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[08:59:49] | stuarta: | morning all |
[09:00:46] | stuartm: | morning |
[09:01:23] | stuarta: | things should be calming down now, and i have as much work as ever if not more |
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[11:57:03] | stuartm: | As if the constant stream of CVEs for WordPress and it's plugins aren't bad enough – http://thehackernews.com/2014/12/SoakSoak-Wordpress-Malware.html |
[11:57:38] | stuartm: | (to hammer the point about Wordpress home) |
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[13:55:26] | stuarta: | stuartm: yeah, it's confirmed my original stance of "no wordpress" |
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[16:49:58] | tgm4883: | Here is another user saying mythfrontend is using 100% CPU in standby. This one is using Mythcenter wide it seems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2251 . . . post13187862 |
[16:58:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | I've just had mine fail to wake up from time to time |
[16:58:40] | Hydr0p0nX: | not sure if it's related or not though |
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[17:41:00] | dekarl: | hard to find? Its always in this post ;) http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053 (at least sind 2012–09) |
[17:41:39] | stuarta: | in 0.27 does it take 2 attempts for anyone else to download and activate a new theme? |
[17:41:57] | stuarta: | ie. the first attempt downloads and says it's activtating, but nothing happens |
[17:42:24] | dekarl: | stuarta, I vaguely remember such behaviour. IIRC downloading and activating, then restarting the frontend works to. But its been to long |
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[18:13:41] | tgm4883: | stuarta: yes I've seen that behavior as well, I don't recall that if I waited long enough it would activate |
[18:16:45] | Hydr0p0nX: | Sorry if this should go in the mythtv-users but... is there any currently available way to either have chromecast/fire tv integrate w/ myth or have amazon videos tie in ? |
[18:17:42] | jpabq_: | stuarta: I have found that hitting [Esc] after the theme is down downloading will 'switch' to it. |
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[18:35:24] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX: that is correct. That should be in #mythtv-users |
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[19:04:54] | paul-h: | tgm4883: from what I know about the 100% cpu problem if they leave the FE on any screen other than the main menu then the problem should go away |
[19:05:49] | paul-h: | It's interesting all the users reporting the problem are all using MythBuntu |
[19:07:56] | tgm4883: | that is strange. |
[19:08:04] | tgm4883: | paul-h: have we been able to reproduce it on demand? |
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[19:10:01] | paul-h: | Yes I've been working with a guy one the forum who can reproduce it at will but I've tried several times and can't but don't use MythBuntu |
[19:10:19] | paul-h: | It could just be coincidence |
[19:10:29] | tgm4883: | paul-h: where are the steps to reproduce? |
[19:12:06] | paul-h: | Just leave the FE on the main menu and after an hour or so when the theme checker kicks in it causes the MythDownloadManager thread to go to 100% |
[19:12:41] | tgm4883: | paul-h: ah ok, I'll test that here at work then |
[19:14:29] | tgm4883: | paul-h: ok, it's running. So as soon as the themechecker starts it should in theory send mythfrontend to 100%? |
[19:15:16] | paul-h: | Yes that is what they are telling me – It would be interesting to see if you can reproduce it as well |
[19:16:38] | tgm4883: | how often does the theme downloader check? |
[19:17:05] | jab416171: | paul-h, is the FE on the same box or a different box? I've got a two box mythbuntu setup |
[19:17:50] | paul-h: | the theme checker which runs once per hour but so far those who can reproduce it always happens after one or two runs |
[19:18:35] | paul-h: | I believe everyone so far have been using a combined FE/BE machine |
[19:19:47] | jab416171: | I've got /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real --syslog local7 using 100% on my FE |
[19:20:36] | jab416171: | how do you see the individual threads? |
[19:22:20] | paul-h: | jab416171: If you have the debug packages installed – https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=496#p2303 |
[19:25:40] | jab416171: | paul-h, do I have to restart the FE? |
[19:25:51] | jab416171: | after installing the debug package |
[19:26:37] | jab416171: | oh, mythtv-dbg is already the newest version. |
[19:26:38] | jab416171: | cool |
[19:27:42] | paul-h: | I don't think you will have to restart it – tgm4883 do you know ^ |
[19:28:17] | tgm4883: | he's already got it installed |
