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| [07:41:58] | dekarl: | jya, 4K content? Lots of slide shows with great holiday pictures from uncle bob :D oh and http://www.youtube.com/user/devinsupertramp |
| [07:42:17] | jya: | Do you classify this as OTA? |
| [07:42:30] | jya: | and they still haven’t settled yet on which 4K format would be use in bluray |
| [07:42:38] | jya: | so 4K for media is a long way away |
| [07:43:11] | jya: | The other issue is that I believe there’s still a 2048 pixels limit with VDPAU |
| [07:43:14] | dekarl: | I understood its OTA and 4k |
| [07:44:33] | jya: | yeah, Feature C is still 2048 max height (or width) |
| [07:45:25] | jya: | it does allow for 16384 surface |
| [07:45:51] | jya: | ah feature set D allows 4080 |
| [08:10:42] | dekarl: | lol, so no hardware support for 4096x2160 cinema style 4K? oh my |
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| [14:22:22] | stuartm: | heh, someone is trying to hijack my freenode account |
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| [16:09:53] | stuartm: | ok, I'm going to say it, how hard would it have been for SD to work with xmltv so we'd not have a repeat of the upheaval with mythfilldatabase having to be rewritten for the second time because of a change of upstream data for North American users? |
| [16:10:31] | stuartm: | and with Robert Eden on the SD board? wtf? |
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| [16:25:23] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuartm: Re: SD. I tried (on the -users list) to suggest that they do it the XMLTV way (and also to not overload the mythconverg DB). |
| [16:25:56] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuartm: but as I am not doing the coding, who am I to say? |
| [16:29:23] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuartm: To be a bit fair, SD provides some data that XMLTV has no (obvious to me) method to include, and (from observation) getting the XMLTV org to agree on changes seems to stall (I seem to recall that there are something like 3 proposals for lineups, and no decisions). |
| [16:31:06] | stuartm: | xmltv is not a closed spec, and Robert Eden (who is the lead xmltv maintainer) could easily push through the necessary extensions |
| [16:31:32] | stuartm: | especially if they'd started with that approach months ago when they first knew of this |
| [16:32:43] | stuartm: | the particular advantage of an xml spec is that you can add to it without breaking backwards compatibility, so it's not strictly necessary for every single xmltv grabber dev to agree to or implement any new stuff |
| [16:32:46] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuartm: Not being in the room, I have no idea how the decisions were made. |
| [16:34:08] | stuartm: | it's just very frustrating, especially since this time around there aren't any active North American devs with experience of hacking on mfdb to do the work, so we may very well get stuck with some ropey sounding php! scripts |
| [16:34:26] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuartm: You are preaching to the choir. I suggested that SD go the XMLTV route. I believe sphery also chimed in on the topic. |
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| [19:08:18] | gigem: | I have a friend whom I'd helped install mythbuntu a few years ago. He never kept his system even semi-current and when he tried to finally update it last night, it was a catastrophe and a full reinstall is now needed. There is a DB backup and the media drives were unaffected, so it's just a matter of deciding which OS and mythtv packages to install. I still prefer Debian testing and compiling my own |
| [19:08:20] | gigem: | mythtv, but that's definitely not for him. His two best choices are probably mythbuntu or plain ubuntu + mythtv. Is there a difference between the two? |
| [19:23:41] | stuartm: | gigem: no real difference, mythbuntu just comes as one pre-configured bundle, but uses the same packages available by using ubuntu + mythtv |
| [19:25:34] | stuartm: | mythbuntu will be the easiest for a dedicated mythtv box |
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| [23:40:47] | taylorr: | gigem_: for Ubuntu, you should just need to 'apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop' and this should make it look and feel just like a pure mythbuntu install |
| [23:42:08] | gigem_: | stuartm, taylorr: Thanks. |
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