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Thursday, October 8th, 2015, 00:41 UTC
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[03:46:32] ChaosMageX: Roklobsta said I should ask my question here: Is MythTV currently capable of retroactive recording, in which the time-shift buffer can be added to a recording? What I mean is, if I'm halfway through watching a program, and I suddenly decide I want to record it, will the recording include the timeshift buffer so that the program is recorded from the beginning instead of from the time I pressed
[03:46:32] ChaosMageX: the record button?
[03:50:18] ChaosMageX: I have had that functionality in the DirecTV R22–100 DVR set-top boxes, which are at least 5 years old, so I'd be surprised if that feature hasn't already been implemented in MythTV.
[03:56:06] Roklobsta: you might need to wait a while for an answer
[03:56:17] Roklobsta: at least 6 hours
[03:57:10] ChaosMageX: Right. I'm willing to wait.
[03:58:48] ChaosMageX: I might not be awake for the answer, but I'll be able to see it when I wake up.
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[08:05:38] stuarta: dekarl: i could write the support (for v4l2 properly), but i'd only be able to test it with my webcam ;-)
[08:16:28] stuarta: tbh, the nupplevideorecorder has better v4l2 support than the v4lrecorder
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[10:24:35] stuarta: ShapeShifter499: i have some ideas for you btw.
[10:24:48] ShapeShifter499: oh?
[10:25:01] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: shoot away
[10:25:31] stuarta: so the problem is entirely due to our v4lrecorder being crap, and misuing the v4l2 api
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[10:26:03] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: ok
[10:26:20] stuarta: https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12522
[10:26:49] stuarta: ShapeShifter499: are you in a position to build mythtv from sourec
[10:26:53] stuarta: source
[10:28:10] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I could
[10:28:52] ShapeShifter499: I'm guessing you have a patch or ./configure command to be applied?
[10:29:00] stuarta: patch
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[10:29:59] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: Alright I'll give it a try
[10:32:51] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I'm going to add the patch to the PKGBUILD for my Arch Linux system so I keep whatever Arch specific modifications there are https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/commu . . . kages/mythtv
[10:33:09] stuarta: sure, np
[10:33:12] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: and so it's a little easier to remove if I decide
[10:34:51] stuarta: added it to the trac ticket
[10:36:13] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: alright let me start the build
[10:36:41] stuarta: did the ticket make any sense to you?
[10:38:42] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: yea I think so. If I understood it, MythTV is using the device as if it were in streaming mode although it's not thus causing confusion on the driver side which throws the error
[10:39:07] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: kind of sounds like there should be some better detection thrown into the code
[10:39:26] stuarta: detection is not the issue
[10:39:45] stuarta: we correctly detect the device is streaming capable
[10:40:01] stuarta: and then use selected bits of the streaming api incorrectly
[10:40:10] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I see
[10:40:22] stuarta: with various different drivers objecting to our misuse of the api at different points
[10:41:43] ShapeShifter499: well it 'was' working at some point based off google searching and getting success posts back near 2010. So since then someone (or a group of some people) screwed up the coding and no one noticed it?
[10:41:51] ShapeShifter499: or no fix was made?
[10:41:54] stuarta: that is pure luck
[10:42:23] stuarta: i can understand a driver ignoring STREAMOFF
[10:42:34] stuarta: well accepting it even tho it was never streaming
[10:42:57] stuarta: but it would be a bug with the drivers to accept a STREAMON without setting up streaming buffers
[10:43:07] stuarta: so we are lucky everyone had buggy drivers
[10:43:31] stuarta: your driver is behaving correctly in this regard
[10:43:56] ShapeShifter499: lol
[10:44:10] stuarta: the code is fundamentally unchanged in the last 5 years
[10:45:05] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: maybe the bug was fixed along with another bug that was affecting my particular card. Before the fix the bug caused a system lock after some time of using the tuner
[10:45:27] stuarta: possible
[10:45:36] ShapeShifter499: I didn't look into it much so I really don't know
[10:45:50] stuarta: consider, we are doing a STREAMON with an undefined buffer
[10:45:55] stuarta: where does the data go?
