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| [04:25:00] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: do you mind if i clean up c0f0ec09? i'm not a hardcore stickler on the 80 column limit, but that runs almost double that |
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| [06:56:43] | wagnerrp: | does anyone remember an issue where if arguments were passed to an xmltv grabber by using — when calling mythfilldatabase, it could not be run automatically by the backend |
| [06:56:56] | wagnerrp: | as the backend would try to tack on its logging parameters after the — demark |
| [06:57:17] | wagnerrp: | i wrote up a patch for it, and i'm sure i posted it somewhere to test, but i can't find the related ticket |
| [06:58:12] | wagnerrp: | or even mention in the mailing list |
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| [07:31:16] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: any idea whats with all the "/" characters on the trac emails? i assume it had to do with the changes you made earlier today |
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| [17:10:35] | skd5aner: | stuartm, gigem: got the IDE-->SSD and 4GB-->16GB upgrades done on my server. mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all was taking about 2–3 hours before, now it takes ~24 minutes |
| [17:10:56] | stuartm: | that's much more like it |
| [17:11:41] | skd5aner: | also, after switching /tmp back to tmpfs (from the previous IDE drive), mythbackend --resched when from about 60 seconds to 14, but did not get any better after upgrading the RAM and SSD, it's still ~13–15 seconds every run |
| [17:12:20] | stuartm: | IMHO it sounds like the IDE drive was broken, stuck in UDMA 33 or at low rpm |
| [17:12:29] | skd5aner: | stuartm: indeed! :D My only quesiton is why was it so impactful to performance and lockups after 0.27? The hardware hasn't changed in many years |
| [17:12:58] | stuartm: | skd5aner: may have been a coincidence that the drive started misbehaving at that time? |
| [17:13:16] | skd5aner: | Smart was reporting at 133 if I recall correctly, that was the first thing I looked |
| [17:13:54] | skd5aner: | stuartm: it's hard for me to say one way or the other, and I'll have to observer other behaviors over the next week or so and see if they've better or not |
| [17:14:12] | skd5aner: | but, it certainly is possible |
| [17:15:00] | skd5aner: | either way – I knew this would likely make an impact, just hope it's not a bandaid – but even if it is, it's a great bandaid :D |
| [17:15:03] | stuartm: | smart doesn't always pick up on errors, especially ones involving faulty speed negotiation etc |
| [17:15:17] | skd5aner: | that drive needed to go anyway... |
| [17:15:22] | skd5aner: | it had served it's purpose |
| [17:16:00] | skd5aner: | stuartm, gigem: FYI – Scheduled 5026 items in 13.1 = 5.53 match + 4.28 check + 3.32 place |
| [17:16:49] | stuartm: | skd5aner: that run is about what I'd expect with that many scheduled items – I'm guessing a lot of visible channels |
| [17:17:44] | skd5aner: | I think across the 3 sources, over 600 |
| [17:18:23] | stuartm: | mine can take anywhere between 3 seconds and 0.9 seconds for close to a thousand items, so 5 x 3 = 15, is pretty much exactly where you'd expect it to be |
| [17:18:50] | skd5aner: | yea, sounds like a linear scale then |
| [17:19:01] | stuartm: | skd5aner: yeah, similar number of total channels here, but I hide the majority |
| [17:19:29] | stuartm: | ~100 visible |
| [17:19:30] | skd5aner: | stuartm: well, thanks for you help and patience working through all this with me... I'll keep you posted if the other symptoms continue or are resolved because of this |
| [17:20:02] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I actually have several that are hidden... I'll do a query and see how many are visible |
| [17:20:41] | skd5aner: | 798 total rows in the channels table |
| [17:21:17] | skd5aner: | 343 with the visible flag set to 1 |
| [17:22:20] | stuartm: | so still 3x as many as me, which will also contribute to a longer scheduler run |
