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| [01:42:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | I'm not sure if there was significant improvements in the dlna support between 0.27.4 and current or the new tv made the difference but it is soooo much better now, if the myth devs had anything to do with it I owe the responspible party(ies?) a beer or three |
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| [06:49:54] | dekarl: | Hydr0p0nX: hint https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.28#Major_Changes |
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| [10:58:02] | stuarta: | and the questions on the rPi3 start |
| [11:03:57] | dekarl: | I already saw power-draw-per-computation-power ratings stating that its on par with the old rpi2. even though there is no OS/toolchain out yet that actually targets the chip in 64bit mode ;) |
| [11:07:12] | Roklobotomy: | not even in the 5 series? |
| [11:07:20] | Roklobotomy: | err gcc 5? |
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| [11:21:35] | dekarl: | quoting from https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/ "At launch, we are using the same 32-bit Raspbian userland that we use on other Raspberry Pi devices; over the next few months we will investigate whether there is value in moving to 64-bit mode." |
| [11:22:31] | dekarl: | I'm missing the information about "also 32bit kernel so you can't build your stuff as 64bit, too" |
| [11:23:23] | stuarta: | somebody will do it before they do |
| [11:23:26] | dekarl: | down around https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi . . . ment-1253895 |
| [11:23:47] | stuarta: | i'm tempted to buy one, but i have plenty of other stuff to work on first |
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| [11:26:05] | Roklobotomy: | a quick google shows arm64 has been supported by gcc since 2012 |
| [11:26:07] | dekarl: | I'm wondering what happened to the good old 64bit kernel with 32bit userland concept. did everyone forget that? ;) |
| [11:26:23] | jmcentee: | after some gets the 64-bit working, the next person is going to put zfs on it. |
| [11:26:39] | Roklobotomy: | i just want wider operands. |
| [11:26:41] | stuarta: | Roklobotomy: thanks, i was pretty sure the kernel and toolchain support it |
| [11:27:57] | Roklobotomy: | given the usable address space of the rpi3 is very small and 64 bit addresses are useless, it's the wide data loads and stores that will be very helpful. |
| [11:29:28] | Roklobotomy: | well I don't know what's going on here. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/14.04/release/ |
| [11:29:36] | Roklobotomy: | arm64 is there |
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| [11:31:06] | jmcentee: | Roklobotomy: Buy one and give it a try? |
| [11:31:19] | dekarl: | some bits hooking up the boot loader and 64bit cpu init might be all it takes, I guess people will like it |
| [11:31:42] | Roklobotomy: | i just bought a pine damnit |
| [11:31:46] | stuarta: | hmmm, freebsd10 build failed, unsurprising, but not where it was reported in the forums |
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| [11:44:04] | jmcentee: | Roklobotomy: depends on your use I imaged you may like the gigbit ethernet and the 2GB of rAM if you bought htat one. |
| [11:45:13] | jmcentee: | but for Mythfrontend you will have some coding to do. |
| [11:48:52] | blah_: | jmcentee: i did buy the 2gb/gige one |
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| [12:17:46] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: well thanks, it's been a while since anyone offered me a beer :) |
| [12:20:21] | stuartm: | the issue with 64bit on the RPi will probably relate to the custom drivers which AFAIK they are still having to provide for full support of chipset features |
| [12:20:54] | stuartm: | i.e. they need to make sure those build and work properly in a 64bit arm environment? |
| [12:22:52] | stuartm: | then there's the question of memory usage, a mixed 64/32bit userspace will require more memory which is an issue on a memory constrained device |
| [13:08:16] | stuarta: | hrm, interesting build failure in the plugins for freebsd.... |
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| [13:36:44] | stuarta: | so that's the problem "Without :: clang confuses C bind function and std::bind()" |
| [13:57:19] | stuarta: | horrible number of warnings in the freebsd10 build from clang |
| [14:27:45] | stuarta: | and the new openssl security release is out |
| [14:28:46] | stuarta: | and with a stupid name for the latest vuln "DROWN" |
| [14:29:00] | stuartm: | the weekly openssl security release ... |
| [14:34:55] | stuartm: | looks like we're not affected, you need to be using SSLv2 which we explicitly disable |
| [14:44:10] | MythBuild: | build #1479 of master-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1479 |
| [14:44:26] | stuarta: | \o/ hurrah, victory |
| [14:50:24] | stuarta: | DROWN – Decrypting RSA using Obsolete and Weakened eNcryption. |
| [14:50:28] | ** stuarta facepalms ** | |
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| [14:56:33] | dekarl-work: | \o/ it builds, mind to install multimedia/webcamd and multimedia/libcec? |
