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Wednesday, June 25th, 2014, 00:13 UTC

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jya:

am I the only one seeing that when the PiP picture is paused, the main video starts stuttering ?

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jya:

dblain: are you using the D3D video decoder ?

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jya:

in theory, for hardware decoded frame, that's one area where using the USWCCopy class would do massive improvement, over 10% acceleration

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jya:

is there a documentation on how to compile for windows?

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stuarta:

morning all

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dreamcat4:

does mythtv support "VTuner" protocol for networked dvb devices ?

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stuarta:

never heard of the protocol, we do iptv

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dreamcat4:

hmm. so does tvheadend.

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stuarta:

what networked dvb devices were you thinking of?

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dreamcat4:

the problem i have is i'm on FreeBSD, we only seem to have webcamd here (which is based on video4linux)

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dreamcat4:

... and webcamd will only serve as "vtuner" it says (not iptv)

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dreamcat4:

stuarta: local daemon in a freebsd jails (webcamd)

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stuartm:

we support HDHomeRun networked DVB tuners, those would work on BSD

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stuartm:

they connect directly to the network (ethernet)

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stuarta:

http://code.google.com/p/vtuner/wiki/BigPicture <-- this is informative

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dreamcat4:

ah... right

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stuarta:

as are the proposed kernel patches https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/894212/

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dreamcat4:

it's like a peer-to-peer thing

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stuarta:

i thought we already supported the dreamboxes anyway

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stuarta:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Dreambox-NetworkRecorder

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dreamcat4:

thanks for the help stuarta, it was very informative

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stuarta:

np, it's actually an interesting concept

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dreamcat4:

i guess it is used when you have multiple computers in the house, and want to ferry the signal over from one PC to another

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dreamcat4:

or maybe one of the boxes is an under-powered (like some embedded system / linux appliance), and the other is the proper server for mythtv

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** dreamcat4 scatches chin :/?=\ **

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stuarta:

yes, dreamboxs are appliances http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/en/products

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dreamcat4:

cool man. however i'm going the budget route myself

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dreamcat4:

old budget laptop running FreeNAS (FreeBSD), cheap-o USB-2.0 tv tuner (DV-B or DV-S)

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stuarta:

that doesn't turn up as a dvb device?

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dreamcat4:

so my NAS is also my PVR. Which is just-as-well since that's the place i'm going to record and stream those recordings from

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dreamcat4:

stuarta: it does. but FreeBSD jails have restrictions about creating new /dev/nodes

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stuarta:

sometimes it's easier not to live in a jail

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dreamcat4:

yeah. so i'm gonna install webcamd(=cuse/video4linux) in a chroot instead. which aught to get around that

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dreamcat4:

wheras mythtv / tvheadend need only read access to /dev/ devices (not create them)...

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dreamcat4:

so hopefuly those part will jail OK

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dreamcat4:

s/read/rad-write/

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stuarta:

looking at that big picture, i don't see a need for us to directly support vtuner protocol

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stuarta:

now i could see a use for vtuner, providing a tuner device on the machine in my office, when the card is elsewehere

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jya:

what's the default extension of a X11 version 7 bitmap file?

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wagnerrp:

stuarta: right, the point is we shouldn't have to. you just mount the vtuner as a normal system tuner, and access it as normal

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dblain:

jya: I don't use mythfrontend so I haven't had an oportunity to use the d3d decoder. To compile on windows using Visual Studios (express edition should work): http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Windows_using_Visual_Studio

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jya:

dblain: thanks.. I'll give it a try

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jya:

anyone with samples of nuppel videos , of various types (compress RTjpeg etc..)

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dblain:

jya: fyi, the windows build is currently having a problem with linking mythavutil in libmythtv (unresolved externals, even though the methods listed are exported in mythavutil). I've spent a little time on it, but haven't found a solution yet.

