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Friday, February 27th, 2015, 00:03 UTC
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[08:58:37] stuarta: morning all
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[15:18:26] stuartm: dblain: what's the InternetContent extension all about?
[15:26:53] stuartm: ok, some sort of proxy for MythNetvision
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[21:41:25] maarhart: hi, I can only start mythbackend if internet is disabled. How to avoid this?
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[21:57:07] stuartm: huh?
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[21:57:53] maarhart: yeah, I disable wifi to run mythbackend
[21:58:02] stuartm: maarhart: what errors are you getting?
[21:58:44] maarhart: 2015-02–27 23:58:27.945693 E Failed listening on TCP [fe80::223:12ff:fe02:2c85%wlan0]:6543 – Error 9: The address is not available
[21:58:44] maarhart:
[21:59:19] maarhart: 2015-02–27 23:58:27.944433 E MediaServer: HttpServer Create Error
[21:59:19] maarhart:
[21:59:49] dekarl1: jheizer: re net neutrality https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1dniAyu5OGW . . . M/view?pli=1 meanwhile in germany: "our new contract forbids routing traffic for AS3320 – Deutsche Telekom – and AS5511 – France Telecom. Such clauses are common. But within some days the transatlantic cable will be fixed so the traffic germany->usa->germany will be fast again"
[21:59:49] maarhart: it will however do fine if I disable wifi.
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[22:00:31] stuartm: stuarta: ^^
[22:01:35] jheizer: dekarl, lovely.
[22:02:56] maarhart: stuartm: any ideas?
[22:03:06] jheizer: Stories today are every ISP is filing lawsuits against the gov. I guess they can work together sometimes.
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[22:05:02] stuartm: maarhart: other than taking out a hit on the guys who did such a lousy job designing IPv6? It may not like the scope ID in the IP, but I'm really just guessing as I don't know IPv6 well enough
[22:05:40] stuartm: it's not a general issue that I'm aware of, lots of users are running mythbackend with IPv6 enabled
[22:06:32] stuartm: in fact, it's not the scope ID, it has no problem with that here – Listening on TCP [fe80::222:15ff:fed2:b2f7%eth0]:6544
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[22:07:40] maarhart: mm ok
[22:07:42] stuartm: maarhart: for some reason your system is listing that address as available but it's not letting it be used
[22:08:42] stuartm: I have no idea why that might happen – what does ifconfig say?
[22:09:00] maarhart: so in mythtv-setup I have ::1 as ipv6 address. is that what I should do?
[22:09:10] jheizer: Weird. Mine is also listening on 6 device specific ipv6 addresses.
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[22:09:25] jheizer: w.o problem
[22:09:27] jheizer: w/o
[22:10:10] stuartm: maarhart: that should be OK
[22:10:32] maarhart: wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:23:12:02:2c:85
[22:10:32] maarhart: inet addr:192.168.10.39 Bcast:192.168.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[22:10:32] maarhart: inet6 addr: fe80::223:12ff:fe02:2c85/64 Scope:Link
[22:10:32] maarhart:
[22:10:54] jheizer: Is it currently connected to a wifi network?
[22:11:02] maarhart: yes
[22:11:29] stuartm: so the IP address is correct
[22:11:46] stuartm: as is the scope id
[22:12:49] maarhart: 2015-02–27 23:58:27.944136 I Listening on TCP 127.0.0.1:6544
[22:12:50] maarhart: 2015-02–27 23:58:27.944236 I Listening on TCP [::1]:6544
[22:12:50] maarhart: 2015-02–27 23:58:27.944321 E Failed listening on TCP [fe80::223:12ff:fe02:2c85%wlan0]:6544 – Error 9: The address is not available
[22:12:50] maarhart:
[22:12:50] stuartm: maarhart: hmm, another possibility is that there is already something listening on that port? netstat -atunp | grep 6543
[22:12:59] maarhart: should it be 6543?
[22:13:29] stuartm: maarhart: no, mythbackend listens on multiple ports – 6543 is the internal protocol port, 6544 is the http port
[22:13:31] maarhart: is status port supposed to be 6543 or 6544?
[22:13:40] maarhart: ok
[22:13:56] stuartm: what was formally called the status port should be 6544
[22:14:36] stuartm: 6543 is the port over which mythfrontend, slaves and some other clients connect
[22:15:23] maarhart: (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
[22:15:24] maarhart: will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
[22:15:24] maarhart:
[22:15:26] stuartm: there are no security apps running which might prevent listening on ports?
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[22:15:59] maarhart: sudo confirms there is nothing listening
[22:16:17] maarhart: nope, it is a default ubuntu installation
[22:16:43] stuartm: tgm4883: Have you come across this before with other ubuntu users?
[22:19:14] maarhart: the second issue is that the youtube grabber does not work for me. other grabbers, say nature, do work, but youtube just shows a blank screen. it works fine in firefox
[22:20:34] stuartm: it's possible that they've changed the API, or that there are region issues, I don't use it and it's not my department
[22:22:12] maarhart: ok
[22:23:18] maarhart: so my mythbackend issue will remain a mystery I suppose?
[22:26:50] stuartm: maarhart: someone will have a clue, but you may have to be patient – it's something system related, not MythTV
[22:27:29] stuartm: or at least that's the way it looks, the IP is advertised, but something is preventing us from binding to it
[22:27:38] maarhart: I thried editing my /etc/rc.local so that it would execute mythbackend before it connects to internet
[22:27:52] maarhart: *tried
[22:28:17] maarhart: /usr/bin/mythbackend
[22:28:19] maarhart: exit 0
[22:28:36] maarhart: it did not do the trick
[22:29:29] clever: the RC system runs rc.local last, after it connects to the internet
[22:30:50] maarhart: clever: ok, so what would be a better alternative?
[22:31:14] clever: use the RC system properly, give mythbackend a priority that starts it before eth0
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[22:35:23] maarhart: clever: more specifically, what should I do?
[22:35:41] clever: i dont know which RC system your using, so i cant help any moe
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[22:40:59] maarhart: ok, no idea, latest ubuntu.
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[23:16:47] stuartm: maarhart: which version of QT are you using? qtconfig --version
[23:22:33] maarhart: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qtconfig': No such file or directory
[23:22:40] maarhart: what should I do?
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[23:30:13] maarhart: okay, now I have qtconfig-qt4
[23:34:46] tgm4883: stuartm: did you guys get it figured out? In on my phone right now
[23:37:38] stuartm: no, although I'm looking at committing a workaround
[23:39:27] maarhart: well, I shall get some sleep, sorry
[23:39:32] stuartm: two years ago a workaround was actually committed for a similar case, in that case it was a network device that disappeared after startup
[23:40:28] stuartm: but for some reason that workaround used different logic for TCP connections to UDP connections, it seems like the same fix should have been applied to both
[23:41:23] maarhart: good night
[23:41:35] stuartm: it doesn't explain why we can't listen on the address, I'm guessing that has something to do with it being a wifi device, perhaps it's dropping the connection briefly after startup
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