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Sunday, August 10th, 2014, 02:13 UTC

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jya:

dblain: I’m done with the 2.3 resync

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jya:

if I understand properly, you use your own copy ?

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jya:

upgrading to 2.3 on the myth side of thing was rather trivial as for once they haven’t changed any API

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jya:

just more deprecated stuff

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dblain:

jya: thanks. I use the copy in the mythtv tree.

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jya:

I’ve merged the new 2.3 into the devel/iptv branch

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jya:

because that branch has a buildbot

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jya:

so will see if that compiles on all platform

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jya:

and then will merge into master as I don’t expect any breakage (touch wood) seeing it was a rather straight forward resync. the only difficulty was configure

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dblain:

I won't be able to look at it for a week or so, but when I get a chance, I'll try building it with visual studio 2013 to see if it fixes the problem that prompted my request.

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dblain:

Thanks again for taking the time.

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jya:

really need to implement a MythFilter class

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jya:

one that could be dynamically loaded and applied to either video decoding or audio decoding

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jya:

could be use for deinterlacing, applying effects and the like

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dblain:

jya: sounds like it would be a good idea.

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jya:

paulh is the one who first suggested it

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dblain:

I'm going to need to do a manual distclean on ffmpeg on the msvc build machine since it speeds up the build by only re-building when it's missing. (it would add 1.5 hours to each build if done every time) :(

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jya:

1.5 hours to build ffmpeg ????

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jya:

since I’ve made ccache to 10Gig

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jya:

I build myth in only a couple of minutes now

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dblain:

windows doesn't support ccache (as far as I know).

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dblain:

it uses pre-compiled headers which would require too many code changes to setup correctly (order of #include's in each source matters)

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-linux-64bit-clang is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . ang/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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dblain:

that's due to me forcing a distclean.

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jya:

I’m not surprised it fails to build

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jya:

I hadn’t refresh master before my new branch

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jya:

and it doesn’t include the fixes you added to libmythmetadata

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jya:

so I know it won’t build on windows

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jya:

I did a sequential merge after that, which include the changes

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dblain:

sorry... not me! different build slave... it popped up as soon as I ran the distclean! :)

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jya:

but you won’t see that until that build is complete

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jya:

next build should be fine

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dblain:

jyi: that failure I thougt was windows was clang.

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jya:

the only changes in myth code in that resync is to mythtranscode… they moved the definition of an external to another header

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jya:

which may not exists in the previous ffmpeg 2.2 (i don’t know)

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jya:

weird

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jya:

looks like libavcodec now has a dependency on libswresample

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jya:

funny it build here, and I use clang

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dblain:

maybe it worked for you if you had some parts left over on your machine... build bot was clean env so failed?

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jya:

i did see in the comment in their makefile, about having to link in a special order due to cross dependencies

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jya:

nah, I do a full clean first

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-linux-64bit-icc is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . icc/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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jya:

that won’t be hard to fix I don’t think

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jya:

same error

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-ubuntu-12_04-lts-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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dblain:

windows build is under way with a clean env, so we will see if it compiles clean. I need to go... I'll try to check back later.

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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jya:

yeah, libavcodec has a dependency on libswresample now.

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-debian-wheezy-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/6 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-f20-qt5–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-f20–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv-f20-64bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-f19–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv-f19-64bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-fedora-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-ubuntu-12_04-lts-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-linux-64bit-icc is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . icc/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-linux-64bit-clang is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . ang/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-f20–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv-f20-64bit/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-fedora-32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-f19–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv-f19-64bit/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #7 of iptv-debian-wheezy-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/7

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #6 of iptv-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/6

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MythBuild:

build #5 of iptv-win8-msvc-2010–32bit is complete: Failure [4failed Configure and Build] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/iptv . . . bit/builds/5 blamelist: David Blain <dblain@mythtv.org >, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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MythBuild:

build #519 of master-f20-qt5–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/519 blamelist: Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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jya_:

what are those new errors in f20? /usr/bin/ld: hdhomerun_channels.o: relocation R_X86_64_32S against `.rodata' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

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jya_:

that’s compiling libhdhomerun which doesn’t use ffmpeg at all

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jya_:

was that failing before?

