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[03:46:32] | ChaosMageX: | Roklobsta said I should ask my question here: Is MythTV currently capable of retroactive recording, in which the time-shift buffer can be added to a recording? What I mean is, if I'm halfway through watching a program, and I suddenly decide I want to record it, will the recording include the timeshift buffer so that the program is recorded from the beginning instead of from the time I pressed |
[03:46:32] | ChaosMageX: | the record button? |
[03:50:18] | ChaosMageX: | I have had that functionality in the DirecTV R22–100 DVR set-top boxes, which are at least 5 years old, so I'd be surprised if that feature hasn't already been implemented in MythTV. |
[03:56:06] | Roklobsta: | you might need to wait a while for an answer |
[03:56:17] | Roklobsta: | at least 6 hours |
[03:57:10] | ChaosMageX: | Right. I'm willing to wait. |
[03:58:48] | ChaosMageX: | I might not be awake for the answer, but I'll be able to see it when I wake up. |
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[08:05:38] | stuarta: | dekarl: i could write the support (for v4l2 properly), but i'd only be able to test it with my webcam ;-) |
[08:16:28] | stuarta: | tbh, the nupplevideorecorder has better v4l2 support than the v4lrecorder |
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[10:24:35] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: i have some ideas for you btw. |
[10:24:48] | ShapeShifter499: | oh? |
[10:25:01] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: shoot away |
[10:25:31] | stuarta: | so the problem is entirely due to our v4lrecorder being crap, and misuing the v4l2 api |
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[10:26:03] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: ok |
[10:26:20] | stuarta: | https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12522 |
[10:26:49] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: are you in a position to build mythtv from sourec |
[10:26:53] | stuarta: | source |
[10:28:10] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I could |
[10:28:52] | ShapeShifter499: | I'm guessing you have a patch or ./configure command to be applied? |
[10:29:00] | stuarta: | patch |
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[10:29:59] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: Alright I'll give it a try |
[10:32:51] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I'm going to add the patch to the PKGBUILD for my Arch Linux system so I keep whatever Arch specific modifications there are https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/commu . . . kages/mythtv |
[10:33:09] | stuarta: | sure, np |
[10:33:12] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: and so it's a little easier to remove if I decide |
[10:34:51] | stuarta: | added it to the trac ticket |
[10:36:13] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: alright let me start the build |
[10:36:41] | stuarta: | did the ticket make any sense to you? |
[10:38:42] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: yea I think so. If I understood it, MythTV is using the device as if it were in streaming mode although it's not thus causing confusion on the driver side which throws the error |
[10:39:07] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: kind of sounds like there should be some better detection thrown into the code |
[10:39:26] | stuarta: | detection is not the issue |
[10:39:45] | stuarta: | we correctly detect the device is streaming capable |
[10:40:01] | stuarta: | and then use selected bits of the streaming api incorrectly |
[10:40:10] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I see |
[10:40:22] | stuarta: | with various different drivers objecting to our misuse of the api at different points |
[10:41:43] | ShapeShifter499: | well it 'was' working at some point based off google searching and getting success posts back near 2010. So since then someone (or a group of some people) screwed up the coding and no one noticed it? |
[10:41:51] | ShapeShifter499: | or no fix was made? |
[10:41:54] | stuarta: | that is pure luck |
[10:42:23] | stuarta: | i can understand a driver ignoring STREAMOFF |
[10:42:34] | stuarta: | well accepting it even tho it was never streaming |
[10:42:57] | stuarta: | but it would be a bug with the drivers to accept a STREAMON without setting up streaming buffers |
[10:43:07] | stuarta: | so we are lucky everyone had buggy drivers |
[10:43:31] | stuarta: | your driver is behaving correctly in this regard |
[10:43:56] | ShapeShifter499: | lol |
[10:44:10] | stuarta: | the code is fundamentally unchanged in the last 5 years |
[10:45:05] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: maybe the bug was fixed along with another bug that was affecting my particular card. Before the fix the bug caused a system lock after some time of using the tuner |
[10:45:27] | stuarta: | possible |
[10:45:36] | ShapeShifter499: | I didn't look into it much so I really don't know |
[10:45:50] | stuarta: | consider, we are doing a STREAMON with an undefined buffer |
[10:45:55] | stuarta: | where does the data go? |
[10:46:04] | stuarta: | <random memory> |
[10:46:36] | stuarta: | if that's kernel space, it'll eventually crash the kernel (which can exhibit as a lockup) |
[10:46:52] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: so to make sure I'm using it correctly..... patch -i ticket-12522-disable-streaming-mode.diff |
