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Tuesday, February 16th, 2016, 00:04 UTC
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[00:38:01] enyc: hrrrrrrrrrrrm
[00:38:05] enyc: { test -z "" || cd ""; } && test $(gdb --version | sed -e 's,[^0–9][^0–9]*\([0–9]\)\.\([0–9]\).*,\1\2,;q') -gt 72 && gdb --nx --batch --quiet -ex 'set confirm off' -ex "save gdb-index ." -ex quit 'libmythservicecontracts-0.27.so.0.27.0' && test -f libmythservicecontracts-0.27.so.0.27.0.gdb-index && objcopy --add-section '.gdb_index=libmythservicecontracts-0.27.so.0.27.0.gdb-index' --set-section-flags '.gdb_in
[00:38:11] enyc: dex=readonly' 'libmythservicecontracts-0.27.so.0.27.0' 'libmythservicecontracts-0.27.so.0.27.0' && rm -f libmythservicecontracts-0.27.so.0.27.0.gdb-index || true
[00:38:29] enyc: this suggests, some uses of gdb were intentionally optional — the || true on the end!
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[01:08:49] enyc: creating debugging symbols or similar
[01:09:20] enyc: still, looks like it may be correct to add build-dependency on "gdb-minimal | gdb" for *consistency* in builds
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[07:10:11] enyc: dekarl, stuarta: r.e. copyrightscan/license-check .. see comments and outputs in both:-
[07:10:21] enyc: http://sarth.leyondar.co.uk:8080/copyrightcheck-fixes027/
[07:10:30] enyc: http://sarth.leyondar.co.uk:8080/copyrightcheck-master/
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[08:12:59] dekarl: enyc: how does that work will all out embedded subtrees? e.g. I'd expect to write one file per theme, that gets "included" in the main file?
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[08:37:28] dekarl: enyc: I just looked at the packaging tree, it contains mythtv.git, mythweb.git and the mythbuntu theme. For e.g. the Myhtbuntu theme it would be nice to have the license list stored together with the actula theme in its repo, so it gets a chance of being kept up to date by persons who change the theme. If we store the license information and the files that its about in different repos with different accesses its unlikely to be kept up to date ;)
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[08:52:15] stuarta: morning all
[08:56:09] stuartm: g'morning
[08:56:26] stuarta: hmmm, might be time for another merge to beta/0.28, but looks like bill pushed a "feature" thing last night
[08:57:43] stuarta: or is that bug fix as well
[08:57:58] stuarta: https://git.io/vg7fT
[08:59:36] stuarta: definitely bug fix "EPG in webfrontend didn't display any programs"
[09:00:26] stuarta: stuartm: btw. where does the guide in the backend webserver get it's idea of sorting from?
[09:00:49] stuarta: i have mine set to sort by channum, so i get bbc 1, 2, itv, ch4, five etc
[09:01:06] stuarta: yet it starts on fix, then has bbc three
[09:01:12] stuarta: s/fix/five
[09:01:26] stuartm: channum ...
[09:01:29] stuarta: is it grouping them or something?
[09:01:49] stuarta: because i have the same channels via freesat as well on high channel numbers
[09:01:55] stuartm: it does group so you only see one channel 5 etc no matter how many different sources you have
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[09:02:16] stuartm: so yes, if your channel numbers aren't harmonised ...
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[09:02:21] stuarta: right, so it must be grouping by the highest channel number
[09:02:36] stuarta: the callsigns are harmonized, you can't harmonize the channum's
[09:02:48] stuartm: well you can .... :)
[09:02:49] stuartm: I do
[09:03:50] ** stuarta goes to merge to the beta **
[09:07:17] stuarta: stuartm: so change the channum's but leave the chanid's alone?
[09:09:43] stuartm: that's what I do, I have some sql to do it for me – I concede that's not ideal and not all users will want to or be able to do that
[09:12:01] stuarta: ah, that's what i do with the callsigns, with a bit of sql
[09:12:49] stuartm: one of those situations where I don't know what the 'right' solution is – except perhaps to not combine different sources into one guide, but allow the user to toggle between sources in the guide
[09:13:14] stuartm: that's fiddly though
[09:13:37] stuarta: i thought the standard wisdom was to sync the callsigns, thereby causing the scheduler to consider them "equal" but leave the channums alone
[09:14:31] stuartm: yes, but if you do that you end up with lots of duplicates in the guide – you have to group somehow, or the SNR is too high
[09:16:37] stuarta: not something we need to fix in the next few weeks
[09:22:36] enyc: dekarl: i don'tk now i can eventually find out =)
[09:23:33] enyc: dekarl: i think wookey said you ideally have copyright headers in each source file or directory and it gets accumulated into the debian copyright file nicely
[09:24:00] enyc: dekarl: can you look in scrollback and give me an answer about the gdb business?