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MythBuild:

build #5215 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/5215 blamelist: Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@mythtv.org >

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jya_:

why would that compile before in the iptv branch? sigh

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jya_:

seems to be a temporarily failure for freebsd

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jya_:

how do you force a build again?

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dekarl:

what a joke, debian – masters of breaking stuff with local patches – tell us to "try to upstream again"...

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stuartm:

MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit

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MythBuild:

build forced [ETA 24m43s]

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MythBuild:

I'll give a shout when the build finishes

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dekarl:

MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit looks like a temporary failure

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MythBuild:

The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts

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stuartm:

!trout dekarl

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** MythLogBot slaps dekarl with a trout on behalf of stuartm... **

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dekarl:

MythBuild: stop build master-freebsd-64bit one build is enough :/

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MythBuild:

build 5216 interrupted

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MythBuild:

build #5216 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Exception [6exception interrupted] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/5216

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MythBuild:

build forced [ETA 24m43s]

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MythBuild:

I'll give a shout when the build finishes

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dekarl:

hmm, how do I dequeue a queued build?

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stuartm:

you can't dequeue from irc, you can stop a running build with 'stop build'

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stuartm:

http://docs.buildbot.net/0.8.1/IRC-Bot.html

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dekarl:

hmm. fatal: Unable to create '/home/buildslave/mythtv/master-freebsd-64bit/source/.git/index.lock': File exists.

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dekarl:

guess that triggered the new clone

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jya_:

dekarl1: that’s was what my last message to debian-devel was referring to...

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MythBuild:

Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #5217 is complete: Success [3build successful]

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5217 **

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MythBuild:

Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/5217

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dekarl1:

jya_, aye saw that later. I don't like this attitude "This is proper Linux, not a Windows playground".. "but the security bugs"...

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jya_:

dekarl: what he was referring to however, was to try to submit our patches again, and that it would likely be easier to do so (all the very opinionated people on those projects appear to be gone)

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stuartm:

dekarl: the more I hear from Debian the less I like, the "do it our way, or else" attitude and the seeming belief that they are the one true voice of linux ...

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stuartm:

they need a good slap

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stuartm:

if I had the energy I'd gather support from other projects and write them an open letter condemning their practice of fiddling with code and breaking applications as a result

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stuartm:

it would need some big names to make any impact, clearly Mozilla on their own failed to change attitudes

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stuartm:

nor did the bad publicity from the SSH key fiasco

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dekarl:

stuartm, there lots of other instances http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2013/08/security-debianisms.html http://web.archive.org/web/20140412061357/htt . . . ity-feature/

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dekarl:

"The Debian maintainers tried to fix the problem by replacing the aligned suhosin_config variable with a pointer." why do packagers "fix" security features?

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stuartm:

those that can do, those that can't package?

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stuartm:

a saying that might be lost on those who haven't heard the original – "Those that can do, those that can't teach"

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stuartm:

methinks there should be more commas, "Those that can, do, those than can't, package"

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dekarl:

s/teach/preach/ in that case ;)

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dekarl:

well, or package

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stuartm:

;)

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stuartm:

maybe we should start our own distro

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dekarl:

well, our teacher kept telling us "I'm coming from the industry, I even wrote a (hand-)book on that topic!"... he wasn't amused when we said "you know, there must be a reason why you're not in the industry anymore" :D

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stuartm:

if it weren't for our no binaries policy I'd suggest that we released our own debian packages

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dekarl:

the deb packaging has seen lots of fixes to make it fit Debian's requirenments. Maybe dmo can simply ship our stock packages. After all he gets back to us to upstream his patches.

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dekarl:

stuartm, oh my... been looking at the logs to see what I missed and ended up 4 months ago http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2014-04-10:20:0

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warpme:

jya: just quick Q regarding reverting: I see You reverted cc927f6. Just FYI: reverting this commit alone resolves issue with LiveTV history walking but with this only commit reverted I had issue with too-low fps on some channels (17fps on 25fps chanels popups). If this revert is work-in-progress – forget my comments...

