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Tuesday, January 6th, 2015, 00:05 UTC

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cybrNaut:

why does /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql exist if the wiki says to follow a different set of commands here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Initia . . . nstall_tasks ?

[00:05:54]

cybrNaut:

my db is all screwed up, apparently. How do I wipe it out to start over?

[00:55:23]

cybrNaut:

command was "drop database mythconverg;" in case anyone was wondering

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cybrNaut:

(i hope)

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cybrNaut:

Cannot login to database!

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cybrNaut:

fuck!

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Hydroponx:

you dropped the database

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cybrNaut:

Hydroponx: but then I followed http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Initia . . . nstall_tasks afterwards

[01:11:04]

cybrNaut:

this sql errored though b/c the user already exists => create user 'mythtv'@'%' identified by 'mythtv';

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Hydroponx:

how are you trying to login ?

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cybrNaut:

I ran: sudo -u mythtv mythbackend

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Hydroponx:

pass a -p on the command line

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Hydroponx:

actually ...

[01:12:48]

Hydroponx:

make sure you can login to the mysql db first

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Hydroponx:

mysql localhost -u mythtv -p

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cybrNaut:

Unknown database 'localhost'

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cybrNaut:

i need mythconverg i think

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Hydroponx:

actually, since it's local you can just do mysql -u mythtv -p

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cybrNaut:

i get the mysql> prompt, so it worked

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Hydroponx:

ok

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Hydroponx:

now, type use mythconverg;

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Hydroponx:

hit enter and make sure you don't get any errors

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cybrNaut:

as root, mythtv, or as my user acct?

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Hydroponx:

mythtv

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Hydroponx:

that command I gave you, should leave you logged into the database

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cybrNaut:

"database changed"

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Hydroponx:

k

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Hydroponx:

so you can login with that account ... that means you need to tell the backend how to connect

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cybrNaut:

so i should run mythtv-setup as user mythtv?

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Hydroponx:

give it a shot

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cybrNaut:

mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server :0

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cybrNaut:

the mythtv user cannot do anything with x11 it seems

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cybrNaut:

maybe i need to set DISPLAY

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cybrNaut:

no, doesn't work.. that mythtv user was setup poorly it seems. it also uses /bin/sh

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Hydroponx:

my mythtv user uses /bin/sh

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cybrNaut:

ah, i needed to xhost + first

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cybrNaut:

now i have the setup screen as the mythtv user, and the db password is something long and cryptic

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cybrNaut:

i suppose I should change it to match what the db expects

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Hydroponx:

fix the user/pass/host/port to match what you have configured

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cybrNaut:

i don't know the port

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Hydroponx:

probably default then

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cybrNaut:

~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt does not set a port

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Hydroponx:

no need to change it if your not sure

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dym:

Hey people. Is this caused by lack of BW? https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9xsmo0b1au7ka8/Vid . . . 011.mov?dl=0

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stuartm:

dym: poor signal quality

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stuartm:

stream full of uncorrectable errors

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stuartm:

mis-aligned aerial, or simply not enough signal strength

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dym:

this is DVB-C

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dym:

could this have to do with the wireless connection of the frontend box to the backend?

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dym:

or is this strictly a DVB signal thing?

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stuarta:

pull up the playback data and that will tell you if you are failing to stream sufficient data

[09:53:42]

stuarta:

but as stuartm say, that looks like typical bad signal

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stuartm:

dym: could be the wireless connection, but honestly I've only ever seen it with a bad signal

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dym:

thats what it felt like to me

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stuartm:

another possibility is encryption, some forms of broadcast encryption cause that sort of picture corruption

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stuarta:

yeah, lack of data due to wireless exhibits as dropped audio / video and stuttering

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dym:

well, nothing has changed. i updated the backend yesterday

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dym:

and that was it

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stuarta:

os or just mythtv

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dym:

(as suggested by dekarl for smoothing livetv channel switches.)

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dym:

mythtv

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dym:

to v0.27.4-27-g40506c2

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dym:

okay, this is definately a mythtv issue

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dym:

it's a network tuner and accessing it directly via VLC shows seamless TV

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stuartm:

what do the mythtv recordings look like when you play the files in vlc?

