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[00:08:06] | gigem: | stuarta: I can't say that I've really used Fedora that much. Virtually all of my recent experience has been with RHEL, or rather CentOS, which we use quite a lot here at work. The biggest problem I still have with it we always have to go the third-party, rpm route (sometimes dubious quality) for various for this or that or compile it ourselves (increase maintenance). With Debian, almost everything I ever |
[00:08:08] | gigem: | want is usually already packaged by Debian. |
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[01:28:31] | dekarl: | gigem, the good/bad thing is, docker will solve this all. Everyone will be running everything in parallel soonish ;) |
[01:34:35] | dekarl: | the only good thing I know about the rpm distros is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocks_Cluster_Distribution and they are good with layering "stuff for doing the actual work" on top of the distro |
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[01:42:14] | dekarl: | stuarta, why not pull the whole thing instead of just the locking? IIRC it just touches the ATSC EIT implementation which was of not much use before as data just lately became useful enough for people to care. So it appears to be low risk (where are the unit tests???) |
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[02:26:05] | dekarl: | stuarta, #11476 has been superseded by #11739, too? If you come to the same conclusion I'll close it like that. |
[02:26:05] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11476 ** | |
[02:26:05] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11739 ** | |
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[03:39:17] | dekarl: | stuarta, 0.27.6 contains enough good stuff (fixed RTP recording added HTTP-TS recording, hopefully fixed the schedules direct grabbing times, fixed HLS transcode with better then stereo, added support for chinese EIT) for a release. How about we go over the patches until the weekend and then cut the release? :shipit: |
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[09:12:59] | stuarta: | dekarl: re the ATSC EIT, it touches stuff it doesn't need to, that appears wrong to touch, hence pulling the locking out |
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[09:20:16] | stuarta: | well my dev backend running just the locking changes is wedged somewhere |
[09:24:09] | stuarta: | dekarl: we need to review this comment carefully https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11476#comment:6 |
[09:40:49] | dekarl: | stuarta, 5 second root cause analysis... #11476 the 2h16m reboot cycle for the EIT scanner works around #11520 which is a symptom of the EIT scanner tuning a channel instead of the transport itself. (so we try to tune to a service that may not be running or simply removed. The latter can be fixed by a channel scan, the former not) |
[09:40:49] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11476 ** | |
[09:40:49] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11520 ** | |
[09:43:35] | stuarta: | yeah, i think the eitscanner needs an overhaul |
[09:44:53] | stuarta: | it has no concept of EIT muxes |
[09:45:05] | stuarta: | which we need the scanner to find for us |
[09:46:47] | stuarta: | but that's not a job for the short term |
[10:04:51] | stuarta: | can anyone see where this is deadlocking? http://fpaste.org/299011/14496545/ |
[10:05:00] | ** stuarta is currently looking ** | |
[10:05:47] | stuarta: | and it's only partly deadlocked. the eitscanner appears to still be collecting events, yet the webserver and backend status ports aren't responding |
[10:10:06] | dekarl: | for the short term of the EIT I'm only looking at getting the contributed (and other) fixups in and #11809 |
[10:10:06] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11809 ** | |
[10:10:23] | stuarta: | good plan |
[10:11:49] | stuarta: | we would need to utilize the information from the BAT for that |
[10:12:17] | stuarta: | update the scanner to mark multiplexes as EIT multiplexes |
[10:12:45] | dekarl: | aye. BAT and NIT muxes |
[10:12:57] | stuarta: | and maybe make it possible (if it's not already) to tune by mplex, rather than channel |
[10:13:02] | dekarl: | aye |
[10:13:18] | dekarl: | and store the service type so we can automatically add/remove the HD flag of programmes |
[10:14:13] | stuarta: | damn you ubuntu, what have you done with the qt5core debug libraries??? |
[10:15:22] | dekarl: | might be useful for the "radio services don't work in various ways" that may or may not be related to how we use PCR and PTS of the video stream. (taylorr, does that part make any sense?) |
[10:20:24] | dekarl: | stuarta, 2 threads fiddling with DBus in parallel? what does MDM do with DBus? |
[10:22:18] | stuarta: | dunno, it's done that indirectly. qt itself has done it |