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jya:

libmythavutil or mythavutil the new file I added? (but that's just a header, with static functions)

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dblain:

yeah, worded that badly... libmythtv won't link due to H263Parser referencing avpriv_strtod & avpriv_snprintf which are exported in mythavutil

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jya:

VS2010 doesn't support inline assembly for x86_64 ?

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dblain:

it does, by different syntax than gcc

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dblain:

but

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dblain:

oh, wait... no not on a 64bit build

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** dblain still hasn't had his morning coffee. **

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jya:

I remember having such issue with libmythutil not linking due to those entries too

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jya:

can't remember what I did to fix it...

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jya:

I had to add a CONFIG_ into the FFmpeg makefile, otherwise it wasnt exporting them

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jya:

in the end, I ended up not requiring those entries, so I remove them

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jya:

dblain: do you have any ideas why that would be: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . d3d.cpp#L481

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jya:

I can't make sense of what the format of that image would be

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jya:

width * 5 / 4 makes no sense

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jya:

it seems from the loop below that it's a YUV420P image, if that's the case it's all wrong

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jya:

since very recently, My logs are made almost exclusively of Player(6): SetStream ''

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jya:

which is MythPlayer::SetStream and called by MHIContext::EndStream

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jya:

seems that it creates a MHEG stream, and then close it immediately, doing so several times per second

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stuarta:

hmmm weird, do you have interactive tv there?

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jya:

no

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jya:

there's about 17 log entries per 1/100th second

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jya:

i do play with -v playback

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jya:

but this has a INFO loglevel

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stuarta:

DEBUG seems more appropriate

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jya:

my xterm output has a 500 lines buffer, it can't even show me a full second log logs

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jya:

for me debug would still show it. But I'm more concerned about how much that function is called

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jya:

(I do need debug level)

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stuarta:

weird

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jya:

I've unchecked interactive TV in the settings, I've stopped playback about 2 minutes ago, the log keeps pumping such data... there's so much of them :)

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jya:

ok.. I've done Xv, OpenGL, VDA handling of pitches > width in a video frame ... need to test vdpau and D3D...

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Quantum`:

Bug: Can't set TV metadata source.

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stuarta:

pardon?

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Quantum`:

It's true.

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** jya amazed by the quality of bug reports... **

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stuarta:

going downhill if you ask me

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Quantum`:

It's very simple.

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Quantum`:

Ok I'll use the formal reporting system.

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jya:

"It doesn't work"

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jya:

world's best summary of a problem and how to reproduce it :)

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Quantum`:

When I click in the space to enter the TV metadata source.... but it won't let me type anything, how should I describe it then?

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Quantum`:

I'm open to suggestions.

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stuarta:

jya: i've got better "server crashed, please provide RCA" with no info provided

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jya:

where are you "clicking". which application are you using.

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Quantum`:

mythfrontend|Settings|Metadata, and the space for the TV metadata source, which is supposed to be thetvdb.com... but is blank.

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Quantum`:

It's the only place to set that AFAIK.

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natanojl:

Quantum`: Because it's not an input field. It's supposed to be populated by mythfrontend by checking which grabbers exist and work

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** jya don't even have settings -> metadata **

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Quantum`:

natanojl: I have /usr/local/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py

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Quantum`:

... but it's not populating.

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natanojl:

Quantum`: Ok then, does it run from a shell? Like /usr/local/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -v

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Quantum`:

https://pastee.org/uyte5

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natanojl:

Looks good

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** jya have a great suspicion that D3D decoder doesn't work **

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Quantum`:

(except it says it's for themoviedb.org)

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natanojl:

Quantum`: There are other scripts under Television and Game

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Quantum`:

https://pastee.org/799vu

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Quantum`:

I compiled everything except the netflix.

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natanojl:

Quantum`: Well there you go

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Quantum`:

Where I go?

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Quantum`:

(Tony Beets...)

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Quantum`:

I have /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MythTV/ttvdb/tvdb_api.py

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natanojl:

Quantum`: You probably need to install python-mysqldb

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natanojl:

or oursql

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Quantum`:

Oh dear. Indeed not installed.

