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Monday, December 15th, 2014, 00:21 UTC
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[08:59:49] stuarta: morning all
[09:00:46] stuartm: morning
[09:01:23] stuarta: things should be calming down now, and i have as much work as ever if not more
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[11:57:03] stuartm: As if the constant stream of CVEs for WordPress and it's plugins aren't bad enough – http://thehackernews.com/2014/12/SoakSoak-Wordpress-Malware.html
[11:57:38] stuartm: (to hammer the point about Wordpress home)
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[13:55:26] stuarta: stuartm: yeah, it's confirmed my original stance of "no wordpress"
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[16:49:58] tgm4883: Here is another user saying mythfrontend is using 100% CPU in standby. This one is using Mythcenter wide it seems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2251 . . . post13187862
[16:58:36] Hydr0p0nX: I've just had mine fail to wake up from time to time
[16:58:40] Hydr0p0nX: not sure if it's related or not though
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[17:41:00] dekarl: hard to find? Its always in this post ;) http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053 (at least sind 2012–09)
[17:41:39] stuarta: in 0.27 does it take 2 attempts for anyone else to download and activate a new theme?
[17:41:57] stuarta: ie. the first attempt downloads and says it's activtating, but nothing happens
[17:42:24] dekarl: stuarta, I vaguely remember such behaviour. IIRC downloading and activating, then restarting the frontend works to. But its been to long
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[18:13:41] tgm4883: stuarta: yes I've seen that behavior as well, I don't recall that if I waited long enough it would activate
[18:16:45] Hydr0p0nX: Sorry if this should go in the mythtv-users but... is there any currently available way to either have chromecast/fire tv integrate w/ myth or have amazon videos tie in ?
[18:17:42] jpabq_: stuarta: I have found that hitting [Esc] after the theme is down downloading will 'switch' to it.
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[18:35:24] tgm4883: Hydr0p0nX: that is correct. That should be in #mythtv-users
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[19:04:54] paul-h: tgm4883: from what I know about the 100% cpu problem if they leave the FE on any screen other than the main menu then the problem should go away
[19:05:49] paul-h: It's interesting all the users reporting the problem are all using MythBuntu
[19:07:56] tgm4883: that is strange.
[19:08:04] tgm4883: paul-h: have we been able to reproduce it on demand?
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[19:10:01] paul-h: Yes I've been working with a guy one the forum who can reproduce it at will but I've tried several times and can't but don't use MythBuntu
[19:10:19] paul-h: It could just be coincidence
[19:10:29] tgm4883: paul-h: where are the steps to reproduce?
[19:12:06] paul-h: Just leave the FE on the main menu and after an hour or so when the theme checker kicks in it causes the MythDownloadManager thread to go to 100%
[19:12:41] tgm4883: paul-h: ah ok, I'll test that here at work then
[19:14:29] tgm4883: paul-h: ok, it's running. So as soon as the themechecker starts it should in theory send mythfrontend to 100%?
[19:15:16] paul-h: Yes that is what they are telling me – It would be interesting to see if you can reproduce it as well
[19:16:38] tgm4883: how often does the theme downloader check?
[19:17:05] jab416171: paul-h, is the FE on the same box or a different box? I've got a two box mythbuntu setup
[19:17:50] paul-h: the theme checker which runs once per hour but so far those who can reproduce it always happens after one or two runs
[19:18:35] paul-h: I believe everyone so far have been using a combined FE/BE machine
[19:19:47] jab416171: I've got /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real --syslog local7 using 100% on my FE
[19:20:36] jab416171: how do you see the individual threads?
[19:22:20] paul-h: jab416171: If you have the debug packages installed – https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=496#p2303
[19:25:40] jab416171: paul-h, do I have to restart the FE?
[19:25:51] jab416171: after installing the debug package
[19:26:37] jab416171: oh, mythtv-dbg is already the newest version.
[19:26:38] jab416171: cool
[19:27:42] paul-h: I don't think you will have to restart it – tgm4883 do you know ^
[19:28:17] tgm4883: he's already got it installed
[19:28:51] tgm4883: I don't know if you would need to restart it after starting the frontend. I don't think so, but I can't be sure. In any case, it's already installed so he shouldn't need to restart it at all
[19:28:58] tgm4883: I believe we ship the dbg packages
[19:29:30] jab416171: https://gist.github.com/jab416171/b21837a7cb7a93b57d36
[19:30:43] jab416171: is that useful at all?
