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[10:52:57] peper03: Someone on the -users mailing list mentioned about respecting the parental controls when accessing videos via the ServicesAPI  – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/585414#585414
[10:54:35] peper03: Parental controls are currently handled by the frontend/client, aren't they?
[10:56:01] peper03: That seems to be the wrong way round. If it's up to a frontend or client to implement access restrictions, all you have to do to get round it is install a new client.
[11:04:57] stuartm: peper03: yes, and the parental controls are largely useless since the passwords are stored in plain text in the database etc
[11:05:14] stuartm: so a saavy 10+ year old can easily bypass them
[11:06:45] stuartm: the plan is to replace those one-off pin codes with a user/permissions based system, the absolute basics of which I committed recently, not complete yet
[11:08:40] peper03: stuartm: Does it need the complexity of user/pemissions? Wouldn't it be enough to keep the existing idea but make the password for each level global rather than per client?
[11:09:19] peper03: The backend would only return information if the appropriate password had been provided.
[11:11:07] peper03: Storing the hash of the password should hide it sufficiently, I would have thought.
[11:13:02] peper03: Ideally the password hash shouldn't be transmitted completely in the clear but there's a limit at some point.
[11:14:01] peper03: We're not trying to prevent sophisticated hackers from stealing trade-secrets or the like but what we have at the moment is more at the other extreme.
[11:15:30] stuartm: peper03: we need it for the webfrontend
[11:15:41] stuartm: and it's one of the most requested features
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[11:18:00] stuartm: whether people want to use it for managing access on a shared frontend – i.e. main tv is up to them, but generally for frontends in kids playrooms/bedrooms the idea would be that it would be permanently logged in to a single user
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[11:20:05] stuartm: for the 'family' tv, I suppose a family account during the day, adult account at night ... or time based permissions i.e. no adult programming would be accessible on the 'family' account before 9/10pm, similarly kids frontends could be configured to limit the hours at which they can be used and how long for – but that's all getting way ahead of myself
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[11:22:14] stuartm: for the parental level stuff it might seem overkill, but since we're implementing it for other reasons anyway, it makes more sense to have a single access control system instead of multiple
[11:22:58] peper03: The users and permissions are purely MythTV implementations, though? Not based on the username of the account runnng the frontend?
[11:23:21] stuartm: fwiw, the user stuff I've started implementing uses digest authentication, so the 'hash' changes with every use and there is no need for wire-level encryption
[11:23:29] stuartm: peper03: correct
[11:25:25] peper03: Ok. As long as it's done by the backend rather than requiring each and every frontend/client to implement it, it'll be better than what we have now.
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[11:26:32] peper03: And I completely agree that it doesn't make sense to have multiple control systems.
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[15:03:22] stichnot: Can anyone help me understand #12328 ? This involves a "V4L" recorder which is creating a .nuv file. Apparently that recorder isn't taking the code path in dtvrecorder.cpp that delays writing any data until encountering the first keyframe (at which point it sends the REC_STARTED_WRITING event that the OP is looking for). Any ideas about what kind of recorder this might be, and why it...
[15:03:22] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12328 **
[15:03:23] stichnot: ...wouldn't want to wait for the first keyframe to start writing?
[15:05:27] stichnot: It's possible that capturecard.dvb_wait_for_seqstart in the DB is controlling this behavior, but I'm not sure what code path would cause that column (whose default value is 1) to be 0.
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[15:30:26] stichnot: jpabq_: wondering if you have any ideas here? ^^^
[15:33:27] gary_buhrmaster: stichnot: Out of curiousity, are you able to reproduce the results with your HVR-1950 (on its V4L side)?
[15:37:04] paul-h: If it's creating a nuv then I'd assume it's a simple frame grabber so will there be any keyframes to wait for?
[15:38:36] stichnot: gary_buhrmaster: interesting... I should set that up in my new backend
[15:39:47] stichnot: paul-h: I don't know how frame grabbers work. They don't produce keyframes??
[15:42:08] paul-h: TBH I've never used one so not sure but I think they just grab the raw frames and encode them to either mjpeg or mp4 depending on how it's set up
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[19:16:23] skd5aner: anyone having issues with HLS in .27? I think I'm getting bitten by this bug, and all new HLS transcodes are unplayable https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12430
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