| [14:57:52] | stuarta: | webcamd??? |
| [14:59:27] | stuarta: | oh some basic dvb/usb stuff |
| [14:59:35] | dekarl-work: | aye, and maybe multimedia/libvdpau |
| [15:00:04] | stuarta: | and libva libv4l |
| [15:00:06] | dekarl-work: | IIRC webcamd is inherited from the time when it was about getting V4L webcam drivers running |
| [15:01:29] | dekarl-work: | hmm, had another idea... in principle everything should be listed here https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/multime . . . ;view=markup |
| [15:02:05] | dekarl-work: | nicer format: http://www.freshports.org/multimedia/mythtv/ |
| [15:10:22] | jmcentee: | from http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/ . . . k-drown.html |
| [15:10:23] | jmcentee: | And then there's the special case of OpenSSL, which helpfully provides a configuration option that's intended to disable SSLv2 ciphersuites — but which, unfortunately, does no such thing. In the course of their work, the DROWN researchers discovered that even when this option is set, clients may still request arbitrary SSLv2 ciphersuites. (This issue was quietly patched in January. Upgrade.) |
| [15:12:21] | jmcentee: | both www.mythtv.org and www.mythtv.org/wiki/main_page are fine though |
| [15:12:36] | jmcentee: | according to https://test.drownattack.com |
| [15:12:40] | stuarta: | jmcentee: yeah, we've had sslv2 disabled for ages |
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| [15:13:41] | jmcentee: | yes but disabling sslv2 in openssl was not enough. |
| [15:13:55] | jmcentee: | if you are using openssl. |
| [15:36:17] | stuarta: | dekarl-work: trying without webcamd, as that needs full kernel sources to install properly |
| [15:39:06] | dekarl-work: | stuarta, hmm, we don't find libcec, the rest appears to be found |
| [15:39:46] | dekarl-work: | if you're curious you could fire up sendProfile.py and see how far it gets (I have that on my list, too) |
| [15:40:15] | stuarta: | hah |
| [15:40:30] | stuarta: | i'm filing that under "smolt porting" |
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| [15:43:23] | MythBuild: | build #1480 of master-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1480 |
| [15:44:42] | stuarta: | i can see why linux/ioctl.h wouldn't be found on freebsd... |
| [15:47:09] | stuarta: | this stuff has pkg-config stuff to make it easy to find |
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| [15:53:18] | stuarta: | and we don't use it |
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| [15:53:57] | stuartm: | there was a ticket open about the build breaking with older kernels related to ioctl.h |
| [15:54:08] | stuarta: | ooo err |
| [15:54:44] | stuartm: | and we do use it, if only indirectly in John's capture card related improvements |
| [15:54:47] | dekarl-work: | hmm, here are the ioctl headers (package description from Makefile) https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports/blob . . . at/pkg-plist |
| [15:54:56] | stuarta: | that needs installing |
| [15:55:33] | stuarta: | it's in the list from the mythtv ports requirements |
| [16:37:48] | stuarta: | jpabq: what problem were you fixing by including our own copy of videodev2.h?? it breaks the freebsd build because they have their own linux/videodev2.h which works with freebsd, as ours is the linux version, it all breaks |
| [16:38:16] | stuarta: | jpabq: see https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . e/logs/stdio |
| [16:39:09] | jpabq: | stuarta: that was to fix the OSX build. |
| [16:39:28] | stuarta: | hah |
| [16:40:43] | jpabq: | OSX does not include it at all. Unfortunately, there are things besides DEFINES in there, so it is hard to check if they have already been /defined/ |
| [16:41:26] | stuarta: | i think it needs some work on the configure side maybe? |
| [16:41:39] | jpabq: | I can try to re-work the code to avoid using that stuff, but I doubt I will have time before this weekend. |
| [16:41:47] | jpabq: | stuarta: maybe |
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| [16:46:10] | stuarta: | hah, that configure change seems to have fixed libcec detection on freebsd |
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| [16:49:34] | jpabq: | stuarta: Can we assume freebsd will always have V4L2 installed? Or do we need to have two copies of videodev2.h — one for linux and one for freebsd? |
| [16:51:35] | stuarta: | jpabq: there's a v4l_compat package which provides it, so assume it has it |
| [16:51:42] | stuarta: | well check for it's existence |
| [16:51:51] | stuarta: | which is probably what we need to do for osx |
| [16:52:00] | stuarta: | not found -> disable v4l2 |
| [16:52:41] | jpabq: | We would still need our own copy of videodev2.h since there is no way to check what version of V4L2 is available. |
| [16:52:46] | stuarta: | v4l2util.h goes back to including linux/videodev2.h and configure needs to check for it |
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| [19:24:44] | dekarl: | Anybody mind to add "dvb_eitscan" to the options in the HDHR configuration screen? I've never fiddled with that area before https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10043#comment:22 |
