| [12:23:12] | JohnLBergqvist: | but yeah, it's definitely the upgrade to qt5 base that's caused the segfault. |
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| [12:28:05] | JohnLBergqvist: | According to the arch repository, the change from -4 to -5 is "Rebuild against GCC6": https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.g . . . 5e6b311bb4c3 |
| [12:40:30] | stuarta: | ugh, so it's either a qt5–6 issue, or a gcc6 issue |
| [12:40:50] | stuarta: | JohnLBergqvist: i assume you had done a complete distclean before the rebuild? |
| [12:43:12] | JohnLBergqvist: | yes. |
| [12:44:14] | JohnLBergqvist: | I think it's a gcc6 issue, as (as far as I can tell), the qt5.6 source hasn't changed since 5.6–4 (which is working fine for me) |
| [12:44:46] | JohnLBergqvist: | Occacsionally, a -n increment will have applied patches to it, but not this time it seems |
| [12:45:14] | JohnLBergqvist: | https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.g . . . ges/qt5-base |
| [12:45:18] | JohnLBergqvist: | That's the history |
| [12:45:26] | stuarta: | so then the question becomes, can it be narrowed down to a bit of sample code |
| [12:45:28] | JohnLBergqvist: | the previous one (13 days ago) is v4. |
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| [13:32:34] | stuarta: | iscsi based storage is definitely the way to go on the rpi. 3x faster than nfs just to run configure |
| [13:34:35] | jheizer: | wow |
| [13:36:08] | stuarta: | now for bonus points i might setup multipathing via both eth0 and wlan0 |
| [13:36:18] | jheizer: | I tried doing a local cache on the sd card in front of the nfs share, but it very little effect |
| [13:36:31] | stuarta: | my nfs performance was horrible |
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| [14:03:27] | stuarta: | sigh, it would be nice if it did actually build tho :( |
| [14:06:42] | ** stuarta tries with profile build ** | |
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| [14:17:58] | jheizer: | stuarta, where's it getting stuck now? |
| [14:18:51] | stuarta: | there's an impossible asm constraint in one of the ffmpeg libs when building in debug mode, so far it looks like it's proceeding past that point in a profile build |
| [14:23:03] | jheizer: | huh weird. I never hit that. |
| [14:23:51] | stuarta: | you might have a different compiler |
| [14:23:59] | stuarta: | gcc version 4.9.2 (Raspbian 4.9.2–10) |
| [14:24:20] | jheizer: | same |
| [14:24:45] | jheizer: | happen to have still been logged into it from checking on nfs vs cifs |
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| [14:27:23] | dekarl-work: | jheizer, stuarta: did you test with splitting the src/obj onto one storage (network) and the ccache on another (local sdcard) to speed up compiles? |
| [14:28:07] | stuarta: | nope |
| [14:28:19] | dekarl-work: | fwiw (looking at -users) wifi appears to be attached to sdio, not usb |
| [14:29:09] | stuarta: | but jheizer mentioned above he did, and it made naff all difference |
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| [14:30:10] | jheizer: | I didn't specifically move ccache anywhere, but set cachefilesd in front of the nfs share with enough space to cache basically it all |
| [14:30:44] | stuarta: | i could have left ccache on the sd card, but wanted it off to save on wear and tear |
| [14:31:54] | jheizer: | all this pi does besides the builder is read from the 1-wire interface every 5 minutes so really I don't care how slow, busy, or wasted time it wastes. |
| [14:32:03] | jheizer: | Just that must go faster mentality |
| [14:33:18] | peterbennett: | stuarta: In My opinion you need to use an external drive for the whole filesystem to get reasonable performance |
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| [14:33:48] | stuarta: | peterbennett: i might get that far one day. at the moment the $0 solution is iscsi |
| [14:33:57] | jheizer: | I had wanted to run the same build on my 2 and 3 just to see what real difference there was |