| [17:25:47] | stuartm: | do you know what time mfdb would normally run on your system |
| [17:25:49] | stuartm: | ? |
| [17:26:03] | skd5aner: | priot to the "issues"? |
| [17:26:15] | skd5aner: | *prior |
| [17:26:35] | stuartm: | wondering if it was around the same time that the backend crashes were occuring |
| [17:29:39] | skd5aner: | I think it was approximately the same length of time, but I rarely had to check, as I wasn't seeing anything "weird" at the time – so I just left it unattended for years |
| [17:30:28] | skd5aner: | I can recall talking in -users about how long it took, just because I was always surprised at how long it took, but for no other reason that wanting to know if that length of time was long, or normal |
| [17:30:48] | stuartm: | sorry, I meant what time of day :) |
| [17:30:54] | skd5aner: | oh, sorry... |
| [17:31:32] | skd5aner: | yes... actually, I have myth setup to run between 3–6AM every day. I do not have the button set to automatically pick a time |
| [17:32:21] | stuartm: | and the crashes were around the same time in the morning, betting that's not a coincidence |
| [17:32:25] | skd5aner: | had it set that way for years, and, the reason I had done that is because mysql always did run the CPUs pretty high – so I ran it at that time to prevent any potential CPU contention |
| [17:32:30] | skd5aner: | stuartm: yea, agreed |
| [17:32:48] | skd5aner: | I see one good sign already... |
| [17:33:17] | skd5aner: | may be premature, but this is the first day where my slave backend wasn't disconnected in the morning |
| [17:33:25] | stuartm: | especially if mfdb was causing a very long scheduler lock somehow that explains all the threads which were 'stuck' waiting for the lock when the crash occurred |
| [17:35:31] | skd5aner: | could low IO cause that condition? |
| [17:36:46] | skd5aner: | stuartm: so, random question for you... do people in the UK care about the Super Bowl that much? Is it widely watched there? |
| [17:37:17] | stuartm: | skd5aner: conceivably I/O could, yes |
| [17:38:34] | stuartm: | skd5aner: no, it might be stretching it to say no-one at all cares about American Football, but it's definitely a tiny minority |
| [17:39:50] | stuartm: | hasn't stopped a channel in the UK broadcasting it in recent years with lots of hype and fanfare, I think trying to create some interest |
| [17:40:02] | skd5aner: | ya, same story here in regards to soccer and formula1 – a small minority cares, but not a huge fandom |
| [17:40:14] | skd5aner: | soccer is growing very slowly |
| [17:41:36] | stuartm: | I'd say a majority in the UK has heard of the Superbowl thanks to US TV and Film (where it's mentioned with irritating frequency), but it remains mostly sports/gambling addicts who follow it |
| [17:43:42] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [17:44:05] | stuartm: | the Superbowl in particular is hardly likely to attract much international attention because it's not an international tournament, whereas the World Cup, Formula 1 etc include participants from dozens of countries and every continent (except Antarctica) |
| [17:44:13] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [17:45:02] | skd5aner: | been getting over 110M viewers recently, and I know they broadcast to 198 countries, but broadcasting to 198 countries doesn't mean much if no one tunes in |
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| [17:46:05] | stuartm: | 198 countries is still impressive even if no-one is watching |
| [17:46:09] | skd5aner: | See, I'm an Indycar fan – so I have a natural dislike of F1. I respect it as race fan, but beyond that... |
| [17:47:05] | skd5aner: | and, sorry if this offends any of my non-US friends in here, but soccer is boring... haha |
| [17:47:06] | stuartm: | last world cup apparently managed viewing figures of 3.2 Billion |
| [17:47:26] | stuartm: | or 46.4% of the world's population |
| [17:47:27] | skd5aner: | yea... and all of them watched it with mute on (Vuvuzellas) |
| [17:48:08] | stuartm: | although those figures are suspect since "based on viewers watching a minimum of over one minute of coverage" |
