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| [02:57:39] | ** rmeden checking in... speak up if anyone is having issues with sd-dd service ** | |
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| [04:58:35] | bill6502: | rmeden: still there? I'm trying to figure out Leo Butler's issue of missing data. |
| [05:14:04] | bill6502: | g' night |
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| [09:59:57] | paul-h: | stuarta: the forums are not working |
| [10:06:35] | dekarl: | stuartm, just saw this recently, maybe the result of that feedback request can add insight when we look at moving to DDS textures ourselves http://www.flightgear.org/news/feedback-on-dd . . . es-required/ |
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| [11:00:35] | stuartm: | dekarl: interesting reading, though I followed it by looking at some comparisons between png and s3tc (DDS) and I'm reminded that there is a real, visible quality difference |
| [11:01:58] | stuartm: | so if/when we do implement support, I'm thinking it might be OK for some stuff like fanart etc, but not theme images |
| [11:07:04] | MythBuild: | build #124 of 0.27-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.27 . . . t/builds/124 blamelist: Paul Harrison <pharrison@mythtv.org > |
| [11:23:59] | dekarl: | stuartm: aye, though I'd evaluate large theme backgrounds and a small theme pictures atlas combined from all the small images separately. |
| [11:29:49] | MythBuild: | build #125 of 0.27-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.27 . . . t/builds/125 |
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| [12:07:45] | stuartm: | dekarl: I've no idea how that could be made to work, how do we know which images can be safely combined? Take the example of a series where fanart is fullscreen in the background, and the preview image is in the foreground, as you move from one item to the next the only thing that changes is the preview image |
| [12:08:42] | stuartm: | dekarl: oh ... did you mean as a texture map? |
| [12:09:57] | stuartm: | although that has the same issue depending on which images you combine, and still uses more memory in themes which only display one of the images instead of them all |
| [12:10:49] | dekarl: | aye, basically statically compile all the small theme images into a bit texture and dynamically rewrite the references. similar to CSS Style optzimizers out there do it |
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| [13:53:03] | stuartm: | the benefit for css is to reduce the number of small files it has to request from the server, in our case opening the file has a very small overhead, the main overhead comes from scaling and the memory usage, neither of which would be fixed by having all the images in a single file |
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| [15:06:23] | paul-h: | The forums are still not responding :( |
| [15:13:31] | dekarl: | stuartm: there is still the cost of rendering state changes when you switch to render a different texture. Also scaling could be left to the hardware. just feed it DDS with precomputed mipmaps and let it do its thing |
| [15:14:32] | dekarl: | might even do a theme with images that match 4k, then leave away the highest mipmap level for 1080p or the two biggest mipmaps for SD displays |
| [15:16:14] | paul-h: | dekarl: I'll look forward to that |
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| [15:17:56] | dekarl: | paul-h, I think the first step is to finish the move to MythUI, then retire the non opengl renderers, then start to optimize what is left without all the cargo from the last millenium |
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| [15:26:39] | paul-h: | Maybe we don't need to re-invent the wheel again and just use Qt's QML for the renderer |
| [15:28:45] | paul-h: | I see the pesky 'QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver' errors are back again |
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| [15:35:53] | paul-h: | rmeden: so are you happy for the URL in mythfilldatabase to be changed to point to your SD-DD service at least in master to get more testers? |
| [15:38:19] | paul-h: | Times running out and it would be nice to let it soak in master for a week or two before backporting it to fixes? |
| [16:00:40] | dekarl: | having update packages ready for users updating the weekend *before* Nov 1st might be nice |
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| [16:45:11] | stuartm: | paul-h: well in a way that _is_ reinventing the wheel, it means all existing themes etc having to be re-written, what dekarl and I are discussing is the format in which images are cached, so existing themes would continue to work as they always have |
| [16:56:35] | paul-h: | I do understand that I started to write a clutter FE so I know what you describe can't easily be done with the existing OpenGL painter you are better off starting from scratch and adding the things you want IMHO |
| [16:57:08] | paul-h: | In which case just make life easy and use the QML rendering engine |
