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Tuesday, December 16th, 2014, 00:11 UTC
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[19:17:56] SteveGoodey: !seen paul-h
[19:17:56] MythLogBot: paul-h was last seen 19 hours 52 minutes 49 seconds ago
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[20:26:49] stuartm: how come no-one questioned the statement that "the 'HD / H.264' capabilities of MythTV are still not so good"? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=533
[20:28:38] Roklobsta: actually i have found if while watching a video in myth and a notification comes up like 'tuner timeout' the video turns to 5fps until the message is gone. how do i fix that?!
[20:28:54] Roklobsta: it seems odd that opengl would choke like that
[20:29:23] Roklobsta: apart from that h264 is fine
[20:29:31] Roklobsta: especially with vdpau
[20:29:32] dekarl: Roklobsta: i see that on master too, no such issue for other popups
[20:29:52] dekarl: also decoding with VDPAU
[20:30:29] Roklobsta: it's a bug
[20:30:47] Roklobsta: but the 100% cpu on MFE seems to have gone at least since i updated recently.
[20:31:02] Roklobsta: the bug was fixed or the trigger has changed.
[20:31:12] dekarl: stuartm, Oli has posted a list of observation of "not so good" things. the old transcoders are "not so good" the lossless cut is non-existent, NuppelVideo is "not so good"
[20:32:02] dekarl: basically stuff that is already on "The List" (well, has been for years in some cases ;)
[20:32:50] Roklobsta: oh, i stopped bothering with transcoding when 2TB drives became cheap.
[20:33:22] dekarl: The only thing that I disagree with is that MPEG-2 video for 720/1080 video is not "weird", but that was in his second post
[20:34:49] dekarl: Roklobsta: we all agree (more or less) with transcoding (changing the codec with CPU work to a more efficient one) is not worth it. But many do like the option to cut away unwanted parts of the recordings to save 50% space (e.g. start early / End late / foreign language audio streams)
[20:35:41] dekarl: the only reason to switch the codec is for compatibility with devices / contracts
[20:35:52] Roklobsta: since VLC managed to cope with streaming ASX nicely via mythweb and skipping/seeking/jumping works so quickly in VLC and MFE I stopped bothering cutting and compressing.
[20:36:31] dekarl: Roklobsta: VLC on your iPad / Android Tablet?
[20:36:36] stuartm: dekarl: maybe I mis-read exactly what he was saying, the way I understood it the stuff about transcoding seemed to reflect his desire to transcode away from H.264 because "the HD / H.264 capabilities of MythTV are still not so good"
[20:36:40] Roklobsta: vlc to laptop
[20:36:55] dekarl: anything -> VLC on laptop is easy ;)
[20:37:02] Roklobsta: ipad doesnt' cope very well with MP2 (which we use for DVB here in .au)
[20:37:24] stuartm: if he'd just said "the H.264 transcoding capabilities of MythTV are still not so good" then obviously I'd agree
[20:37:28] Roklobsta: i tried vlc on ipad but it's hopeless.
[20:38:23] SteveGoodey: Anyone tried the xmas theme by paul-h, it's rather excellent. My wife prefers watching the different backgrounds to actual tv programs.
[20:40:36] Roklobsta: i want a theme that is clear to read, allows wraparound both ways on the menu lists, doesn't show TV artwork and isn't generally munted.
[20:41:17] Roklobsta: the theme guys need to take some anthropometrics classes.
[20:42:22] dekarl: stuartm, I agree. his post is confusing :)
[20:44:14] Roklobsta: ok, 'failed to download themes.mythtv.org/foo...bar/themes.zip'
[20:44:51] Roklobsta: where foo...bar is themes/repository/trunk
[20:45:21] Roklobsta: no xmas theme for me.
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[21:05:12] stuartm: stuarta: alcor is down
[21:05:52] stuartm: well not completely it seems, ssh finally connected
[21:15:23] stuarta: hmmm
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[21:30:35] stuartm: Roklobsta: try again, our server was being DOSd
[21:35:07] Roklobsta: ok later about to go out.
[21:35:25] Roklobsta: DOSd? someone must really hate mythtv
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[22:05:52] dekarl: hmm that didn't make it out :/ Roklobsta: like MythCenter or Terra?
[22:18:38] stuartm: dekarl: I think opinion of Terra is generally pretty low because people don't like brown
[22:19:36] dekarl: stuartm, ohh but its grey :) maybe with a small olive tint
[22:19:56] stuartm: earth tones
[22:19:57] dekarl: but then this wouldn't be the first instance of "it looks brown on my screen"...
[22:20:15] stuartm: green, grey, brown
[22:20:39] dekarl: got any idea on what the new UI features are that it showcases? (new as in added for the "upcoming" 0.22 release)
[22:21:11] dekarl: I've looked at https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Theme_Terra and wanted to update it, but don't know what it does differently.
[22:21:34] stuartm: dekarl: aye, well my screens aren't calibrated that's true, I was going for a light green-brown feel, mainly an an antedote to all the blue and black themes that were prevalent at the time
[22:22:04] dekarl: fwiw, I like it
[22:23:50] stuartm: it was a lot time ago, but stuff like images and multiple text areas in lists, horizontal scrolling lists, grayscale/alpha filters
[22:24:15] stuartm: I tried to cram in as much as possible that was new to mythui
[22:27:08] stuartm: image masking
[22:29:29] stuartm: different list wrapping behaviour – although I had to keep some consistency within the theme so I couldn't highlight everything
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