| [14:34:08] | jheizer: | but since it refused to boot with that sd card I've left it alone |
| [14:34:43] | jheizer: | probably take 20 years on the 1 |
| [14:34:49] | stuarta: | jheizer: btw, that buildslave appears offline atm?? |
| [14:35:59] | ** stuarta insults dekarl-work's freebsd11 arm builder as vapourware.... ** | |
| [14:36:02] | jheizer: | ah, fixed. Forgot to restart the build slave after fiddling with it the other day. I never got it to properly start the buildslave script on boot. |
| [14:36:08] | stuarta: | :) |
| [14:36:24] | stuarta: | that'll keep it busy for a few hours |
| [14:36:46] | jheizer: | I should probably upgrade it too. Haven't in a while |
| [14:37:13] | stuarta: | i've done an os level upgrade, just no firmware or anything like that |
| [14:39:05] | dekarl-work: | stuarta, didn't have time to start over and regular new reports of others having the same issue lowered the priority :( https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-a . . . /013813.html |
| [14:39:37] | stuarta: | yeah that doesn't bode well |
| [14:39:46] | stuarta: | the fedora instructions aren't much better |
| [14:40:02] | peterbennett: | stuarta: git clean, configure, make on my raspberry pi 2 takes about 10 mins |
| [14:40:20] | peterbennett: | stuarta: (once the cache is loaded up the first time) |
| [14:40:25] | stuarta: | take this blob, mangle it onto your card, then go grab the kernel from raspian, and put that in here and fiddle a bit more and then, fingers crossed, it should boot |
| [14:40:29] | jheizer: | yeah the above is what all my current sd cards were doing on the 3 |
| [14:40:52] | stuarta: | oh cool, i'm in the "first build" stage to prime ccache |
| [14:40:57] | jheizer: | the one card there wasn't even green light activity of any kind |
| [14:41:42] | dekarl-work: | the compile itself is not the most time consuming part of the build... https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . 2/builds/134 |
| [14:42:31] | dekarl-work: | 6 minutes for copying git trees around, 30 minutes running the unit tests, total time 71 minutes |
| [14:42:48] | stuarta: | yeah wonder why |
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| [14:49:17] | stuarta: | wondering if i should have gone higher than -j2 |
| [14:49:51] | peterbennett: | stuarta: I use -j4 |
| [14:50:08] | jheizer: | 4 once in a blue moon I errored out |
| [14:50:08] | dekarl-work: | jheizer: funny, the last for build on my rpi2 finished in half the time https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.2 . . . hf/builds/57 using NFS without special optimizations |
| [14:50:12] | stuarta: | i wasn't sure if i'd max out the memory too much |
| [14:50:13] | jheizer: | 3 was never a problem |
| [14:50:34] | stuarta: | ah well it's ticking along nicely |
| [14:50:48] | peterbennett: | I also upped the swap space on the hard drive |
| [14:51:10] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: If you have interest in a Fedora F24 (beta) 64 bit builder, PM me the password (and the name, but I presume it would likely be "garyb-f24–64bit") and I'll try to get it up later today (my time, which means tomorrow to you). |
| [14:51:18] | jheizer: | I dropped the nfs cache. Figured if it wasn't helping that much it wasn'tworth the effort. |
| [14:51:19] | dekarl-work: | stuarta: just make sure you have the updated irqbalance and let it run with -j3 without issues. -j4 might work, I'm not sure I retested |
| [14:51:35] | stuarta: | dekarl-work: done all the os updates |
| [14:52:43] | dekarl-work: | the amount of possible parallelism is influenced by the amount of gpu memory IIUIC |
| [14:53:09] | jheizer: | geez it has been updating wolfram-engine for ages |
| [14:53:19] | stuarta: | indeed, went for 256M, but suspect that may be excessive |
| [14:54:08] | stuarta: | io is definitely *not* the issue, it's definitely cpu bound |
| [14:54:13] | peterbennett: | stuarta: I use 128M. That works for HD playback with MythTV, and gives enough left over for compiles |