| [17:48:26] | stuartm: | "Based on viewers watching a minimum of 20 consecutive minutes of coverage, the 2010 tournament reached nearly a third of the world population with 2.2 billion viewers" |
| [17:48:52] | stuartm: | 1 billion is a fairly large difference |
| [17:49:22] | skd5aner: | But, see... my wife is a soccer fan, and in fact, she used to work for US Soccer (Olympic and National/World Cup teams)... so, I suppose, I occasionally can be found rooting for them (or risk divorce) |
| [17:49:32] | stuartm: | skd5aner: Indy, that's the one where they drive round and round in a circle? |
| [17:50:06] | skd5aner: | Yes, Indianapolis 500 is a 2.5mile oval, with "short shoots" between the corners |
| [17:50:30] | skd5aner: | unlike most ovals where the turns are just half-circles |
| [17:51:14] | skd5aner: | But, the IndyCar series races about half of their races on road and street courses, and the other half on ovals |
| [17:55:54] | skd5aner: | One thing I really like about F1 is that they race everywhere... that's cool |
| [17:56:58] | skd5aner: | Indycar usually races in the US, Canada, and Brazil... sometimes Japan. I wish they'd do more international events, but it's pretty costly to run a race oversees |
| [18:00:06] | stuartm: | not an F1 fan myself, races are too long and crucially the team with the best car almost always wins, so it's not entirely about individual driver skill |
| [18:01:02] | skd5aner: | yea, any racing series isn't fun when there's isn't at least some parity amongst the teams/cars |
| [18:01:10] | stuartm: | besides which, they know those tracks so well they could drive them with their eyes closed, so again not really a truly nailbiting event |
| [18:02:37] | skd5aner: | Racing has lost much of it's appeal as speeds have nearly maxed out and safety has improved. They no longer are pushing the envelope. Each season is nearly a repeat of the last |
| [18:02:38] | stuartm: | there's a new one trying to gain momentum that's based on identical unmodified vehicles but ... |
| [18:03:50] | skd5aner: | back in the day, they were increasing speeds, and risking their lives... while it's still obviously dangerous, the risks are being mitigated and the speeds are either artificually limited or can't get any faster because of the condition of the track |
| [18:04:41] | skd5aner: | so, racing has become predictable... and the fans liked the danger and unpredictability of it |
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| [18:05:21] | skd5aner: | haha, as we talk about racing, a guy with the nick of "moparisthebest" leaves – lol |
| [18:28:21] | wagnerrp: | people get so protective whenever someone hints they shouldn't be tinkering in the database |
| [18:28:42] | wagnerrp: | do they not understand that having to tinker in the database means there's somewhere we screwed up? |
| [18:33:15] | skd5aner: | well said wagnerrp |
| [18:35:22] | skd5aner: | but, "screwed up" might be harsh... sometimes it's just a missing process or interface |
| [18:37:12] | wagnerrp: | a bug is a bug |
| [18:38:14] | wagnerrp: | although i do admit, there are some "bugs" in which i do not claim fault, such as network communication not working because some user using ssh port forwarding to fool mythfrontend into thinking the remote backend is local |
| [18:38:15] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [18:41:44] | skd5aner: | that was a weird one |
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| [18:47:50] | pvr4me: | #12039 |
| [18:47:50] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12039 ** | |
| [18:48:12] | pvr4me: | Not Found |
| [18:48:12] | pvr4me: | The requested URL /ticket/12039 was not found on this server. |
| [18:48:30] | pvr4me: | Something wrong with Trac? |
| [18:52:14] | stuartm: | working here |
| [18:52:27] | stuartm: | https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12039 |
| [18:53:22] | pvr4me: | Me too...now. Must have been waiting for you to poke it!! |
| [18:55:32] | stuartm: | well that's the last time I waste a good analogy |
| [18:56:44] | pvr4me: | I'm not air_drummer, btw! |
