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[06:43:55] stuarta: oh ffs
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[07:06:22] dekarl: stuarta: iirc verm, one of the buildbot devs is a mythtv user. Opens the opportunity for mutuality :)
[07:06:22] dekarl: Now we need to find a cppcheck dev who's our user, too. ;)
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[07:48:53] sewardrobert: Hello, my cable company is moving to a 100% digital delivery. How best to build a mythtv box for this unfortunate upgrade?
[07:50:23] sewardrobert: I read the Digital Broadcast FAQ and saw the recommendation for Hauppage's Digital DVR tuner, so I would probably select that. Any advice beyond that?
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[07:53:17] stuarta: sewardrobert: please read the topic
[07:53:38] stuarta: dekarl: the buildbot guys have been quite responsive when i've submitted patches to them before
[07:55:42] stuarta: gary_buhrmaster: a rawhide builder is the best way to flush out undiscovered issues
[07:57:01] sewardrobert: Sorry. Let me get to the end-user room.
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[08:23:05] stuarta: dekarl: is going from uint64_t -> long long really the right thing to do to fix the compiler warning?
[08:23:41] stuarta: the whole reason for using uint64_t is it is a fixed size, while long long can be different sizes on different platforms
[08:24:29] stuarta: sheesh, the new cppcheck takes 1.5 hrs per run
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[08:37:39] dekarl-work: stuarta, I looked into going longlong -> uint64_t and the other way round. The generally preferred way turned into a can of worms, so I took the other route. But that appears to turn into another can of worms :(
[08:37:52] stuarta: :(
[08:38:13] dekarl-work: Next attempt will be introducing more types like seektable_position_t and original_network_id_t ...
[08:39:42] stuarta: ew
[08:39:45] dekarl-work: But for the latter I'd like to be able to use integers types like "16 unsigend bits or more" with checking that we don't stuff more then 16 bits into it.
[08:40:19] dekarl-work: the only thing I found was cppchecks ability to tag valid ranges to function parameters. but not to data types
[08:40:55] dekarl-work: e.g. "a program_number_t should never be zero when calling a function" could be done that way
[08:41:48] dekarl-work: I still don't know if we can warn for things like "you are assigning a network_id_t to a original_network_id_t" which both are 16 bit numbers
[08:44:46] dekarl-work: the same ideas apply to the cutlist to avoid mixup of 1-based internal db storage and 0-based external interface (or was it the other way around? need to document that more)
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[10:13:53] jya: dekarl: there’s no way there’s a need to include the QObject header, seeing that all qt objects inherit from QObject,
[10:14:18] jya: also, in the future, i would appreciate waiting to push changes on file I’m actively working on… find this very annoying
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[10:26:52] stuartm_: dekarl: I've already implemented season / episode pass through for recordings
[10:27:08] stuartm_: in master
[10:27:55] stuartm_: Allows the meta data grabber to overwrite it
[10:28:13] dekarl-work: stuartm_: hmm, but that breaks title+season+episode matching :(
[10:28:25] stuartm_: But it's working well here with xmltv and Eit
[10:28:40] stuartm_: ??
[10:28:54] dekarl-work: that's just luck, not by design :(
[10:29:43] stuartm_: Not understanding you and I'm about to board my plane...
[10:29:44] dekarl-work: see e.g. http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17794
[10:31:29] stuartm_: Its only a hint, users would need to manually enter info anyway
[10:31:36] stuartm_: Got to go
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[10:32:29] dekarl-work: The 'sans episode numbers' part. "If the series is exactly the same (sans episode numbers) and is simply being broadcast on a new network in a different locale it does NOT get a new entry in our database."
[10:32:34] dekarl-work: hm, to late
[10:38:11] dekarl-work: jya: I didn't intent to annoy you, sorry. Was hoping that the restart of the buildbot would result in a msvc warning summary and was eager to see it.
[10:39:34] jya: and did you get your warning?
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[10:41:53] dekarl-work: no, still no warning summary for msvc or the unit tests
[10:42:09] jya: i’m surprised it would compile with icc or clang seeing how picky those two are, ut not with msvc
[10:43:40] dekarl-work: I was surprised to see "error C2504: 'QObject' : base class undefined", too (looking at https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . d/logs/stdio )
[10:43:46] jya: so the change wasn’t required ?
[10:44:26] dekarl-work: the change fixed the build, but it added two headers
[10:44:33] jya: dekarl-work: then you would need #include <QObject> on almost every single header out there
[10:44:57] dekarl-work: maybe some corner case with the code generated by "moc"? I don't know
[10:47:19] dekarl-work: Hmm, we could add a "try" scheduler to be able to test fixes without commiting them... http://docs.buildbot.net/latest/full.html#try-schedulers
[10:48:00] dekarl-work: Need to read how that works
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[14:37:37] gary_buhrmaster: stuarta: re: rawhide. Yes, I understand that. However, whenever rawhide introduces a major upstream component I find I spend more time finding bugs in those (early) versions than in code I am actually working on. I do test (my stuff) against rawhide (or against specific upstreams) but I tend to wait for the new stuff to shake out a few months.
[14:43:35] gary_buhrmaster: stuarta: re: rawhide. gcc (as in this case) is always special at their major update. And while I am sure someone much smarter and knowledgeable regarding gcc would have identified the virtual function (apparent) optimization bug (and override flag) faster than I based on Richard's report, it is, in the end, an upstream issue that appears to already have a bug open on it (and "me toos" are not helpful to anyone).
