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Wednesday, April 22nd, 2015, 00:36 UTC
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[01:54:13] stichnot: gigem: in ProgramInfo::QueryInputDisplayName(), when would the initial SELECT on recordedid fail and fall through to the SELECT on cardid?
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[08:02:39] stuarta: gary_buhrmaster: i can pretty much guarantee that gcc < 4 isn't going to work properly these days
[08:03:12] stuarta: of course that guarantee is based on speculation and guesswork
[08:04:50] Roklobsta: hand, arse, pull
[08:05:22] Roklobsta: how's the ESC key problem going?
[08:05:33] stuarta: which one's that?
[08:05:47] Roklobsta: oh ESC key doesn't do anything on MFE sometimes
[08:05:51] Roklobsta: it's a newey
[08:06:10] stuarta: i saw that last night
[08:06:25] stuarta: thought it was something i'd been hacking on, so ignored it
[08:06:45] stuarta: Roklobsta: you see it in live tv or watching recordings?
[08:06:52] Roklobsta: watching recordings
[08:07:01] Roklobsta: delete gets us back to the menu
[08:11:31] stuarta: didn't try that.
[08:11:51] stuarta: do you get a warning when you start up your frontend that the ESC key is bound to multiple actions ??
[08:11:57] Roklobsta: no
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[09:41:06] stuarta: thinking about #12423 maybe we should start saving a version.txt in the cache dir, and if it's not present, clear the cache to prevent segfaults
[09:41:06] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12423 **
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[10:22:41] warpme: stuarta: FYI: I'm trying to post on mythtv forums and I'm getting nginx error 50x.html
[10:25:30] stuarta: hmm, lemme check the logs
[10:28:13] stuarta: warpme: can you try again, i didn't have any logs from before for some reason
[10:28:43] warpme: still getting error
[10:28:56] stuarta: i didn't change anything, i just needed some error logs ;0
[10:29:42] warpme: ok just tried again. Nogo...
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[10:30:29] stuarta: warpme: try now
[10:30:29] warpme: error is: "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
[10:32:02] warpme: ok now works. thx!
[10:32:08] stuarta: np
[10:32:16] ** stuarta wonders how long that's been broken **
[10:32:52] warpme: heh – this is what I like about linux: 1180 video cards supported oob :-)
[10:33:17] stuarta: that'll explain why the visitor numbers have been declining in the stats :(
[10:34:04] warpme: hope decline is only temp/seasonal
[10:34:28] stuarta: hopefully
[10:35:51] warpme: issue with posting must be within last 1–2 days as at 21/04 I posted OK
[10:36:11] stuarta: weird
[10:36:28] warpme: what issue it was?
[10:37:01] stuarta: permissions on a tmp folder
[10:37:20] warpme: hah – as always :-p
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[10:37:49] stuarta: so probably been no new smolt profiles uploaded, as they always use the tmp file, but not all requests do
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[10:58:30] stuarta: sigh, i think google need to tweak their analytics. tells me to leverage browser caching on the forum, yet when you investigate, the item in question comes from google-analytic themselves. doh!
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[12:33:00] stichnot: me looking at Live TV tickets: http://i.imgur.com/ZnrxuG3.gif
[12:49:41] stuarta: hah
[12:51:23] stuarta: stichnot: i've been thinking about your lirc issue. i wonder if the newer lircd's talk to dbus, and the events are going to dbus?
[12:52:21] stichnot: that's kinda what I was suspecting, but my random googling didn't reveal anything
[12:52:58] stuarta: only way to prove or disprove, it to run dbus-monitor at the same time
[12:53:26] stuarta: in both working and non working cases
[12:55:27] stichnot: meaning latest master, with and without --disable-qtdbus ?
[12:55:39] stuarta: yes
[12:56:00] stuarta: capture the output of dbus-monitor to a file in both cases (it's pretty verbose)
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[13:09:43] stuarta: stichnot: you can also run the frontend with QDBUS_DEBUG=1 no idea what that will give you tho
[13:14:23] stichnot: stuarta: dbus-monitor output with --{enable,disable}-qtdbus. http://pastebin.com/axdHLS95
[13:14:32] stichnot: doesn't seem that helpful
[13:16:47] stuarta: did you try to send in some ir events in both?
[13:21:00] stichnot: yeah, in both cases I tried to bring up the program guide with the IR remote
[13:21:52] stuarta: :-/
[13:57:07] stichnot: stuarta: btw, what is the purpose of the recent dbus changes? is the idea to be able to disable the system screensaver from kicking in while watching a recording?
[13:57:30] stuarta: exactly that, the old methods plain don't work anymore
[13:57:59] stuarta: this works a treat, apart from your issue :-/
[14:00:22] stichnot: I see. Most likely, anyone using lirc has globally/permanently disabled the screensaver anyway...