| [18:58:08] | pvr4me: | I appreciate the analogy but I do think there must be some quirk to QT window handling on OS X that isn't being satisfied. I know jya has spent a bunch of time on it and didn't find a clean solution. |
| [19:01:00] | stuartm: | still, if the OS locks up, it's ultimately an OS bug |
| [19:02:15] | stuartm: | not saying we can't do something to work around it, especially since I doubt Apple would rush out a fix even if it was reported to them |
| [19:02:26] | pvr4me: | He tends to go off the deep end pretty quickly...I don't know if this is a repeatable result. It certainly wasn't for me |
| [19:03:09] | pvr4me: | Yeah, that would be something to see--Apple rushing a fix for an open source problem!! ;) |
| [19:05:44] | pvr4me: | Although, seriously, there a couple of Apple developer types that work with the MacPorts project. One, in particular, looks for compiler issues and gets stuff fixed in the next XCode release. So it is not outside the realm of possibility. |
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| [20:04:44] | stuartm: | it's quiet today |
| [20:05:27] | pvr4me: | Yeah, there is some football thing happening this afternoon... |
| [20:06:05] | stuartm: | oh, is that why skd5aner was asking me about the superbowl earlier? |
| [20:06:41] | stuartm: | who knew we had so many sports fans :) |
| [20:09:08] | pvr4me: | A guy asked on the -users mailing list, a couple days ago, about a SuperBowl event at his church. In prior year(s?), somebody have recorded/presented it via Myth on Mac. I guess the 4–5 replies scared him off as he was not heard from again. |
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| [20:18:38] | dekarl: | stuartm, its sunday around here that means dads with kids being thrown out of the flats so moms can get something done ;) |
| [20:19:22] | stuartm: | dekarl: well it's dark here, and kids, the little ones anyway, should be in bed by now :) |
| [20:19:56] | dekarl: | well, it wasn't dark earlier ;) |
| [20:22:37] | stuartm: | I was hoping to get the test forum setup this weekend, but I guess it wasn't to be |
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| [20:27:18] | skd5aner: | stuartm: kickoff is 3 hours from now, but they do all-day coverage. Lots of people host parties, or go to bars. I, on the otherhand, will be staying home with the children today :) |
| [20:27:20] | warpme: | Evening all!. I'm twisting my head with quite strange behaviour with "Make "DailyArtworkUpdates" a global option" commit in 0.27-fixes. Namely: setting/unsetting it on any FE host hasn't any effect in DB data – but in the same time it removes data in global "DailyArtworkUpdates" entry (entry which has hostname as <NULL>). Hmm.... |
| [20:30:35] | skd5aner: | pvr4me: the NFL used to sue churches (and anyone else) who showed any NFL game (including the super bowl). They were very agressive about it – no mercy. Congress threatened to step in an intervene, and so the NFL final capitulated and said they would permit Churches to air the games |
| [20:31:12] | skd5aner: | their policy just changed a couple years ago |
| [20:31:30] | skd5aner: | http://www.gg-law.com/CM/Publications/GG_Law_ . . . ty_Legal.asp |
| [20:31:38] | pvr4me: | I wondered about that (I'm in Canada) |
| [20:32:08] | stuartm: | skd5aner: sounds awful |
| [20:35:22] | skd5aner: | stuartm: evil side of commercialism. The NFL is extremely protective of their brand. No one is allowe to even say the words: "Super Bowl" without there permission. Any network that isn't the one who is covering the Super Bowl that year, has to use the phrase "The Big Game" |
| [20:35:57] | stuartm: | skd5aner: I meant the all-day coverage, but that as well :) |
| [20:36:39] | skd5aner: | this year's Super Bowl is in Met Life Stadium, which is the home field for both the NY Giants an the NY Jets... but, the stadium isn't in New York, it's in New Jersey... in a town called "East Rutherford" which has a population of <9000... |
| [20:37:04] | skd5aner: | they wanted to host a block party on mainstreet, and the NFL threatened to sue them if they called it a "Super Bowl" party |