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jya_:

warpme: give me some samples…

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jya_:

because i have no such problem...

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jya_:

and no this is not a work in progress, i’m done investigating that issue

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jya_:

warpme: is that in master only or also in devel/027candidates?

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warpme:

OK – if this fixes #12226 then let me build current master and to tests. My comment was based on tests from few weeks ago....

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12226 **

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warpme:

those tests were on master

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warpme:

I remember I reverted cc927f6 and was happy for about evening or two then discovered some HD channels have broken LiveTV. Nevermind – let me build FE/BE with current master and test how it goes....

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warpme:

damn: can't build current master. Error is: "./configure: line 7606: syntax error near unexpected token `}'"

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warpme:

"./configure: line 7606: `}'"

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jya_:

warpme: seeing that it passes all the buildbot, i would suspect something on your side… especially as you never run a clean, stock code

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jya_:

there is an error there

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jya_:

will fix it asap

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warpme:

interesting is that only cross-compile buids fails....

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jya_:

there you go

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jya_:

let me know you how you...

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dekarl:

stuartm, I just posted a wiki link to the forum and wondered if a BBCode for wiki articles would make sense (maybe we'll move back to wiki.mythtv.org/Article, who knows) what do you think of it? [wiki]Lossless Cut[/wiki]?

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dekarl:

hmm, maybe with an optional page= parameter when you want to have a different link text and page/section title

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warpme:

hmm: current master with cross-compile still nogo. Error is: http://pastebin.com/P4sX7TBJ

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jya_:

oh actually the code was actually correct

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jya_:

warpme: should be good now

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warpme:

jya: it builds OK now :-)

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stuartm:

dekarl: sounds good to me

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jya_:

going to merge devel/027candidates into fixes/0.27

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jya_:

it’s been sitting for over a month now, it has all the metadata rework

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jya_:

Will wait a couple of days, after that hope to tag 0.27.4

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jya_:

jpabq: sorry i didn’t get to work on your timestretch issue.. i had hoped i would have time this week-end…. will definitely look into it next week-end

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drac_boy:

just curious as can't seem to find any references as far as I've looked...does mythtv support viewing dv video sources or not atm?

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jya_:

don’t see why not...

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jya_:

the media itself i mean

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drac_boy:

mm..thanks..a bit surprised I can't find any pages for it but I haven't looked at all of them yet tho

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jya_:

if you mean recording straight from DV cameras, that’s a different story

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drac_boy:

nah don't quite need to record...its just a matter of looking at the video from a 30" tv instead of the 2" flip-out screen :)

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jya_:

let me try

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drac_boy:

but like I said..ty :)

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jya_:

yeah.. sample from there http://libdv.sourceforge.net/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/libdv/pond.dv?download

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jya_:

plays just fine

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jya_:

that’s with master

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jya_:

allright, off to bed. see ya guys

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gigem:

stuartm: There is still a lot of good things about Debian(*), but it is sadly true that some parts of it have become little fiefdoms that are ruled with iron fists. For unknown reasons, the libav crowd in Debian appears to have enough clout to squash the use of ffmpeg to the detriment of several packages and consequently users. I guess the "Our priorities are our users" part of the social contract is only

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gigem:

used when it's convenient. (*)One is that anything that can be packaged, generally is, and to a much higher quality than you'll find in the random PPAs and external yum repositories that are often needed with other distros.

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stuartm:

gigem: I should be clear that I'm not anti-Debian, just packagers who mess with code since few users know this goes on, probably some devs don't either and the breakage they cause is detrimental to our projects reputation

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stuartm:

Debian just seems to be a repeat offender and one of the more prominent ones

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stuartm:

so every now and then I lose my temper, stamp my feet, moan for a while then push it to the back of my mind and carry on as normal :)

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stuartm:

one man, one project isn't going to change their minds, the only thing that possibly might would be a whole bunch of big and small projects restricting the use of their trademarks or similar

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stuartm:

that would filter down to the users who might persuade the Debian team to rethink their policies

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