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Wednesday, April 1st, 2015, 00:25 UTC

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Hydr0p0nX:

i'm all for providing a build box / webhost for the windows builds

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stuarta:

tgm4883: we are already building master on 14.04 lts against qt5

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** stuarta realizes his ubuntu-current builder is actually still running 14.04 != current **

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** stuartm has a sinking feeling **

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stuartm:

(pneumatic valve is broken on chair)

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stuarta:

doh

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** stuarta brings a few builders kicking and screaming up to date **

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MythBuild:

build #1056 of master-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed configure core compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1056 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >, Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com >

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stuartm:

ah well, guess that proves the configure check is working

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stuarta:

:)

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: ^^ freebsd builder needs updating to use qt5

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stuarta:

i'll kill off the wheezy builder from the config later

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stuarta:

once i've built one for jessie

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stuarta:

is there any interest in an opensuse builder?

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stuarta:

i'm leaning towards no

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stuarta:

well according to smolt it does have more users than debian. 26 vs 18 (compared to 8026 for ubuntu)

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stuarta:

linhes has even more

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stuarta:

other shows linux mint having 212 users (101 for 17, 111 for 17.1)

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stuarta:

so that's worth installing

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** stuarta adds to rainy day list **

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stuartm:

IMHO it's down to how different one distro is from another, there's no point having an opensuse, or mint build if they don't actually do anything 'unusual' in their build chain

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stuarta:

good point

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stuarta:

mint ~= ubuntu anyway

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stuarta:

by that theory we probably should have gentoo.

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dekarl:

Gentoo? Does anyone care about that? https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/pull/33 has been sitting around for 2.5 years now.

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stuarta:

i do think we should start being a *bit* more responsive to submitted requests

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dekarl:

An Android buildbot might come in handy though. https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/pull/48

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stuarta:

dekarl: when you have created one, let me know, and i'll add it to the build network

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stuarta:

:-p

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dekarl:

sure, that would be soon[tm] :D

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** stuarta chuckles **

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stuarta:

come on cppcheck build. finish already

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dekarl:

meh, the translation pull requests are still idling about after ~3months

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stuartm:

dekarl: they always do, knightr/kenni prefer not to commit them while master is in flux

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dekarl:

stuartm, so we need to release more often?

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dekarl:

having contributions hang around for years *on purpose* sounds not very inviting for more contributions

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stuarta:

my thoughts exactly

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stuarta:

we are never going to attract new devs if stuff people do do, sits unloved for months or years

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stuartm:

dekarl: well maybe – the issue delaying this particular release was that it wasn't seen as particularly helpful to keep releasing stuff with unfinished features

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stuartm:

that and there was a desire to just call it 1.0 already, but we couldn't really call it 1.0 without having something to show for the release – if 1.0 was just 0.27 + fixes and some minor changes that would have less of an impact than having stuff like the WebFrontend, setup improvements etc to announce alongside

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stuartm:

of course when it was proposed I did think there would be more people working on those things than there are today

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stuarta:

i'm still not sure i can be arsed with a 1.0

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stuartm:

stuarta: it's a meaningless distinction to me, but it matters to others

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stuarta:

others can start coding and helping out

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dekarl:

We can always follow the browsers and remove the 0. prefix so we go from 0.27 to 28.0 :D

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** stuarta hurts dekarl **

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stuartm:

and I can sort of see the argument that having a major version number of 0 gives the impression of a pre-release product

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dekarl:

ok, then 28 without .0?

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stuarta:

i'd rather do 1.0

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dekarl:

Ahh, but 1.0 suggests a finished and polished product ;)

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stuarta:

28 suggests 27 turds in it's history

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stuarta:

doh. must authorize new builder

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markspieth:

dekarl: if you need help/advice setting up android build let me know

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dekarl:

markspieth: the reference to soon[tm] was ironically. The kind of soon that is anything but soon :/

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markspieth:

lol

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dekarl:

We take buildbots from contributors, too (hint hint)

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dekarl:

stuarta, we do, do we?

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markspieth:

havent done that before but did help dtk set up mingw a while back

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stuarta:

dekarl: yes we do

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stuarta:

which is why garyb is providing 4

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stuarta:

markspieth: it's basically setup a server which can build mythtv and add buildslave to it

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stuarta:

most distros have packages for it now

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stuarta:

then talk to me and i'll sort the access and hook it in

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markspieth:

ok Ill look into it

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stuarta:

markspieth: i've even got ansible playbooks for it

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markspieth:

still ironing out playback issues

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stuarta:

https://github.com/MythTV/ansible

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markspieth:

thanks. will check it out tomorrow or over easter

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markspieth:

bed time

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stuarta:

nn

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tgm4883:

stuarta: I know. My question was a misunderstanding on what was being said

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stuarta:

:)

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jheizer:

If you ever need any more build slaves, especially if deb based since I'm more familiar, let me know. I've got the room and power to run a few.

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stuarta:

jheizer: more are always welcome. i've just spun up a jessie one

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stuarta:

happy to hand that over to you

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jheizer:

I can if you want.