[19:31:58] paul-h: Is that the thread htop said was using 100% cpu?
[19:32:17] jab416171: yes
[19:32:32] jab416171: I went into tree mode and grabbed the child
[19:32:36] jab416171: should I run it again on the parent/
[19:32:38] jab416171: ?
[19:34:42] paul-h: maybe show us all the threads from the bt and tell us which thread htop is showing 100%
[19:36:20] jab416171: https://gist.github.com/jab416171/b21837a7cb7a93b57d36
[19:36:24] jab416171: 8951 is using 100%
[19:36:58] jab416171: I see mythdownloadmanager on 8966, but that thread is using 0%
[19:38:46] paul-h: jab416171: OK that is something different :(
[19:38:55] jab416171: yay more bugs!
[19:39:27] paul-h: dblain_, stuartm: ^ that would appear to be your department
[19:40:04] jab416171: I just installed myth on Saturday
[19:41:23] paul-h: jab416171: if you was seeing the same as the others 8966 wouldn't be in a wait condition it would be showing something different
[19:41:39] jab416171: yeah, that's what I figured
[19:43:01] paul-h: I think the thread that is stuck in your case may be something to do with upnp do you have any clients on your network?
[19:43:12] jab416171: no active clients
[19:44:01] tgm4883: Does it really need to check every minute to run the hardware profiler?
[19:44:33] paul-h: jab416171: Ah OK stuartm was saying something about badly behaved clients hammering the upnp server but sound like that isn't it
[19:45:05] jab416171: paul-h, clients would connect to the backend, right? these threads are from the frontend
[19:45:46] paul-h: yeah you are right shows what I know :)
[19:47:30] paul-h: tgm4883: that sounds a little over the top if true
[19:48:04] paul-h: maybe it's failing and keeps retrying?
[19:48:13] stuartm: there is a upnp renderer (server) in mythfrontend too, although it doesn't really offer any functionality yet
[19:50:17] tgm4883: paul-h: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9532172/
[19:50:56] tgm4883: it's done it every minute for the past 22 minutes
[19:51:01] jab416171: what file is that tgm4883?
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[19:52:24] tgm4883: jab416171: I'm just running mythfrontend from the command line with debug logging
[19:52:38] jab416171: ah
[19:52:39] tgm4883: so it would be the frontend log, but I'm just looking at the terminal
[19:58:34] stuartm: I'm not seeing anything amiss with thread 8951, it's processing SSDP search requests (clients looking for servers), that shouldn't use 100% cpu unless there were a lot of them?
[19:59:23] stuartm: jab416171: I'd suggest running the frontend with -v upnp --loglevel=debug, maybe that will give us a clue what's happening
[20:14:54] jab416171: stuarta, there shouldn't be any clients looking for servers
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[20:23:55] stuartm: jab416171: nothing at all? Rare these days for there to be nothing at all on a home network which doesn't use upnp for something, from routers to printers, TVs to DVD players
[20:24:33] stuartm: mobile phones, tablets, even wifi-enabled cameras
[20:28:38] stuartm: SteveGoodey: is that the first spam to slip through the new filters?
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[20:31:24] stuartm: jab416171: that said, it checks periodically for waiting requests anyway, so even if there are no clients it may still enter that code, the backtrace only represents a snapshot in time and we can't see what happens next which is where logging may help
[20:35:35] tgm4883: paul-h: looks like it just checked for theme stuff, but nothing happened. I'll wait for it to run again and see if anything changes.
[20:39:13] warpme: stuarm: just FYI: on current master 6350a12 causes high CPU load when frontend displays UI notifications. If I have few of them concurently displaying – CPU load becomes so high that playback becomes jumpy due lack of CPU power for playback. No big deal – but not nice when user upgrades from 0.27 to master...
[20:46:32] stuarta: paul-h: tgm4883 is it easy to reduce the 1hr time by tweaking a setting?