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stuartm:

have you tried mythfrontend instead of xbmc

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dym:

stuartm: before updating yesterday things were fine. except changing channels took a while to load

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stuartm:

I don't think we can rule out coincidence, I can't think of a way in which MythTV has changed between 0.27.0 and 0.27.4 which could possibly explain the files being corrupted in that way

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stuartm:

so looking directly at the file with vlc will tell us whether the file is actually corrupted, or whether it's an issue with the wireless or xbmc

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dym:

this is livetv

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dym:

no recording

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dym:

i have recordings running atm though which i can check once they finish

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stuarta:

you can watch a recording even thou it's not finished

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stuartm:

dym: livetv generates files on the hard drive just like recordings, the only difference is that they are deleted a few minutes after you stop watching livetv

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dym:

yes, the recordings are also heavily borked :(

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stuartm:

dym: when played back directly? (not over wifi)?

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stuartm:

dekarl: how much do you know about our HDHomerun code?

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dym:

trying now.

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dym:

tested via another frointend

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dym:

stuartm: yes, recording is borked too

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dym:

downloaded it and played it locally in vlc

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dym:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/snahd3xwagxpu37/Vid . . . 025.mov?dl=0

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dekarl-work:

stuartm, I know next to nothing about our HDHR code :(

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dym:

dekarl-work: update broke things :(

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dym:

livetv and recordings are garbled

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dym:

dont know the cause. havent moved the tuner or anything

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dekarl-work:

dym, saw it on the logs in my lunch break :(

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dym:

only change: update

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dym:

damn you, mythtv!

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dym:

:)

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dym:

it's obvious that it cant be a tuner problem since accessing it directly shows flawless tv signal

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dekarl-work:

how does this "accessing directly" work?

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dym:

well, the tuner has a webinterface

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dym:

where i can access channel url's to insert into VLC

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dym:

like this: http://10.1.15.50:5004/auto/v105

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dym:

would be channel 105

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dym:

and it gives me a livestrweam

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dekarl-work:

is there anything suspicious in the backend log?

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stuartm:

doesn't seem like the hdhr code has been touched in the 0.27-fixes branch

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stuartm:

there was the pid filtering patch, https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/0f0e6787 but we've had no reports of HDHR issues from other users that I'm aware of

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stuarta:

microcaching does wonders for wiki responsiveness

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dym:

http://pastebin.com/epSwZinT

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dym:

a lot of these

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stuarta:

ah, that would do it

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dym:

what is it?

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dym:

and what does it want? :D

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stuarta:

the question is why... :-/

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dym:

dekarl-work injected broken code

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dym:

it's so obvious

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dym:

he's sabotaging my mythtv installation

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dym:

to project the wrath of the local woman onto me

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stuarta:

there is this, but i can't see how this would cause the issue https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/50709 . . . 59b9489061ad

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stuarta:

your errors are complaining about a bad DVB packet

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dym:

mhhh

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dym:

but how can the packages be "bad" if i can view the stream problem free?

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dym:

(directly)

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stuarta:

if we knew that we would have the solution to the issue

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dym:

:)

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dym:

it must be something that changed with the upgrade

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dym:

the standard out-of-the-box mythbuntu kinda "worked"

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dym:

even though the channel switching was awfully slow

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stuartm:

dym: only mythtv was upgraded? Packet loss on the network between the HDHR and the mythtv server might explain it, but if the OS or network hasn't been touched it would be hard to guess why it's suddenly causing problems

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dym:

well

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dym:

apt-get upgrade

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dym:

prolly not only mythtv

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dym:

but the mythtv backend box sits on cabled networking

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dym:

the frontend is wireless

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dym:

if there would have been upgrades on the wireless box i would concur

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dym:

ill go for the good, old reboot..

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dym:

for funsies

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stuartm:

it's possible that the pid filtering change is implicated somehow, you could try disabling filtering in Recording Profiles

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** dym checks **

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dekarl-work:

"Error: offset>181, pes length & current cannot be queried" would be a section that we can't handle with our current code easily and is "on the list" #12329

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12329 **

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dym:

stuartm: is it here? http://drop.openroot.de/kOcR/15FWLdON

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stuartm:

dym: no, under "Hardware DVB Encoders"

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dym:

Recording Profiles, though?

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dym:

thats all i have there: http://drop.openroot.de/1fgta/5TPDLp7e

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stuartm:

hmm, what's under HDHR Recorders?