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| [14:54:29] | stuarta: | peterbennett: thanks, i'll tweak that for the next reboot |
| [14:54:29] | jheizer: | compile must being killing the I/O |
| [14:55:05] | stuarta: | jheizer: on yours? |
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| [14:55:10] | jheizer: | yeah |
| [14:55:19] | jheizer: | I'm stuck at 77% [125 wolfram-engine 229 MB/236 MB 97%] |
| [14:55:51] | jheizer: | oh, there it got 1 more MB. via 100mbps internet |
| [14:57:00] | jheizer: | Did they finally address all these I/O issues on the pi3? I bought it but didn't read all that much in detail yet. |
| [14:57:53] | stuarta: | i've not really been paying attention, but afaik, it's improved on the 3 |
| [14:58:41] | jheizer: | 77% [128 wolfram-engine 231 MB/236 MB 98%] |
| [14:58:56] | jheizer: | 1MB/1.5Minutes |
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| [15:04:00] | jheizer: | A bit more on topic, I've been having some scheduler/live tv/recorder weirdness lately. If I have 3 tuners that all have the same set of channels. If 1 is recording, 1 is watching live tv, and a recording was previously scheduled to take place on the now busy live tv tuner, what is the expected out come? |
| [15:04:16] | stuarta: | ENORECORD |
| [15:04:34] | jheizer: | Auto reschedule to the 3rd tuner, or the pop up saying something is going to use this tuner, watch, cancel menu? |
| [15:04:40] | stuarta: | that's why there is that option i can never remember to set which tuner is used first for livetv |
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| [15:05:45] | jheizer: | Lately the outcome is tuning errors displaying via the mythcontext (I believe) popups saying timeout tunig what I assume is the same tuner. |
| [15:07:37] | jheizer: | Same some times if I am watching live and nothing is recording, then 7:00 hits and 3 things want to record. Some times I get the pop up, other times I get the timeouts. |
| [15:09:40] | dekarl-work: | jheizer: do you get one or two copies of the popup? I get two but never got down to figuring out if its just me and why its happening |
| [15:09:43] | gary_buhrmaster: | I believe the option you are thinking of is the Schedule Order vs LiveTV Order. Typically one increments one and decrements the other. |
| [15:10:10] | jheizer: | dekarl-work, I do get 2 copies of the timeout popup yes |
| [15:11:16] | jheizer: | I thought at first maybe it was related to #10043 and one trying to grab the tuner before the other released, but still not getting a popup menu asking seems to say now. That and it appears not to be in .28/fixes |
| [15:11:16] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10043 ** | |
| [15:14:08] | dekarl-work: | oh noes 10043... need another hdhr for the nice solution to that one |
| [15:14:30] | dekarl-work: | reminds me that H.EVC via DVB-T2 is hitting air around here in 3 weeks |
| [15:14:52] | dekarl-work: | and its 1080p finally :) |
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| [15:18:30] | dekarl-work: | ohhh, the rpi3 got a beefier GPU that does H.EVC at up to 1080p30? But I guess we're getting 1080p50. /me wanders off to check |
| [15:22:47] | jheizer: | So hard to test. First time I just did it, it popped up the menu as you'd expect. |
| [15:23:00] | peterbennett: | Why does the 0.28 backend display messages Loading themes for 0.28.61 Failed to download http://themes.mythtv.org/themes/repository/0.28.61/themes.zip remote themes info package. |
| [15:23:00] | jheizer: | The second time it just changed the channel on the frontend without warning. |
| [15:23:14] | peterbennett: | It displays that for every number from 61 down to 1 |
| [15:24:26] | peterbennett: | 61 sets of information messages |
| [15:25:55] | dekarl-work: | peterbennett: sounds like a parse error in the version string... last tag 0.28 plus 61 commits since then? |
| [15:26:15] | JohnLBergqvist: | btw, should mythtv 0.28 playback HEVC-encoded video now? |
| [15:26:32] | JohnLBergqvist: | and if so, what resolution is the max it'll support with HEVC, 4k? or just 1080? |