[19:28:51] | tgm4883: | I don't know if you would need to restart it after starting the frontend. I don't think so, but I can't be sure. In any case, it's already installed so he shouldn't need to restart it at all |
[19:28:58] | tgm4883: | I believe we ship the dbg packages |
[19:29:30] | jab416171: | https://gist.github.com/jab416171/b21837a7cb7a93b57d36 |
[19:30:43] | jab416171: | is that useful at all? |
[19:31:58] | paul-h: | Is that the thread htop said was using 100% cpu? |
[19:32:17] | jab416171: | yes |
[19:32:32] | jab416171: | I went into tree mode and grabbed the child |
[19:32:36] | jab416171: | should I run it again on the parent/ |
[19:32:38] | jab416171: | ? |
[19:34:42] | paul-h: | maybe show us all the threads from the bt and tell us which thread htop is showing 100% |
[19:36:20] | jab416171: | https://gist.github.com/jab416171/b21837a7cb7a93b57d36 |
[19:36:24] | jab416171: | 8951 is using 100% |
[19:36:58] | jab416171: | I see mythdownloadmanager on 8966, but that thread is using 0% |
[19:38:46] | paul-h: | jab416171: OK that is something different :( |
[19:38:55] | jab416171: | yay more bugs! |
[19:39:27] | paul-h: | dblain_, stuartm: ^ that would appear to be your department |
[19:40:04] | jab416171: | I just installed myth on Saturday |
[19:41:23] | paul-h: | jab416171: if you was seeing the same as the others 8966 wouldn't be in a wait condition it would be showing something different |
[19:41:39] | jab416171: | yeah, that's what I figured |
[19:43:01] | paul-h: | I think the thread that is stuck in your case may be something to do with upnp do you have any clients on your network? |
[19:43:12] | jab416171: | no active clients |
[19:44:01] | tgm4883: | Does it really need to check every minute to run the hardware profiler? |
[19:44:33] | paul-h: | jab416171: Ah OK stuartm was saying something about badly behaved clients hammering the upnp server but sound like that isn't it |
[19:45:05] | jab416171: | paul-h, clients would connect to the backend, right? these threads are from the frontend |
[19:45:46] | paul-h: | yeah you are right shows what I know :) |
[19:47:30] | paul-h: | tgm4883: that sounds a little over the top if true |
[19:48:04] | paul-h: | maybe it's failing and keeps retrying? |
[19:48:13] | stuartm: | there is a upnp renderer (server) in mythfrontend too, although it doesn't really offer any functionality yet |
[19:50:17] | tgm4883: | paul-h: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9532172/ |
[19:50:56] | tgm4883: | it's done it every minute for the past 22 minutes |
[19:51:01] | jab416171: | what file is that tgm4883? |
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[19:52:24] | tgm4883: | jab416171: I'm just running mythfrontend from the command line with debug logging |
[19:52:38] | jab416171: | ah |
[19:52:39] | tgm4883: | so it would be the frontend log, but I'm just looking at the terminal |
[19:58:34] | stuartm: | I'm not seeing anything amiss with thread 8951, it's processing SSDP search requests (clients looking for servers), that shouldn't use 100% cpu unless there were a lot of them? |
[19:59:23] | stuartm: | jab416171: I'd suggest running the frontend with -v upnp --loglevel=debug, maybe that will give us a clue what's happening |
[20:14:54] | jab416171: | stuarta, there shouldn't be any clients looking for servers |
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[20:23:55] | stuartm: | jab416171: nothing at all? Rare these days for there to be nothing at all on a home network which doesn't use upnp for something, from routers to printers, TVs to DVD players |
[20:24:33] | stuartm: | mobile phones, tablets, even wifi-enabled cameras |
[20:28:38] | stuartm: | SteveGoodey: is that the first spam to slip through the new filters? |
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[20:31:24] | stuartm: | jab416171: that said, it checks periodically for waiting requests anyway, so even if there are no clients it may still enter that code, the backtrace only represents a snapshot in time and we can't see what happens next which is where logging may help |
[20:35:35] | tgm4883: | paul-h: looks like it just checked for theme stuff, but nothing happened. I'll wait for it to run again and see if anything changes. |
[20:39:13] | warpme: | stuarm: just FYI: on current master 6350a12 causes high CPU load when frontend displays UI notifications. If I have few of them concurently displaying – CPU load becomes so high that playback becomes jumpy due lack of CPU power for playback. No big deal – but not nice when user upgrades from 0.27 to master... |
[20:46:32] | stuarta: | paul-h: tgm4883 is it easy to reduce the 1hr time by tweaking a setting? |
[20:47:07] | stuarta: | jab416171: use gcore to make it drop a core file |
[20:47:20] | ** tgm4883 shrugs ** | |
[20:47:25] | tgm4883: | I assume it's hard coded |
[20:47:43] | tgm4883: | I've never seen a setting for that, but I've never really looked for one |