[09:26:50] stuarta: enyc: does gdb-minimal produce the debug info?
[09:27:07] enyc: stuarta: good question, we could of course just dependo n gdb
[09:27:10] enyc: stuarta: how would i test?
[09:27:42] stuarta: no idea
[09:27:58] enyc: stuarta: in any case, can I _understand_ what gdb is being used for there — looks like its' setup to add debug symbols to some code, but because its' not a build-dependency its' not guarunteed to happen
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[09:28:05] stuarta: short of doing 1 run with gdb-minimal, and 1 run with gdb, and comparing the results
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[09:31:13] enyc: ok and ... what about : intent -- ?? there is some reason this isn't a build-dependency in 'packaging'?  — if we want consistent packages I think i shoud make it such, it doesn't stop manual-compiles working without it ...
[09:31:33] stuartm: oh, no more BBC 3 ... guess that means a rescan is due
[09:31:49] stuarta: i'm not entirely sure why it was added, i'd have to go back and review git logs to find out why
[09:32:00] stuarta: stuartm: yeah i saw that this morning, and was most disappointed
[09:32:18] stuartm: I don't know what I'll do without it
[09:32:50] stuarta: watch some of the other 2yrs worth of TV you have recorded? that's what i'll do ;-)
[09:39:15] SteveGoodey: Bluestone 42 was good.
[09:43:40] stuarta: stuartm: it's going online only, so i wonder if it'll be like some of the other freeview channels, which are iptv triggered by mheg
[09:47:44] ** enyc wonders if jya has any thoughts on those http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12634 patches ... **
[09:48:13] enyc: in a few days i should be able to show stretch – (many arches) build logs which might be enlightening
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[10:15:48] enyc: dekarl: i'll find out about andling subtrees and copyright files amalgamation at source-package buildis-time
[10:16:28] enyc: NB: Any complaints about packaging adding a simple +gdb build-dep ??  — it seems this is just what is done in practice ...
[10:16:41] stuarta: works for me
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[10:35:52] stuartm: SteveGoodey: yeah, despite some sarcasm, there was some good content occasionally, though rare
[10:37:17] ** enyc hrrms, not seen superm1 about in ages **
[10:37:35] SteveGoodey: Must be me. I thought it was a constant chuckle. Didn't notice another series though.
[10:38:10] stuarta: enyc: he's in NA so probably asleep
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[12:14:36] stuartm: SteveGoodey: I mean the channel as a whole, Bluestone42 was good
[12:16:25] stuartm: I can't really remember anything else on BBC 3 but there must have been the odd series which was worthy ...
[12:44:18] SteveGoodey: The box is filled with Don't Tell the Bride!! Now the channel is going maybe I can wean her off that.
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[19:15:44] enyc: dekarl: apparently we might ask people to put copyright notice in diretory of each theme or wahtever, so it can have copyright-scan etc ran across it (possibly in an automated way) , but the whole lot needs to be amalgamated into a copyright file for the whole package, that doesn't mean one expects themes' licenses to change much or need to be in huge detail in the main file, just state what licenses are
[19:15:50] enyc: used, or so ..... (would need to check details)
[19:15:53] enyc: dekarl: its' mostly a one-time messy-task todo
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[19:26:28] enyc: i wonder how to tell github to 'fork' packaging/0.27 and packaging/master *separatuly* in my account — currently it just likes to fork as 'packaging' once and this is useless if you want to e.g. separate pull requests in fixes/0.27 and master at same time for good reason that don't lend themselves to cherry-pick-approach
[19:33:39] dekarl: enyc: umm no
[19:34:29] dekarl: enyc: just fork it once, then create a feature branch "pull-me-to-027" from fixes/0.27 and another feature branch "pull-me-to-master" from master. then commit your stuff to each branch and send a pull request
[19:35:13] dekarl: then you can commit more stuff to you master/fixes branch or create more feature branches without new commits being mythically being append to the open pull requests
[19:36:30] dekarl: it took me a while to wrap my mind around it, but once you get used to it its ok
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[19:39:21] enyc: dekarl: ok =) ill givet it a go at weekend likely =) nothing urgent
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