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dym:

http://drop.openroot.de/F17H/5GApZAhk

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dym:

and each subsection is identical: http://drop.openroot.de/11AOs/5gKAIuzP

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dym:

hah wtf

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dym:

http://drop.openroot.de/19hyH/hl5QnLYs

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dym:

all capture cards are gone

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dym:

:D

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stuartm:

hmm, there should be an option to alter the filtering, although I would assume that it defaults to 'no filtering' in the case of HDHR devices

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stuartm:

if the default is to do no filtering on HDHR then the pid filtering change is less likely to be related

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dym:

stuartm: it seems that settings have been re-set during upgrade

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dym:

all capture cards are gone

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dym:

video source is there

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dym:

input connections is empty

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stuartm:

that shouldn't happen, but something obviously has gone awry

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stuarta:

stuartm: the only thing i find curious in that changeset is removign streams with pid==0

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stuartm:

stuarta: that's the way the pid filtering works, if the stream isn't one we're interested in the entry in the map is zero (not the pid itself, the pid is the key to the map)

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dym:

i re-added

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dym:

lets see if that fixes the issue

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stuarta:

stuartm: ah yes, i see that now

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dekarl-work:

stuart{a,m}, looks like we should get some HDHR into DVB devs hands so we can support them better :/

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stuarta:

yeah

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dym:

it's a great piece of hw

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dekarl-work:

they appear to have a DVB-T2 product in the pipeline, might be a good time to pitch the idea around when that hits the market

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stuarta:

dekarl-work: btw those different psi decoder libraries make interesting reading

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dekarl-work:

I only ever followed the mumudvb improvements via their support list. Looks like there is quite some gain for our channel scanner, too

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dym:

http://drop.openroot.de/1gDU4/3bNPV5iB – http://drop.openroot.de/1fn8e/4wxbGIRX – http://drop.openroot.de/1fftA/2oWqQDQk

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dym:

i have a non-functional backend

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dekarl-work:

looks like the backend isn't running?

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dym:

http://pastebin.com/WtBmfmtT

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dym:

well

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dym:

mythtv claimed to have restarted it

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dym:

log to it: 13:23:13 < dym> http://pastebin.com/WtBmfmtT

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dekarl-work:

dym, you need to set the backend ip and master backend ip to the same value

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stuarta:

dekarl-work: it's a slave backend

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dym:

there is only one backend

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dekarl-work:

IIRC he has only one backend

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dym:

which is this one

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dym:

yes

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stuarta:

says it's starting up as a slave

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dekarl-work:

but it does think it is a slave, thats the problem :)

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dym:

then the upgrade also changed the roles

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dym:

http://drop.openroot.de/1fJTm/12frbyu8

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dekarl-work:

maybe 0.27 and 0.27.4 react differently to some configuration value that has been there before. (we would have heard lots of complaints if the upgrade was broken that much :/

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dym:

well

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stuarta:

it's not on the list of complaints i've seen so far

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dym:

if im not imagining this, then things have changed

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dekarl-work:

meh, need to talk to tgm4883/superm1 about the packaging, "mythbackend[2806]: E CoreContext mythtranslation.cpp:73 (load) Error Loading de translation for module mythfrontend"

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dym:

okay, how do i fix this? :(

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dekarl-work:

dym, in mythtv-setup, make sure that both backend ip and master backend ip are set to the same value

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dym:

everything is gone :D

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dym:

even storage groups are gone

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dekarl-work:

did you change the hostname?

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dekarl-work:

did mysql crash?

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dekarl-work:

sounds very strange

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dym:

well

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dym:

the machine's hostname changed, yes

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dym:

does this affect things?

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dekarl-work:

re packaging, need to move the frontend translation to mythtv-common and the stuff needed from usr/share/mythtv/html for the frontend webservice/webfrontend to mythtv-common, too.

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dekarl-work:

dym, yes. the configuration is stored with the hostname as key by default

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dekarl-work:

so with a changed hostname nothing is found anymore

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dym:

what :D

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dekarl-work:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hostname_change#Ch . . . d_or_backend

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dekarl-work:

so move the "new" hostname's settings out of the way, then move the "old" hostname's settings into the right place with the new hostname

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dekarl-work:

if you have a dynamic hostname you can put a static host identifier into config.xml

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dym:

i dont

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dym:

i ran the script just now

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dym:

http://pastebin.com/N6HU9LCF

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dekarl-work:

did you stop everything (mythbackend/frontend/setup) then move the generated new settings out of the way (first script invocation) then move the old settings into under the new hostname (second invocation)?