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| [20:54:35] | jheizer: | Get faster internet, lose ipv6. because comcast |
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| [21:27:17] | stuarta: | jheizer: booooo hisss. i love my native ipv6 |
| [21:28:19] | jheizer: | it makes no sense. I get an ipv6 address and everything, just nothing going out routes to anywhere. |
| [21:28:44] | jheizer: | No idea how a speed chnage could mess it up. Same address and all. Rebooted everything, etc. |
| [21:29:13] | stuarta: | raise a support case, they've messed something up in the profile change |
| [21:29:28] | stuarta: | probably forgot to inject the route from the LNS |
| [21:30:40] | stuarta: | right, now to abuse configure for v4l2 |
| [21:30:48] | jheizer: | Yeah, when I finishing working going to try shutting everything down and bringing things up one by one just to make sure it is not on my end before I attempt to talk to them. |
| [21:31:00] | jheizer: | Because we know that'll be fun |
| [21:31:30] | stuarta: | yeah :( |
| [21:33:41] | stuarta: | jpabq: looking at the logs, we are including our own videodev2.h for older kernels, not for other platforms. lets get it to build across the different platforms, then identify what's missing from the older installations and add those back |
| [21:33:53] | stuarta: | jpabq: i'll make some changes now and see how it goes |
| [21:35:34] | jpabq: | stuarta: right, unfortunately, V4L2 offers no mechanism to check what version is installed. The V4L2 devs are the ones who told me the 'correct' solution is for the app to include its own copy of videodev2.h |
| [21:36:25] | stuarta: | jpabq: i'm pretty sure I know how to do it. include the system header first, then later add our own header, which only defines the bits we need if they are missing |
| [21:39:43] | jpabq: | Can you do that? How do you figure out that a enum is missing? |
| [21:41:43] | stuarta: | i'm sure we can find a way. worst case, just redfine the enum |
| [21:43:17] | stuarta: | the main issue is the including of the various system header which breaks the other builds |
| [21:46:45] | stuarta: | #12615 |
| [21:46:45] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12615 ** | |
| [21:47:33] | stuarta: | jpabq: for reference, the above ticket has the exact same error i see on freebsd |
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| [21:55:17] | jpabq: | stuarta: if we didn't want to support V4L2 at all on freebsd, the simple solution would just be to undef v4l2 for that os. I assume we want to support V4L2 there, though. |
| [21:56:20] | stuarta: | i've pushed a change which should allow it to build. it's osx and older installs that need cross checking |
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| [22:05:02] | MythBuild: | build #443 of master-debian-jessie-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/443 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@mythtv.org > |
| [22:05:10] | stuarta: | \o/ |
| [22:06:04] | MythBuild: | build #426 of master-ubuntu-lts-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/426 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@mythtv.org > |
| [22:07:23] | stuartm: | ok it will build ... just everything else that won't ;) |
| [22:07:37] | stuarta: | hah |
| [22:11:53] | stuarta: | time for some platform specific ifdefs |
| [22:12:08] | stuartm: | yup :/ |
| [22:13:22] | MythBuild: | build #95 of master-debian-jessie-rpi2 is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . i2/builds/95 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@mythtv.org > |
| [22:13:39] | MythBuild: | build #115 of master-ubuntu-lts-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . f/builds/115 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@mythtv.org > |
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| [22:16:25] | MythBuild: | build #820 of master-centos7–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/820 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@mythtv.org > |
| [22:17:51] | stuarta: | so it didn't actually fix the freebsd build |
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| [22:22:10] | MythBuild: | build #393 of master-debian-jessie-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/393 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@mythtv.org > |
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| [23:07:04] | dekarl: | that was quick http://www.liymo.com/mc-odroid/hardkernel-odroid-c2 |
| [23:07:54] | dekarl: | "available from March 2016" though |
| [23:08:49] | stuarta: | that's today ;-) |
| [23:09:55] | stuarta: | sigh, come on buildbot, start rebuilding everything |
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| [23:10:58] | dekarl: | doh, time to hit sack methinks ;) |
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| [23:31:33] | stuarta: | i'm coming to the conclusion that the freebsd v4l2 support isn't up to scratch |
| [23:40:34] | Roklobotomy: | are you surprised? |
| [23:41:00] | stuarta: | not really, no |
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