| [15:33:25] | peterbennett: | dekarl-work: Yes my version is 0.28-61-g5af4b41–0 – why would this cause that? |
| [15:33:27] | dekarl-work: | peterbennett: hmm, only 22 commits to fixes/0.28 since the tag. https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/v0.28...fixes/0.28 or do you have 39 local commits pending? then it could be that (whats your version string?) |
| [15:34:13] | peterbennett: | MythTV Version : v0.28-61-g5af4b41 |
| [15:34:33] | peterbennett: | dekarl-work: I am building off my own repository |
| [15:35:41] | dekarl-work: | I think the answer is around here https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . ser.cpp#L202 |
| [15:36:55] | dekarl-work: | its parsing MYTH_SOURCE_VERSION using an unescaped "." |
| [15:37:08] | peterbennett: | dekarl-work: Maybe a bug? |
| [15:37:47] | dekarl-work: | v0.28-61-g5af4b41 vs. "v[0–9]+.[0–9]+.([0–9]+)-*" |
| [15:38:06] | dekarl-work: | that regexp is funny |
| [15:38:52] | stuarta: | it'll capture the 61 |
| [15:38:57] | peterbennett: | I wonder why the backend loads themes at all. I think it should be the frontend. |
| [15:39:21] | stuarta: | to have them available for all frontends? |
| [15:39:28] | dekarl-work: | exactly, but that's part of the bug |
| [15:39:36] | stuarta: | i think that was the original intent |
| [15:40:18] | dekarl-work: | nah, the regexp doesn't make sense. its writting in one syntax but feed to an engine that uses another syntax :) |
| [15:41:00] | dekarl-work: | "v[0–9]+.[0–9]+.([0–9]+)-*" should be "v[0–9]+\.[0–9]+(\.[0–9]+)-" or "v[0–9]+\.[0–9]+(\.[0–9]+)-.*" |
| [15:41:28] | peterbennett: | According to the comment The code is expecting version number like 0.25.20101017–1 but that is specific to mythbuntu |
| [15:41:30] | dekarl-work: | well, almost. the last point should be outside the capture group |
| [15:41:55] | dekarl-work: | peterbennett: thats the binary version, but the third part of the version comes from the source version |
| [15:42:26] | dekarl-work: | At least I'm not the only one that gets confused by that magic version mixing and matching beast |
| [15:42:56] | peterbennett: | I will write a ticket. |
| [15:43:46] | dekarl-work: | MYTH_BINARY_VERSION; // Example: 0.25.20101017–1 and MYTH_SOURCE_VERSION v0.28-61-g5af4b41 |
| [15:44:51] | dekarl-work: | a copy of that code is also in the backend https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . per.cpp#L366 |
| [15:45:06] | dekarl-work: | a ticket with a unit test and refactoring would be nice :) |
| [15:46:28] | stuarta: | dekarl-work: :-p |
| [15:46:40] | ** stuarta throws some random bits from the bit bucket at dekarl-work ** | |
| [15:46:42] | JohnLBergqvist: | It would be nice if some stuff (like recording pre & post roll) could be moved to the backend setup, instead of the frontend setup. |
| [15:46:50] | peterbennett: | So what is the binary version? Is this it? Library API : 0.28.20160309–1 |
| [15:46:52] | JohnLBergqvist: | cos it kinda makes headless operation a pain then. |
| [15:47:11] | stuarta: | JohnLBergqvist: that sort of thing is a target for webfrontend |
| [15:48:02] | dekarl-work: | JohnLBergqvist: are you thinking about the "hardware issue workaround" or the "some slack for the broadcaster"? The latter has been moved to recording rule templates |
| [15:49:03] | JohnLBergqvist: | well generally there's a pre & post-roll setup for all recordings in the Frontend setup |
| [15:49:13] | dekarl-work: | and the former has been abused in the past to achieve the latter but doesn't work for back-to-back recordings |
| [15:49:30] | JohnLBergqvist: | but surely if that's applied to all recordings, shouldn't that be in the backend setup |
| [15:50:18] | JohnLBergqvist: | I mean the Setup->Video->General (Advanced) page in the frontend. |
| [15:50:35] | JohnLBergqvist: | specifically that page only i think. |
| [15:50:58] | JohnLBergqvist: | Also, the General (Auto-Expire) page too. |
| [15:52:35] | JohnLBergqvist: | Oh and the 'Global recording priorities' pages |