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| [17:05:39] | stuarta|mob: | Sigh. Looks like my server has disappeared again. Thus the forums have too. What a pita |
| [17:08:46] | stuarta|mob: | Will sort in a while. |
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| [19:40:52] | stuarta: | well reset request sent off, should be back in the next half hour |
| [19:42:46] | stuarta: | time to continue with the cloud version |
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| [20:01:48] | tgm4883: | rmeden: just switched over to the dd SD replacement URL but I'm not getting any data. Looking I only have 12 days of data so I don't believe this to be an issue with your service but it seems odd |
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| [20:03:05] | tgm4883: | --verbose doesn't seem to give me any additional log data |
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| [20:08:54] | tgm4883: | rmeden: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8548122/ if you want to look at it |
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| [20:16:15] | bill6502: | tgm4883: -v file,network --loglevel debug are the preferred options. !!! but be careful, you'll likely see your SD login in the: Writing to temporary file: [/tmp/mythtv_ddp_0KidpC/mythtv_dd_cache_1_...... line (e.g. remove before pasting.) |
| [20:19:04] | tgm4883: | bill6502: yea that helps |
| [20:19:07] | tgm4883: | 2014-10–12 13:18:39.461437 D DownloadManager: downloadError 301 Error downloading http://dd.schedulesdirect.org/schedulesdirect . . . /xtvdService – server replied: Service Unavailable: Back-end server is at capacity |
| [20:19:32] | tgm4883: | bill6502: is that the correct link? Should be, as all I did was change the URL |
| [20:21:00] | bill6502: | checking my old logs.... |
| [20:24:00] | bill6502: | I'm getting the same error message, and the URL looks good. |
| [20:24:20] | tgm4883: | bill6502: you are right now? |
| [20:24:46] | bill6502: | seconds ago |
| [20:25:11] | tgm4883: | bill6502: OK, that makes me feel better about the patch |
| [20:25:14] | bill6502: | and again |
| [20:25:29] | tgm4883: | but not so great about pushing the patch to our users |
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| [20:29:47] | bill6502: | 1st time I've seen that error too. I got 310 logs saved and it isn't in any of them. |
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| [21:01:05] | SteveGoodey: | Yah, forums are back. |
| [21:03:12] | stuarta: | i just rebooted the host, they'll be gone again shortly |
| [21:03:27] | stuarta: | then, i'll be testing kdump, so they'll go again for a bit |
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| [21:19:12] | stuarta: | right, crashing my host to test kdump now |
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| [21:46:05] | rmeden: | tgm4883 "back end server at capacity?" wow.. never saw that message before |
| [21:46:43] | tgm4883: | Yea kind odd |
| [21:47:51] | rmeden: | hmm only time above 50% CPU was when I was loading data around 9am eastern |
| [21:48:26] | stuartm: | rmeden: hitting the max connection limit? |
| [21:48:46] | tgm4883: | rmeden: I'm getting that error right now |
| [21:49:01] | rmeden: | whoa.. amazon load balancer says no healthy hosts |
| [21:52:29] | rmeden: | try now |
| [21:52:46] | rmeden: | I think fail2ban on the server thought the load balancer test was a bad guy |
| [21:53:39] | rmeden: | certainly running into a bit of growing pains with amazon services .. well, just the load balacner |
| [21:53:53] | rmeden: | soon I'll be removing it... I don't think it will help us much anyway |
| [21:58:52] | stuartm: | fwiw, I think stuarta has gone to bed forgetting to bring the forums back up after testing |
| [21:59:29] | tgm4883: | rmeden: it's looking better, downloading now |
| [22:04:04] | rmeden: | yea, not sure how to make much out of the MythTV logs... if you found a problem in the downloaded data, that I could help with. |
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| [22:14:58] | tgm4883: | rmeden: it's fixed now, it grabbed the data |
| [22:27:30] | sheedy-away is now known as sheedy | |
| [22:28:15] | tgm4883: | rmeden: I've put in a pull request to get the patch added, so hopefully we'll see it merged soon and in tonights builds |
| [22:35:04] | rmeden: | cool |
| [22:35:23] | rmeden: | I'll try and keep the server up :) |
| [22:46:07] | tgm4883: | rmeden: hmm, I just noticed that I'm missing some upcoming recordings after doing that sync |
| [22:46:37] | tgm4883: | I have 8 channels that have no data |
| [22:48:04] | tgm4883: | oddly enough, I also don't seem to have these selected in the SD website interface :/ |
| [22:48:18] | tgm4883: | which is odd, because I definitely was getting AMC before |
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| [22:59:20] | tgm4883: | rmeden: so I just did a hosts file change to pull the data from TMS instead and I've got 7 of those 8 channel's data back. Not sure what you want to do with that info |
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