| [20:37:36] | skd5aner: | and, the mayor of the town wasn't invited to attend the game – so the owner of the Indianapolis Colts gave him one of his tickets |
| [20:38:06] | skd5aner: | (fyi, ticket prices START at $2500/ticket – that's the price actually printed on the ticket, not the street price) |
| [20:38:39] | skd5aner: | stuartm: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/31/blocked- . . . r-bowl-name/ |
| [20:38:41] | stuartm: | Supa Bole |
| [20:38:46] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [20:39:11] | skd5aner: | Yea, sorry if mythtv get's sued because I used the phrase "Super Bowl" in your IRC chat room |
| [20:39:58] | stuarta: | we are clearly discussing the event they work so hard to promote |
| [20:40:20] | stuarta: | btw. i do not want to know the result. i'm watching it in 24hrs time |
| [20:40:22] | skd5aner: | Meanwhile, the NFL allowed 2 other random cities to be "honorary host cities" – that are over an hour or more away... and they can use the phrase all they want. What a joke |
| [20:40:23] | pvr4me: | Yes, but without the proper degree of reverence! |
| [20:41:18] | skd5aner: | You can all thank Roger Goodell – the commissioner. He's done equally great and equally terrible things for the league and sport |
| [20:41:51] | stuartm: | skd5aner: there you go, stuarta is an exception to the rule |
| [20:41:59] | skd5aner: | heh... FOUND ONE! |
| [20:42:48] | stuartm: | skd5aner: it's an indictment of the legal system that common sense doesn't prevail |
| [20:45:21] | stuartm: | reminded of a story from a few years back about McDonald's suing the owner of a sandwich shop in Scotland, her surname was MacDonald and her shop was called MacDonald's Sandwiches |
| [20:47:27] | skd5aner: | She should have with with the Big MacDonald's Subway Shoppe! ;) |
| [20:47:50] | stuartm: | not sure if it got to court or if the bad publicity it caused meant they dropped it, but I can't imagine the judge would have ruled in their favour |
| [20:47:50] | skd5aner: | *went with |
| [20:48:46] | skd5aner: | stuartm: here's a good recent story of telling "the man" to shove it – http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/3 . . . er-beer-name |
| [20:48:47] | stuartm: | oddly enough, here's a very similar case mentioned by Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald's_lega . . . ies_.28UK.29 |
| [20:48:54] | stuartm: | eerily similar |
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| [21:11:39] | skd5aner: | hmmm, tracked own a bug... |
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| [21:22:38] | skd5aner: | d key is flaking out, dumb cheap laptop keyboards |
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| [21:51:00] | dblain: | stuartm: FYI – https://code.mythtv.org/trac doesn't work in IE11 |
| [21:51:41] | stuartm: | dblain: any error, or it just doesn't display? |
| [21:51:56] | stuarta: | i'd call that an improvement |
| [21:52:58] | wagnerrp: | doesn't work in safari either |
| [21:53:05] | stuartm: | wonder if it's possible that IE11 doesn't support a single available key exchange method |
| [21:53:51] | dblain: | Just doesn't display |
| [21:54:21] | stuartm: | all the 'weak' ones are disabled by default, but since we're on apache 2.2 that also means we don't have the new generation of Ephemeral Elliptical Curve Diff-Hellman available |
| [21:54:24] | skd5aner: | confirmed |
| [21:54:27] | wagnerrp: | safari goes completely nuts |
| [21:54:44] | skd5aner: | didn't work in IE11 here either, although that's the first time in probably 8 months I launched IE |
| [21:54:58] | skd5aner: | (except at work, where I'm forced to use it) |
| [21:54:59] | stuartm: | let me check what IE does and doesn't support |
| [21:55:04] | wagnerrp: | (at least iOS6 safari) |
| [21:55:18] | ** stuarta needs this vm to build quicker ** | |
| [21:57:42] | stuartm: | trust those two to be the ones that break |
| [21:58:28] | wagnerrp: | i'm just getting a blank page, and a flickering loading bar |
| [21:58:31] | stuartm: | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html? . . . eMismatch=on specifically indicates iOS6's safari should be OK |