[10:46:04] stuarta: <random memory>
[10:46:36] stuarta: if that's kernel space, it'll eventually crash the kernel (which can exhibit as a lockup)
[10:46:52] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: so to make sure I'm using it correctly..... patch -i ticket-12522-disable-streaming-mode.diff
[10:47:16] stuarta: sounds about right, you may need a -p1
[10:47:19] stuarta: or p2
[10:47:43] stuarta: the path in the patch is a/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/recorders/v4lchannel.cpp
[10:48:26] stuarta: so if the working directory when you apply is equivalent to "a" you need -p1, if it's "mythtv" you need -p2
[10:48:30] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: so that would strip the 'a/' from that?
[10:48:34] stuarta: p1 yes
[10:48:53] stuarta: p2 removes the a/mythtv
[10:48:55] ShapeShifter499: ok
[10:58:43] stuarta: heh, my webcam only supports streaming mode, not readwrite, so i can only test streaming mode
[10:59:51] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: building now with http://sprunge.us/EAQJ
[11:00:42] ShapeShifter499: grabbed it from the arch build server then added your patch to it
[11:01:10] stuarta: looks good
[11:01:27] stuarta: #11338
[11:01:27] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11338 **
[11:03:33] ShapeShifter499: lol that patch, if I read that correctly now it's just included so the whole thing will build
[11:04:09] stuarta: i was just intruiged to see what they were pulling in
[11:04:43] ShapeShifter499: might take a while but no errors yet
[11:06:54] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: do I have to nuke the current settings?
[11:10:28] ShapeShifter499: remove everything first and setup the patched version fresh
[11:16:55] stuarta: ShapeShifter499: nope, should just install and run
[11:17:37] stuarta: re-use everything you've already setup
[11:17:51] ShapeShifter499: alright
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[12:00:10] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: ok so it appears to have compiled successfully
[12:00:18] ShapeShifter499: starting it now, cross your fingers
[12:00:37] stuarta: :)
[12:00:46] stuarta: i did at least check it compiles...
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[12:05:24] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: sorry got a phone call... I'll test in a bit
[12:10:24] stuarta: no rush
[12:13:23] stuarta: this is a rabbit hole this issue
[12:18:23] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: back
[12:19:33] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: um https://pastee.org/pwjqr
[12:20:26] stuarta: hrm....
[12:20:38] stuarta: what have i accidentally disabled
[12:22:27] stuarta: can you run the backend with --verbose channel please?
[12:23:29] stuarta: this is promising, in that it's got past where it was before
[12:26:57] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: HANG ON
[12:27:06] ** stuarta grabs table **
[12:27:27] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I deleted all my setup using mythtv-setup, I have video!
[12:27:34] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: no audio thhough
[12:27:37] stuarta: \o/
[12:27:45] stuarta: boo
[12:28:00] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: https://pastee.org/cgr2c
[12:28:54] stuarta: interesting
[12:29:55] stuarta: i assume you get audio with the vlc stream?
[12:30:20] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: yes
[12:31:30] stuarta: i assume you configured the relevant audio input for the device?
[12:32:54] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: all it gives me is 'Alsa: default'
[12:33:09] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: it seems though my server died
[12:33:19] ShapeShifter499: I need to go across the room to check it
[12:34:00] stuarta: no i mean (is this even possible?) set the audio device associated with the video capture?
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[12:36:52] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: sorry my server running mythtv just quit, but a reboot seems to have fixed it
[12:42:22] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: https://pastee.org/7qnge seems setting mythtv to 'analogue to mpeg-2 encoder' did it
[12:42:50] ShapeShifter499: I did it to try to enable audio, I'll just move it back to just plain analogue
[12:43:48] stuarta: ugh, you've got a panic in the v4l core. not pretty
[12:45:03] stuarta: i need to think some more about this
[12:45:25] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: plain analogue seemed ok
[12:45:30] ShapeShifter499: no audio though
[12:45:48] stuarta: i think that uses the nvr rather than v4l recorder
[12:46:14] stuarta: but i have no clue. the interdependencies here is a pain
[12:52:06] stuarta: ShapeShifter499: ah, i just had a lightbulb moment
[12:52:21] stuarta: analog is the correct input for this
[12:52:41] stuarta: that device supports ATSC, analog captue and something else
[12:52:56] stuarta: ATSC would use the v4l recorder, and composite is analog
[13:01:51] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I no longer can get video now
[13:03:10] ** stuarta facepalms **
[13:05:10] lautriv: ShapeShifter499, what kernel does this chromebook run ?
[13:05:23] ShapeShifter499: lautriv: 4.1
[13:05:39] lautriv: vanilla ?