[14:47:44] gary_buhrmaster: stuarta: re: rawhide. Someone has got to (and should) chase upstream bugs. More power to the project if it takes that on. I only dabble from time to time (some of the clang 3.4 early days were special too).
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[15:04:04] gary_buhrmaster: stuarta: re: rawhide. I guess I have just been burned (with duplicated effort) enough times that I tend to only run rawhide tests (compiles, etc.) when I feel I do not mind dedicating a few hours/days to figuring out what upstream has "improved" this past six months. Do not get me wrong, when it gets closer to branch time for a fedora a/b/rc I actively test. Just early periods of rawhide are sometimes interesting ("may you live in interestin
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[22:03:03] jya: sigh… I had already applied #11119 to my current branch… What’s the point of assigning yourself the ticket and accepting it if someone goes and modify it anyway...
[22:03:03] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11119 **
[22:38:49] gigem: jya: Sorry. You didn't assign it to yourself, though. stuarta did so 5 weeks ago and on shaky reasoning. I had some time today so I took care of it as that bug has bitten many people, including my parents, and has gone unfixed for way too long.
[22:39:35] jya: gigem: yeah… I wanted to test it so applied it locally and had it running for a few days
[22:43:04] jya: upgraded a test machine to ubuntu 14.04; now I cant use any X application over a ssh tunnel, the keyboard entry is all wrong. e.g. pressing s gives me 5
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[22:49:16] gigem: jya: FYI, I have been indirectly testing your changes on the Ceton recorder. It works, but there appears to be a locking or reference counting issue in the streamhandler. jpabq is going to look into it. I have a backtrace, but haven't tried to analyze it yet.
[22:49:51] jya: ok
[22:50:04] jya: and it didn’t work before (just curious)
[22:50:41] gigem: jya: It didn't work until your latest changes last weekend.
[22:50:52] jya: that’s great to hear
[22:51:37] jya: if the ceton uses unicast it couldn’t have worked as it was with the change dekarl applied
[22:52:14] jya: or if you used a hostname rather than an ip address
[22:52:17] gigem: jya: Have you tried running 'setxkbmap'. I've been using x2goclient lately and it has problems with some keys not working or working wrongly until I run setxkbmap without any arguments.
[22:53:07] jya: gigem: all i did is upgrade last night from 12.04 to 14.04, so i could test vdpau with nouveau and see where the code crashes…
[22:53:15] jya: trying setxkbmap right away
[22:53:21] gigem: I've always used it with the default IP address. I don't test it with master very much though since it's in my production backend.
[22:53:32] jya: right now ~12345 give me -> mertyu
[22:53:57] gigem: I bet that makes it tough to type! :)
[22:54:24] jya: sdfgh is 45768
[22:55:27] jya: nah...
[22:55:30] jya: did nothing
[22:55:37] jya: enter is j
[22:55:44] gigem: If you don't use the default kb, you might need to specify the layout you want.
[22:55:55] jya: i never ever touched anything there
[22:57:06] gigem: Does running xev on the remote system tell you anything useful?
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[23:05:55] jya: I’m rebooting to start with, lots of errors trying to install new packages (No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already)
[23:06:03] jya: never had a smooth upgrade with ubuntu ever
[23:06:12] jya: luckily it’s only once every two years
[23:07:03] jya: gigem: what I am supposed to look at with xev?
[23:07:06] jya: it’s very verbose
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[23:11:18] jya: hmm. it does so only with my laptop :(
[23:11:56] gigem: jya: I'm mainly just trying shots in the dark and was just curious what xev reports when you press 'a', for example. Depending on how it differs between xev being run locally and remotely might give you a clue where to go next.
[23:11:57] jya: oh well, closing X on my laptop and restarting it is all that was needed
[23:12:42] jya: that was putting focus on the window, pressing s (or d can’t remember)
[23:12:43] jya: http://pastebin.com/fQ19hssc
[23:13:36] gigem: That was with xev running remotely?
[23:14:06] jya: yes
[23:14:12] jya: did ssh -X machine
[23:14:17] jya: then ran xev
[23:15:04] jya: then did command-tab to be on the X window, pressed a key, and focused out
[23:15:26] ** jya like the look of the new synaptic **
[23:16:53] gigem: And everything works fine locally? If so, it sounds like the remote has its event mapping all confused. I'm not sure where to go next, though.
[23:17:29] jya: well, when I restarted X on my laptop, now it seems all fine
[23:17:38] jya: so maybe it was nothing…
[23:18:04] jya: ok.. so emacs doesn’t install now
[23:19:03] gigem: I always hate those problems that show up and then just go away without a good explanation. They can come back at any time.
[23:19:33] jya: i’ve learnt to ignore those … time waster :)
[23:19:43] gigem: I know there are always newer and shinier distros out there, but I'm happy to have stuck with Debian for 20 years now.
[23:19:53] jya: one I’d love to know is what drivers paul-h is using on his machine that broke vdpau for him
[23:22:00] ** gigem is going home now. **
[23:26:05] jya: talks of upnp being broken following
[23:26:11] jya: #12006
[23:26:11] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12006 **
[23:26:53] jya: they say neither VLC nor TV can retrieve list of files now
[23:26:57] jya: dekarl: /\
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