| [22:01:08] | wagnerrp: | stuarta: i could be persuaded to offload a couple of those onto my backend |
| [22:01:48] | stuarta: | wagnerrp: buildslaves? |
| [22:02:01] | stuarta: | i'm going to kill off f18, as it's gone EOL |
| [22:02:15] | wagnerrp: | yeah, now that freebsd actually has a VM host (bhyve) |
| [22:05:33] | stuartm: | well RSA isn't an option with openssl because of patent issues, ECDHE isn't available with apache 2.2, DSS and RC4 are considered broken ... well done IE11 |
| [22:05:54] | stuartm: | guess I'll enable RC4 as a temporary workaround for noe |
| [22:05:56] | stuartm: | now |
| [22:08:03] | stuartm: | dblain, wagnerrp: can you try again? |
| [22:08:50] | wagnerrp: | same thing. the status bar just flickers between 10% and 90% loaded |
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| [22:12:01] | stuartm: | ah, forgot to add specifically add RC4 to the list after removing the blacklisting |
| [22:15:45] | stuarta: | wagnerrp: if you feel like creating an f19 and f20 buildslaves then i'll send you my notes |
| [22:21:31] | stuarta: | in fact the only change between the two is I switched from atrpms to rpmfusion for liblame |
| [22:21:51] | stuarta: | damn the text based f20 installer is painful |
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| [22:23:52] | stuartm: | strange, none of the changes I'm making are having any effect, it's as though I'm not editing the configs on the right machine |
| [22:24:00] | stuarta: | hehe |
| [22:24:26] | stuarta: | well you aren't logged in to my copy... |
| [22:25:13] | stuarta: | and since you aren't, i can fiddle the network config |
| [22:26:02] | stuartm: | can't do much on your copy, can't sudo without a password so apart from decorating my home directory ... :) |
| [22:26:53] | wagnerrp: | server boards are still VGA only? |
| [22:27:28] | stuarta: | hmmm, need to fix that... |
| [22:36:21] | stuartm: | wagnerrp, dblain: OK, should be fixed, lost us our A+ rating, dropped to A- ... we apparently need an A to keep our free cert (condition of the offer), not sure if A- counts :/ |
| [22:37:05] | wagnerrp: | time to try again? |
| [22:37:32] | stuartm: | can't do better until we've upgraded the server, Windows 8 support isn't possible since they only support key exchange methods that are either patent encumbered or unavailable with apache 2.2 |
| [22:37:44] | dblain: | stuartm: works now... sorry about the rating. |
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| [22:38:16] | wagnerrp: | no joy, safari is still buggered |
| [22:38:32] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: strange, what about https://mythtv.org |
| [22:39:37] | wagnerrp: | stupid editor won't let you select to start typing anywhere but at a space... |
| [22:40:23] | wagnerrp: | https://www.mythtv.org works fine. https://mythtv.org redirects to trac |
| [22:40:34] | wagnerrp: | so apparently it's trac, and not the encryption |
| [22:41:02] | stuartm: | damn it, why has it started doing that again? |
| [22:41:40] | stuartm: | was doing that the other night, didn't change anything that seemed relevant but it fixed itself, now it's back ... |
| [22:44:19] | ** stuarta larts the f20 installer. why did i bother to go setting static address for you to completely ignore them? ** | |
| [23:08:28] | stuartm: | I'm starting to get cranky |
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| [23:11:28] | stuarta: | if i get cranky too, would that help? |
| [23:21:11] | stuartm: | I have no f'ing clue why https://mythtv.org is being redirected to https://code.mythtv.org/trac |
| [23:21:21] | stuarta: | wagnerrp: emailed you some notes |
| [23:21:58] | stuarta: | stuartm: lemme have a look |
| [23:21:59] | stuartm: | I've gone through and disabled every possible re-write that might be involved, and it still does it |
| [23:22:17] | stuartm: | re-enabled them again fwiw |
| [23:22:47] | stuartm: | have a feeling that somewhere there are a couple of things fighting with each other, which is why safari is freaking out |
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