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[10:24:31] | stuarta: | dekarl: re your plan of blatting a load of tickets this weekend. i'm busy so can't do it. can maybe try tomorrow night instead? |
[10:31:57] | ** stuarta reverts locking patch in dev tree ** | |
[10:32:27] | dekarl: | hmm, I was trying to suggest that "the team" (whoever has time to drop at it) goes over all patches with milestone 0.27.6 and decides if the are in (:shipit:) or not (move to 0.27.7) until the time someone (was thinking of you) can cut a release soonish (the weeking) |
[10:33:03] | stuarta: | i'd release on a Monday most likely |
[10:33:54] | dekarl: | that would leave the whole weekend for "patch triaging and committing" => sounds good |
[10:34:04] | stuarta: | dekarl: re the ATSC EIT data, maybe what we need to do, is dump all unmatched eit events on a channel change? |
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[10:36:55] | dekarl: | we don't? IIRC the event_id's domain is the transport / service, not sure which. But its not across transports. Do we store the full primary key at least? major/minor/program_number/event_id (or similar) |
[10:37:23] | stuarta: | as i understand the problem, it's partly because we keep any partials over channel changes |
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[10:58:28] | stuarta: | hmmm, might be time to order a new host server. now doing quad core i7's 64Gb RAM, 2x 2Tb HDD for 39 euro a month |
[11:08:52] | stuarta: | but not available until feb by the looks of it |
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[11:22:51] | warpme_: | hi all! |
[11:25:38] | warpme_: | I'm wonder MythTV strategy regarding LVR PRI work. What is attitude here: 1\pretent it is not happening; 2\passive coexistance (=fork); 3\include it as contribution; 4\get LVR onboard as full rights dev? |
[11:26:24] | stuarta: | we are currently working on that issue |
[11:28:15] | warpme_: | great. Looking on his code regarding video playback subsystem – it look Lawrence might be next MarkK. This might be great for project. (as ARM HW decode support might be IMHO milestone in MythTV) |
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[11:30:00] | warpme_: | finally all my Kodi lovers will loose argument about "MythTV is dead on new non-intel HW". I consider this as critical to move from maintenance-like mode to devel-mode |
[11:30:42] | stuarta: | we too understand the issues |
[11:30:57] | warpme_: | s/non-intel/non-x86/ |
[11:33:10] | warpme_: | personally I really appreciate LVR work regarding i.e. media-monitor (i.e auto-playback of just inserted audio CD) or user selection what to do when user inserts data CD with MP3 and pictures. From user perspective it is real added value.... |
[11:34:38] | warpme_: | honestly speaking I was supriced by silence after he published his work regarding arm hw decode. Probably I know only part of story here..... |
[11:41:57] | stuarta: | yep ;-) |
[11:48:50] | dekarl: | warpme_: what is the current state of the encoding fixup for polish EIT? #9480 |
[11:48:50] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9480 ** | |
[11:50:38] | dekarl: | btw, I'd love to see the delta between the various copies of mythtv folded back into a common stream. e.g. get all this in https://github.com/warpme/minimyth2/tree/mast . . . mythtv/files |
[11:56:17] | ** stuarta agrees ** | |
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[12:31:48] | dizygoth: | dekarl: Some of those are already in master, some are old debugging or minimyth customisations – warpme needs to clean up! |
[12:32:30] | dizygoth: | dekarl: 16 or so are New Gallery, which I'll probably push next week (after 27.6) |
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[12:33:06] | dizygoth: | dekarl: Are you in the midst of 'explicits' for libmythmetadata ? |
[12:35:30] | warpme_: | dekarl: what is Your need regarding "delta between the various copies of mythtv folded back into a common stream"? |
[12:35:51] | warpme_: | is it single point as reference to code changes or.... |
[12:40:23] | warpme_: | if You want to see functionally grouped myth code changes the pls look here: https://github.com/warpme/minimyth2/blob/mast . . . htv/Makefile |
[12:42:42] | dizygoth: | warpme_: That looks better. Apologies... |
[12:43:46] | warpme_: | dizygoth: be my guest. I love Your gallery work! |
[12:48:00] | warpme_: | dekarl: regarding #9480 – sorry for delay with replay. I'm extreemly busy with consultancy project for telecom austria (working even in weekends now...) I'll try gather info for You but probably at christmas time. |
[12:48:00] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9480 ** | |
[12:52:23] | stuarta: | dizygoth: greetings |
[12:53:25] | dizygoth: | stuarta: hi. #12491. Was that a hint/kick that you expected me to do something ? For 27.6 ? |
[12:53:25] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12491 ** | |