| [15:52:51] | dekarl-work: | I totally agree that setup needs some love. But I don't see how moving stuff around between different gui applications helps there. (e.g. from global settings in the frontend to global settings in mythtv-setup) |
| [15:53:15] | JohnLBergqvist: | My point was: They are global settings, that have nothing to do with the frontend per se, as they apply to the backend. |
| [15:53:23] | JohnLBergqvist: | So they should be in the backend setup. |
| [15:54:10] | peterbennett: | There are many settings in the frontend that are global. |
| [15:54:27] | dekarl-work: | so we have global system settings, global backend settings, per backend settings, global frontend settings and per frontend settings spread out across 5 places? doesn't help in my opinion :) |
| [15:54:56] | JohnLBergqvist: | Well the Global system settings, global backend settings & per backend settings should only be in the backend-setup |
| [15:55:04] | JohnLBergqvist: | NOT the frontend. |
| [15:55:07] | dekarl-work: | JohnLBergqvist: mythtv-setup must die (in favor of webfrontend or frontend setup of the whole system) |
| [15:55:25] | JohnLBergqvist: | OK. |
| [15:55:57] | dekarl-work: | step one would be to finish the conversion of the setting to mythui though. how is that coming along? |
| [15:56:19] | peterbennett: | Probably best to put all in frontend setup but identify what is global and what is local. |
| [15:56:34] | stuarta: | dekarl-work: remove all depreciated code and see what breaks ;-P |
| [15:57:14] | dekarl-work: | personally I'd love to see a freenas plugin of mythtv and similar integrations. we're almost there (the usual 80% is done, now lets do the other 80% project :) |
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| [15:58:51] | JohnLBergqvist: | Why should it be in the frontend setup if it's to do with the backend though? |
| [15:58:54] | JohnLBergqvist: | that's crazy then... |
| [15:59:03] | JohnLBergqvist: | why bother to have a separate backend & frontend if you're going to do it like that? |
| [15:59:35] | stuarta: | JohnLBergqvist: a lot of it's legacy and needs a good tidy up |
| [16:01:09] | JohnLBergqvist: | true |
| [16:01:40] | JohnLBergqvist: | I seem to recall some stuff was moved from the frontend to the backend setup when it went to either 0.27 or 0.28 |
| [16:02:18] | JohnLBergqvist: | brb |
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| [16:02:55] | dekarl-work: | JohnLBergqvist: it's all confusing terminology. how do you call it when there is a daemon running (aka mythbackend) and the user fiddling with the setting via a gui in an interactive program (be it a browser, mythtv-setup or a custom installer talking to the service api like in the old OSX demo on youtube). |
| [16:04:11] | dekarl-work: | note to self for later wrt settings/mythui: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tree/devel/mythui/settings https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/FeatureRoadmap |
| [16:05:13] | dekarl-work: | got to run, see you later |
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| [18:50:59] | stuartm: | fwiw, I agree that recording related settings should all be in the backend |
| [18:51:07] | stuartm: | makes no sense having them in the frontend |
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| [20:06:46] | stuarta: | hmmm, -j3 might not have been the best idea, it's consumed all the swap on the rpi |
| [20:07:38] | ** stuarta downgrades to -j2 ** | |
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| [20:15:43] | stuarta: | oops, there goes the swap again |
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| [20:18:38] | dekarl: | stuarta, is that something special (as in additional configure options), like a debug build? |
| [20:20:03] | dekarl: | I don't even have swap configured and run -j3 for a long time |
| [20:30:18] | stuarta: | profile build |
| [20:30:25] | stuarta: | no special options either |
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