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dym:

okay

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dym:

i probbaly need to reinstall

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dym:

since i changed hostname and indeed restarted mythtv afterwards

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dym:

creating a mess

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dekarl-work:

you could just recover from the database backup from before the upgrade (if that was with the old hostname) then directly run the hostname change

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dym:

reinstalling now.

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dekarl-work:

Mind to take notes for a wiki howto "Mythbuntu + HDHR in a DVB country quickstart"?

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dym:

no problem

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stuartm:

there's no need to reinstall, you just need to edit config.xml

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stuartm:

<LocalHostName>{your_chosen_identifier_here}</LocalHostName>

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stuartm:

I really thought I'd commit a change to write the hostname there on the first run, which would avoid this problem happening

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stuarta:

stuartm: any idea why we push theme download requests to osuosl via ftp and not http??

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stuarta:

or anyone else?

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stuartm:

nu-uh

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stuarta:

thinking of changing it to http

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stuarta:

we seem to support all of http/https/ftp whereever i look. the main thing i can think of is theme downloading and that has support for http/https/ftp

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stuarta:

btw. fixed the login page, now to cross check a few more things and we may be just about good to go

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dekarl-work:

stuartm, I like the idea of "automatic hostname locking" via config.xml. Thinking about possible use cases (backend changing hostname, then also becoming a frontend, but the frontend runs under a different user) it would surely fix more then it breaks

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stuartm:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/06/dev_b . . . urping_bots/

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stuartm:

pretty obvious stuff, but it doesn't hurt to be reminded from time to time that you should never put anything into a git repo that you don't want to be publicly available (potentially forever)

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stuarta:

indeed

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dekarl-work:

pretty likely that he did not understand version control systems... he should have just disabled that key and got a new one.

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dekarl-work:

how do you "I reverted the last few commits, and deleted all traces from GitHub. I was able to clean it up within about 5 minutes and no one else knew about the repo." without completely nuking the repo?

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dekarl-work:

but he came to the right conclusion "And lastly, if your API keys get out on the web – revoke them and regenerate them."

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stuartm:

dekarl-work: I believe it's possible if you rebase the repo, but as you say, it's much safer and quicker just to revoke the keys

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dekarl-work:

ahh, there it is https://github.com/andhof-mt/shriek/commit/79 . . . 963ad815c4d0 ;)

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dekarl-work:

actually the github api does nicely provide all data to researchers, bots and the general public, e.g. here you can see repos being generated multiple times. Its all there up for grabs http://pbrd.co/1KhZchc

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tgm4883:

dekarl1: is that because we're missing "mythfrontend_*.qm" on the backend?

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stuartm:

yes

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stuartm:

despite the name, which is mostly historical, the translations are required by all apps, frontend and backend

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stuartm:

the internal webserver is served by the backend but still needs translating, mythtv-setup needs translation

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tgm4883:

ok

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tgm4883:

I've got a reminder that we need to figure out the packaging fix for that

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tgm4883:

it's not as simple as "move these files from package A to package B"

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stuartm:

there's no 'common' package?

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stuartm:

Translations for some stuff is applied in the libs, so it wouldn't be wrong for them to be part of a lib package – e.g. libmythbase

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tgm4883:

stuartm: there is, but it's not as simple as just moving which package the files reside in. We need to figure out the proper syntax so it doesn't try to install them from one package while they still reside on the system from the old package

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tgm4883:

there is stuff in debian packaging to do it, we just have to figure it out

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tgm4883:

we have a mythtv-common package for just this type of thing

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dym:

Okay, just to report back: After re-installing and performing the upgrade before any modification, thinks work fine.

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dekarl:

http://picpaste.de/73ddc4e0f157483b8cbf29b69813fe17.jpeg <- TV Station broadcasting the "this DVD is for personal usage only" disclaimer, looks like the apprentice was asleep at the ripping station

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stuartm:

:)

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tgm4883:

Where do the settings screens in the frontend get their font size from? I don't see anything in qtlook.txt about size

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tgm4883:

eg http://www.site7even.de/temp/mythbuntu2819-se . . . ze-small.png

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stuartm:

tgm4883: it used to be a frontend setting, which was dropped, but I can't remember what replaced it

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tgm4883:

stuartm: hmm

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tgm4883:

stuartm: that makes it a bit difficult to fix

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stuartm:

sphery would know, he did the work iirc

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stuartm:

hopefully it won't matter by the next release as the settings screens will use mythui, but for 0.27 I'm really can't remember

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