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Friday, January 3rd, 2014, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:13] wagnerrp: why did it decide to pull a new copy of the repository?
[00:00:28] wagnerrp: MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now
[00:00:29] MythBuild: build #4736 forced
[00:00:29] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[00:01:14] skd5aner: shout, shout, let it all out
[00:01:19] dekarl: looks like the fail safe kicked in "command timed out: 1200 seconds without output, attempting to kill" => "update failed, clobbering and trying again"
[00:01:39] wagnerrp: yeah, took more than 20 minutes to download, so it aborted
[00:03:12] MythBuild: Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4736 is complete: Retry [11retry exception slave lost]
[00:03:12] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4736 **
[00:03:13] MythBuild: Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4736
[00:07:32] dekarl: Finswimmer, in case you read the logs, see the code from http://code.mythtv.org/trac/browser/mythtv/my . . . ser.cpp#L498 onwards
[00:09:11] dekarl: we fix the program type to series if we get an episode number / title via episode-num "onscreen", but only if the subtitle is empty. The fixing of the program type and the copying of the episode number to the subtitle should be split into two branches.
[00:11:58] dekarl: stuartm: what do you think of that change? ^- always change the program type to series if we see an episode number, but only set the subtitle if it is empty.
[00:34:10] MythBuild: build #4737 forced
[00:34:10] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[00:41:42] MythBuild: Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4737 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[00:41:42] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4737 **
[00:41:43] MythBuild: Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4737
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[01:31:15] andyman53: Hey all
[01:31:34] andyman53: the blind are leading the blind in #mythtv-users if anyone could lend a hand
[01:31:40] andyman53: thanks
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[11:17:12] stuartm: sphery_: disabling alsa breaks the backend? Sure about that? I was under the impression that it only prevented the use of frame grabbers (requiring separate audio capture)
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[12:34:38] Merlin83b: stichnot: I know you were working on the issues with the guide on a remote ION frontend. I noticed last night that the guide in schedule recordings responds nice and fast, not sure if that's down to not having a tv window in the corner or if there's some other mechanism at play.
[12:35:00] Merlin83b: stichnot: That one presumably doesn't have to keep checking which channels it would be possible to tune to.
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[12:42:01] sphery: stuartm: breaks any writing of video--which includes frame grabbers, transcoding, HLS, ...
[12:42:20] sphery: and, IIRC, some other stuff, too, but I didn't want to look up the old threads
[12:42:35] sphery: we should really make it so that it's impossible to disable on GNU/Linux
[12:43:48] stuartm: or make it so that it doesn't break writing of video?
[12:44:02] stuartm: makes no sense that it should
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[13:32:18] ** stuarta agrees with stuartm **
[13:33:15] stichnot: Merlin83b: Cool. The Guide responsiveness changes should be in effect whether or not the TV preview window is being shown; it's just far more important when it is shown.
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[13:49:18] sphery: Well, then again, there is another perspective: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/128478#128478
[13:50:01] sphery: I mean, really, is it so bad to install alsa libs (which also give you OSS compatibility) on a system?
[13:50:44] sphery: I don't know why the video writing requires the audio libraries, but I'd think it's because we're using some of their functionality.
[13:51:12] sphery: if that's not the case, then, sure, rip out the useless code that assumes they're there but doesn't need them
[13:51:12] stuartm: sphery: no, and it's not as though I'd be against making it mandatory, but failing to write video because alsa is missing is a significant bug IMHO
[13:51:34] sphery: I think we just fail to write audio into the video
[13:51:58] stuartm: we shouldn't need them to write from a digital source to disk, we're not doing any audio related work there afaik
[13:52:43] stuartm: sphery: digital sources get written to the disk untouched (well we parse the headers but don't modify the stream except to exclude certain pids)
[13:53:39] stuartm: the only sources that conceivably requires alsa would be framegrabbers and possibly some hardware capture cards depending on how they/their drivers work
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[13:54:43] stuartm: I would point out that Isaac said that in 2005, when there were still quite a few frame grabbers users around, 9 years later that's no longer the case
[13:59:15] dekarl: Meh, don't we have higher priority stuff then that? "But it adds unneeded clutter to my precious root filesystem! I demand you fix this ASAP!"