[14:00:59] stichnot: (meaning --disable-qtdbus is a fine workaround until someone who knows more about lirc solves it)
[14:02:07] stuarta: i might have to get a remote just to work on it :(
[14:03:02] stuarta: or work out how to simulate it
[14:04:15] stichnot: heh, good luck finding an IR receiver that is actually lirc controllable and not whatever that newfangled protocol is
[14:04:42] stuarta: i've never taken any time to setup lirc, it's always been too much of a pain in the arse
[14:06:09] stichnot: right – when I first tried out MythTV, remote control setup/customization was the single largest chunk of time I spent
[14:06:37] stuarta: in the great big bucket wishlist is simple out of the box remote support
[14:07:58] stichnot: tall order, given the hundreds if not thousands of available remotes
[14:08:16] stichnot: unless we want to officially endorse just a handful
[14:08:30] stuarta: i'd start simple. standard mce remote only, anything else needs manual work
[14:08:57] stuarta: they are cheap and common enough now, as well as (relatively) standard
[14:09:34] stuarta: damn you amazon. no paypal support, and i have funds to cover an mce remote in paypal
[14:09:40] stichnot: that's true, and they have the right buttons plus a few more for customization
[14:11:12] stichnot: every time I have to buy an IR receiver, it comes with an MCE remote that I throw in a box because I only use old TiVo remotes
[14:11:43] stichnot: WAF is extremely low if every TV has a different remote
[14:13:53] stuarta: i've got remotes hanging around, dunno if i have a receiver tho :-/
[14:15:10] stichnot: I wonder if you can just use irsend to simulate
[14:19:22] stuarta: i think you can, i'll still need to setup lircd
[14:24:25] jheizer: I'm pretty sure 1/2 the myth distros became popular just because it let you skip lirc setup as they had done it already
[14:25:47] jheizer: Or at least that is why I used knoppmyth back in the day
[14:26:02] jheizer: With mythbuntu it is now a click and go item.
[14:30:50] stuarta: jheizer: do you use a remote on your systems?
[14:33:04] jheizer: Yes on all of them. I do similar to stichnot in that I buy MCE, throw the remote in the box, and use harmony remotes as MCE.
[14:33:38] stuarta: jheizer: in that case do you have a dev system which runs latest master on the frontend?
[14:33:50] jheizer: I don't have any physical machines with master though.
[14:33:56] stuarta: hmm, okay
[14:33:59] ** jheizer was too slow **
[14:34:53] jheizer: hmm, I could migrate the one to test that is you need.
[14:35:14] jheizer: It is rarely used so master on it for a day or 3 wouldn't be a problem. Just have to update my master guest so it has a backend.
[14:35:47] stuarta: i let you know if needed. i will do some digging in my mystery boxes to see what I have
[14:38:14] jheizer: Ok, sounds good.
[14:48:50] stuarta: boo, i have to wait until tomorrow to upgrade the ubuntu current builder to 15.04
[14:49:02] ** stuarta sets mode +impatient **
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[15:02:14] dizygoth: stichnot: How are you going to handle LASTPLAYPOS wrt Gallery videos ?
[15:03:12] dizygoth: Gallery just chucks them at HandleMedia. After that they're indistinguishable from MythVideo vids
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[16:08:08] dizygoth: stichnot: The Gallery issue is that, after exiting a video, it forever resumes from the last-played-pos
[16:10:41] dizygoth: stichnot: I think your new 'ignore' flags need adding to mythfrontend/main::internal_media_player when useBookmark=false
[16:11:14] dizygoth: stichnot: Probably mythavtest as well, when file args supplied
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[16:32:22] gigem: stichnot: Sorry for not seeing your question earlier. cardid will be used instead recordedid pretty much everywhere except playback box. EPG and upcoming, for example. You can't pull from recorded what hasn't been written there yet!
[17:10:24] dekarl: stuarta, I like how Kodi does it with e.g. tha Nyxboard (but that was pulled from the market because of reasons). I wonder if QT can handle multimedia keys in the mean time when running under X11 so we could just use the mapping from the input framework.
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[17:52:54] stuarta: dekarl: well these days the ir receivers inject events direct into X
[17:53:04] stuarta: anytime, time for server maintenance. back later
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[18:56:00] stuartm: dekarl: QT uses X11 on linux, and X11 doesn't support anything with a keycode greater than 256
[18:58:44] stuartm: AFAIK, nothing therefore on linux can use the extended range of multimedia keys without remapping at the X/Driver level or possibly listening directly to the device node, Jarod Wilson and I spent a lot of time looking for workarounds without much luck
[18:59:23] stuartm: X11 must die, it's a 24 year old protocol :(
[19:04:55] dekarl: Is it just me or is that something that a cross platform framework could take care of for me?
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[22:28:33] stichnot: gigem: thanks. That explains why I couldn't see that query when testing Watch Recordings and Previously Recorded.
[22:37:05] stichnot: But for the PBB, it seems I could just add record.recordedid to the main kFromRecordedQuery query and avoid 4000 (my number of recordings) individual queries for recordedid.
[22:42:12] stichnot: sorry I meant add recorded.inputname not record.recordedid
[22:48:53] stichnot: and then ProgramInfo::ToMap() could use the presence of recordedid to decide whether to use the already-fetched inputname, versus calling the expensive QueryInputDisplayName()
[22:51:18] stichnot: dizygoth: I hadn't thought about Gallery playback at all. But it sounds like what is really needed is sane handling of bookmarking?
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