[12:54:07] | stuarta: | as you wrote the patch i thought i'd let you commit your own work ;-) |
[12:55:06] | dizygoth: | stuarta: Thanks! You'll never get your stats up like that... |
[13:13:21] | stuarta: | dizygoth: fyi, when you cherry-pick that back to fixes/0.27 please use '-x' option (records original githash) |
[13:13:58] | stuarta: | if you ever cherry-pick somebody elses code, then add '-s' as well (adds signed off by) |
[13:20:02] | dizygoth: | stuarta: Now he tells me... |
[13:20:30] | stuarta: | :-p |
[13:20:35] | stuarta: | no matter |
[13:30:35] | dizygoth: | stuarta: #12534 should go in 27.6 IMHO. It annoyed me for a long time. Shall I pinch it off jya ? |
[13:30:35] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12534 ** | |
[13:38:59] | stuarta: | looks fine to me |
[13:39:10] | stuarta: | :shipit: ! |
[13:46:54] | dekarl: | warpme_: no worries. I'm going through my backlog of stuff that has been waiting for me, sometimes >1year, and try to move forward with most things. As I remembered that my suggested fix for the working (but technically wrong) fix did not work that ticket stalled. |
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[13:49:05] | dekarl: | wrt the delta, I'd like to easy the work for packagers by folding back changes into the mainline. But also for supporters, that need to keep track of which issue is fixed in which distribution. Also if someone invested effort into fixing something I'd love to see that being preserved if possible by merging |
[13:49:25] | stuarta: | yep, we should have as much as possible merged back in |
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[13:52:11] | dekarl: | e.g. changes needed for OpenGL ES on Raspberry Pi 2 are likely similar to changes needed for native frontend on Android with OpenGL ES. (just picked a random prominent sample that is currently in the works) |
[13:52:38] | dizygoth: | dekarl: I've got 12 of warpme's media monitor patches lined up but was waiting on developments with the organ grinder... |
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[13:54:42] | dekarl: | dizygoth: welcome aboard! mind to add yourself to https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/WhosWho? ;) |
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[13:56:43] | dekarl: | dizygoth: sounds good. helps with the delta to LVR's tree and MiniMyth2's tree at the same time |
[14:01:04] | dizygoth: | dekarl: They're mostly the same :) Wiki done. Have you got explicit's lined up for libmythmetadata ? |
[14:03:12] | taylorr: | dekarl: no idea |
[14:03:23] | dekarl: | explicits? as in NSFW artwork? not on purpose... it has unfornuate effects on WAF and KAF... #12149 ... |
[14:03:23] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12149 ** | |
[14:04:19] | ** stuarta rofl ** | |
[14:04:21] | dizygoth: | dekarl: I thought you were going through all the cppcheck stuff making all the constructors 'explicit' |
[14:04:28] | dekarl: | ahh that one |
[14:04:44] | dekarl: | All I've done is commited, feel free to work through it |
[14:07:42] | dekarl: | dizygoth: I left CleanupGuard alone, intending to refactor that into libmythbase or so. And left some alone as we are using the implicit conversions. Basically only working through the list to reduce it and keep the report usable |
[14:08:54] | dekarl: | if you go through the list you should be aware that the last update to cppcheck added some false postives again. e.g. all errors are false positives |
[14:09:27] | stuarta: | dekarl: we reported these false positives to cppcheck? |
[14:09:46] | dekarl: | I tried to write reduced test cases for them against their test website, but it all worked over there :/ |
[14:09:52] | dizygoth: | dekarl: My gallery will add to libmythmetadata so I don't want to mess up anything you're in the middle of. Maybe best if we synchronise. |
[14:09:54] | stuarta: | :( |
[14:10:18] | dekarl: | did not find the website where I can just click on "this error you find in mythtv master is not an error at all due to <insert reason>" |
[14:10:54] | dekarl: | that is what kept me from finishing the walk through the cppcheck list... |
[14:11:26] | dekarl: | turned to 0.27.6 to get that ready to ship as I needed a break from cppcheck ;) |
[14:14:06] | dizygoth: | dekarl: Ok. Where can I find the configuration that Myth cppcheck uses ? |
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[14:15:32] | stuarta: | dizygoth: sent you a PM |
[14:38:44] | stuarta: | dizygoth: fyi you need the # in a fixes message otherwise it doesn't parse |
[14:41:08] | dizygoth: | stuarta: So the title of the fixes branch is parsed then ? |
[14:42:13] | stuarta: | no no, for the trac integration you have to do Fixes|Refs #12345 for it to action the ticket |
[14:42:13] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12345 ** | |
[14:42:29] | stuarta: | it know what branch you have pushed to automatically |
