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Tuesday, February 24th, 2015, 00:03 UTC
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[06:44:59] dym: :D Roklobsta that's exactly what's already standing here, virtualizing things :D
[07:05:56] dym: it's just so "big" and cluttering up the Rack – https://www.dropbox.com/s/57ivnnewtl6zspp/Fot . . . 017.jpg?dl=0
[07:08:31] dym: i actually now wish i'd have invested in a 19" UPS instead of this standing up one
[07:11:59] dym: wow okay – so the G8 eats 16GB Ram and an E3?
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[07:31:39] Roklobsta: dym: ah so
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[07:37:36] dym: yes so :)
[07:37:53] dym: i might consider a bigger rack for this purpose
[07:38:08] dym: hopefully without losing points in the WAF
[07:51:21] dekarl: pro-tipp: to raise the WAF add nice doors that hide the mess :D
[07:53:02] dekarl: or maybe find some inspiration how to mount all the kits in a nice way here http://m0n0.ch/wall/gallery.php
[07:58:00] dekarl: on saturday I dismanteled a nice setup of mythtv backend, DVB-C amp/splitter with USB tuners directly attached to the amp, DSL and telephone stuff (for 4 people) that was mounted on a board with a cable duct. should have taken a picture :/
[08:02:40] dekarl: similar to this http://m0n0.ch/wall/gallery/247.jpg with the backend computer standing next to it connected to USB/LAN
[08:05:48] dekarl: just mount the cable duct + small boxes to your 19" board. maybe replace it with a drawer for easy maintenance
[08:16:31] dym: mhhh
[08:16:41] dekarl: kormoc: mind if I do this to all our php files? https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/commit/3119 . . . af8844509fbb
[08:16:57] dym: i actually wish i could hide it some more. which is why i bought the 19" plate for the modems to sit on
[08:19:12] Roklobsta: dym: you have too many network ports
[08:19:20] dym: :D
[08:19:29] dym: as for now, yes
[08:19:30] dym: :)
[08:19:49] dym: thing is: this is a very small room
[08:20:10] dym: and behind the rack is where all the house water intake/electricity/etc. lies
[08:20:16] dym: which is why the rack has to be movable
[08:21:04] dym: Roklobsta: I bought 2 of the HP switches for future VLANing
[08:21:32] dym: i probably need at least another 19" mounting plate to place the HDHR and the ALIX on
[08:21:46] dym: maintenance in this rack sucks ass anyways
[08:22:29] dym: and another HP Microserver would really make a space-wise mess.
[08:22:38] dym: which is why i'd love something 19"
[08:23:35] dym: also she can never know how much i've already spent on house-internal network + tv :D
[08:24:03] dym: i get the regular: "This is not working again! Why cant we just have a standard cable receiver like everyone else?"
[08:24:14] dym: the: "because this is more versatile" answer is kinda worn out :D
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[09:33:11] stuarta: Roklobsta: why do you need a max limit of 10k on #12221 ???
[09:33:11] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12221 **
[09:36:57] stuarta: Roklobsta: is 2k not sufficient?
[10:01:12] Roklobsta: i suspect my afatech cards need more than 2secs because of the issue with the multiplexed i2c bus. i'd like to test the idea out
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[10:06:00] stuarta: Roklobsta: to test, can you just manually update the db table with the value you need until you find what works?
[10:06:19] stuarta: then i can set the max to just above that
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[10:06:40] stuarta: 10s is a ridiculously long time for a dvb card to tune
[10:08:26] Roklobsta: yeah as long as there aren't any magic numbers in the code that impose a limit
[10:08:48] stuarta: pretty sure it's only the spinbox which allows you to set it
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[14:02:12] ** stuarta records something from the Astra UHD test channel for fun **
[14:05:35] jheizer: That's cool. I don't think there is any way to get 4k in any form here.