[20:51:25] | stuartm: | it's handled by the housekeeper, so no, there's no setting |
[20:53:01] | stuartm: | dekarl: I said that the blu-ray production keys are hard to find, not the MakeMKV registration key |
[20:54:15] | stuartm: | they get revoked so quickly that it's really not worth the hassle |
[20:56:14] | stuarta: | stuartm: looking at that stack trace from earlier, the only way we can be hammering away in that thread, is if we are spinning around in a tight loop in the for loop in ssdp.cpp:294 |
[20:57:23] | stuarta: | and the only way we can really tell, is to run a profiler to see what is getting called, and what is chewing cpu time |
[21:00:38] | stuartm: | stuarta: yep, and since Idx = 1 it's only just started that iteration |
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[21:03:01] | stuartm: | it would be helpful if NumberOfSockets was in the bt, but it's not so we can only speculate |
[21:04:17] | stuarta: | count is decrementing, so we are actually at the end of the loop |
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[21:04:39] | stuarta: | ignore me |
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[21:05:55] | stuartm: | we're at both the start (well second one) and end, since count is 1 |
[21:05:58] | SteveGoodey: | stuartm: Yes indeed. Good job with setting that up. I must admit I've been lax in checking lately. |
[21:06:31] | stuartm: | SteveGoodey: same, just patched the wiki and so thought to check on the recent changes while I was there |
[21:08:20] | stuarta: | anything interesting? |
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[21:10:39] | stuartm: | stuarta: wiki anti-spam seems to still be working well, and if you meant was there anything interesting in the Recent Changes, well somebody called Darcy (Austin fan?) is on a bit of a rampage, cleaning up pages and properly formatting them |
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[21:10:58] | stuarta: | :) |
[21:11:39] | stuarta: | something is crashing convert a lot, every minute or 2 abrt tells me there's been another crash |
[21:13:25] | stuartm: | on alcor? I see the emails, but only once a day |
[21:13:38] | stuarta: | yeah, quite a few today |
[21:14:56] | stuartm: | iirc convert may be used to generate the images on the about page, and very likely the wiki uses it to handle upload images |
[21:15:21] | stuarta: | something like that yeah |
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[21:17:16] | stuartm: | why it's crashing though ... |
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[21:18:10] | stuartm: | I'd say grab a bt, but it's not really how I want to spend my Monday evening |
[21:19:06] | stuarta: | i'm not even going to investigate it. |
[21:19:17] | stuarta: | time is better spent moving the wiki to the new host |
[21:19:22] | dekarl: | stuartm, doh. I see |
[21:19:33] | stuarta: | lightbulb! |
[21:29:43] | tgm4883: | paul-h: just had it run the theme check again and I'm still not seeing 100% cpu usage |
[21:29:58] | tgm4883: | I verified that the frontend is also currently idle according to the logs |
[21:30:16] | tgm4883: | I'm going to let it keep running for awhile, but I'm not too hopeful |
[21:31:15] | stuarta: | i wonder why ssdp.cpp uses it's own socket handling when we have our own socket classes already? |
[21:33:08] | stuartm: | stuarta: all written at different times, with different requirements – ssdp uses udp, most sockets used by mythtv are tcp, that sort of thing |
[21:33:37] | stuarta: | fair enuf |
[21:33:45] | stuartm: | I did start to migrate parts such as the webserver over to common code, but it takes time and requires a lot of regression testing |
[21:34:28] | stuarta: | aye |
[21:40:58] | dblain_: | ssdp should also be listening/broadcasting on multi-cast addresses which the common code doesn't / didn't handle. |
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[22:15:34] | stuarta: | fuck it. i didn't check the mysql replication after alcor crashed the other week, and guess what, we've just rolled past the end of the available binlogs, so a full dump and restore is required again. fuck fuck fuck |
[22:15:50] | ** stuarta sets mode +pissed ** | |
[22:17:00] | stuarta: | luckily it's trivial todo now i've done it so many bloody times |
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[23:00:12] | paul-h: | tgm4883: that's a shame I was hoping you could reproduce it to help debug the problem |
[23:02:05] | paul-h: | I think the idle thing was a red herring – having it enabled makes it more likely to happen but it also happens with it disabled |
[23:07:00] | paul-h: | Actually thinking about it I seem to remember something about the idle timer jumping to the main menu which means the theme checker can then run which will then cause the problem |
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