[14:44:57] | dizygoth: | stuarta: The trac hooks have worked ok. But you seemed to be adding the ref in the title *as well* (but only for fixes) |
[14:45:14] | stuarta: | have an example? |
[14:51:08] | stuarta: | it can be anywhere in the commit message btw. |
[14:55:15] | dizygoth: | stuarta: ...No. Bah! I confused some of your 'fix' and 'non-fix' commits. The hooks are fine. It's just the titles don't match... |
[14:55:29] | stuarta: | heh, doesn't matter |
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[15:53:40] | dekarl: | oh my, we are not the only slackers in town... https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/688141 just got a heads up from a user of Unicable with fixes/0.27 that my PPA does not cover 14.04 LTS. So I thought lets look at the stats and :shipit: or build a PPA. but ppastats is not in the package archive nor are the stats available on the website... |
[15:54:32] | dekarl: | Does anyone use it and support merging #9726, #10997, #12092 into fixes/0.27? (ping warpme_) |
[15:54:32] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9726 ** | |
[15:54:32] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10997 ** | |
[15:54:32] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12092 ** | |
[16:07:53] | stuarta: | don't use it. :shipit: anyway |
[16:13:34] | sphery: | dizygoth: Out of curiosity, on #12491 , does the change still work with old MySQL-python library, or does it only support mysqlclient? If only mysqlclient, we need to let people know and need to change the configure script to do a version check. |
[16:13:34] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12491 ** | |
[16:15:45] | sphery: | Regardless, I'm glad that one got taken care of. Thanks. |
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[16:16:36] | dekarl: | oh my. it needs a schema change that did not make it into fixes/0.27, because it only got committed March 2014... |
[16:17:25] | stuarta: | sphery: i at least could get it to work on f22 and f23 |
[16:17:25] | stuarta: | not that they are very old |
[16:17:48] | ** stuarta ponders building a debian vm to test ** | |
[16:18:19] | stuarta: | dekarl: ah well then, we can't ship it :-/ |
[16:18:33] | stuarta: | unless it can be mangled to work without a schema change |
[16:20:18] | dekarl: | stuarta, its the configuration data for the Unicable stuff. Did not make the fixes window in time. Will teach me to get schema changes in early before actually using the data |
[16:21:06] | dekarl: | Thinking about suggesting to move to master early as its quite stable atm |
[16:38:33] | sphery: | stuarta: according to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1224214 , the change to mysqlclient (from MySQL-python) was made in F22 (though the package is still called MySQL-python). |
[16:38:43] | sphery: | which version of "MySQL-python" do you have? |
[16:39:08] | sphery: | if it's 1.2.5 or below, it's MySQL-python, if it's 1.3 or above, it's mysqlclient |
[16:39:36] | stuarta: | python-mysql-1.3.6–4.fc22.x86_64 |
[16:39:42] | sphery: | that's the new one, then |
[16:40:00] | stuarta: | lemme check my debian buildslave, that'll be the oldest one |
[16:41:03] | stuarta: | python-mysqldb 1.2.3–2.1 |
[16:41:11] | stuarta: | so on jessie, it'll be the old one |
[16:42:04] | sphery: | yeah, that would be |
[16:42:19] | stuarta: | sphery: i'm guessing the long term fix is to move to a different python mysql library? |
[16:43:16] | sphery: | well, the bindings were written to support 2--MySQL-python and oursql. MySQL-python seems to be abandoned, so mysqlclient was created to move it forward. |
[16:43:54] | sphery: | dropping MySQL-python support is fine, IMHO--we would then still support mysqlclient and oursql |
[16:44:17] | stuarta: | ubuntu 15.04 uses 1.2.3–2ubuntu1, so the old variant as well |
[16:44:24] | sphery: | but I just want to know before we start getting the inverse bug reports (i.e. all the people with old MySQL-python start saying bindings don't work) |
[16:44:43] | stuarta: | yeah thinking that |
[16:44:54] | stuarta: | surely we can write a simple test script? |
[16:44:57] | gary_buhrmaster: | And on Fedora, they reused the old name (I would have preferred the used the new name, and specified an "obsoletes" in the RPM to delete the old one, but that is life). |
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[16:45:45] | sphery: | yeah, definitely will make things more confusing |
[16:53:33] | dekarl: | stuarta: for a manual test there is always /usr/share/mythtv/hardwareprofile/sendProfile.py ;) |
[16:54:09] | stuarta: | dekarl: hah, to test the db interface it should be sufficient to have a local mysql instance |
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[17:07:58] | dizygoth: | sphery: I think your answer is Yes. I believe the first version of "MySQL-python" (aka MySQLdb1) was 1.2.3, so if it tests ok on Ubuntu 15.04 & 14.04 (it does) then we're ok. |