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stuartm:

ffs, those coverity defects which mysteriously disappeared in the previous build have reappeared to spoil the stats

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jheizer:

You've already got a bunch running it seems and the ansible should make it a piece of cake.

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stuarta:

jheizer: https://github.com/MythTV/ansible :)

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jheizer:

yup, was already there

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stuarta:

it's now basically, install os, run playbooks, get me to hook it all up

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jheizer:

Sounds good. Installing. Will check in in and hour or 3.

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** stuarta ponders recycling the 32bit wheezy builder and replacing with jessie 32bit **

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stuartm:

heh, so Coverity are offering prizes (toys) to developers who nominate "a defect that you are glad was found by Coverity Scan"

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stuartm:

"Three submissions will be selected to be featured. Selected submissions will receive a special gift from Coverity!"

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stuartm:

don't want any of the prizes myself, but I guess they can always be put up on ebay

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jheizer:

stuarta, PLAY RECAP ********************************************************************

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jheizer:

localhost : ok=15 changed=14 unreachable=0 failed=0

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stuarta:

jheizer: sounds about right

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jheizer:

It went a lot faster than I thought it would.

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stuarta:

which playbook did you run? buildslave.yml

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jheizer:

buildslave-qt5.yml

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stuarta:

ok. that's fine 0.27 still builds under qt5

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stuarta:

-still

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jheizer:

ah, didn't know if you desire was master or .27

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stuarta:

the builders do both

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jheizer:

ah nice

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stuarta:

as well as 027candidates

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jheizer:

bursting to 4gb ram enough?

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stuarta:

more than enough, i was using 2G, have gone down to 1.5G so i don't waste memory

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stuarta:

typically i use 8Gb OS, 50 Gb /home setup (allows multiple builds to coexist with plenty of headroom)

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jheizer:

oh snap, didn't give it enough storage then and I'll have to move it off the SSD

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stuarta:

what did you give it?

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jheizer:

14gb

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jheizer:

no problem, can expand it

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stuarta:

yeah, cause the ccache will end up taking up to 6Gb on it's own

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** stuarta checks centos box **

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stuarta:

ccache is using 1.7G /home 14G

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stuarta:

that's with 4 builds presetnt

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stuarta:

present

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MythBuild:

build #1 of master-debian-jessie-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . bit/builds/1

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maarhart:

hi, I usally was able to find movies in manage recordings -> search lists -> movies, but not anymore, I just get an empty list; now I have to search words -> keywords. I don't know what is the issue, but maybe you could help me with that?

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stuartm:

maarhart: it depends on the guide data marking them correctly, and on us being able to translate from the native word

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stuartm:

looking at the program table, what 'category' do films have? what is the 'category_type' value?

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maarhart:

how do I know that?

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maarhart:

well, in finland it usually says elokuva (film) or kino (movie theater)

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maarhart:

what do you mean with the program table?

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jheizer:

stuarta, back up

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stuarta:

:)

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maarhart:

but what could I have changed? Is it related with this EIT versus schedules direct? could it be related with these changes in schedules direct announced in the website?

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stuartm:

maarhart: well that depends on how you get your guide data, xmltv or EIT

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stuartm:

it could also be affected by a change in the translation file, but those don't get altered on stable releases

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stuartm:

there may have been new EIT fixups committed which broke it

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maarhart:

the frontend is in english language. would this be related?

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maarhart:

ok, maybe it is that, I think I was using eit before

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stuarta:

MythBuild: force build master-debian-jessie-64bit jheizer's new slave

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MythBuild:

Something bad happened (see logs)

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stuarta:

MythBuild: force build master-debian-jessie-64bit jheizers new slave

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MythBuild:

build #3 forced

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MythBuild:

I'll give a shout when the build finishes

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stuarta:

stupid non quoting

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jheizer:

haha

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jheizer:

I see it pulling git

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jheizer:

swinging 2–6MBit/s

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stuarta:

the first build will take quite a while for each branch, as it does a complete git checkout and then build with empty ccache

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jheizer:

yeah

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stuarta:

subsequent builds will be faster

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jheizer:

letting it burst to 6 cores and 2GB ram

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jheizer:

see how that does

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stuarta:

won't help, as the make for the buildslaves doesn't include -j flag

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jheizer:

ahh

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stuarta:

how it would help is i've limited it to 1 build at a time

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stuarta:

with 6 cores, i could remove that restriction

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stuarta:

still really only needs 1 core per build

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jheizer:

if you want to bump it to 2 that'd be ok, if not 1 at a time is fine

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jheizer:

not a biggie

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jheizer:

my do everything server so probably not a bad idea to leave it at one anyway

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stuarta:

i normally set it to one so we don't crucify io on a host

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stuarta:

as quite often the hosts end up with 4–5 builders

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stuarta:

= 8–10 parallel builds = io carnage

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jheizer:

hahaha

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stuarta:

we aren't really in a rush here ;-)

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jheizer:

yeah, the drives I put that on would not love that since they also do recordings at times

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stuarta:

1 is plenty then

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stuarta:

feel free to add a nice -19 to the buildslave startup script

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jheizer:

guest only has 2 cores of how the host's 8 so should be ok

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jheizer:

*now

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stuarta:

nice

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stuartm:

wait, those builder's are using a single core?