[10:47:16] | stuarta: | sounds about right, you may need a -p1 |
[10:47:19] | stuarta: | or p2 |
[10:47:43] | stuarta: | the path in the patch is a/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/recorders/v4lchannel.cpp |
[10:48:26] | stuarta: | so if the working directory when you apply is equivalent to "a" you need -p1, if it's "mythtv" you need -p2 |
[10:48:30] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: so that would strip the 'a/' from that? |
[10:48:34] | stuarta: | p1 yes |
[10:48:53] | stuarta: | p2 removes the a/mythtv |
[10:48:55] | ShapeShifter499: | ok |
[10:58:43] | stuarta: | heh, my webcam only supports streaming mode, not readwrite, so i can only test streaming mode |
[10:59:51] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: building now with http://sprunge.us/EAQJ |
[11:00:42] | ShapeShifter499: | grabbed it from the arch build server then added your patch to it |
[11:01:10] | stuarta: | looks good |
[11:01:27] | stuarta: | #11338 |
[11:01:27] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11338 ** | |
[11:03:33] | ShapeShifter499: | lol that patch, if I read that correctly now it's just included so the whole thing will build |
[11:04:09] | stuarta: | i was just intruiged to see what they were pulling in |
[11:04:43] | ShapeShifter499: | might take a while but no errors yet |
[11:06:54] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: do I have to nuke the current settings? |
[11:10:28] | ShapeShifter499: | remove everything first and setup the patched version fresh |
[11:16:55] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: nope, should just install and run |
[11:17:37] | stuarta: | re-use everything you've already setup |
[11:17:51] | ShapeShifter499: | alright |
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[12:00:10] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: ok so it appears to have compiled successfully |
[12:00:18] | ShapeShifter499: | starting it now, cross your fingers |
[12:00:37] | stuarta: | :) |
[12:00:46] | stuarta: | i did at least check it compiles... |
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[12:05:24] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: sorry got a phone call... I'll test in a bit |
[12:10:24] | stuarta: | no rush |
[12:13:23] | stuarta: | this is a rabbit hole this issue |
[12:18:23] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: back |
[12:19:33] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: um https://pastee.org/pwjqr |
[12:20:26] | stuarta: | hrm.... |
[12:20:38] | stuarta: | what have i accidentally disabled |
[12:22:27] | stuarta: | can you run the backend with --verbose channel please? |
[12:23:29] | stuarta: | this is promising, in that it's got past where it was before |
[12:26:57] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: HANG ON |
[12:27:06] | ** stuarta grabs table ** | |
[12:27:27] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I deleted all my setup using mythtv-setup, I have video! |
[12:27:34] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: no audio thhough |
[12:27:37] | stuarta: | \o/ |
[12:27:45] | stuarta: | boo |
[12:28:00] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: https://pastee.org/cgr2c |
[12:28:54] | stuarta: | interesting |
[12:29:55] | stuarta: | i assume you get audio with the vlc stream? |
[12:30:20] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: yes |
[12:31:30] | stuarta: | i assume you configured the relevant audio input for the device? |
[12:32:54] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: all it gives me is 'Alsa: default' |
[12:33:09] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: it seems though my server died |
[12:33:19] | ShapeShifter499: | I need to go across the room to check it |
[12:34:00] | stuarta: | no i mean (is this even possible?) set the audio device associated with the video capture? |
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[12:36:52] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: sorry my server running mythtv just quit, but a reboot seems to have fixed it |
[12:42:22] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: https://pastee.org/7qnge seems setting mythtv to 'analogue to mpeg-2 encoder' did it |
[12:42:50] | ShapeShifter499: | I did it to try to enable audio, I'll just move it back to just plain analogue |
[12:43:48] | stuarta: | ugh, you've got a panic in the v4l core. not pretty |
[12:45:03] | stuarta: | i need to think some more about this |
[12:45:25] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: plain analogue seemed ok |
[12:45:30] | ShapeShifter499: | no audio though |
[12:45:48] | stuarta: | i think that uses the nvr rather than v4l recorder |
[12:46:14] | stuarta: | but i have no clue. the interdependencies here is a pain |
[12:52:06] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: ah, i just had a lightbulb moment |
[12:52:21] | stuarta: | analog is the correct input for this |
[12:52:41] | stuarta: | that device supports ATSC, analog captue and something else |
[12:52:56] | stuarta: | ATSC would use the v4l recorder, and composite is analog |
[13:01:51] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I no longer can get video now |
[13:03:10] | ** stuarta facepalms ** | |
[13:05:10] | lautriv: | ShapeShifter499, what kernel does this chromebook run ? |
[13:05:23] | ShapeShifter499: | lautriv: 4.1 |
[13:05:39] | lautriv: | vanilla ? |