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[17:12:54] | dizygoth: | sphery: The mysqlclient author intends to maintain backward compatibility ("drop-in replacement") http://sourceforge.net/p/pypi/support-requests/553/ |
[17:14:53] | gigem: | dekarl: docker? I'm not familiar with it, but after a cursory look, it looks like overkill. Anyway, I had a number of small problems with my mythbackend.service file. I fixed them, but it didn't fix the bigger problem. I've since confirmed with the help of a wrapper script that eth0 is configured when mythbackend is started, but it still refuses to bind to that address. It will only do so after I |
[17:14:55] | gigem: | manually restart the service. Something else must be causing mythbackend to think that address isn't available yet, but I don't know what that is. |
[17:15:19] | stuarta: | gigem: strace the backend startup, that'll let you know |
[17:17:50] | gigem: | stuarta: I'll try that later. I'm about to give up again for a few hours. Even making sure the address can be pinged in the wrapper script isn't enough. mythbackup still reports 'Unable to find IPv4 address to bind'. |
[17:18:16] | dekarl: | gigem, the part about everyone running every distro in parallel for docker was a rant. the part about providing a mythbackend upnp demonstrator in docker was serious. So developers of upnp clients can fire up a working backend with a simple command |
[17:18:57] | dekarl: | if I'm going to build it I have to learn the docker stuff first, though |
[17:19:09] | stuarta: | in theory not that hard |
[17:19:30] | stuarta: | should be able to make a dockerfile which they use and it'll automatically build it |
[17:19:42] | gigem: | dekarl: Okay. |
[17:19:46] | stuarta: | many many moving parts in that |
[17:20:25] | dekarl: | I was thinking about adding a movie from Blender foundation, some free music, some pictures. pull fanart etc pp, so they can see stuartm's work in full glory. => yes, many moving parts |
[17:21:06] | dekarl: | I stopped when I learned that docker and multicast don'T work in the default setup. To much research for short evenings |
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[17:38:31] | dekarl: | tgm4883: superm1: what is python-central? https://launchpad.net/~dekarl/+archive/ubuntu . . . ld_state=all |
[17:39:48] | dekarl: | lets reword that, I see what it is, but why does it break the PPA build? |
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[17:43:03] | superm1: | dekarl: it's the old way to do python packages in ubuntu |
[17:43:10] | superm1: | dh-python is what's supposed to be used these days |
[17:43:26] | superm1: | which should have been pulled down in your build... |
[17:45:16] | superm1: | dekarl: you're missing this commit in your packaging for some reason: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/commit/43 . . . 57d6cf302487 |
[17:45:20] | superm1: | make sure you use the latest 0.27 packaging |
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[18:33:03] | dekarl: | ahh, this is the inner/outer packaging checkout thing.. I'll manually update the outer, thanks |
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[20:10:37] | gigem: | stuarta: I've narrowed my problem down to the IsRunning check in ServerPool::SelectDefaultListen failing. That causes the code to not check for assigned addresses. It's strange. The ifconfig run immediately before mythbackend is started clearly shows the interface is up and running. The strace doesn't shed much light on it either. The ioctls to get the interface flags show it's up and running too. |
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[20:58:03] | dekarl: | superm1: its building now :) |
[20:59:44] | dekarl: | tgm4883: btw, we now try to properly add .ts and .mpg file extensions depending on the actual container. https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/65766 . . . d25b6892b8ff |
[21:03:28] | markspieth: | dekarl: Ive still been meaning to see what LVR has done with OpenGL ES. Its in progress but progress is slow. Probably better than my hack. |
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[21:35:05] | gary_buhrmaster: | markspieth: I think part of the challenge is going to be that Qt is not (typically?) built with OpenGL ES support on (most?) platforms (for some values of Qt version). |
[21:35:37] | gary_buhrmaster: | markspieth: I think that was supposed to change at some point in the Qt5 release cycle, but I have never bothered to follow the details (and I may simply be wrong about the ES support in Qt). |
[21:38:06] | gary_buhrmaster: | markspieth: Platform specific (in this case, OpenMAX IL supported GPUs with custom libraries) seems likely to be problematic for builders (of course, if you limit support to one platform (say, the RPi) it limits the pain a bit). |
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