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** stuartm is depressed **

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stuartm:

they are all faster than my machine using two cores

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** stuartm needs new kit **

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** stuartm needs more money **

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dekarl:

maarhart: I'm confused. You are in finland? So your options would be EIT or xmltv (likely from xmltv.se?). Schedules Direct and its changes should be of no issue.

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dekarl:

The fixups for finland don't really do anything to add the program_type='movie' information

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MythBuild:

Hey! build master-debian-jessie-64bit #3 is complete: Success [3build successful]

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3 **

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MythBuild:

Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . bit/builds/3

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dekarl:

The 'program' table is the guide table in the database. It carries the category_type (synonym for program_type).

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dekarl:

I fixed the EIT parser to not set type to 'movie' for the generic DVB genres (because its wrong) but that went only into master, not into any release.

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dekarl:

https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/9c6fe . . . f7b38dd290d1

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dekarl:

we had some voodoo code in there to undo the breakage of setting type to 'movie' for finland https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . up.cpp#L2006

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dekarl:

If you can provide some samples of actual EIT sections that contain hints on something being a movie/series, then we can work something out.

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dekarl:

maarhart: Are you testing the SchedulesDirect JSON grabber for Finland? If so, does it work? How's the data compared to EIT / xmltv.se?

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maarhart:

dekarl: just let us finish this movie so my girlfriend leaves and I can compare

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maarhart:

okay I can do the comparison. I will just run mythfilldatabase

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BLZbubba:

any idea how much work it would be to allow mythtv subtitles to display characters such as ç and é ? the font in the osd xml file definitely supports them but mythtv shows a ?

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maarhart:

I get datadirect error

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maarhart:

it fails in getting data

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maarhart:

download error

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stuartm:

BLZbubba: add a charset declaration to the xml

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stuartm:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

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stuartm:

BLZbubba: sorry, mis-read what you wrote, what sort of subtitles are we talking about?

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stuartm:

DVB, CC 608, CC 708, DVD, Blu-ray, Teletext, external xml?

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BLZbubba:

stuartm: srt file

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BLZbubba:

terminal font and mythtv font are both Ubuntu and the characters look ok in vi

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BLZbubba:

not sure if that is a thorough enough test

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stuartm:

not very familiar familiar with the format, but it looks like we try to guess the encoding, although it can be forced since by default srt officially only supports Latin1 encodings ... wonder if it's mis-detecting it

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BLZbubba:

i'll poke around in the detection code and see if I can figure it out

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BLZbubba:

thanks for the hint

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stuartm:

there is a setting "Subtitle Codec" in the OSD settings

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BLZbubba:

hmm i'd expect the default utf8 to be adequate for the french characters

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stuartm:

characters such as ç é ã should be in the Latin 1 charset, since they are all latin language characters – Italian, Spanish, Portuguese etc

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stuartm:

but since utf-8 and latin-1 overlap on those anyway it shouldn't matter which character encoding is used for parsing the file

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stuartm:

BLZbubba: you could try enabling extra logging with -v vbi

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stuartm:

might reveal something

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BLZbubba:

ok i'll try that too, thanks

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stuartm:

of course it's possible that the encoding of the SRT file is neither latin 1 nor utf-8

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BLZbubba:

easy enough to check

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stuartm:

assuming I'm looking at the right code we attempt to auto-detect the codec using https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtextcodec.html#codecForUtfText

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stuartm:

which supports an impressive number of codecs, but detecting codecs correctly can be tricky – and this assumes that I'm write and it's an encoding issue and not the font as you first suggested

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stuartm:

s/write/right/

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BLZbubba:

encoding is infinitely easier to check so i'll look at that first

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stuartm:

the extra logging should tell you what codec MythTV thinks it's using

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BLZbubba:

the coding appears correct, i cut everything from one of the srt files except é and the hex value is E9

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BLZbubba:

when i get home i'll look at what -v vbi has to say. thanks again!

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stuartm:

pas de problème

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BLZbubba:

heh

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BLZbubba:

on an unrelated note, is there an easy way to add a schedule for a show that isn't in the listings? it last aired in december and i don't want to miss the next season

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stuartm:

search rule maybe?

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stuartm:

Search Lists > Title – search for the title (doesn't matter that there are no matches), then pick the option to create rule based on that search

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BLZbubba:

cool ty. i have to stop using mythweb so much :P

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stuarta:

stuartm: yeah, sadly all my builders at least are configure with a single cpu

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stuartm:

same option will exist in the WebFrontend, can't remember if it was present in any form in mythweb

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BLZbubba:

i need to pay more attention, never heard of webfrontend. it looks nice

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stuartm:

QUrl seems very broken in QT5 :/ It's broken upnp completely and I still haven't worked out why

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