[20:47:07] stuarta: jab416171: use gcore to make it drop a core file
[20:47:20] ** tgm4883 shrugs **
[20:47:25] tgm4883: I assume it's hard coded
[20:47:43] tgm4883: I've never seen a setting for that, but I've never really looked for one
[20:51:25] stuartm: it's handled by the housekeeper, so no, there's no setting
[20:53:01] stuartm: dekarl: I said that the blu-ray production keys are hard to find, not the MakeMKV registration key
[20:54:15] stuartm: they get revoked so quickly that it's really not worth the hassle
[20:56:14] stuarta: stuartm: looking at that stack trace from earlier, the only way we can be hammering away in that thread, is if we are spinning around in a tight loop in the for loop in ssdp.cpp:294
[20:57:23] stuarta: and the only way we can really tell, is to run a profiler to see what is getting called, and what is chewing cpu time
[21:00:38] stuartm: stuarta: yep, and since Idx = 1 it's only just started that iteration
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[21:03:01] stuartm: it would be helpful if NumberOfSockets was in the bt, but it's not so we can only speculate
[21:04:17] stuarta: count is decrementing, so we are actually at the end of the loop
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[21:04:39] stuarta: ignore me
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[21:05:55] stuartm: we're at both the start (well second one) and end, since count is 1
[21:05:58] SteveGoodey: stuartm: Yes indeed. Good job with setting that up. I must admit I've been lax in checking lately.
[21:06:31] stuartm: SteveGoodey: same, just patched the wiki and so thought to check on the recent changes while I was there
[21:08:20] stuarta: anything interesting?
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[21:10:39] stuartm: stuarta: wiki anti-spam seems to still be working well, and if you meant was there anything interesting in the Recent Changes, well somebody called Darcy (Austin fan?) is on a bit of a rampage, cleaning up pages and properly formatting them
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[21:10:58] stuarta: :)
[21:11:39] stuarta: something is crashing convert a lot, every minute or 2 abrt tells me there's been another crash
[21:13:25] stuartm: on alcor? I see the emails, but only once a day
[21:13:38] stuarta: yeah, quite a few today
[21:14:56] stuartm: iirc convert may be used to generate the images on the about page, and very likely the wiki uses it to handle upload images
[21:15:21] stuarta: something like that yeah
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[21:17:16] stuartm: why it's crashing though ...
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[21:18:10] stuartm: I'd say grab a bt, but it's not really how I want to spend my Monday evening
[21:19:06] stuarta: i'm not even going to investigate it.
[21:19:17] stuarta: time is better spent moving the wiki to the new host
[21:19:22] dekarl: stuartm, doh. I see
[21:19:33] stuarta: lightbulb!
[21:29:43] tgm4883: paul-h: just had it run the theme check again and I'm still not seeing 100% cpu usage
[21:29:58] tgm4883: I verified that the frontend is also currently idle according to the logs
[21:30:16] tgm4883: I'm going to let it keep running for awhile, but I'm not too hopeful
[21:31:15] stuarta: i wonder why ssdp.cpp uses it's own socket handling when we have our own socket classes already?
[21:33:08] stuartm: stuarta: all written at different times, with different requirements – ssdp uses udp, most sockets used by mythtv are tcp, that sort of thing
[21:33:37] stuarta: fair enuf
[21:33:45] stuartm: I did start to migrate parts such as the webserver over to common code, but it takes time and requires a lot of regression testing
[21:34:28] stuarta: aye
[21:40:58] dblain_: ssdp should also be listening/broadcasting on multi-cast addresses which the common code doesn't / didn't handle.
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[22:15:34] stuarta: fuck it. i didn't check the mysql replication after alcor crashed the other week, and guess what, we've just rolled past the end of the available binlogs, so a full dump and restore is required again. fuck fuck fuck
[22:15:50] ** stuarta sets mode +pissed **
[22:17:00] stuarta: luckily it's trivial todo now i've done it so many bloody times
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[23:00:12] paul-h: tgm4883: that's a shame I was hoping you could reproduce it to help debug the problem
[23:02:05] paul-h: I think the idle thing was a red herring – having it enabled makes it more likely to happen but it also happens with it disabled
[23:07:00] paul-h: Actually thinking about it I seem to remember something about the idle timer jumping to the main menu which means the theme checker can then run which will then cause the problem
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