[13:59:28] dekarl: just give them a refund ;)
[14:00:45] stuartm: brb
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[14:08:34] dekarl: stuartm, back? I'm thinking about the talk re "Tatort", a series with episode title in the subtitle but still tagged with the magic category "movie", thus getting programids that collide. http://pastebin.com/2bNRRzFq should fix that without breaking other cases
[14:13:13] stuartm: dekarl: going to be dropping in/out, I'll give it some thought but will let you know a bit later once I've finished attempting to firefight this hardware issue I'm having :)
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[14:26:57] danielk22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F-3E8pyjFo <-- good video on OSS community building.. some lessons in there which we learned the hard way.
[14:29:52] Merlin83b: stichnot: Oh, I didn't know you'd committed them? I'm on 0.26-fixes, are they being backported or just in the 0.27 branch? Or are they even in there yet?!
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[14:32:18] stichnot: Merlin83b: these changes should be in 0.27-fixes and Master
[14:33:07] nchauvet: Hello, which version of ffmpeg/libav is in mythtv 0.26 ? was the snapshot updated with later version ?
[14:33:32] nchauvet: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/65517/87596041/
[14:33:56] nchauvet: well, that was 0.27 actually
[14:44:49] Merlin83b: stichnot: Oh, might need to do another round of upgrades then. No chance of it getting as far back as 0.26-fixes?
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[14:54:27] dekarl: nchauvet: try http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . fixes%2F0.27
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[14:56:07] stichnot: Merlin83b: The 0.27 commit http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/1b16c65 . . . ed181/mythtv is pretty large and doesn't apply cleanly to 0.26, and I'm not really set up to test 0.26 changes thoroughly, so, sorry... :(
[14:58:32] nchauvet: what if I update to 1.2.4 ? are your patching the FFmpeg sources ?
[15:00:31] Merlin83b: stichnot: No probs, guess I'll be getting more updated then! Probably no bad thing. Thanks for looking.
[15:01:02] nchauvet: yep README.sync seems to say so
[15:01:18] ** nchauvet really hates forked version of FFmpeg **
[15:02:36] dekarl: nchauvet: we hate them, too. But upstream didn't want our fixes/extensions back in the days of yore
[15:02:56] dekarl: but there is light at the end of the tunnel
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[15:09:39] stuarta: there is?
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[15:12:28] dekarl: "-O FFMPEGTS=1" appears to be a step towards moving closer to upstream
[15:12:54] stuarta: i'm only up to june in my mythtv mail box :(
[15:13:07] dekarl: which June? :D
[15:13:15] stuarta: last year
[15:16:03] dekarl: nvm, this is newer, I thought we have this for some time already. http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?id=72533b12
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[16:00:22] Merlin83b: Hmm, just seen a boatload of SSH attempts as user mythtv to a machine on the same network I'm connecting from.
[16:03:01] Merlin83b: Could be a coincidence, I suppose.
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[22:17:23] danielk22: Anyone mind if I comment out the mingw builder (with 1604 build jobs pending) and add some logging branch builders?
[22:26:51] paul-h: Fine by me I guess it's not been working for a while then :)
[22:27:22] paul-h: danielk22: are you aware of the changes jya has made to the logging?
[22:28:09] paul-h: I think his plan is to kill of mythlogserver
[22:28:14] danielk22: A bit, AFAIK he made it possible to disable the logging binary
[22:30:09] danielk22: I'm trying to catch up on what has been going on in the last 6 months in the code.
[22:30:35] danielk22: I'm far enough behind on the commits mailing list that reading that is probably not the most efficient way to catch up.
[22:38:46] paul-h: I'd have to leave it up to jya to comment on this plans but the logging is working a lot better since he allowed us to disable mythlogserver
[22:40:43] danielk22: paul-h: yeah, I've been running without mythlogserver for the last year or so in the logging branch and mythbackend has run without crashing for 6+ months.. before that I was filling up my /var partition with core dumps was an ongoing problem.
[22:42:02] danielk22: I see some useful error report popups too
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[22:47:37] MartinT: quick theming question... when theming the mythvideo section... is it possible to have a different screen layout dependent on the content types being shown...
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[22:52:53] MartinT: specifically, I'm using the "TV and Films" view mode, and I when in the television directory, I want to display one layout, in the films another, inside a TV show another, inside a series, another...
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[23:30:10] danielk22: heh, well logging is not working in the logging branch after syncing from master, but I can watch TV so that is something :)

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