[14:05:54] stuarta: whether it's proper 4k remains to be determined
[14:06:08] jheizer: Side note, am I the only one annoyed we switched from height to wide for the resolution "number"
[14:07:11] jheizer: The only positive being people can't say 2k (2160p) for both 4096 x 2160 and 3840 X 2160
[14:07:54] stuarta: clueless idiocy to the rescue again
[14:12:45] stuartm: I wasn't much impressed with the screenshot I saw of the UHD test channel, but maybe it looks better as video
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[14:16:44] jheizer: My highest resolution display in the house is 1920x1200. Only 4k video I've seen have been meh from my phone.
[14:19:42] stuarta: heh
[14:21:42] stuarta: man there is some collected dust in our ticketing system
[14:21:58] stuarta: stuff raised against 0.22-fixes?
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[17:10:17] dekarl-work: jheizer, does that mean that film and video have finally converged?
[17:10:48] dekarl-work: when I hear 2k I think of a digital scan of a 35mm reel
[17:11:06] dekarl-work: with various strange pixel aspect ratios
[17:11:52] jheizer: I'm not sure to be honest. I have limited knowledge on the subject.
[17:12:18] dekarl-work: sadly wikipedia doesn't mention that here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution but its at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_format
[17:12:56] jheizer: Most of it is just warning friends that go OH I want to go buy a 4k tv to not spent much extra to get it since there is no content here and probably none for a while. I think ESPN is trying to be the first but then you'll still need new STB, etc.
[17:12:59] dekarl-work: so 2k / 4k is a film term, while 720p/1080i/2160p are video/tv terms
[17:14:53] jheizer: Interesting. At least that gives some context.
[17:15:12] dekarl-work: ahh, we have to "fix" mythnetvision(youtube)/mythbrowser(netflix) so we can get more 4k content... e.g. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjw-j0 . . . wnX1l9hg3QdR
[17:16:37] jheizer: LOL see even there they are interchanging terms
[17:17:01] jheizer: Ultra HD is "suppose" to mean 3840 x 2160
[17:17:22] jheizer: well, vs "film" 4k is 4096 x 2160
[17:17:25] jheizer: aka, a confusing mess
[17:18:09] dekarl-work: IIRC any format with power of two sides is "funky new stuff"
[17:18:21] dekarl-work: even film 2k/4k ;)
[17:18:45] dekarl-work: the good old formats all have some crazy number of non-square pixels
[17:19:41] dekarl-work: the difference being "movie production" who did digital stuff way before "movie projection"
[17:20:12] jheizer: Surprisingly my phones 4k video is the "full" 4k tv 3840x2160 and 3x the bit rate of the 1080 recordings
[17:24:47] jheizer: Random Message, I know there are few active US devs and probably less that use HD-PVRs, and that a lot do not subscribe to the -users list, but if you are using a HD-PVR check out https://github.com/jheizer/UPnPChannelChanger
[17:25:35] jheizer: Mini self plug from releasing that last night. Figured I had a better chance of people that may be interested seeing it today here.
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[21:53:59] stuarta: i wasn't expecting to crash the Xserver trying to playback the Astra UHD test
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[21:55:55] stuartm: heh
[21:56:02] stuartm: which player?
[21:56:18] stuarta: mythfrontend + some magic glue
[21:56:49] stuarta: i thought i'd try to join the dots to see if things would work, or if we need an ffmpeg update
[21:56:54] stuartm: it's not configured to adjust the display resolution to the video resolution is it?
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[21:57:46] stuarta: dunno, but it didn't detect a video stream according to the logs but was stuttering the audio like it did
[21:57:52] stuarta: WIP :)
[21:58:26] stuartm: if you don't know then it probably wasn't that then, it's not default behaviour
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[21:59:17] stuartm: mostly used by people who think their TV does a better job of upscaling SD content than any of the methods we use
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[22:14:58] stuarta: i have a distinct feeling that we require an ffmpeg update in order to decode it
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[22:16:06] stuarta: ffmpeg as in f21 can view it
[22:17:29] stuarta: however mplayer works better
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