[13:05:41] | ShapeShifter499: | lautriv: Linux chromebook-server 4.1.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 17 08:52:28 CEST 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
[13:05:41] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
[13:05:57] | ShapeShifter499: | lautriv: Arch Linux |
[13:14:20] | ShapeShifter499: | lautriv: stuarta https://pastee.org/d5vua |
[13:14:24] | ShapeShifter499: | current error |
[13:16:07] | stuarta: | how's the tuner setup this time?? |
[13:16:30] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I think the config files got messed up, I'm not sure how to delete them from mysql |
[13:16:48] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: that first error I got from the kernel panic |
[13:24:47] | lautriv: | ShapeShifter499, what about RAM/Swap ? |
[13:25:20] | ShapeShifter499: | lautriv: 12gb of ram 12gb of saw |
[13:25:22] | ShapeShifter499: | *swap |
[13:25:31] | stuarta: | on a chromebook? nice |
[13:25:59] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I have the c710, I could go upto 16gb if I want |
[13:26:26] | lautriv: | ShapeShifter499, but how much was in use when that happend ? |
[13:27:08] | ShapeShifter499: | lautriv: the kernel panic? I didn't monitor it |
[13:27:58] | lautriv: | ShapeShifter499, i ask because "unable to allocate 393216 bytes for transfer buffer 4" if that were a real case, you're fishing in the dark. |
[13:31:29] | stuarta: | yeah, need a vmcore to get anywhere with it |
[13:32:50] | lautriv: | spybook + arch-linux + world-domination-daemon is asking for trouble ;) |
[13:59:01] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: so where did we get to with testing, what works, and what doesn't? |
[13:59:10] | ** stuarta is confused ** | |
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[14:06:11] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: your patch worked but me trying to use 'analogue to mpeg-2' seems to have caused a kernel panic which corrupted mythtv setup |
[14:06:50] | stuarta: | oh right, what about the no audio? |
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[14:29:52] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I no idea, I cleared the mysql stuff and restarted but now I'm getting this.... Oct 08 07:29:02 chromebook-server mythbackend[3467]: 2015-10–08 07:29:02.440844 E NVR(/dev/video1): v4l2: Unable to set desired format |
[14:30:07] | ShapeShifter499: | *no idea about the audio |
[14:30:31] | stuarta: | right, that's using NVR, not v4l recorder |
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[14:35:21] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: ok now I'm confused |
[14:36:00] | stuarta: | me to |
[14:36:00] | ShapeShifter499: | I had 'analogue' selected and that was giving me video, same thing selected after the crash but no video |
[14:37:04] | stuarta: | so the change i did should (in theory) only affect recorders setup as V4L2 |
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[14:40:17] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: selecting analogue makes my card list as 'V4L2' in the list |
[14:40:29] | stuarta: | oh okay |
[14:40:44] | ShapeShifter499: | if I pick 'analogue to mpeg-2' it shows as a mpeg card |
[14:40:57] | stuarta: | aha |
[14:41:18] | stuarta: | i've been trying to get my laptop setup to record from my webcam, it's not playing yet |
[14:41:36] | stuarta: | i really need to work on the setup side of things |
[14:42:10] | ShapeShifter499: | I'm not sure how I got video playing at all |
[14:42:32] | ShapeShifter499: | but for one glorious moment I had streaming to kodi on my android |
[14:44:23] | ShapeShifter499: | sigh |
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[15:03:09] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: any other ideas right now? |
[15:04:36] | stuarta: | not right now, am drowning in "real work" |
[15:10:15] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: ah sorry |
[15:10:31] | stuarta: | np |
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[15:28:32] | lautriv: | i observed some strange behaviour which may be related to the DB, had a power-outage and after all machines were up again the delay for data on mythweb and searchtime in frontends to list recordings is much longer. repair/optimize/check DB did not change anything . |
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[15:51:53] | ShapeShifter499: | I dunno, I'll try this again later |
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[16:14:01] | lautriv: | ShapeShifter499, if i had some analog sources i would compare but all thingies here are DVB-S(2) |
[16:26:47] | ** stuartm_ throws stuarta a buoyancy aid ** | |
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[19:04:42] | dekarl: | ahh stuart a, how come you always look at tickets that I pushed ;) |
[19:05:30] | dekarl: | I don't have V4L devices, maybe a webcam in one of the boxes but thats about it |
[19:05:52] | dekarl: | But I can setup a PPA to tease users into testing. |
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[20:21:37] | stuarta: | dekarl: it's not intentional ;-) |
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[21:53:26] | dekarl: | warpme, something for changelog in minimyth2-master. I had to edit pxelinux.cfg/default when updating tonight (first time sind april/may), changing ramdisk_size=160000 to >162728. I used 163000. kernel crashed with "unable to mount root on unknown block". |
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