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Quantum`:

Indeed now I have thetvdb.com available. Although not games source. I wonder why themoviedb.org worked?

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Quantum`:

Still fails to fetch metadata for TV shows though.

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Quantum`:

Restarted the server and client.

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dblain:

jya: I have no idea why they would be offsetting the src frame by 1.25

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knightr:

Trac spam, cute...

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dekarl:

where should the year 1895 be filtered out? in the templates or already when loading from the database? (why do we store 1895 in the first place?)

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stuartm:

dekarl: I think it was considered a good 'no value' value, where 0 indicates we've not yet fetched a year, 1895 was used to indicate that there was no year available – or vice versa

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dekarl:

hmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1895_films

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stuartm:

aye, though those were hardly on general release, more along the lines of home video ;)

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dekarl:

I get 1895 displayed in Mythbuntu's default theme for videos without year. I'm wondering where to change it

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** dekarl wanders off to archive.org to find them, as their copyright holders might be dead for 70 years or more already **

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tgm4883:

dekarl: I don't believe that is a theme setting

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stuartm:

I'm not saying the using of '1895' was a good idea, possible we used it because an old source did, just explaining why it exists to begin with to the best of my recollection

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dekarl:

ok, reproduced it. its not in the main theme, but when playing back a video and hitting "i" twice, you see it in the OSD

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Dave77:

can mythtv do blindscan on gui?

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dekarl:

Dave77: I think you want #mythtv-users, but what is blindscan?

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stuartm:

dekarl: no

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stuartm:

dekarl: screen reader

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stuartm:

Dave77: no, sorry, I may look at what is required to add support but it's only very recently been requested for the first time

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Dave77:

its already been done on linux STB but depends on DVB card for linux

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stuartm:

Dave77: oh sorry, I'm getting blindscan mixed up with the screen reading app for blind people that was recently mentioned

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stuartm:

Dave77: perhaps you can point us to more information on blindscan or explain more about what you want?

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stuartm:

I'm a little confused now

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dekarl:

Ahh, that http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindscan ? No we don't support it, and its quite a bit of work as it does not fit into the current architecture

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stuartm:

dekarl: would you be so kind as to summarise that into English?

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dekarl:

Blindscan is useful for badly managed satellites where the NIT/PAT/PMT don't list all transports / services

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dekarl:

on Astra and Eutelsat its of little use

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stuartm:

oh, ouch, so literally checking every single possible variation for a hit?

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dekarl:

but it is useful for feedhunting, finding the uplink feeds *to* the broadcasters, where the audio/video is not always configured as a tv service

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Dave77:

yes for feedhunting

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stuartm:

a full scan on Astra takes long enough when you're only scanning for the visible services, can't imagine scanning for hidden ones, would take all day

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dekarl:

Dave77: MythTV is core speciality is scheduling recordings across lots of channels with good tv guide data.

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stuartm:

seems like extreme laziness on the part of broadcasters not to encrypt those feeds

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Dave77:

not asking for feature straight away.. linux STBs added it recently and they do similar thing

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dekarl:

Dave77: it doesn't fit into the design. MythTV (differently from other DVR software) relies on proper data from the broadcasters, e.g. SDT/PAT/PMT tables. On the opposite side there are programs like VDR the allow you to configure a map of audio/video PIDs that belong to a channel IIUIC.

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Dave77:

how many tuners at the same time can mythtv use?

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kormoc:

as many as you want

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stuartm:

and for each tuner you can record up to 5 channels at once (where all those channels are are on the same multiplex/transport)

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stuartm:

although 5 is an arbitrary limit, with a tweak of the source code you can record all available channels

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stuartm:

so long as your hardware can keep up

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stuartm:

for the average user, 2–3 tuners is more than enough to record all they ever want especially since the popular channels tend to be clustered onto a single multiplex, for commercial users 5 or more tuners

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