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[05:23:43] dekarl: stuarta/stuartm, should we add the FixHDTV fixup to some Freeview channels that don't add the AVD HD stream descriptors to their EIT? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=353
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[07:47:54] stuartm: dekarl: can't hurt
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[10:51:50] stuartm: does anyone know if we've allocated the 6445 port to anything yet? I'm thinking of using it for the SSL enabled tcp server, alongside the unencrypted server on 6544
[10:53:30] stuartm: oops, that should be 6545
[10:54:16] stuartm: with the right port, turns out to be used by the lcdserver :(
[10:56:12] stuartm: looks like 6549 is the first free one, not exactly memorable
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[11:20:50] jya_: has mythgallery been moved to storage group yet?
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[11:58:48] stuartm: no and it won't be, there's a completely re-written replacement in master, but it's riddled with bugs and needs some attention
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[12:07:54] stuartm: jya_: ^^ The new version uses storage groups, but it also uses the services API instead of the protocol which I think was a mistake, at least at this point in time as we've a whole eventing system built on the internal protocol which offers much better integration and a smoother experience for the end user
[12:09:00] jya_: ok.. so what’s the go with mythgallery in 0.28 then? it’s going to be removed for the time being? being worked on etc?
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[12:37:03] stuartm: I'd like to fix up the new one sufficiently to have it replace the old mythgallery in 0.28
[12:37:35] stuartm: hopefully it won't require too much of my time
[12:43:06] jya_: can you update the database just using the backend?
[12:43:19] jya_: i always found that i needed to start mythtv-setup to do that
[12:44:46] jya_: oh i see.. i need to type yes in the console
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[13:03:55] jya_: well… finding the header in the raw AC3 stream, is much harder than I had hoped :(
[13:04:06] jya_: first you have to find the sync in there.
[13:04:07] stuartm: dblain: do you recall what the reasons were for creating MSocketDevice instead of using Q{UDP|TCP}Sockets ?
[13:04:13] jya_: and it’s close to decode it all
[13:04:32] jya_: aren’t MSocketDevice reference counted ?
[13:05:35] stuartm: no, they aren't
[13:05:54] stuartm: and you could still wrap a QTcpSocket in MSocketDevice
[13:06:48] jya_: that looks like ancient code
[13:06:59] jya_: to emulate a Qt3 socket
[13:07:45] jya_: and not bother to check qt4 :)
[13:08:19] stuartm: only asking because I'm about to rip it all out, and I was wondering if there are any gotchas I should be aware of
[13:08:45] stuartm: I can't implement SSL in the http server with that stuff in there, so it's got to go
[13:12:07] stuartm: annoyingly I had a tiny patch which added SSL to ServerPool, then discovered that a whole bunch of classes which derive from ServerPool reimplement the all the critical stuff ... httpserver is the one I particularly want the ssl support for, so I need to rewrite it to use the sockets managed by ServerPool
[13:29:49] jya_: ah! reason we don’t see the audio change actually appears trivial !
[13:31:12] jya_: it also appears that it dumps the whole audio packet when there’s a change detected.
[13:31:15] jya_: i wonder why that is
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[14:15:58] warpme: jya: few weeks ago You mention about LVR provided You updated patches. Are those updates related to LiveTV history walking issue introduced by oryginal LVR patches?. I'm asking as oryginal LVR patches – while breaking LiveTV – were really nice improvement in LiveTV channel switchig area (no annoying audio stuttering when LiveTV channel is switched).
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[18:00:28] stuartm: the http server currently uses IdealThreadCount which is equal to the number of cores, that's a bit low IMHO, better to be processing several requests concurrently but a little slower than queuing them? Thoughts?
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[18:38:54] dblain: stuartm: I forget the details, but MSocketDevice was used because the only alternative at the time couldn't handle what we needed to do. (can't remember if it's related to multicast, or buffering the data, or something else). I know a lot has changed in the Qt library, plus others have made changes to the http server and socket handling in MythTV as a whole.
[18:39:44] dblain: I'm all for bringing it up to using Qt4.8 (or 5) classes as long as they have all the features we need.
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[18:44:20] stuartm: I've got it happily using QTcpSocket for the main http server, haven't attempted to convert over the upnp subscription stuff etc yet
[18:45:23] sphery: stuartm: this is a short description of why from danielk: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-10-23:18:29:24
[18:45:40] sphery: there was more discussion prior to that, but I haven't found it, yet
[18:45:57] stuartm: unfortunately because the http server processes requests in threads (entirely reasonable), I had to abandon the idea of implementing SSL support where it could be re-used for other servers e.g. ROAP etc, and I'm instead intending to implement it for the http server only
[18:48:22] sphery: [17665] was the commit that brought it in
[18:48:22] MythLogBot: SVN 17665: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/06602aa0
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[18:57:45] stuarta: dekarl: the eit fixups should mark programs as hd
[19:02:00] dekarl: stuarta: it appears to not be working. maybe its just a new transport_id? maybe the signalling of [HD] changed or got removed?
[19:03:13] stuarta: the eit fixups are very specific on the channels they match, so any variations in the serviceid/transportid/networkid could potentially cause it
[19:03:23] stuarta: +uk
[19:07:12] stuartm: sphery: not sure how much of what Daniel said is valid any more, for the http server none of it would seem to be, but I'll commit these changes to a public branch for testing before they go into master
[19:08:46] stuartm: for the http server the QTcpSocket object is only used in a single thread and QTcpSocket doesn't need an event loop if you're not using it to listen for a new connection
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[19:09:32] stuartm: even then there's QTcpServer::waitForNewConnection() which is offered as a workaround for that limitation
[19:09:45] stuartm: "Although QTcpServer is mostly designed for use with an event loop, it's possible to use it without one. In that case, you must use waitForNewConnection(), which blocks until either a connection is available or a timeout expires."
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[19:30:14] dekarl: stuarta, lets collect the dvb ids and see if they even get FixUK applied, if not we can look further
[19:34:55] stuarta: good plan
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[20:29:51] stuartm: hitting a strange issue with the http server once it's converted over to QTcpSocket, although I think it's only occuring now because we keep connections alive longer, but the browser is opening connections with keep-alive but never reuses them, so new connections are blocked until the socket timeout is hit :/
[20:32:09] stuartm: does anyone know of an http 1.x validation tool?
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[21:59:06] jya: warpme: I have update LVR patched yes
[21:59:19] jya: didnt have the time to review them yet
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[22:20:39] jya: stuartm: doesn’t the w3c web site have that?
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