[13:05:41] ShapeShifter499: lautriv: Linux chromebook-server 4.1.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 17 08:52:28 CEST 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:05:41] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 **
[13:05:57] ShapeShifter499: lautriv: Arch Linux
[13:14:20] ShapeShifter499: lautriv: stuarta https://pastee.org/d5vua
[13:14:24] ShapeShifter499: current error
[13:16:07] stuarta: how's the tuner setup this time??
[13:16:30] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I think the config files got messed up, I'm not sure how to delete them from mysql
[13:16:48] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: that first error I got from the kernel panic
[13:24:47] lautriv: ShapeShifter499, what about RAM/Swap ?
[13:25:20] ShapeShifter499: lautriv: 12gb of ram 12gb of saw
[13:25:22] ShapeShifter499: *swap
[13:25:31] stuarta: on a chromebook? nice
[13:25:59] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I have the c710, I could go upto 16gb if I want
[13:26:26] lautriv: ShapeShifter499, but how much was in use when that happend ?
[13:27:08] ShapeShifter499: lautriv: the kernel panic? I didn't monitor it
[13:27:58] lautriv: ShapeShifter499, i ask because "unable to allocate 393216 bytes for transfer buffer 4" if that were a real case, you're fishing in the dark.
[13:31:29] stuarta: yeah, need a vmcore to get anywhere with it
[13:32:50] lautriv: spybook + arch-linux + world-domination-daemon is asking for trouble ;)
[13:59:01] stuarta: ShapeShifter499: so where did we get to with testing, what works, and what doesn't?
[13:59:10] ** stuarta is confused **
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[14:06:11] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: your patch worked but me trying to use 'analogue to mpeg-2' seems to have caused a kernel panic which corrupted mythtv setup
[14:06:50] stuarta: oh right, what about the no audio?
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[14:29:52] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: I no idea, I cleared the mysql stuff and restarted but now I'm getting this.... Oct 08 07:29:02 chromebook-server mythbackend[3467]: 2015-10–08 07:29:02.440844 E NVR(/dev/video1): v4l2: Unable to set desired format
[14:30:07] ShapeShifter499: *no idea about the audio
[14:30:31] stuarta: right, that's using NVR, not v4l recorder
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[14:35:21] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: ok now I'm confused
[14:36:00] stuarta: me to
[14:36:00] ShapeShifter499: I had 'analogue' selected and that was giving me video, same thing selected after the crash but no video
[14:37:04] stuarta: so the change i did should (in theory) only affect recorders setup as V4L2
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[14:40:17] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: selecting analogue makes my card list as 'V4L2' in the list
[14:40:29] stuarta: oh okay
[14:40:44] ShapeShifter499: if I pick 'analogue to mpeg-2' it shows as a mpeg card
[14:40:57] stuarta: aha
[14:41:18] stuarta: i've been trying to get my laptop setup to record from my webcam, it's not playing yet
[14:41:36] stuarta: i really need to work on the setup side of things
[14:42:10] ShapeShifter499: I'm not sure how I got video playing at all
[14:42:32] ShapeShifter499: but for one glorious moment I had streaming to kodi on my android
[14:44:23] ShapeShifter499: sigh
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[15:03:09] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: any other ideas right now?
[15:04:36] stuarta: not right now, am drowning in "real work"
[15:10:15] ShapeShifter499: stuarta: ah sorry
[15:10:31] stuarta: np
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[15:28:32] lautriv: i observed some strange behaviour which may be related to the DB, had a power-outage and after all machines were up again the delay for data on mythweb and searchtime in frontends to list recordings is much longer. repair/optimize/check DB did not change anything .
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[15:51:53] ShapeShifter499: I dunno, I'll try this again later
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[16:14:01] lautriv: ShapeShifter499, if i had some analog sources i would compare but all thingies here are DVB-S(2)
[16:26:47] ** stuartm_ throws stuarta a buoyancy aid **
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[19:04:42] dekarl: ahh stuart a, how come you always look at tickets that I pushed ;)
[19:05:30] dekarl: I don't have V4L devices, maybe a webcam in one of the boxes but thats about it
[19:05:52] dekarl: But I can setup a PPA to tease users into testing.
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[20:21:37] stuarta: dekarl: it's not intentional ;-)
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[21:53:26] dekarl: warpme, something for changelog in minimyth2-master. I had to edit pxelinux.cfg/default when updating tonight (first time sind april/may), changing ramdisk_size=160000 to >162728. I used 163000. kernel crashed with "unable to mount root on unknown block".
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