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[10:52:57] | peper03: | Someone on the -users mailing list mentioned about respecting the parental controls when accessing videos via the ServicesAPI – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/585414#585414 |
[10:54:35] | peper03: | Parental controls are currently handled by the frontend/client, aren't they? |
[10:56:01] | peper03: | That seems to be the wrong way round. If it's up to a frontend or client to implement access restrictions, all you have to do to get round it is install a new client. |
[11:04:57] | stuartm: | peper03: yes, and the parental controls are largely useless since the passwords are stored in plain text in the database etc |
[11:05:14] | stuartm: | so a saavy 10+ year old can easily bypass them |
[11:06:45] | stuartm: | the plan is to replace those one-off pin codes with a user/permissions based system, the absolute basics of which I committed recently, not complete yet |
[11:08:40] | peper03: | stuartm: Does it need the complexity of user/pemissions? Wouldn't it be enough to keep the existing idea but make the password for each level global rather than per client? |
[11:09:19] | peper03: | The backend would only return information if the appropriate password had been provided. |
[11:11:07] | peper03: | Storing the hash of the password should hide it sufficiently, I would have thought. |
[11:13:02] | peper03: | Ideally the password hash shouldn't be transmitted completely in the clear but there's a limit at some point. |
[11:14:01] | peper03: | We're not trying to prevent sophisticated hackers from stealing trade-secrets or the like but what we have at the moment is more at the other extreme. |
[11:15:30] | stuartm: | peper03: we need it for the webfrontend |
[11:15:41] | stuartm: | and it's one of the most requested features |
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[11:18:00] | stuartm: | whether people want to use it for managing access on a shared frontend – i.e. main tv is up to them, but generally for frontends in kids playrooms/bedrooms the idea would be that it would be permanently logged in to a single user |
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[11:20:05] | stuartm: | for the 'family' tv, I suppose a family account during the day, adult account at night ... or time based permissions i.e. no adult programming would be accessible on the 'family' account before 9/10pm, similarly kids frontends could be configured to limit the hours at which they can be used and how long for – but that's all getting way ahead of myself |
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[11:22:14] | stuartm: | for the parental level stuff it might seem overkill, but since we're implementing it for other reasons anyway, it makes more sense to have a single access control system instead of multiple |
[11:22:58] | peper03: | The users and permissions are purely MythTV implementations, though? Not based on the username of the account runnng the frontend? |
[11:23:21] | stuartm: | fwiw, the user stuff I've started implementing uses digest authentication, so the 'hash' changes with every use and there is no need for wire-level encryption |
[11:23:29] | stuartm: | peper03: correct |
[11:25:25] | peper03: | Ok. As long as it's done by the backend rather than requiring each and every frontend/client to implement it, it'll be better than what we have now. |
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[11:26:32] | peper03: | And I completely agree that it doesn't make sense to have multiple control systems. |
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[15:03:22] | stichnot: | Can anyone help me understand #12328 ? This involves a "V4L" recorder which is creating a .nuv file. Apparently that recorder isn't taking the code path in dtvrecorder.cpp that delays writing any data until encountering the first keyframe (at which point it sends the REC_STARTED_WRITING event that the OP is looking for). Any ideas about what kind of recorder this might be, and why it... |
[15:03:22] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12328 ** | |
[15:03:23] | stichnot: | ...wouldn't want to wait for the first keyframe to start writing? |
[15:05:27] | stichnot: | It's possible that capturecard.dvb_wait_for_seqstart in the DB is controlling this behavior, but I'm not sure what code path would cause that column (whose default value is 1) to be 0. |
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[15:30:26] | stichnot: | jpabq_: wondering if you have any ideas here? ^^^ |
[15:33:27] | gary_buhrmaster: | stichnot: Out of curiousity, are you able to reproduce the results with your HVR-1950 (on its V4L side)? |
[15:37:04] | paul-h: | If it's creating a nuv then I'd assume it's a simple frame grabber so will there be any keyframes to wait for? |
[15:38:36] | stichnot: | gary_buhrmaster: interesting... I should set that up in my new backend |
[15:39:47] | stichnot: | paul-h: I don't know how frame grabbers work. They don't produce keyframes?? |
[15:42:08] | paul-h: | TBH I've never used one so not sure but I think they just grab the raw frames and encode them to either mjpeg or mp4 depending on how it's set up |
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[19:16:23] | skd5aner: | anyone having issues with HLS in .27? I think I'm getting bitten by this bug, and all new HLS transcodes are unplayable https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12430 |
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